Podcast Summary: Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Episode 1287 | Why Your Aunt Hates ICE: A Spiritual Analysis of Liberal Women
Date: January 12, 2026
Host: Allie Beth Stuckey, Blaze Podcast Network

Episode Overview

Allie Beth Stuckey delivers an in-depth, Christian conservative analysis of the recent fatal shooting of anti-ICE activist Renee Good, exploring the broader spiritual state of progressive women in America. Using Renee's story as a focal point, Stuckey examines how empathy, motherhood instincts, and "toxic empathy" drive political behavior among liberal women, especially in the context of immigration and law enforcement. The episode also contrasts prevailing media narratives with biblical and logical perspectives on justice, sovereignty, and social activism.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Grounding Listeners in Christian Hope

(02:20–05:40)

• Allie opens with a spiritual reflection, reminding listeners of God’s sovereignty during troubling times:
  • “God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a hitch. Our responsibility is only to do the next right thing in faith, with excellence, and for the glory of God.” (A, 04:35)
• She draws encouragement from Psalm 37 and emphasizes that apparent victories for "evildoers" are temporary.

2. Community Recap & Audience Engagement

(05:41–10:50)

• Allie celebrates the generosity of her audience, sharing stories of supporting pregnancy centers by fulfilling Amazon wish lists.
• She recounts how small acts of Christian obedience can lead to big, unseen impacts, referencing an Amazon driver’s conversion story.

3. Case Study: Renee Good’s Shooting

(10:51–15:26)

• Summary of the event: Renee Good, an anti-ICE activist, was shot after reportedly using her car to impede ICE agents’ work during a protest in Minneapolis.
• Allie describes the liberal/progressive narrative, urging conservatives to understand why their friends and relatives may react with outrage:
  • “If you believed everything that I just said to be absolutely true, you would be outraged as well. … It’s not really about facts. It is about a larger narrative.” (A, 14:50)
• Notable quote (on media narratives):
  • “These headlines are designed to trigger your empathy and to trigger it in one direction only — in Renee’s.” (A, 15:26)

4. Counter-Narrative: The ICE Agent's Perspective

(15:27–23:50)

• Allie narrates the event through the eyes of Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent, highlighting the challenges and dangers ICE officers face in enforcing the law, especially against serious criminals.
• She points to the dangers posed to officers by activist tactics, noting how officers often face resistance from both the public and politicians:
  • “The protesters who use their cars are some of the most dangerous. These vehicles weigh thousands of pounds and even slow-moving cars can cause life-altering injuries and death.” (A, 17:18)
• Allie underscores that public discourse should focus on truth and facts, not just empathy for one party.

5. What Actually Happened: A Closer Look at the Incident

(23:51–33:26)

• Details Renee Good’s activist background, contradicting the narrative that she was an innocent bystander.
• Renee was involved with ICE Watch, trained in protest tactics, and had been active on social media with progressive causes.
• Presents both tragedy of her death (“her life did matter … I really am sad for her children.” (A, 29:25)) and responsibility of law enforcement to enforce laws, including deportation of serious offenders.

6. The Spiritual State of Progressive/Liberal Women

(33:27–39:39)

• Allie analyzes why liberal women are often at the forefront of social justice activism, attributing it to misplaced or redirected mothering and nurturing instincts.
  • “Instead of pouring your heart and your energy and your natural nurturing and protective nature into children … you pour your mothering instincts into pets or plants or politics or your profession.” (A, 36:20)
• Presents data on political, social, and religious demographics of white women, noting that while only 28% are liberal, this group is highly mobilized and influential in leftwing politics.

7. The Concept of Toxic Empathy

(39:40–45:10)

• Cites her own book, Toxic Empathy, and Paul Bloom’s Against Empathy, to argue that unchecked empathy can lead to moral inconsistency and cruelty toward perceived "oppressors."
• Quote from Brett Weinstein (via Joe Rogan) on the transference of mothering instincts to causes:
  • “What people do is they take the energy, you know, the seriousness of purpose that would ordinarily be directed into managing a marriage and the role of being a parent. And they put it into something … and they defend them like a mother defending her child. That's a very powerful force.” (B, 39:05)
• Allie asserts that empathy, without grounding in biblical truth, is exploitable and leads to disproportionate passion and, at times, instability.

