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Al Letson
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Hey, it's Al. And 2025 has been a brutal year for public media. I gotta tell you, it is not easy to produce fearless journalism at a time when truth itself is under siege. The one thing it takes is community. That's you. Your support, your time, your willingness to listen, share and engage. That's what keeps our reporting alive and thriving. Every time you tune into our work, you're part of the community that says, yes, facts matter. Yes, power should be challenged, and yes, independent voices are essential. Right now, we need that community to step up for us and donate. We've got a big year end fundraising goal and we need you on board if we're going to get there. This show just cannot exist without listeners who care enough to help us pay the bills. Listeners like you. So I'm asking you, can you help? Any amount works for us. Just text GIVE to 88857, REVEAL. That's give to 888-577-3832 and we'll send a donate link or visit revealnews.org 2026Thank you. From the center for Investigative Reporting and prx. This is Reveal. I'm Al Letson. I'm standing on a corner on the southwest side of Chicago. It's around 3pm on a Thursday and it's like any other weekday. Right about this time, school is out. Kids are pouring across the sidewalk, jumping on each other's backs, pointing to my producer Ashley Kleeg's microphone.
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Ashley Kleek
It's just a microphone.
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Al Letson
They're hamming it up because they think we have a camera.
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Ashley Kleek
Can I be on the news?
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Al Letson
Sorry, kid. Audio only. There's a small playground with a gate where parents are holding hands with their kids, matching the slow stride of their steps. It seems totally normal unless you know where to look. For the past few months, there have been local volunteers, neighbors really walking kids down the street. Children of immigrant families because many of their parents have decided it's too dangerous to leave their homes. On the corner, a huddle of teachers are passing out plastic orange whistles.
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Ashley Kleek
You need one? I have one.
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Joseph Cox
Who needs one?
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Ashley Kleek
Okay, you need one, let me know.
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Al Letson
The whistles have become an unofficial alarm system across the city, used to alert neighbors if Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are nearby. Everyday Chicagoans have been relentless about finding creative ways to keep communities united and safe since the federal government arrived in September. The Trump administration's Operation Midway Blitz deployed over 200 Border Patrol agents to the city. The point, according to the Department of Homeland Security, was to make Chicago safer and arrest the, quote, worst of the worst. That at least is the government's narrative, but certainly not the only one. Members of Congress have said that agents are treating Chicago, quote, like a war zone. And residents are filming everything.
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Ashley Kleek
There are at least six ICE agents taking someone right now.
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Al Letson
Videos out of Chicago show federal agents tear gassing protesters on residential streets.
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Ashley Kleek
Oh, my shit.
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Al Letson
Even disrupting a children's Halloween parade. Tear gas in old Irving Park. Right now. Our own neighborhood scaring our children. They fired pepper balls at employees who blocked them from entering private property.
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Ashley Kleek
Get off their property. You don't have any warrants.
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Al Letson
In a video from a school pickup line in early October.
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Ashley Kleek
Wait, you guys came to the school to do this?
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Al Letson
Mass. Federal agents drag a woman out of her own car.
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Ashley Kleek
They have an actual warrant. My name is Jocelyn. They forcefully opened the door of the truck. It was locked. It was not.
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Al Letson
They've pepper sprayed Chicago police officers, detained a journalist, a local politician, and a pastor.
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Ashley Kleek
You're supposed to be ridiculous.
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Al Letson
They've also arrested citizens. They shot one woman multiple times and killed one man. We don't know how many people have been detained in Operation Midway Blitz. The Department of Homeland Security hasn't publicly released the numbers of people detained, arrested, or deported. But journalists from the Chicago Tribune took data gathered by academics and lawyers at the Deportation Data Project and found that in the first weeks of the operation, agents arrested nearly 1900 immigrants, and the vast majority of them had no criminal record whatsoever. Like not even a traffic ticket. It's one of the many data points that disputes the government's worst of the worst justification for the force they've used in Chicago. ICE and Border Patrol agents roaming around the streets in unmarked cars, faces covered, armed with military style semiautomatic weapons, tactics they say are meant to protect themselves, but have spread fear across the city like a noxious gas. People are scared. Many folks we spoke to said it feels like the federal government is turning its military power inward, going to war with its own city.
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We are following this breaking news out of the South Shore Neighborhood. This is video of an immigration raid. Well, all is quiet here now. It was about 36 hours ago that dozens of federal agents wearing masks, carrying long guns, wearing helmets swooped in and took off with about three dozen people they say were in the US illegally.
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In late September, agents stormed a South side apartment building. They arrested 37 people, most of whom were Venezuelan. Of those arrested, DHS claimed two were affiliated with a Venezuelan gang. A but extensive reporting by ProPublica, frontline and block Club Chicago debunked that claim. It's been months since the raid and the government has yet to criminally charge anyone. But DHS did use the footage from that night for something else, for propaganda. Federal agents were flanked by a film crew that later cut together a short promo for DHS's Instagram. The whole thing is shot like an action movie. A team of heroes here to save the day. In the video, federal agents from a special unit trained to respond to threats of terrorism rappel down from Blackhawk helicopters onto the roof of a five story apartment building. Guns drawn, floodlights blindly scan the building. It's pitch black outside, middle of the night. Agents lead out bewildered looking men, many in pajamas and oversized T shirts. Agents zip tie their hands and force them into the backs of vans. But there's a lot the video doesn't show. Drones hovering over the building as agents bash inside doors. Mothers with their children, some without shoes, some still in diapers, who who were also paraded outside by federal agents.
