Podcast Summary: Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Episode 1291 | Warning to Churches: Here’s What’s Coming Your Way

Date: January 21, 2026
Host: Allie Beth Stuckey, Blaze Podcast Network

Episode Overview

In this impassioned and detail-rich episode, Allie Beth Stuckey addresses recent events involving protests led by Black Lives Matter and associated activists at a Minnesota church. She critically examines the underlying motives, the progressive ideology driving these actions, and the broader implications for churches, Christians, and American society. The episode also scrutinizes media coverage—especially Don Lemon's involvement—and rebuts progressive Christian viewpoints publicized by figures like James Talarico and Russell Moore.

Key Themes and Topics

1. Divine Sovereignty in Troubled Times (01:10–04:06)

• Allie opens the episode by reaffirming Christian hope in God's unshakeable plan, laying spiritual context for the difficult news ahead.
• Quote: "God's eternal plan of redemption is going off without a hitch. ... Jesus is king. In one day, that will be manifested completely and totally." (01:26–02:14)

2. Reporting on the Minnesota Church Protest (04:06–20:40)

• Incident Summary: Black Lives Matter and allied groups stormed City’s Church in St. Paul, Minnesota, disrupting worship and intimidating congregants, including children and the elderly.
• The church’s pastor allegedly works with ICE, making the congregation a target.
• Allie stands in support of the pastor and highlights the emotional impact through a vivid description of a father comforting his crying son during the chaos.
• Quote: "If you are on the side of terrorizing churchgoers, you're on the wrong side." (04:03)
• Critique of progressivism: Allie connects these incidents to a broader historical pattern of tyranny and public shaming, warning that this is what progressive power entails.
• Notable moment: Play-by-play of agitators storming the service, including one man berating "comfortable white people... doing nothing for your Latino and Somali brothers and sisters." (08:34–08:48)

3. Agitators and Their Tactics (07:43–10:08)

• Features audio of agitators berating church members, invoking slogans like "hands up, don't shoot,"—which Allie calls out as propaganda, debunked even by the Obama DOJ.
• Explains one agitator’s double standard: respectful visits to a local Somali mosque while violently protesting in a Christian church.

4. Community and Congregational Response (16:12–20:05)

• Congregants responded by praying, reading scripture, and singing amidst intimidation.
• Quote: "But the congregation began to pray, read scripture and sing. Eventually we were told to move to another part of the church. ... I keep thinking, Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." (Statement paraphrased from Dustin Grage, 16:54)
• Allie contextualizes fear by citing past progressive violence and media bias in reporting such incidents.

5. Analysis of Progressive Activism (20:42–29:32)

• Discusses how events are used as pretexts ("trigger incidents") for anti-conservative activism.
• Draws historical parallels with 2020 protests, arguing these are orchestrated to weaken America’s foundations and influence political outcomes—especially against Donald Trump and Republicans.
• Explains the funding landscape with George Soros and leftist organizations supporting these protest actions.
• Quote: "It is about intentionally sowing chaos to ultimately weaken America and Western civilization." (20:58)

6. Don Lemon and Media Complicity (31:05–36:59)

• Exposes former CNN anchor Don Lemon’s conflicting accounts: claiming ignorance of the protest while prior videos show he was invited and anticipated it.
  • Quote, Don Lemon: "I have no affiliation to that organization. I didn’t even know they were going to this church until we followed them there." (31:05)
  • Contradiction: Earlier, “They invited folks out. Can’t tell you what’s going to happen but you'll watch it live..." (31:20)
• Lemon’s on-site interactions: claims protest disruptions fall under protected free speech.
  • Quote, Lemon: "It’s uncomfortable and traumatic for the people here. But that’s what protesting is about." (33:20)
• Allie calls out Lemon’s hypocrisy, suggesting he would never do the same in other religious settings, and notes Lemon’s lack of credibility on morality and religion.

7. Legal Repercussions and Investigations (36:59–39:51)

• Reports on possible prosecutions for protest disruptors under federal laws (e.g. FACE Act, Ku Klux Klan Act), as stated by Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dillon.
  • Quote: "A house of worship is not a public forum for your protest... You are on notice." (Paraphrased, 39:31)

8. Context on ICE, Immigration, and Progressive Narratives (39:51–50:53)

• Details criminal records of some immigrants the protests sought to shield (e.g., convicted sex offenders; repeat offenders).
  • Quote, ICE agent: "We’re here to arrest a child sex offender and you guys are out here honking... That’s who you are protecting. Insane." (43:41)
• Dissects viral claims of ICE abuse (e.g., citizen detained in his underwear), providing context and challenging selective outrage compared to similar enforcement under Democratic administrations.
• Urges listeners to critically evaluate viral content and check for missing facts and alternative explanations.

9. Critique of Progressive Christian Leaders: Russell Moore (50:53–1:00:51)

• Rebuts Moore’s article criticizing conservative use of Romans 13 to defend state action, arguing Moore constructs a straw-man argument for rhetorical effect.
  • Quote: “No reading of Romans 13 licenses a deranged lesbian to weaponize a car against a federal officer and leave him with internal injuries.” (Eric Reed, paraphrased, 59:13)
• Points out Moore’s inconsistent application of Romans 13 during COVID-19 (supporting government-mandated worship restrictions but not lethal force for law enforcement).

