Today, Rob Cesternino is joined by Chappell, Matt Liguori, and Sasha Joseph to Norris discuss the special Wednesday nomination and power of veto episode of Big Brother 27.
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Rob Cesternino
Coming to you live from my apartment, it's Rob has a podcast. And now here's the guy who just just got back from getting laser enlargement surgery. I am Rob Cisternino. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to a late night two hour edition of the Big Brother Wednesday night podcast where there's been no Big brother for six days on cbs. But we're so back here tonight after a jam packed episode with the Zingbot, the HOH and even a veto. And we've got a jam packed panel for you first. Man, I just got done talking about all of the slop with. It's Chappelle. Chappelle, how are you?
Chappelle
Not great. Not great. Why?
Rob Cesternino
What's wrong?
Chappelle
Two hours. Two hours of Big Brother including two competitions that were way too long. I just woke up. I literally just woke up from the veto competition. I don't know what happened. I'm assuming the things that happened on the live feeds happened. And so I'm just gonna go with that.
Rob Cesternino
Okay, we'll go with that. All right. And here with us tonight, this is a very special pairing Got done kicking off a brand new season of Dancing with the Stars on our we know Dancing with the Stars podcast. Back with us, it's first Sasha Joseph. Sasha, how are you?
Sasha Joseph
So good. The girls of Rhap are here. I'm ready. Let's make it happen.
Rob Cesternino
Let's make it happen. Yes. And of course here with us, man, who has a big day coming up very soon, it's Matt Liguori. Matt, how are you?
Matt Liguori
O.
Rob Cesternino
So good.
Matt Liguori
Yeah, the crossover is too perfect here. Cheater island.
Rob Cesternino
Like Sasha, that's everything, I believe. Yeah.
Chappelle
That.
Matt Liguori
That's a lot of Dancing with the Stars.
Chappelle
So, you know, Glab.
Matt Liguori
Yeah, that's just Gleb. But yeah, we're gonna do the crossover here tonight. Yeah. What a long episode.
Rob Cesternino
But we're here long episode. And we have a lot to chew on as the Vince turns and a lot between Vince and Morgan. And we'll talk about it all. Because I really feel like that, you know, for all of the Vorgan talk, I. I came away from tonight feeling like Morgan needs to win the season.
Chappelle
Oh, yeah. I mean, the. The edit that Morgan got was very kind to her, but it was. It was almost accurate. You know, I think the reason why it's not accurate. The reason why it's not accurate is because, like, the time elapse doesn't do it justice. That lady was working on him all night. I mean, not in the way you would think, considering what we saw at first. You know, she was just, like, making sure that he was not going to go to bed without doing what she wanted him to do in the morning. And we don. Get that kind of effort from people ever since Rachel's been gone. These like, she's the only person to pick up the slack and say, like, I need something to happen. I need to go make it happen. And she did it.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Tonight really turned me around on Morgan because I kind of thought coming into tonight that she kind of was crushing on. On Vince. And then the way that earlier in the season, she did have a crush on Zach. But I kind of came away from tonight feeling like, no, she's working this business trip for Morgan. She may never even talk to Vince after she gets out of the house.
Chappelle
Yeah, I don't know about all that.
Sasha Joseph
But okay, why aren't we showing our timing?
Rob Cesternino
Well, let's talk about it all here tonight. Of course. Thanks to our very special sponsor for this episode of the podcast. Our friends over at Manta sleep where Morgan's like, no, thank you. I will not be sleeping. Okay, no need for Morgan. But for everybody else who does go to sleep at night, get 10% off@mantasleep.com promo code RHAP27. So, Chappelle, what do you think the future looks like with Vince and Morgan outside the house? You think that post Vince's relationship, there's a future for them?
Chappelle
Why do you think Vince's relationship is going to end?
Rob Cesternino
It might be over Already?
Matt Liguori
Why do you think he still has one?
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Chappelle
How can you get broken up with if you're in the house? Y' all haven't even had a conversation.
Rob Cesternino
That's so true.
Chappelle
You don't know. We don't know. He ain't. We haven't. He hasn't looked at the live release.
Sasha Joseph
No, because every time her name's mentioned, feeds is cut.
Chappelle
You're not wrong.
Matt Liguori
This episode was very different.
Chappelle
You're not wrong. I think had she not pulled that release, we probably would have saw some other stuff as well. But no Kelsey absent from this. But there was a lot of talk about what could be a problem in the relationship. The way the optics of Vince and Morgan just hugged up all the time. Again, the episode really doesn't do it justice because they hug up every night. Every night? Well, every morning when they finally decide to go to sleep, there's different various levels of spooning going on. They're moving pillows to the side and get closer. First they spoon it 69. Then they switching over back P. Diddy style. It's getting crazy, right?
Rob Cesternino
I didn't even know you could spoon 69.
Chappelle
Listen, check the L feeds. It's been getting good. So all I'm saying is they're going to have a conversation in October and who knows what's going to happen?
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Okay, so we'll see. But this was. We got the gamut of everything. Vince and his HOH and Morgan and Lauren, and we'll talk about all of it. And ultimately this does end up with Vince having to make the decision to put Lauren up on the block. And we sort of get Morgan, like, toying with the idea of maybe, maybe now I will. I will get Vince's number one, number two, and flush her.
Sasha Joseph
I love it. This is what we want on Big Brother. All right. Finally, we're getting, like, week two, three Big Brother.
Chappelle
Wow.
Sasha Joseph
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Matt Liguori
And this is some of the hardest gaming I've seen from anyone all season. I mean, I'm not going to include Rachel in that. We're not. You know, we're trying to move on altogether here, but Morgan putting in the hours. She was not kidding when she said she was working overtime, working all night long. I loved the way that the edit did portray. The sun comes up, the moon's going, you know, two days passing by, and we're still in the bed. We're still in the bathroom. We're doing all the work here. And she put in every possible second. She did. And she got it done whether or not it's the best possible move. You know, check out the round table. But she put in the work. She knew what she wanted to get done. And now we still get to sit here and still not even know for sure what's going to happen.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, I mean, she's used to these marathons from being on Twitch. She's just going to be like, hey, I'm just going to like, work on this game all night long. I don't care how long it takes.
Chappelle
Shout out to the gamers and the streamers out there. You know, she's doing it for all of us. You know, I. I get me my.
Rob Cesternino
Stream, Red Mountain Dew. I'm up all night. Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
48 hour stream.
Chappelle
It does feel like it. Watch it. Even watching the live feeds feels like we're like we're with them. We're putting in the hours. Because normally you have these conversations, they happen very quickly. You say, I'm not putting that person up. And then the person says, oh, okay, cool. I'll work on you tomorrow morning. Let's get some rest. But not here. Not here. Because Vince cannot make a decision to save his life. He just. He's always waffling. He's so spineless of a player. Feckless comes to mind. You know, it's just. There's nothing there. And so people like Morgan are going to be able to prey on him because he's not going to go to sleep. For some reason, Sasha, he just won't go to sleep until Morgan's not mad at him anymore.
Sasha Joseph
Honestly, I love it. She. She just has him in a chokehold. And it's so nice to watch. Like, it's just, you know, I'm tired, okay, of women getting dog logged on. So it's. It's just time that women finally do it back. And the fact that it's to this, like, slimy, cranky little baby I like, because I don't understand. This is not even. I'm not trying to be. See, it's just every time I watch him, I. Because I'm always like, no. Taryn is like doing the most, like, stop with the exaggerating. Then I go and listen to Vince and I was like, oh, like, I just don't understand what the attraction is. And you know, sometimes you're. You're stuck in a house and you're bored, so I get it. But still, it's just. It's. We're bored and it's time that women just, you know, play the game and play them in. Let's do it.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. I really feel like that this is. She has her eye on the prize. I think, you know, she.
Chappelle
You think that.
Sasha Joseph
No, I think she likes him, but.
Chappelle
But you're giving it.
Rob Cesternino
I really think that once she walks out of this, like, the spell is gonna be broken and she is not gonna have any involvement with. And maybe I'm wrong. And play this clip when it's Vincent Morgan's wedding, and it's like, oh, Rob got it wrong again on a big brother showmance and everybody can dunk on me. But no, I think that she is off to bigger and better when she gets out of this big brother house as the winner with 750k and not looking back at Vince.
Matt Liguori
She said, vince chose me over Lauren. Smart man. And what I heard was, vince chose me over Kelsey.
Rob Cesternino
Smart.
Chappelle
I don't disagree. Here's the thing. Even if right now Rob, her head is in the game, they still got, like, two months of Big Brother to play because what is it, Three weeks left. Two weeks left.
Rob Cesternino
Roughly two weeks from Sunday is the finale.
Chappelle
That's so much time. That's so much time. And if they start to whittle people away, because think about it. Everybody always says all Vince does is spend all his time with Morgan. Morgan says all this does is spend all his time with Lauren. If Lauren goes, where is he going to spend all his time with Morgan? So even if right now her head is in the game when he creeps in there at night, they live very.
Sasha Joseph
Close to each other.
Chappelle
They live up the street from me.
Matt Liguori
They're about to live in the same house.
Chappelle
It's gonna be them two and Kelly in a couple weeks, and they're not gonna talk to her. They're only gonna fall in love deeper. So, no, I think Morgan's in it.
Matt Liguori
I think that's the final three. Chappelle.
Chappelle
Listen, we need her out tomorrow or it's gonna happen. And I need her tomorrow.
Sasha Joseph
Her. No, we need him.
Rob Cesternino
No, this Vince story is not over yet. Sasha. We have nothing. We lose Vince that, and he is. I don't want to say main character energy, but he is the main character story.
Sasha Joseph
Okay, fine. We have to hate. Watch. I like.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. I don't want him to win, but he needs to lose, and he can't lose yet. We still have to get through two weeks. There's no story without Vince.
Sasha Joseph
Can you imagine? He.
Rob Cesternino
Tears. We need it.
Chappelle
Yeah.
Matt Liguori
I mean, it's so different from, you know, when you want to see. I'll just use it as an example. Like a Jackson Mickey. You want to see him walk out of the house and see what that's like. This is nowhere near the same thing, but you want to see Vince walk out of the house with the confetti on someone else and just see his reaction. Like, he knows that this is coming. He knows that if he gets down to the end of the game, there's probably not a lot of votes coming his way. But it's still. Well, it's one thing to imagine it and another thing for us to see it.
Rob Cesternino
We need to watch him lose in the final two.
Sasha Joseph
I don't think I want him in the final two. Y' all are crazy. I just think you're playing with fire.
Chappelle
No, that's why I need Kelly out tomorrow. Because if Kelly and Vince are in the final two, news to her, and that is crazy and I won't stand for it.
Matt Liguori
No, I think we're on to something because, you know, one of the biggest problems that I had when Rachel was robbed and we know all of that, is that the Rachel and Vince and Rachel and Keanu storylines never wrapped up. If we can get a Keanu, Vince final two and Rachel can bring it home to both of them right there, including the Vince loss.
Chappelle
Hold on. Rachel cannot go off on a game changing twist only for Keanu to win the season. No, no, no.
Matt Liguori
Not acceptable.
Chappelle
Biggest op the entire season was her frenemies. One ally.
Matt Liguori
There's a little friend in that.
