In this episode, Dr. Kelly Culver and Jenn Quader talk with Michael Quinn, former FBI cyber agent and current senior incident responder with cybereason.

Michael explains how resilience shapes everything from personal setbacks to global cyber defense. He shares why overconfidence is today’s greatest risk, how practicing “fire drills” helps organizations prepare for crises, and what lessons from the FBI can guide leaders and families alike.
In this conversation:

✔ What resilience really means (recovery + reflection)
✔ Why cyber risks are often underestimated
✔ The danger of overconfidence in organizations
✔ Fire drills and tabletop exercises for cyber resilience
✔ How life experience, gratitude, and endurance fuel leadership

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Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:46 Defining resilience
06:24 Life experiences that build endurance
07:24 Underestimated cyber risks
09:49 Fire drills for organizations
12:25 Why testing beats reacting
20:00 Lessons for leaders & communities