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BB27 Final 4 Episode Recap
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Today, Taran Armstrong is joined by Chantele Francis and Maggie Morgan to discuss the Thursday eviction episode of Big Brother 27.
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Hello everyone and welcome to Rob Has a Podcast. I'm your host Darren Armstrong and we are here tonight on a Thursday night for the Final four Eviction episode recap and with me to talk through the eviction we just saw. It's Maggie. How you doing, Maggie?
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C
Hi, Taryn. I'm good. I just. I actually got, like, a. A dm. I feel like I shouldn't have gotten it. That was saying that, like, Chantal was going to be on the podcast tonight, and I think that.
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D
Maggie.
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Maggie. We're live.
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D
We're live. Yeah.
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C
Oh, I'm good.
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A
Well, Chantel is, in fact, here. I don't know how Maggie knew, but Chantel is also joining. How are you doing?
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D
I'm doing great. That was my favorite part of the episode, and I had to wait through the entire thing to get there. But obviously, I love talking big brother with you both. So happy. This is probably my last one, and.
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A
Yeah.
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D
Well, let's do it.
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A
Let's do it. Indeed. Of course, we did see in this episode, alternate Ava was evicted by Vince the lips vote. Vinnie the lips vote. We got a lot of stuff in this episode. We got a Keanu interview. We had an HOH competition, a nomination ceremony, a veto competition, a veto ceremony, and a live eviction, plus then an Ava interview. So plenty to talk about. But let's just. Let's just start with what was the probably wildest part of the night, what Maggie was just referencing. So we get this as soon as Ava leaves the house. Yeah.
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C
I had accidentally received a message I shouldn't have about a girl named Ava being an alternate.
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I think we're still alive.
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C
Yeah.
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Right? I think we are.
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D
That is too good. So good.
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C
Also, I feel like it's the perfect, perfect encapsulation of just like Morgan and Vince. And they're like, taryn's been saying it for days now. Like, why don't you just say stuff you don't want on the feeds during the music in the morning? You just can't help yourself. You have to spill all your secrets when you're literally live.
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A
Which. Which is the thing, because if anyone wants further clarification on this, this is something she has alluded to on the feeds but didn't want to say out loud because she would get in trouble for it. And so she literally waited until the moment Ava left the house. And I apparently thought this was a great opportunity to now spill the secret. So she has been talking about how she suspects that Ava is the accomplice and she had secret production reasons why she felt that that was the case. So we now have further clarif notification that she got a text about a girl named Ava who was an alternate for the season, and she believes that Ava being an alternate points to her very likely being the accomplice. And add that to the fact that we saw in during Ava's exit interview that Ava actually held a house meeting today to call out Vinnie. I'm betting that the context with which she brought this up as soon as Ava left the house was the fact that she had just done this big call out house meeting. And Vinnie was probably like, I don't even know what she's talking about. And she's probably like, well, maybe this was like one more accomplice thing she had to do. I have a reason to think she's the accomplice. I'll wait. We'll wait to tell you though. I'll have to wait to tell you. And then as soon as she left, walked out the door, she was like, so. So this is why I thought she was the accomplice. And then they go, I think we're still alive now.
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D
Do you think it could be possible that the text said Amy and not. And it just, you know, she's mind morphed it?
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A
I, I think she probably wasn't an alternate. Not the accomplice, obviously, but she. It probably was just that she was an alternate. They screwed up and they sent Morgan a text about Ava.
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D
It's wild that she would get the text though, unless you would talk about it during the show at all. Like, I don't know, it's just not something I'd probably bring up.
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C
I also think, like, if that's true, Taran and Vince is like, I don't know what she's talking about. And Morgan's like, well, it probably has to do it. And she has this long convoluted story in her head rather than just being like, yeah, Vince probably said that to Ava. Like, what are we doing here? Like, what are we doing here, Morgan? Come on. My ultimate crash out girl.
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A
Like, Taylor just needs to talk to you and explain that it's exactly what anybody else would have done. Okay. If Taylor will explain it to you.
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C
Oh my gosh. Jesus. I mean, look, I. The thing is about Morgan is that like her crash outs are always about something that like you, there's really no reason to crash out about it. Like she. But there is reason to crash out in general. But like the specific thing that she's focused on is not really like the heart of the issue. So I. If this tells us anything, like tonight at tomorrow morning, Darren, you're going to be recapping how in bed they were talking about how Morgan's really in her Head about the fact that she said that Ava said she wouldn't want to talk to Vinnie ever again after this and that he wouldn't contact her, like. And that will be what the Crash out is about.
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Well, before we get any further, of course, I want to let you all know that today's podcast. Tonight's podcast is brought to you by Pluto tv, of course, where you can watch the feeds for free. So make sure you check out Pluto tv. We'll talk more about it later. But, yeah, I mean, wild stuff about the. I cannot believe they weren't, like, on the button because they didn't even cut, like, after the fact either. Just, like, let it hang out.
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C
And Morgan was silent. She was just, like.
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Right over here. Yeah.
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C
I had accidentally received a message I shouldn't have about a girl named Ava being an alternate.
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I think we're still alive.
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C
Oh, you're right. I think we are. Oh.
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A
Oh.
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C
Oh.
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A
We had two different interviews by Julie. The first one was Keanu. The second one, of course, being Ava. I guess we're on Ava already. We should talk a little more about her. We did see so on the feeds today, Ava was planning this call out, including, don't do it for a man. What he wouldn't do for you. And she. She. She rehearsed that with Ashley. So it's very funny to watch Ashley act surprised that she said it, but she had been planning this thing. The feeds went down, and we didn't get to see it. And so I was wondering if we would. We do have a little bit of precedent for this in Big Brother 21, when Jackson and Tommy got into it. I do believe we saw a bit from the post feeds shut down in the episode that same night. However, it seemed like they were going to skip past it. Instead, they did something that I thought was actually pretty clever, which is they waited for her exit interview to. To put it in there because it revealed that she knew she was leaving, which, you know, would have spoiled the eviction, theoretically, and was something they could ask her directly about. And it's not something they had to slot into the normal edit. They could just interrupt her interview time, which.