Chappelle
We got to get Ashley to this final two, y'. All. I don't care what it takes. I'm jumping.
Sasha Joseph
Okay, that's correct. Now you're finally back with the correct.
Rob Cesternino
All right, well, let's. Let's just stay with the Vince storyline. And so tomorrow night, what do we need to happen here? Because I feel like from our maximum entertainment, what do we need to happen between the two eliminations? Okay, so I'm with Chappelle Kelly. Kelly can go.
Matt Liguori
It's time for Kelly to go.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, Kelly can go. She's bringing nothing. Okay.
Chappelle
And.
Matt Liguori
And honestly, thank Keanu. Like, we've had this whole season of we can't get rid of these two. Kelly and Keanu. They won't go. They're winning blockbusters. They're winning everything. Get them out. Have a final five where you're getting Morgan versus Lauren, like, fighting it. You know, each of them have a partner. You have Ava in Lauren's corner. You have Ashley and Morgan's corner. A Little bit. That's a good final.
Sasha Joseph
I think Lauren needs to go. You guys okay? No, this is great because I get what you're saying, right? Like, oh, we need like the comp. Fine. Okay.
Rob Cesternino
I'm not saying we need the compost out. We need. We need more entertainment.
Sasha Joseph
Look at the. Are you kidding me? These two are so delusional. They don't go to bed until like what, 10am so don't you know what happens to your brain when you don't go? When you don't get sleep? Right, Rob?
Rob Cesternino
You're dead.
Sasha Joseph
Survivor.
Rob Cesternino
So they'll make podcasting big brother at 10:30 at night. I know, Sasha.
Sasha Joseph
So they'll make up the demons. What's the problem? We don't need a comp. Another comp piece that actually could win.
Matt Liguori
Yeah, the scarier thing going on.
Chappelle
Lauren got to go. Laura can't win this game. Lauren cannot win.
Matt Liguori
Keanu also can't win this game. Vince can't win this game. Keanu can't win this game.
Chappelle
Listen to me. Morgan or Ashley are the only two acceptable options. And here's why. That final three. I don't care what nobody says. It needs to be Morgan, it needs to be Vince, and it needs to be Lauren. How good would the feeds be if he's bouncing from room to room trying to make it up to each of them but having to stop at Morgan's house?
Sasha Joseph
Island.
Chappelle
No, this is my islanding island.
Rob Cesternino
Chappelle.
Sasha Joseph
Exactly. Go on Temptation Island.
Chappelle
I need it. I need it.
Matt Liguori
Imagine the final three reminiscing around the table with the three of them.
Chappelle
Remember that time I tried to target?
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
All I'm telling you is we're gonna be big mad when Lauren wins out because the other two compist are gone.
Chappelle
Morgan is right there. Morgan is not gonna let this happen. You gotta have faith in our girl. Morgan and Vince are both compies.
Rob Cesternino
You know, I kind of feel like that we almost never come into the double eviction. Feeling like I almost feel like we can't lose on the double eviction. I mean, what's gonna. What's the worst case scenario that happens?
Sasha Joseph
I don't want to say it, but. Oh, no, that's fine. There's just one woman that I don't want to go.
Rob Cesternino
Who's that? Morgan?
Matt Liguori
Ashley.
Sasha Joseph
Nope. Yep. I don't want to put it out there.
Chappelle
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
She should win because Zingbot let me come find you. Which are dumb.
Rob Cesternino
Let's wait on the Zingbot. Let's talk about.
Sasha Joseph
Let's talk about that all at once, I feel like.
Rob Cesternino
I think that was a net positive for Ashley.
Chappelle
Yeah.
Matt Liguori
Yeah.
Chappelle
Keep our threat level low, you know.
Sasha Joseph
Well, let's see. These people were done.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. But I kind of feel like that there's not any, like, super worst case scenario for the double.
Matt Liguori
Two people are gonna learn from these dummies.
Chappelle
If Morgan it. Look, if Morgan or Vince goes, what do we have? Rob, at that point, we have Ashley fighting for her life against. Yeah, the field. That's a bad.
Matt Liguori
We're not thinking about Taryn here. Who is already.
Sasha Joseph
Taryn will be fine. He has one week left.
Rob Cesternino
He's gonna be. He'll be fine. He's more than fine. He's fine.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Matt Liguori
Rob, these late nights.
Rob Cesternino
Listen, you're telling me. Matt, I get it. We're starting.
Matt Liguori
It is a late night.
Chappelle
But.
Matt Liguori
Oh, my God, I wake up in the morning and they're still talking.
Chappelle
They're still talking. Yeah. Look, I think that if you can get me a final three with the three of them. Vince, Morgan, Lauren. But you can add. Ashley is like the sneaker fourth person there. She can work her way in there because they're going to be needing her to get each other out. They're going to need her to get out Lauren. Or Lauren's gonna need her to get out Morgan or Vince. She's gonna find her way in there. I just need the three of them in the house with no distractions. Except for Ashley, because Ashley's gonna. She's gonna stir the pot.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, she'll be good instigator. That. That's an instigator, Kelly.
Chappelle
That's. That's how you instigate. Kelly. You got Kel.
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Rob Cesternino
All right, you want to talk about the Zingbot? Sasha, please.
Chappelle
All right.
Rob Cesternino
Zingbot was here and a lot of Zing here tonight. In the month of mayhem, who shows up, comes in, first thing the Zingbot says is this house smells like censored Zing.
Matt Liguori
Yeah, isn't that every season?
Rob Cesternino
Does he come in?
Matt Liguori
Not to call Zingbot, you know, a little tired out with some of these jokes, but everyone says the house smell smells bad. Jeff. Jeff got engaged in the house and he. The only takeaway he had was how bad it smelled in there.
Chappelle
There. Wow. Matt making a joke about Zingbot. The day that he dies is so tasteless. So tasteless. So tasteless. The fact that you would do that today. Disgusting.
Matt Liguori
So he's done. Never again. No. No more Zingbot.
Rob Cesternino
I think they even said Zingbot will be okay.
Matt Liguori
I mean, they killed. Haven't seen him since.
Rob Cesternino
That's fine. It'll be okay. It'll be okay. The Zingbot. All right, so we got the Zingbot. I don't know what the Zingbot comes in and says, does anybody want to give me a high five? Like, what is he.
Sasha Joseph
Did the boring. Like, oh, you. No, no, thank you.
Rob Cesternino
Lauren was the only person ready to, like, give him the high five.
Matt Liguori
You should have asked for a hug. That's like the theme of the season. Everyone wants a hug, a long hug.
Chappelle
She's 12. Of course she fell for that. You know what I'm saying? Next thing, Zingbot is going to go, got your nose. And she go into a panic.
Rob Cesternino
All right, so the Zingbot starts with Lauren and goes into about a nursery rhyme for baby Lauren. Yeah, where's the lie?
Matt Liguori
And then they tried to comfort her and say, lauren, you're not boring.
Rob Cesternino
No.
Matt Liguori
Lying straight to her face.
Chappelle
She has a personality. It's in there. The. For the people who've been watching the Slob and like, the, the. The Internet content and stuff like that. Like, outside the house, she seems like a great time, at least on, you know, edited footage from Tick Tocks and whatnot. But inside the house, it's almost like she would have more fun if she would just talk to some of the people that are not in her alliance.
Rob Cesternino
Scared.
Chappelle
Just talk to them. You know, just talk to them. I don't know how many times we have to hear.
Matt Liguori
That's the TV to look at. Why would you talk to people?
Chappelle
But you could just. You could just talk to them. You could really just have a conversation and then maybe they could pull that out of you. Maybe. I feel like Ashley and Lauren could be great friends if she ever just. Just, you know, try to talk to her and have a game with her. You know, it could, it could happen.
Rob Cesternino
It's a lost cause here on day 70. Whatever.
Sasha Joseph
I'm just wondering why the Zing bot didn't say, like, I want to Zing you, but I'm. I think you might be scared of me. You know what I mean? I just feel like drag her a little more. Like, okay, she's boring. Like, I think Lauren knows that she's boring.
Matt Liguori
They should have put. Well, this would be out of order. But if they did her thing after Morgan's and made some kind of comment about how. Lauren, are you second or third in line for Vince's heart right now?
Sasha Joseph
No, because why are we dragging women drag the. The one that's breaking their hoes.
Matt Liguori
Vince felt it.
Sasha Joseph
Okay, Just put out his podcast today. So I'm out for all these cheating.
Rob Cesternino
Ass people who put out the podcast.
Sasha Joseph
Ned Fulmer, the Try guy that you know.
Rob Cesternino
Oh, yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Okay, well, X try.
Rob Cesternino
All right, we got Kelly is creepy. Ashley did bring up that the. She has the dead bugs Chappelle we did got that finally in the TV show. So if she gets eliminated tomorrow night, she will be able to say that she's hid dead bugs in the house. And it won't be totally out of context.
Chappelle
Is she giving a thousand dollars to anybody for finding the dead bugs? If she said, like, as she said.
Rob Cesternino
On the feed, they have to find them all.
Chappelle
Oh, yeah, Every day. But they got to catch them all. That's still gotta catch them all. No one's getting that money. No one's ever getting that money. I'm sorry.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Okay, so then we got the Vince Zing. The. The actual Vinc Zing. And he is a 34 year old crybaby who's unemployed and lives with your parents. I'd zing you, but life beat me to it.
Chappelle
That was good.
Matt Liguori
Only that was. If only that was as bad as it was gonna get. I mean, this is nothing compared to what's coming.
Chappelle
It doesn't do him any favors when he falls down into the fetal position and starts spinning around like a two year old. You know, I was like, vince, you're. You're doing. You're zinging yourself again. Get up. Stand up.
Rob Cesternino
Stand up.
Sasha Joseph
Stay down.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, the Zingbot got Ava about her boho chic fashion, then turned out actually it's more ho chic.
Chappelle
That ain't what he said.
Rob Cesternino
What'd he say?
Chappelle
I believe he was bleeped. I thought he said something because Ava, like, freaked out. Hobo chic would not have had that. I think he said, I don't think.
Sasha Joseph
You can say that on tv. Maybe that's why.
Chappelle
I'm pretty sure maybe.
Matt Liguori
Yeah, but I think.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, some if chat she was mad. It may be.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Chappelle
Nobody reacts like that. If you say hobo chic like, that's not even. That's not remotely funny.
Matt Liguori
Can we talk about Ava, though? Like, I mean, obviously we know what she's about to do with the nomination ceremony. Well, she, you know, has been on feeds talking about, you know, her. Her real true intentions, wanting to win afp. And like, we're seeing, you know, she's flipping off the Zingbot. She is trying in these final weeks, these final days to do everything she can. And, like, is anyone. Is it working?
Rob Cesternino
Did she eat?
Matt Liguori
Oh, she left every crumb.
Chappelle
Everything plateful. We start. We're starving over here, Ava.
Rob Cesternino
You know, starving.
Chappelle
That has a great point. Why wait till now to start being performative? Jimmy was doing this week too, throwing glasses and performing speeches. Ava, where you been, girl?
Matt Liguori
Right, Jimmy, I Mean. But Ava and Kelly, truly, like, they want to be everything that Rachel Riley is, and all they have to say are negative comments about her now that she's gone. But everything they're doing is straight out of the Rachel playbook.
