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Ali Stuckey
Paula White has been appointed by President Trump to lead his new White House faith office. Who is she and why is she so controversial? We'll get into all of that, but first we will look at the super bowl, the great ads, the cringe ads and the he gets us ads. We've got so much on today's episode of Relatable. It's brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com use code ALI at checkout. That's goodranchers.com code ALI foreign hey guys. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a wonderful and restful weekend. You can tell from the sound and from the look that I am not in my studio recording remotely. Today we are going to talk about all things super bowl. And yes, we will get into Paula White. I've gotten so many messages about that and per usual, we have so much to talk about this week, so much to talk about. I am going to try my darndest to get it all in. There were so many things I wanted to talk about in today's episode that we just didn't have time when we were researching and putting our outline together. Like Wheaton College and their response to Russ Voight being appointed and being confirmed to his position in the Trump administration. What went on with Kanye west this weekend? I will do my best to get into all of that probably on Wednesday because tomorrow we are talking to Wes Hoff. If you haven't listened to his conversation with Joe Rogan, you should. And we will get into a lot of really interesting apologetics, theology history stuff tomorrow. So tune into that. Thank you to all of you who have been praying for us as we have been battling the flu in our home. I told you on Instagram, but if you didn't catch it, my encouragement to you is that if you are in the midst of flu, we had flu A, it lasts a long time. Like this flu just really hangs on. This is like a seven to ten day deal. And what I have been told both by our pediatrician and by those of you out there who have been experiencing this sickness is that you really have to look out for the post infection infections. And this is true, I think of all viruses at all times. But it seems to me like the post flu infections are really common this year. So things like pneumonia, sinus infection, ear infections, again, I think we're probably always susceptible to those things when our immune systems are suppressed. But I'm just noticing that this seems to be really common and then catching a different kind of Flu strand the next week. And so I have been taking, trying to get my kids to take. They've been taking like, their normal supplements, but chief related Bro and I have been taking in addition to our normal we Heart nutrition supplements, sea moss gel. I don't know if you guys have ever had Seamos gel. You got a kick out of me saying on Instagram that it's not the best thing I've ever tasted, but it is the worst. Like, it is the worst. It is the exact kind of texture that you would expect from CMOs, which is not good. I hear that it comes in gummy form and capsule form. I don't know if that is as fresh or if it works as well, if it's as bioavailable as the form that I got. I got it from Sprouts. And just like a warning, it is ridiculously expensive. Which don't tell Dave Ramsey this, but that is, like, why I got it. I saw it. And the fact that it was $35 for a jar, I was like, that's intriguing. It must really work. That's probably not the way to grocery shop. But I'm glad that I got it because I actually think that it's helping. I had just seen the benefits of Ashwagandha, and I'm sure there are some of you out there who have heard horror stories about Ashwagandha. I have no idea. But I've heard the benefits of it. And so it has black seed oil and different things in there too. I actually really think that it's helped me because every day I start thinking that I am going to have the onset of the flu. I started having symptoms last week. It just dissipates by the afternoon, which is crazy for the flu. Typically when one person gets it in a household, everyone gets it. And somehow she, for Lady Bro and I have, like, been on the brink of it and then we just haven't gotten it. I've also taken local elderberry. I'm sure that's helped. I've taken, like, a lot of zinc and of course vitamin C and D and there are all other kinds of things. A lot of you out there have recommended oregano oil. I don't think that I've taken that for immunity purposes. But if you guys say that it works, I believe you. And so I am praying for you and I am thinking about you. My thoughts and prayers and heart and sympathy and yes, empathy is with you. If you are going through that yourself or if your kids are going through it, it's just really, really tough when your kids are sick and when every day you wake up hoping, okay, today's the day they're going to be back to 100% and they're still feeling miserable and pitiful and it's just really hard. But thank the Lord. I've just been like, thanking the Lord for immune systems and for all of the tools that he has given us to like, fight sicknesses. And it's also a great gospel opportunity. Conversations I've had with my five year old, just that one day there will be no more sickness and one day our bodies will be whole and perfect and we will never have to get the flu, we'll never get the stomach bug, we will never have to worry about all different kinds of ailments and imperfections and struggles and suffering and pain that we have to go through. And one day we will live in perfect peace. And so even moments like this, it's a good opportunity to remind our kids of future joy and redemption and to rely on the Lord when things are hard and to pray even for things that might seem small and might seem temporary. We get to cast all of our cares the Lord, because he cares for us. And that's just a beautiful reality. So praying for all of those little difficult but redemptive moments in your life. All right, the super bowl was yesterday. Maybe you didn't watch the super bowl, and if you didn't, I don't blame you because I didn't really have a dog in this fight. The Chiefs are cool. I guess they've been in the Super Bowl a lot and that's great. Good for them. I hear that going to the super bowl as a football team is positive. So happy for them. And then you have the Eagles, which I understand they were also glad to go to the super bowl. And I think they've also won the super bowl in the past and so also good for them. But as I will get into in just a second, I decided at the end after the Eagles won that I am an Eagles fan and I was glad that they won because the coach gave glory to God. And I think that we have that clip. If we don't have that clip, we should make sure that we have it so I can play it. And because it was really sweet how he just praised Jesus as he was trying to hold it together in this monumental moment. So we'll get to that in a second. But first we'll get into some more light hearted things. Let's get into our. You know what? Let me actually, let me just go Ahead and play. Since I, since I referenced it, let me just go ahead and play. That really like beautiful moment. This is one of many moments of people glorifying God and praising Jesus before and after the Super Bowl. But this is the moment that I reference. Producer Bree said it saw 10. So let's play saw 10. Nick.
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Nick
Super bowl champions, what does the moment mean? God's blessed us very much. He gave us all the talents to be able to get here. So first and foremost, thanks to him and this is the ultimate team game. You can't be great without the greatness of others. And we great performance by everybody. Offense, defense, special teams, how we getting us, the guys, our coaching staff, these great players. We didn't really ever care what anyone thought about how we won or their opinions. All we want to do is win. That's why we listen to my prerogative a little bit when we were after some wins. But thank God. Thank you, Jesus.
