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Episode: Resilience in Sales Leadership: Steve Garraty's Journey from Cancer Survivor to Successful Leader
Podcast Hosts: John Kaplan (Co-Founder, Force Management) & John McMahon (Five-time CRO, Author)
Guest: Steve Garrity
Date: October 2, 2025

Overview

This episode features an in-depth, heartfelt conversation with Steve Garrity—cancer survivor, tech sales leader, coach, and author of "Great Fruit." Hosts John Kaplan and John McMahon guide listeners through Steve’s remarkable journey from a turbulent youth and life-threatening illness to resilience-fueled success in sales leadership. The discussion explores how personal adversity can lay the foundation for empathy, leadership, and transformational perspective—not only in life, but in business.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Steve Garrity’s Background and Turning Point

• [02:31-07:53] Steve recounts his early life trajectory—a youth dominated by partying, reckless decisions, and inverted priorities.
• Diagnosis: At 18, right after high school graduation, he is diagnosed with cancer on July 4, 1986, upending all plans and priorities.

  “My priorities were out of whack, obviously, if that was my biggest concern.” — Steve Garrity [12:56]

2. Experiencing Cancer as a Young Adult

• [10:36-16:49] Steve speaks candidly about years of substance abuse and the role he believes this played in his illness.
• The Year of Treatment: Steve describes the physical and emotional toll—repeated chemotherapy, side effects, social isolation, and the fracturing of friendships.

  "It was a year of hell. It was pretty tough. I'd say the worst part, though, was the mental part, like having to get in the car and drive down for another session..." [16:49]

• The Rock Bottom Moment: Steve shares a pivotal story set in a hospital parking garage, rock bottom emotionally, and how a moment of prayer and support from his mother helped him persist.

  "I just had a breakdown... I was down there for about an hour... Eventually I started feeling a sense of something greater." [18:28]

3. Isolating and Relationships Reconsidered

• [21:01-32:06] Most friends drifted away after diagnosis. Only a couple stuck around, which led to a profound realization of true relationships and their importance over time.

  "You got a really early onset of... who your friends are." — John McMahon [31:38]

• Maintaining Connections: Steve consciously maintains relationships, organizing reunions, keeping up through social media, and nurturing a wide network long after initial encounters.

4. Growth and Perspective from Adversity

• [22:46-27:15] Steve describes how, over decades, he reframed cancer as the best thing that happened to him—forcing a new perspective of gratitude, appreciation, and empathy.

  “It made me appreciate my wife. It made me appreciate my kids. I saw what my parents went through. I'd say empathy is something that really was strengthened...” [25:10]

• Empathy in Leadership: His approach to leadership centers on helping others achieve their goals—even if that means letting the best people move on.

5. Owning and Sharing Your Story in Sales Leadership

• [34:53-38:53] Anecdote about a grueling PTC interview where Garrity, previously reticent to mention his health history, told his cancer story to prove his grit after being told, “I don’t think you’re tough enough for this job.”

  "...if you still don't think I'm tough enough, I don't know what to tell you, but I would argue I'm probably tougher than most of your sales organization." — Steve Garrity [37:03]

6. Mindset, Visualization, and Recovery

• [47:22-51:29] The role of mindset in recovery and life success is discussed; Steve credits the book "Getting Well Again" and actively used visualization techniques to aid his mindset and healing.

  “Visualization was a big one I used and still use today... I'd go jogging, and I would think about my bad cancer cells being Darth Vader and my good cancer cells being Luke Skywalker.” [49:55]

7. The Impact of Adversity on Sales Career and Leadership

• [55:24-58:02] Steve outlines how empathy, gratitude, and resilience, forged in adversity, have shaped his sales and leadership style.

  "If your listeners don't do that... think about what's the worst thing you've been through. Maybe it's not cancer, but... 95% of what you're experiencing today doesn't compare to that." [57:16]

8. Advice for Listeners: Navigating and Supporting Through Hardship

• [58:02-60:46]
  • For those enduring hardship: Focus on the present and have faith that things will get better; use visualization techniques to imagine life beyond the current struggle.
  • For those supporting others: Sometimes the most profound support is simply being present and listening, not necessarily offering solutions.

  "Sometimes people handle stuff like that differently. They may want to talk about it, they may not. But I think you can be the best friend … by just being there and listening.” [60:08]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Resilience:

  “I went from victim to victor, from asking 'why me?' to 'why not me?'” — John Kaplan sharing Steve’s journey [01:17]

• On Perspective:

  “Perspective is what…gave me a perspective that every day is a gift…I’m up to…14,250 days since…he told me that.” — Steve Garrity [25:10]

• On Leadership:

  “If your heart’s in the right place, that’s why that principle is important to me. I want to help people get to where they want to be…even if that means I’m going to lose them.” — Steve Garrity [27:15]

• On Social Support:

  "The quality of your relationships have more to do with how long you're going to live and how well you live than any other factor." — John McMahon [33:19]

• On Mindset and Healing:

  “People with a glass half full mindset would do much better in all these studies that they did…thinking positively, I controlled that. I was in charge of that.” — Steve Garrity [47:50]

Significant Timestamps

• Steve’s diagnosis and teenage years: [06:45-14:39]
• Rock bottom in the parking garage: [18:28-20:05]
• Reflection on friendships and true relationships: [21:10-32:06]
• The PTC job interview story—proving toughness: [34:53-38:53]
• Journaling, writing process, and book development: [39:50-47:22]
• Mindset and visualization in healing: [47:22-51:29]
• Impact on sales and leadership style: [55:24-58:02]
• Advice for those facing- or supporting someone through-adversity: [58:02-62:57]

Resources & Further Information

• Steve Garrity’s Book:
  "Great Fruit" (Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc.)
• Steve Garrity’s Website:
  stevegarrity.com
• Visualization/Resilience References:
  • "Getting Well Again"
  • "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl
  • Stoic principles & logotherapy (referenced in discussion)

Tone & Language

The episode maintains an authentic, honest, and conversational tone. Steve’s raw sharing, coupled with the hosts’ respectful prompts and their own candor about adversity, keeps the dialogue both deeply personal and universally applicable. The atmosphere is supportive and occasionally humorous, always focused on drawing practical leadership and life lessons from real struggle.

In sum:
This episode is a rich, motivational exploration of how hardship can become the ultimate leadership training ground, how resilience and empathy are forged, and why sharing—and owning—your story matters in life, sales, and leading others.