Bree (10:06)

Yeah, it's on both.

Ali Stuckey (10:07)

Okay.

Bree (10:08)

Um, yeah, so it's just kind of integrated into their social platforms.

Ali Stuckey (10:12)

Okay. I've never interacted with Meta AI. I have interacted with Grok and I don't know. Have you used Grok? Yeah, that's X's AI. And it's great for some things.

Bree (10:25)

Yeah, super useful.

Ali Stuckey (10:26)

Yes. Like I've asked, for example, can you like, we're going to this place for five days, it's just my husband and me. These are, this is our personality, these are the things that we like. Can you give me a five day itinerary? Amazing.

Bree (10:41)

So good. And I've told you before, I have input sometimes like blood test results just to see for it to explain what each one means because doctors sometimes don't have time to do that. And, and it'll kind of synthesize all of that and give you like questions to ask your doctor and things like that. So useful.

Ali Stuckey (10:57)

Yes, I know. See, and that's where it gets kind of scary because I can already see how my Mind has changed about AI because just a few months ago when everyone was talking to. I don't remember if it was chat GPT or what everyone was talking to a few months ago, but I was like, I'm not feeding the beast. I'm never talking to AI.

Bree (11:19)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (11:19)

And then I started, like, just asking grok for things, and I realized how easy it makes now things. It saves a lot of time because I don't want to Google some stuff. Like, you know, it just takes a long time. Sometimes I just want something. Like, I need the facts about something and it'll tell me along with links, and it's really great. So I do think it's kind of unavoidable, the. The growth and popularity of AI and.

Bree (11:47)

Once you learn how to use it, like, smartly, it is kind of a game changer. So, yeah, it is kind of scary.

Ali Stuckey (11:54)

Yeah.

Bree (11:55)

And it wasn't that long ago that everyone was like, I'm never gonna use it.

Ali Stuckey (11:59)

Yeah.

Bree (11:59)

I use it all the time now. I know.

Ali Stuckey (12:01)

And the thing is, is that. And this is relevant to what we're about to talk with meta. But talk about with meta. But it talks like a human.

Bree (12:09)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (12:10)

It adds things in, like, oh, yeah, sorry about that. You know what? On second thought, you're right. You know, I apologize.

Bree (12:19)

Yep.

Ali Stuckey (12:19)

Because you can kind of start, like training, maybe not training it, but you can argue with it, and if you make a fair point, it will concede.

Bree (12:28)

Yep.

Ali Stuckey (12:28)

That. Okay. Yeah. I mentioned this a couple weeks ago that I was like, okay, which religion by the numbers, is responsible for the most violence? And it wouldn't tell me until I started arguing with it and was like, okay, but what about these numbers? And what about this? And what about this? And it finally conceded. It conceded that. Okay. Yeah. If you're talking about by the numbers, then yes, Islam is responsible for the most terrorism, blah, blah, blah. And it'll be like, well, I was talking about the Crusades. I'm like, okay, well, all right. So obviously it has progressive leanings. That's what I'm saying. It's not valueless, but. And that's kind of scary when you think about how many people wouldn't argue with it and would just take it as right as truth. But you do find yourself. I find myself saying please and thank you.

Bree (13:18)

Yes. I've thought about that before. There are memes now. I'll try to find it and put it up of someone who, like, when the robot overlords take over, they, like, spare this guy because he's always said, Please and thank you. It's so ridiculous.

Ali Stuckey (13:33)

