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Taran Armstrong
The drama, all the strategy and silliness from VO2 HOH every single season you know he is the reason you know what's happening. Rob said that he could do it tomorrow. He will do it again. Hello everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for September 19th. I'm your host Tren Armstrong and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday the big brother 27 live feeds. It was day 73 in the house and we had a double eviction. We had an endurance competition on the feeds. We have a new ho h. We have plans for the week and maybe even plans for October. So with me to talk about it all is Puya. How you doing, Puya?
Puya
I am doing well, Taran. You know, we've had some, we've had some late nights here on the updates this season. Last night was no different, despite being at the final five. So while some people might think that's brutal, I think it's a bit of a victory because usually this is the sleepy time of the season for me.
Taran Armstrong
Yes. I mean, the thing is that we have learned kind of the structure of the end of the season now. And aside from the nonsense that was white locust, if that had just been a regular double eviction or even if they had just included some form of nomination vote out kind of thing, this is kind of what we've been asking for for a long time, which is truncate the end game doesn't always have to be in double eviction form. But, but basically this final five round is going to be a shorter and, and I say this is what we've been asking. This is what they used to do. This is just what they straight up used to do and they're doing it again. This is better in many, in many opinions, my own included, because this stage of the game tends to be a bit slower. There are fewer people in the game. Even if there is intense strategy going on. It's not happening for seven days at a time. It's happening for a few days at a time. And so we'll talk a little bit more about that as we continue. But of course, where we left off was Vince was the hoh. He had nominated Keanu, Kelly and Lauren for eviction and we were heading into the eviction that night with kind of a rock, paper, scissors situation when it comes to who's being evicted. If Kelly wins the blockbuster, it would be a tie vote between Keanu and Lauren and Vince was giving indications that he would be breaking the tie to evict Keanu. But would he actually have done that with Morgan staring him down? We'll never find. Out. If Keanu had won the blockbuster, him, Morgan and Ashley had been planning to evict Lauren over Kelly. And as we saw. We'll get to it. Lauren winning the blockbuster meant that it would be a tie where Vinnie would break the tie to evict Kelly. Despite promises to Kelly and Lauren that he would not do that. And so that's where we left off the night before. And the. The big thing was, is anything going to change in the lead up to the eviction? And the short answer is no. The long answer is that there were a bunch of conversations that didn't change anything.
Puya
Yeah. When with all the other. Without quickly Taryn. We get chopped from seven to five. Given that we know the result and everything's what it was, we can. I feel like we could move on, but we could also dive into it if need be.
Taran Armstrong
I think we can give a. A bit because there's not a ton after the double eviction either. It's mostly Lauren making a final campaign and a final threat. She really just lays into Vince. And when I say lay into him, like in the way that Lauren would, I was gonna say just so upset with you. And I hate to be harsh, but I feel like I'm being stepped on. And if I leave, I'm gonna tell everyone about our final two and that I was never gonna touch you because that is true. Morgan touches you and I wouldn't have done that. And she didn't say that. And she says if I go home because I was forgiving and trusted people, then I guess that's fine. But know that I go. Know that if I go, then that's it. You won't have my vote. And he's just like, yeah, okay, that's. I get it. That's understandable. Yeah.
Puya
I. This is the level of intensity someone on the block on the verge of going home potentially is giving. It's not a good thing. This is bad. I feel like where's the passion?
Taran Armstrong
And she gives a final pitch to both Morgan and Ashley and it's one of the worst pitches I've seen in a while. And I've been watching Kelly and Keanu all season. It's in mostly because she's taking the advice of Vince, who is a God awful pitcher. So it's like take Vince's strategic mind and Lauren's social delivery and you get maybe the worst player ever.
Puya
I don't know.
Taran Armstrong
We're close. She's pitching to Morgan. Hey, I'm not going to put Vince on the block. She re. She's doubling down on the argument that she got caught doing the day before, which was scripted to her by Vince. And. And. And is basically telling Morgan, I will be nominating you. Just not Morgan or just not Vince. And she doesn't really want to make any deals. She can't really promise anything. But she will say, if there's. If there is anything I can do to help you out, I will do it. Okay. You'll what? Hold my hand on the way to the block? Like, what is happening? What are you promising me? She says the same thing to Ashley. You know, I. And because Ashley's like, listen, bottom line is, I think I'm on your block, and especially if you're not targeting Vinnie. And she's like, well, not necessarily, because, you know Kelly. And also, I'm not gonna put up Ava. And you know, Ava is an ally of yours.
Puya
So.
Taran Armstrong
If there's anything I can do to help you out, just let me know.