Rob Cesternino
Sometimes what we don't like about a person is what we're actually jealous of. Man, that.
Chappelle
Well, I mean, Kelly literally said it on the feeds today. She said, I'm jealous of Rachel, and I want to be her.
Sasha Joseph
Like, I want to be here when I grow up. Took me out. I just think that Ava. They should show what Ava's been talking about Rachel. Like, that would be fun to watch. No.
Rob Cesternino
And she's still talking a lot about Rachel.
Matt Liguori
Yeah, every day.
Chappelle
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
It's obsessed. It's giving obsessed.
Chappelle
She's a stand like the rest of us. I'm sorry. We can't let it go, and neither can she.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Okay, well, Keanu, that. They got him on Dungeons and Dragons, a feat of a troll. Snore of an ogre, stench of an orc, and you pee all over the bathroom floor.
Matt Liguori
That is crazy. You're on live tv, and they're telling the whole world how you peed on the floor.
Rob Cesternino
He said it wasn't him.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. And then he. My favorite is later when he's reprimand and they're not reprimanding, but, you know, doing, like, his truth palms to Vince, and he goes, but wait, wait, wait. Side note.
Chappelle
Do I smile? Yeah, it ain't me, right?
Sasha Joseph
And then I wanted to be like, no, but we saw Vince holding his nose.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, but Vince isn't the right source. He won't tell him.
Chappelle
I. I think the show did Keanu a disservice because they've been giving him such a glowing edit that, like, the only negative thing they've ever shown from him is that, you know, him and Rachel got into it about who peed on the floor.
Rob Cesternino
But I think that was Unlocked. I don't even think that was on the regular show.
Chappelle
Well, you know, we're supposed to watch Unlocked. We got to watch Unlocked or you'll miss something. And so, yeah, they talk about it on the show, and now they have to reference it because it's the only thing we really know about him. That's negative. If you haven't been watching the feeds. If you have been watching the feeds, you know that Keanu has been wrong, wrong every second of the game. He's never had a loyal ally that. That he didn't turn on. And all the people that he thought he was working with, he was not working with. He's been on the block so many times because people want to send him home. And the only thing he has managed to do effectively in the game, aside from send his allies home, is win the challenge. That's it. He's not a good strategist. He's not good at Big Brother. The Zbot could have went in, but instead, we have to talk about people.
Matt Liguori
And he has bad aim. Exactly. Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
I mean, yeah.
Matt Liguori
It was like you could have missed a urinal.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. You never get your target, even when it's the toilet. Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, see, that's good.
Rob Cesternino
Zing.
Sasha Joseph
Also, I thought this time more than usual, like, the. The zings in between. Right. The. The where he was like, rumors.
Matt Liguori
Those were good.
Chappelle
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Or like, random things. I didn't write them down, but they. Those I found way more fun.
Rob Cesternino
Okay.
Matt Liguori
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
So then he does the whole song for Ashley, which was endless, about how Rachel had a little friend and basically calls her a clinger and iconic. She's not. She's not very memorable. Except for her showers peaked on day one.
Chappelle
Zing that.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, I like those little things.
Matt Liguori
Crazy.
Chappelle
Ashley peaked on day one. It's crazy considering she's been picking up steam and momentum throughout the entire entire season. The only thing the show has shown was the one thing she did to piss everybody off, which was a shower one time. Like jingbot. You grasping at straws, baby. They got to do them better. They. Look, we complain about the edit all the time, but this is what happens when you do an unbalanced edit. You don't show these people.
Rob Cesternino
What should Ashley Zing be?
Chappelle
I don't know. There's so many things. One, she's lying about not being a lawyer and pretending her about that. Yeah, they can, you know, because everybody in the house.
Rob Cesternino
You are lying about your job to the house.
Chappelle
What I mean is that people think she's dumb. You know, we see Zach outside. Would you like it better if the.
Rob Cesternino
Zimbabwe called her dumb?
Chappelle
Yes, because she's trying to be dumb. She's acting like she's dumb.
Sasha Joseph
She says the Elle Woods. Right. That's what she was trying to be.
Chappelle
Yeah, but.
Rob Cesternino
Protesting outside the Big Brother house right now, if the Zingbot came in and called Ashley dumb, the Zingbot.
Chappelle
Did something way better than that tonight, and everybody's fine. Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
I don't know. I feel like also this. What? A lot of people online were saying this, too, and. And it's interesting that. Do you think that this was actually Ava's thing, like Rachel's little friend, because they were the final two. Because to me, I was like, oh, that actually works better for Ava than it does Ashley. We. Now we know why it wouldn't. But I just mean, that's. If she wasn't talking so much smack about Rachel, would that have worked?
Matt Liguori
Yeah, it could have. I just want to know when Zingbot turned into the wand off, because.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Chappelle
Three songs.
Matt Liguori
He said. He said it's another song coming up.
Rob Cesternino
Okay, let's get to Morgan. And he basically says, what do you call someone who lights up when Vince enters the room, has long hugs and lights up? And Morgan tries to say, like, his number one girl.
Matt Liguori
I know the answer.
Rob Cesternino
Yep. And he says, his girlfriend.
Sasha Joseph
I.
Chappelle
And silence.
Matt Liguori
This is some kind of bizarro world. Like, who wants cake a little bit? Because she went to who wants pizza.
Rob Cesternino
Stuff right after this, and she was slicing that pizza.
Sasha Joseph
No, she was cutting Zingbot's body.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. I don't know how that pizza cutter didn't go through the counter.
Sasha Joseph
At first I thought she was doing the dishes, like, because it was so.
Rob Cesternino
Violent when they asked. But later on in the show, who murdered the Zingbot? I was like, I think I have a suspect in mind.
Matt Liguori
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
I can think of someone with a.
Sasha Joseph
Motive who actually wore the mastermind outfit again. I just feel like it needs to be said, why did Morgan get that Zing? Right? Julie has been doing some nonsense interviews, too. Blaming the women calling Rachel and Ashley mean girls for calling out, you know, their golden piss boy, Keanu. And then now, you know, and then, like, talking about Morgan, as well it should. You should never. With the person that is, like, the third should never be called a home wrecker because there's only one person in the house, and that person wrecked the home.
Matt Liguori
And the Keanu scene, that's gonna come up, you know, a couple minutes from now with Keanu talking to Vince about, like, just so, you know, like, you know, this looks like this. And it does feel like he's saying, you know, because of Morgan, rather than, like, hey, you have a girlfriend. Like, he's saying, oh, I don't know what your dynamics are. So I don't know if I should be saying anything, but, like, hey, this is what it looks like.
Chappelle
Like, I mean, but this is. This is typical Big Brother nonsense, you know, in BB17, Liz Nolan caught that stray because of her relationship with Austin. Liz, you become such an important part of Austin's life. Are you more excited to meet his mom? His dad or his girlfriend. Zing.
Rob Cesternino
You know, like, she posted that Cody got the zing about that. Something about like Christine's husband end.
Chappelle
Yeah, you haven't made any enemies this summer, except for maybe Christine's husband. So, yeah, they always, like Sasha said, they always go to the person who is not tied to anybody when that person is not at fault unless. And like Matt's saying, if you want to talk about what Keanu says is like, oh, you know, I see her making the moves on you and she's hugging you or something like that. Vincent trip and fall into the hug. You know what I'm saying? He has the free will to stand up and be like, do not hug me like that. I have a girlfriend. Sleep in your own bed.
Sasha Joseph
Or if he's like, you know, he literally cries for her. Like, literally like a puppy, you know, like a one week old puppy. Like, that's him. Separation anxiety.
Chappelle
But you know, that Keanu blaming Morgan.
Matt Liguori
Oh, Brand on brand.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, please. Like, what else can we expect? Calling her attempt girl if, you know.
Chappelle
He called Lauren a succubus, which is crazy. Now that.
Rob Cesternino
That's weird.
Sasha Joseph
But anyway, like, whatever. No, it's just. I don't understand Keanu. Like, when he goes after men, he's so funny. And then when he goes after women, he's just like basic, you know, he's just like, okay, basic misogyny. At least, like, try to be funny. But he's not Vince.
Rob Cesternino
I thought he was trying to get an apology from the Zingbot after the Morgan girlfriend mentioned he's. Well, that said, like, that. That's not right to say that.
Chappelle
At least he. Look, he stood up for his friend. It was feeble and weak. But that's Vince. You know, he was like, hey, don't Zing her. Zing me. Like, that's not her. She's not. This is not a thing for. And Zingbot was like, all right, whatever. And he just left. The awkward stance, the awkward silence. Yeah, that was crazy. Where things are like, y' all not gonna clap. Y' all not gonna. I don't think we've ever really got a reaction like that before either.
Matt Liguori
It was so real. I mean, look, the whole segment earlier in the episode about, like, we all see this, right? Like, just making sure. Bringing the audience up to speed, showing the lockdown and showing the cheating island comment. So, you know, we're all aware of what's going on. And to hear it out loud over the speakers from Zingbot himself. Like the final Zing of the Day. Like, I would have frozen up, up just the same. Like, that's your two's moment, Vincent. Morgan, you handle that. And they just, you know, Morgan's ripping apart a pizza in. In retaliation. So that's all we get.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Okay. So they try to then have a discussion about what has just happened after that. And Morgan says it's a lame zing. And they're just best friends. And. And Morgan is upset his girlfriend is going to see that zing. I don't know. Maybe not. She might not be watching anymore.
Chappelle
I wouldn't be watching anymore.
Rob Cesternino
She might be, you know, switching over to something else at this point.
Matt Liguori
And again, to say that his girlfriend will. He doesn't have one anymore.
Chappelle
I mean, Morgan in the house, you know, he might have one. You know, I don't know. We don't know. Some woman he clearly doesn't care about is about to watch the show. Okay.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah. Why wouldn't you say her name right? Like, just don't. Don't attach anything.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. This is how bad it was that it was. Even Kelly was uncomfortable.
Chappelle
Look. Oh, Kelly is wild. Kelly was down there just gossiping along with Keanu and them. And Keanu's like, oh, Cheetah and Eileen. And she's like that. That. I think that crossed the line. I was like, all right, Kelly. And then she was like, but I can use it for game. I said, okay, thank you, Kelly. Like, I mean, come on, we're not going to play. Have, try, have the moral high ground here when you've been spreading it around just like everybody else, Ms. Instigator. But to use it for game. I don't mind that.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, no, I love it. Do it more.
Chappelle
Yeah, for game. But for game, stop being weird just to be weird.
Sasha Joseph
Exactly. Not the whole like I. We at the start of the episode, right. With Lauren and Ava. Oh, I want to vote for. No, I want someone in the end that I want to vote for. You can and you will. Like, no, none of this. Like, I want to vote for more. Shut up. This is big brother. So if Kelly's gonna do it to screw people over in the game, fine. But for any other reason. No.
Rob Cesternino
Okay, so that's sort of like the setup here for. In the two hour episode of the Vince and Morgan drama. Because it is going to really be front and center all throughout the rest of the episode. Because. Because we're going to have our hoh competition that Vince is going to win. And they really did put a lot of effort into this. Matt, what'd you Think about the new Netflix documentary on the last Zing.
Matt Liguori
Oh, wait, are you talking about, like, the actual documentary we watched or some of the other covers?
