BB27 Thursday Eviction Ep Recap w/ Izzy Gleicher, Week 9

Summary

RHAP: We Know Big Brother – BB27 Thursday Eviction Episode Recap w/ Izzy Gleicher, Week 9 (September 12, 2025)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the emotional fallout and strategic shifts following the Week 9 Thursday eviction on Big Brother 27. Rob Cesternino, Taran Armstrong, and Asia Welch are joined by special guest Izzy Gleicher (BB25 alum and new Amazing Race cast member) to dissect the night’s events, analyze this season’s controversial game mechanics, and unpack the dynamic between cast members—especially focusing on the growing dissatisfaction with game twists, the “blockbuster” competitions, and the ongoing house relationships. The group provides sharp critiques of production decisions and player gameplay, while keeping the discussion witty, irreverent, and deeply informed by their love (and frustration) with the franchise.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Izzy’s Perspective: Fan vs. Player (06:23 - 07:22)

• Izzy shares how her post-player perspective impacts her viewing experience, making her take things personally and amplifying her empathy with current houseguests.
  • Izzy (07:04): “It’s not… That part’s not rational, but I, like, feel it deeply in a way that I didn’t before, even though I was such a fan.”
• The transition from passionate fan to empathetic former player colors Izzy’s reactions to the current gameplay and twists.

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2. The Impact and Controversy of the Blockbuster Twist (08:04 - 12:48)

• Keanu’s Blockbuster Domination: Keanu wins another physical competition, crushing injured Will and further exposing the imbalance in comp-centric twists.
  • Taran (08:46): “The level of difficulty that somebody like Will plays the game at versus Keanu is so unbelievably and dramatically different.”
  • Asia (09:21): “There’s literally no point in having a social game at this point...what’s been happening is kind of weird.”
• The panel laments how the twist devalues social strategy, likening it to “The Challenge,” and highlight a growing rift between comp beasts and social players.
• The Death of the Backdoor: Izzy mourns the demise of backdooring as a strategic tool, emphasizing that comp twists eliminate critical elements of BB gameplay.
  • Izzy (10:08): “The back door is like a strategic mechanism...your way of evening the score between people that can win comps and people that can’t.”

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3. Rachel’s Eviction & Production’s Justifications (13:27 - 19:15)

• Rachel’s Ouster: The group reflects on the much-maligned “White Locust” twist and its role in blindsiding one of the season’s most strategic players.
  • Izzy (13:41): “I think that twist degrades the integrity of the game...it’s as painful as final four fire.”
  • Taran (17:37): “This genuinely pissed me off more than the twist itself...throw it in her face and literally trotting her out...being like: ‘Say the lines for us, Rachel.’”
• The panel skewers Julie Chen’s attempts to frame the twist as a "test of social game" and applauds Rachel’s poise in her exit interview.
  • Asia (18:33): “It’s embarrassing...the class that Rachel has! She gives her best and they don’t deserve it.”
• Production Critique: The hosts and Izzy call out the show for gaslighting both houseguests and viewers on the intentions and fairness of these twists.

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4. Ratings, ‘Showmances’, and Live Feeds (31:01 - 36:46)

• Vince, Morgan, and Lauren Triangle: A large segment is devoted to the showmance/non-mance confusion with Vince and his fluctuating loyalties between Lauren and Morgan, as well as his performative apologies towards his real-life girlfriend, Kelsey.
  • Asia (32:28): “He caressed every corner of her hand with his mustache, flirting with kissing it again...so uncomfortable.”
  • Taran (32:57): “Nobody in history has done this without kissing—just doesn’t happen.”
• Live Feeds as BB’s Defining Feature: Izzy and the panel strongly argue that the live feeds, not the edited show, are the franchise's heart—calling for more integration and respect for the format, and for live feeds in the jury house.
  • Izzy (33:44): “The show is in the live feeds. Fact that they don't uplift the thing that makes them different is crazy to me.”

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5. Game Inequities & Casting Woes (48:59 - 50:05)

• On Representation: Izzy laments the lack of diverse casting and pairing for minority and older houseguests, particularly reflecting on Will’s feeling of isolation.
  • Izzy (49:40): “Why is there gotta be one dyke on the show?...Why can’t Captain Will have someone else in the house?”
• Will’s Emotional Exit: The group comments on the heartfelt speeches between Will and Ashley, acknowledging how helpless non-physical players feel under the twist-heavy format.
  • Taran (41:24): “He felt so defeated…so much fight and work for nothing.”

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6. Meta-Conversation: Comp Dominance and BB’s Future (75:37 - 77:47)

• Comp Beasts vs. Dynamic Gameplay: Analysis of how comp heavy seasons (BB25, 26, 27) stifle unpredictability and drama.
  • Izzy (75:54): “Ideally…the perfect season would be every week someone else winning HOH. The comps are there to shift power.”
  • Taran (76:44): “It is undeniable that the best Big Brother always comes from a wider variety of HOH winners.”
• Strategic Engagement Gaps: The contrast with Survivor: Survivor players “show up and want to engage”; BB players seem “annoyed to have to play.”
  • Izzy (77:06): “On Survivor, people show up and want to engage…on BB, they're almost annoyed that they have to live in this house.”

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7. Notable Quotes & Moments

• Izzy (19:41): “I hate that guy [Vince]. He’s just so inauthentic...the one moment when you get to be legit, you know, I don’t believe anything he says.”
• Asia (26:41): “To have this whole segment because no one else in the house is giving you anything besides Vinnie and Morgan…”
• Taran (43:01): “Vinnie hasn’t convinced a soul in that house to do a single thing...not even allowed to vote out Ashley.”
• Rob (38:34): “If we had a segment on the podcast where we all hugged in silence for two minutes...would we keep that segment every week?”
• Izzy (44:46): “I’ve never seen someone so thoroughly explain to millions of people why nobody should be dating him. Vince has been very thorough about it.”
• Asia (47:24): “I've just reached the point where, like, so much that someone does starts to get on your nerves...the fact that Vince straightens his hair gets on my nerves.”