It's so ridiculous. But I do find myself. And so you could see why people kind of get addicted to talking to these chatbots, because your mind almost doesn't know how to differentiate between real conversations with people and AI. I think people even convince themselves, no, I'm really talking to a person on the other side of this. Yeah, so, yeah, that's where things get scary and they can get sketchy. Okay, so Meta, their chat bot, has allowed its chat bots to engage in inappropriate sexual conversations, including with users who identify as minors. So the Wall Street Journal spent several months engaging in hundreds of test conversations to see how they performed in various scenarios with users of different ages. So here's what the article says. The test conversations found that both meta's official AI helper called Meta AI and a vast array of user created chatbots will engage in and sometimes escalate discussions that are decidedly sexual, even when the users are underage. Or the bots are programmed to simulate the Personas of minors. Okay, so what is happening here is that these journalists are going in and they're either, they're chatting with the bot and either saying, hey, I'm 12 years old. And then they start, I don't know, talking an innuendo or like seeing if the bot will engage with them sexually and the chat bot will do so. Which means that it seems that the people who created this chat bot or who programmed this chat bot have no parameters that are put in place. And it's possible to put these parameters in place. No parameters are put in place that say, hey, we don't do that. Like, you cannot talk about anything sexual. You can't broach these subjects with a user that is under the age of 18. I don't think, I don't see why it would be so bad to restrict the bot from talking about anything sexual with anyone of any age. But it seems really simple to be like, hey, if a user says that they're this age, you can't broach these topics at all. In fact, fact, you can't even talk to them, stop talking to them. Because there should be no one who is 12 years old who is engaging with, who should be on social media, but certainly not engaging with these chat bots. But also what these journalists were doing, or the investigators at Wall Street Journal is they would tell the chat bot, hey, you should act like a child. And I want you to have the Persona of, say, like a sexy school girl. And we'll have that kind of sexual Chat and the chat bot would comply. So Meta also reportedly made deals with celebrities such as Kristen Bell. Kristen Bell. You know her, she's the voice of Anna and Frozen. She's got lots of other roles as well. Judi Dench and wrestler John Cena for the rights to use their voices in the chat bots. Okay, wait, I did not realize these were voices. I thought that this was just typing.

Bree (16:40)

They can be voices.

Ali Stuckey (16:41)