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Ali Stuckey
That was, that was really sweet. When I was watching that, the interviewer said after that he was like, yeah, we know you're an emotional guy. I was like, oh, okay. I mean I was kind of like offended for him. The coach didn't seem offended at all. It's not a bad thing to show emotion and I thought that was just really beautiful that he took the opportunity to praise Jesus. Okay, now let's get into some more light hearted things. Let's. Well, I guess you could consider this light hearted, you could consider it sad, you could consider it happy. But it is indicative, I think of the so called vibe shift that has happened in this country. Trump was at the super bowl game and he was cheered. Taylor Swift, the girlfriend of Chiefs player Travis Kelsey was there and she was booed. So here is Trump being cheered. That one. Okay, it's kind of hard to tell but he is being cheered when he is on camera and everyone sees him. He's there saluting, looking very regal. Patriotic might be the better adjective. Everyone cheers so loudly and it's just like a really sweet, I think unifying, happy moment. And then Taylor Swift is also put up on the Jumbotron and she didn't get quite the reception the President Trump did. Here's thought to. Okay, I think I'm probably gonna have a wide variety of opinions on that. If you're just listening to this, she's like looking around. She's on the Jumbotron, she's looking around like, what is going on? I'm not even sure if she knows that she is being booed in that moment. She clearly feels awkward and I feel for her. Maybe I shouldn't, but I do, I do. I just thought that this was kind of like unnecessary and rude. Obviously, I really disagree with Taylor Swift politically. I don't consider myself a swifty at all. But I didn't, I didn't understand why. Is it just because people think that she is like distracted Kelsey? Like, do they, do they just think that she has turned the NFL into kind of like a spectacle, Trivialized it, made it about her somehow? Or is it because she's a lib and a lot of people aren't libs anymore? And people have a lot of growing disdain for libs and people who are anti Trump and she was very vehemently anti Trump during the campaign, just according to her post and her endorsement of Kamala Harris and her outspokenness for child murder, abortion and things like quote unquote LGBTQ rights, including the so called right of a man to go into girls spaces. Like all of those things I think are worth booing. I don't know if she should be booed like at the super bowl. She's just there supporting her boyfriend. I don't know, it just seemed like an odd and unnecessarily rude thing to me. But you can tell me, you can tell me what you think in the comments. Okay, we've got more. I want to go through some of my favorite ads and some of my least favorite ads and tell you what I think about them and what it says about the culture in general. And just a second, but let me go ahead and pause. Tell you about our first sponsor for the day, and that is America's Christian Credit Union. They offer financial solutions that empower Christians to reach their financial goals. When you bank with accu, unlike when you bank with some of these other very woke, pro lgbtq, pro secular left wing causes, banks, you actually are supporting causes with ACCU that align with your faith, like Christ centered education ministry, building better lending rates for borrowers and returns for depositors. And ACCU was started by pastors to become a financial institution for their congregants. They saw that Christians had a hard time finding a place that actually aligned with their values. And we've heard stories of these major banks debanking people that are banking with them based on their views. And so they created accu, but now it's expanded so much and it's serving all kinds of Americans, Christ centered Americans who love our country and want to work with a financial institution that actually supports them. And so when you work with America's Christian Credit union. Not only are they putting $100 in your new checking account when you use my code, Ali but they are also partnering with EveryLife to donate diapers to pro life pregnancy centers across the country. Getting started is super easy. Check it out. Americaschristiancu.com Ali America's Christian Credit Union is betterly insured by the NCUA. Okay, so this Rocket ad was the. I don't actually, I don't even know if it was successful because I don't even remember what Rocket is. I guess when I re watched this ad, I'll remember, but I love Take me Home, Country Road. It is. Has been one of my favorite songs for a very long time and it will always be nostalgic. I just loved the South. I loved going to college in the south and I just remember this song being played so much and I will never not love it so whenever I hear it. And it also reminds me of that scene in the office between Andy and Dwight. So many songs that I love remind me of scenes from the office. Anyway, I thought that this was a very sweet pro family, pro community, just positive message. Using John Denver's Take me Home Country Road. Here's thought three. Let's get you home. Almost heaven. West Virginia, Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River. Yeah, I can't wait to get says everyone deserves their shot at the American dream. No, I still don't know what Rocket is. If someone could tell me in the chat, in the. In our team chat what Rocket is, that would be great. I'm just curious, but I loved that, that it's very pro American dream. Very sweet, very pro life, pro baby, pro future. Just really beautiful and indicative of, I think, where the culture is and what the culture wants. To get back to financial technology company that offers mortgage, real estate and personal finance services. Okay, that's Rocket. Good job, Rocket. And then Google had this really sweet job interview ad that was very heartwarming. Here's that software.
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Nick
When you're ready, tell me about the job that taught you the most. Okay. Well, it was a role where I learned to take constructive criticism.
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Ali Stuckey
I think she like. Oh, no, doesn't like it.
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Nick
Okay. I got pretty used to, you know, working long hours with a small team. All right, last question. When it comes to work, what motivates you? I guess knowing that people can depend on me and knowing I can depend on them too.
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Ali Stuckey
I'm trying not to sob. That was really sweet. So again, if you're listening to this, this is a dad. He's using Gemini AI on His Google phone to like take mock questions to get ready for a job interview. He's like, he's doing job interviews because he's I guess just. I don't know if he's been like a full time dad, single dad, stay at home dad for the past however many years. And all of the. I'm like liter really about to cry that I'm explaining this because I think about this all the time. Like parenting gives you so much experience. Like life experience, job experience, management experience, time management experience. Like there's just so much. There's so much that you learn from being a parent. So he's talking about like constructive feedback and all of these things that he learned. But you see depictions of him being a dad over the years and that's what he's referring to, that he learned all of these skills while he was a dad. Now his daughter's going off to college and so he's applying for a new job. And it's just really sweet. Okay, doordash. This one's funny. I'm not gonna cry. This is Nate Brigazzi. He's my favorite comedian for so many reasons. I'll tell you why in just a second. And I just thought this was a really funny commercial. In his very trademark style. Here is 23. Nate, we need to talk about your finances.
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Nick
My finances are fine with DashPass. I saved six dollars on my grocery order, so I cloned myself Albuquerque. Zero dollar delivery fees on dog toys. I got me an opera singer that sings me compliments. She's so nice. Dash past savings equals. Oh yeah, ballroom. You need to stop spending. You're not listening. I'm saving.