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Important Timestamps

• 03:57 – 06:25: Guest intros and Izzy on Amazing Race
• 08:04 – 09:21: Analysis of Keanu’s challenge win and competition imbalance
• 13:27 – 18:33: The Rachel eviction, White Locust twist, and production’s position
• 26:10 – 27:46: Production attempts to sell Keanu as Rachel's "replacement"
• 31:01 – 36:46: Vince/Morgan/Lauren storylines and live feeds discourse
• 39:10 – 42:13: Emotional speeches and Will’s eviction
• 48:59 – 50:05: Will’s isolation and casting critiques
• 55:47 – 57:20: Anticipation for the Zingbot and Vince’s DR deceptions
• 75:37 – 77:47: Discussion on comp beast seasons, BB vs. Survivor approach

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Lightning Round: Listener Questions & Panel Responses

• BB Comics Hot Takes: Izzy dislikes comics that are just puns or not relevant to actual gameplay/personality. (60:50)
• Vince’s Love Triangle: No, Lauren and Morgan would never confront Vince about his number one. (62:12)
• Kelly’s Bug Pranks: Disdain for Kelly’s habit of hiding dead bugs in the house, equating her to the “Bowie Jane” of the season. (63:11)
• Dream Final 3s: Izzy wants Ashley in it and both Keanu and Vince out; others support any scenario with Ashley and Morgan as possible winners. (66:10)
• Cross-show Appearances: Izzy’s open to the CBS trifecta and supports Survivor/BB swap seasons. (70:00)
• Comp Strategy Rant: Panel agrees the best BB is where power shifts are frequent, not comp-dominated (75:54).

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Closing Thoughts

The panel expresses overarching frustration with the season’s production tricks and the overreliance on competitions, while celebrating standout players like Rachel and critiquing lackluster showmances. The episode is peppered with inside-jokes for superfans, refreshingly candid takes, and calls for CBS to return to the franchise’s strategic and social roots.

As always, the hosts end with upcoming RHAP events, encouragement to join the discussion, and a humorous nudge to “give BB an award for live feeds—because what else is it winning?”

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[Full Eviction & Live Feed Updates Continue on RHAP]

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[Rob Cesternino]

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[Taran Armstrong]

I'm very excited because after all these years, I finally, I actually got my own bell here.

[Asia Welch]

Yes.

[Rob Cesternino]

That was so good. Yes. Okay. Pretty good. Yes. And Taran, happy audiobook announcement day to you.

[Taran Armstrong]

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[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. Congratulations on all of that. With us also tonight, happy to have back here, it's Asia Welch. Asia, how are you?

[Asia Welch]

Hi, Rob. I've seen better days. I feel like this is, it's kind of like, okay, you go to the casino, you lose, I don't know, $10,000. Right. That sucks that day. Right. Okay. Then a couple days later they're like, oh, actually we want you to re watch the, the security cam footage. Well, so you can watch it again. Oh, okay. Okay. That sucks. And then a few days later they're like, oh, actually we need you to come in and talk to the news about how you lost that $10,000.

[Taran Armstrong]

But you can't. You have to say it was your fault.

[Izzy Gleicher]

It all.

[Asia Welch]

My fault. Yeah. It wasn't the. The dealer's fault. The machine's fault. Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. I mean, you could be like, zach.

[Izzy Gleicher]

The rules on you at the last minute.

[Taran Armstrong]

Thought I was playing blackjack going into the casino. Expect the unexpected.

[Rob Cesternino]

And that was a real expect the unexpected, wasn't it? Right, right.

[Taran Armstrong]

It was when I put on the machine, and then you guys told me I wouldn't get paid anyway, that I did. I did not expect that. You're right. I should have known.

[Rob Cesternino]

You should have known. Okay. All right. And we're also very excited to have here with us. Of course, you know her from Big Brother 25, but also one of the stars of the brand new season of the Amazing Race. It's Izzy Gleicher. Izzy, how are you?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm very excited for the Amazing.

[Rob Cesternino]

You know, they said that Amazing Race season kicked off, I think, on Friday night. They said what? This past Friday night, they said it was officially time to start the Amazing Race.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah. Yeah. I've been racing for four months now.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Izzy, how are you?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm good. I'm good. Trucking through this Big Brother season. Yeah, it's kind of hard on the fan side of things after doing it. My experience on both watching BB 26 and 27 has been different than the before times, so.

[Rob Cesternino]

How so what's been different?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I don't know. I feel like I take everything personally that's happening in the house.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Like, I just can't not project, you know, and, like, put myself in there or just be extra heightened to all the things that are happening.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. How do you take it personally, Izzy?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I don't know. Like, I. It's not. That part's not rational, but I, like, feel it deeply in a way that I didn't before, even though I was like, yeah. So into it and loved, you know, and was such a fan.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. And we got that from you when you were in the house, so it makes sense that's how you are watching the show.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Okay. Fair. Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Okay.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah. You know, like, I. I like intensity. I'm not mad at that.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right, well, there's plenty of other things to be mad at than your intensity.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Oh, yeah. Well, fair.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. All right. We've got a lot to break down from eviction night here tonight. Let me just quickly thank our presenting sponsor for this episode of the podcast. Our friends over at manta sleep. Get 10% off your [e-mail] use promo code RHAP27. Okay. Taran. We were expecting that maybe this could be it. For Keanu tonight. But Keanu ends up getting a blockbuster that was really never in doubt for.

[Taran Armstrong]

Keanu about two seconds, and I'm not exaggerating, about two seconds in. You knew he was going to win.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, well, it really seemed like that this was worst case scenario for Will when it came down to I heard you say on the update today, well, who. Who do you want to win the. It was yesterday you were questions, who do you want to win the blockbuster? And you said you'd be happy if Will could win because it would mean that the comps at least were equitable. And for injured Will, really the worst case scenario to give him like the Michael Bruner untie yourself from the rope challenge.

[Taran Armstrong]

I mean, Will didn't even get a chance to compete in the hoh and even if he had, wouldn't have won it, played in a veto competition that injured him, and then played in this blockbuster. They're like the, the level of difficulty that somebody like Will plays the game at versus somebody like Keanu is so unbelievably and dramatically different. And. And you. He felt that he was so beaten down by it. And it's. It's brutal to watch.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Asia Welch]

Yeah, it's frustrating because, I mean, people have constantly made this comparison, but it's, it's the big challenge at this point, and it's like, there's literally no point in having a social game. If you do. Okay, good for you. You might be wasting your time because look what happened last Friday. It's just, I. It's hard because it's like, would. Do you ever see them making a shift and realizing, wait, this is kind of. This is kind of weird what's been happening or. No, because they're, they're, they're saying, oh, this is the most.

[Rob Cesternino]

It's about the most talked about twist.

[Izzy Gleicher]

In the history of the show.

[Rob Cesternino]

Don't tell them what they're saying.

[Izzy Gleicher]

They don't care.

[Rob Cesternino]

You know, but it's so talked about.

