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Ep 1149 | Alex Clark on Finding the One & Why She’s Thankful for Botox
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A
She went from chicken nugget princess to queen of the Maha movement. Alex Clark is here today to talk about her personal health journey as well as her professional evolution over the past year. And she also has some romantic details to reveal about her new very serious relationship. This was such a fun and full conversation that everyone is going to love so much. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good ranchers. Go to good ranchers.com use code ally at checkout. That's good ranchers.com code ally. Alex, thanks so much for taking the time to join us in person.
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B
Yeah, I'm happy to be back. I think third time's a charm.
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A
Yes. I think first time is in this set, though.
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B
Yeah, first time in this set. And I told my team, I said, it used to be purple, now your colors are green and it looks gorgeous. But you are nervous about the black because now you did the color thing and now you've been ruined.
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A
I've been ruined. I was just talking to my husband about this this morning at the least opportune time. I started, like, ripping clothes off of my hangers this morning. I'm like, trying to get the kids dressed and I'm like, I can't stand looking at this light gray and black anymore because it's not in my color season. Did you feel like that after you got your colors done?
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B
Oh, I have not broken the rule once. I actually stopped wearing my aura ring because it was gold.
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A
And then, oh, you're a silver girl.
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B
And now I'm a silver girl. So my boyfriend, for one of my birthday gifts, he got me the silver aura ring so I could start wearing one again. That is so sweet. I have followed the rules to a T. I haven't. I have not ventured off once.
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A
Okay. You know, I wish I could say that, but the hardest one for me is black.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because you have black. Because you're winter.
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B
Yes. So black and white, true white are both in my color palette. And I, I mean, I've told everybody, guys, girls, kids, get your colors done. It's a one time thing because you're not going to change. Find out what it. You will feel so confident. Your makeup, your accessories, your shoes, your bags, everything to be tailored to exactly what looks the best on you. It's just a game changer. And it's especially a game changer for people in media like us, I think.
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A
Yeah. You can't stop seeing it and you spend less money on clothes. I think I'm less likely to like, oh, pop into anthropology or pop in Somewhere and get something just because it looks cute, because if it's not in my season, I'm not going to get it. So it actually saves you money.
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B
It actually does tell your husband's that.
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A
Yeah. So anyway, I might be changing the background green match my color season. Okay. There are so many things I want to talk to you about. I want to talk to you first about just like the rebranding from poplitics to culture apothecary. But really go back to the health journey that started that shift or initiated that shift because you were the chicken Nugget Queen, the queen of chicken nuggets. And now you are like, stop eating Chick Fil A. No seed oils. So take us back to Chicken Nugget Queen and how this first changed.
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B
Yeah, so, I mean, my life, I grew up primarily eating only ultra processed food. I remember going through the line in high school for lunch and just getting like a red fruit punch and six or seven rice Krispie treats. And that was my lunch. I lived off snacks. That's all I ate. Chick fil A, McDonald's, Wendy's. I loved it all. And I never thought anything about it. I thought organic was a gimmick. I didn't even know what a GMO was. My family, I mean, my mom made home cooked meals every night, but we didn't know anything about seed oils or corn syrup or. Or thought it was a big deal. And when the pandemic happened and we were all mandated to, you know, get a certain medical product, I was so deeply disturbed by that because I just thought in my spirit that's so evil and wrong to tell people, like, if you do not put something inside of your body, you're not allowed to participate basically in the public sphere or you can't keep your job. You know, they told us that, well, you had a choice. No, you didn't. Because if you're wielding against somebody, you have to take this or you're going to lose your job. Which I know. I know a girl at my old radio station, she had to quit because they told her as a breastfeeding mother, if you don't get this, you're going to lose your job. And she said, well, I'm breastfeeding. I'm not getting this.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So then she quit. That's not really giving people a choice. And so I thought that was super evil. And I had never really even thought of like the phrase big pharma before until that I started kind of seeing people say that. And I thought, well, that's interesting. I Wonder what that that is. And right at that time, Hulu came out with that Emmy award winning show called Dopesick. Did you ever end up watching that?
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A
I don't actually. I might have. Okay to, bro. But during that time, we watched a lot of TV during the COVID era, so we might have.
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B
It is so excellent. So if you, like, watch the first episode to see if you've watched it or not, you need to go back. It is phenomenal. Won tons of awards, but I was watching that. And if you don't know, Dopesick is about the Purdue pharmacy scandal and Sackler family, who created OxyContin and, you know, mass produced this knowing that it was an addictive opioid, even though they told people it wasn't. And basically the reason we have the opioid crisis now is because of the Sackler family and greed of this pharmaceutical company. I had never heard that story. And that totally speaks to just personal privilege. My family growing up, I just hadn't been touched by the opioid crisis. So I really didn't know anything about it until watching that show. And I was so floored that the FDA could approve a drug knowing that it was addictive, knowing that this was killing people, you know, causing spikes in crime and mass destruction all over our rural communities, especially in the United States. That led me to looking into, well, what other drugs has the FDA approved or have we kind of been marketed to that is totally safe, no side effects, and really been duped by. And that led me to hormonal birth control. I had been on birth control for about 10 years. I had never thought anything about it. It was never even posed to me as a question of should you really be taking this or not? It was just automatic. Every single, you know, checkup visit. It was like, oh, we're going to renew your prescription for this.
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A
And why was it initially, why did your doctor say you needed it?
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B
Couldn't tell you. Couldn't tell you. I was 14 or 15 years old. They probably said, you know, do your cramps hurt when your period starting? Yeah. Okay, we're going to put this on you. And this is what's so annoying to me about, like a lot of discourse on X in super legalistic conservative Christian circles. Is this conversation of like, well, if A is on birth control or was ever on birth control, then, you know, she's. She's a whore, sleeping around or whatever. It's like for most of us, our generation, we were just put on it. I mean, really, we had no informed consent whatsoever. About what was going on.
