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Trent Armstrong
Hello everyone and welcome to Rob Has a Podcast. I'm your host, Trent Armstrong and we are here tonight to recap a late night episode of the final five HOH and nominations here for Big Brother 27. Joining me tonight, we've got a very funny guy. Thinks he's funny.
Brendan
He's a funny guy.
Trent Armstrong
How you doing, Scally?
Scally
Oh, Taron. This is a treat. I get to spend time with my boys. Boys gender inclusive. I'm very excited to be here. It's a shortened week, but my attention span stays the same.
Trent Armstrong
Yes. And also joining us, of course, someone honored to be their streamer.
Asia
I'm so honored to be your streamer.
Trent Armstrong
It's Asia. How you doing, Asia?
Asia
Hello. I'm doing well. I am glad we are in the final week of this season because I had a dream a couple nights ago that Vince cut his mustache off and then I woke up and found out, oh, that wasn't true. I don't want to be dreaming about this show.
Brendan
Yes.
Trent Armstrong
Well, tonight's podcast is brought to you by Pluto tv, the place where you can watch the feeds, which is pretty cool. But we do have one. One other thing to. To do. It's some. Somebody's at the. Hold on. Somebody's at the door. It's. It's Mr. Rachel Riley.
Brendan
Oh, wait, which show is this? Oh, my God.
Trent Armstrong
This is the. This is the in the middle of the night one.
Brendan
Oh, totally threw me off. Sorry about that. I was really excited.
Trent Armstrong
Brandon, how you doing, guys?
Brendan
I got my shirt on, you know.
Trent Armstrong
Okay. I love Rachel's shirt.
Brendan
That's right. Good, good hanging in there. My, my, my last week of the longest endurance big brother I've ever participated in. So, you know, like I said, I'm starting to feel like Taryn, I really think, like, this is what Fed Taren feels like at the end of this. Like you guys just been run through the ringer. I'm exhausted, I'm tired. I'm ready just to crown a winner and be done with it. Doesn't really matter. I think Morgan's got it, but who knows, right?
Trent Armstrong
What, what's, what's the harder competition? Holding on to a slippery wiener or watching Vince and Morgan play slippery wiener?
Brendan
Oh, my God. Seriously, I mean, watching them for hours on end. First of all, like I said, I, I'm nominating you for the President Dental Medal of Freedom. I'm, I'm going to write my congressperson and just see if there's a shot in, in this, in this administration right now. Because you are doing the Lord's work. If there ever has been some work done, you know.
Trent Armstrong
Thank you. Thank you. Listen, listen, I think, I think, I think we got a shot.
Brendan
I know what them being together or.
Trent Armstrong
I mean, I, I think it, hey, it's not zero percent exactly.
Brendan
It's not, it's non zero. It's the aesthetics of the, the situation, I believe.
Trent Armstrong
Right.
Asia
I think we have solved for X. I think we've seen what Morgan is like with a guy that she really likes, and that's when Zach was in the house. What we're seeing here now is, oh, that's so cute. He has a crush on me. I'll give him what he wants. I'll spend time with him. I'll tell him the feeling is mutual. I don't think they stand a chance the second Morgan steps out of the house.
Trent Armstrong
I think their bigger issue is all of the things she's going to find out about the, what he said and did in the house behind her back is going to be the bigger issue. I, I, you know, I, I think she's, I think she's into it at the moment, but, like, there's a lot to learn.
Brendan
I mean, is she, is she like, is, I mean, I want her to be ruthless. I mean, I really, I really just want to see your gut, Vince, on like, national television. Like, like a deer from hunting. Like, just like make him, like, make him cry and just, and just like, you know, finish, finish him like Mortal Kombat, you know, And I would just be like, that was vicious and was very hard to watch. But Morgan, he, you're now in the upper echelon of big brother winners. Because she, she was playing him the whole time. Is she. I mean, that's what I, I just have a hard time. It's like, will she, Won't she? Are we going back and forth all the time about whether she does like him or she's using him or she, you know, Is there any convincing evidence?
Trent Armstrong
I think it's both. I think she likes him and is using him.
Brendan
Okay. Okay.
Trent Armstrong
Personally, it's hard.
Scally
I don't usually, I don't sleep at the foot of the bed of a person I like. Usually. But he. There are obstacles.
Asia
Right.
Brendan
Super weir, by the way.
Asia
And that's her. Everything at this point is her decision. He told her, look, everything. That it's all up to you. Now, at this point, she could be sleeping her head at the headboard, but she is choosing not to.
Brendan
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but weird. At the foot of the bed. I don't know why there. Like a puppy. Is that okay? You know, it's like. Yeah. By the fire. By the fireplace. Not by the bed. Come on.
Trent Armstrong
It is. It is so weird.
Brendan
It's.
Trent Armstrong
It really is like going to your mistress's house and then choosing to sleep on opposite ends of the bed and being like, this is okay. Right? Because, like, there are plenty of other beds she could choose from. So it's so strange.
Brendan
And they've also got, like a week to go. Like, you got it in their heads. Be thinking, like, are we gonna do this? Or what's going on here? I mean, like, the sexual dungeon here is just crazy. I mean, I, I, if they like each other, they don't. I mean, just kids or something. For the love of God.
Asia
To your point, Brendan, I think that, like, can she be ruthless? Like, given all of this stuff, I don't think she feels like she has to because she knows she can beat him.
Brendan
Yeah. Yeah. And that's probably true. That probably is correct. I know it's a pipe dream, you know.
Trent Armstrong
Well, she managed to do something.
Brendan
I'm pooping my pants.
Asia
Do I take advantage of this chance to flush my number ones? Number two. I didn't even catch that the first time.
Brendan
You know, this is going to be hilarious, guys. They're all going to get it. We're talking about poop. Because, you know, the whole thing.
Scally
I feel good about myself having not made the connection personally.
Trent Armstrong
Brendan, did you, did you catch. She also. I, and I fully believe this was not intentional, but I. She also did a little homage to Rachel Riley.
Asia
I am not about to let Anybody come in between me and Vince making it to that final two?
Brendan
Oh, okay. All right. I feel like her man, though.
Trent Armstrong
Getting rid of Rachel Riley has sort of like.
Brendan
Yeah, that's used in her true. She's like, me and my May best friend, they had to like, record that, like, four times, probably because she kept messing it up. Oh, man. Yeah. This is so weird. I mean, like you said, I've been listening to your live feed updates and, like, it is nice to have something to talk about because traditionally this is like a very painful part of Big Brother where you're like, we're just waiting for somebody to die and the three other people to compete, two of which we probably know are going to win and one's going to take third. It's like, are they or are they not going to take that third place person is like the big talk of the town. So to have something as messy as it is, I think it is. It is good. So it is a little bit better than. Than not having something here. So. But it's just like, I don't know. Again, it's weird watching these people, like, dance around each other and just pretend like, I don't know. I don't know what's going on here. Again, I keep hearing like, the. It doesn't feel like high school. It literally feels like a fre year, like, thing where you're just discovering the other's opposite sex and you're like, I want to kiss her. Kind of. Can I write her a note? You know? I don't know.
Asia
Yeah, it's like, I can't hold her hand, but I want to.
Trent Armstrong
She holds her hand.
Brendan
I mean, and then the Morgan thing, like. Like being all shocked by the. By the Zingbot was just also another one, which is like, Yeah. I mean, I kind of do wish they had done both of them, like, with a solid zing about it. I think that would have been great. They definitely could just doubled up and been like, well, you guys are always together anyways. You know, I mean, it wouldn't have been hard, but I think she took. She really took that a heart. It was like, whoa, whoa. You know, it's like, I don't get with their. Who's putting that out there? You know?
Scally
Understandable. She would take it to heart. But when that's followed up with, like, I'm sad. Let's go to bed, honey. Like, there's a problem.