Puya
Bad, Bad, Taryn. It's bad, bad. And. And you know how. And this might not make sense to anybody, might not even make sense to me, but I'm gonna try it anyway. You know how there's been, like, with the challenge or some other shows, there's like a. You have to be in the bottom to learn first of all, like, fight out. You got to dig out of the bottom to kind of. Okay, okay, hold on. Let me reset. Let me reset. Okay, so there was this one season of the challenge, and this is coming from someone who doesn't really watch the Challenge, so you'll understand why I'm butchering it where you. In order to qualify to be in the finals, you had to go into elimination, and you had to win an elimination, essentially, is what I'm trying to say. I feel like you can apply some of that logic to Big Brother, where if you've not been in a position where you have been in danger or you've had to play from the bottom or you've had to, you know, fight for your life early on. You don't learn those skill sets to bring to the end game. I feel like Lauren right now is playing like somebody who was on the block week two. Like, it's we're goddamn day. 70 to 71, 72. Like, this is where we are now. You are not playing with the intensity that you are that close to the end game at all. This pitch is bad. But also, I will say, you know, obviously, at the. When you're this close to the end, it's all lip service. Like, you could very much tell her everything she wants to hear, and she'd still be like, I don't trust it at all. But at least try that. Like when you're taught. When you're comparing her to Keanu and Kelly pitches. Those two were not fans of the show. Like that. Like, you have been so You. We expect you to have more polished answers. Right?
Taran Armstrong
I mean, listen, I firmly believe that if she had been willing to give Ashley genuine promises, There's a very real world. Because Ashley wasn't even wanting to. To evict Lauren at the start of the week. It was through Lauren repeating Vince's arguments that she realized she wanted Lauren to leave. And. And that's because, like, if Lauren is locked in with Ava and Kelly and she's still repeating Vince's lines, then I'm what, like, fifth on her list? Like, of course she would need to go. But there's a. Like, for Ashley, it made more sense to keep Lauren as long as Lauren was willing to work with Ashley. She just didn't even give her anything to work with. And Ashley absolutely could have flipped Morgan here. Morgan, in fact, just on this day was going to Ashley and being like, I don't know, maybe we shouldn't do it. And Ashley had to be like, no, we're doing this. Lauren is leaving. So, you know, what are you going to. And so Lauren also tells Vince, you know, I've been. I've been. This has been my dream since I was 7 years old, and you did this to me. And I'm like, no, Lauren, just like, he wasn't forced to do this by Morgan. You were not forced to let Vince do this to you. All season long. Imagine it being your dream to be there, and you decide that the way you want to participate in the game is to latch yourself onto the first hoh. A mustached man who is unemployed and will listen to anything his muscle mommy tells him to do. And. And you go, you know what? I'm happy that I was at least loyal.
Puya
Move on. Still at muscle mommy. I might not recover. Darren, please move us along.
Taran Armstrong
Anyway, so we get to the double eviction and things don't go well for Kelly because Lauren manages to win this. This blockbuster competition. And that, of course, means that Kelly is evicted. It's a tie vote. And. And Vince breaks the tie to evict Kelly. Burning. Burning Lauren in the process, by the way, because again, he had been promising Lauren that he would be. That he would be evicting Keanu here. This is. We talked about this last night on the recap that, like, this was a fun outcome because Lauren would be burned again. But then because Lauren just leaves in the next part of the double, it's like, well, there goes all the drama. But. But Kelly gone. That's it for Kelly, of course. Then we get into the next part of the double eviction. Morgan wins the hoh. Keanu wins the veto. Morgan was not throwing. She genuinely just couldn't do the math. I think on no sleep. And Keanu had. Keanu knew. I knew, bro. I knew ahead of time. Before Julie even finished reading the question. I wrote 1800 because I knew exactly what my answer was going to be. Let's ignore the fact that his answer was, like, way off. Yeah, but he knew. And this, of course, meant that Lauren is evicted from the. From the second part of the double eviction. And just like that, we have our final five.
Puya
And here's the thing. They're both out the house now, so it don't really matter. But I would be remiss if I didn't bring up the fact that I found, like, as annoying as Kelly has been, for me, there was a lot of personality in the. In the interview she was doing with Julie. And I initially, watching it live, I was just like, I'm annoyed. Why are they laughing so much? But then we got Lauren right after Taryn, and I was just like, lauren, this has been your dream to be on the show. You were talking to Julie. You made it to the final six. How are your answers still? I don't know. To half the things Julie is saying to you right now. You are. You're not in the game no more. Just say your thoughts.
Taran Armstrong
I could. I could. And I can't even give her the. The, like, grace of, like, oh, well, it's a double eviction. Things were happening really quickly. She didn't know that she was gonna be. She was. She was prepared. She was on the block before. She was prepared to be evicted before. And so, like, you know, oh, what are we doing? So, yeah, I don't know. It's these. These people that. I mean, I talked about this whole thing about lying and integrity in the house, and it's these people that go into the game and they're like, they. They. They decide that they're just better than the game and better than the other people that are playing the game and they don't want to participate in that portion of it. And listen, I'm fine for Lauren to not be a trash talker. I thought it was. I. I thought, like, she was, like, very sweet when she was, like, struggling to say mean things about people. I think that's a good quality to have. But you also need to play the game and to take a moral high ground on lying and being like, well, you know, it's. It's. I trusted people, like, yeah, but. But why. Why did you trust those people because they certainly didn't do anything to earn it. So what made you trust those people and not other people? Lauren maybe that's something that you should be thinking about in the jury house.