[Izzy Gleicher]

The biggest travesty to me is the lack of back door. Like, to me, that's like every. I don't know what this trend in, like, house guests talking about the back door of, like, well, I would never do that. Like, how horrible not to give someone a chance. No, the back door is like a strategic mechanism to even, like, if you have a social game and you can backdoor someone, that is the equivalent of winning comps. Like, that is your way of evening the score between people that can win comps and people that can't win comps. You know, like, it's just. To me, that's the worst part of all of this, that the blockbuster is continuing and that, like, it just doesn't matter. And the house guests are unhappy. They're saying it doesn't matter too, you know, so that's devastating. Those days are long in there. To feel like none of your work ultimately matters, you know, not that they're doing good work. That's a whole other Taran.

[Rob Cesternino]

By your count, is this the sixth week that Keanu has saved himself in some way in a situation where he would have gone home had he sat on the block for the vote?

[Taran Armstrong]

I think it's. It's at least the fifth week because he's won. He won three vetoes and one blockbuster, and then he won this blockbuster. Every single one of those weeks, he would. He was going to be evicted.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Look at him.

[Asia Welch]

It's wild. I mean, if you saw that, like, you. Okay, like you said two seconds in, you saw the way he's just, like, pulling his body through this thing effortlessly, like, with ease. He did not break a sweat because this is every day for him. Like, the. The amount of videos that were on my timeline today of workout videos with him using ropes, like, this is just another day. Like, this was breakfast for him.

[Taran Armstrong]

And he. Like, he massively screwed up at the end as well. He spent a ton of time at the. At the last bit because he messed up. He got his rope tangled. He went too many times around the pole. And any other player, if that happened to them, you'd be like, wow, they really screwed it up, didn't they? Hey, Keanu, do you regret not doing better at the challenge? Do you regret that? Except he had such a massive advantage because of what the challenge was. The other portion of it, that it didn't matter. He can screw up as much as he wants. He'll stay still. A win.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. I was surprised he didn't try to go take his key earlier.

[Asia Welch]

I was thinking that, too.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I was impressed. I mean, I was impressed with that because I thought that, too, and I was like, wow. The key is always to wait it out, you know, I mean, he had so much time. He knew he was ahead. Why not get a little bit more work?

[Rob Cesternino]

Was the classic move where Keanu's going slow, and you're like, what is he doing? But there you go, Keanu.

[Asia Welch]

Even Will, even Will gave it a go.

[Rob Cesternino]

Will gave it a go. And then Will looked like. Seemingly was, like, left for dead at the end of the challenge where that they were showing Like, Will had to go, like, sit down in the corner, and I was like, all right, can we check on Will? Is he okay?

[Izzy Gleicher]

He knew, you know. Yeah, the blockers are just the equivalent. It's the same as this ass Rachel thing. Sorry for my language. Yeah, it's the same. You know, it's just, like, automatically. That changes everything. All plans, everything you wanted.

[Rob Cesternino]

Well, Izzy, we haven't gotten to hear from you about the Rachel situation. And so I guess, you know, it's only fair for us to ask you, how were you feeling about the f. Ass Rachel thing?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Listen, I. I don't think I'm going to be saying anything original here. Like, I. I think that that twist degrades the integrity of the Grant game, a game that already maybe doesn't have that much integrity left. You know, it's like, expect the unexpected. People casuals are going to say that until their mouth is dry, but it's like, expect the unexpected within parameters, you know, to me, it's as painful as final four fire. It's like, we spent all this time, and you're gonna just, like, make them make fire and it doesn't matter. Yes. There's a social aspect.

[Rob Cesternino]

I know this is a tough week for you with the final four fires.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Izzy, listen, I. You know, it's like, yeah, it. There's a social aspect, of course, in the daisy chain, right? You want your allies to go first, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I know people blame Ava. I don't think Ava made the right decision in choosing Vince, but I think Vince was a dumbass for choosing his ego over a solid group of five, you know? So I really think that it's. We should blame Vince more. We should blame Vince for everything.

[Rob Cesternino]

So. Any time you want. Yeah, let's go. Don't tempt us with a good time.

[Izzy Gleicher]

But don't shave his mustache, because he's better looking without it, and I don't want to give him that.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay, let's use this as a chance to bring in the Rachel of it all, because Rachel got to come out. Brendan joined us the other night. He told us that he had to go dress shopping for what Rachel was gonna wear.

[Asia Welch]

Great.

[Rob Cesternino]

Great job.

[Asia Welch]

Job.

[Rob Cesternino]

The classic.

[Asia Welch]

She looked amazing.

[Rob Cesternino]

It coming up on Thursday night. And then here comes Rachel to talk about everything. And Julie Chen. Moonvest tells Rachel the White Locust will go down as one of the most talked about twists in Big Brother history.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Boo. Tomato. People talking about it. People mad. Yeah, People very mad. Julie.

[Rob Cesternino]

I think Rachel was even like, all.

[Izzy Gleicher]

The change in the Script. All the change in the scripts of, like bringing up social. Oh, the social.

[Rob Cesternino]

The social aspect, yes.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Will your social game save you? You, you don't even know what this game is that you're producing.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, okay, well, Julie says to Rachel, well, it was, it wasn't this the ultimate example of expect the unexpected? Wasn't it though?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Rachel's a professional.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay, what would you have said?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm pretty jury. Okay, so.

[Rob Cesternino]

Well, how would you have answered that question if Julie said to you.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Say it again, Rob.

[Rob Cesternino]

Izzy, what if Julie said to you. But wasn't this the ultimate example of expect the unexpected?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I mean, based on that question, like. Sure, yes, yes, Julie, it is the ultimate, but it's bad. You got one good episode and now you've got all these chickens left in the house. You know, you're gonna show my iconica Comic behind us while I sit as first jury. It's embarrassing, Big Brother, you know, like she was playing the best game that she's ever played. Which also is not an original thought, but it just, it was so obvious that she was playing such a great game given the circumstances. I kind of hate when there's like one. Maybe this is ironic coming from me, but like, I hate when there's one returner or something, you know, like, unless three almost doesn't count because she had a second. You know, that's, that's a whole other story. But like, I, you know, I think, I mean, these players don't know Big Brother. They don't really care, you know? Yeah, it was interesting.

[Rob Cesternino]

Listen, Serene was a first time Big Brother player. What did she know about Big Brother? She's coming in just vibing off of Survivor and the traitors.

[Izzy Gleicher]

You right? She's chilling. She got that robe. She's happy. Yeah, she was very.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. So, Taryn, Julie asks Rachel about, wow, how much did the social aspect of this, this, this White locust effect playing your strategy? What about the social part of the twist?