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You know, thank you.
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So I thought this was very fun. We get to see this house meeting stuff. And basically what happened was Vinnie had been stringing Ava along all week, as he does, for no particular reason, saying he's absolutely willing to. This is what. This is what I need to do in order to. To differentiate my game from Morgan is I need to do something on my own, you know, Play my own game for once, Ava. I mean, I need to keep you and get rid of Ashley. And then she keeps coming back and asking, like, so are we doing this? What are we doing? He's like, you know, I just need to think about it a little bit, you know? And then today, finally, he was like, yeah, I just think that I can't evict Ashley because I need to take her to the final two because she's the only one I can beat if the jury's not bitter. And so Ash. So Ava, upon hearing this, was like, all right, you know what? Screw it. If I'm gonna go down, I'm gonna try to take Vince down with me, and I'm gonna tell Morgan everything that he's been saying. And so that was what led to that house.
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C
Good girl, Ava. Good girl, Ava.
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D
But it took, like, 80 days for her to, like, start doing something active when she's already dead in the water. It's just so frustrating. I wish that she was just playing the game at all, like, even, like, 10% of what she gave us the last day.
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C
Chantal, I have an unpopular opinion that people aren't going to, like, she has.
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Been playing this whole time.
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C
I mean, I think that she floated like she was playing be playing a floater game. I do. I. I think that you can absolutely say that. But I actually. I've always thought that she played a pretty classic floater game, and the only reason the audience really soured on her is because of all her crap talking Rachel after the elimination. But I always felt like the reason that she did that, like, her logic for that was kind of sound for the game that she was playing and wanting to kind of pass off the blame on someone else. I don't. I don't like what happened. I don't think that it ended up working out for her in the end. I think that she needed to have been more active in her floating. But I do think she played a very classic floater game. In order to play a good and winning floater game, you have to have, you know, you have to be way.
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D
More she intentionary game. So I don't know if it could be a classic floater game. Like, she wasn't doing that. She was just doing nothing and just coasting by, I would say, intentionally floating.
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C
I think that you could say that Ava, like, sort of, like, was riding the line of floater versus coaster for sure. But I do think that if I had to make it, if I was her lawyer, I could come up actually with a case for her that she did play a floater game. I'm sorry, everybody. I was just like a super down. I object. No. I know this is a no basis, your honor, but I felt it this whole time. I've been like, I know people aren't liking Ava personally because of, like, how she soured on everybody, but I. I actually don't think that, like, Like, I. I do see what she was trying to do. I don't know.
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I. I'm with you, Maggie.
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C
Okay. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. I have someone defending me.
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A
Here's the thing. Here' Ava did. She tried hard this week. She was pulling Vince into rooms, like, as often as possible and trying to keep it a secret as much as possible. Trying everything she had in her toolbox. She was threatening jury votes. She was saying, if you keep me one more round, I will guarantee you myself and will as jury votes. Like, she was pulling anything out of the bag she could. Was it effective? Obviously not, but she was trying. And she did have moments earlier on in the season as well where she was doing well at various points. Here's the thing, though. I agree, Maggie, that she is ultimately a floater. But I think the frustration came not only from the. The. The Rachel stuff, but also because when things started to not go her way, she threw a fit and gave up for a while.
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C
Yes.
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A
And blamed it on the nature of the game and how everyone's a snake in here and they're all fake. And she just kind of like, throw over the. The game board and. And. And went home to her bed and just like, laid around for a while, having given up. And it wasn't until recently that she started being like, wait, should I try again? And so I think that's where the confusion comes in, because a lot of the, like, more recent perspective on Ava comes from that period of time where she really did just kind of flip over the game board and complain constantly. But I can see also, Maggie, where you're coming from definitely earlier on in the season. And I would even say this week, she really. She fought a lot harder than a lot of people do at the final four in. In a. In better spots than she's been in. So I. You definitely have to give her.
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C
Yeah. I mean, look, I'm not saying that she was an amazing player or she would. Like. I'm not, like, here. I'm not an Ava Stan by any means, but I do. I. I have.
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D
She was floating.
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Yeah.
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C
I feel like she actually was intentional with what she was doing a lot of the time. And I do. I agree with what you're saying, Taryn. She did give up for a while and did go to bed for several weeks and was like, this sucks. I don't want to be here anymore, basically. But I also do. Like, I think that those were those weeks, but before and after, like, she. She knew how to play a good floater game.
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A
She dog walked Vince on multiple votes early season. Like, genuine.
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C
I'm sorry. Game recognizes. I can see what she was trying to do. It didn't work out for her because she had no follow through. And that's. That's the thing. Like, people think that floating is the easy way to win. Like, people think that that's like an easy way to play. That's an incredibly hard way to play. It's like one of the hardest ways to win Big Brother in my opinion, because of situations like this, because it is really hard to maintain a floater game the entire season. And like, I'm not saying that she was talented enough at Big Brother and being a floater to have won. I am just saying that let's not act like she was doing nothing. That's it.
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D
And I guess what I'm saying is that I wish that the action that she's put in this week she's trickled in a little bit more in the priests, like earlier season part of the season. Because I think that she could have had things maybe go in her favor a little bit better now. Like, she's kind of was dead in the water at this time when she's trying to make things happen. And she had a lot more agency and a lot more numbers that she could be pulling in a lot more people that are willing to work with her that she was. Was voting with that she didn't really utilize her opportunities for being in a good position as a floater.
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A
And ultimately her game crashes and burns at the white locust. Right. And. And that's true of a lot of people's games and a lot of it not super fair. But. But Ava is one of the few people you can sort of blame for her own outcome. You know, there's a. Absolutely. A world where she does. Does choose Rachel first and Rachel still leaves. But the fact that she chose Vinnie should have led to a Rachel eviction if not for the strong game. Rachel had to have Morgan get in there and then pick her, which should have saved her. And so you can absolutely blame Ava for tanking her game because not only did she indirectly cause Rachel's eviction or could have caused Rachel's eviction. But even on top of that, it was her complaining about it afterward that really sunk her because she was like, oh no. Ah. They were trying to talk to me about game, get out of my face. And she just had that attitude that you know, take my ball and go home attitude for so long that she lost all of her actual like ins. She's the only place she had left to go was with Lauren and Kelly Kelly. And that didn't work out very well because she had no, no sway anywhere else at that point. So, you know, I do think she is over criticized as a player at the moment, but it's not like there's a ton that she.