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Ali Stuckey
I quit. Okay. I love Neighbor Gazi. I. So I went to a Neighbor Gazi show a couple years ago when I just heard of him. I think Timothy and I saw Chief Rel and I saw him on Netflix and we were like crying, laughing, watching his special. So we saw him live. And I don't think I have ever been to an event that is not my own event that I have run into as many relatable viewers and listeners as I did there. Like the crossover at least then now he's become like this megastar with probably just a wide array of people that watch him. But the crossover of neighbor Gozzi fans and relatable fans, it was huge and it was super fun because he is a clean com. He doesn't cuss, he doesn't talk about sex. He doesn't do anything off. Off color. He doesn't, as far as I know, is not like explicitly talking about Christianity, but he definitely doesn't make fun of Christianity. And I think he actually is a Christian, but he's not like what I would call a Christian comic, quote unquote. He doesn't really get into politics. Sometimes he just, like, makes fun of himself for not really understanding, like, assertions about climate change and things like that. But he's just. He's very dry, he's very funny, and he is completely blown up in popularity over the past couple of years. And he did this interview with Kevin Hart and this other guy from snl. I forget his name. And they're trying to get him to cuss and he is like, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that. That's kind of like my whole thing. And they just start dropping like F bombs, mf, blah, blah, blah. And he's just sitting there. And I just thought, first of all, Kevin Hart. The reason that you have to rely. The reason why anyone has to rely on crude language to tell a joke is because you're not actually funny. You're not actually clever. It's just shock value. And people laugh because that's what they're used to. Maybe they do think it's funny or they're just uncomfortable. And Nate Bergasse just kind of, like, sat there. I just thought that was really rude. That was completely inhospitable and uncalled for and unnecessary. And I just appreciate the neighbor gods. He's been on snl. He's. I think he has, like, a Las Vegas residency right now or something. Obviously he's in a Super bowl commercial. And he has still stayed true to that, that he has not compromised on what has become his brand, but started, I think, just like, as a value. And that's really cool, and I really appreciate that. And we are going to see him again in just a few months, and I'm pumped about it. All right now we have someone who is very confusing to me. Snoop Dogg is everywhere. And I did not, you know, people are talking about. I didn't vote for Elon Musk. You know, he's a part of the administration. I did not vote for Snoop Dogg to be everywhere, to be in every commercial, to be on every show, to be, like, the mascot for everything. Like, he was like the mascot for the Olympics. And I'm like, okay, this is literally the guy that a few years ago made a music video that depicted a, like, mock assassination of Donald Trump. And now here he is in a commercial standing up against hate. SOP 5.
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Nick
I hate you because we from different neighborhoods. I hate you cause you look different. I hate you. Cause I don't understand you. I hate you because people I know hate you. I hate you because I think you hate me. Cause I need someone to blame because you talk different, because you act different, because you're just different. Man, I hate that things are so bad that we have to do a commercial about it. Me too.
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Ali Stuckey
Silly. Silly. It's just silly that Snoop Dogg is the voice for that. I, I don't. I just really don't understand it. There's a lot of people who have a reputation for being like, very loving and unifying. I didn' that Snoop Dogg was one of those people. Can someone just like, clue me in as to why he has become like the symbol of unity for the United States when again, he made that video just a few years ago. And as far as I know, it's not like he's like asked forgiveness for that. Okay, we got a lot to talk about. And so I'm not even, I'm not even going to play these next ones. These are like my least favorite ones. And there were two ads, one by Nike, one by NFL. And the NFL was about. It was like depicted this girl, it was like stereotypical 80s high school. And it was a high school girl that was going up against a group of very strong and masculine macho football, like male football players. And it was flag football. And they were like, yeah, you can't beat us. And she was like, yeah, I can. And then she played flag football against these guys. She beat all of them. And they were like, we need flag football for girls to be made a varsity Sport in all 50 states. Why flag football? Hey, if girls can beat guys, as the NFL apparently thinks, then why not tackle football? What's wrong with that? I'm not against flag football for girls. I think that's fine. I think it would be great in all 50 states. I think girls would probably really excel in that. If they can play soccer, if they can play rugby. Rugby's probably a lot more physical even than flag football, then that's fine. I think girls and athletics is a good thing. But why does it have to be that in order for a sport to be legitimate for girls, a girl has to be able to beat a boy because that's what you just depicted. NFL is a fantasy that would never happen, literally never happen anywhere on earth ever would a 15 year old girl be able to beat 15 year old boys in a sport like soccer? I mean, in a sport like football, it would literally never happen. Like 15 year old girls would probably have a hard time beating like 11 year old boys probably couldn't literally in flag football. I don't think 15 year old girls could be 11 year old boys. And so just say that you want sports for girls. You don't need to have them in this like weird fantasy of being able to beat a boy in that game because again, it's impossible. And then Nike has an ad that is promoting girls sports, you know, promoting Caitlin Clark and they say you can't put yourself. You, the narrator says you can't put yourself first, so put yourself first. I don't understand that you can't put yourself first, so put yourself first. Okay, okay, good advice. But just as a reminder, Nike has been anti women for a very long time and their acceptance of trans ideology. In 2020, Nike joined 142 businesses to support overturning a Tennessee bill that would prevent male athletes from competing in Girls Sports. In 2023, Nike partnered with trans identifying male Dylan Mulvaney to his, you know, 100 days of girlhood where he pretended to basically be like a 12 year old girl as a grown 30 year old man. They partnered with him to promote their sports bras and female work attire. So spare me, spare me. If anyone is oppressing women taking opportunities away from women, it is you, Nike, through your promotion and acceptance of transgender ideology and men in girls sports. All right, we've got some good moments of Christian players praising God before, during, after the super bowl in just a second. Let me go ahead and pause and tell you about our next sponsor for the day and that is Patriot Mobile. Patriot Mobile is America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. They are proudly 100% based in the USA. So when you switch to Patriot Mobile or when you call them because you've got a, an issue that needs to be addressed by customer service, you can trust that their entire team is based in the US they make switching really easy. When you switch to Patriot Mobile, you are supporting the values that we have, like the sanctity of life, the first and second amendments. Unlike when you use one of these major carriers that unfortunately donates to causes that don't align with our values that are diametrically opposed to everything we believe in. So partner with Patriot Mobile, you'll get the same great coverage, you'll get awesome customer service and you'll support all of the principles that we hold so dearly. Go to patriot mobile.com Alli when you do, you'll get a free month of service. Just use my code. Alli patriotmobile.com Alli Code Ali There is a Christian sports media ministry called Sports Spectrum. They created this compilation of super bowl athletes bringing glory to Jesus before the game. Here's Saw eight.