[Taran Armstrong]

This genuinely pissed me off more than the twist itself.

[Rob Cesternino]

Jenny, why do you think I asked you the question?

[Taran Armstrong]

Get out of here.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah.

[Taran Armstrong]

Are you kidding me?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Whack him again.

[Taran Armstrong]

It's one thing to make a mistake. It's another thing to know you made the mistake and double down anyway and try to act like you didn't make a mistake and throw it in her face and literally trotting her out of the dungeon, having no outside contact and being like, say the lines for us, Rachel. Say the lines. It was social game, wasn't it? Do you regret the way that you handled it. How about, do you regret the way that you handled it? Come on, Grodner, let's do an interview. Why aren't you talking?

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, that would have been a great response. Would you say, do you now that I'm sitting here iconic. Your words, not mine. Do you regret the way that you handled this?

[Asia Welch]

Right. It's so ridiculous. It's embarrassing the class that Rachel has. Because she's a pro.

[Rob Cesternino]

She's a pro's pro, Asia.

[Asia Welch]

Yes, she really is. Oh, I can't. Okay. I know we have been giving her her flowers, but I just want to give her some real flowers. Oh, real flowers. Real crochet flowers. These are for Rachel. And all that she's given to this game, the love that she's given to this game, the class and just respect that she has for the game, that does not deserve it. But she still just manages to just come out looking amazing, giving the best answer she can, and it's just like they don't deserve it.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. So Rachel tells us she knew about the Hamster Wheel of Death. She knew from Reindeer Games. She knew what it needed to be. She really felt like that it needed to start off with her going first and then having the judge, the judges having control of how it was all going to go down. And then Ava gave it all away to Vinnie the Lip.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I hate that guy.

[Rob Cesternino]

Why do you hate Vinnie?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I hate that guy. I. You know, he's just so inauthentic, you know, and even in his drs or his shoutouts, he's continuing to be inauthentic. Like, the one moment where you get to be legit, you know, I don't believe anything he says. As a viewer, not being able to believe anything the house guest says is like, so. Sucks, so bad.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

You know, I mean, and he just gave it. He just gave it away. His ego loves that cute, innocent, indecisive nothing. Lauren is all upon him. And he loves that Morgan's like, rubbing, rubbing, rubbing. And it's like he had five people at nine. You had five people at nine, including Morgan, that was going to take you. That's not going to give you enough time to find another Lauren amongst them. Like, they don't, you know, Like, I just think it was, like, definitively bad. He thinks he's so smart. He doesn't know anything. He doesn't. I don't think he knows the show, you know, like, anyway, is he.

[Rob Cesternino]

He's been a fan for over 10 years.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I call Bull Poop a fan of what?

[Asia Welch]

Because he has mentioned so many seasons he hasn't seen. So what is he a fan of?

[Izzy Gleicher]

They've all watch ass BB25 and BB26. That's all they watch. It's like, that's not good. Big brother.

[Rob Cesternino]

What if he's a huge fan of yours? Is he?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Say it again.

[Rob Cesternino]

What if he's a huge fan of yours?

[Izzy Gleicher]

That will be. He's not.

[Asia Welch]

You don't know who I am.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I can't wait to be at the finale party and none of them know who I am and I'm just observing. I can't wait.

[Rob Cesternino]

Truly.

[Taran Armstrong]

Anyway, Vince doesn't strike me as the kind of person that would be a fan of Izzy.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, exactly.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay.

[Asia Welch]

Yeah. Even in the Doctor. Yeah. When he. After voting, like, oh, you know, let's come.

[Rob Cesternino]

Let's get. Let's talk all about Vinnie in a bit. I just want to finish talking through the Rachel segment with Julie because it's going to be harder to come back to that. So did Rachel ever consider another person going, rachel, did you ever consider putting Will or Ashley into the hand? Rachel's like, yeah, I was considering putting Will into the hamster wheel. That would have been a good way to go.

[Asia Welch]

Because she had to like the only way that makes sense is putting in someone she knows for sure would do three 30s. So then they can pawn it off on Kelly or Keanu or whatever. But it was just like you're down to the wire at that point. They're just, what do you call it? Picking splitting hairs.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, well, it's like I feel like the hamster wheel, the way that that played out was like the only one having sort of. I mean it wasn't good long term thinking. But I think Vince was the only one that tried to use it as like, you know, to deal with like a long term plan that he had with Lauren and Morgan. I mean he botched it. Right. Because Morgan's pissed. Rightfully so. But like no one else really thought about that because you know, Rachel was thinking about it but she didn't have a chance to get in there early. You know, she was kept trying to explain or like really wanted to convey. Like this is also going to determine Hohenza, which I think is an extra element of why how screwed up that twist was that the minute someone's eliminated, no one else has a chance to like play for hoh. Like I think that's all of that just degrades the game and what you know. Yeah, Vince botched it the most though. Ava is like, Ava's A mess like, Ava. Listen, I don't think. I think what Rachel did by grabbing her and wanting to talk to her alone is a valid. That's what happens in Big Brother. But I think Rachel being who she is and having that intensity, Ava not really wanting power and being a little. I think it was more. It was less about the physical and more like, don't tell me what to do.

[Taran Armstrong]

You know, don't make me associated with you was the big thing.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah. I just think, like. Yeah, I think Rachel didn't see that, you know, that was a mistake in her social read on the house. That Ava was going to, like, react in a, you know, reactionary way to that.

[Taran Armstrong]

The whole thing reminded me of. I watched a YouTube video the other day that was, like, talking about this, like, weird wedding show where, like, the husband plans the wedding for the bride. And it was about this guy who planned a wedding on an airplane for his bride who was, like, devastated. But what he did was he wrote down two options for multiple things and then put them on pieces of paper and had her choose. And so her choice was, you can have a wedding on a plane or in a prison, and she didn't know which one she was choosing.

[Rob Cesternino]

Left or right block on the Amazing Race, plane or prison. And then in plane, players will go to the plane and get married.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I would not be married to this man.

[Taran Armstrong]

She accidentally chose. And then afterward, he was like, hey, you picked it. You could have picked the other one.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, but how did she accidentally pick the cheap dress? Like, she actually touched it. She.

[Taran Armstrong]

She picks. She picked the right side. That was the cheap. He left the other. Oh, sorry. That was the expensive one. Was. The other side should have picked the other one. That's what Big Brother is doing.

[Rob Cesternino]

Frank Video.

[Taran Armstrong]

No. This was a genuine wedding that happened.