Puya
There we go.
Taran Armstrong
So here we are, final five. And I didn't make a specific graphic.
Puya
For this because how will we know? Taran.
Taran Armstrong
I was running out of time this morning. But we get to the final five, the feeds come back right away. What. What's happening? And this is when we learn that we learn a few things right.
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Your chicken favorites at participate in McDonald's for a limited time. The HOH competition is going to be an endurance competition and it's going to be on the live feeds. So we are about to explain that this is where we learn about the sped up week for the final five. We learn a bit later on the feeds that basically we're going to get something along the lines of a Sunday or Monday eviction very likely. And then the eviction will air on Wednesday, the special eviction and then they will do the final four round starting on probably Monday. Ish hoh and then do you know nominations and then do a live veto and eviction on Thursday. That is the current plan for the seemingly plan for the next week of gameplay. We will get to the final three by Thursday and then the finale is the following Sunday. So the big question of course is do the feeds go down for the special eviction? I don't think so. They didn't used to be down. I think they'll, I think they'll go down for the eviction itself. But I think we will learn who was evicted and who won the hoh. They'll come back up on like Tuesday or whatever. I have to imagine it would be wild for the feeds to be down for like four days straight before the end of the season. Like that's just silly. So, so that's the, that's seemingly the plan. And, and like I said, I think this is, this is the way to do it. A couple of days is more than enough time with this many people in the game to. To do strategy.
Puya
Yeah. I think, you know, we always talk about how getting this close to the end it can come down to, okay, who won the comp, you know, who's going up, you know, what happens if the veto's used, not used, and that's it. I think the time line they have currently will work for that. Like, we should be okay. Because I think the worst thing is you have five people. You have everyone kind of sentence someone what they want to do, and then four days of lull until the eviction. You don't need that. This is way better. And it keeps the season fresh, in my opinion. You know, I know they. They did love having a hundred days worth of content, but when the hundred days don't have all that content, does it count as content if it's just 100 days?
Taran Armstrong
Yeah. So we get to the feeds coming back right from Lauren's eviction, and there are a few conversations that happen here. Ashley talks to Ava about making it to the end. Ashley indicates that she understands that obviously in order to have a shot at winning this game, she needs to get out. Keanu and Morgan, they both need to go. And. And Ava feels this way as well. She's gonna talk to Vince about how she thinks that it's important to take out both Keanu and. And Morgan. Vince is saying, oh, of course. Oh, I know that. Yeah, I. I'm going to take them both out. I need to go to the end with you and Ashley. And, you know, he's so. He's promising he's gonna do that. He's also promising Keanu that he's going to take out mor. Out Morgan. If I want to win this game, Keanu, I know I need to. And Keanu's like, yeah, bro, we take out Morgan, we go to the final three with Ashley. Like, this is how we do it, bro. And he's like, yeah, yeah, for sure. And. And it's just like, okay, may, listen, maybe he intends to. Maybe Vince the backstabber will actually turn on Morgan. Who knows?
Puya
See, I watched all this, my friend, and my thought was he doesn't have the cojones to do this. This is both a trying to make sure that if any of these other people win, they hear this first, that this is who we wanted so they do not put him up. And I think b, if Vince ever was considering doing that seriously enough to me, it would have to be through the most back alley, last second. Gun to your head. I was forced to sob story for that to come to fruition because he is not gonna do that chest up forward like that. There's no way he's got that in him.
Taran Armstrong
Well, surely if he didn't plan to take out Morgan and maybe go to the final two with her, he wouldn't be saying things like, oh, I know I can't beat her. I know I need to take her out of the game if I have a chance if I want a shot at winning. Oh, I know that she took over my HOH and she's playing a better game than me, so I obviously need to take her if I want any chance of winning. He would never say those things if he didn't actually plan to take a shot because why would he be creating even more of a self fulfilling profit? Why would he be giving people that ammunition? Why would he be putting that in people's heads? Puya, that would be such a ridiculous thing to do as a person who's playing a game.
Puya
Yeah. Why would. There's no way he would choose to paint the perception of himself in the house in a way where he is the beta to Morgan's alpha willingly.
Taran Armstrong
And there's no way. No, he must be, he must be planning to turn on her.
Puya
Surely, surely you built, Listen, you build up your opponent so that when you beat them and you take them out, you, you can. You conquered Goliath. That's what you do.