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Ashley Kleek
Chicago Mercy right now. 1. I don't know if this is an emergency, but there's this helicopter that keeps flying around the house.
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Al Letson
A local newspaper, Southside Weekly, got 911 recordings from residents who called in that night.
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Ashley Kleek
We've been doing this for a whole hour and I don't understand why. There's like working families around here. We all need to go to work in the morning. And so him hovering around is really driving me absolutely insane. Chicago emergency, Heinz.
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Darren Hightower
Yeah, we just had a wrongful break.
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Balthazar Enriquez
In by the FBI and the ICE.
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Al Letson
People and now my friend's door won't even lock. The head of this operation, U.S. customs and Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bevino, admitted that some U.S. citizens were detained in the raid. But he told NewsNation, quote, no rights have been violated today. And he told the New York Times that everything was highly successful. Do you ever worry that you're going too far? Does that ever come into your mind?
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Narrator/Announcer
No, it doesn't. Because especially those inner city residents here in Chicago who have been silenced, been silenced by the Governor Pritzers and the Mayor Johnsons, those inner city residents come out and say, please stay, please do more.
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Al Letson
We didn't hear back from DHS when we reached out for comment. We're in the South Shore neighborhood of Chicago. Reveal. Producer Ashley Kleek and I visited the apartment complex a good month after the raid. It is a beautiful fall day. The leaves are turning and I think this neighborhood feels alive. Like there's a lot of people on the streets. Right behind the apartment is a group of four guys chatting and hanging out. When we asked him about the raid, one of them, Antwan Baker, says he wasn't around that night, but he definitely heard about it. Salute the kids.
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Darren Hightower
And zip ties. That was crazy. No clothes on. That was crazy. Look here, babies.
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Al Letson
No clothes.
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Darren Hightower
Like, I got a brand new child. I'm gonna show you.
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Al Letson
Antoine pulls up a picture on his phone.
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Joseph Cox
Eight months.
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Al Letson
Eight months. It's beautiful. He, it's his new eight month old baby. All smiles and chubby cheeks.
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Darren Hightower
I'm just sitting. Cause every time I talk about that thing, I see my baby. Like, God damn. But yeah, that's all I gotta say about them. I never had no issues, no problems with them people at all.
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Al Letson
At all. We walk around the building, 7500 South Sewer Drive. And the main thing I notice is it's big. Over 100 units. Tall windows, several of which are busted out or boarded up. It's hard to tell how long they've been broken. And then in contrast, standing on the corner with your back to the building, you can look down the street and see the turquoise blue of Lake Michigan. Obama's presidential center is like three miles away. As gentrification steamrolls south, this neighborhood has one of the highest eviction rates in Chicago. And you can feel it. This could be prime real estate.
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Ashley Kleek
Yeah.
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Al Letson
Hello, my friend. How are you?
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How's it going?
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Ashley Kleek
Good, good, good.
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Al Letson
In front of the building, we meet Alma Campos.
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Alma Campos
I'm Alma Campos. I'm a reporter and editor covering immigration for Southside Weekly.
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Al Letson
Alma's been reporting on immigration and the south side for five years, and she says it isn't an accident that this raid happened here. South Shore is a historically black neighborhood that has been economically and politically ignored for years.
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Alma Campos
They've been strained by decades of disinvestment with, you know, shutter schools, limited city services. The community has also seen a lot of gentrification pressures. And it creates these conditions where people are just very vulnerable.
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Al Letson
And in 2022, this neighborhood was also the site of politically orchestrated chaos. That summer, Texas Governor Greg Abbott started busing immigrants from the southern border to sanctuary cities like New York and Chicago from Texas are waking up here in Chicago.
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Texas governor Greg Abbott sent them here on a bus and says he's planning to send more.
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For nearly two years, Abbott bussed, then flew tens of thousands of migrants to Chicago, and the city was not prepared.
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Alma Campos
And so the city's, like, trying to figure out where to place people, where to house them.
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Al Letson
One of the solutions the city came up with was police stations.
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Balthazar Enriquez
It was intended to be a temporary solution, but many of those men, women, and children have been sleeping on floors or in tents outside police stations for months.
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Al Letson
Over 3,000 migrants lived in police stations across Chicago.
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Alma Campos
I mean, I myself saw how they lived, and, you know, basically just people on the floor slept there with bags, garbage bags full of, like, clothes and things like that. Families just, like, slept on the lobbies for months.
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Al Letson
The process of finding housing for migrant families was deeply divisive. Officials approached neighborhoods on the south side, saying they would turn a vacant high school into a temporary shelter. But many residents were furious, and they let the city council know at a series of public meetings.
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Ashley Kleek
While this crisis may constitute an emergency for the city of Chicago, it does not constit emergency for the south shore community.