[Izzy Gleicher]

The Straits are unwell. I just can't. That would never happen in my. Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

And then Julie really made a meal out of that. Rachel, what about your relationship with Keanu? What about Keanu? You said to Keanu that. Don't. I'm counting on you. And Rachel, I think I said, don't disappoint me.

[Izzy Gleicher]

She's the best.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, but wouldn't you say that you and Keanu had this relationship, and Rachel's like, I respect his game. I know. I can't say that I do. I do not respect his game. So, yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Effort in the game.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes. Asia, I think the words that Rachel were looking for was bless his heart.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah.

[Asia Welch]

As we love to say down here in Texas. You know, it was funny because it was just like, they're trying to bring in this storyline. They've been pressing home for 60 days. But then it's like, oh, wait, Rachel, let's not move on from this, because this is a storyline we've really been focusing on, so we got to put a pin in it somehow. We got to wrap it up. Y' all did this. This could still be a thing in the house.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Asia Welch]

Like, the way they made a meal of that scene yesterday of Rachel and Keanu.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Oh, my God.

[Asia Welch]

Like, the fact that you had to pull from someone that's not in the house anymore to. To have this whole segment because no one else in the house is giving you anything besides Vincent Morgan, whatever that is.

[Rob Cesternino]

Well, I think you even got this from Ashley on the show this week of that Ashley saying, like, keanu, well, I don't have Rachel anymore, but Ray, you know, Keanu could be Rachel. And I think that in production's eyes, I think that they are really trying to say, hey, everybody, you're sad about Rachel. Keanu is the new Rachel. We have Keanu. He's our. He's. He's the star of the show now.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Gross.

[Asia Welch]

You know, this segment with Rachel's interview and just hearing Julie say, we're gonna hear from Rachel who got eliminated or got, you know, eliminated from the White Locust, I. I realized that my delusion knows no bounds, because I was like, is she coming back? Like, is she gonna get back in the house? Because it was just like, there's no way they're just gonna bring this out here and just dangle the game in her face. Like, oh, let's talk about, you know, let's rub this in some more. Ugh. Just so disappointed.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, they did it. But do we think that we're gonna get another elimination like this based off of what we were teased with for next week?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Well, they've already gone back in their language, Right. Because, like, wasn't it teased that this was going to happen two more times? And now it's just, you know, it didn't happen tonight, and it's like an automatic.

[Rob Cesternino]

Because I think that they know how deeply unpopular this was, so they did not advertise it if it's going to happen again like this.

[Asia Welch]

Right.

[Taran Armstrong]

Well, they said there's a double eviction next week, right?

[Izzy Gleicher]

They said double, but before, when they.

[Asia Welch]

Announced a month of mayhem. How. How is it now still a month of mayhem? We're going to double eviction.

[Taran Armstrong]

That's like, par for the course for them.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah.

[Taran Armstrong]

I don't think it's surprising at all that they would call something a month of mayhem and have one thing happen?

[Asia Welch]

Yeah, they said oops.

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[Rob Cesternino]

All right, let's talk about Vince and this episode where they opened the show tonight talking about how Vince was getting himself into trouble trying to keep both the women in his life happy. And I Was like, what do you mean? Both really, really trying to make.

[Taran Armstrong]

He's not trying very hard for the third.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Okay. So we really set up this storyline of Vince with Lauren and Vince with Morgan in the house. And we even got to see a lot of Morgan being unhappy with Vince and not talking to him and Vince trying to try to make things right with Morgan.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Did I do something?

[Rob Cesternino]

Was it me?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Bro, Bro.

[Asia Welch]

The fact that his efforts weren't even that good. Like, how mad she was. Like, his attempt at getting her affection back like that. It wasn't even this great attempt. Like, oh, okay. He has such a way with words.

[Izzy Gleicher]

He just rubbed his mustache on her wrist. That'll do it.

[Rob Cesternino]

Did we get a hand kiss? What do you think?

[Taran Armstrong]

I'm all over you. I'm gonna be a Klingon.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. I'm gonna go with you in the bathroom. He said, you know.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I know. It's, like, horrible. It's. Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes. Asia, was that a hand kiss that I.

[Asia Welch]

That was a hand kiss. I. There's like, I don't care if. If there was no audio that they included on the show. You watch that feeds clip over and over and over. You know, that is a kiss on the hand. And then continue to caress it, every corner of his mouth without wanting to kiss more. Like, he was flirting with kissing it again, and he just couldn't like it. Like, oh, my gosh, it was just so uncomfortable.

[Taran Armstrong]

Nobody in the history of humanity has done this without kissing like, that. You just. That just doesn't happen. It's literally, you kiss somebody. That's a thing that people do.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I don't understand this cast. And they're not understanding. Even if live feeds didn't exist, you know that you're being filmed 247 because they're making a show about what happens in the house. And so. But. But they're making a show, right? Like, so even if you're not on live feeds, like, aren't you concerned that your weird mustache kissing and stuff is going to make it into the edit somehow, even if you're unaware of the feeds? And listen, I'm not a production sympathizer. I am not. But they tell us about the live feeds that I know there was discourse about. Well, they are hiding it. They are not.

[Rob Cesternino]

What do they tell you, Izzy?

[Izzy Gleicher]

They're like, the cameras are on 247 and there are people that watch 24 7. Like, they say that. They say that, you know, and even if they don't say it, you're really that dumb. The one Thing Big Brother has over every other show is live feeds. It's like the most amazing thing. I don't understand why they don't uplift the thing that actually makes them different, the edit. The TV show they produce ain't getting no Emmys. The TV show itself sucks. The show is in the live feeds. And so the fact that they don't first of all uplift the thing that sets them apart from these other shows that are getting all this like TV edit, like, that's crazy to me. And the fact that these people that want to play this game.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Understand. It to me is such. That's what I take personally.

[Rob Cesternino]

Now you got me thinking, do we need to start giving some awards to Big Brother for having live feeds? And so, like we have like the best live feeds awards and the. And the nominees are Big Brother, Survivor, the Traitors, RuPaul's Drag Race, and the Amazing Race. And then, and then we'll announce the winner. And the winner is for best live feeds, it's Big Brother.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Now with all skippy and then getting that.

[Asia Welch]

What was the rating last week of the live feeds? 1.7.

[Rob Cesternino]

They still had the best live feeds. Give Darren, they. We need to attract them with honey, not vinegar.

[Taran Armstrong]

This is the problem. They're the only game in town. They've been the only game in town for 25 years. This is why we're all stuck here in this asylum.

[Asia Welch]

We're trapped.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I hate it here. I hate it here. Yeah, I think also should they get.

