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John continues his conversation with Kelly Chase. They discuss how saying "no" can create better opportunities and Kelly's personal faith journey, from being "spiritual but not religious" to developing a deeper relationship with God, and how it has shifted her mindset, habits, and work. In Part 1, Kelly talked about her experience on Netflix's "Love Is Blind," the emotional struggles that came after the show aired, dealing with online hate, people pleasing, anxiety, and learning how to rebuild her life and mindset. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - The connection between pain, purpose, and platform [01:59] - Your story matters, even if you don't think it's big enough [04:24] - Collaboration over competition [05:31] - Using your gifts is an act of service [06:21] - How changing perspective helped John handle losing a big client [07:35] - Helping Kelly to define her ideal client [10:32] - Why saying yes to everything can keep you stuck [13:09] - Kelly's growth and its ripple effect on others [16:10] - Why inspiring people works better than forcing change [17:08] - Impact of Kelly's faith on her life and work [26:53] - Faith, religion, and being a follower of Jesus [31:32] - What success means to Kelly [33:19] - Bible app recommendation [34:42] - #1 daily habit [36:51] - Traits of a great leader [38:20] - How Kelly invests in her own growth [39:10] - Best way to connect with Kelly [42:46] - Book recommendations [47:37] - Wrap-up NOTABLE QUOTES: "There is probably something significant that you've been through. You are important, and you're worthy of whatever you want to create. Your story matters too." "If it's not in perfect alignment with who you are and where you want to be, say no." "Rather than viewing them (people in the same business or industry as you) as competition, view them as collaborators." "We just can't shame people for who they are. We have to accept them for who they are, and we can't make someone think a different way, or make someone show up a different way, or believe a certain way as you do. But you can inspire them through your actions without forcing it down someone's throat." "At the end of the day, it's having radical faith that the thing is already here, it's happening, what you're desiring, that or something even better. Maybe you do have to go through a hard and challenging time, but at the other end, there's purpose after pain." "Success is being happy and grateful with where you're at, because if you can't be happy right now, you're not going to be happy at $5 million or $20 million, or with five kids and a house in Vermont." "We can create our own beliefs and our own stories. That's what helps us get through and create our own reality." BOOKS MENTIONED: GOD Works Through You by Robert A Russell (https://a.co/d/0dyNN0KU) Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill (https://a.co/d/0ck9reeI) The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom by Don Miguel Ruiz (https://a.co/d/0ekeXxHG) The Miracle Morning: The Not-So-Obvious Secret Guaranteed to Transform Your Life (Before 8AM) by Hal Elrod (https://a.co/d/02VngcBf) The 7 Love Agreements: Decisions You Can Make on Your Own to Strengthen Your Marriage by Dr. Douglas Weiss (https://a.co/d/00lnfOVD) The Power of Moments: Why Certain Experiences Have Extraordinary Impact by Chip Heath and Dan Heath (https://a.co/d/01lo9n1p) APP MENTIONED: YouVersion Bible App (https://www.youversion.com/bible-app) USEFUL LINKS: https://www.chaselifewithkelly.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-chase-220a796/ https://www.instagram.com/chaselifewithkelly/ https://www.facebook.com/kelly.chase.161 https://tinyurl.com/ChaseLifeWithKellyPodcast https://tinyurl.com/LoveIsBlindTrailer https://www.cameo.com/chaselifewithkelly https://www.youtube.com/@chaselifewithkelly CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen X - https://x.com/johnhulen YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/

John talks with Kelly Chase — mindset coach, host of the ChaseLife with Kelly podcast, founder of Goddess Magic, entrepreneur, social media influencer, and former cast member of Netflix's "Love Is Blind" Season 1. Kelly shares what really happened behind the scenes of the show, how she dealt with online hate after saying no at the altar, and the emotional toll of having millions of people judge her character. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [01:10] - Kelly's bio [03:05] - Kelly's backstory and start in the TV industry [07:41] - Joining "Love Is Blind" [10:02] - How the show's editing affected public perception [12:15] - Dealing with public backlash and online hate [14:08] - Kelly's life after the show aired [16:51] - Transitioning into mindset coaching [20:37] - Balancing multiple careers during COVID [22:34] - "What does this make possible?" [26:46] - Being judged and receiving attacks on her character [29:15] - Online criticism and people questioning her coaching experience [30:56] - The brain surgeon analogy [32:35] - Life and dating after "Love Is Blind" [36:26] - Conversations with her parents about marriage and family [39:30] - Becoming the right person matters more than finding the right person [42:06] - The story behind her Goddess Magic coaching program [45:44] - John encourages Kelly to write her book NOTABLE QUOTES: "I was trying to prove myself and my worth to random strangers on the internet." "Remember, this is happening for me, not to me." "Even when these supposedly horrible things happen, something terrific can come out of it. It depends on your perspective." "Healing is not linear." "Rather than trying to find the right person, be the right person." "As a coach, you only need to be one step ahead of the person you're coaching." "You don't have to have it all figured out. You just have to know the next step." "True leaders, the best leaders, serve." USEFUL LINKS: https://www.chaselifewithkelly.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-chase-220a796/ https://www.instagram.com/chaselifewithkelly/ https://www.facebook.com/kelly.chase.161 https://tinyurl.com/ChaseLifeWithKellyPodcast https://tinyurl.com/LoveIsBlindTrailer https://www.cameo.com/chaselifewithkelly https://www.youtube.com/@chaselifewithkelly CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen X - https://x.com/johnhulen YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/

John continues his conversation with Michelle Campbell. Michelle talks about all the pain she went through, how she turned it into her purpose, and shares that she would never wish her painful experiences on anyone, but also would not trade them for an easier life. In Part 1, Michelle shared her journey to becoming a serial entrepreneur, the importance of understanding your relationship with money, and why financial literacy is about more than just money. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Why Michelle won't trade her pain for an easier life [03:33] - Impact of Michelle's faith on her life and business [05:50] - Starting #Stability with a promise to help others when her life improved [08:54] - Why John doesn't lead with religion or politics in business [12:05] - Why Michelle speaks about spirituality carefully and respectfully [13:34] - Forgiving the people who hurt her [17:35] - Michelle's definition of success [18:59] - #1 daily habit [20:35] - Traits of a great leader [23:43] - What "no boss" really means for entrepreneurs [24:55] - The legacy Michelle wants to leave behind [26:05] - From athletic training to engineering to real estate to finance [32:24] - Best way to connect with Michelle [37:12] - Michelle's love for the Nebraska Cornhuskers [42:39] - Wrap-up NOTABLE QUOTES: "You can lie to the world, but you can't lie to yourself." "To thine own self be true." "You've got to be truthful to yourself; otherwise, you'll never get down to it. You'll never get further." "Me having an easier life — and actually, underneath it all, me and everybody else around me still going through pain, tragedies, and challenges, not knowing how to express them, and feeling alone — that's not a win." "Don't live with any regrets. Don't regret anything. Everything counts. Nothing will be wasted." "Find the lesson ... appreciate what it was ... then just move on." "Success is finding your purpose in life and doing what makes you happy on your level, not to impress or please anybody else." "A good leader has the mind to be neutral enough to do what's best for the masses, and humble enough to take advice, listen, be corrected, and hear what other people want." "I'm not saying you need to be in the gym every day, be a bodybuilder, and eat salads for a living. But be in good health, decent health, so that you can have longevity in your life." "I like to invest in myself by investing in other people. And so, I am very stingy with my time, because it's the only thing that we can't get back." "I make it a point to spend time with people who know different things than me, so that I can feed off their energy, especially people who have done something that I want to do." "I'm grateful for all the people who came into my life, the people I've been friends with for 20 years or more, and I'm grateful for the people who broke my heart, because I wouldn't have learned." USEFUL RESOURCES: https://bymichellecampbell.com/ https://bluebirdmemoir.com/ https://linktr.ee/bluebirdmemoir https://www.instagram.com/bymichellecampbell/ https://www.instagram.com/bluebirdmemoir/ https://hashtagstability.org/ https://www.taxshell.com/ Bluebird: A Memoir of Trauma, Heartbreak, and Divine Beauty in the Struggle (https://a.co/d/04SJIEqJ) CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen X - https://x.com/johnhulen YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/