Rob Cesternino
We could start with the. The actual documentary. But they did put a lot of work into to this.
Matt Liguori
They did. Some of the other covers were kind of crazy on their own, but this was your eye. Yeah. Just a reunion of a former big brother duo that might have various reasons to not actually be together to this day.
Rob Cesternino
But why I did not zoom in on the DVDs there.
Matt Liguori
There was a chill town DVD.
Rob Cesternino
Wow.
Chappelle
Okay. Speaking of breakups, yay.
Matt Liguori
But no, this was. This was kind of fun to watch.
Rob Cesternino
Speaking of.
Matt Liguori
Yeah. Zingpot. Zing in the Mastermind. I wasn't expecting that, but I laughed when he said. What did he say? He said.
Rob Cesternino
So. Yeah. That he had a couple of zings for the Mastermind as they got into a duel on the Radford backlot. Here was first, the Zingbot said this.
Sasha Joseph
Since I also didn't have your permission to enter your mom.
Rob Cesternino
I thought he was gonna stop right there. Oh, I thought he was gonna stop right there. Because we talk so slow, Sasha. It's like, okay, spit it out. Bedroom. Yeah, I just.
Sasha Joseph
I was like, why are you, like, act like one. First of all, the yo mama jokes is crazy. Like, are we on Wild Now? Like, what's happening?
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
But then secondly, I said, mastermind, stand up. Kill. Do something.
Chappelle
Shoot him. I support.
Matt Liguori
Shooting blanks.
Sasha Joseph
Well, dang, it felt a little blue.
Chappelle
Yeah, that could be work worse.
Rob Cesternino
Well, then after he said, hey, oh, I knew you were shooting blanks.
Sasha Joseph
He said, this looks like someone got laser enlargement surgery.
Matt Liguori
What?
Chappelle
And the Mastermind was like, all right, you did.
Sasha Joseph
My laser.
Rob Cesternino
Laser enlargement surgery.
Sasha Joseph
They tried to do a Drake, you know, type disc.
Rob Cesternino
Are the Mastermind and Zingbot. Is this, like, their diss tracks? They're the new Drake. And Kendrick Lamar, the.
Sasha Joseph
The team movers.
Matt Liguori
It was. It was giving Brand steel.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, my word. Oh, my God. BBL Jersey.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Do we think the Mastermind will be unmasked sometime in between now and the finale?
Chappelle
I thought about that. I thought about that, and I kind of don't want it to happen because whatever it is, it's going to be underwhelming. You know what I'm saying? There's not one person that they could pick. Pick, man. Maybe Dr. Will, but other than that, there's not one person they could really pick that we would be like, oh, very happy to see that person. Like, the. The bars in Hell for big brother players these days. Rachel was already in the season, so it can't be her. It would be cool if it was her. You know, if she likes. It was me all along.
Matt Liguori
Wow.
Rob Cesternino
The Scooby Doo anything? It was Rachel the whole time.
Chappelle
Exactly. But aside from that, like, there's nobody else I would want to see. Except maybe Dr. Will.
Matt Liguori
How do you not send the mastermind himself? If we saw he's mobile. That's. That's a costume. Like, that's a real. Like, he's moving. How do you not send them into the house, you know, at some point between now and the finale for the unmasking? Yeah, I feel like they should.
Sasha Joseph
I don't. I don't think they should just. I. There's no one that they could do that would have me.
Rob Cesternino
Maybe it was Tyler. Maybe that's the real Scooby Doo ending.
Chappelle
But he already. Yo. Yeah, because he. Yeah, we wrote him off because he's.
Matt Liguori
Working on his weapons.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
He said, don't blame me, so I don't know. A little bit.
Chappelle
It. If I'm Tyler, I'm opting out. Okay. Like, feedback from the rich. I'm like, no, I'm good.
Sasha Joseph
That's what I'm saying. If you are an alum, like, just don't do it.
Matt Liguori
He said, I left this house in season 22 saying, I will never be back here. For some reason answered the call. And now another reminder to never show back up on that parking lot.
Rob Cesternino
I think he thought he was going on the White Lotus, and then he accepted the invitation, and it's like, no, no, this is the White Lotus.
Chappelle
No. Ooh, the Teemu. Yeah. I don't know. It's gotta be somebody else from level six at this point. Pick your point. Winston. It's Winston.
Matt Liguori
Winston had a movie poster as well. Tonight there was a Winston movie.
Chappelle
The problem with using people from past seasons is that based on who they actually pick to be on the show, it doesn't seem like a lot of people are doing their homework. If somebody walks in and they're like, oh, snap, it's Dan Geisling. I. I, like, four of them are like, who? You know, I don't. I. I just don't feel like you want to waste nobody on.
Rob Cesternino
You think it could be Angela?
Chappelle
Oh, that would be fine.
Matt Liguori
We already saw her, so I'm a little.
Chappelle
Yeah.
Matt Liguori
Not.
Rob Cesternino
Not that Angela.
Chappelle
Oh, yeah. What. What if it's siree? She's back for revenge after what they did.
Sasha Joseph
Last 3B.
Matt Liguori
I just like, you know, LA. Last opportunity if they do something with it la next week to, you know, make the crossover. So if it is like, you know, you're Angela Murray or somebody else on that cast, what if it's Bill?
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, yeah.
Matt Liguori
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Chappelle
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Rob Cesternino
Disney and Pixar. Zelio has a new home now streaming on Disney plus.
Sasha Joseph
That's amazing.
Chappelle
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Rob Cesternino
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Sasha Joseph
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Chappelle
It is.
Rob Cesternino
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Chappelle
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Sasha Joseph
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Chappelle
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Rob Cesternino
Now streaming on Disney. Let's talk about. Okay, Vince is now the hoh. And here he is and what a great spot to be in for Vince. The hoh. Me excuse except it will not be a fun time whatsoever for Vince as he has to decide what to do. Morgan from the jump is very concerned about Vinnie's noms. What's he going to do because he has a weak spot and that is Lauren. That he won't put Lauren up on the block and everybody knows it. Lauren's feeling good. That okay, my allies maybe are in trouble but I know I won't go on the block to during Vinnie's hoh.
Chappelle
It's like she's not, she's not here. This Season. You. You will. If you are someone's number one, you will go up during their hoh. You will. You. Absolutely.
Rob Cesternino
This season. Yeah.
Chappelle
Especially Vinnie.
Sasha Joseph
We will go on their block. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rob Cesternino
And I will say that while I am no fan of the two hour Big Brother episode, that this, these two episodes together did work out where that, you know, you get Vince starting his ho age and Lauren is feeling, I'm not going to go on the block. And then the two hours does end with Lauren indeed going up on the block on Vince's hoh.
Matt Liguori
Yeah. She. The confessional where she said, you know, every time Vince wins hoh, I am so happy. I celebrate. And then my Ally goes home and then I'm in consideration to go up on the block. And does she ever learn?
Rob Cesternino
No, she has the veto on him.
Matt Liguori
Yeah, yeah. And she'd do it again.
Chappelle
Okay.
Matt Liguori
You can't convince me otherwise.
Rob Cesternino
All right, well, it's gonna be early on in Vince's hoh, before we even get to nominations, Vince is going to talk to Lauren about potentially going up on the block. And she's upset to even be considered for the block. He tries to tell her, no, we need you to win the veto. She's like, what's wrong with you?
Chappelle
You. He's not okay. The man is unwell. The man is unwell. He explains to us no more than like, no less than 10 times throughout this episode why he should not put Lauren up. He's saying, she is my other number one. I have a final two with her. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile, Morgan's like, you should put up your number one. You have a final two with her. And I don't like it. And he's like, okay, I guess I'll put up on number one. She. He's. He's telling her, this is bad for my game, Morgan, I shouldn't do this. And she's like, but you should do it. He's like, okay. Like, she's not misting him. Him. She's not confusing him. She's just telling him, no, this is what I want you to do. And the more she says it, the, like, the more he just melts into like a puddle of jellyfish, you know, and. And he just does what she wants. It's crazy.
Rob Cesternino
So I'm not doing you like that.
Matt Liguori
Eventually is the craziest part of all of this, that he told Lauren. He said, I am considering you. I may have to put you on the block. I'm really thinking about doing this even if I Don't want to. I'm thinking about it. And she said, says, okay, noted. He doesn't do it. Now she knows that you were very much considering her and you decided not to do it at the last second. It's just, you know, it. It couldn't have been worse. As you know, from the gameplay side of things here, not just our entertainment. It just was so stupid.
Rob Cesternino
Vince is ultimately going to make his nominations, and he puts up Ava and Kelly and Keanu. And of course, Keanu had the cheating island comment and so played with Vince's life in the game. He had to teach him a lesson. Out of nowhere, here comes Ava with the prop that he says to her that she's a pawn and she takes. This is a big brother first, I believe. A pawn from the chess set.
Sasha Joseph
You want an easy pawn this week?
Chappelle
Here you go.
Rob Cesternino
Did she eat?
Chappelle
Eat?
Rob Cesternino
No, no.
Matt Liguori
No.
Sasha Joseph
This is where.
Rob Cesternino
No, no, no. That's like, what is happening? What is she doing?
Sasha Joseph
How do you not, like, bust open laughing in these people's faces? Like, I just. This is how I know I would be out week one because I would just laugh in people's faces. I would be like, you're so embarrassing. Like, how are you not embarrassed? Like, this is embarrassing because it's not funny. And not only that, it's just. I just also want to say, did this whole cast just get tasered back into high school or something? Yeah, because that's how it feels.
Rob Cesternino
I mean, was it Tyler? He had the taser on BB unlocked when he was in the backyard.
Chappelle
Tyler, Rob, we have an agreement. We have a contract. Don't come for Tyler.
Rob Cesternino
I'm just saying, if anybody was tasing.
Matt Liguori
People, I just like, Ava. Ava did eat with the Keanu. Don't talk to me like that. You know, a couple months ago, when we were enjoying.
Rob Cesternino
I believe you have a prompt.
Matt Liguori
Yeah, that was. That was good. She got a good moment there. Now we are waiting for the paycheck to fall into our hands and just really hoping that there's still a chance. And it's not.
Chappelle
There's. There's.
Matt Liguori
There's no momentum. There's negative momentum for an Eva afp.
Chappelle
There's just so many bad players. Votes. There's just so many bad players in the house. And then, like. And it's not like they're bad and also fun and likable. It's like they're bad and then they do stuff to make you be like, why are you here? Keanu, in this episode was getting under my skin. This man says Morgan, there's no way Vince is going to put you or I up because we're his number ones. Keanu, hold. Let me hold your hands when I tell you this. You have never, ever been Vince's number one at any time in this game. Not one once. This man does not care about you. Stand. Never mind. I said it. I've said too much. I'm done. I can't do it again.
Sasha Joseph
Keanu does not like blinders when it comes to men. He'll be like, slap me again right here, right here. So it feels good. It feels good when you do it.
Rob Cesternino
The entire house was unified, though, over Vince's nominations. No one was happy.
Matt Liguori
Not even Vince.
Rob Cesternino
Maybe Ashley. Yeah.
Chappelle
Can we. Can we just please. Ash. Vince has not liked Ashley since he put her on the block because of the shower.