Taran Armstrong
Exactly.
Puya
Yeah.
Taran Armstrong
Yes. Building up the move so that he can take it and put it on his resume. We're in Vince's mind.
Puya
You get it. That beanie's not just a hat. No, that's just not just a hat to him.
Taran Armstrong
Yeah. So we get to the HOH competition and fees come up. The have not room has been turned into the masterminds lair. And it's very dark and hard to see, barely visible. Yes. But the players, Vince, Keanu, Ashley and Ava, they are holding swords that are pointed and, and like pinned against mass. The mastermind's face on different sides of like a little square beam pillar. And at first we were like, oh, this is, this is that competition, the one that, that Leo won in Janky World. They had it on OTT. They had it on BB19. It typically goes and tends to be relatively equitable. I mean, Angela lasted a huge amount of time in Janky World and, and you know, Leah just completely dominated this competition. It's like just, it's kind of just like pressure cooker but with a slight sort of extended button presser. Right. Like that's, that's what's doing here. It took a. It took Leah almost 10 hours to win this competition. And so, you know, it's always nice to get a competition that allows for anybody to win it. Now, I say that because we didn't see them set up for this competition because it turns out this is not the same as those previous competitions. They have made a change. They have made a very clearly intentional change. The sword, very heavy, very heavy sword. Ava and Ashley apparently could barely get it up to touch the thing in the first place. They had a ton of difficulty even getting it in place. And so they are, as soon as the feeds come up, already struggling to hold it because they don't have the upper body strength.
Puya
Yeah. Once again, we're taking a endurance comp that was meant for anybody to win and turning it into. Nope. Physically dominant people are going to have this. Better upper body strength is what's going to matter, which is very disheartening. But also I have a lot of thoughts because my immediate thought would be like, well, we don't. If you're gonna make this last 20 minutes, why are you even giving it to me? But I'm not gonna fall for that trick. Taryn, I'm not going to tell them don't give me the comps on feeds because they'll just take that and run with it. I will take all the comps you can give me. But I mean, they clearly found a way to reduce this from a 10 hour competition to, hey, if we can get out of here in 50 minutes, that's a blessing. Let's do that.
Taran Armstrong
And listen, if that's the thing, if it's. Sorry, sorry, sorry, audience. We don't want to spend nine hours working all night. I get it. Sure, I get it. I didn't want to spend nine hours because I didn't have enough warning for it. But hey, you want to be lazy, that's fine. I'm okay with that. You don't have to make it heavier.
Puya
Yeah.
Taran Armstrong
That is not the solution. Literally, your own big brother survivor has been doing this for decades. They are doing this correctly most of the time. There are plenty of ways. You did it yourself to some degree. No, sorry. They didn't do it. The freaking contestants did. They stood on one leg, right? They stood on one leg to make it go faster. At the end of the previous thing, they literally gave you a formula.
Puya
And.
Taran Armstrong
And you could have them stand on a little beam. Have them stand on something that makes them. Makes it hard to balance. Oh, now it's more difficult and won't last nine hours. Maybe make three sections where it gets smaller every time. Survivor does this all the time. Why is the sword. Yeah. Not weighted to the person? Why is it not a percentage of their body weight? Why are you, like, balance is a thing that anybody can have. Keanu's great at balance. He still would have done great at that, but at least Ava and Ashley would have had a chance in hell. It's like, what are we doing? You clearly are doing this on purpose. Stop.
Puya
Simon says it, you know, like, in intervals. Simon. Okay, everyone's got to use left hand. Everyone's got to use right hand. You can only be on one leg. All the things you pointed out were good. Taryn. I feel like when you. When we did our own little pressure cooker thing last year on rhap, I got eliminated fourth because you added this ridiculous thing to me where I had to hold my head down while holding the ball, and just that movement was enough to ruin me within a matter of minutes, even though I was solid before that. And I feel like stuff like that would be better because, again, we want this to be a little more competitive than a 1v1 by the 10th minute. So.
Taran Armstrong
Yeah. So very quickly, as you might have guessed, Ava drops. She comes in and says, I was looking forward to pressure cooker all season long, but that was impossible. My arms are dead. They're sore. I like, there's no shot I could have won that. Ashley hangs in for a bit longer, but also, eventually her arms give out, and she comes in and says, that was impossible. There was no way. Both Keanu and Vince in the room afterward are like, wow, I'm surprised she lasted that long, considering how difficult it was for her to even lift the sword to put it up in the first place. I'm proud of her. And they're both like, yeah, we could go for hours. Which, you know, might have been bluster. But so it quickly comes down to Keanu and Vince, and as soon as Ashley's out of the room, Keanu's like, bro, ugh. If I knew that this is all it would take to get some uninterrupted bro time, I would have done this ages ago.
Puya
What does that mean? He would do an endurance comp ages ago. Like, what? How is he gonna make that happen?