Trent Armstrong
I feel like you could have done the exact same thing for Vince. You just end it by, say, instead of saying his girlfriend you just say, like, what do you call all of this? And you say single.
Brendan
Yeah. Right. It's like, wait, does Zingpot know something? Like, don't worry, everyone knows something. And so. Yeah, I don't know. I. I kind of wish. I wish there was. I just wish they would just do something about this, like. Like this kiss or get over with. Like, we don't. You know, I mean, because again, this whole, like, thing, like, they're just gonna pretend they're friends or whatever and then come out and it's gonna be real weird for, like, six months. They're gonna be seen hooking up or dating. There's gonna be something and then it'll fall apart real quickly. But just, let's get out, you know, get out now so the fan base doesn't have to hear about it for the next, like, three months, you know? I mean, so.
Trent Armstrong
Yes, for those that didn't see. Also, there was a jury segment on Big Brother Unlocked on Friday. I imagine you caught this, Brendan.
Brendan
You know, I saw the remnants of it. I saw. I did see the Will and Rachel 1. I'll be honest with you, I did not watch the unlock because I got the heads up. They were kind of dunking on Rachel a little bit again, and I was gonna get a little mad and I was, like, trying not to. So again, I just think my wife is taking the. It has been the brunt of their. The twist wasn't. Wasn't bad. Rachel did this to herself, everybody. You know, it's like, I. I just. I'm really having a hard time with that narrative because it's like, I get it, guys. You really want to just point out that she got herself out. Sure. She lost comp. But come on. I mean, the comp. It sucked. The whole twist sucked. And I have. I mean, I'm just still not really sure what's going on with this week either, because I thought the mastermind was just going to speed up the week and they were just gonna have a faster eviction. I don't know if that's still happening or there is still, like, another single elimination of play, which is kind of insane, like Final 5. But I. I just really, at this point, I figured they were going to scrap it because of the fan base flipping out about the whole thing.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah. So they say in this episode that it's going to be a unique eviction vote.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
Which certainly implies a vote at the very least. And I do feel like. So at the end of this episode, a nomination ceremony straight out of Jackbox.
Asia
Honestly.
Trent Armstrong
So my interpretation slash hope is that what they mean by unique eviction vote is that they're going to do it like this was a unique nomination ceremony and it's just going to be an early eviction that is styled in the mastermind layer, but it's going to be relatively normal otherwise.
Brendan
That's what I was, I was hoping for, to be honest with you, because I was like, why didn't they just do this twice, right? Just have two, you know, faster evictions, half week evictions or whatever. I mean, I just think it would have been a million times better than what they did with the like White Locust twist in general, but completely, again, obviously I'm biased because it did affect Rachel, but I think it was still really crappy. Like, I just think I, I, yeah, so I think, I mean, again, it kind of sucks because I also hear this narrative of, hey, we put this twist in a long time ago. You know, we planned it and then they see how bad it was received. Like, oh, let's go ahead and change the thing that we had planned after this because we're probably gonna get dunked on again. So let's, let's take that out and replace it with that faster eviction. So I don't know, again, it's like going back and forth as to whether they can or cannot move comps or things around. I just, I wish again we just returned to Big Brother. Like, this is, I don't think Rachel had clue, neither of us did when she signed up for this, that they were going to do this. Especially at the jury phase where you, you would hope that they would start just playing Big Brother. I mean, for, you know, that's why, I mean, I love Keanu. I don't, I don't dislike Keanu. I mean, there's times where I've just wanted to like, you know, shake hard. But I think that a player like him that's so bad at strategy does not exist this far into most of the Big Brother games. The same with Kelly. It's like, I don't think that they add a lot to the game. You know, he was fun to watch like from to time the interactions with Rachel, same with Ashley. But I think there should be consequences if you're that bad at like social game and Big Brother. And there, there have not been whatsoever this season. That's kind of been the downside to it, you know.
Trent Armstrong
Well, production certainly loves Keanu. We see him in this episode facing off in this hoh competition that was, could have been Built for him.
Brendan
Yeah, I know. The strength of your arm, you know, hold up just an object against something else. Yeah. I mean, I. I don't know. I do think that they wanted him to win for sure. So we'll see the mastermind. It's like now you can only vote out anyone who is not Kia. My God, is again. It's like. Dang it. I. I don't know.
Trent Armstrong
There's been a secret competition going all the way back to day one of name it's who said the word bro more times.
Brendan
Whoever did wins and is now free from eviction. Yeah. No, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I. Like I said, I. I think if that is the whole thing this month of mayhem. I don't know. It was a whole joke. I don't. Just don't know what the mayhem is supposed to be at this point. If it is a shortened week. Cool. All right, that's fine. Let's just get the vote over with and then fast forward to what's happening next because I think we know where this is going. We just want to see what's. When it's going to happen and play out.
Asia
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
So, yeah, so we see this with this hoh competition. It is. It's been done a few times now on big brother. Big brother 19 OTT. And last season, we had Leah win this one after almost 10 hours.
Brendan
This is crazy. So I can't believe that they went that long. So, Yeah, a lot lighter because I did keep hearing that.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah.
Brendan
I think from here.
Trent Armstrong
So they talked about how heavy it was. We were kind of assuming they meant the swords, but it turns out they were actually talking about the mastermind film face, the weighted face or whatever they called it.
Brendan
Oh, really?
Trent Armstrong
Yeah. So what it seemed like at least was that trying to pin the face to the board behind it required too much force for Ava and Ashley to be able to hold on for longer than 11 and I think 30 minutes. Ish. And so ultimately, that was. That was something that they were not able to. To hold on to. And what used to be a competition that could last 10 hours is now lasting just about an hour. Sounds familiar if we've seen the wall lately. So this ultimately comes down to Keanu and. And Vince. Asia, what.
Brendan
What were.
Trent Armstrong
How did you feel about the Keanu Vince showdown?
Asia
It was. I mean, I. I mean, it was pretty clear when watching it play out on the feeds that Keanu was so just, like, lackadaisical and that Vince was, like, trying not to be distracted by this, like, bro Y conversation. And I thought it felt like the conversation to throw it was more intentional. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but the fact that it just ended just like that. Just because Keanu's carelessness was just like, are you serious? Like, it's so on brand for this season because the stakes are so high. Like, Like, Morgan pointed out this was the difference between her going, like, potentially going home this week and not even touching the block.
Brendan
Yeah.
Scally
Yeah, I loved it. Honestly, I thought it was really funny how Keanu's like, ah, finally, me and my best friend who chooses to hang out with every single person in the house but me, are good to hang out. Like, he chooses consistently never to talk to me, and now I have him trapped.
Trent Armstrong
He actually said, I really think he'll choose me. The only reason, like, he'll choose me over the girl he spends 23 of the 24 hours with.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
And it's like, you think there's a reason for that? Like, what do you mean?
Brendan
Yeah, I just want to hang out with my best friend.
Asia
You know, things may have changed. I may be his number one now because they argue so much. Like, you can really make yourself believe anything.
Brendan
Yeah. I don't. I don't know what he's thinking. Like, he just. Again, this, to me is just like, how bad? Like, how bad are you reading, like, situations and people to the. To this final five, and you're still not kidding. This guy really is not your friend.
Trent Armstrong
I mean, it's 70 days in.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
And from the first night of feeds that we saw, which was day six.
Brendan
He.
Trent Armstrong
It was the same. Like, Vince has never effed with this man.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
Never once.
Brendan
Yes. Seriously. And how many times? What was the last time? I mean, hasn't he literally said. He's like, I can't believe you screwed me over. You lied to me again. Well, how many times is that? How many times has he done that?
Chris Hutchins
Like, five.
Brendan
Yeah.
Asia
But he made up for it by voting out Kelly and Nakianu so that all his sins were washed away.