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Nick
Jesus, my Lord and Savior. It's someone that I look up to every single day to decide what I want to do with my life and how I want to live my life. And so Jesus is everything to me in my faith, has always been a part of me where I've always wanted to root myself in that and keep him in the center of my life. And everything that I do, God's every decision that I make, and he has a. Has a love that's so forgiving, you know, all my shortfallings. I know that he's there. It's a weight lifted off your shoulder when you know you have that power. Know that the Lord's gone through. He's gone through every single adversity that I could ever go through, you know, and he's dominated it. I know I'm nothing without him, man. And I feel like it doesn't get any more simpler than that. Nothing matters other than the serving, serving God, because all this, it goes away.
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Ali Stuckey
I love that. And there were many others, too, but all of those were different players on each team talking about just who Jesus is, why they want to glorify God with their lives. And I love that so much. All right, let's talk about the halftime show for just a second. I don't have that much to say about this. I know people always have very strong opinions about the halftime show. I don't really. Okay, so Kendrick Lamar, he's a rapper. I. You know, people debate all the time whether any artist is talented. I do think that he is very talented. It probably doesn't come as a surprise to you that I am not, like, an OG Kendrick Lamar fan. Like, this is not what is playing in the, like, soundtrack of my life. But I have listened to some of his music, and I do think that it's unique. He is very, I think, lyrically gifted. I find his lyrics to be very clever and interesting. And if we're just gonna have, like, a battle between Kendrick Lamar and Drake when it comes to that, I find Drake's songs to be very sad and silly. And again, I probably haven't listened to a drake song since 2017. And I find Kendrick Lamar songs kind of scary, but interesting. Interesting. Like, I want to listen to the lyrics to try to figure out what he's saying. And he had this whole diss track against Drake. I Guess they have some beef. That diss track became very popular, and he's singing at the super bowl show. And, yeah, I guess some people liked it and some people did it. Some people also thought that he was making fun of America. Some people thought it was patriotic. Like, if you see this picture, his dancers are in red, white, and blue. He's in the middle, and this is supposed to be, like, the American flag. And some people are also saying the fact that he used Samuel L. Jackson dressed as Uncle Sam introducing Kendrick Lamar, like, that was an a nod to America. Other people are saying, no, this was actually saying that America has never really accepted or understood, like, rap and hip hop, which is a criticism that Kendrick Lamar has given before. And Kendrick Lamar is not known as, like, a wholesome figure. He did a couple years ago do this whole thing at one of his shows where he was dressed up like Jesus with the crown of thorns with fake blood dripping down his face and also saying, yeah, women's rights. Here's thought 9.
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Nick
God speed for women's rights. They judge you, they judge Christ God speed for women's rights. They judge you, they judge Christ they.
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Ali Stuckey
Judge me, they judge Christ or they judge you. That's what I hear. They judge you, they judge Christ Godspeed for women's rights. And this was right after the overturning of Roe v. Wade. I mean, just the utterance, blasphemy of that. I don't think that we should give Kendrick Lamar the benefit of the doubt in his super bowl show that he was actually, like, saying that America is awesome. However, there are some positive aspects of it. Like, we didn't see a bunch of, like, scantily clad women or sexually perverse dancing. There was nothing about lgbtq. And since it was up for interpretation, it wasn't, like, blatantly anti America. It's fine. It's fine. I don't really have that much else to say about that. So there we go. All right, let's talk about something much more important that people always ask me about every year that I think I've given a monologue on for the past few years. And that is more My past episodes. Past years have given a more thorough rebuttal for the he gets Us campaign. And so I would go back and listen to some of those things, because, honestly, it's. It's a little bit repetitive. I feel the same way this year as I've always felt about he gets us. And so for my past commentary on it, just go. You can type in relatable. He gets us wherever you listen or on YouTube and the monologues will come up. But He Gets Us had another ad at the super bowl this year, and I thought it posed the same issues, had the same problems as years past. And here is part of that ad. It's not 12.
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Nick
Your own personal Jesus, someone to hear your prayers, someone who's there feeling unknown and you're all alone.
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Ali Stuckey
Okay, so this is Jesus showing us what greatness really is. It's a bunch of depictions of people like being there for each other, feeling deeply for someone else, helping someone who either looks like them or doesn't look like them. You've got someone at a pride parade being hugged by a person wearing a John 3:16 hat. You've got someone like washing off some graffiti on a wall that says go back. And apparently this is supposed to be about Jesus. And the tagline is He Gets Us all of us. This was an ad created by Lerma. This is a creative advertising agency who has created the previous He Gets Us ads. And we'll get into that in just a second. I'll tell you my specific thoughts about this campaign and this ad in a moment. But just as a refresher of the background of He Gets Us, like where is this coming from? This is the only explicitly, if you could even call it that explicitly Christian ad at the Super Bowl. And so I think it's worth looking at, well, who created it and why? So He Gets us. Launched in 2022, it was the. Their first super bowl ad. Appeared at Super Bowl 57 in 2023. In its first year, he gets has reportedly caused $100 million. Their ad campaign, it was funded by the signatory and it wasn't. I think that's kind of wrong to say it was funded by the signatory because a Christian. It's just a Christian donor advised fund. And so it wasn't funded by the signatory. It was funded by donors who donated through the signatory. But the signatory is a company that promises to channel its contributors dollars into biblically responsible investments. And so that year it actually caught a lot of flack from progressives in the media because of their ties to the signatory and because the signatory donates, or so these people said. So these angry activists said donate millions of dollars to Alliance Defending Freedom. You guys know what ADF is? The left paints it as anti lgbtq, hateful, all of this stuff, even though they're just fighting for religious liberty, our First Amendment rights. And so because of that connection, a lot of people on the left were angry but this is a really stupid controversy because as I've already alluded to, a donor advised fund, they're not just, they're not actually donating their own dollars to these organizations. A donor advised fund is taking the donor funds from donors and they are donating it to the cause that the donors say that they want to donate