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A
We're not sexually active. It was literally like I was 17, I had mono and I think I missed my period one month because I was feeling sick. And she was like, oh, you missed your period? Let's get you on birth control to get you regular. And then I was on it for like the next five years of my life. And it wasn't to actually prevent pregnancy. It was literally just because one doctor told me that I should when I was 17. You're right. Most women, that's their story.
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B
Yeah. And it's so, so it's so frustrating. And I didn't know, you know, I didn't know that when you're prescribed hormonal birth control for 10 years, if you take it 10 years or more, that you have a 230% increase likelihood of developing an autoimmune disease, which now I have. I didn't know that it completely alters who you are attracted to in a man, in a mate. That when you're birth control, you are more attracted to a feminine looking man than masculine.
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A
Yes. Now, like the guy in Severance, what's his name? Who is also Leslie Knop's husband.
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B
Yes, yes.
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A
What's his name?
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B
Adam Scott.
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A
Adam Scott. That's the, I mean, that's what you're typically attracted to if you're on hormonal birth control. I saw someone say, is anyone attracted to Adam Scott who is not on an ssri? I was like, I don't know.
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B
Well, and you know who else? And guess who? I had a crush. Who was my celebrity crush in high school? Michael Cera from Juno. I mean, that guy, he, him and Adam Scott are in that same category of like, very, like, like soft, like kind of beta boy type of guys. So, yeah, I didn't know any of that. Like, this was never disclosed to me in my initial checkup. And so that piqued my interest and I just started like posting on my stories to my followers. And this was like summer of 2021, I think, and I started posting. I was like, did you guys know this about birth control? Did you know this? And I could see my story shares. Like it was just like thousands of people sharing my story out of nowhere when I would post about hormonal birth control. And I thought, oh, wow, I've hit a nerve here. My audience, just like me, they didn't know this information. I mean, nobody in the conservative movement, the only people talking about birth control, I think around that time was EV Magazine was, was kind of talking about, we both Started talking about it around the same time, like, nobody was really talking about this, like, in the pro life circles or anything, because very touchy. Like, ooh, we don't want to rock that boat. Same with ivf. You were the first person to start talking about, like, ethics with IVF and big fertility. Like, nobody wanted to touch that because it was like, if we poke that bear, then we're going to lose all the people that are like mushy middle pro lifers. And so it was like not popular to talk about birth control or IVF or whatever at that time. And so I started talking about it and I could see, like, my numbers just spike. And that led me to then investigating and going down the rabbit hole of big fan food, understanding that like only a handful of food companies control everything and the consequences of that, you know, how our food is engineered to be as addictive as possible, how it's, it's not. It doesn't really matter how much you're moving. If you're eating ultra processed food at night after you run, you know, a lap around your neighborhood, you're not going to lose the weight that so much of this system is rigged. It's like almost impossible to find true, unbiased nutrition information that even the food pyramid I grew up with was completely bought and paid for. It was a total scam. I mean, every aspect for a millennial woman of medicine, of nutrition, of pharma, was a lie. It was completely rigged and we were set up for failure. GMOs were introduced to our generation. The vaccine schedule exploded on our generation. We were all put on birth control. I mean, millennial women have by far been. We were millennial women were experimenting on without our consent. And when I testified at the United States Senate in September of 2024 with RFK Jr. That was what I did my speech on, was that none of us knew what we were agreeing to. And now we're all trying to start families, we're trying to have kids, and if we even can get pregnant, then trying to raise kids in this in completely rigged system, it's nearly impossible. And so hopefully this is what's now going to be changing with RFK Jr. In charge of HHS.
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A
Yeah, I remember. I think it was probably almost exactly five years ago, maybe a little. Maybe like spring of 2020, because I remember I was recording at home and it was Covid and I did an episode about birth control, IVF and surrogacy. Because it was around this time, I think a lot of people were on the same journey being like, okay, is this okay? What about all these things the doctors have been telling us for so many years? And I remember doing that episode and being scared like, oh, I'm talking about birth control, IVF and surrogacy. This is, like you said, a subject that a lot of pro lifers don't want to wade into. And I was nervous. But it's amazing how much that has shifted over the past few years. Now everyone's talking about it now. I would say surrogacy and IVF are still very touchy issues.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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But certainly. And it, you know, it's not just me. I was inspired by people like Jennifer Law and Katie Faust who had been talking about it for a long time. And it has shifted. A lot of people are realizing the issues with all of these problems, especially when it comes to reproductive technology.
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B
Yeah. And it's hard. It's hard when, you know, the president supports it. And obviously we support the President, but we don't support everything. And so it's an interesting kind of landmine to walk through.
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Yeah.
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B
On that conversation. But I agree with you. I think that in the next decade, I think that's going to become less and less popular with Christian conservatives because at a certain point, just like with all these other things that we turned a blind eye to, there comes a certain point where you just cannot deny the evidence.
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Yeah.
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B
And the biblical reality.
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It's untenable.
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Is this right or wrong?
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A
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B
So one thing about me that drives my best friend Lauren nuts is that I am black and white. There's never nuance. I am all in or I am all out. When I become obsessed with something, I'm like, oh, I'm changing everything. Like, there is no baby steps with me. I have to do it all at once or I'm not committed. And so when it came to the food, that was the first thing I started on. I just woke up one day and I said, I'm never eating fast food again. I'm. I'm never like, all my ultra processed stacks, I'm throwing them out. I'm going to the grocery store, I'm redoing my entire cabinet. I mean, it was all like one weekend and I stuck to it.
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A
I feel like you posted about this. I might even remember it. Did you post about it?