Rob Cesternino
Right?
Chappelle
You want to talk about peaked at day one. Their conflict comes from week one. He still doesn't like Ashley. So when you're sitting here in Lauren's face, someone who you've been talking trash about Ashley to throughout the entire season going, I don't know, is you my number one or this lady who I just don't like at all? I don't know who I should. Who I would like to go out the house more. You my number one, who I've been promising to the final two this entire game or a lady who I've been begging y' all to get rid of the entire game every week no matter what. He is bursting the tears trying to get Ashley out of the out of the house. And yet here we are. This is not a decision. It should not be a decision. And yet. Yet here we are.
Matt Liguori
It's also even funnier because Vince thinks that putting Ashley up and sending her home, that would be the reason why Will and Rachel don't want to vote for Vince in the end. Not anything else that's happened this season. Just that you also evicted another judge.
Sasha Joseph
I just love when things work out for my faves favorite. That's what I care about.
Rob Cesternino
What is the reason that Ashley avoided the block? Was it just because Morgan said no? That's not an option.
Chappelle
Actually put in a lot of good work as well. Ashley is one of the few people who will go around the house and campaign like to prevent themselves going on the block. A lot of them will wait until they go up on the block and then start to try to maneuver. But Ashley, she has more information than most people because she talks to everybody. And so because of that or she talks to Vince and so that, that way she has information about Lauren. But, you know, because of that, she's able to maneuver around and kind of figure out what people are looking for, what they're looking for in an ally and give them what they want, as you can tell in this episode. So she's even talking about working with Keanu for a couple. A couple weeks. She's a very active player. And so between her and Morgan, it was like a combined. Combined effort to make sure she stayed off the block. She was trying to get Vince what he wanted, but then Morgan got to bring it home with the late night talks.
Rob Cesternino
Well, we saw Ashley then talk with Keanu and says, hey, pick me for the veto because I will if I win the veto, I will use it and I will take you down. And so Keanu and Ashley are feeling good, good pre veto ceremony.
Matt Liguori
And that's what we were hoping for. You know, feeds go down on Saturday and you're hoping that Ashley is going to get picked and she's going to win. And because she would have used it, she would have taken, I think, Keanu down. And that's why when he ultimately doesn't pick her, she's just like this idiot. I would have taken him down.
Chappelle
And to that I say, did Rachel teach you nothing? You watch this happen to Rachel every week. Week until jury, until. Until Rachel. Until he could not do it to Rachel anymore. He did this every week. Now it's not one week where Rachel did not go back to Keanu and say, keanu, I need to tell you something. And he didn't go and run it back to anybody else. He is the messiest player in the house. If you want to keep a secret, you never tell Keanu. And so to have a conversation about what you're going to do with Keanu and think he's going. Going along with you, it's not going to happen. That's just not how he operates.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. Morgan is not happy that Lauren is not on the block. And she talks to Vince about it and she says that basically, I feel like, you know, you're supposed to be my number one. You're not acting like it. Why can't Lauren go on the block?
Chappelle
I don't understand why you feel like you have to hold her hand and.
Sasha Joseph
Walk her to the block for her and sit her down and give her a blankie and a bottle and pat her back while she's drinking the milk.
Matt Liguori
Perfect. Yeah.
Chappelle
Is. Is this not what Morgan has been doing to Vince all season? Has she not been giving him his blankie? And rubbing his tummy when he's sick and giving him warm milk and cuddling with him at night. Like what? Like, lady, look in the mirror. This is crazy. But it's funny because even the show does a fairly decent job, I think, of, like, outlining that this could be a little bit of jealousy. You know, it's not just that Lauren is coming for Morgan, which she is, but also if those glances in the show, like the editors, they're really cool with these kind of things. When Lauren and Vince are talking, a lot of times they'll cut over to Morgan just to see what she's talking about, you know, just to see her facial expressions, because she doesn't like her. She doesn't like her. And I think she also. They're. They're fighting for his affection, whether it's the being his number one or maybe being his best friend. The house.
Rob Cesternino
And this has been a rivalry, you know, all season long. Going back to where it was the love triangle over Zach.
Sasha Joseph
Remember that guy?
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. It's like Vince inherited this love triangle. Not to say that there's a love angle between him and Lauren. That's not. There's not really evidence for that. But just from Morgan and Lauren have just been rivals from the beginning. Beginning?
Chappelle
Yeah.
Matt Liguori
I mean, this game has really shifted in such a big way because I, you know, remember when Mickey was in the house and Morgan's fighting for Mickey to be included in the Zach and Vince of it all, and then all of a sudden, Zach's gone, Mickey's gone, and now it's. You know, I kind of like the way that Ava was narrating the house being totally different now than it has been throughout the rest of the season, because it is. And now all of a sudden, Ava, who was voting with the judges, even though she wasn't with the judges because of Will, now she's with the other girl. So it's a whole different game ever since the Rachel of it all.
Rob Cesternino
So Keanu is realizing that, boy, it really is a totally different game. Where are all the men in the house that this house. Sasha is. Kiana says this is like a sorority house. Is The Big Brother 27 house like a sorority house?
Sasha Joseph
No. Like, come on. Such a hater. Just get, like, I think that Rush talk or Bama talk has really messed with people's heads on what sorority houses are. Oh, my God. Like, if anything, it's just like, besties, like roommates hanging out and that's it. And being bored.
Matt Liguori
He was so specific with his wording when he said we voted all the testosterone out of the house.
Chappelle
Right.
Matt Liguori
What he meant.
Chappelle
And Vince is sitting outside the door like, I'm here.
Matt Liguori
And he meant. He meant including. Including Vince. Yes.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. We had our players picked for the veto. Keanu ends up picking Morgan because she's a repeat veto winner. And Ashley's like, what the hell, Keanu?
Chappelle
Why do we try?
Matt Liguori
Yeah. And again Keanu convincing everybody that he is also a three time veto winner. He won two. Casey won one of those three p. Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
And Vince picks Lauren for the veto.
Matt Liguori
The drama.
Rob Cesternino
The drama.
Chappelle
Yeah. Cut to Morgan. Yeah. Hayden.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Morgan's like.
Matt Liguori
And Lauren, I. I liked hearing, I guess from her in the confessional that she was possibly like really thinking hard that she was potentially going to use this veto if she won. She's, you know, again, Vince, you laid out your cards in front of me. You told me what you were considering. Now I have to play my game. So the fact that it came down, it seemed to come down to the two of them of like the best chance to ultimately win this veto.
Chappelle
I was like, oh, this could have.
Matt Liguori
Been interesting either way.
Rob Cesternino
So there's a wild conversation that happens where Keanu talks to Ashley in the bathroom and Ava is in the stall. And then they're talking about, hey, you idiot, why didn't you pick me for the veto? And he explains why he had to pick Morgan. And they're talking about how well, Vince, maybe he will only let Morgan use the veto if she's gonna put Lauren on the block. And Ava, first thing, Keanu tries to walk in on Ava in the bathroom.
Matt Liguori
Hello.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, I don't know what day it is in the house. House very, maybe six, seven, very deep into the big brother season. And she's an aura painter. And so then she runs back out and goes to tell Lauren, hey, guess what I heard in the bathroom.
Matt Liguori
There's a very famous moment very similar to this in Big Brother Canada 3. Kevin, Martin, Cindy with an s. It's. It's bad. You check behind the door. You check behind the bathroom door while someone's in it. But you're in the bathroom. You're talking, you know, look at the door. I mean, obviously we can't have that high event expectation of Keanu but just such an avoidable mistake, just like everything Keanu's done.
Sasha Joseph
But don't you think that he just. I'm assuming that Ashley would tell me, like, shut up. Ava's in there.
Matt Liguori
They must have both walked in, I guess after Ava.
Sasha Joseph
And then Ava went, yes.
Matt Liguori
Oh, well, then she was happy to just let him.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, that's what I think.
Matt Liguori
She's messy and we love it.
Rob Cesternino
Unclear.
Chappelle
That's crazy. That's crazy.
Sasha Joseph
Let him do that.
Chappelle
That's wild. Especially considering like, like Matt pointed out, there's not a strategist for Miles. Right. So it's kind of like any other season. 60 something days into the house. No one's making these, these errors. You know what I'm saying? Like they, they. You know what to do. It be muscle memory by now. You walk in, you check the room, check the bunk beds, you know all that good stuff and then you start your conversation. But Keanu was lifestyle.
Matt Liguori
And now in the bathroom, she's just so sneaky. Not even intentionally.
Sasha Joseph
No, I think it was a setup.
Chappelle
Oh yeah, I think somebody trying to set me up.
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All Vince wants in the veto competition is for the nominations to stay the same. But. But that will not be the case as we get ready to play BB CSI. And to this I, I. It's 2025. I know we're on CBS still. What are we doing?
Sasha Joseph
I mean, it was okay to me, it's giving regular Big Brother comp. They could have added some pizzazz to the. The dodgeball.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, I feel like that they did a CSI challenge in Big Brother 23. I feel like very late in the game there was like some new, like, whether it was like CSI Cyber. They were like launching some new CSI program on cbs and there was some sort of, like, product placement tie in. I don't think we've gotten that tie in yet with any new CBS show. Maybe there are no new CBS shows.
Sasha Joseph
Knows Els is back.
Chappelle
Hey, man, I felt so good when I saw that ELSB commercial. I was like, we're back, man. I don't even watch Elsband. But something about seeing that lady between Big Brother and Survivor commercials is really.
Sasha Joseph
She working hard with her bags. Okay, Leave that lady alone.
Chappelle
Right? I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. I said at the beginning, and I was being dead ass honest, I did not see this challenge. I would. They got to explaining it and then I just, I woke up and they were like, Ed. Morgan was like, oh, okay, we're woo. So I missed all of it. What happened? Anything good?
Rob Cesternino
Nothing good.
Matt Liguori
Basically, if there was a soundboard, you know, you know, you've heard of a soundboard, and someone just pushed every single button on the soundboard. You got the bowling pin sound, the crash, the, the boom, the this, the that, as all the balls hit the hit the ground and, you know, a couple of resets. Morgan wins.
Rob Cesternino
Yes.
Matt Liguori
But it was close.
Sasha Joseph
Lauren almost won.
Matt Liguori
Yeah. Morgan was focused.
Chappelle
I saw.
Matt Liguori
I'm watching her do this and she's got her, you know, Morgan's got her hair slicked back. I'm like, it's Casey Clark. Like, I'm seeing the comp beast locked in. And then she wins the veto. She hits the button and she goes, let's go. And I'm like, oh, wow.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Matt Liguori
Oh, wow.
Rob Cesternino
And this was a motivational win for Morgan because she dedicates this one to all the Twitch streamers. And you know Chappelle's going to be locked in when she gets home for everybody back home. Who for the gamers.
Sasha Joseph
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Rob Cesternino
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Chappelle
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Rob Cesternino
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Sasha Joseph
Okay, honestly, if you win three times, I. You. You can say whatever the hell you.
Rob Cesternino
Say whatever you want. Okay? Vince tells us he should be over the moon, happy, but he's nervous about this.
Matt Liguori
Will Vince just ever have an easy week in the big brother house?
Rob Cesternino
Why does it always be ever worked out for him?