[Rob Cesternino]

Sued for being a monopoly?

[Taran Armstrong]

Yes. Get the FCC involved.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, they should show you.

[Rob Cesternino]

Come back.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Show them to the jury. Don't you also think the house guests should get to watch the blockbuster? Like, why does Big Brother want to keep the houseguests dumb? You know, like on Survivor. I don't think tribal is like that revealing, but it is a glimpse, you.

[Asia Welch]

Know, speak more to that dynamic.

[Izzy Gleicher]

It is a glimpse, you know, like, you see what's going on. You. The jury is totally blind to just sit with their bitter ass feelings and not have the chance to like, appreciate like what's going on at large. And like, maybe you know, what pulls it away from being personal and understanding why they couldn't be in the game for this person that's winning, like, everyone in the house is just like, oh, well, they were my friend. So I have their jury vote. That's not what the game is. Are you going to talk about your game at the end and want these people to respect you enough to not win the money and give it to You. I hate these people. Like. Yeah. So anyway, I'm heated. You know, I'm drinking, so. Okay, I'll stop now.

[Rob Cesternino]

You're good. Okay. I mean, this eviction night, Izzy, this is what people want to see.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm telling you. Anyway. Yeah. Don't you think? Live feeds in the jury house.

[Rob Cesternino]

Why not?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, why not? Right? He could choose to watch it or not, but, like, what? Like, I don't understand. Yeah, I guess I don't understand the. I've never understood that. Why keeping them in the dark is better for them to. End result.

[Rob Cesternino]

Wait, so you want. You want us to see what's happening in the jury house, and you want the people in the jury house to watch the live feeds of.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I want them to be able to watch the house. Why not? Why not give them information? I don't get that.

[Asia Welch]

And then they have access to a window.

[Taran Armstrong]

My theory. My theory was that they felt like the ending of Big Brother 4 was too much of a bummer, because that's the only season where they showed the sequester jury the episodes before. After they cast the votes. And so when they revealed the votes, they were all just like, also, screw both of you, June and Allison, we hate you. Nobody wanted either of them to win.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. I think it's also that they don't want the people in the jury house. So, like, going off on like that. There. There's. They're following another story that's not in the TV show. And so I think that they want. At the point where they get the jury out of the house, that they want them on the same page as the audience. I think.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I hate that.

[Rob Cesternino]

Like. Well, they won four comps, right?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, sure.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. So we saw Keanu ultimately win the blockbuster. They come back in the house, and this was such a dud tonight of, like, okay, coming back in. No. Yeah, Everybody, some. Some light applause, some hugs. That's it.

[Asia Welch]

Not a single conversation in sight.

[Rob Cesternino]

No conversation, bro.

[Taran Armstrong]

I had the thought.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Taran Armstrong]

If we had a segment on the podcast where somebody walked in and then we all hugged in silence for two minutes.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Taran Armstrong]

Do you think we would keep that segment every single week, or do you think we would be like, you know, maybe we should tighten that up for a podcast. You know what I mean?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I want to ban hugging from the Big Brother house. Don't touch me. Don't hug me.

[Rob Cesternino]

Now you sound like Ava. No.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Just hugging. Just hugging. Don't hug me.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Don't come for me.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. We did get some emotional speeches with Will and Ashley up There on the block, they have a very close relationship, like a father, daughter, and. Sorry, Will and Ashley. Ashley almost, like, could not get the words out. This is, like, the first time that we've had somebody that emotional on the block.

[Asia Welch]

I mean, I. That was my favorite part of the episode.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, mine too.

[Asia Welch]

I loved. I love the. The human chemistry between this father and daughter in the house. It was just like. It was. It was cool to see just how much they've connected, and it was just like, okay, this is great. Look at. Look at the social element of the house. The. The casual viewers probably, like, what. They were friends.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

No, I thought it was. I. I think it's like. It's like, also, because how helpless did they feel tonight, you know, with Keanu? Just like, you know, the minute they got strapped up, they were like, well, it's us.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

You know, like, they knew it.

[Rob Cesternino]

Oh, this is what the challenges. Yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Now put me in that block.

[Rob Cesternino]

That's bad.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Me up, Rob.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And so Will ultimately gave his speech. Taryn, did you think that Will was gonna fall on his sword here? Did you think he was going to say to vote him out?

[Taran Armstrong]

No, No, I don't think he was gonna say. I mean, he basically told Ashley she had carte blanche to campaign against him, but. But he never actually, like, said, vote me out. He. He campaigned, you know, in his way. He's never been much of a pusher, and that persisted in his campaign. But I think a lot of it, too, was that he just felt so defeated. It was like, you know, I think he felt the way that we felt when we watched Rachel leave, which was like, all of that fight, all of that work for nothing. He can fight and campaign and push and do all this stuff to survive this one vote only. To lose the next five competitions and be on the block every single time and be dragged to the final four, where he loses again because he has no shot. And then they take him out right before the end, and it's like, what? I think he felt like, what is the point? Why am I here?

[Izzy Gleicher]

You just pitched it for him. I was thinking, like, he's sitting there with that knee bracelet, as awful as it sounds. But this season is all comps, you know, I mean, I don't want Ashley. Ashley's my last hope for who I.

[Asia Welch]

Want in the season.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Like, I'm all in on Ashley 100%, but it's like, from the other House guests perspective, you know, it's not like Ashley's winning comps necessarily, but she's like, maybe physically more capable right now than will. I don't know. Maybe y' all should keep Will. That should have been Will's pitch.

[Asia Welch]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Will said, been here a long time. It's tough. You all love me. I'm a lovable type of dude. No tears. All cheers and shout out to my chocolate drop. And Julie, very tastefully tonight, did not ask Will if she was his lemon drop.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Oh, my God.

[Asia Welch]

Good thing. I mean, she said, well, according.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I know.

[Asia Welch]

According to Vincent Keanu, it's his white chocolate drop.

[Rob Cesternino]

No. Right.

[Asia Welch]

Like, what? What. What are they thinking? You're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Will's white wife is white.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Asia Welch]

His chocolate drop.

[Rob Cesternino]

They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. That's right. Yeah. Okay. I want to talk about. Then it came down to. We had two votes to evict will and two votes to evict Ashley. And as things always tend to do here in The Big Brother 27 house, it all came down to Vince. First off, Taryn, did you think there was any chance that Vince was going to evict Ashley?