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B
You don't even know. I don't even know anymore. But, yeah, I was just all in. Now I. This overwhelms 99% of people. So my advice for the average person who is just kind of starting to be like, hey, I want to live cleaner. I want to live healthier. I want to make these changes for my family. My advice is find one ingredient that you want to learn about. So maybe that's seed oils or Maybe it's artificial food dyes. And you're going to be like, okay, I want to learn everything I can about seed oils. I'm going to get so good, expert level, good at reading this in a label, spotting it, so that I can then remove everything in my pantry, in my freezer, in my fridge that has seed oils in it. And you're going to eliminate everything in your life that has that ingredient. And then whether that takes, takes two weeks till you feel expert level or a year, you will then move on to the next thing, you know, high fructose corn syrup or whatever it is. And then you're gonna, you're gonna start phasing that out of your family's life. And so that works for most people. I'm just an all in person. So I started with the food and then the very, very last thing for me was Botox. I stopped getting lip filler because several years ago, because I started just seeing beauty trends change. So it was just really in to have super huge juicy lips. And then all of a sudden it became ugly. So that was me, like I was convinced honestly, because I'm a trend watcher and I love, like, I love when Gen Z says this is in, this is out or whatever. Even as a millennial, I'm like, ooh, fun. Yeah, I love fashion and stuff. So I like changing my look as, as times change, still keeping things age appropriate, but like making little shifts. So I was on board with like, okay, lip filler is kind of going out. So that's why I stopped getting lip filler Botox. I was hanging on to dear life for and I want to make this preface, I was hanging on to Botox as my like one little thing that I was doing. And when I tell you that I am perfect about food, I am 99.8% perfect on my food. So for me, getting nails done, dyeing my hair, you know, I mix and match toxic and non toxic makeup and skincare. And then I was doing Botox. What ended up happening was the last time I got Botox, which was we're going on two years ago, I had flu like symptoms for a week. A month goes by, I get my hair done, my hair stylist is washing my hair. She says, something is not right with you. Your hair is falling out.
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A
But that was scary.
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B
It was super scary. She said, I think you need to go get your thyroid checked. I waited about six months. I went and did the whole Dutch hormone test, found out that I had an autoimmune disease that I Have Hashimoto's hair falling out, hair loss, things like that. That's all attributed to Hashimoto's. What happened, I believe, was a combination of a lifelong. Of every vaccine flu shot, every single fall, like clockwork. Always just thought, good people get a flu shot. Botox, since I was about 23 years old, every three months. And also, you know, toxin overload in my life. Fragrance, artificial fragrance, candles, perfumes, you know, in my make makeup products, in my body washes, the food that I was eating. So birth control for 10 years. My toxic load bucket had started to overflow. And that last round of Botox, I believe, is what tipped me over the edge and where I couldn't handle it any longer. And so I thought, I can't do this anymore because I know people that have had, you know, Botox illness and permanent damage with Botox. And I just thought I could be one round away from, you know, being majorly sick from Botox. So I couldn't risk it any longer. I knew it was exacerbating my autoimmune.
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A
Yeah, gosh, it is tempting sometimes. I've never had Botox or fillers or anything like that, but yesterday I was at the dentist and the dentist was saying, you hold so much tension right here. Which of course I do. I always have. She was like, have you ever considered like, Botox right there? And I was like, could I get away with it if it's for a medical reason? And I could justify it by saying it's not just vanity. Then she started saying, you know, it can make your face look. Look slimmer and all of that stuff. But I've also heard stories of it causing like Bell's palsy in your face, especially when it's so close to these nerves. Like, it would not be worth it. It would not be worth it. I'm just got a gua sha, maybe a little bit better on my masseters instead of injecting myself with toxins.
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B
Want me to tell you something crazy about Botox nobody is talking about?
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A
Yes, please.
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B
So, first of all, everybody wants to bring up that Botox is a neurotoxin. That is true. And that is a risk in and of itself. But the ingredient that no one is talking about is a human derivative is a derivative of human blood. Now, we do not know. It is not disclosed to the consumer. If this derivative of human blood and Botox contains the MRNA vaccine, that is a massive risk that consumers should know. And the other thing is, and here's what I'm going to say, that's going to be controversial and everybody's going to get very upset. This is the number one thing. If I. There are two things Ali that I talk about that piss people off. It's Taylor Swift and it's Botox.
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A
Oh, we haven't even gotten to Taylor Swift yet.
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B
We were going to go there. Oh, my gosh, I forgot about that. Forgot about that with this show. So the thing about Botox is you and I are about the same age. We're about a year apart. And your skin looks great.
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A
And you're like, your skin looks.
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B
You're wrinkle free. I don't know if you've noticed, and I'm just gonna say it and people are gonna say mean girl energy, and that's fine. I don't care. I look so much younger than basically everyone that I graduated high school with. When I see pictures of them way more like fine lines and wrinkles starting to develop. Now that we're in our early 30s, I attribute my wrinkle freeness to getting Botox starting in my mid-20s. Now I know that that's going to upset everybody. That is not to say that there's clearly a risk that my toxin bucket overflowed. I. I think part of me developing an autoimmune disease and everything like that, I think Botox contributed. But I still think that I can say Botox also helped my face not settle into fine lines and wrinkles. I think I, I am so. I have so much expression when I talk.
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A
Right.
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B
There is no way that I would not have way deeper fine lines right now if I wouldn't have been getting that. So I think two things can be true. I think the product can work for some people, but there's also a massive risk. So you have to decide for yourself as a consumer, is, you know, it worth the risk for me to try getting this, or is it not? And then that's up to you. But the people that freak out, like, you know, you can't talk about this. You couldn't get this. You need to age gracefully. Whatever. Boo on you. I don't care. Like, I don't think that there's anything wrong with wanting to age slower than somebody else, but people, like, really grab onto that. Like, I don't know, it's almost like people just get real, like, pious about it. Like, I'm better than you because I'm choosing to not dye my hair, do anything, or wear very much makeup, and I'm aging gracefully. And they just really like to wield that over people. And I just think, I think it's silly.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And that's fine. And people can disagree with me on that.