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C
I, I also think like the way low locust stuff, like if she was a talented floater, she would have had the foresight to understand that picking Vince in that mom not the move but because she was just like basic level BB floater. She was like, I'm not gonna, I don't want to get blamed for any of this. So who can take the blame for this? Great, I'll throw it on Vince. Like, I understand that logic. It was not the correct logic but people who are like, and why would she do that? Like she explained it in the episode. She explained why she did it. It wasn't the right choice for her but like I, I, I think but.
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D
Almost anybody other than Vince would have been a better choice for her.
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A
Which is what'?
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C
Only one who raised his hand. He's the one who raised his hand in that moment and wasn't like, I, I don't know. I, maybe, maybe I am going to now sound like an Ava, too much of an Ava defender. But like that is just my perspective. This, the back half of this season is like I think that we have short memories and forget that like she's the reason Riley got voted out. She was the swing vote there. Like she was one of the swing votes. She's the reason that they didn't, that Vincent Zach didn't vote out. Who was it in like three? Yeah, Adrian. Like it was. Yeah, that, that is like she was doing stuff. I, I don't know. That's my thought.
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A
Well, she does get this interview. I don't want to be too mean, but like it was a little funny to me that she was trying to do a Kelly with the audience and they just weren't, they just weren't coming along. But, but there was one moment in this interview that I really enjoyed which was Julie saying, let's look at your goodbye messages and Ava going, oh, okay. And turning her head in the complete, like at the screen. Like, you know how they show pictures of them as they walk out that she's like turning her face to that screen and Julie has to go right over here.
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D
Yeah. She's never seen the show.
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A
Over my shoulder.
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D
Right over here.
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A
Over my shoulder.
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C
It's gonna be so overwhelming to sit out there.
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A
Oh, man. I liked it. I thought it was fun. So we saw two separate sets of goodbye messages, of course, but they were all pretty similar. It was a lot of Morgan being like, so I've been working in this alliance called the judges and then also saying something nice about the person. And then Vince being like, I was working in an alliance called the judges. And then Ashley being like, I'm sorry, I, you know, I've been working with some people. I've been doing my thing. And you had to go, I. I'm sorry. And. And I think it's very funny because Vince is basically doing exactly what Morgan is telling him to do if with his goodbye messages, which is like, all the judges will explain everything. It will justify every move you've made. It will. It will explain everything away. And he. And like, I didn't really think he was buying that, but his goodbye messages are telling me he is. That he's like, so you thought that I was playing Morgan's game, but really I've been in an alliance called the judges with all of Morgan's allies and keeping them safe. That's why I'm playing Morgan's game.
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C
Morgan is too much. Her being like, the judges will explain, like, it's just so good. It's.
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D
But like, I get it though. But you'd think that he would still sprinkle in a little bit of ways that he was connecting with these people and so that he would favored more than the other judges would be.
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A
But no, you would think wouldn't lie to Ava until hours before the eviction. Because why. But it is. It is as Vince's. We also got goodbye messages for Keanu. So I want to talk about Keanu's interview as well. Keanu's interview, very interesting to me because he's been to the jury house and has come back. And so assuming this is the first time he's seeing these goodbye messages, that has a significant impact on the way he's viewing them. Because when Morgan and Vince are telling him about the judges alliance, he's stone faced. He knows already. He's been told in the jury house. They are not the first people to tell him. And I don't think that's something that, as a player, you could have possibly anticipated. You expect the goodbye messages to be shown to you immediately after you're evicted, which is not always the case. And you shouldn't assume that. You should not be relying on goodbye messages to convey any information because you are not in control of the goodbye messages. They cut your goodbye messages to what they want them to be. So if you have important information or a way to sell a story that you need to tell to somebody, it does have to be prior to their eviction, which is very difficult, obviously, because they can use it against you. But it's why it's really important if you do have those opportunities to sell those stories and if you have an ally who knows they're going home to give them information to convey to other jury members that you might not have been able to in goodbye messages. And on top of that, we are now seeing in this spot, they specifically said, we are not going to tell Ava about the judges until after she leaves in the goodbye messages. Obviously, this works for Ava because they are the ones to reveal it to Ava, but it did not work to Keanu. Rachel and Will were the ones, I assume, who were able to tell Keanu about the judges and their perspective on that alliance is what he believes to be true now, not the one that, you know, they tried to give him in goodbye messages.
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C
Yeah, and. Go ahead, Chantal.
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D
No, I was just gonna say. So you don't think that they would have showed him the goodbye messages then maybe taking them off to the jury house and then he's pretending to see them for the first time Live tonight.
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A
Possible. But, like, why would you do that? Why would you film him reacting for the first time and then not show it and then film him reacting for a second time and show that one? You know what I mean?
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D
It's just. It's just odd. But I guess, like, yeah, we can't expect to have the regular pattern.
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C
And I do. I do agree with you, Taryn. Like, if you're on the show, you can't rely on that because, like, I actually. I don't love that that Keanu went to the jury house and, like, this is the first time he's seen the goodbye messages. But also, like, I. I'm not like, oh, Big Brother production. How could you do that to the contest? Like, that's just like. So it's not like, a common function of the game where, like, you get voted out, you have a vote, you have a veto. You know what I mean? It's not like in the game rules that, like, you leave and sit down and immediately see your goodbye message.