8. Empathy, Mental Health, and Female Political Activism

(45:11–51:35)

• Shares statistics on high antidepressant use among white women, suggesting a link to inner discord triggered by “misplaced mothering.”
• Notes content creators like Brene Brown, Rachel Hollis, and Glennon Doyle who promote self-prioritization, which Allie argues ultimately leads women away from fulfillment and deepens spiritual crisis.

9. Immigration, Law, and Biblical Order

(51:36–56:22)

• Draws on her book and biblical reasoning to frame immigration enforcement as a moral and God-ordained duty.
• Criticizes the double standard of social justice outrage, citing non-controversy over certain tragedies involving white victims or Democratic administrations.
• Quote:
  • “A country's legitimacy is necessary to enact and enforce laws … If it has no laws, chaos ensues, rights are lost and citizenship means nothing. … It's not only our right to do so, it is also our responsibility.” (A, 54:20)

10. Media, Narrative, and Inconsistent Standards

(56:23–01:06:30)

• Compares the mainstream coverage and public outrage of the Renee Good case to similar or even graver incidents that did not receive comparable attention (e.g., Justine Damond case).
  • “Ask yourself, if this had been an ICE agent who killed a liberal woman, or if this had been a white police officer who killed a black man, would you know his name? Minneapolis would have burned.” (A, 01:02:50)
• Argues that progressive outrage is reactive, “trendy,” and not rooted in impartial justice.

11. Societal Consequences of Empathy Politics

(01:06:31–01:13:20)

• Shares examples of violence resulting from lax law enforcement and DEI-inspired “light” sentencing:
  • “I am so tired of sacrificing the best people in our country to the worst people in our country, all because we don't have the will to do what is right.” (A, 01:11:05)
• Advocates for stricter justice, including support for the death penalty (“say what you will about the death penalty, but it has the lowest recidivism rate of any form of punishment.” (A quoting Sowell, 01:12:50))

Memorable Quotes

• On God’s sovereignty:

  • “He is completely sovereign over it and his victory is sure. … That is where our joy has to come from, where our hope comes from, where steadiness derives from.” (A, 03:30)

• On empathy-driven activism:

  • “Women who are already natural nurturers … and naturally empathetic are going to be radicalized. And that is why some of the cruelest people that you talk to are the most empathetic social justice activists.” (A, 38:23)

• On inconsistent outrage:

  • “I'm sorry, if I don't believe your sincerity when you're posting about this. Like, if you don't have anything to say about the slaughter of babies inside the womb every day … I just question how much you really care about justice.” (A, 01:05:24)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening Christian Reflection: 02:20–05:40
• Pregnancy Center Generosity Story: 05:41–10:50
• Liberal Perspective on Renee Good & Empathy: 10:51–15:26
• ICE Agent Perspective: 15:27–23:50
• Event Details & Activist Background: 23:51–33:26
• Profile of Progressive Women & Spiritual Analysis: 33:27–39:39
• Toxic Empathy Discussion: 39:40–45:10
• Empathy, Mental Health, and Content Influencers: 45:11–51:35
• Immigration Law/Biblical Order: 51:36–56:22
• Media Narratives & Justine Damond Story: 56:23–01:06:30
• Social Consequences & Justice Advocacy: 01:06:31–01:13:20

Podcast Tone

Conversational yet assertive, blending biblical conviction with commentary on current events and pop culture. Allie frequently appeals to her audience’s shared values and experiences as Christian conservatives, often using anecdotes and narrative-driven analysis.

Conclusion

Allie Beth Stuckey urges her audience to pursue order, justice, and spirited but factual engagement with culture and politics, warning against the pitfalls of unchecked empathy and “trendy” activism. She frames the tragic story of Renee Good as a spiritual cautionary tale, calling Christians—especially women—to channel their nurturing instincts toward true service and biblical justice rather than politicized causes.