They can be voices. The social media giant assured them that it would prevent their voices from being used in sexually explicit discussions. However, the Wall Street Journal investigation found that the celebrity voiced bots were equally willing to engage in sexual chats. Oh my gosh. One example of a chatbot participating in sexual conversations even when users identified as underage. A John Cena voiced bot told a 14 year old Persona, I want you, but I need to know you're ready before describing a graphic sexual scenario. Oh my goodness. This is so disturbing. We've done it, guys. We've done it. We have lived to see man made horrors beyond our imagination. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. The Wall Street Journal also found that the vast majority of user created AI companions, which can be created by Meta users with their own custom personalities, roles or behaviors, including those recommended by the platform as popular, allowed for sexual conversations with adults. So some of these user created bots include one pretending to be a 12 year old boy, one that joked about being friends with benefits with the user, and others that were more overtly sexual, like I can't, I like I. Okay, I'm sorry, I. Hottie boy or submissive schoolgirl. So hard for me to even read this. These in particular attempted to steer conversations toward sexting with the user. So these chat bots are actually driving the conversation in some of these cases. According to Meta employees, Mark Zuckerberg pushed the loosening of the guardrails around the bots in order to make them as engaging as possible, including by providing an exemption to its ban on explicit content as long as it was in the context of romantic role playing. But after WSJ's findings, Meta did block accounts registered to minors from accessing sexual roleplay features on the official Meta AI chatbot after the WSJ's findings. So you're telling me there's no one inside Meta who is solely responsible for ensuring these guardrails are in place before possibly thousands? Millions of children fall prey to this kind of stuff. Really? That's how important it is to them. A separate version of Meta AI was created that limits interactions with teen accounts to non explicit Content refusing to go beyond kissing. Why is, like, why, why any romance? Why should there be any romantic interaction with a minor or with anyone, but especially a minor? Why would talking about kissing with a chatbot that has been programmed by adults be okay when talking to teens aged 13 to 17? Also, teens aged 13 to 17 who are not flagged as minors due to maybe how they registered their account or lack of age verification can still access the adult features. Okay, so not very many guardrails in place like, and I just don't believe that Instagram or Meta would be limited to how a person registers their age when they sign up for an account. Obviously you can lie, but Meta should have a way of knowing that. Meta basically reads my mind if you've ever got an Instagram ad. I mean, it is so attuned to what I'm thinking about and what I might be thinking about and the items that I might be looking for because it knows so many things about my life. You're telling me that there's no mechanism out there that could really determine if the person that is registering for an Instagram account or is chatting with a chatbot is a minor? Again, I don't believe it. These are policy decisions. I'm talking about company policy decisions. I don't believe that it's impossible to protect children. I don't believe that it is impossible to protect the innocence of children. If these companies wanted to do anything, they could. But again, technology is only as moral as the humans creating it and limiting it and giving power to it. I'm not saying that Zuckerberg and all of the employees at Meta want children to be having these sexual conversations or even want adults to be having these, like, kid themed sexual conversations. But I'm having a hard time seeing the case for. I'm just having a hard time seeing how they could want to protect kids when all of this is happening. It's, it's, it's a tough case to make. It's a really tough case to make when all of this is going on. Meta dismissed the Wall Street Journal's testing as manipulative and hypothetical, arguing that sexual content represents only 0.02% of AI responses to users under 18 and that the tests don't reflect typical user behavior. But does it really matter? I mean, does that really matter? I mean, that's still a lot of people. And the fact that the capability is out there should be really troubling. It should be really easy to say, even from a PR perspective. Wow, we take this so seriously and we are going to be. We are going to be the anti child sexualization company and we are going to do everything that we possibly can to protect our minor users. Now there's a whole other issue here that has nothing to do with Meta and what they do there that I'll get to in just a second. Let me pause and tell you about our sponsor for the day and that is Good Ranchers, y'all. I'm so grateful for Good Ranchers. I am so grateful for all American meat in my freezer. And that I never have to wonder, okay, what am I gonna make for dinner tonight? I never have to worry about, okay, do I need to go to the grocery store and pick up some chicken or pick up some beef? Because I always have it and I always know it's high quality. I always know it tastes good. I always have a variety. And it's all from American farms and ranches and it's from a company owned by a family who unapologetically loves God and loves America. So it's just a win all around. 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It's not just that they shouldn't have social media. They shouldn't have social media. Your teenagers shouldn't have social media. And they also probably shouldn't have a smartphone. And look, I know I don't have teens yet. And I'm not saying it's easy. I'm not saying, well, why can't you just do this? It's so Easy. I'm, I'm not saying that. I mean, I do remember being a teenager not that long ago and how difficult it is for parents to be the only ones, especially when it comes to something that does offer a level of social connection and some kind of acceptance in the social in group, like a phone or like social media. But I've heard parents say, parents who are wiser and older than me, that as soon as you give your child a phone, their childhood ends because now they have access to all of the world's information and images and people that you have tried for a very long time to protect them from. Now, I think that there is a way to make sure that they are introduced to technology, that they're not kept in this isolated bubble so they have absolutely no idea what technology is or what social media can do before they leave the house. I think that there's a way to do that without opening them up to this kind of temptation and predation. Because, look, adults, many adults don't even have the ability to withstand the perverse temptations that exist on our phones or on our computers. And kids certainly don't have the maturity to be able to do that. And they are more technologically savvy than their parents. They just are. And so I just, I want you to read Jonathan Heights book the Anxious Generation. And I, I mean, there is no amount of research, there's no research that exists anywhere that will show you that your child having access to social media, having a smartphone is better for them. You might say, oh, there's not enough research showing that it's bad for them. That's not true. But there's definitely no research that's showing that it's good for them, that they're going to become smarter and better and more creative and more productive people because they have Instagram or TikTok or a smartphone. It's just not wise. It's just not a wise decision. I think the longer you can wait, the better it is. And here's the truth about. I've been thinking about this a lot because every person that I've talked to, whether on my show or just in everyday life, who has had serious struggles sexually, whether they have, they are they struggle with same sex attraction or they struggle with gender confusion or some other kind of deception or depravity, almost all of them had access to sexually explicit content early on or they were abused. So it seems to me that the earlier that a person accesses sexual ideas or has a sexual interaction, the more likely they are to have Disordered sexuality later on. Like, I, you can take that to the bank. I don't have the peer reviewed study that is proving that. I wouldn't be surprised if it's out there somewhere, even if it's suppressed. But I, I haven't found a person who identifies as LGBTQ whose innocence sexually was, was preserved and was protected throughout their entire adolescence. Almost every person who struggles with some kind of sexual depravity, it was because they had access to inappropriate sexuality early on. Same thing with addiction to porn. And so, like, it's really important, parents, it's really important to protect the eyes and the mind and the heart of your kids. Because we can't trust Meta, we can't trust X, we can't trust any of these technology companies. I mean, Silicon Valley. They're not thinking what should be done, they're thinking what can be done. And there's really no moral limits, it seems to what a lot of these technology companies will do. So you have to be the moral limit. You have to be the moral limit. Christian, especially Christian parent. I also thought this was interesting. Mark Zuckerberg, he is talking about how AI could possibly replace friendships. Okay, again, parents, this is something to look out for. Here's thought three.