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A
Also, like, even just thinking about it in these terms. Right. If Keanu were to see these goodbye messages first, and he's hearing from Vince and Morgan, hey, we've been in this alliance called the judges. You know, we've been playing this game the whole time. Then he goes to the jury house and he says, oh, they told me about the judges. And they go, oh, they told you about that? Yeah, that was the whole thing. We started it the week that, you know, Riley was on the block and, you know, it was me and Ashley that did it. Like, that's one way of learning that information. The other way of learning that information is Will Kiana goes to the jury house and he talks to Will and. And Rachel. They say, oh, we were in this thing called the judges alliance. Obviously, that's broken because two of us are gone. But Will says, yeah, Ashley and I made it to try to keep Morgan safe against Riley. Basically, like, we made this alliance. And then Keanu goes to this interview and he hears Morgan and Vince proudly proclaim, we've been in this alliance called the judges. And now it kind of feels like, wow, okay, Ashley, like, you really, like, you know, order of operations does kind of matter potentially. I also thought it was interesting that in Ashley's goodbye message, she says, it's not, you know, a coincidence that I'm here. I've been working with basically everyone else in the house, followed by them being like, we're in the judges alliance, Which I thought was, again, a good order of operations for her in that sense. What I thought was worth noting was he did not along to Ashley, saying that could mean absolutely nothing. You often just nod along by default. But knowing that he's been in the jury house, you can't help but try to pick up any kind of breadcrumbs. This could be an indication that along with his exit interviews that did speak fairly highly about Ashley's game and her intelligence that. That he is buying what she's selling in this goodbye message and that she does actually have at least a solid chance against a player like Vince, of course, which, you know, against Morgan, that's another story probably, but something I thought was interesting.
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C
I. I also want to say I think Vince might cut Morgan in the final based off of his Drs from tonight.
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A
Well, he did say. He did say in his doctor it will get us one step closer to sitting in the final two together.
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C
Yeah, but I. I mean, I don't Know, like, the way he was talking in the doctor, I was like, whoa. I never would have thought that he would have been saying that. Like, I'm like, morgan, use that. Ava, dog walk Vince in the votes. Morgan's been dog walking Vince for the past three weeks. Like, I thought there was no shot in heck, you know, that he was gonna cut her. And the way he was talking in the doctor, I was like, maybe he will. I don't know.
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A
I mean, he couldn't joke. And I lose $750,000. All I did was joke about how Lauren, it would be a better alliance partner than Morgan or just as good.
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D
At the very least.
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A
All I did was joke about how I would be better off if Morgan wasn't here. It's just a bad joke.
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D
Well, do you know sometimes though, don't they get people to say both sides of, like, what happens? Like, I know in Drag Race they'll put different. The different winners, potential winners. So, like, nobody knows who actually won for spoiler wise. So could they be doing that the diary room getting him to say, like, oh, if this. I, you know, talk about this scenario and then talk about this particular scenario so it looks like it's authentically coming from him.
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A
I, I think, I think he, again, I think most likely he is taking her. Obviously there's always a chance that he doesn't. But, But I, I did think it was interesting that in his diary room during the final four veto, he specifically said, like, this will get us one step closer to. To sitting in the final two chairs together, as though that were the obvious goal. Now, I've said before, I think there's a very good chance that if he was planning to cut her, he would lie in the diary room and to the cameras about it. It. Because that's what he does. Because if he doesn't end up winning the final three, hoh, he doesn't want any evidence that he would have cut her because he will lie and say he never would have. But I do still think he plans to take her. But again, you just, you never really know.
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D
I mean, that would be insane. If he wants, like, a big moment.
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C
Chantel, that would be crazy. And I would not put it past him. He's diabolical. Like, it is crazy. It would be crazy.
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A
And then the question becomes like, does he even win after doing that?
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D
He wouldn't.
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A
You don't actually know. I don't think.
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C
No, I don't think so.
- [31:32]
D
Morgan might actually be furious and like, just like, out of spite, not vote for him.
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A
I Think Morgan would vote for him, you think? I think so. We saw this in the episode. Ashley has this conversation with Morgan right after the veto was won where she's hyping up the fact that she's a guaranteed win in the end. I detailed this in the update a couple days ago. It was a very impressive conversation from Ashley and really did get Morgan's mind spinning. In that conversation, Morgan agreed with the fundamental premise, which was that Ashley's a guaranteed beat and that it would be a smart thing to do to take her and that she would hope that if she did make that decision, Vince would understand because if he did the same to her, she would understand. And so I obviously, I think she'd be pissed. I think she'd be super hurt about it. And here's the thing too. We also have to consider the fact that if he does cut her, he will be lying to her up until the moment he does it. And that could make her pissed off even though she would have been fine with it otherwise. So that's worse worth considering as well.
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C
Oh my gosh. It would be netta and John 2.0. Like literally, they don't know who that is.
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A
2.0. If. If one of them was actually Sabrina.
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C
Yeah, okay. All right, all right. I see that.
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- [38:41]
C
He snuck Ellie in there and then was like, well, but also like, she didn't really betray me the way those guys.
- [38:50]
D
If only he knew. No, I think that it actually is. I agree that it's really. It's a little more interesting having perspective when you're coming and doing these interviews. It's kind of like even in Survivor, you know, like, I loved how they had. In three months they watched the whole season back and then they came and then they had the final time to like, talk about it and they could reflect on like, oh, what I understood what I knew and then they were hearing from. No, this is what really happened. I just, I agree it's a little more enriched conversation that you're having and it's. It's from like a more informed perspective. So I, I agree. I enjoyed it more than the regular after exit interview.
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A
Can I also rant for a moment? Yeah, of course. Julie's interview with Ava, when she asks a question, and I don't have the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of, like, Ava, you were really well liked in the house, played such an honest game, super popular. Do you think that's the reason why they evicted you?
- [39:48]
C
Objection. Leading the witness.
- [39:54]
A
Excuse me.
- [39:56]
D
Yeah, you should think that that would have been a flagged question.
- [39:59]
A
That's such a direct, like. Like, interference with current players in the house. Like. Like, what are we doing?
- [40:10]
D
Yeah, it's. It's wild.
- [40:12]
A
I don't think you'd get that question into her mind about why they evicted her. That helps confirm the reasons that they were saying to her, even though those weren't fully the reasons why they did it. It's weird.