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A
But you know, Costi Hen and I were just talking about this because we got asked about it on stage in a Q and A and I think you go to Costee's church, right? Yeah. And I was just doing a women's conference with him over the weekend and someone asked us about this and he made a good point about not being pious and not assuming someone's motives are just vanity if they do have like lip fillers or something. Like, it always goes to the heart. And for me, I do have to ask myself, like, what is my motivation? And while I don't think it's something to wield over people, I do think that it is worth having a conversation with yourself and asking you what is motivating me to do any kind of beauty? Totally. Whatever it is, is it just like my preference or do I think that more people are going to like me? Am I afraid of aging? Because I agree, like, I will do everything non invasive to try to age as, like gracefully as possible and to prevent those wrinkles. But I also have to remind myself that I'm 33 and I will not look like I, I did at 25. I won't look like a 22 year old. And that's okay. And I have to accept that and be like, not everyone had the blessing of turning 33.
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B
That's true.
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A
So there is, I think, a conversation to be had with yourself, an honest conversation. Because doing things strictly out of vanity is going to lead you down a path that is like, never ending.
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B
Well, here's the other spicy thing that everyone's gonna get mad at me for saying. Okay, anecdotally, okay, and there's not been official research on this, but I'm saying, anecdotally, all these women that talk about, oh, you know, Botox poisoning and I developed this problem and, and whatever, Groupons. I'm just saying, wait, that's what caused.
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A
It because it was the cheaper version.
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B
You. I'm saying if you are going to take the risk and you're going to get Botox, you better use the. You better not take any shortcuts. Oh yeah, you better find an expert injector that you trust with your life and, and pay a pretty penny for it. The Groupon women getting Botox are almost always the ones saying like, I had a bad side effect or I had a bad. Had, you know, I had a bad outcome.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I'm just saying Ask them, did you use a Groupon to go somewhere for your Botox? Just, I think it's worth asking.
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A
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B
No, I don't hold to it. And let me tell you, this whole thing is just crap because.
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A
Oh, I thought that came from you. I thought you said 80 20.
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B
Everyone says it. I make a joke of people that say this because here's the truth, majority of people when they say like, well, this is part of my 80 20, I'm 80 20. You're not, you're not. Because the average American is truly not completely cutting out ultra processed food. They're still going to Chick Fil A a couple times a week, you know, or, or before baseball practice or whatever. I mean, almost no one is, is really eating that way. And so your 8020 actually becomes more like, like, geez, 40 60. And the 40 is what is clean and the 60 is what is not. I mean, that's what is probably more accurate for most people. So for me, I mean, when I tell you. So, like today, today, before the show, my team was like, okay, if you want to drink besides water, the only option that we're gonna be able to do while we're here and we're filming or whatever is we're gonna have to do a Starbucks run. What do you want now? The last time I had Starbucks, I don't even know. I don't even know. It's probably been over a year. I don't ever go out. My. My whole department will go and get Chick Fil A or whatever, and I'm the only one that won't do it. I truly withstand, like, getting any of that food. What's in my 20 or. I don't even think it's a 20. I really think I'm more like 90. 10 is hair, skin, and nails. I mean, that's my beauty stuff. And then clothing. Clothing materials. So if you really want to talk about, like, the crunchiest of the crunchy, I mean, those people are literally only wearing wool, cotton, linen. Some people adhere to that. It's just not possible with you and I, with events that we do, you know, formal gowns, you know, filming shows, needing to look nice, like, sorry, but we need to have cute outfits. So it's like, I'm not going to only be wearing natural fibers.
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A
Yeah, I just could. That is like, the hardest thing. I got this ball gown for that, like, Turning Point inaugural ball, and it was beautiful. And then when I looked on the inside label, it was 100 polyester.
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B
So it's like we're wearing oil byproducts. You know what I mean? It's like, what are we gonna do? So that's not realistic to me. So I would say that's in my, like, 10% of not clean. But I mean, everyone that works with me can vouch for. I do practice what I preach, and people get very upset about that. They think I'm lying or it's not possible. It is possible. You just don't want to do it. We prioritize what is important to us, whether that's screen time for your kids or it's, you know, the food that you're feeding your family. If you really want to, you will. And people do not like that conviction and that accountability. And so I just tell people you're not working hard enough. If you really care about this and you're learning all this stuff with the Maha movement, you know that what we're saying is true. You need to do something about it. I just interviewed somebody. He made such a good point. He said, people think, you know, we only vote every four years. You don't. You vote when it comes to food and pharma three times a day. What's going on your plate? So those decisions that the woman is making for her household and her family are so unbelievably critical into completely reshaping the market in the food that is offered and the food that is sold in our grocery stores. It is the mother that is making those decisions that impacts it. So if you are not willing to go all in, you are holding the Maha movement back.
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A
Yeah, that's really good. And I know that you do practice what you preach, and you talk about it a lot, too. There's a lot of transparency with you, which I'm sure maybe makes some people feel bad, but I think a lot of the you make me feel bad about this really is just conviction.
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B
Every time. Every time.
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A
It's just guilt. And we've all experienced that to somebody.
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B
Of course, all the time. I do all the time, too. I mean, oh, my gosh. Costi Hinn is my. Is my preacher. I feel convicted all the time. He just did a whole sermon on forgiveness and. And how unbiblical it is to not forgive people.
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A
Oh.
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B
And I love my grudges, so that is very hard for me. So, yes, I have other things in my life where, you know, I feel those things, but I feel really confident about. About all the health and wellness practices that I do.