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Al Letson
Where was all this money coming from to help migrants? And why weren't locals getting the same attention?
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Ashley Kleek
I think it would be very fair for every homeless immigrant that you bring in, that you scoop up one of the homeless individuals in our community. I think that would be fair.
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Al Letson
Politicians did listen to the residents, and the school was never turned into a shelter. Instead, the city offered migrants housing assistance for some apartment buildings. And one of the buildings that took that assistance was 7500 S. South Shore Dr, where the raid happened.
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Alma Campos
But there were just a lot of problems with the building itself.
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Al Letson
A lot of problems. For years. Darren Hightower moved into the building back in the summer of 2023.
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Darren Hightower
Things just kind of went downhill, I would probably say within, like, the first six months or so.
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Al Letson
Darren says the first major problem came when the unit above his flooded, leaking into his apartment.
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Darren Hightower
It, like, came out the ceilings and everything, water leaking everywhere. So I had to keep calling out and everything because it was debris falling from my ceiling.
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Al Letson
Now Darren calls the management for the apartment. He calls the city. He says it takes months for the building to send someone to fix his ceiling.
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Darren Hightower
I guess from the moisture, the water in the walls and everything, my door began to become warped. Yeah, like, I couldn't get in or out of my apartment. I was having difficulty Usually I hear someone in the hallway, hey, hey, can you kick my door in so I can get out or whatever?
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Al Letson
He calls again. Eventually they do come, but he says they don't replace his door. They just shave it down so that it'll close.
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Darren Hightower
And they shaved my door down. It was completely like, you can walk past my doorway and kind of see partially into my apartment. I've called several times. Hey, you know, it's trash in the hallways. It's such and such. Can you get somebody to come out? Yeah, we'll send somebody out. I'll come back home from work and same. It's still there.
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Al Letson
Darren and other residents say the issues in the building were constantly. Like, sometimes there were no lights in some of the hallways or stairwells for weeks. In 2024, tenants had no gas. The elevator was routinely broken, making it very difficult for elderly and disabled residents to leave their apartments. Darren says he would often wear gloves and a mask when he entered and left his building because he didn't want to touch anything. And the smell was so bad most.
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Darren Hightower
Of the week, it's probably a flood on the first floor. You know, I used to have people come over, and now I don't. You know, I'm ashamed of people even know that I live here, you know, let alone walk through the hallways that I have to walk through filled with trash and all type of other stuff going on in there. So it's terrible, man.
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Al Letson
It's like, so they're not taking care of the property, and then they bring in, you know, a large group of people, which obviously means that you need more upkeep, and so. And they're not doing the bare minimum.
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Darren Hightower
It's been literally days. I did not go home, and I've slept in my car once. I say one time. I slept in my car one time. I didn't have nowhere else to go. So it hurts that it takes that attention of ICE to get this notice that hurts the most. And then, like, y' all making it like it's just been because of the migration, and it hasn't.
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Al Letson
When the raid happened, Darren wasn't home, but he could tell when he came back. Doors were bashed in. Trash and people's belongings were everywhere. Darren's apartment was undisturbed, which raised the question, how did the federal agents decide which apartment doors to bash in? After the raid, local journalists found a crumpled map marking apartments in three vacant tenant and firearms. The Associated Press reported that the building's landlord had told immigration officials that Venezuelan migrants were not paying rent and threatening other Residents. One resident told a reporter with a local magazine, quote, it costs a lot more money to evict someone than it does to call ICE on them them. We reached out to the companies that have managed the building about all of the things residents told us, but they didn't respond.
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Darren Hightower
I ain't afraid. I don't care, man. I've been kicked in my back my whole life. So it's going to come regardless.
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Al Letson
The building is in foreclosure and the week of Thanksgiving, everyone still living there got an eviction notice. They had two weeks to move out. Darren and others in the building formed a tenants union and they've demanded more time and money to fund the move. The residents even have the mayor on their side. Brandon Johnson wrote a letter in support of their demands. Quote, the residents didn't create the conditions that now threaten to displace them. Even still, the situation hasn't changed. Residents had until December 12th to move out.
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Ashley Kleek
People have been trying to get out of this building, right? It's not that people don't want to leave. It's not that people are dragging their feet. It's that it's hard.
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Darren Hightower
I don't have anywhere to go. I'll be homeless Friday. Where are we going to go? America? We still trying to figure that out. It's a few days left.
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Al Letson
Up next, we head to a Chicago neighborhood that's been a center of this federal operation and where residents are organizing to push back. That's ahead. You're listening to Reveal.