Chappelle
He's doing it to himself. He's doing it to himself. He likes this. He likes to be punished. He. At this point, he's getting nasty, y'. All. Yeah, it's, it's, it's. We're witnesses.
Sasha Joseph
He has some like, he has some interesting kinks, right? Like not a therapies or diagnosis.
Rob Cesternino
It's. It's 11:20, 20:00pm you can.
Chappelle
Yeah, it's late at night. It's not worth.
Matt Liguori
Actually, I'm gonna, I'm gonna still go to bed after this and wake up to them still arguing.
Rob Cesternino
Go to bed. That's what Morgan tells us, right?
Chappelle
Chappelle, he's on the 16th page of his Google search history, you know, and if he ever comes across. Bachelor's words, if he ever finds Morgan's Twitch Stream videos, I don't know, man. I don't know if he can make it.
Rob Cesternino
Sasha, tell us your theories on Vin.
Chappelle
No.
Sasha Joseph
The thing is, Sasha is the.
Rob Cesternino
Co host of a podcast called Mess Magnets where she talks about all the Mess with Kirsten McInnes. Can't you give us a little bit of mess here?
Sasha Joseph
No. Okay, here's the thing. I find item just personally, that if you would be in a situationship or dating somebody like Vince, this is the type of person that maybe, you know, you would cut you off from all your friends because your friends would be like, girl, if you're not standing up for yourself, y' all are constantly arguing, you're constantly crying, and then you get home and they probably would have like the craziest sex ever. You know? And that's probably what keeps them going. And it's just. It's too much. Okay? So I just think that this guy has some, like, interesting kink. It's too much for me. And. And I feel that. Cut off the cameras. Cut off the lights, and just give them 10 minutes. Just.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, no, you're. You're. You're wrong about that. This is. This is not a romantic relationship.
Sasha Joseph
First of all, for that romance, Morgan.
Rob Cesternino
And I have a very 100% platonic friendship. Okay, don't get it twisted, Chappelle.
Sasha Joseph
Say the line. Say the line.
Matt Liguori
That's exactly how people who have platonic friendships sound.
Chappelle
You should not let your friends get in the way of you putting. I mean, your girlfriend get in the way, you know, the love of your life. You know, it's a thing. It's a word in love.
Sasha Joseph
And miss somebody. I'm not like. I think people are confused. I am not saying they need to get married and fall in love to.
Chappelle
Get out your system. Yeah, scratch that itch. Tomorrow, I feel like they're gonna bury them. Tomorrow. Like, I really do feel like tomorrow we're gonna see a lot more of the cuddling and the pillow. The. Between the bodies.
Sasha Joseph
They should put a timer on the screen is what they need to put. They need to. Day one, here's it, like, 10:00pm, 11:00pm and if anything, put a ruler right to be like, this is where they started. This is where. Oh, no. Where's the pillow?
Chappelle
Wall.
Matt Liguori
Hey, Morgan, is it okay if I sleep with my shirt off? I'm just gonna lay here. However you want. Oh, okay. I'm just. I don't want to be uncomfortable.
Sasha Joseph
That's what I'm saying. It's like, ella. No, that's weird. It's like freshman college, freshman moves. If, like, get out of here.
Chappelle
If this is how Morgan treats her friends, sign me up. I'm next.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, we know.
Chappelle
I want to be a friend. Thank you for being a friend.
Sasha Joseph
Come on.
Chappelle
But you say it's just a friend. That don't put me. Put me in the game.
Rob Cesternino
Coach Biz marquee.
Chappelle
Yeah, or Mario. You know, whichever one.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, no, Mario. See, that's what I'm saying. The problem is people are getting lust and love confused. And I just think that when you're bored, you do stupid stuff. And if you're bored and you're like, okay, this works. Why not? You're gonna end up, like, ending up in bed with people you should not be in bed with.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, okay, well, Vince is going to get visited by the veto winner, Morgan, and they're getting hot at the right time and they're in the right place. And Morgan tells us she's gonna put in work. And I really like to see this in the diary room room, because I don't believe we've gotten this yet from her in the diary room of basically her setting up to us. Okay, I am going to work to manipulate Vince. We haven't gotten that.
Matt Liguori
No. And I feel like, yeah, the first time that I wanted to see this, we didn't get it. And that was when she very much helped keep Rachel off the block on Vince's last hoh. And of course, Rachel comes in and closes out that deal and make sure she's good. But Morgan was working that week, and anytime that Vince's hoh, she puts in the work. But obviously this was all her. It's the exact move that she wanted to have done Again, for better or worse, Vince, she's.
Rob Cesternino
She's ruining your game.
Sasha Joseph
$750,000.
Chappelle
Instead of putting up Lauren.
Sasha Joseph
A dream that you've had for 10 plus years. She's ruining your game.
Rob Cesternino
How.
Chappelle
Oh, how.
Sasha Joseph
How does that know your skin color. Whiny. And I am saying this, like, look at how I sound. You know what I mean?
Matt Liguori
And, you know, props to her because she recognizes all she has to do is keep. Keep talking, keep pushing, because he's going to cave. He does every time.
Chappelle
Yeah, he's gonna fall. And it. It's bad because she's not making any sense. She's just. She's just saying words. She's just like, yeah. And if Lauren doesn't ever sit on the block, she's automatically going to beat you. It's like, y' all don't even like Lauren. I don't want. Y' all don't want to vote for her. Y' all don't respect her as a player. Y' all talk about her all the time. Time. You don't have to vote for her. Morgan is acting like if you make it to the final two and Lauren's there, I'm not even gonna vote for you. Like, she's laid it on thick. And he's like, he doesn't know which way to turn. He's saying, oh, if you. If you go with her and you don't put her on the block, then you're gonna lose me forever. I'm like, vince, where the hell is she gonna go? Where is she gonna go? She. There's nowhere for her to go. She's not. But he can't bear to think about the idea that she won't be sleeping in the bed with him. And that's just. That's just too much for him. And honestly would not.
Matt Liguori
He would not sleep. He already doesn't. He wouldn't sleep.
Chappelle
He doesn't sleep.
Sasha Joseph
Like, end up downstairs.
Rob Cesternino
Okay.
Chappelle
He's a flower.
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Chappelle
Yes. Okay.
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Sasha Joseph
We should give them those masks. Amanda sleep masks. And then just be like, Morgan might.
Rob Cesternino
Have use for them.
Sasha Joseph
All I'm saying is then they'll be like, oh, no, I didn't really. I thought that was a plan pillow.
Matt Liguori
They'll use it as the barrier between them.
Rob Cesternino
I see in the chat. Is it the 96?
Chappelle
Well, that doesn't look fun.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah.
Chappelle
Okay. I don't like that at all. That's not. I don't want to do that.
Sasha Joseph
You're facing.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
You're not facing.
Rob Cesternino
Do you 96 how? Yeah, I think back to back.
Sasha Joseph
Tell me how. I really.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Chappelle
That don't even go back. Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Okay.
Chappelle
That did look. That did look uncomfortable.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. All right, so Morgan's gonna put in her work and she even then goes on to tell us, and then look. And if Lauren doesn't win the blockbuster, it's going to be very tempting.
Chappelle
Yeah. I like this so much. I do. Because. But I. I don't know if she has it in her. I don't know if she has it in her. And that's why I'm kind of, like, holding out hope. I want Morgan to be like, you did not go through all of this to get that girl on the block just so she could touch the block one time and then still be around vying for the, like, the attention of your man. I'm sorry, you're number one in the game. Like, you did not do all this work for this lady to still be in the house.
Rob Cesternino
It would be great if Morgan then, you know, goes to go evict Lauren and drops the Rachel. Nobody gets in between me and my man.
Chappelle
She would have had to see Rachel season. They don't know the lore. They don't know the lore. No.
Sasha Joseph
And listen, she's keeping up her like, this is just like a producer can't.
Rob Cesternino
Just like slip her in note.
Chappelle
Yeah. Like, hey, Rachel would have said this. Rachel's gonna love this. This, this will get you some jury votes and probably afp.
Sasha Joseph
You know what? I'm surprised Chappelle. I. Before I cut you off, she hasn't said he's like a brother to me because that's the final nail.
Chappelle
She knows, she knows not to say that.
Sasha Joseph
Cuz when she says that, that's how you know.
Chappelle
Yeah. When she says that, we're like, it's over.
Rob Cesternino
It's over.
Sasha Joseph
They're together, they're getting kiss.
Chappelle
Turn up. Yeah. There's a moment in the episode we kind of glossed over it, but Vince is like, morgan, it's like you're breaking up with me in the game. I. The in the game is crazy. Like that it was that, that was a pregnant pause. It took a while to get there. So I said, in the game. It's almost like somebody like, somebody like, like he caught a glimpse of himself in the mirror or something and was like, oh, you know, that's who. I'm too real.
Rob Cesternino
Too real.
Matt Liguori
Wind it back.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Chappelle
Freaking out.
Sasha Joseph
I just, Yeah. I wish that, like, Morgan pulls the J Wows, you know? What's her opening line in Jersey Shore? After I have sex with them, I rip their heads off. You know what I mean? Do that.
Rob Cesternino
She might have said that on Twitch. I think we actually met. We might have that clip.
Chappelle
I, I. You never sent me that, by the way. Yeah, I think Big Brother would be way more entertaining if they had the Jersey Shore taglines like the Real Housewives. Ye.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Chappelle
Like, it could change every week. Like, like, if you think I'm gonna vote out one of my allies, you're right. You know? Exactly.
Matt Liguori
Sit on the block and just be upon. You're wrong.
Chappelle
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Like. Or Kelly, you think I'm gonna volunteer again?
Matt Liguori
You gotta take Ava off the block.
Chappelle
Yeah, I don't care.
Sasha Joseph
Ava off the block, not myself. Oh, my God.
Rob Cesternino
It's just, again, I just, I never hit my Target. Even in the battle.
Chappelle
Bathroom wink.
Sasha Joseph
You know, Keanu's has to be so, like, horrible. We again, basic misogyny. Too many women.
Rob Cesternino
All the testosterone is out of this house.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, my God.
Rob Cesternino
All right, well, we got to the veto ceremony, and this was an interesting veto ceremony in a lot of ways because here comes Morgan and. And she says to Ava, okay, what did you say? Come up here and shake something.
Matt Liguori
Come shake a little something.
Rob Cesternino
Shake a little something. Yeah.
Chappelle
And. And Ava, with a confused look on her face, did exactly what she was told. She got up and she started shaking that thing all Ava gave us throughout the episode. I was happy for Ava this week, though. She got the veto played on her, and that was her goal.
Matt Liguori
I mean, we. We know Vince does everything Morgan says. Apparently Ava does too. This is Morgan's Ava.
Sasha Joseph
Fake spineless jellyfish. You saw the face that she was making when Morgan won. And then look at you now.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Bending over.
Rob Cesternino
I did like, I did like the conversation between Morgan and Ava where Ava says to Morgan, like, hey, listen, I'm an action based person. You should use the veto on me. Where Morgan was considering using it on Keanu earlier. And Ava's closing argument was, hey, let go. Let God.