to. You can do that through Fidelity. There are a lot of secular corporations that would allow you to donate your funds to Christian or non Christian organizations through them. This just happens to be an explicitly Christian company that works with Christians. Also. The first year of the campaign you had the Hobby Lobby founders, they were a part of it. And their, you know, according to the left, there's controversy surrounding the Green family because Hobby Lobby fought to not have to supply their employees with abortifacient birth control. Which of course He Gets Us now though is run by a non profit group called Come Near. So they took over the He Gets US campaign in 2024 for and they took over the funding, the oversight of the marketing campaign. And that is probably where a lot of the, I would say most of the direction and the content has come from. In addition to He Gets Us using the Lerma Ad Agency. So the Lerma Ad Agency is a far left, pro LGBTQ ad agency. And it's a very strange choice for any Christian campaign. Whether you agree with their content or their strategy or not. It is a very weird choice to choose a pro lgbtq, pro secularism, far left ad agency. There are Christian ad agencies, there are conservative ad agencies, there are more apolitical ad agencies, but they chose Lerma Ad Agency. They say that their focus is on inclusive marketing for diverse audiences to navigate today's complex consumer landscape. We understand the euphemisms being used there. They want to heavily promote, quote unquote, LGBTQIA visibility in marketing. When it came to He Gets Us, they said that they are using the confrontation of Jesus. They're heading confrontation. So this is their overview of the campaign. He Gets Us tells the story of Jesus through a modern lens, but it doesn't even really do that. It's not even telling the story of Jesus to demonstrate the way he fought for radical love and inclusion. So the company that made this campaign, that's what they're saying. This is who Jesus is. Which of course is not the biblical definition of Jesus. Yes, radical love, not radical inclusion. In that he said the way to heaven is very narrow. The way to death and to hell is very wide. And John 14:6, Only those who come through me will make it to the Father, I am the way, the truth, the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. And so it depends on what you mean by inclusion. Yes, he loved the world, as John 3:16 said, but he also told everyone that he came into contact with to go and sin no more, to repent of their sin, to take up their cross and follow Christ. The campaign has garnered 4.8 million website users, 1.4 billion video views, and 196 million digital media. Engagement numbers are growing daily. So a little bit more about Lerma. If you look at their Instagram page, for example, they've got a post that says brands with Pride. A brief history of LGBTQIA plus visibility in advertising. And one of their posts mentioned this 2015 ad by Gillette that promoted a so called transgender teenager shaving for the first time. That's really hard to believe that that was 2015, because I remember that and I'm pretty sure that was just a couple years ago. But their page does say that that was 2015. And so that's what Lerma believes. Who is behind He Gets Us also, if you look at he gets Us their own website, when they're asked about things like the FAQ section, asked about their stance on the LGBTQ community, they say, Jesus loves gay people. He loves trans people. I already have like a problem with that language, especially trans people, because no one is truly transgender. You can't actually transition from one gender or one sex to the other. It's not possible. And so already they're adopting just deceitful language that could actually affirm and validate someone's sin and the lies that they believe. They say no matter who you are, you are invited to explore the story of Jesus and consider what it means for your life. Well, that's not the gospel. It's not even close to the gospel. It's not even introducing someone to the gospel. It's not even talking. I'm not even saying it has to be fire and brimstone, but it's not even offering a little bit of their need for a savior, which I think is pretty important to articulate, because there's not good news unless you understand the bad news. And the bad news is that we are sinners in need of a savior, that we are dead in sin apart from Christ. And again, I'm not saying that you have to say that in some, like, mean, violent way, but it should be clear or at least, at the very least, low bar here, like implied. Who does he gets Us believe Jesus is, they say that they include people in this project who believe lots of different things about Jesus and they say he gets us as a project under come near, a non profit startup who believed that Jesus was human and divine, rose from the dead and more. And so again just very vague and they talk about on their website that Jesus defined true greatness in a very different way. He showed that the greatest thing that we could be is in humble service to others, which is not completely true. Again, the world already believes that Jesus was just a moral teacher. The world already believes that he was some like hippie dippy loving guy who said true things and told us to live gentler and more service minded lives. People already believe that and these ads just seem to affirm this idea of Jesus being a moralistic hippie teacher who has nothing to offer you beyond just some better rules for life. Natasha Crane has talked about written about He Gets Us very many times. She's got a lot of good thoughts in her rebuttal to He Gets us. I can't read the entire thing she posted on act. I'll read you some of it. I thought she pointed out some really good points here because I get a lot of pushback saying okay, but it's not actually harmful. It might not be perfect, but we shouldn't nitpick it. We should just be glad that Christians are even given any kind of platform. And so I just want to read you part of what she says. So she says these ads are actually incredibly harmful to the cause of evangelism because the campaign reinforces what culture wants to believe about Jesus while leaving out what culture doesn't want to believe. Culture's wrong Ideas about Jesus become more deeply seated due to a campaign like this. It simply makes it harder for biblically faithful Christians to share about the real Jesus, a Jesus people often don't want to hear about. And I think that's a really good point. She also says the ad centers around a question that is problematic in and of itself, which means like what does it mean to be great? She says that they say that loving others is what he gets us says means to be great. But the truth is is that loving others according to Scripture is second to loving God and in order for it to be great, it must be an outflow of our love for God, which He gets us really just dismisses or ignores altogether. She also points out that the immigration and LGBTQ references slightly promote a progressive agenda, which is true. You never really see the reverse. Like they have this historically theologically inaccurate ad saying that like Jesus was A refugee or Jesus was an immigrant and he wasn't. But you never see it like the other way. You never see sly implications of conservatives or Christians being the ones who are. Being the ones who are victimized. And she also mentions Natasha at the end of her post that she believes that the ambiguity in all of this is intended. And I completely agree with that. And that kind of leads to my big problems with these campaigns. One, it misses the point of Jesus. All of these ads miss the point of Jesus. Like