John talks with Michelle Campbell — serial entrepreneur with experience across real estate investing, horticulture (interior scaping), commercial trucking, and financial services, founder of a social services non-profit organization, #Stability, author of Bluebird: A Memoir of Trauma, Heartbreak, and Divine Beauty in the Struggle, and a passionate advocate for helping people transform their relationship with money and build more stable lives. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [00:48] - Michelle's bio [03:23] - Michelle's entrepreneur journey [05:50] - Getting into real estate [09:22] - What is financial literacy and why is it important? [13:31] - Financial problems can affect mental health [14:53] - Slowing down and being mindful [16:51] - How pain can transform your life [17:53] - Michelle's struggles with identity [20:11] - Overnight success that took 25 years [23:07] - How her struggles help her connect with others [25:01] - Being real on social media and building trust [27:38] - The truism of pain [37:54] - Michelle's book Bluebird and its purpose NOTABLE QUOTES: "Never dismiss anything that you've been through, any of the processes, the journey, any of it, because all of it adds up to what your purpose is ultimately meant to be." "We all need to humble ourselves, have that moment of honesty, and be courageous enough to face whatever it is we're going through." "Everybody needs a budget, whether you make $10,000 a year or $10 million or more, because you have to know what's coming in and what's going out." "A lot of people see our finished work, our finished picture, our finished success, but they don't know the journey. They don't see the failures, the moments we wanted to give up, or all the mess-ups along the way. They just see the end, and sometimes they become jealous." "You can be a more relatable person when you've been in someone else's shoes, and that's what truly connects us and builds compassion for others." "What I was going through was painful, but what was even more painful was keeping it all inside. No one knew what I was dealing with. I was presenting this image that everything was fine, no problems at all, but internally I was panicking. I was scared, anxious, and completely stressed out." "Mindfulness is huge. You need to sit with yourself, be in your own thoughts for a while, and really think things through. The answers will come to you, but not when you're in the middle of chaos." "We've all had something happen to us ... Everybody has been through something. Those experiences are what connect us, not just as a country, but as a world. None of us are perfect. So we need to have compassion for others and be open to sharing our stories to help someone else. That's the mindset we all need to have." USEFUL RESOURCES: https://bymichellecampbell.com/ https://bluebirdmemoir.com/ https://linktr.ee/bluebirdmemoir https://www.instagram.com/bymichellecampbell/ https://www.instagram.com/bluebirdmemoir/ https://hashtagstability.org/ https://www.taxshell.com/ Bluebird: A Memoir of Trauma, Heartbreak, and Divine Beauty in the Struggle (https://a.co/d/04SJIEqJ) CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen X - https://x.com/johnhulen YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/

John continues his conversation with Andy Crocker. In Part 1, Andy shared his journey to becoming an aerospace engineer, his career working on satellites, launch vehicles, missile defense, and lunar missions, and what it was like to compete with Elon Musk (SpaceX) and Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) for NASA's lunar lander contracts. In this episode, they talk about what it really means to fail, lead, and grow. They discuss why failing is a prerequisite for success and how companies like SpaceX use failing to learn and improve. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Why failing is actually a good thing [01:03] - What SpaceX gets right about failing [03:40] - Why leaders must allow and encourage failing [05:06] - Ritz Carlton way of encouragement [09:13] - Andy's astronaut dream [13:15] - Why Andy went back to school [15:54] - Traits of a great leader [18:12] - The difference between a leader & a boss [19:23] - Moving toward entrepreneurship [21:02] - Role of Andy's faith in his life [24:12] - Andy's definition of success [25:15] - #1 daily habit [26:09] - Legacy Andy wants to leave behind [27:01] - How Andy invests in his growth [28:10] - Leadership book recommendations [30:38] - Best way to connect with Andy [31:53] - John's 2 book rule [35:31] - Wrap-up NOTABLE QUOTES: "Failure is okay, as long as we learn and get better." "Unwillingness to fail, or treating failure as a stopping point, becomes such a constraint that you're not able to succeed, or it certainly slows it way, way down." "Failure is a prerequisite for success ... The people who have been the most successful, in whatever way you want to classify that, have failed the most because they've risked the most. They've failed, they've