- [40:27]
C
Can I rant about something?
- [40:30]
A
Yes.
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C
And it's not really, like, you know, we've been talking equitable comps. Equitable comps this whole season, talking about that. Morgan dominating this end game. These two competitions require the same skill set. For the record, a skill set that I know is the same because I don't have that skill set. You need to be able to look at something 3D, like, in your mind, rotate it, figure out the moves, like, that you may need to make before. The same ability that you have to. Have to be able to move around that dice in your head to know where it needs to land is the same skill you need to be able to complete a slide.
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A
Sorry, Maggie, you're just not a gamer, girl.
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C
And I'm. And I guess I'm not. I'm not good at coding. You know, there's a lot of. There's a lot of the skills in coding, and I would be terrible at both of those competitions. And it's no surprise to me that Morgan won both of those competitions because they require the same skill set. And I'm not, like, I. I truly. I. I'm not ranting and being like, it's unfair. Like, that's not how I feel. I'm just saying those are the same skill set. Like, they had two competitions back to back where, like, yes, it was a day's competition, but it was a slide puzzle.
- [41:51]
A
I really like that competition, though, like.
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D
Personally, because, a, I like slide puzzles, and, like, I like figuring out how to make that work. So I would say I enjoy that day's comp more than I enjoyed the cube. The cube was too physical, like, to make it that fun. But, yeah, I like the day's one.
- [42:08]
A
Literally the first round of the the cube comp jump. Ava had only just managed to tip to move her die one spot and she looked over and Morgan had finished.
- [42:27]
C
Wow. Relatable.
- [42:28]
A
Ava figured out the correct optimal strategy for moving the die. She was nowhere close. Like, like and, and it's not like Ava is Surrey or Felicia. You know what I mean? She's not like she's a 20something woman who is like perfectly capable of winning something that is like, like she's not like, like she could have won the slide puzzle. Like it's not like she couldn't have like whereas like if Felicia or Suri were competing at that slide puzzle, like let's be real. I don't care how well they know the puzzle or the days, they're still not beating Morgan or really anybody but like, but this, this, this die competition. Morgan was exhausted afterwards. She said it was extremely upper body heavy. It was clearly meant for Keanu who had been talking about this competition all season long and they decided to bring it back after like almost 10 years. And it's just like, like what this final four HOH used to be classic. Before or after you step up, you step down, you answer a question. Then sometimes it became a like a what the bleep. Also very fun. Also led to like a massive upset HOH when JC won in, in BB20, BB20. Like all kinds of fun final four upset HOHs. And that's, it's just it. What are we doing?
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C
They've done, they've done endurance comps for the final four HOH they did on BB11 it was the slip and slide they did in BB21 it was the spinning discs. Like they've done endurance for that. I, I, I don't want to say like me saying that these are the same skill set. Like clearly not because it was super physical. Like, like I, I want to give Morgan her flowers for this. Like she's awesome. She's freaking so badass. And like I, I really like props to her and I'm, I'm rooting for my girl. But like I, I just wanted to point out that like the, the physical part combined with the.
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D
Yeah, the moving things in space.
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C
Yeah, the 3D thing. Yeah.
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A
Well, I am complaining about the dice, especially on top of the fact that the previous few competitions were also very difficult. The previous HOH was holding up a heavy thing that used to be more equitable and is now not. It's the same problems all the time. There's a reason why every single season we're getting the same result, which is one or two competitors winning all of the competitions. I talk about the details of how that happens, but all you need to do is just look at the end result. If every single season the same thing is happening and it's the same three. I literally, like, it was like four weeks ago, I was on this podcast and I said, well, if it goes anything like the last four seasons, there will be three people or two or three people in left in the game that will win all of the rest of the competitions and it'll go, you know, Morgan, Vince, Keanu, Morgan. Vince, Keanu, Morgan. Morgan. Vince, Vince, Morgan, Morgan, Morgan. And then in this episode, Vinnie's like, how does this sound? Vince, Hoh. Morgan. Vince, Morgan. Morgan. Vince, Morgan. I'm like, yeah, that's how it always goes. It's how it just happens. And it's. It's pretty frustrating for me because I would love to see a wider variety of competition because I think it makes the game more interesting. Now, that said, I think that they have done something else that is good this season, which is truncate the final parts of the season. So even though the competitions have been won by all the same people, we don't have to sit in this mess. We don't have to sit in this moldy water for very long. And so it's not as bad. We get to wash it right off like Ashley did.
- [46:41]
D
But it would be really frustrating, though, if I was Ava and Ashley. Who are they? They're not, like, they're not crazy physical like Morgan is, but, like, they're. They're still in shape. And so I'd be like, man, like, if I didn't have these two super physical people or three physical people, like, with. With Keanu in the game, I might have a shot at this. And it just would be like kind of just defeating and deflating just to be like, yeah, chances are I can't win this game because the last 10 competitions are likely going to be something that somebody in the house is better at than I am. So, yeah, I feel bad for the contestants as well.
- [47:15]
C
Well, so listen to me. Clip this. Ready. Put this everywhere on social media. If you are going to play Big Brother and if you are not great at the competitions from the very first eviction, you need to be evicting people who can beat you in these competitions. You just need to. You need to.
- [47:39]
A
That should be your opportunity. Yeah.
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C
That should be your number one focus so that you have any chance when you get to the end, when you get to that end game that you have even a slight possibility. Like, if Ashley was able to be in the final four with Will, with Ava and with, like, even one other, like, and Rachel, like, yeah, like, there would be at least some shot that she would have to get that. You know what I mean? So I. I think that people just need to focus from the very beginning on who. Who is this person? Can they beat me in a competition? And like, yes, you want to al yourself with comp beast so you can all control the competitions if you're a comp beast, but if you're not, that is where your mind should be. From the very first, from the very second you walk into the house, you.
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D
Shouldn'T evict Amy then, right?
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C
No.
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A
Right.
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C
Never.
- [48:35]
A
Yes. You will feel like Sisyphus because it's an impossible task and you'll roll that boulder up a hill and then they'll go zombie week. He's not evicted. Or oh, blockbuster. But you have to try. You have to try.