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Al Letson
Hey, it's Al again. And before we get back to the show, I'm just following up on my request from earlier. You know, the one about how we need your donations before December 31st to ensure that we can keep bringing you investigations like this in 2026. We need you, please. Before you grab another cup of coffee or start scrolling on your phone, just text the word give to 888-57-REAL. That's 888-577-3832 or visit revealnews.org 2026 and thank you. From the center for Investigative Reporting and prx, this is Reveal. I'm Al Letson. So there's an image out of Chicago that I can't stop thinking about. When visitors come to town, one of the obligatory things to do is visit the touristy heart of downtown and pose for a picture in front of the Bean, that famous stainless steel reflective sculpture that looks like a big kidney bean. Even Border Patrol agents who have been deployed here have done it. On a Monday in early November, dozens of agents in their military fatigues, faces covered, many carrying assault rifles, huddled together for a picture in front of the bean. Their boss, U.S. border Patrol commander Gregory Bevino, squeezed in tight with his men. We only know this because a local journalist was there, Colin Boyle from Block Club Chicago. He reported that as they snapped pictures, one agent called out, everyone say Little Village. And a crowd of agents yelled back, little Village. Little Village is a Mexican American neighborhood on Chicago's southwest side, one of the largest Mexican American communities in the Midwest. And since the start of Operation Midway Blitz, Little Village has been one of the main targets.
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Balthazar Enriquez
If they really want to work with the community, give us the list of the criminals and we will help you get them.
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Al Letson
Balthasar Enriquez is the president of Little Village Community Council and It's true. He probably could find anyone in Little Village. While me and Reveal producer Ashley Kleek meet with him, Balthazar is constantly on the phone coordinating something. A ride, a meal, a meeting with a lawyer. And he's been the first call for a lot of residents as federal agents have stormed the neighborhood.
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Balthazar Enriquez
But don't go after the lady selling tamales, the man that is taking his kids to school, the person that's waiting for the bus, people going to the laundry, because that's who they're going after. They're not going after the criminals, because if they really were, there's a big criminal in the White House, they could go after him. So they.
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Al Letson
Even before President Donald Trump won re election, Balthazar and his fellow organizers knew Little Village could be a target.
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Balthazar Enriquez
January 20, when he was inaugurated, we were already out there. We're a caravan of people going to the temp agencies, to the day laborers, letting them know, in case there's a raid at your job, this is what you have to do. This is your rights.
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Al Letson
By the summer, Balthazar and his organization started bracing for raids. They watched how Bevino and Border Patrol agents behaved in la, and. And so they called people they knew there.
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Balthazar Enriquez
Once we talked to our brothers and sisters over in Los Angeles, and they told us, Balthazar, when they came here, they came here like savages. They came here to the parks, to the schools, to the hospitals.
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Al Letson
Balthazar wanted his neighborhood to be prepared, to protect themselves and each other. And part of the answer was whistles. Now they're all over the city. But in the early summer, when Little Village Community Council started passing them out.
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Balthazar Enriquez
People were like, what the. What is El gonna do?
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Al Letson
A lot, actually. Some neighborhoods have different systems. But in Little Village, a short series of tweets mean agents are nearby. A long whistle sound means someone is being detained.
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Balthazar Enriquez
You hear the sound is because immigration is around. Lock the doors, lock your gates and go to a safe place or go home. And if you do got papers, if you're a citizen, come and say, hey, get the hell out of my neighborhood. Show us the warrant. Show us why you're here. We have given out just in little village, about 8,000 whistles.
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Al Letson
And in the hundreds of videos that have come out of Chicago, you can hear them everywhere.
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Ashley Kleek
You gotta live.
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Joseph Cox
Leave.
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Ashley Kleek
Leave. This is unconstitutional.
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Al Letson
Knowing where federal agents are hasn't been able to totally interrupt their goal to arrest 3,000 immigrants a day. For weeks, brigades of unmarked SUVs patrolled Little Village's streets, and Balthazar and teams of volunteers have tried to keep up and keep track by filming everything in one video from October, Bavino himself casually throws a canister of tear gas into a crowd of protesters near Little Village's main street. This community has been on high alert for months. When Ashley and I visit the Little Village Community Council office, we can feel it. Everyone's exhausted and a little on edge.
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Ashley Kleek
I was on back of Bovino.
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Al Letson
Earlier that day, agents arrested one of their organizers, a US Citizen. Volunteers figured they would take her to the federal jail downtown, but no one could confirm where she was. Until finally, one of the volunteers gets a call.
- [27:40]
Ashley Kleek
Harley's on her way. They came here. She's out. We got to go get her.
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Al Letson
All right, I'll see you right now. She was taken to the Broadview Migrant Processing center in the suburbs, a location that has been the site of many protests, where federal agents have been accused of excessive force and where a federal lawsuit alleges detainees are kept in inhumane conditions. A few volunteers jump in a car to go pick her up. The office is also abuzz with reports. Reports that earlier in the day, federal agents were driving down residential streets, pointing weapons and antagonizing residents. A man and a woman come into the office to report being harassed by ICE agents over a week before. The man was outside selling flowers and figurines for Day of the Dead, they say. A bunch of cars pulled up, and agents got out and demanded to see the man's documents. He pulled out his work permit and says after holding him in one of their vehicles, the agents eventually let him go and left. But he's really shook up, and he wants advice for what to do in the future, for next time. Like most sanctuary cities, Chicago has multiple ordinances prohibiting the police department from assisting federal agents with immigration enforcement. Mayor Brandon Johnson signed an order saying that no city property should be used for federal immigration raids. So I asked Balthazar about it. Does he feel like the city is protecting immigrants? Yes and no. Balthazar says, sure, Chicago is a sanctuary city, but what good does that do? When he's seen Chicago police officers support and protect federal agents, when he's seen agents using city property to prepare for immigration arrests, when they stage right down.