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A
Yeah. Okay. Let's shift into professional conversation about the branding change for a culture apothecary, because you and I talk behind the scenes and before the shift to culture apothecary, I think it's okay for me to say, like, you were feeling a little burned out. Like, there were days that you were like. You were like, I don't want to. I don't know if I want to do this anymore. I feel so much pressure. I want to build an audience. Do people still love politics? I love politics, but do I? And so, like, we had those kind of conversations, I don't know, a year and a half ago, maybe even two years ago, when you were wondering, do I even really want to do this anymore? And it seems to me from an outsider's perspective, that there has just been new life breathed into you and your career, your professional pursuits over the past year since this shift has happened into Maha.
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B
Well, thank you. Yeah. I would like to think so. And I think that shows that I'm truly passionate about this. And so I think it comes out in my work that, you know, there is more, you know, new life breathed into the show. But I was doing this pop culture show. I mean, I started. I got hired at turning point in 2019. So what? I was like, 26. And that made sense. There was no pop culture show in the conservative movement. Like a daily show, just covering entertainment news from a conservative perspective.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And so I started doing that, and that was fun and it was needed, and it. It was, you know, like, I created that a couple months before the pandemic, and that was what we needed. That, like, fun and silliness and levity in such a scary, dark time when a lot of us were working from home. And I loved it. You know, it was just like, such a stupid show. But, like, it had a purpose. It was stupid. While also kind of being like the introductory point to conservatism for a lot of young women that were like, ooh, conservatism, scary. I don't know, they don't seem like fun people. And like, this kind showed, like, we are fun. We like pop culture. We can keep up with the Kardashians. You know, it was like, it was that, and that had its purpose. But as I got older, just as my audience is getting older, you know, I'm hitting my 30s and I'm like, I have other things that I think are more important that I want to talk about. Like, when I was totally radicalized on health and wellness throughout the pandemic, that was important to me. Like, I need people to know this. Like, I feel like I am wasting precious time for these people who are getting married and starting families and having kids. This information that could be life changing for their families. By not talking, talking about it, I felt a huge pressure to talk about this. And it was a fight. It was a fight behind the scenes for me to completely transition and focus on this. There was a lot of, I think this is a mistake. Do people really want to talk about health and wellness all day? I don't understand what this has to do with the conservative movement. Why would we talk about health? And I was saying, I mean, what? I was screaming blue in the face. I was like, this is the future of the conservative movement with women. If you do not listen to me, we are going to lose a massive amount of feedback. Female voters, this subject can change the election. We can win the election with undecided female voters if we focus on health and wellness. Everybody thought I was nuts when I. We have our women's conference every June with Turning Point, the Women's Leadership Summit, in last year, you know, last January. We're planning for June, and I'm going, we need to focus on health, and it needs to be 90. Health and wellness. Nobody wanted to do that. It was like, this seems insane. I don't understand this. This is a wild hair that Alex has. I think we're really going to regret this. They begrudging. Let me do it. Two months later, RFK comes out and endorses Trump on stage. Now, I was right, and I made sure everybody knew it, but. But I could see the writing on the wall, because when I would talk about health and wellness issues and what's wrong with our food system and what's wrong with the pharmaceutical industry being completely corrupted in America, my numbers and my downloads were, like, four times the size. And so what happened was RFK comes out on stage, endorses Trump, says, we're going to focus on making America healthy again. It's going to become a core tenant of the Trump campaign. President Trump is talking about it now. All of a sudden, the conservative movement is, well, now. Who in the conservative movement is focusing on health? It was me, because I had started that transition about, like, a year ahead of time with my content. And then my rebrand officially happened, like, two weeks after RFK comes out and endorses Trump. And then I testify at the Senate on this issue. And it just all was like God opening doors, like, one after the one after the other. And I became, like, the conservative health and wellness girl. And I just thought, like, okay, this is the time. Like, God was preparing me for this. I needed to go through being the chicken nugget princess and getting all the Botox and thinking that GMOs were stupid so that I could be the perfect person to kind of address these women who have been in the same boat as me, as Christian conservatives and millennials, especially, being, like, we were sold a lie, I fell for. We have to completely change everything that we've known and thought for our entire lives.
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A
Yeah.
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B
If I would have been somebody that's, oh, I've always been drinking raw milk. I've always said the birth control was poison. Nobody's gonna listen to me, But I'm going through the journey with them. So it worked out perfectly for me to kind of learn as I'm going at the same time as my audience. And so I think that's bowed really well. But, yeah, I mean, when I transitioned to all of This, I was more excited. It was like, finally I understood. Like, I liked pop, like politics, but I don't think I ever felt like I was home. I don't think that I ever felt like this is what I'm going to do for the rest of my life. And also, I'm not an idiot. I've been in media and I've been hosting number one shows since I was 18 years old in different markets, in different cities. I've been doing this for a long time.
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A
Yeah. People might not know you have a background in radio.
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B
Yeah. So I started doing morning radio with pop morning shows. I started it as an 18 year old. And so I understand that you have to be willing to grow, to move, to get uncomfortable in order to grow your audience and to outlive, like, to survive this industry. If you're like, I'm gonna do the same thing forever, never change, like, no little shifts at all. Like your show's gonna die, like, you're not gonna to. To. To survive and pop, I'm sorry, but pop culture, when I'm 40, it's not going to, it's not gonna work. So I understood that with that content, also, there was a very obvious expiration date. Brett Cooper is gonna experience that. I mean, I've talked to her about that. Like, there comes a point with that content where it's like, okay, I have are like, it's going to be silly me doing this. So it's like every talent, if you start doing that in your teens or your 20s, like, you shift over. I mean, you see that with YouTubers all the time and everything that focus on pop culture. But I just knew that health and wellness is like forever. That's something that I can become a mother with. I can, you know, have a family with and talk about this content. And it doesn't seem weird or out of place. You know, my content can shift and I'm focusing a lot more on kids and whatever. And so it just was the right move, I felt like, for longevity in my career. And I fought tooth and nail for it, and I'm so glad that I did. And, you know, same with politics. When I started politics, basically everyone outside Turning Point thought, this is stupid. What a waste of time for the conservative movement. This is embarrassing for the conservative movement. I was so made fun of on Twitter at the time for that show. Just people being like, who the heck is this girl? This is the stupidest show I've ever seen. Like, this is an embarrassment to the, to the movement. It wasn't for Them, it wasn't for them. And I knew that. I knew who I was talking to and they needed it and it was the right risk. And so sometimes I think, think when it comes to wanting to have a career in media, especially in the conservative movement, like, you've got to find where is there a hole and where can I kind of create a niche that is needed and create a product that doesn't exist? And a lot of people want to like get into what you and I do and just, I just want to talk about conservative news. Sorry, but that's almost nearly impossible that you're going to be, be a success.