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C
You just have to try. Yeah.
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A
All right. So we see the hoh. We see the veto competition. Veto competition. I think not as egregious as most. I do think that Morgan wins this primarily through her puzzle strategy more than her actual physicality. Starting at the ends, going to the middle. I don't know why anybody else did anything I else. The idea of, like, let me just put the ones that I know are in the beginning toward the beginning and the ones that are toward the end toward the end. It's like, what is the point of that? You just place it where it goes so that you don't have to go back to it and rearrange everything again. Like, that just didn't make any sense to me. So Morgan ends up crushing this one and. And she, of course, is going to not use the vita. Go. We do see. Ava's moldy water, as I mentioned, apparently has been there for 50 days.
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D
Has she not drinking any water in 50 days?
- [49:57]
A
Like, I didn't know that it was possible to mold water, but apparently all you need to do is stick a lemon in it and. And let it sit for 50 days. I would have been grossed out with no lemon, no mold. I would have been like, oh, this is 50 day old water. But, hey, I guess it needed mold, too.
- [50:16]
D
Well, you wouldn't have known it was 50 day old water if there wasn't any mold. Right.
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A
If I. If I had tasted it, I would have known.
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D
Would you have tasted it?
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C
Why would you have tasted that?
- [50:27]
A
If I opened it, I don't know, got in my mouth somehow. Like.
- [50:32]
C
It would.
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D
What would it taste like If I.
- [50:35]
A
Got 50 day old water on my sweatshirt? I wouldn't have cared about that. I would only care if I had to drink. Drink it.
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D
Yeah, I do very much care. What if like she like Ava drank a sip of that water, that moldy.
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A
Water.
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D
And I got like a little like that little furry like.
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C
Oh my God. Chantel Goodness.
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D
Ew.
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A
There's something. There was something so fun. I'm happy they showed this in the episode. Cuz there's something so funny to me about Ashley, like calmly walking to the kitchen as she screams. Just one of many things you can see on the live feeds if you watch on Pluto tv. Because of course this podcast is brought to you by Pluto tv, the exclusive free streaming platform for Big Brother live feeds. Streaming live feeds all season long. I feel like this episode at the end because they had extra time because apparently the Ava and interview didn't take as long as they thought it would. They had like so much time to just like linger on the final three as they were just like chatting and I was like, wow, look at the casuals getting to watch live feeds.
- [51:54]
D
And look at, look what they got. So they got a negative gold in there.
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A
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- [52:32]
D
I do like watching Pluto tv. It's actually pretty great. It's very helpful.
- [52:38]
C
Me too.
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A
All right, well, what else do we have in this episode? AA's speech. Vinnie, if there's anything you could do for me, it would be don't contact me. And then my favorite part of that was Ashley afterward being like, did you hear the audience laugh when she.
- [53:04]
C
It was funny.
- [53:07]
A
That was the biggest laugh she got all night.
- [53:12]
C
True 100. I think it was funny because she, she said it with her chest and she meant it. And then she like backtracked, you know, a little bit because I think she was like, that was kind of nuts of me. And then when she. But I. I never love it. Like my least favorite exit interview trope is when Julie's like, you said blah, blah, Blah. In the house. Did you mean it? And someone's like, no, I was just trying to make them sweat. Like, what, what do you mean? Like, what do you mean? Like you can just say it. You can say you meant it. You can say like, yeah, I'm pretty pissed at him. I don't want to talk to him right now. Like I, like it's on.
- [53:53]
A
It's kind of a leading question a little bit.
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C
Yeah.
- [53:56]
A
And like that, that I can excuse. I think it's fair to ask. But like the reason why I think people most of the time will say no is because if somebody says you said this, did you mean it? It's, it's all, it's very much like, is that your final answer? Are you sure you want to say that with your chest?
- [54:16]
C
And I felt like Vinnie was like shocked by that. He was like me.
- [54:25]
D
What?
- [54:25]
A
No, don't say that.
- [54:29]
D
I think he's realizing that his world is going to fall apart when he leaves that house. And it's just start like everybody leaving just hates him and hates him and hates him and he's not going to win. And he's probably lost the girl and probably lost Morgan. Especially knowing she her knowing that he doesn't have a job like downhill for him.
- [54:47]
A
I, I, I personally didn't hear any laughing. I don't know. Okay, fine.
- [54:57]
D
They were laughing jokes on me like it always is.
- [55:00]
C
Oh.
- [55:03]
A
Wow. So easy.
- [55:04]
D
Chantal, it's you though. It's you. Not actually Vince, it's you that I'm endeared to. Okay, it's you.
- [55:15]
A
Oh boy.
- [55:19]
C
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- [58:09]
C
But we'll see if I'm. Ashley, I'm moving my bed into that room where they're sleeping. I'm saying, guys, I don't want to.
- [58:18]
A
Be alone this last.
- [58:19]
C
These last three days. I'm gonna sleep in here with you guys.
- [58:22]
A
What are you doing with a pillow barrier? Just use me.
- [58:28]
C
Yeah. Literally, I would be like, guys. And I would be stuck to Morgan like glue.
- [58:34]
A
I would say she'd never get any sleep. Why is your hand going? What is happening?
- [58:41]
C
Stop. I would be.
- [58:42]
D
You know, if I were Morgan, I'd be getting that voodoo doll out or whatever, and I would be trying to give Vince another one of those groin cramps so that he wouldn't be able.
- [58:51]
A
To compete in the first.
- [58:55]
C
Oh, can I just say, Ow, my groin. Can I just say that edit of Taryn reenacting the groin.
- [59:09]
A
What do I do? Morgan.
- [59:19]
C
That video, that. That clip of you over Vince doing it, that was the biggest Vince ick for me of the entire season. Of the entire season. And I've watched that man straighten his hair every day.
- [59:36]
A
Okay, I will say, and maybe it is just me I, I pretty rarely laugh at my own like clips or content, I think because that wasn't strictly me. It was me like overlaid on top of Vince. I lost my mind watching. I watched it so many times. I thought it was so funny.