10. Biblical View of Government and Borders (1:00:51–1:06:24)

• Introduces "Lex Rex" (law is king) — the principle that even rulers are under God’s law and morality.
• Defends national sovereignty and border protection as inherently biblical and compatible with Christian compassion.
  • Quote: "Countries are like families. You wouldn't allow a stranger to come to your home and eat your child's food and sleep in your child's bed... That wouldn't make you a good neighbor; that would make you a bad parent." (1:03:18)

11. Responding to “Progressive Christianity”: James Talarico (1:06:24–1:14:56)

a. Religious Pluralism and Truth Claims (1:06:36–1:07:18)

• Talarico claims all faiths “point to the same truth;” Allie responds with scripture affirming Christian exclusivity.
  • Quote, Talarico: "I believe Christianity points to the truth. I also think other religions of love point to the same truth. ... I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth." (65:37)
  • Allie: "It doesn't work when the tenets of one religion actually oppose the tenets of another religion. It can't all be circling around the same truth." (66:23)

b. On Abortion & Sexuality in Scripture (1:07:48–1:09:41)

• Talarico asserts, "Abortion is never mentioned. Consensual same-sex relationships are never mentioned. ... Jesus never talked about them." (67:17)
• Allie counters with OT/NT references and affirms the continuity of Christian sexual ethics and sanctity of life.

c. “Christian Nationalism” and Liberal Economic Policy (1:09:41–1:12:15)

• Talarico critiques conservatives for opposing the welfare state.
  • Quote, Talarico: "These politicians want a Christian nation unless it means providing health care to the sick or funding food assistance for the hungry..." (69:41)
• Allie calls out selective application of Jesus’ teachings and the difference between voluntary charity and state compulsion.

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On historical parallel:
  "This is what tyranny largely looked like in the 20th century: public shaming, impeding worship, intimidating Christians and political opposition into falling in line..." (06:30)
• On media and Don Lemon:
  "He [Lemon] was totally in on it. He intentionally made sure not to disclose any details of the operation so people wouldn't get tipped off." (39:06)
• On ICE enforcement double standards: "Law enforcement was still detaining people... Are you telling me [Obama] did it only in the kindest and most respectful ways?" (45:51)
• On borders and families:
  "God has entrusted you with stewarding your children... The same is true of countries." (1:03:18)
• On Scripture’s clarity:
  "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever does not obey... will not see life, but wrath... remains on him." (66:42)

Memorable Moments

• The chilling, vivid depiction of frightened congregants, especially children, during the church invasion (04:22–05:45).
• The breakdown of agitators’ shifting moral standards—gentle at mosques, aggressive at churches (10:08).
• The live fact-check of progressive slogans and debunking of accepted narratives, such as “hands up, don’t shoot” (26:35).
• Don Lemon’s caught-on-tape contradiction, undermining trust in mainstream coverage (31:05–33:43).
• Allie’s pointed use of sarcasm, increasing in frequency and intensity as she rebuts what she views as egregious double standards and abuses of both politics and theology.

Summary Table of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Key Points | |---------------|-----------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------| | 01:10–04:06 | Divine Sovereignty | Gospel focus, reassurance in troubled times | | 04:06–10:08 | MN Church Protest—Incident Breakdown | Who, what, why, agitators’ tactics | | 16:12–20:05 | Congregational Response | Prayer, fear, forgiveness, Allie’s analysis | | 20:42–29:32 | BLM Activism & Funding | Soros, Racial Justice Network, manufactured outrage | | 31:05–34:29 | Don Lemon Exposed | Contradictory statements, defense of protest methods | | 36:59–39:51 | Legal Fallout | FACE Act, DOJ investigation, accountability | | 39:51–50:53 | ICE, Immigration, and Outrage | Context, examples, media bias | | 50:53–1:00:51 | Russell Moore & Romans 13 | Rebuttal to strawman arguments, church/state relations | | 1:00:51–1:06:24 | Biblical Order & National Sovereignty | Borders, family metaphor, theological defense | | 1:06:24–1:14:56 | Talarico & Progressive Christianity | Faith pluralism, biblical ethics, welfare state debate |

Tone and Style

Allie combines biblical exposition, personal conviction, cultural commentary, and biting sarcasm. The language is direct, emotionally charged, and unwavering in its conservative Christian perspective.

Conclusion

Allie challenges Christians and churches to be spiritually grounded and intellectually vigilant amid mounting social pressures, orchestrated activism, and progressive reinterpretations of scripture. She underscores the importance of order, discernment, and unyielding faith, especially as cultural hostility toward traditional Christianity intensifies.

Note: Ads, sponsor breaks, and non-content sections were omitted from this summary. For in-depth biblical references and critical cultural analysis, listening to the full episode or reading the mentioned chapters in "Toxic Empathy" is recommended.