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Balthazar Enriquez
The street at Lazaro Cardena School in their. In their parking lot, we're the ones that called out the mayor and said, okay, it's great that you're enacting an executive order, but how. What's the point of it if. If it's not being enforced? So that's why we're saying talk is cheap.
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Al Letson
Balthazar prefers action. From morning to evening, teams of Volunteers pick up kids from school, drop off grand groceries to families who are too scared to leave their homes, and they patrol their neighborhood, walking on bikes in cars, blowing their whistles when they see federal agents and filming what agents are doing to their community.
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Balthazar Enriquez
Trust me, I have burned out a couple of my volunteers where they say, no, Baltazar.
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Joseph Cox
I'm done.
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Al Letson
It's early evening. The sun is setting. We head outside to the neighborhood's main drag. They're handing out whistles. Yep.
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Ashley Kleek
Those guys on the corner.
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Al Letson
Yeah. So there's a report that ICE is in the area, and we are on the corner of 26 in Central Park, Little Village, and Balthazar's organization is out giving out whistles to anybody that take them. We run into one of Balthazar's organizers, Chela Garcia. She was the one who went to pick up that other volunteer from the Broadview ICE facility.
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Ashley Kleek
It's hard, you know, to do these things because those that are out there are definitely at risk for arrest.
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Al Letson
Chella does a regular patrol. She says that earlier in the day, she saw Gregory Bevino and a caravan.
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Ashley Kleek
Of agents, and Bovino was driving through small streets. Okay. And he was even going down one way, jumping out of the vehicle like monsters. Like, that's what they were doing. And then once people began running, they were, like, jumping out of the vehicles, like, almost having joy of scaring people that were in the streets. They did not take custody of anyone.
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Al Letson
So you think that was just fear and intimidation was their goal and not necessarily apprehending people, but just to make everybody in the neighborhood feel on edge?
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Ashley Kleek
Most definitely. To traumatize people, to give a show to Trump, you know, to say, look at my guys. They're out there working diligently.
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Al Letson
You know, do you feel like the community itself is feeling the effects of that, of those type of. Of spectacle raids? Basically, yes.
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Ashley Kleek
Because today what I noticed is it wasn't just the community. It was media. There was a lot of media that was in back. So I think because they seen that media was in back of them, that they were gonna ramp up their efforts.
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Al Letson
Yeah. So it's kind of like if the media is not careful, you're kind of helping spread their message of fear and intimidation.
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Ashley Kleek
Yes.
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Al Letson
I've been thinking about this a lot, and it brings to mind something that journalist Adam Serwer wrote. Cruelty is the point. Federal agents aren't just here to detain people. One glance through DHS's Instagram post makes it clear they are editing together footage of their enforcement to put on a show. Whether it's the way they run up on protesters. How they've roughed people up who are not resisting during arrests, or how officials have lied about agents being attacked by civilians. Journalists, myself included, want to document what's happening. But if we're not careful, our coverage can help add to the government's narrative. And I don't want to make the government's propaganda for them what the numbers tell us. The majority of people federal agents are detaining have zero criminal record. Zero. Instead of the worst of the worst, they seem to be blindly grabbing up anyone in their path. People who sell food on street corners, folks walking home from their errands, childcare workers, day laborers. People will say this isn't America. But a cursory glance at history tells us this has always been who we are.
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Ashley Kleek
What happened?
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Al Letson
They got a hit back at the office. Chella gets a call. Another ICE sighting. And we head out.
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Ashley Kleek
They're picking up people ISIS on Twitter. 26andwestern. So right now what we're doing is we're going to drive in that area. I'm gonna see where they're at, and then pretty much get behind them and, you know, just warn people.
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Alma Campos
Okay.
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Al Letson
Chella says we can join her. And we all get in our rental car and head towards the intersection. It's about 5pm Starting to get dark.
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Ashley Kleek
And lower your windows because we could hear, hear them.
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Al Letson
If we hear any honking, it might tell us where ICE is. Chella's on the phone talking to other people who are patrolling.
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Ashley Kleek
Where you at? Okay, I'm over here on 26 and Western. What do you want me to do?
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Balthazar Enriquez
26.
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Ashley Kleek
26. Okay, I'll whip around right now because I'm on Western.
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Al Letson
Were you U Turning and looping through one ways, looking out for cars with out of state plates. Big SUVs. There were reports that federal agents regularly swap out their cars and license plates. It feels like doing this work would make you see your community through a menacing new lens. Every car a potential threat, every driver a potential agent. Chella gets another call. ICE agents by the flower shop.
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Ashley Kleek
And how long ago was that? 11 minutes ago. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna go just take a little pass by there.
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Balthazar Enriquez
Okay.
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Ashley Kleek
Two black SUV's plates. What's the make of the SUV's?
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Al Letson
We circle through the parking lot of a flower shop. There's no one here. Chella says about half the calls are real ICE sightings. The other half are nothing.