Taran Armstrong
They should put a movie up for us, like, dodgeball. Have a good time in here. Bro down.
Puya
There's one thing he's consistent with Keanu is that he's going. He needs a bro to bro down with. And he's picked Vince to be this bro from week one.
Taran Armstrong
But not.
Puya
Not really.
Taran Armstrong
He picked. He picked all of the bros. He, Riley, Jimmy, Zach. Like Zay. Zay was his first brother.
Puya
But it always came back to Vince because.
Taran Armstrong
Because he's the only one left.
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Taran Armstrong
Because he literally says that in this room. He says, bro, have you even realized that there have been less than, like, there have been basically, like, just the two of us guys left for like the last month. Like, just only three guys, you know, if you count Will. And. And. And he got talks about, like, bro, like, it was like at one point, it was like eight to three, bro. Like, oh. Like, and then, you know, Jimmy was always with them, you know? You know what I mean? So like, that barely even counted at the start. So, like. And it's like, wow, Keanu, you're really, really talking about out loud, aren't you?
Puya
Yep. Not beating the allegations. Absolutely. No.
Taran Armstrong
Yeah.
Puya
Yes.
Taran Armstrong
So Keanu's just being obnoxious and so full of himself. Like, and for the record, Vince's strategy is holding the sword. Two hands against, you know, his arms. And. And Keanu's is one handed. Like, yeah, like, oh, we gotta get dodgeball on the screen, bro. We gotta get dodgeball on the screen. Switching hands. I mean, come on. Like, what are we doing? Hey, you feel uncomfortable? You feel uncomfortable, Vince? You feel uncomfortable? Oh, man, imagine. Imagine something happening. Oh, imagine I lose. And just like that, Keanu loses.
Puya
He did the exact same thing I felt in the wall comp, where he just gets way too relaxed and acts like, this isn't. He's not in the middle of a competition. You know, for the second time last night, I found myself yelling, use both hands, Keanu. Double handed. Sometimes, like, you can't just be sit. Because, like, it's one thing to use one hand, Taren, but like, one hand and hand on the hip just to me is insulting. Like, this feels showboaty. I don't think it was, but it was giving that energy. He was stretching a lot. But I think it was very clear to me that Vince had no interest in losing to Keanu here. Because I feel like some people thought, oh, he's immediately going to cut a deal, remove himself from this, give it to Keanu. Keanu's not putting him up. This is how Morgan leaves hands clean. But he had no interest in even risking not winning the HOH here, nor should he have.
Taran Armstrong
I mean, he was in serious danger. Even if Keanu didn't intentionally betray him, he was in serious danger. But of course, there's A serious consideration that he would have betrayed him. So, yeah, definitely should have been trying to win this, but there it is. Vince wins the hoh, and the. The graphic has updated.
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Taran Armstrong
So that's it. And Keanu some. And this would be. This would be very, I think, fitting if this were Keanu's end at the hands of Vince, and because he had a competition that, quite frankly, I think was literally designed for him to win and. And then loses it because he was overconfident and. And thought he didn't even need to try that hard anyway, and. And now Vince is the hoh, and so with Vince as the hoh, you have a situation, right? Is Vince actually going to take a shot at Morgan, considering all that he's been saying about Morgan? Will he go with Keanu somehow? Will he maybe just put up Morgan and Keanu? The bottom line is he has to put up Keanu despite all of the promises that he won't, because if he doesn't put up Keanu, he gives Keanu the ability to win the veto and force whoever he. Whoever else he doesn't put up on the block. If that means Morgan, then that means Morgan. And so there's no way Morgan's gonna let him not nominate Keanu, right? Let alone let him nominate her, because. What are we talking about? Do we really think he's gonna go against Morgan? Well, no, I am. I need to. I know I need to if I'm gonna win the game. So I don't know. What is he gonna do? Let's find out. Let's listen to what Vince has to say. He talks to Ava after the hoh, and she's saying, it's got to be Morgan or Keanu. And he. This is what we talked about, Vince. He's like, oh, well, I mean, I don't think I would nominate her initially, though. I think. I think maybe a backdoor situation. And, like, maybe if Keanu wins the veto, then I replace him with Morgan, and then. Then she needs to go, but, oh, boy, he's gonna be talking my ear off in the HOH room trying to get me to not put him on the block. He was like, frankly, you just have to learn to say no, Vince. Yeah, yeah, I know. I know.
Puya
This was, to me, the moment where it became crystal clear that it was lip service. This man is not gonna put up Morgan. He's already got some counter arguments as to why Morgan shouldn't be on the block to begin with. And this is the same people that he was saying, Morgan needs to go to right before the hoh.