learned, and then they become successful." "As a leader, you want to encourage risk-taking and innovation, because … if they have to come back and ask a question, or get permission, or be taught how to do it, then they're not going to learn those new and innovative ways." "We've really got to sometimes ignore the no's, even when they seem like physical 'this can't happen.' Some people will prove that it can." "Leadership really is striving to make others better, trying to help other people be the best they can be ... It's really focused on other people, focused on serving, trying to help them be the best they can be." "Love, gratitude, integrity, accountability, and endeavor are critical ... You've got to stay aligned with your values." "A positive that's come for me out of writing the book is gratitude … being present and realizing that I can be appreciative of whatever happens to be going on." BOOKS MENTIONED: Atomic Habits by James Clear (https://a.co/d/0bnOsYDp) Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln by Doris Kearns Goodwin (https://a.co/d/0bmxQK4n) USEFUL RESOURCES: https://andycrockerbooks.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andycrocker/ https://www.instagram.com/andycrockerbooks/ https://www.facebook.com/andycrockerbooks/ The Unconditionals: Five Timeless Values to Live Without Limits and Ignite Your Superpower (https://a.co/d/0dNbjtKG) Andy's Animal Alphabet Almanac (https://a.co/d/006VHGdl) CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen X - https://x.com/johnhulen YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/

John talks with Andy Crocker — aerospace engineer and executive with 30+ years experience across human and robotic exploration, hypersonics, and missile defense, contributed to NASA's Human Landing System, leadership development enhanced through coursework at Harvard Business School and The Wharton School, and author of The Unconditionals: Five Timeless Values to Live Without Limits and Ignite Your Superpower. Andy shares his journey to becoming an aerospace engineer and opens up about his career setback, competing with companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin, and how that moment pushed him to rethink his purpose and write his book. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [00:40] - Andy's bio and backstory [03:47] - How Andy got into aerospace engineering [05:39] - Why Andy can't talk about some projects [06:48] - Competing with SpaceX and Blue Origin for a NASA project [08:56] - Losing the contract and dealing with a major career setback [10:23] - Caring for the team after loss [13:50] - 5 core values from The Unconditionals [19:30] - Love is the foundation of all values [22:16] - The Fruit of the Spirit [24:28] - How John's understanding of gratitude changed with age and pain [27:19] - Gratitude is the most direct path to happiness [29:09] - Happiness vs. Joy [33:27] - The keys to overcoming self limiting beliefs NOTABLE QUOTES: "Relationships are at the center of everything that we do. We have to connect. That connection is critical to whatever we do. We do almost nothing in solitude." "We're going to deal with hardship, no matter how great we are … and it's realizing that we've got to accept that. It doesn't mean we have to like it, but we have to accept the fact that it's going to be there and appreciate what comes out of it." "Unconditional love is not just romantic love. It's not just friendship. It's not just family. It's really about connection with people. It's about connectedness." "We always want to grow. We always want to have more, but it's: what do we have today? How can we make the best of what we have and be appreciative of what we have? And if you're a leader, it is valuing and appreciating the people who work with you, the team members." "Integrity ties to the word 'integer,' which is a whole number, and integrity means it's about being whole. It's about being uncorrupted. So integrity as a leader means you're consistent and you're authentic." "I'm a human, you're a human. We're all dealing with the same stuff, and therefore you deserve the same respect, kindness, and compassion as I do, or anybody does." "Compassion is more than just sympathy, and it's more than just empathy. It's actually recognizing that someone needs help and then acting on it." "The older we get, the more we realize the power of all the things that happened to us, in particular, the things that we thought were bad, the difficulties. We realize what we got out of those. We got stronger, hopefully, or if we didn't, at some point we're going to learn. You've got to figure out how to get through those in order to grow." "If you really can have unconditional gratitude, what comes out of it is joy. And that doesn't mean that you're always happy. It means that you accept what comes, you deal with it, and you have this unconditional contentedness inside that allows you to get through whatever comes." USEFUL RESOURCES: https://andycrockerbooks.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andycrocker/ https://www.instagram.com/andycrockerbooks/ https://www.facebook.com/andycrockerbooks/ The Unconditionals: Five Timeless Values to Live Without Limits and Ignite Your Superpower (https://a.co/d/0dNbjtKG) Andy's Animal Alphabet Almanac (https://a.co/d/006VHGdl) CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen X - https://x.com/johnhulen YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/