[Taran Armstrong]

There was definitely a chance. I mean, he was so. And this is the funny thing about, like, Vinnie always convinces people to do. Vinnie hasn't convinced a soul in that house to do a single thing. And that includes let him. Let him vote out Ashley because he really wanted to. And he spent two full days begging anybody to allow him to do it, trying to convince them that it's okay for him to vote Ashley out, and he couldn't. And so there was a part of me that sure thought, like, despite the fact that he told everyone right before the feeds went down today, he was planning to vote to keep Ashley. There was definitely a chance that, like, Will had a chemo moment. And, you know, Vince just decided, screw it. I'll just beg for forgiveness afterwards. Yeah, but of course.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay, well, here we go. What is Vince gonna do? Let's hear.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I sadly vote to victwill.

[Rob Cesternino]

Thank you for your service.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Will.

[Rob Cesternino]

Gwen, all veterans out there.

[Taran Armstrong]

And, Kelsey, I love you. I miss you.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. All right. So I vote to pick will. Thank you for your service. Will, stop.

[Izzy Gleicher]

And he said that when he hugged him, I was like, ah.

[Rob Cesternino]

And then, of course, Kelsey, I love your name.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Is you.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes.

[Asia Welch]

I'm surprised he remembers her name at this point.

[Izzy Gleicher]

At this point.

[Taran Armstrong]

Leave her name out of your mouth, Vince. Like, leave her alone at all cost.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I mean, how can you be. How can you say you're a fan of the show and just understand that you're on a TV show and then act like that.

[Asia Welch]

The way the eviction happened in. Him and Morgan are hugged up on each other. Neither one of y' all was on the block.

[Izzy Gleicher]

What are you doing?

[Asia Welch]

Why is this a moment?

[Izzy Gleicher]

They need their moment. I'm surprised they didn't dress alike tonight.

[Taran Armstrong]

You know, they wanted to.

[Rob Cesternino]

So how about that?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I have nothing to say about him.

[Asia Welch]

How dare people think that they're in a showmance.

[Rob Cesternino]

Mixed messages for Kelly, for Kelsey tonight.

[Taran Armstrong]

What did I do wrong?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm so glad that made the show. I don't even care about the show. Like, so glad that made the show. Yeah.

[Asia Welch]

She's like, no, but she was nowhere to be found tonight. But it's like Kelsey's like, but you kissed her hand. Like. Like you're trying to, like, win back her affection. You kissed her hand? No, I put my mustache in the vicinity of her hand. What's wrong with that? I thought you weren't jealous.

[Taran Armstrong]

Kelsey, I love you.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Name is you. No. No. Justice for Kelsey. Okay, Kelsey, I'm gonna follow you everywhere.

[Rob Cesternino]

I'm gonna be a clinger. I'm gonna follow you in the bathroom now. Gonna eat dinner with you. You're gonna get all the mustache kisses.

[Taran Armstrong]

I've never seen someone so thoroughly explain to millions of people why nobody should be dating him. You know what I mean?

[Izzy Gleicher]

His unemployed ass.

[Taran Armstrong]

Like, plenty of people have done plenty to explain why they shouldn't be dating him. But Vince has been very thorough about it.

[Asia Welch]

Oh.

[Taran Armstrong]

Like, he's. He's already given you steps one through ten of, like, the fights.

[Rob Cesternino]

It's.

[Taran Armstrong]

You already know every step of it. Oh, so what did I do? I didn't think you were. Oh, but what? And I'm so sorry. I'm such a loser.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Oh, but come, come back. He's got that victim complex, like, ego stroking, nasty little man thing. You know, like, he hate it.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Asia Welch]

Because if he gets out of the house. Let's play this through. He gets out of the house, he's like, hey, Kelsey. She's like, get away from me. He's like, well, at least I have Morgan. And then Morgan's like, actually, I was clouded. My judgment was clouded in there from last season.

[Izzy Gleicher]

And they're gonna have a great.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, okay.

[Izzy Gleicher]

You'll be like, vince, who, like, right, yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Morgan is eligible bachelorette.

[Asia Welch]

I've just reached the point where, like, you know, so much that someone does starts to get on your nerves. And, like, stuff they do shouldn't get on your nerves, but, like, the fact that Vince straightens his. Ha. Yeah, that really gets on my nerves.

[Rob Cesternino]

Why does that bother you? Why does it bother you, Asia?

[Asia Welch]

He has a beautiful curl.

[Izzy Gleicher]

He does.

[Asia Welch]

But literally, you only straighten it because you don't know what to do. You have been in a house with. For. With other people who can teach you something.

[Rob Cesternino]

They did.

[Taran Armstrong]

They showed him a whole curly routine.

[Asia Welch]

Whatever.

[Izzy Gleicher]

And I also don't want to give that to production. So I would like to think that him straightening his hair is, you know, a nod against. That's the one flower I'll give him. It looks terrible. I mean, it's terrible. It's not a good look.

[Asia Welch]

Chappelle, in this chat said Kelsey likes straight hair.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Chappelle, get out of here, please.

[Asia Welch]

He's been. He's been on it all night. He said, friends can't kiss friends hands. Y' all straight.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right, so let's talk about Will. When he comes out to go and sit with Julie and, you know, has a nice chat with Julie, basically tells her about how he was going to win the game. They had to get rid of him.

[Taran Armstrong]

Yeah, maybe.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. He talks about what it was like to be in the house. All these young people. Not easy.

[Asia Welch]

Yeah, look, he had very entertaining segments on the show. Mm, I love that.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Well, he said this thing. I forget what day it was a couple days ago on the feeds. Taryn will probably tell me when it was, but he was talking. I don't even remember who, but he was like, I don't have any. Like, what does it feel like? Like, I don't have anyone that's the same as me. Like, there's no other older person in the house. There's no other black man in the house. There's no. There's nothing that's connecting me immediately, you know, off the rip to someone else that, like, can share my experience in this house. And it just, like, broke my heart, you know? Like, it's like, that's my. That's my constant beef with casting on all shows is like, why can't you get why. There's enough slots, give everyone a pair. Like, that's interesting casting anyway, you know, like, why is there got to be one dyke on the show? You know? Like that people on my cast have never met a lesbian before. You know what I mean? Why can't. You know, we can have a thousand Lauren and Catherine's every season and events, but we can't. We can't give Captain Will, you know, like someone else in the house.

[Rob Cesternino]

I mean, Red and Cameron had each.

[Asia Welch]

Other.

[Izzy Gleicher]

That'S what I'm saying.

[Asia Welch]

Exactly.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Those people get friends, you know, those get. People get that.