I watch them every year truly wanting to be on board with them, truly feeling like, okay, maybe they'll get it right this year, maybe they will get close to it. I'm not looking for someone to like play in AD that's 60 second sermon from Jonathan Edwards. Like, I'm not, I'm not looking for that. I'm not looking for something that is perfect. I'm not looking for someone necessarily to go up there and articulate the Roman road. I don't think that would. Or the Romans road. I don't think that would be bad. But I'm looking for something that would lead people to the cross. I'm looking for an accurate depiction of Jesus. I am looking for at least the implication that, hey, all of this brokenness and this messed up stuff that you see inside of yourself out in the world, there is redemption from that, there is salvation from that. You are not enough. You are insufficient. You're always trying to measure up. You're always trying to find happiness. I mean, wasn't that Tom Brady, what he said famously a few years ago? He's got all this stuff in the world. He never feels like it's quite enough, like all of that that you feel that is not enough. There's a reason for that. It's because you are made in God's image. You were made to need a savior. Here's Jesus and do a website, here's jesus.com. and if you just wanted to do that, if you wanted to leave a cliffhanger, I would say, okay, that is better. But the ambiguity, the vagueness and I think the outright misrepresentation of who Jesus is is actually very damaging and could possibly push people further away from Jesus and again, just reaffirm what the world already believes about Jesus, that he, that he's just like a good guy, that cheer leads us and that he was an activist like us, that he was a renegade, that he was an outcast, that he was a sympathizer, that he was a refugee. It is true that he was some of these things, not all of these things, but he was some of these things. But he is never in any of these ads presented as what he also is. What he very importantly is, which is king, Savior, Lord, and God. And I would think that that would be important if you want to reach people with the gospel, not just tell them, like, how to be happier or to lead a better life, because that's not why Jesus came. But if you wanted to save their souls, if you wanted to soften their hearts for the gospel, you would think that they would at the very least try to depict Jesus accurately. And then the second big thing that I have a problem with is that they choose confusion over clarity. I think a lot of people, Christian or not, they're watching it and they're like, what's the point of this ad? Again, I'm looking for the point. I want to love it. I do. I don't want to be a hater, but. But there's so much vagueness and so much ambiguity that it's not helpful. So, like, what's the point of the ad? Is the point that we should love others that look differently than us? Okay, then make it about that. Just say that. But if the ad is that Christianity is true, that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, that we are sinners in need of a Savior, then no one got that. No one got anywhere close to that. If it is just that God loves you and cares for you, which is what a lot of people have argued to me, that that's what it's about. Make it about that. Say that. Say God loves you and cares for you, not he gets you. It is true that he made us and that he is a high priest that sympathizes with our weaknesses, but that is not the primary focus of who Jesus is. That's not what we see in the Gospels. That's not what we see in his ministry. He is not primarily concerned at all, if at all, with us understanding that he gets us. He is primarily concerned with us understanding who he is, who God the Father is, and what we need to do in order to be saved. And we don't get anywhere close to that in the he gets us ads. My thought is that if you have 30 to 60 seconds of airtime and millions of dollars share the Gospel, the word of God does not return void. You would never fail by just saying the word of God. And maybe you say, oh, we can't put Bible verses in there. It can't be explicit. We have to just, like, hint at it. Then hint at it. I didn't see any hinting of the Gospel in any of these ads. What if it was a 60 second depiction of the prodigal son or a shepherd seeking the lost sheep? Or even if you modernized this, but it was like a modern depiction of a parable that Jesus told. Like, I would be happier with that because again, it would seem to me like we are going in the right direction. But the mentality behind this is a mentality that a lot of Christians suffer from and that is that Jesus and Christians need help with. Primarily that. The reason that Christians aren't liked, the reason that Jesus is misunderstood, is because of bad legalistic pharisaical Christians who care too much about sin and are just too mean. But the truth is Christianity doesn't have a PR problem. The world has always hated Jesus and because of that, the world has always hated Christians. Matthew 10:22 says, and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. John 3:16 says that God so loved the world. And that was actually, you saw that on a hat in the ad. But then after that, a few verses later, John 3:19 says this. The light has come into the world and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works are evil. So yes, we should be the aroma of Christ. We should lead people to the cross. We should be as persuasive as we possibly can through our lives, through our words, absolutely. But just reaffirming and validating what non believers already think about this powerless Jesus, I don't think is leaving people there. Now my hope and my prayer is that someone would be led to Christ through this. Through imperfect means. We have been entrusted with the gospel, which means we are always going to be imperfect vessels of God's message of salvation. And I have heard stories, some of you have told me, like you're a non Christian friend, you're a lukewarm friend. Their interest was piqued by these ads. They went onto the website and they read about them or you know, they read about he gets us, or they chatted with someone and they heard the real gospel, Gospel. And I praise God for that and I pray for that and I hope that that is successful. But if that is successful, if people hear the gospel and become saved through this, it will be not because of the failings of he gets us, the theological shortcomings of he gets us, but despite them, and because God is good and he's gonna save who he wants to save, even through imperfect means. And so I pray that, and coincidentally that is also my prayer for this new, like White House faith office that Donald Trump has established and is being spearheaded by heretical teacher Paula White. So I'll get into some of that in just a second. We're kind of closing in on time, but I'll try to be as thorough as I can on my thoughts on her. But let me pause and tell you about our third sponsor for the day. And that is my Patriot Supply. They're a company that sells emergency preparedness and survival gear. They've got all different kinds of products. But today I want to tell you about their mega three month emergency food kit. This is not your typical survivor survival food. Each kit provides more than 252,500 calories daily for 90 days. They've got delicious meals and extras including chicken, beef, fruits and veggies. You want to get one 3 month emergency food kit for every member of your family. It's just better to be safe than sorry. 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Nick
Creating the White House Faith office led by Pastor Paula White, who is so amazing.