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Ashley Kleek
Well, here's the last sighting that they said that it was right, right across the street. So we would just watch and see if there's anything here.
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Al Letson
We cruise through the parking lot, and Chella gets on the phone with Balthazar.
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Ashley Kleek
Where are you at? All right, I'm heading back right now, and I. I need to go home. I'm exhausted. Yeah, I'm an old lady. I don't think they're going to be out tonight. I think they're done. I think they're done. I think they did their show. I think these guys calls are people being nervous. All right, I'm heading back now. So I'm not staying at home right now because I keep thinking that ICE is gonna definitely break down the door and yank me out of bed and just take me into custody, you know, in the middle of the night.
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Al Letson
Chella's a citizen, Chicago born and raised, but she's scared because of the work she does. She doesn't have any proof, but she feels certain that agents know who she is. Other volunteers we spoke to share the same fear.
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Ashley Kleek
You know, I don't trust them. I really do think that I'm staying far away from my house right now, you know, like, I literally have to take two buses and a train to get there, you know, but I have to and truck back here tomorrow to, you know, do this all over again.
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Al Letson
A week or so after we left Chicago, the federal government started withdrawing many of its agents from the city. Little Village's main streets are coming back to life. Some of the businesses have stopped preemptively locking their doors. But some of the tactics and tools that agents deployed in Chicago, well, it seems like those be here to stay.
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Joseph Cox
I think there's been a fundamental shift in the United States, where tools that were traditionally used and reserved for protecting the border have now been flipped inwards.
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Al Letson
The surveillance technology that powers immigration rates. That's next on Reveal.
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Narrator/Announcer
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Ashley Kleek
There's a lot going on right now. Mounting economic inequality, threats to democracy, environmental disaster, the sour stench of chaos in the air. I'm Brooke Gladstone, host of WNYC's on the Media Wanting. Did you understand the reasons and the meanings of the narratives that led us here? And maybe how to head them off at the pass that's on the Media specialty. Take a listen wherever you get your podcasts.
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Al Letson
From the center for Investigative Reporting and prx, this is Reveal. I'm Al Letson.
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Ashley Kleek
All right, Al. Okay, where are we at?
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Al Letson
We are freezing in Chicago. Chicago. We are on the north side of Chicago and it's a little chilly. Florida boy is cold, but, you know, it's not that bad. Me and Reveal producer Ashley Kleek were freezing for a reason. We're waiting outside a coffee shop to meet Evelyn Vargas. How are you? Good to meet you.
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Ashley Kleek
Good to meet you.
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Al Letson
Evelyn is an organizer with a group called ocat, Organized Communities Against Deportations. For the past few months, she's been working to support families being targeted by the Trump administration's immigration raids. This has meant connecting families to city services, legal support, and also manning a hotline where people report sightings of federal agents and document detentions. Pretty soon after Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents arrived in Chicago, Evelyn stuck started hearing about an app that they were using.
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Alma Campos
I didn't believe it.
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Ashley Kleek
That sounded ridiculous, sounded inane.
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Al Letson
People who had seen the agents patrolling the streets said the app could use a picture of someone's face to figure out their immigration status.
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Ashley Kleek
How could a photo of you pull up all the information that's on file? I didn't think we were there technologically. I didn't think it was possible.
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Al Letson
But she was hearing it over and over again. People being stopped by agents and having a camera phone shoved in their faces.
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Ashley Kleek
They can come up to you, take a picture, not say anything to you. And if the Databases say that you're a citizen. They walk away and you don't know what just happened.
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Al Letson
So Ashley started calling around.
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Ashley Kleek
Can you just introduce yourself? Like your name and. Yeah, yeah, no worries.
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Alexander Carduno
Yeah, my name is Alexander Carduno.
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Al Letson
Alex is 19. He's from Chicago, lives in Little Village and volunteers with the Little Village Community Council. For months, he's been doing a bike patrol around his neighborhood in the morning, watching out for ICE agents.
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Alexander Carduno
Well, my experience has been kind of wild. While I was patrolling, I've been tear gas. I mean, they were telling me they were going to chase me, shoot at me, a lot of stuff, you know, it's been crazy for me.
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Al Letson
One morning when Alex had just really started patrolling, he and his friend saw an suv. It looked new, with out of state plates. They're like, oh, this has to be ice.
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Alexander Carduno
Well, I started blowing the whistle and, you know, letting people know it was ice. And that's when the car started panicking, like the ICE engine started panicking. They were driving the wrong way and they almost caught us. They almost got into a car crash.
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Al Letson
Alex says the car started driving away and he and his friend kept following on their bikes.
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Alexander Carduno
And we got close enough to the side of them, and that's when we noticed they grabbed their phone and started taking pictures of us.
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Al Letson
Alex's friend is a minor. The agents were close enough to get clear photos of their faces.
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Ashley Kleek
What did you think when they did that?
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Alexander Carduno
It was kind of suspicious for me. I'm like, why don't we need our photos? Well, my friend, my other friend, he got mad. I got just, like, curious, you know, I wanted to know why they took pictures of us. Like, how are they going to get our information? Or what are they going to know about us just because of the pictures they took?