Taran Armstrong
Vince also talks to Keanu. Keanu says, bro, obviously you're not putting me on the block. Right? Vince is like, ram. Yeah, about that. I mean, I think it might make some. Bro, we just talked about this. Obviously, you're not. You can't put me on the block. You need to leave me off the block. You know, you can't beat Morgan. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right, you're right. I. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I won't. I won't put you on the block. Easy. I won't do it. You know, Morgan's gonna be in my ear all night, though. She's gonna be talking my ear off, trying to get me to not put her up on the block. Bro, you just need to learn how to tell her. No, bro, like. Yeah, I know, I know.
Puya
Okay, Two things. One, I forgot about this. But before the HOH happened, Keanu was monologuing to himself, and he talked about how sure he was that he is not touching the block. No matter who wins hoh. It does not matter. He's not seeing the block this week. Unbelievable. Second thing, Taryn. I think we've cracked the code. I think Vince is the victim of his own narrative spinning because he don't give this man the keys that you're the man you're about to kick out the keys of. Hey, so I'm with you. We're going to get rid of Morgan. She's probably gonna convince me to do you instead, though. But that's not gonna work. And then you put him up anyway. Meaning you already are giving her all the agency and all the credit before you make your move. So why would anyone ever believe these are your moves? Why. Why shouldn't anyone think that Morgan is on a three peat HOH right now? Because you're telling everyone she is.
Taran Armstrong
And we learn pretty quickly. He talks to the cameras. After his conversation with Keanu, I think we finally kind of pin it down for sure. Something that we've all already known all along. I. I think I'm. I think I'm just going to the final two with Morgan. I think, you know, hey, maybe the jury will respect the loyalty. And later, he tells Morgan, I'm signing your $750,000 check. So I hope, you know.
Puya
Just. Are we just giving up, like, all of this to be like, yeah, maybe they'll take. Maybe they'll give it to me. Who knows? Whatever. Okay.
Taran Armstrong
Yeah. So he confirms to the cameras the plan will be the two people you promise Keanu and Ashley or sorry, Keanu and Ava on the block. Keanu is the target. Obviously Morgan and Ashley will vote out Keanu over Ava. Theoretically. No reason for them not to. And if Keanu wins the veto, he will replace Keanu with Ashley. And I was thinking about this. If he wanted to have some kind of pushback to Morgan, he might try to get Ashley out there to weaken Morgan. Seems like even that is not on the table at the moment, even to the cameras. He says in that case Ava would leave and not that he might even have the ability to do anything about it anyway because he doesn't control the votes. And Keanu and Morgan would both likely keep Ashley over Ava. But. But that is the plan. Keanu and Ava on the block. One of them will go home.
Puya
There you have it. Which again, I can't stress this. This is my personal taren. Him getting rid of Keanu. Not the worst thing in the world. A comp beast leaves all the comps open for him potentially. Like obviously him and Morgan have been winning the lion's share of the comps if you remove Keon from the equation. So that's not bad for him. But I can't help but get annoyed by the way he has framed it, by the way he's spinning his own demise with his narrative that this ends up making it a poor move for him because he's convincing everybody that it's Morgan's before he even makes it. So that's bad. That being said, on a personal I've won. I'm very okay with the outcome that we could be having this week. And we're in for a bit of a fun one. So can't say that I'm complaining too much here.
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Taran Armstrong
Yeah. So it is being asked in the chat like, well, what if Ashley wins the veto because if Morgan wins the veto, she's just not using it. But what if Ashley wins the veto because Ashley could use the veto on Ava and force Morgan on the block? You could ask, why would she do that? Why bother if she plans to evict Keanu anyway? Well, maybe she doesn't have to plan to evict Keanu. There is a world where it actually makes more sense for her to evict Morgan because she wants to be sitting in the final two, and Morgan's gonna take Vince and beat Vince. And so she could, with Ava, force out Morgan if she wins a veto. And then theoretically, in this spot, you go to a final four where Vince just betrayed Keanu again. Not that it'll probably matter, but Vince will have just betrayed Keanu again. Ashley will have just saved Keanu. And now you've got a bit more win equity as well, because you just pulled off a baller move. You finally won a comp. You took out Morgan. And who knows? Who knows, right? Like, it kind of shakes up the snow globe and gives you a shot. Because right now, that double eviction outcome was very bad for. For. For Ashley. I mean, this plus this hoh outcome, like, it's starting to look fairly dire. It's starting to look like she will get into a final three with both Vinnie and Morgan, both of whom take each other, which means she needs to win that hoh and then take Vinnie to the final two. And even then, it's like, do you for sure win there? Because that's a little tricky if you win one comp and take out Morgan, maybe, but it's. It's a little rough. Or you can really just go for it. Or she could just use the veto and still take out Keanu just to exercise some power and be the one that takes out Keanu on her own terms. You know, there are options, but it does require her to win the veto. But, hey, you know, it's something.