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Ali Stuckey
Okay, so they've been friends for a long time. This doesn't really surprise me. I will tell their story and like how they first met and all of that, but she has been in his life for a very long time and she has been his faith advisor for a long time. And I posted in 2019. I didn't know that I posted this, but I said Paula White is a horrifyingly false teacher who peddles the damning prosperity gospel. Mr. President, please hit me up if you'd like some better suggestions. And so I said it then. And the only reason I remembered this is because I started getting notifications for people like liking this. But this is still, this is still true. Now, I don't expect for Trump to think the same things that we do about Paula White. I do think Paula White is a conservative. I think she's been a big supporter of President Trump. I'm sure she has said things that are true. And I am sure that he feels like a lot of. Just a lot of loyalty to her because they've known each other for so long and she's been such a big part of his administrations. But we do need to just be very clear on who she is. Again, this can be one of those things where we are praying for her, we're praying for President Trump, we pray for the White House faith office and whatever they're going to accomplish. I'm not completely sure on what the agenda is, but we can pray that God would use imperfect means and imperfect people to accomplish his will, because we already see that he's doing that through President Trump. And so that's my hope and prayer in the White House faith office. I pray that there would be solid Christians in it, and I pray that good, righteous things would be accomplished on behalf of the country, on behalf of God's people. Yes, and amen. So, again, not a hater. I think we just need to be really clear, according to the standards of God's word, who Paula White is, who her background is and what kind of leadership we can probably expect from her. So who is Paula White, Cane? And how did she get connected with Trump? She is a televangelist. She is what's known as a prosperity gospel. And I will explain more of what that means, and I'll give you some examples of that. But health and wealth in general, that means this is like tdj, because this is Joel Osteen, people who make you believe that if you do something for God, then he will do something for you in return. And if you keep these precepts, then he will reward you with financial compensation, material wealth and health. And there's typically some kind of tie of the charismatic movement into this, the belief that basically you are entitled to, as a Christian, access to perfect health and to financial success. She says that she received a vision when she was around 18 that she was going to preach the gospel to the world. She has been married three times. From what we understand from reporting at the time, she had an affair with her first husband, with a pastor at the church that they were attending. She ended up getting married to him, and then she divorced him in 2007. We don't really know all the reasons for that. And she married Jonathan Cain. He was a member of the band Journey, writer of their iconic song Don't Stop Believin, which is pretty cool, whatever else you think about him. She got into evangelism and televangelism in 2000. So she had already kind of like, started her ministry as a co pastor, I believe, with her second husband. But then in 2000, she was invited by Prosperity Preacher TD Jakes to preach at one of the conferences. And however you went viral Back in 2000, that's kind of what happened with her talking then. She's very articulate, she is very charismatic and just like the personality sense. And she's a very good, powerful speaker. So I understand her popularity from that perspective. White has described TD Jakes as her spiritual father. She reportedly sent him a black convertible Bentley for his 50th birthday in 2007. Okay. She was also like, we won't get into all of this, but she made a lot of money as, like a co pastor with her second husband. She made a lot of money through her televangelism, through the TV shows that she had. She had a TV show with BET, okay, in 2001. Isn't that interesting with BET, where she made a lot of money from that? So I guess that's how she got the money to reportedly send TD Jakes eventually for his 50th birthday. So just a little bit about TD Jakes, because this tells us who Paula White is. And T.D. jakes, again, is apparently her spiritual father. He is a popular megachurch pastor in Dallas, Texas. I think that you've probably heard his name floating around with some rappers. I'll leave it there because we don't know how much is actually true, but there's a lot about the kind of life that he has lived out there. But I'll kind of focus on his teaching. So he has said, for example, prosperity is a mindset. Whatever you say to yourself is what will manifest. Okay, that's New Age nonsense. That's not Christianity. God already has a plan and a purpose for your life, but it is up to you to believe in his plans. He also has said, if you obey God, you will never be broke another day in your life. Which of course is not necessarily true. I mean, if you just look at the lives of the apostles, if you think about all of the Christians that exist around the world, in Yemen, in China, in North Korea, they don't have money. Are they just not believing in God for their financial wealth? Is that why they haven't gotten a promotion at the slave factory where they're working in those countries? Like, that is not a biblical principle. In fact, we are promised by Jesus that in this world you will have trouble. But take heart, for I have overcome the world. Not take heart, but if you have enough faith, I will give you lots of money. So it's not only a very like America centric gospel that someone like T.D. jakes is preaching. It's just not true. It is a false gospel. It is for itching ears. It is not for people who want to take up their cross and follow Christ. Money is not bad. Wealth may very well come into your life and there are principles that you can follow that I do think lend themselves to success and financial responsibility and prosperity. Absolutely. I think the proverbs really give us kind of like a roadmap to that in some ways. But they are principles. They're not promises. We are not promised health and wealth in this life because we live in this broken world and we can look forward to perfect peace and perfection in all ways and future glory. Not here in this life. So in the early 2000s when she was preaching on TV, Trump saw her preaching on television, called her out of the blue, says you have the it factor. And they've remained close. Over the years she has served as a personal spiritual advisor to Trump even, you know, back in 2011 when he was contemplating, contemplating running as president, like she was a part of that, praying for him, advising, advising him. She has had some financial investigation, some financial sketchiness over the years, according to the Gospel coalition. However, in 2016, despite the fact that she used her various ministries and her church to reportedly rake in millions of dollars, and despite some of the sermons that she has given about the guarantee of financial prosperity, she claims that she is not a prosperity preacher. Christianity, the Christian Post said, you've been described as a gospel preacher. What are your thoughts? And she says all the right things. She says, I believe in Jesus. I believe in the inerrant word of God. I've been accused of believing the prosperity gospel. I don't preach it. She said, I am always talking about overcoming your struggles and the lessons God teaches us in valley he allows us to enter. However, if you look just on her website, just like right now, you can see key doctrines of the heretical prosperity gospel. And it's this idea that Christians give in order to gain material payback or compensation from God. So for example, on her website, 2025 is a year of fruitfulness, blessing and abundance for you. It all begins with God's first fruits. Are you ready to go to the next level in your finances? Are you ready to be able to do the next level ministry? Do you have next level dreams that require financial favor and acceleration? When we honor God with our first fruits, we will unlock the things for the remainder of the year. And in faith 2025 will be a year of fruitfulness, blessing and abundance for you. I declare fruitfulness, abundance and favor over you right now. And here, by the way, here are your first fruits. Donate here Link Donate to me, give me your money and that's your first fruit. And then God will unlock blessings for you. She posted this on Acts January 2024 when we honor God with our first fruits, he will unlock everything for the remainder of the year. Your 2024 will be a year of God's power and authority. The truth is that God doesn't owe us. He doesn't promise financial compensation for our generosity. In fact, not it's not really generosity at all when we do it to receive something in return. 2 Corinthians 9:7 says, don't give under compulsion, but be a cheerful giver. And when you go back a couple verses, you do see this idea of sowing and reaping, sowing in generosity and reaping. But he's not talking about paying a millionaire your hard earned money. He is talking about generosity to the church, taking care of persecuted Christians, taking care of ministers to the Gospel. Okay, let's go through some of some examples of the false teaching. There is one from 2023 where she tells the Jerusalem Post that we should not be evangelizing to Jews. She says, I do not want to convert Jews or send them to live in Israel for the Rapture. The plan for salvation for the Jews is God's. And so actually this is not just her There are many people probably considered dispensationalists who believe that you should not evangelize to Jewish people. But again, that is not biblical. For example, when we read Romans 9:2:5, Paul says he has great sorrow and unceasing anguish in her heart. In his heart sorry for he wishes that he could cut himself off from Christ for the sake of his brothers. He means the Jewish people. They are Israelites and to them belong all of these things. The adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law. But they don't have Christ. And so without that, we do not have salvation. Whether you are a Jew or a Gentile, the only way, the only truth, the only life is through Jesus Christ. Jesus himself makes that very clear. In John 14:6 she also repeats this idea of seed money, this idea that you pay some money and then you'll get all of this stuff back. Here's thought 16 right now I want.