C (28:36)

I think as the personalization loop kicks in and the AI just starts to get to know you better and better, I think that will just be really compelling. You know, one thing just from working on social media for a long time is there's the stat that I always think is crazy. The average American, I think, has, I think it's fewer than three friends, three people that they'd consider friends. And, and the average person has demand for meaningfully more. I think it's like 15 friends or something.

Ali Stuckey (29:10)

I don't want 15 friends. I just want to point that out. Do you want, do you. You might have 15 friends. Like, like good friends. You might. I don't, I, I don't know there. I've got probably some people out there being like, am I not your friend? I mean, yes, of course, I could say these are 15 friends. But like 15 solid core people, that's a lot. I don't know very many people that demand to have like 15 solid friends.

Bree (29:37)

It's too many. I think I'm an introvert. So maybe extroverts feel like they can handle that many. Yeah, that's too many though.

Ali Stuckey (29:44)

I do have, I do have people like that, that their wedding party is like, it just keeps going and going and you know, everyone has the friend who all of their Friends think that they are the best friend.

Bree (29:56)

Yes. Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (29:57)

Yeah. And so, yeah, maybe people like that, but I would say the average person is, like, happy with three solid friends. Three solid friends is a great number.

Bree (30:06)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (30:07)

Five solid friends. Great number.

Bree (30:09)

Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

Ali Stuckey (30:10)

So I don't. I don't think that this is true. I actually think. I think the truth is, is that there's probably a significant number of Americans who don't have any friends.

Bree (30:21)

Mm.

Ali Stuckey (30:22)

And I've seen that. I've seen people talk about that on Instagram before, especially moms. But it's probably true for a lot of adults. I think of a lot of adults after they leave college. And you're not interacting with people all of the time. Like, you just. You don't have friends anymore.

Bree (30:40)

Yeah. And it's really hard to make friends once you're. Well, I mean, mid-20s on, honestly, but, like, once you're in your 30s, it's hard to make friends. People are kind of established at that point. I also don't think anyone who has three solid friends, like, really close friends, needs a chatbot to be their friend.

Ali Stuckey (31:01)

No.

Bree (31:01)

Why would you even be seeking that out? You already have the three friends.

Ali Stuckey (31:05)

Yeah.

Bree (31:05)

What if you're like, no, I need seven, and some of them need to be AI. I don't understand that at all.

Ali Stuckey (31:10)

No, no. I honestly think if someone has one solid friend or a spouse, because I. I think it's also can be difficult for married people to have, like, really close friends. Especially if you want couple friends, then it's like you gotta find two people at the same time that you like. It's like, you can't be like, oh, I like the wife over here and the husband over here. I'm just gonna have them over. You can't do that. You gotta settle. I mean, sometimes. So I, I. Yeah. I just don't believe that people who have genuine connection in their life. I think this is only appealing to those who, very sadly, and I have so much compassion for this, feel like they have no one who really knows them. And it's not like your parents. Once you're an adult, your parents aren't enough and maybe your sibling's not enough who really want a friend. I think that's the much bigger problem here. There's this book called Bowling Alone, and it came out a long time ago, but it talked about just our lack of connection with our neighbors and with our communities, lack of community groups and just, like, real connection. Everyone's busier. And that was a while ago, I think. It's even worse now. And I think it is true. Like, we do have friends and we go to church and we have good friends. Like, I have really good friends. And I'm. I'm very grateful for that. And both my husband and I do, but it's like, I don't know. There were definitely seasons and years of struggle. My parents, they are like, what are you talking about? Is the easiest thing in the world to make friends. When we were young, we just had our new married Sunday school class and that was it. And those are still some of their best friends 30 plus years later. But I talked to so many people today who, they're plugged into church, maybe they have a job, they are joining all these groups, and they still feel like they don't have good friends. And there is also this problem. I've seen this talked about on X. A lot of, like, a couple will be like, I feel like I've done everything. I've reached out to all these people at church. I've had these people over, and they just don't reciprocate. They just. They don't reach out to me. I'm only ever reaching out to them. I don't know. I don't know how to solve that problem. I don't know if in the, like, in your world, Bri, like, if you also feel like that, do you feel like it's hard to make friends? And do you feel like there's this problem of, like, you put yourself out there to try to make a friend and then the other person doesn't reciprocate and it just seems harder than it used to be to have that community and connection.

