Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey – Episode 1273

Title: Autism Fraud, Islamic Corruption & a Crucial Tennessee Election
Date: December 1, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Allie Beth Stuckey offers a spirited, in-depth critique of how empathy is weaponized in American culture and politics, especially from a Christian conservative perspective. She addresses the ongoing backlash to her book Toxic Empathy, explores recent events involving violence linked to Afghan migrants, uncovers Somali-related welfare fraud in Minnesota, and previews the critical upcoming Tennessee election. Throughout, Allie weaves biblical encouragement with cultural commentary, encouraging Christians to uphold truth over sentimental empathy, and to prioritize American interests in political decision-making.

Key Discussion Points

1. God’s Sovereignty Amid Cultural Turmoil

Timestamp: 03:30

• Allie begins by reassuring listeners that, despite dark news cycles, God's eternal plan of redemption is moving forward.
• Emphasizes the importance for Christians and especially moms to “push back against the darkness” and remind themselves that God “works all things together for good.”
• Quote:

  "Though the wrong seems oft so strong, He is the ruler yet." — Allie quoting her favorite hymn (04:20)

• Allie advises Christians to confront lies with truth even when “destruction sounds good” and “danger... actually looks like empathy” (07:00).

2. The Weaponization of Empathy and Backlash to ‘Toxic Empathy’

Timestamp: 08:15

• Reflects on the rising media anger over her book, Toxic Empathy, which critiques how compassion is used to advance harmful progressive policies.
• Cites Paul Bloom's secular critique of empathy (Against Empathy, 2016).
• Points out the manipulation of Christian compassion to further causes that “are really bad for... the very people the media claims to want to help” (11:00).
• Quote:

  “Empathy, hoisted up as the highest virtue—or even a virtue at all—gets us into a really big mess.” (14:30)

• Cites 1 Corinthians 13:6 and 1 John 4:8: Genuine Christian love must be bound to truth, not sentimental lies.
• Allie criticizes the notion that “putting empathy first is a vulnerability,” noting it makes Christians “vulnerable to lies, to stupidity, because you think you are supporting these things in the name of love” (15:45).

Notable Moment:

• Allie humorously responds to a hit piece by Amanda at Salon, which accuses her of “weaponizing her gender to sell the idea of a cold-hearted Jesus” (18:52).
• Responds to satire/critique about dinosaurs and her podcast set’s aesthetic.

  “Dinosaurs are our mascot here at Relatable because we believe in them so much... I believe in them more than I believe in Santa Claus saying ‘ho ho ho’.” (20:10)

• Introduces insider joke “Pastel Hate Influencer” and corrects the record:

  “Anyone who knows me knows that I am an autumn. I do not wear pastels.” (22:15)

3. Islamic Corruption, Crime, and the Dangers of Poor Vetting

Timestamp: 36:45

• Outlines a shocking recent crime: Afghan national in DC shot two West Virginia National Guard soldiers; Allie calls for justice and for listeners to pray for victims (37:50).
• Critiques the policy failures behind this tragedy. Cites mismanagement of Operation Allies Welcome (2021 Afghan evacuees), including poor vetting, data errors, and evidence of refugees later appearing on terror watch lists (43:18).
• Emphasizes trade-offs in empathy-driven immigration policies:

  “Every policy... is a trade-off. You're asking: What are the benefits? What are the risks? Who is this harming? Who is this helping?” (49:18)

• Cites additional Afghan evacuee crimes, calling them “absolutely preventable” because “these people aren’t supposed to be here” (51:50).
• Argues that focusing on only one side of the “moral equation” diminishes reality and morality:

  “You have so much empathy for the person ‘born in the wrong body’ that you ignore the rights and the privacy of girls and women... That’s the problem.” (53:45)

4. Hypocrisy in Media Coverage and Policy

Timestamp: 55:50

• Points out that under Democrat presidencies, media downplays immigration enforcement/failures compared to intense spotlight under Trump.
• Encourages measured, biblically-informed compassion that does not blind one to facts or the safety of Americans:

  “God gave you a brain. God gave you a mind to think.” (57:50)

• Distinguishes between loving immigrants as individuals and supporting unvetted, large-scale influxes—proposing thorough vetting and, in some cases, temporary bans (60:40).
• Quotes Trump’s statement calling for review and possible removal of Afghan parolees, praising the focus on American interests:

  “You put the safety and security of your people first, not because you hate people from other countries, but because you love people in your country.” (63:55)