John talks with Richie Parker — founder of Optimech Solutions, former NASCAR engineer, part of 9 NASCAR championship teams with Hendrick Motorsports, former Chief of Staff for the University of Virginia football team, and motivational speaker who inspires people to embrace challenges and own their road to success. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [00:30] - Richie's bio [02:30] - Treating his situation as a challenge, not an obstacle [06:36] - How is Richie invests in his growth [09:39] - How growing up around cars shaped Richie's passion [11:01] - Learning to drive without arms [12:26] - Richie's first retrofit project [14:59] - How an internship changed his entire career path [17:29] - Working at Hendrick Motorsports [18:40] - Why an MBA after a successful engineering career [21:22] - Richie's transition to college athletics [23:50] - Why Richie moved to full-time speaking [25:47] - Richie's thoughts on writing a book [30:00] - John's advice for aspiring writers [31:18] - What Richie speaks about [32:18] - The DRIVE framework [38:18] - Speaking without making it about self [40:00] - Interacting with the audience [42:43] - Transition from employee to entrepreneur [44:50] - Social media vs. reality of entrepreneurship [47:44] - Impact of Richie's faith on his life [52:08] - Why communication matters [54:30] - Richie's definition of success [56:24] - #1 daily habit [57:40] - Traits of a great leader [58:47] - Legacy that Richie wants to leave behind [59:47] - Best way to connect with Richie [1:02:52] - Wrap-up NOTABLE QUOTES: "I learned to find the positive in my physical differences, versus it being a negative thing in my life." "This is life. This is the assignment, and you're going to go out and make the most of it and embrace the challenge of it." "We all have our own journey that we're on. We all have different things in our past and present, and then in our future that makes us all unique." "It's easy to look at someone and say, 'It must be nice.' Well, you don't know what that other person has gone through and what they've endured in their life to get to where they are." "If I feel good about the work that I am doing behind the scenes and I'm staying true to my core values, it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks." "If there's something that I want to do, I just look at it like, okay, eventually I will do that thing. I just have to figure out how to do that thing." "There never was a mindset that I would not be able to drive. It was more about how I was going to do it and what modifications would be involved." "If you want it bad enough, then nothing is gonna stop you." "If you truly want to make a difference in somebody's life, if you can touch just one person, make a difference for one person, then you absolutely need to write it (book)." "You can find your purpose a lot quicker if you step outside of self and start looking at the world through a lens of how you can be of service to others." "If someone has something worthwhile to say, I think it is on that person to get the training they need so that they can become the most effective communicator that they can be." "Everyone's success is different … we don't even realize how much we have accomplished and how far we have come, what we have overcome." BOOK MENTIONED: The Gap and The Gain: The High Achievers' Guide to Happiness, Confidence, and Success by Dan Sullivan & Dr. Benjamin Hardy (https://a.co/d/08uwMDD0) USEFUL RESOURCES: https://www.richieparker.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/richie-parker-ba7ab311/ https://www.instagram.com/richieparker64/ https://www.facebook.com/richie.parker.64 https://www.youtube.com/@RichieParker64 CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen X - https://x.com/johnhulen YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/