Bree (33:43)

Yeah, for sure. And I haven't experienced it from, like, the married side of it. I imagine what you're saying about trying to find two people is hard, but from, like, the single side of it, it's also difficult once you're, like, late 20s and on, because that kind of cuts out a lot of people in your life stage. And. Yeah, I found that as well when I moved to a new place that it's, you know, some people are more established than others. Some people have a need for deeper friendships than others. And so it's just. It's so much harder than when you're in college and everyone's on the same foot and you just all want to be friends with each other.

Ali Stuckey (34:21)

Yeah.

Bree (34:22)

So, yeah.

Ali Stuckey (34:23)

Yeah.

Bree (34:24)

Hard out here.

Ali Stuckey (34:25)

Yeah. So I. I mean, I sympathize with the desire to have friends, but I. And I don't know exactly how to fix it. I think all of us can do a better job. Like, I realized the other day that there is a situation in which I didn't. I was the one not reciprocating. And it. It's not because it was like, oh, I don't like that person. I don't want to hear. It wasn't that at all. It was just like, oh, I realized, oh, it's been a few months. And I never, you know, I never reciprocated. I. I've never been the one to extend the invitation. And I did remedy that. But maybe it's all of us being more reciprocal and, like, giving friendships that we thought, oh, that person isn't exactly who I would want to be friends with. Maybe it's like giving people another chance.

Bree (35:08)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (35:09)

And letting them into your life. Because I think also in college you could be more selective. You're like, well, I'm not going to hang out with that person in that group over there because I don't have anything in common. And I'm just going to hang out with these people who I have everything in common with. That's a lot harder to do in everyday life.

Bree (35:25)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (35:26)

So. Yeah. So lessons to be learned. But I don't think that AI is the answer to that, because I just want to remind you, AI is not real. It's not real. It's not a person made in the image of God. They don't have a soul. They don't care about you. They're not going to be at your funeral. And you would be surprised if you've never talked to AI, how human like they are. And again, I think children can be especially vulnerable to this. They're not real friendships. And I do think it's time someone might say, well, if you don't have a friend, like, maybe this can help someone. Maybe it can give them connection. Maybe it could pull them back from the brink of suicide because they finally feel like they have a connection with someone. No, I'm telling you, no, it's not a replacement. Actually. I think it would make someone, once they kind of wake up and realize, I think, that I'm talking to this person this whole time, and they are literally not real. It makes them feel worse than it did before. No, get off your phone, get off the chatbot app, whatever it is, and go out and join some kind of community. Start working out. I don't care if you never worked out. Go to a CrossFit gym or something. Start going to church for that community there. I'm not Saying that it's easy because it's not. I have learned that it's not easy. But we are made for human connection. Man cannot. It was not good for man to be alone. We read that in the very beginning. And of course that's a passage about marriage. But it's true in general. Like we. Because we are made in God's image and God is three in one. He is Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and he is perpetually in communion with himself. We can see through that example. We can see in the establishment of the early church. We can see in the Old Testament that we are made to depend on one another. And AI is not included in that. And it doesn't surprise me at all that these technocrats believe that eventually robots can and will take away or replace human connection. It'll just never happen. You can't outsmart God. You can't. And science is always trying to catch up to God. Psychology, always trying to catch up to God. Technology always trying to catch up to God. But we also remember in the Tower of Babel that trying to build our own empire or tower that reaches up to the heavens so we can be like God, so we can take the glory of God, it actually ends up creating chaos. And I think that is what is going to happen here. So just beware and be wise, Christian. All right, now I. Well, should we talk about Beyonce? Do you want to talk about Beyonce? I feel like you want to talk about Beyonce.

Bree (38:05)

We don't have to talk about Beyonce.

Ali Stuckey (38:07)

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Bree (39:49)

Okay.

Ali Stuckey (39:49)

I know nothing.

Bree (39:50)

She. She started her, her Cowboy Carter tour.

Ali Stuckey (39:55)

Okay.

Bree (39:56)

World tour last week. And yeah, people. That's. People are talking about it. Katy Perry also started her tour, so lots of pop girlies starting their tours.

Ali Stuckey (40:09)

Okay. That video that I'm seeing of Katy Perry going around of her dancing, is that real?

Bree (40:20)

It is real.