Puya
It's a scenario. It's an interesting one, though, because I feel like. And I feel like I wouldn't be mad at that direction. Like, her taking the shot at Morgan could be, again, a huge resume notch as well. My concern, though, would be, and it's unfortunate, but the makeup of the remaining others for her, mainly with Vince and Keanu being at this point, realistically the two that are most likely to win comps, especially if they keep going physical on. On, you know, these end game ones then or like a physical, like, uptick, then those two winning is not great for her either, especially because of Vince's weird view on Ashley not deserving even a shot at 75k. So that would make me a little skeptical. But I do see the vision and I do understand fully that the place she's in right now is not a great one for her prospects. I think it's still. I think it's still salvageable.
Taran Armstrong
But I mean, I'm willing to say this. I think if Keanu leaves this week, I think Morgan has won the game.
Puya
Spicy.
Taran Armstrong
I think it's not. It's not locked like Chelsea was locked, but I think the odds are very high because the chances of her being evicted at the final four veto without Keanu there. Final four veto tends to be something that is physical enough that she has a large edge and she's already a good competitor. If Keanu isn't there to compete against her, she has a huge advantage there. And then final three hoh, she's definitely making it to part three. She is good at quizzes. She has been studying. I think the only real thing that could happen there is if Ashley manages to sneak in and then beat her in a final three quiz and then cut her. Or if Vince eventually wakes up and realizes he wants to go to the end with Ashley instead of her or something like that. But like, overall, like, you know, we're looking at a huge amount of scenarios where Morgan is the winner if Keanu leaves. If Keanu doesn't leave, it's still a bit of a toss up in terms of where things could go so well.
Puya
Okay, so one. One scenario I'm thinking of right now. Keanu leaves, ava wins Final 4 veto, and Ashley is the HOH. Who does Ava evict in Vincent? Morgan.
Taran Armstrong
I think it is Morgan.
Puya
Okay. So that's like the one very limited out that we're seeing. Maybe that Morgan doesn't go to the.
Taran Armstrong
But yeah, that would require Ava to win the final four veto, which feels not super likely considering the kinds of comps the final four veto tends to be.
Puya
I hard agree with that. Yeah.
Taran Armstrong
Final four veto used. Yes. Used to always be just days. It's turned into days with a bunch of running around.
Puya
Yeah, days. Cardio, if you will.
Taran Armstrong
Exactly. Final four hoh. Is typically a lot more winnable. It tends to just be a booth comp. So that's the one where you have a better shot of potentially surviving or winning a comp. But, you know, it's. It's not. Again, not impossible, but not usually the most likely. So. So that's where we are. Of course, Morgan has. Spends plenty of time with Vince up in the HOH room later in the night. She got her HOH basket, he gets his stuff. No mention of the girlfriend, no letter, no photos. And I think this is relevant to their experience that night because first of all, the feeds are off of them for a little while. And then when they came back on, they were speaking in, you know, code is kind of a strong word for what they were doing. But talking about, like, option one, October, I was, you know, I was hoping that it wasn't just game kind of like they were really doing it. You know what I mean? They were really talking some stuff.
Puya
Yeah. And we didn't get the decipher, so the legend wasn't there. So it was quite hard to figure out. I want to talk about. I don't want to talk about, but I want to bring up Taren. So the letter Vince does get is from his dad. And this might be the funniest letter I've heard in a minute because dad kind of phoned in the letter. It was four sentences. It was very much a. I'm doing this so I don't get fined energy, which I thought was funny.
Taran Armstrong
Yeah, it was very short.
Puya
Yeah. Like, quarter of the paper was full, the rest was empty. That and also his music is. I think it's a guy that. I think one of the people, the artist he had earlier, it's the band for that guy. But then I want to mention that Morgan's music would have been Paramore had she gotten a regular hoh.
Taran Armstrong
She did have a funny line because they do argue about Lauren some more because she keeps saying, like, I know you would have picked Lauren over me. It's like, why? Like doesn't even do the like.
Puya
No.
Taran Armstrong
And. And so she says, you know, what did I say all season about Lauren? What did I say all season? You take a shot at me and miss. Better hope you don't, like, literally hope you better don't miss. Sorry. Literally better hope you don't miss. She didn't screw it up like I did, but she did mess up the line, which I thought was very funny. And then, yeah, they're just talking and chatting and talking about Lauren and arguing about Lauren. And then chatting some more and then talking about later things and talking about how close they are to winning this game. And he says he's signing her check and he jokes about doing some backdoor action on her and she's like, what? And you know, on and on.
Puya
Aaron, one cannot simply say backdoor action like that.
Taran Armstrong
That's what he said.
Puya
But still, just give me a warning.