Chappelle
People tried to tell me on Twitter, no on Blue Sky. I don't be talking about big Brother on Twitter like that. It's dirty over there. It's a dirty game over there on Twitter. But on Blue sky with the size of bluer. The conversation came up about if Ashley could beat Ava in the final too. And to that I say, look at this. This is Ava's pitch for the veto. Let go and let God.
Sasha Joseph
That's. I think Minnie's lying, right?
Chappelle
She said yolo one time. That lady in the final two ain't gonna do nothing. I have to go eat her up, like, and spit her out. It's gonna be embarrassing. So I'm kind of. Kind of rooting for it. Let Ashley do her thing. I'm thinking the spirit of Gina Marie is gonna walk back.
Matt Liguori
I was gonna say, I. You know, we thought it was gonna be bad when Lauren hits the final two chair and she has nothing to. To say. Whatever Ava comes up with could be worse.
Sasha Joseph
No, I think Ava will have, like, a little cute clap back and then it just won't land. Bless her.
Matt Liguori
Like, the questions are going to come her way and she's just going to have the wildest responses like, you know what, Morgan, I just. I loved you in the game and you used the veto on me, but we just couldn't work together. I don't know what to tell you.
Sasha Joseph
You just couldn't get up under from.
Chappelle
It is what it is. It is. It is.
Matt Liguori
You told me to shake my butt and you know, I just don't like when people tell me what to do.
Sasha Joseph
You grabbed me.
Chappelle
I was touched.
Rob Cesternino
If you liked my game, vote for me. If not, then it is what it is.
Matt Liguori
Let go and let God.
Rob Cesternino
Let go. Let God. You know. All right, should we talk about some live feeds and any updates we have going into. Is there a lot to talk about from the today?
Chappelle
No more waffling.
Rob Cesternino
A lot of waffles. All right.
Chappelle
All right. Here, let me play.
Rob Cesternino
We play the buzzer and then let's talk about tomorrow night is going to be double eviction. Baby. Here we go. The office of civil defense has issued the following message.
Chappelle
This is a spoiler warning. A spoiler warning means that an actual.
Rob Cesternino
Spoiler against this country has been detected and that protective action should be taken. Got the RJP buff out like the terrible towel Chappelle.
Chappelle
Why'd you say that? I was about to go with you and have a moment. You have to go ruin it with the nastiness.
Rob Cesternino
How. All right, so double evictions coming up. Seems like it's getting bad for Lauren on this block.
Matt Liguori
Not great. Everyone seems still a little up in the air as far as I can tell with some of these, like, hairier votes.
Chappelle
Votes.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Okay, so we're. We're at seven right now. And so then there's going to be how many votes? There's. Is it four votes?
Matt Liguori
There's four voters. Vince breaks the tie. There's two scenarios where there's a pretty good chance that Vince could have to break the tie. So, yeah, if. If it's Keanu and Kelly on the block, I think we're looking at Vince having to break that tie because Ava and Lauren are going to want to save Kelly. Ashley and Morgan are going to want to save Keith.
Rob Cesternino
Okay, so in the scenario where Vince has to break the tie for Lauren, is he going to take her out or is he going to keep her because we problems. We can't believe what he's saying in any conversations.
Chappelle
That is the problem. That is definitely the problem because there have been moments where Vince has been considering like, well, maybe it's not the worst thing in the world that Lauren goes. You know, it's not like he is like still kind of like Morgan, if you do this like that. That that came and went. He's already gone to like, well, if she's gone, then what. What happens? You know? And so I think there's a. There's a good chance, depending on probably who talks to him last or how much work Morgan puts in, that he would just go ahead and just do it.
Rob Cesternino
Don't we want to see that live on television where he has to stand up in front of the house and then they're like, all right, Vince, it's a 2, 2 tie. You're going to need to break the tie. He will be just like be in the fetal position having to try to do this.
Matt Liguori
Lauren will be inconsolable on that chair next to Julie Chen. It will an all timer, but I could see him doing it. I really could. I mean, by no means do I think it's his top pick right now, but I think one of the things besides everything that Morgan is trying to influence him on is that he wants the three girls to be broken up. He wants one of them out. And Kelly's still going. You know, Kelly going still makes more sense. But if it's.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Matt Liguori
Lauren versus Keanu.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. If it was Lauren versus Kelly, is that a. Is that a tie scenario? Like, who would. Who would it be a tie against?
Matt Liguori
No, because Keanu is going to vote with Ashley and Morgan on that one. But it's just a matter of where does.
Rob Cesternino
I guess where do more between Keanu and Lauren potentially.
Matt Liguori
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Chappelle
And that's wild because I. I've been talking all day about how Keanu has not been playing the greatest game, but he has been winning competitions. And although Lauren has too, we suspect that Keanu probably has it in him to win some more. I mean, he's been winning these blockbusters. It's really hard to get him out of the game. Game. He's not somebody that everybody can trust. But for the most part, he really doesn't betray Vince too much. I think that you could, you could definitely squint and be like, hey, get Keanu out now. Get him out right now. Because then I don't have to deal with him later on. But Morgan doesn't see Keanu as that type of threat. She's working with him to some extent and Lauren is just never going to work with that side of the house. When I say she doesn't talk to them about the game, she doesn't. She. And when she does, she don't look at him. And so, yeah, it's. It's just so easy for. For Morgan to be like, no, I need to put my foot down. Lauren needs to go. I think that Leaving Keanu in the game, I be a mistake.
Rob Cesternino
But then we want to see where and listen, I enjoy having Keanu in the show also, so I'm not clamoring for Keanu to leave. But don't you want to see Vince have to break the tie in front of everybody and then pick to have Lauren stay and just watch how mad Morgan is and we're going to see it play out in a double eviction. Then right after that he.
Chappelle
He don't have the. He doesn't have the guts to do it in front of Morgan. That's why I need Lauren to go ahead and win the blockbuster because then.
Sasha Joseph
I think he might vote Lauren out. I. I'm with you.
Chappelle
Yeah, he. Yeah, he's not going to do that in front of Morgan. He's not going to keep her in front of Morgan. But if Lauren wins the blockbuster and she stuck around, there's more time for that to happen. There's more time for us to build to the big face crack moments because I thought Lauren handled going up on the block. Okay. You know, when they put her on the block before AA's whole, you know. Well, I mean, after a's whole thing and she gets up on on the block, she kind of just like she held it together. I really thought she'd be more broken up about it.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. So if Lauren wins the blockbuster, it's Keanu versus Kelly does. That's also potentially a tie scenario that.
Matt Liguori
Vince might have to break 100%. Yeah. Because Ava and Lauren are going to vote to keep Kelly. Ashley and Morgan are going to vote to keep Keanu and try to break up the three women. And Vince will have to choose a side which will be Morgan's side.
Chappelle
Ok.
Matt Liguori
But also in that scenario, they want Kelly out anyway. So that's a pretty easy one for him to break a top high four.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. And then we go into a double eviction. Vince can't play hoh and that sets up a very interesting night. Do we have a odds on favorite of who might go home in the double eviction?
Matt Liguori
Usually like an easy person to get out. Right.
Rob Cesternino
And we do expect that the blockbuster will end in the first eviction tomorrow.
Matt Liguori
I think that's confirmed with the announcer voice at the end. I think he said the final BB blockbuster and then the double eviction night, baby.
Chappelle
And then.
Rob Cesternino
And then we're gonna find out who's on a buz were the mystery guest.
Chappelle
Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. I think. I think that this is the time. So, Vince, you've been a brat this entire season to, to and, and and and your Brett tamer Morgan has been taking the lead on things. You've been pushing back like a, like the brat that you are, but she's been taking the dominant role here. But once you put yourself in that position, she now has to carry you. You put yourself in a submissive position now you need to dominate, step up. This is Morgan's hoh to win. She needs to go and win this and keep her boy safe. You done did all this to get Lauren out. It would be a travesty to do all of this to get Lauren out just for your number one, your other number one, the one you've been fighting so hard to go off out next. So I think that if Lauren needs to win this hoh or somebody needs to be prepared to say events because he would be such a juicy target to get rid of.
Rob Cesternino
Hypothetically, Morgan wins the double eviction hoh, then she's going to put Lauren on. On the block. And who, assuming Kelly went home first.
Matt Liguori
Lauren and key and Keanu or Ava.
Chappelle
Right.
Matt Liguori
Well, I, I was interested, intrigued by what she said tonight about how she wants to keep Ava around because she knows she can beat her in competitions. So I wouldn't be surprised. I guess it could be either way. And I don't know, sometimes you have.
Rob Cesternino
In these double eviction scenarios where you have like you're trying to backdoor somebody, but I think at 6 and everybody's gonna get to play in the veto. So it's not like that. If you wanted to take out Keanu, you'd keep him out of the veto competition. So everybody's gonna play the veto. Yeah.
Matt Liguori
Because if Lauren can't go, they want Keanu gone in that scenario. If Kelly is already gone at this point, they, you know, big comp thread time, time to get him out of there. But okay.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, should be an interesting night on Thursday where we don't typically get a two hour double eviction episode. Typically, you know, we get a double eviction episode in a one hour of Big Brother. So I mean, we should get our two evictions and we probably have time to have Julie do interviews with everybody and so should be potentially an interesting night.
Matt Liguori
Yeah. Plus the BB unlocked mystery guest will probably be on stage for what, 20 minutes.
Rob Cesternino
Buzzworthy mystery guest. Sasha, do you have any guesses of who it could be?
Sasha Joseph
I mean, the streets are saying, right, James Gunn, who definitely said he was mad at Rachel. Right. So I, I'm like, why did James.
Rob Cesternino
Gunn say he was mad at Rachel?
Sasha Joseph
He's like a Big Brother fan. I remember.
Matt Liguori
At her or about her?
Sasha Joseph
No. Like, this was a while ago. I don't remember the context anymore. Rachel had done something that, like, the. Oh, my gosh. The edit was, like giving weird. Like, it was just a weird edit. I don't remember. Someone needs to remind me the chat. But I already seen the video of him.
Rob Cesternino
That'd be a big get.
Chappelle
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Where he was talking about it and he was like, oh, I'm watching Big Brother, blah, blah, blah. And Rachel. What is she doing? Or something. Frustrated with Rachel. Thank you.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Maybe he can come in and fix the BB comics.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, that's funny.
Chappelle
That'd be nice.
Sasha Joseph
He should do, like, actual comics. Yeah.
Chappelle
Okay. All right.
Rob Cesternino
Anything else? BB27, we want to say here at the tonight.
Chappelle
The gameplay has been abysmal at every turn as a. As a Vince defender. It was a really tough week for me, man.
Rob Cesternino
Like, not.
Chappelle
Not even, like, with the Morgan stuff aside, just strategically to get rid of your other number one. It's. It's crazy. It just doesn't make any sense. I think right now we're all looking towards the end game and trying to decide who would be a winner that we would, like, respect or, like, what would be the best outcome for gameplay wise. And I think at this point, I think some people have said it so many times, we're gonna get this the winner that this season deserves. Right. It's just. It's whatever this season brings us, that's what we're gonna get. And we're just gonna have to put this one in a little bubble because despite the bad gameplay, this is probably the most entertained I have been at this point in a Big Brother season in a long time.
Rob Cesternino
No, we really can't knock it where the season was ruined when they had the whole thing with Rachel. But somehow, like, there is still intrigue and interest. And we can't always say that with big brother. With two weeks to go.