Trent Armstrong
What they didn't show in the episode is just how much Keanu in this moment, I think is. Is talking about a large reason for this, which is he's like, bro, have you realized that it's basically just been us two guys for the last, like, two months that it was down to, like, 8v3 at one point? Like, they've been like, us guys have been so outnumbered. It's just like. Yeah, because. Because before it was Vince, it was Riley, and he would talk to Riley all the time. About how obviously you're cutting Catherine. Right. Would be like, not really. And he'd be like, I know, I know you, Will.
Brendan
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the fact, you know, one of the things just to me, with the fact that they sent home Will to me was like, mind blowing. Like, it was like, you. You sent home a guy who has one working leg. I mean, love Will, but no offense, but, like, you know, he can't compete in anything. Like, why would you send him home over anybody? I mean, I'm sure Rachel had to think that when he came in the jury, it was like, what are you doing here? Like, what you like, and guaranteed, like, third or second place. Like, what are they thinking?
Trent Armstrong
You know, Kudos to Ashley.
Asia
Kudos. Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
She had a great campaign and really managed to flip.
Brendan
That mean. This is one reason I do think Ashley does not get enough credit. She really has been making moves and. And again, pivoting and. And doing. And saying what she needed to do at the right time so far, like, stay in the game. I do want her to win something to, like, be able to sit at the, you know, final two. But we'll see. You know, I don't know.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah. And we see in this episode that Ashley is telling us in the diary room, like, I want Morgan gone.
Brendan
Yeah. Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
Let me tell you, it's such a relief after the last two seasons where basically we are not getting this, like, yeah, running down to the end of BB25 and it's the mafia and BB26 and MacKenzie's just like, I'm well aware that I can beat Chelsea. And now this is to have Ashley in the diary room just so cleanly and put it. Yeah, of course I'm trying to evict Morgan. She is my best friend in this house, but I know I can't beat her. It's like, thank you.
Brendan
Like, she's realistic. She's got self awareness. It's like, oh, my God. It's like, you know, very, very, very in poor supply this season, I should.
Asia
Say, literally, because in this exact season, we have a guy who's saying, well, if I have a better comp record than Morgan, maybe I can beat her. I don't like that people are saying this, but I have to be loyal.
Brendan
I mean, to me, it's also crazy to think that he's won four HOHs and you don't view him as like, a four HOH winner. Like, I just don't even. It does not. If you told me any season you're like, yeah, they won four hoh like, damn, that's impressive. You know, within. You're like, did he.
Trent Armstrong
I don't think because Morgan won five, I think or one and then four Vinces.
Brendan
I'm not gonna lie. When. When whatever night it was that she won and I went on chat bcc, it's like Morgan won her third consecutive hoh. I was like, wait, what? I was like. I was like half asleep. I'm trying to figure out what's going on, people. I was like, now I know what they're talking about. Yeah, it was good.
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Trent Armstrong
So they're in this competition and. And as it turns out, we kind of suspected this was probably the case, but we didn't know for sure. But now we get in the diary room that it is for sure. It really was that only one person competing in that competition was actually targeting Keanu. Everyone else was targeting Morgan. And so of course for Keanu, when it's just down to him and the one person targeting him, he's like, all.
Asia
Right, he's number one.
Trent Armstrong
Now I can relax. We can just hang out, bud. And it is that relaxing, that taking his eye off the prize that causes him to slip. And now the one person who is trying to target him has won the hoh.
Scally
Imagine it's so Keanu that the first time he successfully campaigns to anyone in Ashley and Ava here, it's like, complete wrong read on his party. Doesn't want to work with them at all. Like, okay, yeah, just throw that right away. Keanu sounds good.
Brendan
Yeah.
Asia
I think about him out after this. Like, once he leaves the game and he's having to think back his work, like, his worldview on the house is so just misconstrued. It's so opposite of what actually happened. And I'm sure he's gonna spend the first bit being like, no, this was actually what happened. Like, you don't know. Like, Vince was, like, fully aligned with me all the way through. And it's just like, I hope he's one of those people that does go back and watch the season. It's probably gonna be disorienting for him, but it's just like he. He's sitting up here thinking Ashley has the complete wrong read of the house, when it's just like, I worry about him.
Brendan
I mean, I. I kind of do. I'm not gonna lie. He didn't mind me. It reminds me of half the house when, like, something happens big and then, like, two days later, everyone forget. Completely forgets about it. So I. I don't know. He kind of. I. I kind of think he's gonna get out of the house. You're gonna spend this time explaining everything to him. He's like, ah, okay. And then it was like. Like never even, like, think twice, look back, still be confident Keanu. Never even think that he did anything wrong or had a wrong read. He's just gonna be like, you know, you know, deny it and just move on. I don't know. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's the confident Keanu. I mean, even with that. That ball drop contest is. What is he? I don't know what the height difference is on him, but it definitely translates into arm length and leg length. And all you to do is drop a ball in a and just like, probably reach a little and just drop it with two hands. But, you know, Mr. Overconfident here, like, that's the thing, I think. I think his overconfidence is like, everyone in the beginning was like, oh, yeah, he's real confident, sure. But it becomes a detriment at some point when he just is so relaxed that you think he's gonna win every competition.
Asia
You know, apparently, him and Vince are the same height.
Brendan
Are they?
Asia
They were talking about heights the other day on the feeds, and. And Keanu was like, oh, like, we're about the same, right? And he's like, like, six foot. And then Vince was like, well, no, I think I'm more like 5:11. I was like, what?
Brendan
Yeah. I had no idea Vince was five. Really?
Scally
Oh, he's true.
Brendan
I would honestly thought he was like, five, six.
Asia
Same.
Brendan
But, you know, I will say, like, as having been in the Big Brother house and seeing people that come out of the Big Brother house. There's a lot of people. You just are way off on how tall or how small they are. Yeah, because, like, same thing with, like, I remember Jessica and Cody after, like, a finale party. Like, the elevator open. I saw them was like, oh, hey. It was like, they're so small, you know? So it's like, you just. You can't really get proportions in the Big Brother house.
Scally
So.
Brendan
Yes, that's a. That's a. That's one for me. For Vince, I had no idea who's that tall, you know, it is. It's the bed picture with him sitting up with his little leg. He looks like. It reminds me of, like, a dummy. Like, somebody sitting behind him, like, like, moving his head or something. It looks like fake legs. I think that's what did it for me.
Trent Armstrong
So Vince wins the hoh And. And he knew exactly what he was gonna do. Of course, in Vince fashion, we didn't see a ton of this in the episode, but he did promise Keanu that night that he would not put Keanu on the block and that he would be targeting Morgan. And then it wasn't until the day after that he was like, so anyway, I think. I think I need to do this. She said she's. She's not making me, but she is making me.
Brendan
Great.
Trent Armstrong
And. And Keanu is very betrayed and hurt, bro. It doesn't even make any sense, bro. You need to rip off the other band aid. Everyone knows that she ran your HOH and she got you to take out Lauren, So now you need to listen to me and take out Morgan. Duh.
Asia
Why didn't Keanu here sell that? You don't take out Morgan. I'm voting for Morgan. Ava's voting for Morgan. Like, he's not emphasizing jury votes enough because Vince is just like, maybe not in the episode. Okay. Okay. Because I'm like, he. Vince is just like, no, I can beat her. As opposed to where the votes actually Lie.
Brendan
Does he really think. Does Vince really. Is he convinced he can be Morgan?
Trent Armstrong
So what I will say is, in this moment in the episode, after his conversation with Keanu, he does talk to the cameras and say that he thinks he can still be Morgan.
Brendan
Okay.
Trent Armstrong
At this point in time, I don't know if he still thinks that, but he did say that at the time.
Brendan
I mean, it's crazy to me. Again, that's. This is like a self awareness thing where he's. He's just waffled on so many of his HOHs. That's really hard for anybody to sit back and be like, yeah, he really owned his HOHs. He made some big moves. He really got out some people because they're all going to say the same thing. I know Rachel is going to be thinking the exact thing that Morgan ran him on every single hoh. I don't know how. And I mean, Kelly and Lauren go out and feel betrayed by men, so he has no shot. There's just so many people I feel like he's got very little chance with. You know, they're not gonna vote for him.