- [59:58]
C
It was, it was so funny.
- [60:03]
D
That's like the gem that came out of this season.
- [60:09]
C
Vinnie the Lip will live on in many a live feed update throughout the years. I feel.
- [60:16]
A
Listen, people years from now are gonna be like, this guy's weird. He keeps randomly doing a voice. I don't know why.
- [60:22]
D
He's just never leaving you tearing feel bad.
- [60:28]
C
There's this guy, there's this guy right now on TikTok and his whole brand is that he mimics Hugh Jackman and the way Hugh Jackman sings and it's like his whole thing right now. And I feel as though Taryn, like this season it's become the Vince impression has been lifted to the top because there's been very little gameplay for you to talk about. Usually it's like your hard hitting analysis and your thoughts about how the socio political climate is affected by the way that the house guests are interacting. But with this cast, our takeaway from Taran from the season is his Vince impression.
- [61:11]
A
It's pretty awesome. I did, I did retweet it blue sky and Twitter like a week or so. I don't remember how long. A couple weeks ago if you can try to find it that way. But it was, I, I thought it was very funny. All right, well, anything else from the episode that we should talk about? About?
- [61:34]
C
Can I say I thought this episode was long and a, a slog. I did. I was really waiting for a jury segment. I was really hopeful we would get one and it seems it's coming tomorrow, but really sad we didn't get one.
- [61:53]
A
Yeah, yeah. I mean it's my takeaway. I, I think it's inevitable because we, we had to go through two competitions. What I will say is I believe both competitions did play out in a single second segment rather than dragging them out to two segments. So that was very nice. But we did get two competitions so ultimately it was the same as if it had been one competition in two segments. But. But yeah, I mean I think they did fairly decently with the content they had. And, and like I said, I liked the Keanu interview and we got goodbye messages and, and we even got the house meeting.
- [62:31]
C
So while I was, I was happy about that.
- [62:34]
A
Yeah, while I was like a bit sleepy as I streamed myself watching this episode. I thought it was fine.
- [62:42]
D
Overall, yeah, it was fine. But considering it was so jam packed, I thought that it would be a little more exciting. You know, there was so much that was going on, and it was only fine.
- [62:51]
A
I mean, maybe if the competitions weren't both blowouts.
- [62:54]
D
Yeah, that's also very boring. Very boring. There's no, like, who's gonna win it? Like, okay, so. So Morgan's going to win both of those.
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A
Okay. And that was the thing too. Not to really harp on this, but, like, they have Morgan in the diary being like, this is by design that these are my competitors. It's like, yeah, designed by the producers and it's bad design because I don't know, it might just be me, but, like, I'm not looking to watch NBA players dunk on high schoolers. Like, that's not an entertaining game to me. Me, like, yeah, I would prefer to watch something that is a little more competitive over and over and over.
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C
I will say, and I'll be looking forward to this. When you do, like, Morgan's games retrospective.
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D
Are you still doing that? Is there one?
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C
Maybe. Maybe.
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A
I mean, well, I'm. Listen, if she wins, I'm sure we'll talk to her.
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D
Okay. Because, like, I remember, like, I stopped doing them a little while ago, but, like, you know, the final three and their gay breakdown or whatever, and I was, like, doing that.
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C
I was more talking about when she wins. But, like, I saw someone in the chat bring up that, you know, I was saying, like, you, if you are somebody who can't really win competitions, you need to be getting out those competitors early. Somebody pointed out that, like, that is what Morgan did. She started winning when she got rid of a lot of those really strong competitors. And I would be really interested, Like, I don't have that perspective right now to, like, really go back and look at those evictions and know really, like, what her thought process was there. But I do, like, yeah, I do think that if Riley was still in the house, I do think that if Zach was still in the house, I do think that if some of those competitors were still in the house, that, like, she would have a much harder time dominating these endgame competitions. So that's just an interesting perspective that I did want to bring up because I don't want to not give her credit for that.
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A
I mean, yeah, I don't mean to say that it wasn't her design. Also, like, like, ye. She designed, she obviously intentionally got rid of the. The other competitors. What I'm saying is that that is the design that the strategy that she used is one that the producers have laid out as the best way to win, which is get rid of the other competitors so that you just win everything in the end and you can't, you can't be beaten. And I personally don't think that is the most entertaining way to, to finish off a season of Big Brother. I think, think that it should be, it should be impossible to guarantee yourself a streak of end game wins because that's just not that interesting, especially if it happens season after season after season. But you can't knock it in terms of a strategy if it's available to you and you take it. Why wouldn't you? I would, absolutely.
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C
Yep.
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D
Absolutely. If I, if I knew that Sal was going to go down, I'd try to, to like make it so that a guy to have the best shot at winning all the end games. It kind of like Kevin Martin in, in Canada. He kind of broke the game over there, but at least it was a little bit more like days and stuff like that and understanding the different types.
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A
Of car he had to compete against Dimitri all the way through, which made that way more interesting. Absolutely, absolutely. But that's, I guess that's about about it then. And nothing else from the episode. Episode.
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C
I said my piece.
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D
I got nothing.
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A
We will be getting a jury segment tomorrow. Tomorrow night will be the recap of the recap and we'll get some jury segments. They also mentioned the round table host is now going to be Cody Califuri. And this will apparently, according to Sharon Tharp, be a rotating host every year now.
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D
Okay, rotating host, but like, I'm just not excited by him leading this conversation. But what can you do?