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C
You, and there's someone that God is speaking to, to click on that donation button by minimizing the screen and when you do to sew $1,144, it's not often I ask very specifically, but God has instructed me and I want you to hear. This isn't for everyone, but this is for someone. When you sow that $1,144 based on John chapter 11, verse 44, I believe for resurrection life, say Pastor Paul, I just don't have that then so $144. I don't have that. So $44. But stand on John chapter 11, verse 44.
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Ali Stuckey
I mean, that's just, I mean, I'm sorry, it's just evil. It's just evil to solicit donations and to say that God is going to do something if someone continues to pay her money. I truly believe that that is wicked, that there will be punishment for that. All right, last bit is her connection to the New Apostolic. Let's see, it's nar, New Apostolic Reformation and a couple other things. So we'll get into that quickly. Let me pause tell you about our last sponsor for the day and that is Jace Medical as an emergency supply of medication to have on hand in the event of an emergency or when professional medical help is not readily available. We hear a lot of talk about the supply chain. It's unpredictable. It can be very fragile at times. When your package is delayed for weeks is annoying. But what about when your essential medications are delayed? That is an emergency. So you need an emergency medical kit from Jace Case. They also have a travel case Jace Go that you could actually win when you purchase a Jace Case that is that's a medical supply kit that is like your antibiotics. You could add Tamiflu, you could add ivermectin, you could add an EpiPen to that. But there are also, there's also the Jace Daily kit which is a year long supply of the prescriptions that you rely on. Go to Jace.com to enter their giveaway or purchase your own case. Go to jace.com use code ALI at checkout. That's jace.com code ALI. Okay, so Paula stepped down as the pastor for church and now she is the apostolic overseer of her church. So she oversees the pastors there. And she apparently is kind of a part of this new apostolic reformation, which is this movement that kind of emphasizes experience over scripture, mysticism over doctrine, modern day apostles over the plain text of the Bible. That's kind of what I'm gathering. She is promoting and pushing, which is why I would probably put her in this NAR camp according to the New apostolic thinking. Mankind lost its dominion over the earth as part of the fall of Adam. And so it's our job to try to get it back through all of these different means. Declaring, manifesting all of that, and like, financial success plays a role in that. Following the 2020 election and Biden's apparent victory over Trump, Paula White preached a sermon in which she called for victory and for angelic reinforcement from Africa and South America to intervene in the spiritual battle for the election. And also she claims that this is a sermon from Paula White that she preached in 2020. She claims that her spirit ascended to heaven where God gave her a distinct mantle. So here's saw 18.
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C
My spirit went up and I literally went to the throne room of God. And as God began, he put a mantle on me. It was a very distinct mantle. I had no idea that apostle had prophesied. I think you said that there was a mantle that was coming upon me, that there was a new mantle coming upon me. And there was a mantle. And I saw it very distinctly. The color was like a goldish, but it did. It was a yellowish goldish. A little bit different than your scarf, a little bit brighter than your scarf there. And then I saw the earth for a moment and he brought me back and he put me in certain places, one being the White House, one being certain continents.
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Ali Stuckey
I don't know that. That description of the goldish, the yellowish goldish, the goldish, the goldish yellow like your scarf. I don't know. That just really got me. It's really funny. Okay. She also distorts the communion. This is really sad. Psalm 19.
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C
During that time, the Holy Spirit gave me an answer. He said, take communion when you take the Eucharist. Thank you, Lord. It's as if Jesus Christ has just been crucified, buried, and rose again.
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Nick
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Ali Stuckey
Oh, my gosh. Okay. So a lot of people distort Jesus turning over the tables in the temple. And they say, you know, that's a reason to get mad about anything or to show outrage about anything. But this is really what he was talking about. He said that you have made my house a den of robbers. And this is very similar to that. She is using the Eucharist to make money. To make money. She has a lot of. She has a lot of different moments like this. She says when we're at the right place at the right time. God gives us the ability to see into our future. She said this in February of this year. I don't have time to play all of these clips because we've already gone over so long. She also has some like strange sexual moments from stage with her husband. There is one sermon that she gave a few years ago with her now husband where she is anointing his feet and she's telling the story of the woman of the night anointing Jesus's feet with oil, which is a very beautiful story about faith. And she makes it really weird and sexual and she's like very weirdly, strangely, sensually kissing her husband's feet as she is trying to tell that story. And then there's also this. And this is not missing context. I've listened to the whole context. This is 2015. Paula White and her now husband. Her husband is suggesting that on stage at church, two Christians that men and women should watch porn together. Here's sat 22 ladies.
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Nick
If you don't know what he likes, you know, figure it out. Get a book, go get some porn, do something. He likes to watch porn.
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Ali Stuckey
Watch porn with him later. She kind of goes on to correct him and say, oh, we're not advocating for that. That's not something we do. Don't get addicted to it. But like, you know, educate yourself. So as far as I know, she hasn't repented of that. Maybe that's not something she would say anymore. And so there's a lot more. I'm much, I mean, yes, I'm concerned about like the personal choices that she has made in her life, seemingly unrepentantly when we're talking about adultery and divorce, but also just her teaching. And I, my heart really breaks, my heart really breaks for people who have been duped by the prosperity gospel, who has, who have given their hard earned dollars to people who are just trying to line their pockets and who are preying upon people's vulnerability, whether it's their sickness, whether it's their poverty or whether it is their like gullibility to get rich. And I mean truly there is punishment for that. There is eternal punishment for that. And we actually read in the book of James that teachers are actually judged more harshly than everyone else. And so I want Paula White to repent and become a Christian. That's what I want. Because if she still believes this, then she doesn't believe in the real Jesus. She doesn't believe in the gospel of Christ. I want that for her. And again I want this White House Office of Faith to be successful. I want it to champion the true gospel. I want it to carry the cause of true Christianity. I think that's great. And I know it's probably all different kinds of faith, and I'm not sure what those initiatives might look like. And I know that God can use imperfect people to bring them to himself, and I pray for that. But this is trembling. And I can celebrate Trump's many, many, many victories that he has accomplished just over the past couple weeks. I can praise God for that and still be really clear that this person in leadership is not a good thing. All right, that's all we've got time for today. We will be back here tomorrow.