Trent Armstrong
And the thing, too, he's in this episode in the diary room being like, I don't like this narrative of Morgan running my HOHs. I would love somebody to take that clip and then cut in with the Curb youb Enthusiasm music. All of the times Vince has told all, she's making me do it. She made me do it. I didn't do it on purpose.
Brendan
She made me.
Trent Armstrong
She made me. Because it's just like. Where do you think that narrative came from?
Brendan
Vince? Yeah. I mean, yeah, his. His, like, ability to appear spineless and, like, just be a. Like a, you know, a flogging doll for Morgan worked for him to stay in the game, but now he's trying to backtrack and use that to win the game. But it's. You've, like, you've already. You've already wasted it here. You know, you. You had the chance to at least own your moves or say something at the time, but now you spent so much time trying not to because you didn't want to upset anyone that now no one's going to believe you when you finally try to take credit for the things you actually did, you know? Yeah.
Scally
You can spend all season propping someone else as the bigger threat than you, but you are not allowed to then be shocked that the bigger threat would beat you in the final two.
Asia
Right?
Brendan
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I. I only. I've been thinking that Vince wins against Ava. I Don't think he wins against Keanu. And actually, I think he's got. I think Ashley's got a decent shot with Vince because I think he may have poisoned the jury because this would strike me as a very personal voting jury. I can easily see that, especially somebody. People don't watch a game, right? A Keanu and a Kelly. They don't. They're not, like, voting for the best player. They're voting the person who did. Who probably did not piss them off the most. I see a Will and a Rachel voting for good game, but also like, and Ashley over events because they respect Ashley a lot more than Vince's game because they'll vote for a Morgan any day of the week, but Morgan's not sitting up there. They would probably vote for Ashley. So, I mean, he's got a good shot. He does got a good shot losing against most everybody except I think at this point.
Trent Armstrong
Well, this is a good. A good question for you, Brendan. Obviously, you can't speak for Rachel, but in that jury segment that we were talking about, she was at the time, both her and Will are saying, like, wow, Vince is really, like, doing the thing. He's got Morgan wrapped around his finger now. I think that perception will change. But they also seem to have the perception that Ashley is kind of a floater. One of the questions that Rachel was asked in exit press was who's. Who's like, who's the biggest floater?
Brendan
Who.
Trent Armstrong
Which floater needs to grab a life fest? And she said maybe. Oh, maybe Ashley, actually.
Brendan
Yeah. I mean, I don't. I don't think she was wrong, and I don't think she was wrong in thinking that. I think she is of the opinion that, like, Ashley needs to do something. You need to have a little bit of a resume. It's really hard to say if you weren't running the game. I mean, a lot of people can say they're running game, but if you don't have any power, you weren't really pushing people to make moves. I don't know. Ashley was. So I think Rachel ultimately does want Ashley to get something on her resume that, you know, like, she takes out a Morgan and, like, to get to, like, final Three, I mean, that would be massive. Right.
Trent Armstrong
So, I mean, say, let's say Vince cuts Morgan at final three, takes Ashley.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
Does Rachel vote Vince for taking out Morgan or Ashley?
Brendan
I think he would go. I think she'd go for Vince. I mean, I think she would go for Vince. I'd have a hard time not thinking that. Because even, even that, that'd be like the biggest game move up to this point. And then past that, he's probably going to win Final 3 to get to the Final 2 chair too. So, I mean, at that point, I think he's just winning out as well. So he's sitting next to Ashley. I think Rachel's voting Vince. Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah.
Scally
But that requires Vince being willing to turn on Morgan. I feel like.
Brendan
I know. I mean, I think the person that turns on Morgan could stand a shot to win the game because that right now is like the biggest. That would be the biggest resume builder. And I don't know really care who it comes from, but I think somebody really like takes up their resume like tenfold.
Scally
Exactly.
Brendan
Because that's the person who everybody's expecting right now to win. So I'm sure inside the house too. Right. I mean, they all want to target her for good reason.
Asia
Well, yeah, I feel like for that happening is if Morgan wins this coming hoh. Because that would be their only chance to try to get out Vince.
Brendan
Yeah.
Asia
And then, then they have a 2.2/3 chance to get the final HOH.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah.
Brendan
I mean, is there a. Is there a universe where Morgan ever considers trying to take Vince out?
Trent Armstrong
No, I don't think so. Especially because, like, it'd be one thing if she feared she couldn't beat him. Like, would she ever consider it? But honestly, even if she couldn't beat him, I think she would still take him.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
But she's also would. Like, she's never been in a position where she wouldn't have forced him into the situations where she wouldn't beat him.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah.
Brendan
I mean, I. Obviously Vince really would have loved for somebody to take Morgan out. You know, I really do think he does because he knows she's a very strong competitor, but at the same time, he's so scared that he would never do it himself. And at this point, there's very few people left to even do it, you know, So I don't think anyone is. You know, I think. I think Morgan is like right now, like a 90 chance of winning. I. I don't see much getting in her way.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah. And. And we see in this episode the nominations play out this way. Keanu and Ava on the block via trivia Death Party Massacre Voodoo dolls.
Brendan
So weird when you need her, you know?
Trent Armstrong
Yeah. I lost my mind that we had an entirely different format for nominations with these dolls and they still are doing the. The super lame thing of my first nominee is.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
This doll. My second nominee. It's like, why can't you just say their names? It's so unnatural.
Brendan
I mean, I was walking around my house, and I was, like, just listening to it, and I was like, wait, who was it? They're not saying it. It's like, dude, I mean, taking away the wheel was one thing, but in turning it and, like, that was very, you know, anticlimactic. But now you're not even. You, like, take one step out of it now, too. We're not even seeing somebody's face. You're seeing a doll with some word scribbled on it. I mean, it's. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna read that you. Yeah, yeah. What does it say? For your glasses on, you have voodoo dolls.
Scally
Like, pin them to the wall. Like, do something interesting.
Brendan
Everybody could set them on fire. Like, reveal somebody's name or something, like. Or bring Kelly into, like, do some of the bugs and. You know what I mean? I don't know.
Asia
Yeah, she's gonna be bummed she missed that.
Trent Armstrong
What if Ellie was the mastermind the whole time?
Brendan
So was there a ouija board there, too? Yeah, I. I don't know. I. I honestly, just outside of, like, because I have not been an avid watcher, I keep up with big brother, but it's been hard for me to watch this for the last, like, five, six years. But, like, the key wheel, I mean, was such a great thing in big brother, and people underestimate how intense that was and, like, how stressful it was. But also, like, I always say, that last key that you left in the wheel sent a message to whoever you were. Like, I didn't nominate you, but just so you know, you're really close. You know, it's like, that intensity. And also, at the very beginning, I want to see who's safe. I want to see who you picked first, second, third, because that tells me who you consider to be, like, your close people in this house, whether they're alliance or not. I mean, it revealed a lot about the game that I really think that we missed from not having that. So, I mean, that was one thing. I. I just. I think they really need to bring it back just for. For the sake of the game, you know, because it makes people think a lot more, you know, even when they're hoh. Because don't make hoh is easy. That's the one thing that needs to happen is, like, don't make hoh is easy. You shouldn't. It should be stressful. It should be tough. You don't need to break down and cry. Every week, like, Vince, you know.
Trent Armstrong
No, don't say you have to cry.
Brendan
Like, every time he wins. It's like, what was I thinking? I don't. Oh, God. You know, it's like, so why are you winning, man? You know, it's like Lauren winning. It's like, how many hohs have you had that win this season and, like, immediately regret because now they have to nominate somebody. You're like, what is wrong with you?
Asia
That gets me every time he says, no, don't do that. Don't think that. It was when Ava was like, now I'm alone. Don't think that.
Brendan
No.