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A
Yeah, it's, I mean, obviously I want to see Taylor, but like, here's the thing. In terms of roundtable Hosts, it's been Dr. Will and Taylor. Now what I liked about both of them as roundtable host posts is that there's already an, an immense bias toward comp wins when it comes to jury voting. And having Dr. Will there, not that anybody actually knew who he was, but having Dr. Will there, even having Taylor there as representatives of like winners who did not win through comp wins alone. I personally liked and I, nobody, nobody has to agree with me on this, but I personally liked that as a small counterweight, a very tiny little counterweight to the idea that, well, if somebody won 10 competitions, I have to vote for them to win because, well, Taylor's sitting right there. And she's not saying that you need to account for other things other than competition wins. But her very presence is an example, a reminder that you can be a little more open minded about that sort of thing. I personally like that about the two of them as roundtable hosts. Cody being there, being, you know, he won eight competitions in the season that he won. He's known for being a comp beast doesn't provide that as much for me personally. I'm sure he's going to do great to be honest. I think he's, he's performs well when he, I personally think he performs well when he does these kinds of things. I think he's obviously a charismatic guy. I think he's going to do a great job hosting the round table. But that, that piece in particular is something that I, I will personally miss.
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C
I also like really do enjoy or what I really enjoyed about Dr. Will Always and Taylor did an absolutely incredible job last year. But what I enjoyed about Dr. Will was that he had won and had also been on a jury. And I think that like Cody is somebody who's played twice, won once but never served on a jury and I, I feel like even if you're gonna, if you wanna bring back a winner to do it like have Ian Terry come and do it, have Franzel come and do it, you know, have somebody who has experience voting for a winner in that way, that's just my thought on it.
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D
Yeah, that's a decent perspective because like I do would like a well rounded kind of, you know, winner to be, to be hosting the roundtable. I don't know if I guess like he, he's probably going to be charismatic, he's playing as decent question questions but yeah, having that perspective might just needle in some of, some of these other questions and some other perspectives and thoughts that he just doesn't have.
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A
All right, well that is what we have for you then tonight of course. I will be back tomorrow morning at 11am Eastern to update and everything that happens today or tonight. The feeds will likely come back once they complete part one of the final three HOA Rage. It is going to be as always, this, I mean this is something that has never changed although the physicality of it has very likely an endurance competition which you would have to assume is going to go to either Morgan or Vince and then we will be waiting on part two results. But I should hopefully have the result of part one. I think that if you want, if you want Vince and Morgan to both be competing in part three, you're gonna want Vince to win the endurance. That's his most likely chance win if you want Ashley to sneak in there, I think you're gonna want Morgan, obviously Ashley, but if not Ashley, you want Morgan to win this one. Because I think that Ashley versus Vince in part two will be a bit more even considering the kinds of competitions those are. So stay tuned for that. Of course, again tomorrow night we do have another episode which will include bits from part one of the final three hoh usually. As well as the recap, we'll have a jury segment as well. They stuck that in there, so you have to watch it. So I'll be streaming that live on Twitch, YouTube, Patreon, if you want to check that out. And plenty of other stuff happening tomorrow as well. Of course, the BBQ A that I will be doing with Rob for patrons of Rob has a podcast if you want to check that out. We'll be answering your questions. It'll be the final Q A of the season. And then of course we've been podcasting during this episode. It's still going.
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C
The Amazing Missing it.
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A
The Big Brother Amazing Race featuring Taylor, Tucker and Angela and more. As. As Julie said on the episode, I'd be so pissed if I were Chelsea.
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D
Chelsea Ravina.
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A
I only won my season that you're naming people from, but I have no idea if it's good or not yet because I haven't been watching. But hopefully it is. Tune in to the recap and find out what, what everyone thinks there with Rob, Mike and Jess. And it will also be starting after this ends or you know, shortly after the sense the the episode will end in about 15 minutes of when we're currently recording and then they'll do the podcast after that. Of course, Survivor premiered last night and Rob got with Stephen for the know it alls. If you have missed that, make sure you check it out and, and check out Steven's book while you're at it. Uh, we've been, we've been author Budd and I know he has put a lot of work and effort into it. So if you want to go and support him, check out what Stephen's doing with, with his book and of course the live shows. One in New York October 8th and the other in San Francisco November 5th. I will be at the one at. In San Francisco if you want to come and check out a Survivor live show. Tickets are available@rob's website.com events of course. This podcast was brought to you by Pluto tv and I, I think somebody, somebody was tweeting at me earlier today because the feeds went down for the Ava thing and they Were like tweeting at Pluto, like, hey, get the feeds back up. Pluto apparently replied, trying to tell me what to do. Like, Paul is wild.
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C
Which one of you runs that Pluto.
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D
Twitter account?
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C
I know it's one of you guys.
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A
I think that might have been the. What is it called?
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D
A bot.
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A
The other place.
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C
Oh, Blue sky.
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A
No, no, the. The other one.
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C
Twitter, Instagram, another one.
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A
We chat bcc. Than.
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C
How I know it's one of you guys. That's how I know.
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A
This is me, professional content creator. I know my social media is. Anyway, that's. That's all of that. Of course, as I mentioned before, check out my book behind the Mirror. It is about Big Brother. There's only so much. There's not. There's not much left in the Big Brother season. I've been saying this this week you're gonna find, forget this is. This is me helping you out. If you don't do it now and pre order now, you're gonna forget about it. And then by the time you remember, it's either not going to be a pre order and you're gonna be like, wow, I really did Taran dirty. I. I didn't do a pre order to help him out or B, you're gonna find out like next season and you're gonna be so far be. Everyone else is gonna have already read it and they're gonna be like, wow. Wow. You haven't read Taran's book. Are you a casual. Ooh, so. And check out the other stuff I'm doing. Maggie, what are you up to?
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C
Yeah, you can find me on Instagram Blue Sky, TikTok @mlmorgan underscore. You can keep up with me there.
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A
All right.
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D
And Chantal, you can find me at Champ on Instagram. And also I've been talking with Chappelle about Flavor of Love Season 2. We did go live today about episode two of season two on his channel recap kickback. So tune into that because it's a good time. I have never seen either of these scenes before. It's my first reaction to all of it, and it's fun.
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C
So, Chantel, I have been saying I really want to come and talk with you guys. Eight years old, watching that in my room.
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D
You have to.
- [75:40]
A
We will.
- [75:40]
D
We have. Let's do it.
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A
You're on.
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C
I'm. I'm in.
- [75:45]
A
All right, well, thank you all so much for joining us here today and we will see all the of you next time.
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C
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