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Al Letson
We heard similar stories regularly while we were in Chicago. Jesus Gutierrez told us he was walking home from the gym one morning, and when a gray truck pulled up alongside him, federal agents who did not identify themselves jumped out and asked for his id.
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Balthazar Enriquez
They got down and they stopped me and they were like, don't run. I'm like, ain't nobody running, bro.
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Al Letson
Jesus explained he didn't have it on him, but he said he had a picture on his phone. When he couldn't find it fast enough, he says the agents pulled him into the car, handcuffed him, put his phone on airplane mode, and drove off. Jesus says they drove him around for about an hour before scanning his face with a phone, saying, oh, yeah, he's a citizen.
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Balthazar Enriquez
And they were like, oh, yeah, you're right, bro.
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Al Letson
I ain't lying.
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Balthazar Enriquez
Why would I be lying? And they were like, oh, we just doing the jobs. I'm like, okay, I understand, dude. But like, you're just grabbing, like, random people, dude.
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Al Letson
After they released him, Jesus says he didn't sleep that night and didn't leave his house for dinner days. Incidents like this have been well documented in news reports, social media, and even a letter from a senator. Now, we don't know what the Department of Homeland Security plans to do with the photos and videos they've captured of people in Chicago, but we do know that the government is going to keep those photos on file for the next 15 years. And the way we know that is through a journalist named Joseph Cox.
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Joseph Cox
Joseph, I'm Joseph Cox, a co founder of 404 Media and host of the 404 Media podcast.
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Al Letson
Joseph and 404 Media were the first to reveal this technology even existed.
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Joseph Cox
ICE has a facial recognition app called Mobile Fortify. And this is on the ICE officers phones, their iPhone, or their Android device given to them by the agency. They go out and they scan people's faces with. Wait a short moment. And then they get their name, they get their date of birth. They get whether this person has been issued a deportation order or not. Now, we've had facial recognition for years. That's not a new technology in itself. But according to the leaked ICE material I obtained, it was using the Customs and Border Protection system. That's usually reserved for when you enter the United States, when you go to the border and they take your photo and they verify who you are.
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Ashley Kleek
They.
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Joseph Cox
They had taken that and turned it inwards into the country, which it was never designed to do. So that was a real crystallising moment for me that, oh, all bets are off. Now they're taking technology that was never designed for this and using it for an entirely different surveillance purpose.
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Al Letson
Joseph explains ICE agents have more than just this face scanning app at their disposal. There's another app made by Motorola that they can use to scan license plates.
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Joseph Cox
And what ICE can do is scan a license plate. It will then add it to this massive database of all of these other cameras all over the country, and that can see where else that car has been in the recent past, in the distant past. And it can also predict where the vehicle's going to be in the future.
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Al Letson
The app can even cross reference all of these other points of data connected to the car's owner.
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Joseph Cox
Thomson Reuters then enriches that data with vehicle ownership details. So obviously you can see who owns the car, marriage licenses as well. So you can figure out their associates credit header data, which is sort of the personal data at the top of your credit report, like your name, address and phone number and that sort of thing. And it can basically create an entire picture of somebody's life when you combine these different data sets. That really is the key is gluing all of this stuff together.
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Al Letson
So if you're counting, that's two phone apps and countless data touch points. And of course, there's a lot more than that. Here's the rest of my conversation with Joseph. Do we know exactly what data DHS and ICE have access to?
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Joseph Cox
How long have we got? It's a long list, but I would bring up a couple of examples which to me the most pressing. You know, the irs, for example, was not allowed to share data with ice. Taxpayer data has legally been protected for years and years and years to encourage undocumented people to pay their taxes. That's now been thrown out of the window with Trump's executive orders and other changes as well. IRS sharing data with ice, names, addresses, that sort of thing. There's also Medicaid patients data being shared with ICE as well, so they can track those people down. And what I keep seeing is that every time I see ICE buying data or accessing data, they want to get the addresses because they want to figure out, well, can we send agents here? And ICE will go to all of these very novel sources of information. So there's this database that I don't think anybody in the country has really heard of. I hadn't heard of it until recently. It's called ISO Claim Search. And there's this massive database that basically includes 90 something percent of medical insurance claims, and that includes your personal data, like your address. So ICE has gained access to that as well.
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Al Letson
You spoke about the face scanning app, the mobile fortify. We heard from a number of Chicagoans that ICE agents approach them, no warrant, no reason, scan their faces on the street. Can you tell me about how this app is used?
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Joseph Cox
So I've seen videos of Border Patrol and ICE officials scanning people's faces. In one case, it is somebody who looks like they're in the driver's seat of their vehicle and they don't want to be identified. They say they're American and they're on the way to work. The official then points the camera in their face and says, hey, this will be quicker if you could take your hat off. They're clearly performing a facial recognition scan on this person. And in Another case, there are two young men on BMXs or bikes. They're stopped by some federal officials. And when one of the boys says, oh, I don't have my ID on me, one of the officials says, well, can we do facial? An obvious reference again to using facial recognition technology. And behind the scenes, if they're using the mobile Fortify app, it is then querying this massive database of something like 200 million images from Customs and Border Protection to near instantly figure out who this person is, their date of birth, other personal data, and whether they should be removed from the country. And I think one of the most noteworthy things I've been told, and this was given to lawmakers, then told to me, is that ICE believes that a result from this app is the definitive piece of proof about someone's status and overrides a birth certificate. So they will trust the results of this app. Again, a facial recognition app. And we all know that facial recognition has racial bias. It can be inaccurate. They will trust that over a birth certificate.