John continues his conversation with Garrett Maroon. In Part 1, Garrett shares his journey from a low-paying job to building a successful business, the struggles he faced in the early days, how his mindset changed, and why relationships became the core of everything he does today. In this episode, they talk about date night as a non‑negotiable, being truly present with your wife and kids, and much more. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Why John coaches men [03:24] - What to talk about on date night [05:09] - Loving your wife is the best gift to give your kids [05:33] - How Garrett and his wife work through feeling disconnected [09:26] - Why you should have regular dates with your kids too [10:20] - How Garrett's faith shapes everything in his life [14:57] - Garrett's definition of success [17:07] - The two lenses through which John views life [18:29] - #1 daily habit [19:06] - Traits of a great leader [20:00] - Experiences over things with kids [22:41] - How Garrett invests in his growth & marriage [25:34] - Creating memories with his family [31:25] - Best way to connect with Garrett [33:46] - Book recommendations [35:45] - Wrap-up NOTABLE QUOTES: "The best gift you can give your children is to love your wife well and show them what that looks like." "My clients can get another agent … but my four-year-old is not going to get a new daddy." "In business, you control things. You have to get things in order. But in marriage, it's about humility. I still want to lead and lead well, but it means asking, 'What are we doing? How do we do this together? What do you need from me? How can I be better?' And that's not easy." "You don't need to be silent about who you are and what you believe … it's not a backpack you take on and off if you truly believe what you believe." "The most important thing I'm going to do is not build a business … it's how I show up for my family." "Care doesn't come from how much something costs. It comes from showing up and being present." "With your kids, don't worry about the things you get them. Create opportunities for them to be with you as you're doing things, because that's what they'll hold on to forever, memories." "We misunderstand, as if our clients and consumers need us to spend a lot of money. What they're really lacking in this world is a genuine relationship with people." "We have no excuse not to be learning and growing." BOOKS MENTIONED: The Body Teaches the Soul: Ten Essential Habits to Form a Healthy and Holy Life by Justin Whitmel Earley (https://a.co/d/06pkT5ux) Habits of the Household: Practicing the Story of God in Everyday Family Rhythms by Justin Whitmel Earley (https://a.co/d/0iwZ49cl) The Power of Moments: Why Certain Experiences Have Extraordinary Impact by Chip Heath and Dan Heath (https://a.co/d/03b2Eg6P) Everyone's a Theologian: An Introduction to Systematic Theology by R. C. Sproul (https://a.co/d/0iLD8aBv) Redeeming Money: How God Reveals and Reorients Our Hearts by Paul David Tripp (https://a.co/d/01gbiMuB) Start with Why: How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Take Action by Simon Sinek (https://a.co/d/09jZthlL) The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It by Michael E. Gerber (https://a.co/d/0hbwrSc9) USEFUL RESOURCES: https://www.garrettmaroon.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/garrett-maroon-50b06135/ https://www.instagram.com/garrettmaroon/ https://www.facebook.com/gmaroon/ https://x.com/MaroonGarrett https://www.youtube.com/@faithfulagent The Faithful Agent Podcast - https://tinyurl.com/FaithfulRealEstateAgentPodcast The Balanced Breakthrough: Winning at Work Without Losing at Life (https://a.co/d/03rzNUkF) CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen X - https://x.com/johnhulen YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/

John continues his conversation with Garrett Maroon. In Part 1, Garrett shares his journey from a low-paying job to building a successful business, the struggles he faced in the early days, how his mindset changed, and why relationships became the core of everything he does today. In this episode, they talk about date night as a non‑negotiable, being truly present with your wife and kids, and much more. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Why John coaches men [03:24] - What to talk about on date night [05:09] - Loving your wife is the best gift to give your kids [05:33] - How Garrett and his wife work through feeling disconnected [09:26] - Why you should have regular dates with your kids too [10:20] - How Garrett's faith shapes everything in his life [14:57] - Garrett's definition of success [17:07] - The two lenses through which John views life [18:29] - #1 daily habit [19:06] - Traits of a great leader [20:00] - Experiences over things with kids [22:41] - How Garrett invests in his growth & marriage [25:34] - Creating memories with his family [31:25] - Best way to connect with Garrett [33:46] - Book recommendations [35:45] - Wrap-up NOTABLE QUOTES: "The best gift you can give your children is to love your wife well and show them what that looks like." "My clients can get another agent … but my four-year-old is not going to get a new daddy." "In business, you control things. You have to get things in order. But in marriage, it's about humility. I still want to lead and lead well, but it means asking, 'What are we doing? How do we do this together? What do you need from me? How can I be better?' And that's not easy." "You don't need to be silent about who you are and what you believe … it's not a