Asia
Oh, thanks. Now I won't.
Trent Armstrong
He says that every time someone starts crying, too. It's such a strange response. No, no, stop. Don't do that.
Brendan
The best one was when he started. Who was it? Early on when Lauren was crying and he. He was, like, trying to make, like, he started making himself look worse. Like, oh, well, yeah, but I have to. I can't remember what it was. But you. You did it, Taryn. But he was. He was, like, pointing out, well, I have to deal with even more in.
Trent Armstrong
The gutter than yours.
Brendan
Yep. It's like, damn, this guy, dude.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah.
Brendan
Like, out. Out. Like, cry a crier.
Trent Armstrong
She's crying on her birthday. I know, but it's even worse for me.
Brendan
Dude. I mean, how could any girl, like, back home be like, yeah, that's my man.
Asia
That's my man of seven years.
Brendan
He's playing a solid game. He's just. He just. I mean, he's not really like that. It's just. It's an act. He's. He's a really good actor.
Asia
He's playing the game.
Brendan
Yeah. Yeah. I just don't know. I just don't get it.
Trent Armstrong
Amazing.
Asia
Oh, he even had that perspective when he's trying to sell it to Keanu. Why he should put him on the block was. Well, you don't. You don't. You don't see it from that perspective. Like, I. I can't put her on the block initially because she's gonna be like, oh, yeah, it makes sense for Keanu and Ava to be on the block. You don't see it like that. Of course he doesn't. He's playing the game too.
Brendan
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. I mean, yeah, this. This end game is just crazy. I mean, that's why I think it's been. It's been at least interesting to fall because it doesn't look very linear whatsoever. It's just that everyone is just all over the place. And they're all kind of, kind of self interested but not self aware. So it's very weird, you know, I mean, the only person I really do feel is like, has a very good reads on everything is Ashley. I feel like she's the only person I can see at this point that really has a. Has a good beat on every single person that's left in the house. So that's why I really do want her to do something to get the final three and really show that, you know, she's. She is playing the game because she's done a amazing job of really downplaying herself. I mean, there were so many people come out of the house, thought she was legitimately dumb. You know, she was. In her head, she had no idea what she's doing. And I mean, even for me, for a long time, even after I knew she was an attorney, there's a couple times I was like, wait, Ashley, what do you. You know? But yeah, I mean, she has done. I mean, she's done. Done a pretty good job right now. So if she can, she can pull it out. I mean, she makes some good arguments. So I could see. I could see. Well, no, I already know what's happening, unfortunately. So I was gonna say she could be one of the few people that could convince Vince to. I could see her having been somebody that could convince Vince to nominate Morgan or backdoor her to get rid of her as a way to potentially win the game. If she could do that again, that would be a fun. I'm gonna move again. You know, I mean, if you could get him. But you know, it's gonna happen. No.
Asia
So, I mean, so much credit to Ashley for how she's playing this, because even in a conversation with Keanu the other day, she's like, keanu, like, like, we're intelligent people, we can think for ourselves. And Keanu's like, makes these eyes like, yeah, right.
Brendan
Yeah.
Asia
It's just like, I fear she's done so good that final two speeches are not going to be enough to give. Convince people otherwise that like, oh, yeah, you're a lawyer. But we still think.
Brendan
Yeah, exactly. I know, I know. I mean, I will say, I mean, you know, you know, somebody, a lawyer, she's. She's good at speaking in general, but also good at trying to put together points inside her head without having a piece of paper in front of her. So there's a good chance that Ashley could, if she made some good moves, naming them off one at a time and goes against somebody like, you know, an Ava. Like, I. I think she blows Ava out of the water because, you know, what does Ava say, you know, when she gets up there? So, I mean, I don't know. I think, frankly. Do you have to have frankly one more time? I mean, come on.
Trent Armstrong
Anything else from the episode that we should talk about before we get to some feet?
Brendan
No. I mean, the feeds are way more interesting at this point. That statement. Watching Ava for like two minutes, drink her wine and say Lahayam was like America. Yeah. Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
I don't even know that's what it was like.
Brendan
This is what. You guys. You guys really running on stuff. I mean, there had to been.
Asia
I didn't.
Brendan
I mean, we saving all the stuff, the good stuff for the next episode. I mean, they're really trying to parse it. I'm guessing. Right. At this point.
Asia
I didn't realize that masterminds layer thing was in the have not room.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah.
Asia
Because I was wondering on feeds, I was like, how are they getting back to the living room so fast? But that made sense once I saw it in the episode.
Brendan
When did they end have nots? Does anyone know? Were we able to keep track of this anymore?
Trent Armstrong
Last one, I think was pre. Certainly pre Vinnie Hoh. The third time.
Brendan
Okay. Did they announce it to be a big deal when they'd be like, no, they said so.
Trent Armstrong
I think they were like, no more have nots.
Brendan
Was anybody happy or were they even like.
Trent Armstrong
I. I'm sure they. I like the thing is that nobody, like the audience really doesn't care.
Brendan
That's so weird. I just don't. I mean, I don't know why they're still having stuff that like, plays no part of the game anymore. I think there's.
Trent Armstrong
I think there's like a producer that just loves it.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
It's like, that's my jam. I want to do this all the time.
Brendan
Yeah. Oh, man.
Trent Armstrong
I get to watch this myself. I don't care if anybody else.
Brendan
They're so hungry. It's so fun to watch. I love it. Like, watch Survivors, bok choy and baby food. I mean, they used to be a thing, right? It's like that's not even. Not even a thing anymore. I don't. I don't. I just don't get it. They have so many things that are existing in the game but serve no function anymore. You know, it's like the keys, like nominating the stupid keys. Like turn it and then the screen turns on. I mean, what's. What. Why even the key anymore? You know, at this point, just press a button. You know, it'd be faster. I mean.
Trent Armstrong
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Scally
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Brendan
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Trent Armstrong
I would like you to meet Ares.
Brendan
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Trent Armstrong
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Brendan
You're not.
Scally
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Brendan
What are you?
Trent Armstrong
My world is coming to destroy yours. But I can help you.
Brendan
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Scally
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Brendan
Another switchback. Wait, this isn't the top. Where's the summit? Why am I doing this?
Asia
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Scally
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Brendan
You got this.
Asia
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Trent Armstrong
Now let's get to some spoilers.
Brendan
The Office of Civil Defense has issued the following message. This is a spoiler warning.
Scally
A spoiler warning means that an actual.
Brendan
Spoiler against this country has been detected and that protective action should be taken.
Trent Armstrong
All right, so on the feeds we know, we have discovered, we have learned that they played a veto competition. It was tiny Veto.
Brendan
Oh, it was.
Trent Armstrong
It was tiny veto and tiny Veto. Not good for big man. Keanu did not win tiny Veto. He was very upset with this competition. Felt like it should not have been another stacking competition. And. And in fact, it was Morgan that won the power of veto, her fourth veto now. And that seals Keanu's fate. Assuming there's no extra twist happening. The two votes, Morgan and Ashley fully planned to vote out Keanu here. They have told him as such. And so our final four, looking very likely, like it will be Ashley, Ava, Morgan, and Vince.
Brendan
And now Morgan and Vince are a power couple of friends.
Asia
Our friends, right.
Brendan
Yes.
Trent Armstrong
Our friends with sleeping in the same bad benefits.
Brendan
Yeah. At the bottom of the bed.
Asia
Like, you know, option one, full steam ahead.
Brendan
I kept seeing that on chat.
Trent Armstrong
Bcc.
Brendan
I still don't really know what it is.
Trent Armstrong
It's their code. Not. Not very well disguised code for having feelings. Option one is maybe, I think, like, getting together potentially.
Brendan
That is funny.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah.
Brendan
So what. How. How has this been used? It's like a verb or a noun or like, I'm gonna.
Trent Armstrong
I was thinking about it. I'm thinking option one.
Brendan
Yeah.