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Al Letson
So can you refuse to let them scan you like you in the airport? You don't have to have your picture taken by dhs. Can you say no to this face scanning app?
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Joseph Cox
According to an internal DHS document I got, it says ICE does not provide the opportunity for individuals to decline or consent to the collection and use of biometric data or photograph collection. In other words, ICE believes, no, you can't opt out. No, you can't refuse consent to have your face scanned like this. And that's not a law, that's not an executive order.
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Al Letson
What is ICE saying? That it doesn't actually mean that you have to abide by it. It's just ICE saying like, yeah, no, you can't do it.
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Joseph Cox
True, It's ICE saying it. I also don't know what would happen if you said, no, I'm not gonna have my face scanned off. Obviously, what's on a piece of paper is very different to what happens on the streets of Chicago or really anywhere else in the country.
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Al Letson
Based on your reporting, what do you make of these apps together? Is this just a tool with a little more high end technology that what law enforcement officials have always had access to? Or is this sign of something changing in how the US Government approaches immigration enforcement?
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Joseph Cox
I think there's been a fundamental shift in the United States where tools that were traditionally used and reserved for protecting the border have now been flipped inwards. And that same technology is being used dozens, hundreds of miles away from the border, inside American cities. And that change happened so so quickly, it's clear they were kicked into hyperdrive to build this app and get it out there on the streets. And I think that's clear by the timeline, and I think it's clear just by the documents themselves. I've seen where they're telling ICE officials, hey, here's this app. Please go out onto the streets and use it.
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Al Letson
You know, when I think about this, once the government steps over that line, it doesn't really go back. You know, like, these tools that are in place will most likely remain in place.
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Joseph Cox
I don't think I've ever seen surveillance technology trickle back. I've only ever seen it trickle down. I mean, it even goes to when we're flying MQ9 Predator drones across Afghanistan, Yemen and Iraq. Obviously, as a part of President Obama's drone warfare program, DHS now flies those same drones over American cities. We saw that recently with the anti ICE protests in Los Angeles. They don't build this technology, let it trickle down, and then put it back in its box. The technology is absolutely here to stay in some form. Maybe it changes ever so slightly, but it doesn't just disappear. No way.
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Al Letson
That was Joseph Cox, a reporter and co founder of 404 Media. We reached out to a lot of folks for this story who did not get back to us, including the Department of Homeland Security, Motorola, and Thomson Reuters. We did get a response from the company that runs ISO Claim Search, that big database of insurance claims that Joseph mentioned. They told us they don't have contracts with DHS or ice, but they acknowledged that law enforcement does have access to their databases. A few weeks after my conversation with Joseph, a Federal court blocked ICE's sharing agreement with the IRS. And in August, another court blocked the Department of Health and Human Services from sharing information with ice. But that was after the agency had already given over information for 79 million Medicaid enrollees. It's been a few months since Operation Midway Blitz began. Border Patrol Chief Gregory Bovino is gone now, but there are still federal agents in the Chicagoland area, and they are still detaining people. Bovino is off to the next stops on the government's deportation. New Orleans, Minneapolis, Charlotte. And the data from all the raids across the country say the same thing. Overwhelmingly, they are detaining immigrants with no criminal record, which isn't surprising because historically, immigrants are less likely to commit crime. But that fact doesn't fit into President Trump's narrative of America. At some point, this push will end, and we, the American people, will have to deal with the costs, the loss of over a million people and counting, the construction of a huge surveillance apparatus and the militarization of our neighborhoods. Reporting for this week's show came from me, Ashley Kleek, Southside Weekly's Alma Campos and Jim Daly. We also had editorial support from Adam Chabu from Southside Weekly and Morgan Elise Johnson from the Tribe. Our lead producer for this week's show is Ashley Kleek. Jenny Costas edited the show. Artist Cheriskis is our fact checker. He had help from Sarah Solagi. Victoria Baranetsky is our general. Our production manager is the great Zulema Cobb. Score and sound designed by the dynamic duo Jay Breezy, Mr. Jim Briggs and Fernando My Man Yo Arruda. They also had help from Claire C. Note Mullen. Taki Telenides is our deputy executive producer. Our executive producer is Bret Myers. Our theme music is by Camerado Lightning. Support for reveals provided by the Riva and David Logan foundation, the John D. And Catherine T. MacArthur foundation, the Jonathan Logan Fish Family foundation, the Robert Wood Johnson foundation, the park foundation, the Schmidt Family foundation and the Hellman Foundation. Support for reveal is also provided by you our listeners. We are a co production of the center for Investigative Reporting and prx. I'm Al Edson and remember, there is always more to the story.
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Ashley Kleek
Foreign.
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Al Letson
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