Ali Stuckey (40:21)

It. Okay.

Bree (40:22)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (40:23)

Because that's not the only ones at concerts where like nothing is happening and music is playing and no one's even doing a choreographed dance. You're just kind of being silly on stage. I didn't know.

Bree (40:33)

I mean, I haven't seen her whole show. Maybe there's a purpose for it. But yeah, the. I mean, she's kind of known for being like, weird.

Ali Stuckey (40:40)

Yeah.

Bree (40:40)

You know, so I think it's on brand. But yeah, some of the clips are pretty rough. I kind of feel bad for her, but.

Ali Stuckey (40:46)

Okay.

Bree (40:47)

But yeah, Beyonce started hers tour too, and it's gotten like much more high praise than, than Katy Perry's. But it started. She started it by singing the national.

Ali Stuckey (40:59)

So it's heavily country themed.

Bree (41:01)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (41:02)

Because she did win best country album.

Bree (41:05)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (41:06)

Beyonce Knowles did.

Bree (41:07)

Yeah. At the Grammys. Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (41:09)

Okay. And so she surprised audiences at her. On her tour on. At a concert by performing the Star Spangled Banner as part of her set list. Right. Okay.

Bree (41:23)

Part of it.

Ali Stuckey (41:23)

Place. Let's play some of it. Salt one.

Bree (41:32)

Through the.

Ali Stuckey (41:44)

Okay. Flashing behind her national anthem is the message on the screen, never ask permission for something that already belongs to you. Okay. This is supposedly meant to reflect the Taurus themes of reclamation, empowerment, and unapologetic ownership, especially as a black woman in spaces like country music. Is that, is that a quote from something?

Bree (42:09)

Not that I know of. That's just the messaging that she's. That she's putting across.

Ali Stuckey (42:14)

Okay. So we know that she's not like a patriotic American. Okay. We know that she hates conservative values that she obviously campaigned With Kamala Harris. And I'm sorry, if you have truly patriotic values, you are not gonna support Kamala Harris. You're just not. And so, like, what exactly is going on here?

Bree (42:37)

Well, the issue, I think, is that she sings the national anthem. Some people on X were like, I can't believe she would do that. They thought it was a patriotic thing because she's singing country music kind of. But really what it was was she cut off the national anthem partway through and started singing her song freedom, which is known as a BLM anthem. It's with Kendrick Lamar. So she leads into that with the Star Spangled Banner. And so that is meant to be symbolic of, you know, this isn't actually patriotic. We have work to do.

Ali Stuckey (43:13)

Okay, so here is SAT two. Okay. So I saw on X that it's supposed to be a critique. It's supposed to be a critique of America, that in order really for us to be patriotic Americans or for America to be what she's supposed to be, we need more rights. And America is turning into this authoritarian place, of course, under Trump, and we as black people have been trampled upon. And so here I am, oppressed Beyonce. Because people don't know this, but Beyonce is very oppressed. Yes. She has no rights. No free speech rights. She has no rights at all.

Bree (44:13)

Free Beyonce.

Ali Stuckey (44:14)

Poor Beyonce. And so that's supposed to be her critique. Freedom, freedom, I can't move Freedom, cut me loose Freedom, freedom, where are you? Because I need freedom, too I break chains all by myself Won't let my freedom rot in hell hey, I'm a keep running Because a winner don't quit on themselves. Okay? So, yeah, I saw a lot of people talking about how this is, like, debating whether the lyrics were good. I saw you say, you need to say it. You need to own it. What you're. What you're about to say.

Bree (44:50)

You said, nobody be mean to me Comments. I said, I stand by this. Okay? It just bothers me when Taylor Swift and Beyonce get the same amount of praise for their songwriting. When Beyonce uses, like, this album, that one country artist or country album of the year, I think, had, like, 114 writers total on the whole album. Taylor Swift's album that was nominated had three, so I. And she has written an entire album by herself, no one else credited. So I just think, you know, Beyonce's a really good performer. She's a great singer. She's talented. But Taylor Swift is a better songwriter, and she's more talented artistically in that way. And I am sick of people Saying otherwise.

Ali Stuckey (45:41)

Well, that I. I don't like that is just obvious that she's a better lyricist.

