Jackie (57:59)
Yeah, and look, Jessica Wong, though, unbelievably, I've tried to hold on to what I actually think happened for as much as I could throughout this case, maybe poorly. But Jessica Wong, though, unbelievably, has a lot of supporters who think she is innocent. I would have more time for it if, say, they had, like, and this is real stretch, but, like, say, found some cyanide traces in her room or on her clothes and Myrna had died. There was no cyanide in the coffee. There was no cyanide in her blood. And you're just saying, well, she had traces of cyanide, like on her genes for whatever reason, and her friend was poisoned. It must have been her. Get her. Like, I could see more of the gray area. There's fucking cyanide in the coffee. And the coffee was sat there for an hour with only Jessica Wonzo sat there. And I get it, the bar has to be high in a criminal court. I understand that, but it is. They're just handing shit to the defence here. And yes, the shaky forensic evidence gave Hasiban the perfect springboard to launch his boldest claim yet. The whole thing had been a stitch up against Jessica from the very start. Cyanide poisoning, he argued, was exactly what Murna's family wanted everyone to believe. And they may well have had a hand in making it look that way. Namely, Hassiban suggested that Myrna's wealthy and well connected dad, Eddie Damawan, could have paid people off to ensure the story fit. Pointing to an alleged meeting that Dharmawan held with the Olivier Cafe staff after Myrna's death to help them get their stories straight. Hasselban argued that money could have changed hands to push the needle towards Jessica. He also highlighted the coffee's dodgy chain of custody, noting how it was passed between cafe employees and not Properly sealed and left open to potential tampering, either by the police or another party who could have added the cyanide later. And yes, I take that point. They handle it very poorly. So if somebody had just added it later, sure. But if you're going to go to that step of tampering it, why won't you tamper the toxicology report or the forensics reports to say, yeah, we found a shitload of cyanide in habile or whatever? It feels like a half assed way to carry out a conspiracy to leave such a gaping hole. And look, I'm not saying that Myrna's dad is an angel. He had his fair share of dodgy moments in court, like when he presented judges with an obviously photoshopped postmortem photo of Myrna where his daughter's skin had clearly been edited to have, like, the classic cherry red hue that's sometimes associated with cyanide poisoning. Like he literally doctors a photo to show the charges, which, again, just shows you how fucking ridiculous this trial was. That wasn't presented as official evidence from the state, taken by the medical examiner. Her dad just shows them a photo that he has clearly just like, turned up the red on. It's weird because it goes against the bluish tinge that is very visible in Myrna's skin in the photos taken by hospital staff. And he's obviously trying to do this to prove that she was killed by cyanide poisoning. But ironically, it would have been irrelevant anyway, because some studies have suggested that only around 11% of cyanide poisoning victims have cherry red skin. But that does make us question the integrity and rigour of the evidence handled in the trial and by Otto Hassiban's reasoning, cast doubt on whether Jessica really got a fair shot. The thing is, we can understand a grieving dad resorting to some dubious methods to ensure justice for his daughter. But if Hasselban's claims that the cyanide was planted in the coffee were true, that would imply a conspiracy from the very start to frame one of Myrna's friends, no less. But the big question would remain, why? And also, again, like I said, if you were going to have a conspiracy, because you're just saying you believe that Jessica did it and you want to pay, you know, the cafe staff off to say, Jessica asked this crazy question, she was acting weirdly, even though it's on CCTV and you were gonna tamper with the photographs to make it look like cyanide poisoning, you were gonna pay somebody to put Cyanide in the coffee sample. Why wouldn't you go the whole hog and also pay off the ME to say that cyanide was found in the body? So I don't personally believe, while Myrna's dad definitely does some weird shit, I don't believe it was a conspiracy.