Scally
I'm sorry.
Trent Armstrong
Not really.
Asia
But, you know, option one. But we have the variable.
Trent Armstrong
Well, for obvious reasons, we can't do option one until October.
Asia
Right.
Trent Armstrong
For obvious reasons.
Brendan
Yeah, yeah.
Asia
Because of the variable.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. It's like variable. We need to solve for a variable. Yeah, yeah. We have to do that first before we can solve the equation.
Scally
Exactly.
Brendan
Yeah.
Scally
Option one, implying the existence of option two would be quite upsetting as the variable.
Trent Armstrong
We know what option two is.
Brendan
I'm pooping my pants. This was during the esthetician talk. Was it statistics? No. Why? That was so hard to think of the statistian.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah.
Brendan
Man. Yeah. Will they. Won't they? This. You know, this. This is feeling like Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan all over again. You know, sleep is in the big brother house.
Trent Armstrong
It's truly.
Asia
I just. I don't know. I was just gonna say, I don't know if they think when the lights go off, the feeds are kind of done, so they're speaking in code for production, or if they're truly speaking in code for the live feeds, thinking that people cannot deduce what they are trying to say.
Trent Armstrong
It would not be the first time that people thought they could get away with things on the feeds. I mean, even infidelity.
Asia
It's like, okay, you have your pillow barrier, right? But when you get in the bed vents, you slide your hand underneath it, and then you're like, morgan, is this okay? Are you ever gonna tell me this is not okay?
Trent Armstrong
At least. At least he's good with consent. You know what I mean? Like, bar is low.
Asia
Like, what is he doing? Massaging her ankle.
Brendan
What's he massaging your ankle?
Asia
He's doing something that he's asking her if it's okay, and he's like, if.
Trent Armstrong
It'S ever not okay, fine. I don't care.
Brendan
Oh, my God.
Asia
He's like, this brings me so much comfort. I don't know why.
Brendan
I just love stroking your toes and so weird.
Asia
The bad part is, has her toes like this.
Scally
If option one had ever just been realized in the house, we would talk about it so much less, like, it would be, you know, it'd be over.
Brendan
Done, and over with.
Trent Armstrong
It's like, okay, well, that's what's happened with every other, like, infidelity situation on the feeds is like, I mean, people gave Austin a lot of crap for it, but, like, he just kind of owned it, and then people kind of moved on. Yeah, that was it.
Asia
It.
Brendan
And then he walked out of the house barefoot.
Trent Armstrong
He did.
Brendan
Best part of Austin's eviction. Oh, man. Yeah, I. I mean, I just don't know. I mean, very interesting, though. What kind of questions do they get asked if Morgan and Vince are like, final two? They're like, nobody wants to ask any questions. All they want to do is keep asking him, like, so do you like Morgan or what's going on there? Not even about the game. Like, we just want know, are you guys, like, did you kiss or what's going on? It'll just be, like, gradually increasing in the questions that we really want to know for that final two chair spot.
Trent Armstrong
I'm shocked that more people in the house aren't just assuming that they're just full on together at this Point considering they sleep together in the same bed every single night. If I were in that house, I'd be like, oh yeah, there are. There are a couple clear. Like, you don't do that if you're not a couple. I would assume they're going a lot further.
Scally
That's actual showmances have been caught over far less.
Trent Armstrong
Time together sometimes.
Brendan
Yeah, I mean, it was for me like mind blowing a final eight that you had two people that were clearly already in some sort of showmance esque thing and everyone's just like, oh yeah, well, what are we gonna do? I don't know. It's like, well, you could nominate them.
Trent Armstrong
You know, Brandon, imagine like multiple people in the house just assuming that you would turn on Rachel. Like. Yeah, well, obviously he'll be great. He knows he needs to.
Brendan
Of course. Guys. Yeah. Good. Totally. Yeah, bro. To the end. Yeah. Aiden, Lane, I got Laden, Lane, Hayden, I got you guys. Yeah. Rider dies, right? And then believing it. I mean, that would be the crazy part. Yeah, I just, I mean to me it's mind blowing again. You sent Will out when you have like an obvious couple in the house still like, still sitting there. And Lauren, like Rachel told her, it's like, why are you letting a 34 year old unemployed guy run your game? You know, it's like, but she did up until the end. You know, I just don't get it.
Asia
I just does not make sense. I imagine like if Keanu could be a fly on the wall just to hear all of the late night talks with Vince and Morgan, like what he.
Trent Armstrong
Would think of Vince, Asia, Brandon. Asia doesn't get it. Yeah, each other in the big brother house.
Brendan
Yeah. You know, he's gonna tell the girls what they want to hear, obviously. But bros, we're bros. We don't. That never lets up.
Asia
The bromance is strong.
Brendan
I get it.
Scally
That's exactly the same as I think when like Keanu gets out of the house, like it's a lot easier for him to believe that Vince was lying for 24 hours a day for 80 something days than it is for him to have his entire ego shattered.
Brendan
Oh, yeah, yeah. Or just get out and be like, yeah, you know, honestly, dude, Morgan made it do wasn't Vince at all, dude. He's like, she just, I don't know, like she hadn't by the sack, you know, I mean, genuinely, that is what.
Trent Armstrong
He'S most pissed about. Like, I can't believe you let Morgan do this to you, bro. You're so weak about it. You Know.
Brendan
Yeah, dude, sack up, bro. Come on.
Trent Armstrong
We were supposed to be watching dodgeball together, bro.
Brendan
Yeah. Oh, my God. We were talking about skating. We were kids and.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah.
Brendan
What happened, dude?
Trent Armstrong
You just let her succubus magic infect you.
Brendan
Yeah. It really is crazy that he was really most excited about the hoh to just hang out with this uninterrupted.
Trent Armstrong
He's like that desperate for male attention.
Brendan
Like, that's exactly. That is Keanu's game. Wasn't even thinking the fact that this is like Final 5. If he wins this, he's definitely guaranteed Final 4. He's thinking like, yeah, dude, it's. It's done. Like, me and Vince got. We're right or dies final two here for sure. You know, it's like, it doesn't matter what I do. I'm, you know, I'm good. It doesn't even cross his mind. It doesn't even, you know, amazing.
Asia
His standard for friendship is concerning because what Vince gives him is nothing. Yeah, he just replies and he's like, yeah, we're good.
Brendan
That's why he doesn't have any bros calling him from Nigeria about like a ten thousand dollar loan they need for their father's farm or something. You know, I mean, because he might just. He might fall for it. You know.
Asia
He hears any bass in that voice. This is homie for life.
Trent Armstrong
And it's. And it's truly been the downfall of his game so consistently from day one. It just has. Consistently. He consistently puts his trust in the wrong people. From Zay to Jimmy to Zach to Riley to Vince, just like one after another. And they. They all betray him and he keeps going back every time. And it is. It is exactly this attitude and this. This sort of inclination that has led to his downfall despite the success in competitions. And. Yeah, I mean, it is only fitting that this is the way that he ends up going out, you know, just goofing around because he felt too comfortable.
Brendan
I mean, I also did think it's kind of ironic that the big brother blockbuster ends and then like two, you know, two. Two nominations later, he's like, already going.
Asia
I mean, Kelly and then him.
Brendan
Yeah, that speaks to me like volumes about what the blockbuster was doing into the jury phase. Like, it shouldn't have been there. You should have. You should have gotten rid of this a while ago. And I mean, maybe even before the final nine. I don't even know. But at least the jury phase, you should just see people play. Because I think it just, it. It changes it so much. It allows These people that don't have to have a social game. You know, I like comp beast. I mean I like people that can win. We got it. We need a players. You don't want just one type of player and big brother for sure. But at the same time you need to be able to do both, you know, to be a successful player. So it's like, it just really is kind of like it changed just what we're watching, you know. So.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah. So the real question left is will anybody beat Morgan in competitions? Will Ashley manage to somehow take Morgan out and or will Vince actually turn on Morgan when it comes to a final three situation? Perhaps will he actually take that shot? Indication right now is no, but I don't think it's impossible. You know, Vince has always taken the easy path, but he has always also taken the most self interested path. And those two things now conflict.