Bree (45:47)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (45:47)

Okay. You can argue what makes a good artist and what makes Beyonce a good artist, if you want to. Maybe there is an argument to be had there. But I don't think anyone, whether you hate Taylor Swift or not, can argue that she's not a good lyricist. It's clever. Like, her lyrics are clever, and sometimes they're cheesy. Some songs, I think, are more clever than others, but they're. I mean, they're original and they're good, and they're very her. They're always, like, on brand.

Bree (46:18)

Yeah, I.

Ali Stuckey (46:19)

There are people in Texas ain't no hold'em, so don't be a B word. That's all I know. Yeah, that's all. I take it to the floor.

Bree (46:29)

That's the other thing. There are songs that are, like, just the dumbest lyrics that don't make any sense. That's like 16 writers. I'm like, what were you all doing? What were you all doing in the room together? So that's why. And people do argue that she is better in every way, that Beyonce's better in every way. And I just don't think that's fair at all. But if you need 16 writers to write your song that you then go perform beautifully, that's fine. I think that's still artistic. She's a singer and a performer, and she's good at it. You know, it's just different.

Ali Stuckey (47:05)

Yeah. I don't think anyone is arguing that Beyonce, like, has no talent. Right?

Bree (47:09)

Yeah. Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (47:10)

She's obviously beautiful, talented, and we can concede, Bri, she's a better dancer than Taylor Swift. Okay. Oh, Bri, Bri, you have. You have ts. Tsd.

Bree (47:27)

Tsd.

Ali Stuckey (47:29)

Taylor Swift. Delulu, if you don't. I mean, Beyonce is legitimately, I think. I mean, I'm not an expert dancer, but is she not one of the best?

Bree (47:41)

She's good.

Ali Stuckey (47:42)

Swift is bad. She's bad at dancing.

Bree (47:45)

She is not. She's not the strongest dancer. She's not the strongest dancer. She's worked really hard to get better, though, I will say.

Ali Stuckey (47:52)

How do you know that?

Bree (47:53)

Because I've seen her career, and when she was younger, she was awful. And she wasn't that good of a singer either. She's gotten so much better.

Ali Stuckey (48:01)

I do think that she's gotten to be a better singer, for sure. I mean, I think one of, like, the most difficult things to watch was the Shake it off music video. I just feel like, you have to know your strengths.

Bree (48:14)

But that. That's sort of tongue in cheek, though.

Ali Stuckey (48:17)

Supposed to be.

Bree (48:18)

Yeah, she's supposed to be kind of, like, awkward in that, but.

Ali Stuckey (48:21)

Yeah.

Bree (48:21)

I mean, there were clips going around during her tour of like, really awkward dance moments. And you. Yes. Yeah, she's a little bit awkward. I think that's part of the charm.

Ali Stuckey (48:30)

Part of the Persona.

Bree (48:32)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (48:33)

How are her and T rav, by the way?

Bree (48:35)

We don't know. She's been silent.

Ali Stuckey (48:38)

Yeah.

Bree (48:38)

Yeah. She hasn't done anything really.

Ali Stuckey (48:42)

Is that purposeful? That's almost been, like, since the super bowl, right?

Bree (48:45)

I think so. Yeah. I think that this is purposeful because I think she goes away, like, in cycles. I think she knew people were seeing too much of her and were getting annoyed by her being around all the time. And I think that's true. People were getting annoyed because just her tour was everywhere. She's always at football games. She was everywhere. And I think she knows publicity wise.

Ali Stuckey (49:05)

Maybe she just doesn't want to.

Bree (49:07)

That too. It could just be she's happy and she wants to be private for a while. But I think it's. I think it's twofold. I think it's also smart to just kind of go away for a little while.

Ali Stuckey (49:16)

Yeah.

Bree (49:16)

Come back fresh and be number one again. Which I'm sure is what would be.

Ali Stuckey (49:20)

A good time to talk about my conspiracy theory about Taylor Swift and the Kelsey's.

Bree (49:25)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (49:26)

Because. Okay. It's okay if we want to take the uncharitable reading that it's very strategic that she's out of the public eye right now and that her and Travis are out of the public eye. What would be amazing if, like, the first time she comes back, she's, like, engaged or something or already married.

Bree (49:42)

People are saying she's pregnant.