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A
Way over saturated.
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B
You have to be an absolute mega superstar like Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Glenn Beck. You have to be those types of people to survive. And almost none of us are those people. I am not that person. I would be, you know, way over my head if I was going on college campuses and trying to debate kids. I would suck. You're really good at debate. I am not. But what I, I know what I'm good at and I stuck with that and I've grown with that. And so, you know, it's, people ask me all the time like, well, I want to do what you do or I want to do what Ali does. And it's, you have to really focus on like, okay, what is super niche, Find your niche. What is super unique about me or a unique take that I can give? Like with you it's always Christ, biblical worldview on cultural and political news. That's your niche. So like Ali is doing that. So anyway, that's my advice for people that want to get into this and how can I grow and how can I kind of survive this industry?
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A
Do you have any misgivings about RFK within the MAHA movement? Are you 100% gung ho about what he's going to do in the cdc? Do you have any concerns about his background, about his abortion position or do you feel like in this role like he's ready to rock and it's going to be amazing. Amazing.
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B
I'm not concerned about RFK Jr and his abortion views whatsoever. As a pro life conservative, RFK Jr. And Trump said this, he's not touching anything besides the health stuff. I mean, he has nothing to do with abortion. So. So while personally him and I disagree on a lot of things politically, I mean, that's why I didn't want to vote for him as president, because I do disagree with him on abortion and foreign policy and I mean, he agrees with like affirmative action. And different things that I don't. So as a president disaster, as you know, being in charge of Health and Human Services, absolute five star incredible. He's going to bring back five star gold science standards that we've been needing desperately for decades. We've got Dr. Marty Makary in charge of the FDA. Yeah, yeah, he's been on your show. So you know him. And we got to testify the Senate. So that's where I met him. I didn't know who Marty was before that.
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A
And Jay Bhattacharya. Dr. Bhattacharya. I think he's involved to some degree in the child administration, too. He's another one of those, like Ivy League educated doctors who, you know, came out against the COVID mandates and all of that. So it's not just rfk. Like, there are a lot of people in those positions that are going to do good.
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B
There's a lot of people that are going to do good. And listen, there's some people that I don't like. I am not crazy about our USDA pick of Department of Agriculture. Brooke, She's a seed oil lobbyist. So that was an interesting choice that I disagree with.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
So that wasn't someone I would have chosen. I would have loved to see Congressman Massie in that position. That's who I was rooting for. So, you know, that was a disappointment. But with everything that's good, I think there's still a lot of changes that can be made that will be beneficial. And maybe, you know, here's the thing too, and I've said this before, when it comes to somebody like Brooke, who has ties to different things and food, things that I disagree with, I was doing that two years ago. You know, I wasn't who I am now when it comes to health and wellness two years ago. So for her, you know, being in this administration, hearing what she's going to hear now from people like Dr. Marty or RFK Jr. She could be changed. Be like, oh, my gosh, everything that I did before in my career, like, I totally disagree with it. I've been completely changed. I have a change of heart. I want to, you know, run the Department of Agriculture totally differently. I want to run the USDA totally differently. She could have, you know, total mind change and we don't know. So I don't want to say so.
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A
Like, she will do a good job in that role. She is a really good leader. I really like Brooke. I didn't know about some of the seed oil stuff, but I think that's A good point. That she could, in the midst of this, Maha, change her perspective on some of those really important things and then be the perfect fit.
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B
Absolutely, yeah.
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A
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B
Oh, it's completely different. This is it.
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A
Okay, tell me about them.
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B
So nobody knows this, but Steve and I met on Hinge. And I actually was home. I was. This is right when my dad passed away. And, I mean, I was there for a very long time. I was home in Indiana, bored to death. Honestly, like, just dealing with that, the ins and outs of that for, like, you know, a little over three weeks. And I just thought one night, like, okay, I'm just gonna get on Hinge. I'm gonna put my location back home in Scottsdale, which is where. And I'm just gonna swipe because there's just nothing else to do. And, you know, I've been on Hinge off and on for a few years. Like, I'll get on for a Couple months, and then I'll delete it, and then I'll be off for a year or two, and then I'll get back on. And so I was on there, and he had this outrageous prompt that said something like, pick our first date. Hot air balloon ride over Ukraine, candlelit dinner at the Gaza Strip, or, like, go get a polar pop at Circle K at, like, some ghetto cross streets in Phoenix. And I laughed out loud. And I was like, this is, like, hilarious, and so not politically correct. And so I. I just commented. I said, like, I'm obsessed with this. Like, this is hilarious. Like, how many girls are, like, upset and offended by this prompt? And so we started talking, and, I mean, it was like the wittiest, funniest back and forth. And I texted my friends, like, after a couple hours of talking to him, and he had gotten my number, and then we were texting, and I texted my friends that night, and I said, guys, this is. So I said, I have not. I said, guys, this is crazy. Like, I do not remember since high school ever talking to a guy and laughing so hard. Hard that I'm crying, like, the entire time we're talking. Like, I don't know. I just have not. I mean, I've had, like, boyfriends and, like, different things that we had in common or whatever, but nobody's, like, really made me laugh so hard. Like, my stomach hurt. And this guy was so funny, and, like. And in the midst of this, we're having serious conversation, and, I mean, I'm. I'm, like, bringing stuff up and. And. And making sure that we're, like, aligned on different things. And, like, he's hitting all the marks. And I'm like, what the heck? This is such an anomaly. And, gosh, it was so good to laugh, too, in the midst of, like, dealing with such tremendous grief with my dad passing away. And so it was like, it was just such a relief to, like, have that. And he, you know, he's asking me, like, what's going on? You know, when are you home? Like, let's. Let's go out. And so I go on this first date.