5. Somali Corruption and Welfare Fraud in Minnesota

Timestamp: 68:20

• Summarizes investigative reports by Chris Rufo and City Journal uncovering billions stolen in Minnesota welfare fraud by Somali nonprofit networks.
• Details:
  • Housing Stabilization Services exploded from $2.6M to $104M/year, mostly fraud (69:30).
  • Feeding Our Future: Nonprofits faked thousands of children fed daily, used funds for luxury goods, overseas property (70:10).
  • Autism fraud ring: Somali parents paid to enroll kids, many undiagnosed, in costly therapy; claims leapt from $3M (2018) to $399M (2023) (71:15).
• Criticizes media and political response which only emphasizes “not demonizing entire communities” (72:36) rather than addressing the actual scope and cost of corruption.
• Notes misplaced prioritization in spending, empathy, and coverage.

Notable Exchange:

• Quote from Governor Tim Walz:

  “But to demonize an entire community on the actions of a few, it's lazy.” (72:26)

• Allie’s rebuttal:

  “It’s not a few. It’s not a few. ...Diversity is not a strength in and of itself. It can be a strength if you are unified by something deeper than skin color and nationality, but if that’s the only thing you have, that leads to chaos.” (72:36)

6. Preview: Key Tennessee Election

Timestamp: 75:00

• Briefly introduces the importance of an upcoming election in Tennessee’s 7th District as emblematic of national stakes over issues like empathy-led progressivism versus principled policy.
• (Note: Detailed breakdown of this segment was not included in the provided transcript.)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Empathy vs. Christian Love:

  “You can feel empathy for them and support lies, but you can’t truly love them. Christians aren’t just called to empathy; we are called to love no matter how we feel about someone.” (16:20)

• Regarding Progressive Media Attacks:

  “She wants you to think that this feminine aesthetic is a cover for something nefarious. ...But it’s just genuine. I really am just a wife and a mom trying to navigate the craziness of this world.” (25:15)

• On Preventable Crimes:

  “Crimes committed by people who should not be here in the first place—that is absolutely preventable. Those are preventable assault cases, preventable murder, preventable child rapes. And we are allowing them in the name of ‘empathy.’” (51:15)

• On Welfare State Corruption:

  “Ask what does the dollar do, not what is it intended to do. Look at the outcome of the program, not the stated intention.” (70:45)

• On Diversity and Unity:

  “Diversity is not a strength in and of itself. It can be a strength if you are unified by something much deeper than skin color and nationality... But if you only have diversity, that leads to chaos.” (72:36)

Timeline of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Event | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:30 | Encouragement: God’s sovereignty, Christian hope | | 08:15 | Reaction to ongoing backlash to Toxic Empathy; empathy as a weapon | | 14:30 | Empathy hoisted as highest virtue—problems from Christian view | | 18:52 | Salon hit-piece: responding with humor and self-awareness | | 36:45 | Afghan national attacks West Virginia National Guard soldiers | | 43:18 | Failure of vetting/Afghan evacuee program; weighing compassion vs. safety | | 49:18 | Emotional trade-offs in immigration policy | | 53:45 | Dangers and immoral “side effects” of uncritical empathy | | 55:50 | Media hypocrisy and Christian discernment on immigration/issues | | 68:20 | Somali nonprofit welfare/autism fraud in Minnesota | | 72:26 | Governor Walz’s defense; Allie’s critique of “diversity for diversity’s sake” | | 75:00 | Teaser: Tennessee 7th District election preview |

Tone and Approach

• Upbeat, warm, direct, and unapologetic: Allie communicates as a faith-driven mom and commentator, regularly infusing biblical references, humor, and sarcasm in responding to critics.
• Engaged with critics/culture: Responds at length to negative media coverage by secular outlets, lampooning misconceptions about her beliefs and aesthetic.
• Challenging and exhortative: Urges listeners to love their neighbors biblically and think critically rather than being guilted into supporting policies in the name of empathy.
• Prayerful and hopeful: Calls for prayer for both enemies and victims, insisting on the possibility of changed hearts and a better future.

Summary

Allie Beth Stuckey's episode tackles how empathy, manipulated through the media and political policies, drives destructive cultural change—from immigration disasters to epic welfare fraud. By shining a light on hostile media narratives and giving specific examples of preventable crime and corruption, she encourages her listeners to stand firm in biblical truth, prioritize real love over sentimental empathy, and actively engage in political action like the coming Tennessee election. The episode is a call for discernment, confident citizenship, and bold proclamation of Christian values in a turbulent age.