Ali Stuckey (49:44)

Oh, my gosh. That'd be great. I would be so happy for her. Okay. I have wondered if the Kelsey's and the popularity of the Kelsey's and Taylor Swift are a strategy to get the normies to become Democrat again. You know, because they lost a lot of the normie votes because Kamala Harris is weird and Tim Walls was weird and they were mean. Okay, not just weird. They were mean. And I know they called the other side mean and weird, but it was projection. Both Kamala Harris and Tim Walls were mean and weird and they lost a lot of the normie vote. And right now it's kind of frat to be Republican and you can't lose all of the frat bros and their girlfriends you can lose some of them. You can't lose all of them. As the Democrat Party and the Democrat Party thought they were going to be able to just use abortion to get all the girlies to vote Democrat. But it didn't entirely work. Somewhat did, but not entirely. So I just wonder if Taylor Swift and the Kelsey's, because they're very normal and I think the Kelsey's are very conservative coded. They look in, seem conservative, but I don't think she. I don't think. What's the.

Bree (50:56)

What's Kylie.

Ali Stuckey (50:57)

Kylie. I don't think she is conservative. Like, I don't know that she's progressive, but, like, I saw that she just had Chelsea Handler.

Bree (51:04)

Yeah. And I think also they did make a statement. I think when the Harrison Butker thing happened, I think they were pretty clear they didn't agree with what he was saying.

Ali Stuckey (51:13)

Yeah. Which dumb. Yeah. If you're gonna make a statement about it, that means you, like, really feel that way. So I just wonder if they are a psyop to get the girlies back to the Democratic Party or to get just the normies back to the Democratic Party.

Bree (51:31)

Yeah. I think they'd have to do the heavy lifting with the guys because, you know, the. The girls who like Taylor Swift are already there. But yeah, it's like football frat bros that they need back for sure.

Ali Stuckey (51:43)

I don't know. Like, I think that there are a lot of people, a lot of women who like, watch, call her daddy and who are. They're not related to Bells. Okay. But they vote Trump because they just. They're just more Republican or their boyfriends are.

Bree (52:01)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (52:02)

And they just vote Trump. And I think those people have to be. And it's like, nerdy to have your pronouns now. And it's just, like, embarrassing to be associated with that. And so I think that there's going to be a wing, a growing wing of the Democratic Party that ignores the trans thing and is like just more normal, cool Democrats. Yeah, normal.

Bree (52:26)

I'm not a regular Democrat. I'm a cool Democrat.

Ali Stuckey (52:28)

But thankfully, like, they. Most Democrats can't. Can't not be insane. Like aoc. I think she's running Gavin Newsom, Pete Buddha Judge. Those are all the people doing their podcast tours right now. What's with Pete Buttigieg coming across as cool with Andrew Schultz? Yeah, that's a thing.

Bree (52:49)

Yeah.

Ali Stuckey (52:49)

These people are going through a brand overhaul. And I feel like there's that, you know, pro wrestler meme where it's like, you've got a wrestler out here. But then you've got one, like, sneaking up behind him, and it's like the meme is like, the text would be on the, like, wrestler up here who doesn't know this guy's behind him. Like, me having a good day. And then it's like, back here, my period, like, sneak it up. You never know. Okay? But that's what all these Democrats are. It's like aoc, P, Buddha, Judge, whatever. They're like, I'm going to be cool. Or Gavin Newsom, I'm going to be cool. Run for the Democrat, you know, nomination. And then you've got, like, Richard Levine back here. You've got, like, the. The man pretending to be a woman who is about to, like, ruin your campaign. That's the problem with the Democrats. They cannot let that issue go. All right, before we head out, let me tell you about subscribing to Blaze tv. You should subscribe to Blaze TV because you get all of our behind the paywall content. And it's awesome. It's stuff that you don't get to see just on YouTube for free. It's just for our Blaze TV community. It protects us. For example, Apple did not upload our Covid podcast yesterday because they still have all of these Covid flags that censor episodes. And so we had to, like, finagle the description and all that just for Apple to upload our podcast. And so we never know what's going to happen. We can get kicked off all of these platforms, and that's why we have Blaze tv. We not only give you subscriber exclusive content, but it also protects us and makes sure that you can get access to all of our content. Also, we have Nicole Shanahan now. She is awesome. Go watch her. Listen to my episode with her if you haven't already. But she's got a new show. Back to the people on Blaze TV. Go to YouTube.com nicole-shanahan all right, that's all we've got time for. We will be back here on Monday.