backpack you take on and off if you truly believe what you believe." "The most important thing I'm going to do is not build a business … it's how I show up for my family." "Care doesn't come from how much something costs. It comes from showing up and being present." "With your kids, don't worry about the things you get them. Create opportunities for them to be with you as you're doing things, because that's what they'll hold on to forever, memories." "We misunderstand, as if our clients and consumers need us to spend a lot of money. What they're really lacking in this world is a genuine relationship with people." "We have no excuse not to be learning and growing." BOOKS MENTIONED: The Body Teaches the Soul: Ten Essential Habits to Form a Healthy and Holy Life by Justin Whitmel Earley (https://a.co/d/06pkT5ux) Habits of the Household: Practicing the Story of God in Everyday Family Rhythms by Justin Whitmel Earley (https://a.co/d/0iwZ49cl) The Power of Moments: Why Certain Experiences Have Extraordinary Impact by Chip Heath and Dan Heath (https://a.co/d/03b2Eg6P) Everyone's a Theologian: An Introduction to Systematic Theology by R. C. Sproul (https://a.co/d/0iLD8aBv) Redeeming Money: How God Reveals and Reorients Our Hearts by Paul David Tripp (https://a.co/d/01gbiMuB) Start with Why: How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Take Action by Simon Sinek (https://a.co/d/09jZthlL) The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It by Michael E. Gerber (https://a.co/d/0hbwrSc9) USEFUL RESOURCES: https://www.garrettmaroon.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/garrett-maroon-50b06135/ https://www.instagram.com/garrettmaroon/ https://www.facebook.com/gmaroon/ https://x.com/MaroonGarrett https://www.youtube.com/@faithfulagent The Faithful Agent Podcast - https://tinyurl.com/FaithfulRealEstateAgentPodcast The Balanced Breakthrough: Winning at Work Without Losing at Life (https://a.co/d/03rzNUkF) CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen X - https://x.com/johnhulen YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/

John talks with Garrett Maroon — real estate entrepreneur, coach, founder of the 210 Collective (a community for Christian real estate agents), host of The Faithful Agent Podcast, author of The Balanced Breakthrough: Winning at Work Without Losing at Life, and devoted husband and dad of five. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Intro [01:21] - Garrett's bio [03:41] - Garrett's journey from $40K job to real estate [08:02] - Transition from employee to entrepreneur [09:55] - Hiring a coach when you're broke [13:40] - Support from his wife during tough times [15:27] - Setting a big goal and making it possible [18:48] - Survival mode in business and life pressure [22:23] - What is the 210 Collective? [25:35] - Choosing relationships over cold calling, door knocking, etc [28:08] - The special intuition women have [31:05] - The Balanced Breakthrough book NOTABLE QUOTES: "The person who doesn't give up is the person who wins." "The only thing worse than not knowing how much you're going to make is knowing exactly how much you're going to make, and not having any say over that." "Business is like walking into a pitch-black room, trying to find a light switch." "As business owners, we don't give ourselves enough grace. Business is not a place where the coach can just say, 'Here's a light switch. I'll switch it on for you.' That's not how business works. Business works by failing enough times to finally figure out where that switch is. You figure it out by failing, learning, and trying again. A coach can guide you faster, but you'll still hit walls along the way." "When we give ourselves an infinite runway, the plane will eventually take off. It's when we shut the runway too quickly that the plane never gets there." "We've got to restore the right definition of what winning is, and then achieve it in a way that allows us to still show up and be present with family. Because that's what matters at the end of the day." "Are you willing to struggle for six months to potentially have a completely new life after that?" "In five years from now, who would you be most proud of: the person who figured out how to double their profit but had to work 60 hours a week and miss their family, or the person who figured out how to work less and still earn the same income?" USEFUL RESOURCES: https://www.garrettmaroon.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/garrett-maroon-50b06135/ https://www.instagram.com/garrettmaroon/ https://www.facebook.com/gmaroon/ https://x.com/MaroonGarrett https://www.youtube.com/@faithfulagent The Faithful Agent Podcast - https://tinyurl.com/FaithfulRealEstateAgentPodcast The Balanced Breakthrough: Winning at Work Without Losing at Life (https://a.co/d/03rzNUkF) CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen X - https://x.com/johnhulen YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/