Brendan
So yeah, you know, I mean at this point he has no. He. His hands are tied no matter what because it's. Well, I guess it's what one, one is it? Yeah, it is. Right. So it's gonna be two, two voters.
Trent Armstrong
Off the block for, for this week with Morgan having the veto. Keanu will leave and then next week is theoretically the first chance they'll have. I don't think he, I don't think there's a chance in hell he takes out Morgan at 4 and willingly goes to the end with Ashley and Ava. I think he'd worry about losing to Ashley and Ava in the final three hoh and them taking each other.
Brendan
Oh really?
Trent Armstrong
Yeah.
Brendan
You think you worry about that? I mean I, I think he'd worry about upsetting Morgan and then like, I.
Trent Armstrong
Guess what I'm saying, like even if he's thinking strategically, I think that he would not want to take that risk. Whereas what he would, what he might consider is, you know, we go to the final three hoh with say Ashley or Ava and we easily beat them. Part one, part two, it's me versus Morgan in part three. If I beat her in that, that then I have the option to cut her try my hand at facing Ashley or Ava. I think the problem for him is does he guaranteed win against Ashley or Ava? That is, I, I don't think we have that answer for sure. And I think he certainly doesn't have that answer for sure. And if he's gonna burn Morgan after burning his real life for Morgan and then still not win, like that's a really terrifying prospect. I have to imagine.
Brendan
When is the round table air? When do we get the round table.
Trent Armstrong
It's usually the finale, I think.
Brendan
Is it? Oh, okay. Oh, yeah.
Scally
These days.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah. They film it a few days. So they'll probably film it like Thursday or Friday.
Asia
Wait, when is this eviction happening? Tomorrow.
Trent Armstrong
It. Well, Sharon said it was tonight. Oh.
Asia
They did say you never know what's gonna happen in the daytime or the nighttime. So maybe that is what they're waiting for Production.
Brendan
Probably.
Trent Armstrong
I mean it. What a wild journey it would be if. If the feeds came back tomorrow and like Ava was gone somehow. Wow. Really?
Brendan
Yeah. It was safe due to my mayhem.
Asia
Right. They're gonna vote by like like closing their eyes and whoever's name they hit.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
And it's all Ava pick up the.
Brendan
300 pound weight by themselves.
Asia
Expect the unexpected.
Brendan
Yeah. I mean, no going into this. Taryn is. I would call you a historian. What do you think we could expect? What kind of comps are. Can we see a final four? I always forget what we're doing.
Trent Armstrong
Likely to see hoh something like what the bleep feels pretty likely. They. They like to do that one at final four. Some kind of booth comp. But what the bleep is one of their favorites to do. And then final four veto has very steadily over the last few years been something that involves days but also some kind of physical component. So like running back and forth and putting a thing like this. This thing happened on this day. So I connect this over here and then I run back over here and so something that Morgan is likely going to have a big edge for and you know, if not her probably Vince. Which means that she's probably safe at 5.
Brendan
Which. Which day's competition was the one that Jerry won? Didn't he win a day that well that.
Trent Armstrong
So Jerry won a. That was an hoh competition at final. At final four.
Brendan
Wow.
Trent Armstrong
And it was like whatever they did.
Brendan
For make Jerry be able to win something.
Trent Armstrong
Right. Well, unfortunately that was, you know a good like 15. No more than 15. That was. That was 17 years ago.
Brendan
Yeah. But they should bring Jerry back for all stars guys. Real.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah. I believe that was the. The sorry 5. The rolling a ball. That was for years they used to say on big Brother it was like a saying like you could just. You could be in a bad position because somebody rolled a ball into a hole. And it was because of that competition. The people, you know, it's just like that kind of thing. But nowadays not so much.
Brendan
Yeah. I mean because I do want to see something that is the least equitable. So I don't wanna I don't want to see a obviously Morgan very, very, you know, tough athlete. So we know she can do a lot of running and moving and quick, you know. So it's like I do want to see something where at least an Ava Ashley would have a shot.
Asia
Yeah.
Brendan
Not make it like over the top easy, but. Yeah, like what the bleep or a quiz. I mean something like that might at least be a little bit more fair.
Asia
And Ashley has been studying so as long as there's not a super physical element to it, she has a chance.
Brendan
Yeah. Okay.
Trent Armstrong
I would love it if they reversed it. If they made the HOH their typical final four veto and then they made the veto something like what the bleep or, or just even just a straight quiz if you want to make it a little more like skill based because the veto is so much more important at final four. And the reason why Morgan's basically locked into the end game is because she's such a heavy favorite in in any kind of veto of kind that they'd normally do. But what are you gonna do?
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Brendan
Yes, it is. So we need everyone to be voting for Rachel because a lot of casual viewers are voting for Keanu. And I understand liking Keanu. It just drives me crazy that again, Keanu's made it this far. Like, I like him, but he's just been competing. Horrible strategy. I mean, come on, vote for Rachel. I mean, she played her butt off, got taken out by a stupid twist. I get it. Like, she did lose the competition ultimately, but at the same time, like, it shouldn't have been there. You know, you shouldn't end a week one competition. Week nine. It just really sucked. And I, I, I have been saying this and, and I'm sure production is hating me for it, but I kind of feel like voting for voting for Rachel at least is a vote towards somebody who's playing the game. Voting for Keanu just reinforces the whole stereotype of what they want is just people playing cops. And so you get a cam, you get a Keanu, you get all these guys that are just physical. They're going to stop listening to everyone complaining that they want social aspects of Big Brother other because they're diluting a lot more to the point where I think it has changed it and, and it's, it sucks because I, I think, you know, for all of them to play 60 days to make it to jury and then have a stupid competition right after you're like, oh, woo, we made it. You're like all excited. I mean, it really took this, you know, the air out of the sales, I mean, for them, you know, because not even just for Rachel, but once they realized she was gone and they were like, oh wait, this could happen to us too. I mean, they all started like sweating and getting pissed and getting upset too, you know. So I think it really wasn't the game that they all thought they Were playing too, you know, I mean, for.
Trent Armstrong
Rachel to be one of the most screwed over players in Big Brother history and not when America's favorite.
Asia
I have never wanted to throw up.
Trent Armstrong
More in my life. It's not for me.
Brendan
Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I appreciate rap support for. For Rachel because I. I guess that I think she deserved it. It. And again, for us, some people are like, oh, she doesn't need the money. We could use the money. But outside of that, it really is just for her, like, the affirmation. Like, I just want her to know that everybody enjoyed watching her and enjoy her playing good game and a strong game because again, it's like they just. For me, a lot of these ads have been trying to really just, you know, position it to look as though the twist was fine. Like, Rachel just went out of her own hand and like, just keep, you know, saying little bits and little here. Like Julie Khan, Ashley and Rachel, mean girls for Yona Keanu. Like, to me, that was like. I mean, come on. Like, if. If you showed Keanu playing the way he has been talking the way he did to those girls, like, you would understand why they got frustrated with him and why they're yelling at him because they're tired. I mean, and it's just, you can. You can only take that for so long, you know, and this isn't the first time either that Rachel has been in a house with people that talked like that. Like, love Big Jeff. But he would do the same sort of thing to Rachel. He would talk down to her and, like, I had to bite my tongue a lot of times because the boat, you know, was always lingering in the background. But he would talk down to her and like. And again, you do that to Jordan, like, that's, you know, that's your. Your girlfriend or your wife or whatever it is. But. But you do that to my wife or my girlfriend, you know, it's a little bit of a problem. So I'm glad she stood up for herself. I'm glad she fought back. I'm tired of them portraying girls that are strong and big brother as being like bitches or bullies or any of that crap. But then you get a Keanu and he's fine, right? He's just, you know. Oh, it's just how he's raised. Yeah, yeah, he's competitive. I mean, so it's like Rachel fought hard to be there. She wanted to be there more than anyone, and she did what she had to do. I mean, she came in and acted tough and talked it tough because if she did not like, she stood a good chance of being nominated right away, you know, and it worked, you know, So, I mean, I don't know. So I think this should at least reward her for that because it would acknowledge the gameplay that she really. She really had in this game, you know, so. And yes, I'm biased.