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A
Who you are?
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B
Had no idea.
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A
He didn't. He didn't follow you.
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B
He. He saw, like, on my Hinge profile, it said podcaster, but I don't say anything besides that, like, for my job. And so he did ask. He's like, what podcast? And things like that. And so when he tells it now, he kind of roasts me. He's like, yeah. I mean, I see this girl on him. She's like, I'm a podcaster. I'm like, okay, what's your real day job? And like, he kind of like made fun of me. Then he's like, oh, this is like legit.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And so he had no idea who I was. Had. Not really. I don't even think he had really voted in any election until this one. And he. Yeah, he had voted for Trump and that was like his first time voting. And so like he had just started like kind of dipping his toe in politics. So he's not like in this world whatsoever. Like he knew who Charlie Kirk was, but like that was about it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And so we go on this first date, from the moment we see each other, it's like lightning in a bottle. Really insane attraction. Can't stop talking, can barely eat our food because we just cannot stop talking to each other. It's like he's the male version of me. Like a psychotic, you know, funny, witty, like just off the wall, like that is him. It's me as a guy. And I. We end up talking so long at the dinner portion that we're like, okay, let's go to the next place. We like go to another place and get cocktails so we can keep talking. And then we talk so long there and then we sh. Place down. We're like, okay, well we, we're not done talking. Like I. We're going on like seven, eight hours on this first date. He lives very near there. So we go to his place. He has like a beautiful rooftop with like a fire pit and stuff. So he grabs me a sweatshirt cuz I had like a little dress and boots on. And we go up on his roof and we light a fire because it's still pretty cold. It's January. And we sit up there and we're talking for like another four hours.
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A
Wow.
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B
And I end that date. I'm like, I'm taking this with me. Because I knew I was like, if I take this sweatshirt with me, he has to see me again to get it back. So he texts his friends and he says, she took my sweatshirt so I'd have to see her again. I like this one. And I texted my friends and I, they said, okay, one word overall, like, what's your thoughts on this date? And I said, peace. I had never felt so myself, so completely like secure. And like everything about this man, the physical chemistry, the intellectual chemistry, the emotional connection, everything was perfect.
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A
Just clicked.
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B
Just clicked. And I also want to say that this. And I know we have a short amount of time.
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A
It's okay.
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B
The Christian circles on social media who say it is overrated, overblown, you do not need to have any type of physical or sexual chemistry with the person that you marry.
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A
I just did a rant on this.
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B
They are lying to you and they are setting you up for failure. Yeah. You also do not have to have sex to know if you have sexual, physical chemistry with somebody. You do not, you know, know instantly if you have sexual chemistry with somebody. It is something that's intangible, it's indescribable. And I have been on plenty of dates that was like, oh, he hits every box or whatever. But like, I don't feel that like spark, like you should be with somebody that you are marrying, that you're like, I cannot wait to have sex with this person. Like, I cannot wait. That is like an absolute no brainer. The Christian people that are like, it doesn't really matter, that shouldn't be. It is extremely important. It is. So I felt all of that with him and one of the moments was, which was like a non sexual thing that I was like, like, this is amazing because I think it's important for the single girlies that are like holding out. They're like, I wish I just want to have it all. Like, I want like the physical connection, I want the faith connection. Like, I want to be aligned biblically. I want to be aligned, you know, politically. You can wait for this. And like this. It used to drive me nuts when people like when you know, you know, and I used to be like, stop saying that. It is so annoying to me as somebody who really wants to be married. And like, I'm waiting for this. Like, that didn't make sense until I met him. And, and now it makes sense. So now I get it, which is very frustrating for people that are single. But let me tell you something that happened when we were walking on the side of the street. There came a point where I was on the outside and he was on the inside. And to move me to be on the inside of the street, like as a gentleman, he put his hands kind of like on my waist and kind of moved my body like quick, like fast inside. And I was like, oh my gosh. That like very non sexual touch. I like, it was like electricity when we kiss electricity. But like everything else, so aligned and. And by our second date too, let me say this, it's clarity and direction and leading. On the second date, he looked at me and our second date was church together. Our second date, he looked at me after we left Costi's church. And he said, you're not going to see anybody else? I'm not seeing anybody else. I think we can call this what it is. We're dating a couple weeks later. Said, I love you. Said, like, I know you're the person that I'm going to marry.
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A
Wait, when did this start? What month was this?
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B
It was first. Our first date was first week of January.
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A
Okay. So really, this is.
