CNN is re-airing their special on the rise of Christian nationalism — and I'm re-releasing this conversation with Tia Levings because it is more relevant now than when it first aired. Tia will be featured in the CNN special, and her book A Well-Trained Wife went viral on YouTube after this episode first dropped (with "wife spanking" landing in the top four search terms — yes, really).

If you prefer to watch on YouTube, here you go: https://youtu.be/aU6CcgskrUE

Tia Levings is the New York Times bestselling author of A Well-Trained Wife, a memoir of her escape from Christian patriarchy. Her work has been featured in Teen Vogue, Salon, Huffington Post, Newsweek, and the Amazon docu-series Shiny Happy People.

In this conversation, we go deep on:

What "quiverfull" ideology really is — and how it connects to the tradwife movement today
Christian domestic discipline (aka non-consensual BDSM in church clothes)
The "fundy baby voice" — what it is, who's using it, and why it matters politically
Why joy is now an act of rebellion against high-control systems
How to resist without burning out — and why rest counts as resistance
What Tia thinks is actually keeping us safer right now (it might surprise you)

Timestamps:

0:00 – Re-intro + why this episode is back
1:00 – Original intro from the Re-Invention Room
3:25 – Tia's story begins: mainstream Christianity to fundamentalism
7:31 – What "quiverfull" really means
10:16 – "Hitting me was no longer taboo. It was holy."
13:20 – The pressure to be a "good girl" & wanting to be chosen
18:36 – The skinny, weak, take-up-no-space agenda
23:50 – The sadness that crawls up your legs like ivy
29:18 – The "fundy baby voice" explained
33:31 – Karoline Leavitt, Katie Britt & women in patriarchy
35:10 – Hypersexualization and modesty culture
40:09 – Where do we go from here? Tia's take on the current moment
48:29 – Does Tia feel spiritually supported?
52:15 – How to discern intuition from programming
54:00 – Advice for people who are overwhelmed by the news
57:07 – Why Tia calls them Mikey, Dougie & Petey
58:07 – How to find Tia & her books

Tia Levings' links:

Tia's book: A Well Trained Wife: https://amzn.to/4uffTVN

Pre-order Tia's new book: I Belong To Me: https://amzn.to/46D7jWH

Tia Levings Writer: Instagram | Substack

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