Trent Armstrong
I mean, it's genuinely. It's a huge issue. I. In. In my book behind the Mirror, which you can pre order@darren arson.com I wrote about specifically season 11 with Jeff and how that was such a big example of especially the Braden situation of like the ways that the show will sometimes or very often I would say leave out the provocation and then show the response.
Brendan
Exactly.
Trent Armstrong
Make the response seem dramatic and unwarranted because that's the drama. The provocation is left out. And so it ends up making the person look like they're dramatic. Like they're.
Brendan
It does. Yeah. Yeah. I was listening to a Reese Witherspoon thing on. On. On the daily podcast or something interview with her, but she was talking about when paparazzi would follow her with her kids and she was saying they would get you. They would like be banging on the windows, yelling at the. Yelling at the kids. And then she would like, you like leave my kids alone and guess what they show. You know, she would say they show her yelling at the paparazzi or responding to them, but they don't show all that other part. And I can't. I do think that is a problem because I think I, I just was surprised at how different the. The live feed interpretation of the show is from the casual viewership. And like, I just didn't realize how different it's gotten. I used to be like a little here, a little there, but I do feel like we're almost watching two different shows now.
Asia
You know, Taylor Hill on the chat said I have to laugh.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
Yeah. You know, the like the way that Taylor has to. Has to act on the season in order to like.
Brendan
Yeah.
Trent Armstrong
Get the right at it is like is being. Be 100 perfect all the time. Right. Like, otherwise, who knows?
Brendan
I know. I just. I do really want to see Big Brother return to like what I think I. What I enjoyed playing and what I saw even before us. You know, it's just people there who want to play. I don't want to get performative artists like Ava who are there for a meme or a tick tock video or a. Or a gif. I do want to see people that are hungry to win money come in like Those are the people that I want to see there. I don't want somebody just to get Instagram followers and tick tock followers. Like go in there because you want it, you love the game or you want to play and you are doing, you will do anything to stay in that game because you need people in there that are hungry because that's the problem. They put people in there who are like, you know, kind of just like blase about really competing on Big Brother like there because it sounded cool, you know, and they're attractive person, which is great. But you know, I want to see somebody who wants to play.
Asia
You know, I think there's always going to be a disconnect as long as they advertise Big Brother as this some fun summer show. Like they're like the side that we focus on is completely different than the side that the producers care about in producing the show. So it's like I don't know if that will ever line up maybe like season 30 and on, but I doubt it.
Brendan
Yeah, I mean, or go the other direction like a Big Brother uk, you know, go big and over the top and then have America vote or something like crazy. Like pick one or the other pick, you know, pick a lane. It's like don't go between because I think it, it dilutes both both objectives and what you're trying to produce. You know, I mean, so.
Trent Armstrong
Well, it is a late night so we will let you, let you all get get to bed here. But there will be another episode on Wednesday and it will also be at 10pm Eastern. So it's going to be the survivor premiere at 8 for two hours. Then the 10pm Eastern episode of Big Brother 27 where we will see the veto and the eviction which I assume is probably still taking place tonight. We'll see. So stay tuned for that. I will be live on Twitch, YouTube and Patreon watching both Survivor and the Big Brother episode. We will be here to recap all of it. And of course the live feed update are coming still tomorrow morning, 11am Eastern. I'll let you know if there is an update. We also have the slop coming very soon. I believe on Tuesday. No, sorry, tomorrow. Tomorrow is the slop is happening for patrons of Rob as a podcast. That's the where things get sloppy. We just finished the Survivor preseason draft for Survivor 49 if you want to prep for the Survivor premiere coming on Wednesday. Had a great time talking about pet peeves and of course the Amazing Race draft also happened. The Big Brother version of the Amazing Race featuring the aforementioned Taylor Hale. And we've also got some Love island games happening. Scally, what's. What's going on with Love Island?
Scally
Love Island Games has been super fun this season. Lots of drama, actual gameplay going on. So check out the. We know Love island feed.
Trent Armstrong
Yes, of course. We have some events coming up. One in New York on October 8th for Survivor and one in San Francisco on November 5th. So check out tickets for those events if you want to come hang out with us. And of course, chat bcc Brandon's. I mean, sorry, Rachel Riley is over there and a bunch of other people having fun in a while, but yeah.
Brendan
You know, she could be posting tonight. I think maybe.
Trent Armstrong
There you go. And of course, this podcast brought to you by Pluto tv where you can find some live feeds to watch on your own. And there you can also find the.
Brendan
Branch of wedding on Pluto TV too. Oh, David Deterra, My Fair Wedding. Yep.
Trent Armstrong
Okay. Well, of course you can also, again, find my book@taranamstrong.com and. And. And all the other stuff. Brandon Brennan, what else do you got going on?
Brendan
Let's see. I gotta get up tomorrow about 5:45, I start cooking breakfast and then lunch. Oh, sorry. You're probably talking about other stuff. Yeah, I mean, the truth is, is, I mean, just rooting for Rachel for America's favorite player, I'm gonna keep pushing, you know, like, I. I'm a lobbyist here, so I'm gonna. Gonna try to get my agenda through Congress. So hopefully she wins. Like I said, I would like to see that. I honestly would enjoy seeing a Morgan win and a Rachel, America's favorite player this year. That, to me, would be at least a good ending to a season that was very chaotic and driven by Rachel for at least, you know, 75 of the season.
Trent Armstrong
Well, listen, if I get the Presidential Medal of Freedom, I. My first act with it will be to grant Rachel America.
Brendan
Yes. I love it. I love it. That's probably how it works too. I think so.
Trent Armstrong
I'm pretty sure that's. They get what it's like, the long walk. You get one wish.
Brendan
I haven't seen it, man. You just spoiled it for me. Great.
Asia
Yeah, Yeah. Y' all could follow me at Asia. Like Asia. That's a Y. S h a like Asia on all social media to see what I'm up to. Jason Reed and I are currently talking about old seasons of Married at First Sight over on our Patreon A Perfect Match podcast. And Love is blind season nine is premiering October 1st. So me Mary and Jason will be back to cover it, so make sure you subscribe to the Love at First Sight feed so you can see when the podcast drop.
Trent Armstrong
All right, Scott, anything else?
Scally
Yeah, when I'm not voting for Rachel, you know, we're talking about Love island, but also the challenge over on the Free Agents podcast. So go check that out.
Trent Armstrong
All right, well, thank you all so much.
Brendan
Soon to have Keanu on it, probably.
Scally
It's likely.
Brendan
It's likely. Thinks he's funny. He's a funny guy.
Trent Armstrong
Thank you all so much for joining us here tonight and we will see all of you next time.
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The RHAP team unites for a detailed, lively recap of Big Brother 27’s late-night Sunday episode, spotlighting the final five Head of Household (HOH) and nominations. Host Taran Armstrong, with Scally, Asia, and special guest Brendon Villegas (BB12/13), dive into the tangled endgame dynamics, the Morgan-Vince showmance, gameplay analysis, production twists, and live feed spoilers. This recap balances humor, exasperation, and sharp strategy talk for both superfans and casuals alike.
Despite season fatigue, the roundtable agrees that the unexpected personal dynamics (Morgan/Vince), controversial twists, and the emergence of Ashley as a stealth player have generated a rare, messy, but memorable endgame. The episode closes with reminders for fans to vote Rachel for America’s Favorite Player and predictions for the upcoming critical comps.
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