Matt Liguori
Yeah. And we're down to 11 days now, I believe is the official number. So we're gonna fly through. We'll be at final five by the end of tomorrow and have to imagine another somehow eviction happens between now and next week because they got to get down to four in time to do the HOH Part one, Part two.
Rob Cesternino
But they did it right with the overall pacing with the exception of the White Locust where I've been saying for many years that they need to keep. Keep more people in the house longer. And then you can speed it up at the very end because when you just get down to where there's only five people left and there's four weeks or whatever, it's just such a slog. So they've done a good job with the pacing. Other than. Other than that, how is the play, Mrs. Lincoln? Yeah, exactly.
Chappelle
It feels. It feels fitting of this season, though, for them to do something massively wrong and it still work out for them. You know, like that's. That's this season. These people, people putting up their number ones, eliminating their best players and all kinds of stuff. And then like, somehow still. Still checking.
Matt Liguori
So you're saying Ashley could still win?
Sasha Joseph
I. Dear God, I hope that would be so good.
Rob Cesternino
I really felt tonight that the show was starting to give you the glimmer of the Morgan is, you know, really pulling the puppet strings tonight.
Chappelle
Well, she got one puppet and it's Vince and it's a powerful puppet. Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
It was like, whoa, whoa, who more.
Rob Cesternino
I felt like that they were sort of hedgin. They were giving you that a little bit with Ashley tonight, but I really felt like that I thought the vibes for production were shifting to. They are pulling for a. I mean, they're probably most pulling for a Keanu win, but I think that they would be very satisfied with a Morgan win.
Chappelle
Yeah.
Matt Liguori
And those are the top contenders to keep winning comps as we go forward. So, you know, they. They know which way to edit.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. All right, let's talk about what else we have coming up here for everybody. Everybody, of course. Check out the slop. And it was another very sloppy week as Jenny Autumn joined Chappelle and I to talk about everything going on, including so many clips from Morgan's Twitch stream. I mean, Morgan's really becoming. I don't know about afp, but she's definitely becoming the sfp, the slop's favorite player here. As we come down the stretch here. Check that out over on Patreon. Patreon robinswebsite.com patron. Then tomorrow night join Taryn Armstrong and this guy Quinn will be joining Taryn and I for the double eviction recap. That's going to be at a special time tomorrow night, 10:15pm Eastern for the double eviction recap, baby. And then I will also be busy Thursday for your boy as I will be doing the Issa look preview with Bryce Isaiah as Bryce will talk about Everybody's photos from Survivor 49 and talk about his picks to go far in Survivor 49. Of course, you can join us during Survivor 49 in New York City, which I think maybe a couple of seats might be available. Braviswebsite.com events and. And then I'll be coming to your town. Sasha. I just posted my video tickets are on sale to the public. As I posted that finally the patrons, they got their pick of all the seats, but we've opened up more tickets to the general public. Go to robertswebsite.comevents for that. That's going to be on November 5th in San Francisco then. All right, that, that's what they say in the comments on so many of the podcasts. Robert stole the show, but danc the Stars, Sasha and Matt are back together to talk about the big Dancing with the Stars season. That's back.
Sasha Joseph
Such a fun, fun premiere episode. We got lots of good dancers. So this, this has been a good, good show.
Matt Liguori
Yeah, we have a lot of fun guests coming up, maybe even Big Brother alumni next week. So definitely check out out Dancing with the Stars this season. Reality TV winner Dylan Efron is out there.
Rob Cesternino
Rob was in attendance.
Matt Liguori
Yeah, Boston Rob and Chrishell.
Rob Cesternino
I don't normally like dancing, but I'll go for my friend.
Matt Liguori
So, yeah, it's off to a really, really fun start. It's Dancing with the Stars on fire. Lately, the ratings are through the roof. So come hang out with us. We're live every Tuesday night.
Rob Cesternino
We know Dancing with the Stars.com to subscribe and check out Matt and Sasha every every week. Watch it on YouTube as well on the RHAP YouTube channel. We know Dancing with the Stars. Okay. And then of course you want to be chatting with the stars, go to chat BCC where you could check out. We got so many Big Brother alumni. Big Brother chat is the hottest thing going over on chat. BCC plus Amazing Race chat is starting up also. They've got almost all the big Brother amazing racers there. Find out what they're saying. Watch along the episodes with them. Go to robinswebsite.com VIP chat for that. And again, thanks to our sponsors, they're such good sports. For all of the things that we're saying about the manta sleep mask, get 10% off mantasleep.com use promo code RHAP27. All right, Chappelle, what else is coming up for you?
Chappelle
I'm having a great time podcasting these days with you, of course. Course about the slop. It's always fun content, but you gotta make sure you get behind the paywall to see that. People ask me all the time like, I can't find a slot, but patreon.com RJP that will help you find that intentional.
Rob Cesternino
There's a lot of people. We don't want to find the slot.
Chappelle
Yeah, that's where Rob really unleashes y'. All. He's a freaky frog behind the paywall. And so you gotta go. It's worth the money. I'll just say that then you can catch. I think me and Kirsten are talking about Love con revenge on the next nothing but Netflix podcast that should become dropping between now and next week. So check that out. Then I think I have. Oh, Chantel and I are talking about Flavor of Love season two. I'm very excited. She's about to find out what a safari is, and I cannot wait. So check that out live on our YouTube channel tomorrow at 5 Eastern, I believe on the recap kickback YouTube channel. YouTube.com recap kickback. Go over there and show your boy some love. Hit that subscribe button and then check out what me and Mari have coming your way, too. The season premiere of Beauty and Black Season 2 is back and we are here to talk about the shenanigans with Matt Scott this week and next week on recap Kickback. Subscribe and show some love. Follow on all social media platforms at recap Kickback.
Rob Cesternino
Sasha, what's going on? You just love Chappelle's plugs.
Sasha Joseph
Just. I love Beauty and Black. Of course you do. I love their coverage of it. I'll say that.
Rob Cesternino
Okay, what else is coming up for you?
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, you can check out Mess magnets where Kristen McInnes and I are talking all the latest celebrity scandals, drama, and more. Ned, put out a podcast. You know, there are clips out there that I'll watch. I won't watch the podcast. Cardi B's pregnant. She finally announced it. So listen, is she the drama? Am I the drama? Check. Check it all out on mess magnets.com okay.
Rob Cesternino
All right. And then, Matt, what's coming up for you again?
Matt Liguori
Dancing with the Stars. Come hang out with us. We know dancingwiththestars.com make sure you hop in the Facebook group. Facebook.com group/rhap DWTS and very active so far, a lot of fun. Anything specific on the Facebook group, Rob? Looks like they had something to say.
Rob Cesternino
No, no, check it out. A lot of fun. And yeah, I've heard from so many of the patrons that they're so happy. Dancing with the Stars is back. So very excited to have the coverage back.
Matt Liguori
And then on the free agents podcast, talking to Brian Scally every week about the challenge and if you want more Big Brother content once the season is over, if you want Amman content because he's mia, a little busy with school. But if you want to check us out on the Diary Room podcast as well, we're talking all through every player in Big Brother history trying to find the best one and we'll get there sometimes day. But yeah, we know. Dancingwithstars.com Come hang out.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. Also some other fun stuff going on with Survivor. It's going to be a big week of Survivor coming up. We have the Survivor 49 draft which is coming up on Sunday night. So be on the lookout for that. We also have there's this Survivor influencer special episode that they did where they dropped dropped off 8 influencers in Fiji and basically had them play Survivor for a couple of days. I'm going to get together with Steven Fishback. We're going to talk about this and treat it like a normal episode of Survivor. So be sure to check that out. And then for our friends over at Pluto tv, I'm going to be doing another watch along for Survivor on Pluto TV on my Instagram coming up on Tuesday night to kick off the new Survivor season. And of course we are going to be back with all the Survivor coverage coming up next week on Wednesday night. So thank you so much for joining us. I love to read what you have to say in the comments. Take care everybody. Have a good one. Bye. Rhap fans know I spent my life breaking down Survivor and Big Brother strategy, but what about strategy for real life? That's why I love the podcast all the Hacks. It's hosted by Chris Hutchins. He is the goat of life hacks and I love life hacks wherever I can get them. Now Chris, he's sold two companies, he's racked up millions of rewards points and figured out how to travel around the world business class without paying business class prices. Whether you're looking to level up your travel money or relationship, there's an episode of all the Hacks for you. I just listen to an episode, Top 50 Ways to Upgrade your life, money and travel. I use this. This summer I emailed the hotel before our anniversary trip. There was a bottle of champagne waiting for us in the hotel. Who was looking like the hero? It was me. I'm sorry, Chris. Every week Chris brings on incredible guests, people like Gary V. Tony Hawk even, and breaks down their playbooks in a way that you can actually use. Who doesn't want to know how to book business class seats for economy prices or earn up to 20% back on everything you buy. I know I do. So if you're ready to travel better, spend smarter and find ways to beat the system. You know where to go. Search all the hacks. That's all the hacks in your podcast app. Hit follow and start upgrading your life today.
Date: September 18, 2025
Host: Rob Cesternino
Panel: Chappelle, Sasha Joseph, Matt Liguori
This two-hour late night recap breaks down one of the most loaded episodes yet of BB27: Zingbot returned, a jam-packed HOH and Veto set the stage for a frenetic week, and the ongoing drama between Vince, Morgan, Lauren, and the rest of the house took center stage. The discussion focuses on Morgan’s aggressive social and strategic hustle, Vince’s chaotic indecision, shifting alliances, and what the live feed action reveals about the precarious state of the house ahead of a double eviction.
Morgan’s Transformation: The night’s edit reframes Morgan from a potential showmance participant to a strategic powerhouse who “put in every possible second” of social maneuvering to sway Vince’s HOH decisions.
Vince’s Spinelessness: Vince is caricatured as indecisive, emotionally needy, and easily manipulated.
Vorgan (Vince + Morgan) Speculation: Debate rages as to whether Morgan has any real interest in Vince, or if she’s purely gaming.
Lauren’s Perennial Danger: Everyone recognizes Lauren’s status as Vince’s “other number one” is on razor’s edge, making for compelling, unpredictable feeds.
Zingbot’s Return [23:01–35:01]:
Other Notable Zings:
Vince’s HOH: Indecision & Emotional Turmoil:
Ashley’s Subtle Game:
Veto Comp: CSI Parody & Morgan’s Comp Beast Edit [68:00–69:41]:
Morgan’s Diary Room Strategy:
|Timestamp|Topic| |----------|--------------------------------| |05:38–14:41|Morgan’s strategic edit; Vorgan drama; Lauren’s dilemma| |16:06–20:05|Panel’s ideal final five/four; who to evict| |23:01–39:47|Zingbot roast; house reacts; analysis of how the show frames women in showmances| |49:31–51:46|Vince’s agonizing HOH decision; Morgan’s social maneuvering| |68:00–70:09|CSI-themed veto competition; Morgan’s comp win and streamer shoutout| |74:45–77:05|Morgan's DR manipulation reveal; endgame speculation|
Note:
Coverage skipped over all ads, sponsorships, intros, and outros per instruction.
All strategic and social gamepoints, memorable quotes, and pivotal moments are timestamped to the episode's actual content.