Taran Armstrong
So that was the night and that is the. That is where we are at this point. I think the. The rest of this end game feels fairly straightforward. Should be. There shouldn't be too many late night conversations unless he really decides he wants Ava to stay over Ashley or something. Keanu wins a veto. I imagine Keanu will be once again disappointed in his bro, Vince, when he goes up on the block. Vince plans to tell Keanu that he had an epiphany overnight and realized that it's better for him to be on the block. Except it doesn't make any sense. And it's not going to convince Keanu for. Because for as dumb as he is about social reads, he does understand, like, basic strategy. He's not going to accept a stupid explanation that means that he should go on the block, even though that means Morgan can completely stay off the block. So we'll see where it goes. I'm sure, you know, he'll eventually be like, oh, what did she. How did she work her succubus magic on you again, Vince? But, you know, see.
Puya
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, if anything, that's going to be some fun feeds of Keanu being very annoyed that Vince once again did this when he shouldn't be shocked because Vince has never given him any indication that it's anything else but this with their relationship. I did see someone mention, was there any fallout to what Kelly said on the way out with. Yeah, he.
Taran Armstrong
He talked about it with. With Morgan and they joked about it like, like, like, oh, you had a final three. Like, like, who care? Like, oh, it's Kelly. You know, didn't. Didn't do a thing.
Puya
Yeah, inconsequential. You know, they do say, whoever delivers the message, that's going to carry a lot of weight. And so Kelly doing it kind of doesn't really do much here. I mean, it should wake him up to the idea of, like, yeah, you're gonna be seen as the second. Which maybe it did, but he's very clearly okay with it, so I think he's just okay with that perception.
Taran Armstrong
All right, anything else to bring up, Puya?
Puya
No, I think we covered everything. Again, like, I said to be able to talk about the day's events for 50 minutes this late into the season is usually a blessing. And I think for the most part it was fun. We got a hoh comp on fees. It was a double eviction night. A double eviction that went exactly how I wanted it to go. So I gotta say I'm very happy with where we stand right now.
Taran Armstrong
Yes, I think they are expecting a veto competition today because it's a sped up week that they, they are anticipating perhaps nominations and a veto competition. I'm not sure that's going to be the case, to be honest. But either way we should get the nominations and and then veto either today or tomorrow, of course. So stay tuned for that. I'll be back tomorrow morning with another date. I will be live with Rob on the for the patrons of Rob as a podcast for the Q A in just about an hour. If you want to come hang out there, that's at 1pm Eastern. And then tonight we do have Big Brother Unlocked, which will have a jury segment with Rachel and Will and we'll see James Gunn chatting and and Brittany, uh, Brittany Haynes. So very fun. Uh, excited for Unlocked tonight. You can ch out. I'll be streaming on YouTube, Twitch and Patreon. And of course, as always, I got a book. It's here. It's behind the mirror. Check it out@taran armstrong.com audiobook available. Some other stores available now as well. Puya, what do you got going on?
Puya
I as once we get off here, I will be finishing the editing touches to the latest episode of Liana Lounge. You can check that out today. I will be live tonight at 10pm Eastern over on Twitch doing what we do usually on a Friday night. So pull up, hang out, have a good time, talk 90 Day with Liana this week also. She was my guest for that. Myself and Annabelle are having a good, good time talking and watching the Traders Ireland season one. I believe the season's gonna wrap up next week, but it's been a very, very fun watch. If you do have extra time this weekend, I do recommend giving it a check, especially as we start ramping up the Traders activity in the next coming months. So that's all the things I've been.
Taran Armstrong
Doing and you can check out. All right, well, thank you all so much for joining us here today and I will see all of you next time.
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Hosts: Taran Armstrong & Puya
In this episode, Taran and Puya break down everything that happened on Day 73 of Big Brother 27, with the action-packed fallout from a double eviction that narrowed the field to five, a live endurance HOH on the feeds, shifting alliances, failed campaigning, and speculation about each houseguest’s endgame path. The hosts provide insight into house dynamics, strategic blunders, physical and social gameplay, and forecast possible outcomes as the BB27 endgame comes into focus.
[02:29] – [06:28]
Where things stood before the double eviction:
Outcome:
[06:42] – [13:51]
Lauren’s ineffectual end-game campaign:
Missed opportunities:
Critique on ‘moral’ gameplay:
[20:54], [27:00] – [32:33]
[37:15] – [43:37]
Vince, the indecisive HOH:
Keanu’s misplaced trust:
Vince’s self-awareness and defeatism:
Nomination plan:
[48:23] – [53:46]
[53:46] – [57:20]
[57:20] – [62:00]
Taran predicts a straightforward endgame unless veto comp results shake things up.
Audience question:
On Lauren’s weak campaign:
On fairness in competitions:
On Vince’s reluctance to own his moves:
Vince's defeatism:
Keanu ‘browning out’ in the bro comp:
Summary prepared for fans or listeners who missed the episode but want all the BB27 strategic context, drama, and live feed flavor—minus ads, intros/outros, and with all the RHAP tone and detail.