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B
This is soon. But it's like. It's one of those things where it's like, we absolutely know. And he. What's interesting, too, is that he was the person that his friends were like, I don't know that he's ever gonna get married. Like, they'd ask him every date he'd go on or whatever. It's like, what do you think about her? Like, are you excited about it? Like, he was never excited about anybody. In fact, his hinge profile said, because it gives you the option to say, like, do you want. Want to have kids? And his said, unsure. And that really freaked me out. Yeah, so that was like, my one, like, super red flag about him. Before our first date, I said, I need to ask you about this, because if I'm not even going on the date with you, if this is the case, I said, why does your hinge profile say unsure about kids? And he said, well, I've just never met a girl that I could see being the wife and mother, you know, that I'm imagining. And so I've been like, well, geez, I don't know. Like, I don't know that I can picture myself having kids. And, you know, every serious girlfriend he's had and everything's like, I don't know. I don't know that I want kids. And then he met me, and he was like, I want everything with you. Like, I want the family. I want everything. His, his parents, his best friends were all like. I mean, I've read the messages of, like, oh, this is it. Like, we've never seen you talk about a girl like this. Like, we know this is it. And met his family already he's meeting mine. I have to go home to Indiana to do my dad's memorial service. We kind of delayed it to get out of winter months because I am from Indiana, so we wanted people to be able to, like, show up. So just to make sure we're out of winter and, like, it's beautiful weather. Hopefully. Hopefully we're having my dad's memorial in April, and so he's gonna come with me. He's Gonna meet everybody. He's met some of my friends, he's gonna meet more of my friends there. And yeah, we, we went ring shopping. That was a surprise.
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A
On your birthday, right?
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B
On my birthday he took me ring shopping.
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A
He showed up and he said we're going ring shopping.
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B
So I did like a whole birthday weekend and the day before we went ring shopping, he said, so do you want to know what one of your birthday surprises is? And I was like, well sure. And he's like, it's kind of an experience. And I was like, yeah, you know, I had no idea.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And he, he was like, how would you like to go look at rings tomorrow? And I just sat with that for a second because like I've wanted to hear that my entire life and not just with anybody. See, it's with him that I'm like anyone else I probably would have got real nervous like. Cause I don't know, there's things I need to work out. And that's the thing too with talking about with him. With my friends, it was like, it was always like a boyfriend. Well, he's amazing but like, ah, everything's so good. I really like him. But there's this one thing that like we just kind of need to work through whatever. With him I have no buts. I have no things that I'm worried about or need to work through or like have questions or concerns. Like none of it. Like. And so when he said do you want to go ring shopping? You know, and it was just to get, I want to do a custom design for my ring. So it was more to like get an idea of cut, size, color, like we didn't buy anything. Like he's going to add a few other things to it that I don't know about. So like when he does finally propose, which I don't know when that will be, I think soon. But when that does happen then I'm not going to know anything else. And like I'll be surprised with the final product. But he needed, and I needed an idea of like cut and stone and, and size and all that. Cuz also I think it's important and some girls are like. I got some comments when I posted that that I disagreed with saying like, well if you're really marrying a guy that really truly loves you, he should just know what you want. No, I am extremely particular about everything that I wear, how I do my hair, my makeup, I mean anything like style wise, like I need to have a say in it. And I've never, I've Never looked or tried on wedding dresses. I've never looked or tried on rings. I have no idea what I want because I knew that I wanted to save that moment to do all of it the first time when I, I met my husband and so I, you know, went and tried things on and everything. For the first time, I didn't know what I wanted, so I had to have that experience. So I think it's. There's nothing wrong with going ring shopping before your guy.
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A
Want to love it in 10 years.
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B
Well, exactly.
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A
And I do. I like still love my ring so much. But you know what? I sent a picture to Chief Relay bro, like, this is what I want. He got a ring and his sister, my blessed sister in law was like, the ring that he got was like, that doesn't look like what she showed you. And I eventually saw a picture of what he originally got. It was not what I wanted.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But he went back to the jewelry store and got what I wanted. And I still love my ring so much. So it's important.
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B
I just thought that was stupid to be like, well, you know, this just speaks to like, he doesn't know her very well. That's why he has to take her with. I'm like, no, he knows me so well that he knows that I would want to go with to pick that out. So anyway, yeah, I, we're. I mean, he told me you're. We're going to be married by the end of the year.
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A
Wow.
- [54:02]
B
Yeah.
- [54:02]
A
Okay. So short engagement, which I'm totally for.
- [54:05]
B
Totally for. Cuz I told you.
- [54:06]
A
Yes. I said the same thing last week when chief related bro was on. I said, I hated when people said when, you know, you know. And I really just like wanted some kind of formula, but it's not, it really is that. Can't eat, can't sleep. I have to be with this person. And of course it's more than that too. You have to be able to picture a future with them. Of course it's a given that you have to have the same values they have to be a strong Christian, all of these things. But you also have to click with them and love them and want to be with them. I just think romance is a gift that God gave us and it would be silly to squander it. And so I love it. I love your story so much. I'm so excited for you. Thank you. I mean, the Internet is gonna freak out when you get engaged and you.
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B
Got to meet him.
- [54:47]
A
Yes, I did.
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B
Yeah.
- [54:48]
A
Very, very briefly.
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B
You got to meet him. And you know, everyone that's met him has loved him and like, oh my gosh, he's literally. He's literally you as a guy. Like, you guys are so silly together. And you know, I have always said that it was such this weird, specific thing that I knew I wanted, like, I needed somebody that was kind of like a psychopath hamster like me. And, and he is, but also, you know, Christian, conservative, all the other things that I wanted. What does he do?
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A
Can you say?
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B
Yeah, he. So he has a business where he helps people that own blue collar businesses understand, like Facebook marketing, things like that, to scale their business. Because a lot of people that, like, if you're in landscaping or window washing or, or, you know, paint, exterior painting services or things like that, they're so good at their skill set, but they don't understand, like, how to grow on social media and like, do use marketing to their advantage on Facebook and stuff to get customers. So he helps train them on how to do that. So that's his. His thing. And then he also owns one of the biggest Christmas light companies, residential and commercial Christmas lights in the Valley, which is what we call Phoenix area. So he has his own blue collarbone business. Scaled that and grew that. And then he teaches people how to do what he did.
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A
I love it. I love it. Match made in Heaven. This is amazing. I'm so excited for everything going on for you professionally and personally. I've got to get you out of here or else I'm going to get in trouble because you've got another show to go on. Alex, thank you so much.
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B
Thank you very much.