[Taran Armstrong]

You know, I'm sorry, but Cameron, as he explained, is actually discriminated against. Against as a straight white man. That's. Oh, yeah, that's because, you know, he has a hard time.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Who said that's not allowed to.

[Taran Armstrong]

Cameron said that.

[Asia Welch]

Who?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I haven't heard of him.

[Rob Cesternino]

If you've got questions in the chat, go ahead and post them away. We'll take some of your questions for later on in this show. Okay, we're down to. Is this the final seven now? Seven. And. And just. Just to. For the record, heading into final seven, we are still doing a blockbuster next week. Put up three people on the block.

[Izzy Gleicher]

But you know what? I swear to God, a cold ass, but I don't care. That's right. Have that clip ready.

[Rob Cesternino]

Right. We're doing this.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm so mad. I would be so mad. I would be causing a ruckus.

[Rob Cesternino]

Like, why does it behoove one to win HOH this week? Is it basically, are you just winning safety?

[Taran Armstrong]

So I talked about this this morning on the update.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes.

[Taran Armstrong]

That Lauren has come to the conclusion that it's actually better if somebody targeting her like Keanu wins HOH than if somebody else won hoh. Like, like anybody. Anybody that's not targeting her. Because if Keanu wins HOH and she's on the block, Keanu can't vote her out. And if somebody else is on is in HOH and and she's on the block anyway because of the blockbuster, most people are going to go up on the block anyway. Then Keanu is one of the potentially two votes to take her out of the game. Two or three votes to take her out. Again. She'd rather him be hoh so he can't be a vote to take her out. She feels better about surviving a vote than. Than about, you know, being targeted in the first place.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Well, right. Because during the week she, she would, she wouldn't. She's too scared to talk to people. So that it is what it is. So she'd rather not have that person's vote against her. That, whatever. I mean, she's botched both of her. But it's like also, it's like the blockbuster's fault also. You know, I mean, she bought. I'm not a Lauren fan.

[Taran Armstrong]

But listen, she screwed up so bad. She knew exactly what she had to do. She threw this veto. If she hadn't thrown that veto, Morgan would have been competing against Keanu in this rope Competition. Maybe she has a chance against him, considering he messed up the end part, and then one of Morgan or Keanu would have gone home, and that would have been amazing for her game, but instead, she threw it so she would be forced to nominate.

[Izzy Gleicher]

And why did she want that? I don't get that. If I'm ho, I want that veto, you know? Like, that seems like the only reason.

[Taran Armstrong]

She genuinely just felt bad. She felt like she. She said, I don't want to be like, a. A backstabber.

[Izzy Gleicher]

You're playing big brother. Like, you don't know.

[Asia Welch]

She's not.

[Taran Armstrong]

I. I know. I know. Izzy, I'm so sorry.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I don't want that. She did. I don't even like her. But she's like, not even. I know you're doing. You're playing the scene that I'm gonna talk about. How dare you be hoh and put someone on the block and then cry. Well, fake cry and not make eye contact with them and want them to comfort you for how hard it is that I put you on the block. It's like.

[Taran Armstrong]

I know.

[Asia Welch]

I'm sorry. She's. She's looking as if she's looking at the memory wall. Lauren, there are eight people in this house. You have no reason to have to fake look at the memory route. Like, I'm just trying to. Like.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm just trying to, like, you might.

[Asia Welch]

As well look at the ground at that point.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, I really don't like that. The show has really tried to make the fact that she's from Louisiana a thing now, like, all of a sudden. Like, there was no mention of this whatsoever before BB Comics, and now. Now it's like, in the opening, they're calling her, like, and the Louisiana princess is doing, like, who. What.

[Taran Armstrong]

What else do they have?

[Asia Welch]

Literally, she's not giving us anything with her personality, so we got to go back to the drawing board.

[Rob Cesternino]

I don't even think in her opening package, I don't think they mentioned, like, here she is. She's on the swamps. She's hanging out with, like, since when? Lauren.

[Taran Armstrong]

They'D love to call her the super fan. That's what they were trying at the.

[Rob Cesternino]

Start, but she threw a veto for no reason.

[Izzy Gleicher]

That's crazy.

[Asia Welch]

You know what they really should have gone with that just made the surfaces on, like, the interwebs is her being part of the dance mom's crew when she was younger. Yeah, that would have been a great, like, the dancer.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah. Yes.

[Asia Welch]

Like, it makes so much more sense. Sense to know. Okay. If she was part of that. Maybe she had a very strict, like, disciplined upbringing. That's why she's like, doesn't really know how to interact with other people.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Asia Welch]

I don't know.

[Rob Cesternino]

Well, this really should be an all time season for the Zingbot to come in here on Saturday because that there's so much material for all these folks that this should be. When Taryn does the life heat up it on Sunday, he should be telling us about how like, wow, the Zingbot was like Nikki Glazer in there in the Zingbot killing low hanging Fruit Vince.

[Taran Armstrong]

You walk on eggshells. Zing.

[Rob Cesternino]

I think the Zingbot will do a number on Vince. I think Vince is the one that gets like the like extended song or.

[Taran Armstrong]

If they don't make some reference to his relationship status, the show has failed us.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes. Shades of Christine and BB 16 Shades.

[Taran Armstrong]

Of Christine, Shades of Austin. They have done it before. The preced is there and this is like the most egregious case of all time.

[Rob Cesternino]

Hey, production, if you're listening, remember Vince loves to lie about his relationship in the diary room.

[Izzy Gleicher]

He does.

[Rob Cesternino]

He's lying to you, right? And the fact he's making you guys look dumb. He thinks he's smarter than you guys.

[Asia Welch]

The fact that the relationship like Vincent Morgan has that it's made it on the show that gives Zingbot free reign.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, production it is. You know what? I actually, I get mad about this. What Vince is doing to you guys and lying on your show, like, it's not right. Yeah, it's not right. It's not right. Because you know, it's one thing to lie in the house, but it's another thing to lie to production and, and frankly, he's gotten away with it for too long.

[Asia Welch]

Honestly. No one needs to hug that long.

[Rob Cesternino]

Frankly. Yeah, it's, it's, it's embarrassing that what Vince is doing in the diary room. Do you guys. It's not right.

[Asia Welch]

No. My girlfriend hugged me today and I was like, wait, it's getting a little in the Vince and Morgan territory. It's too long.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Can't keep getting away with this. Yeah. Keanu. So much.

[Taran Armstrong]

Hug me like you mean it.

[Rob Cesternino]

Morgan. Kelly. The thing about could do a Netflix special this weekend.

[Izzy Gleicher]

This is a season of like, not. It's like whether you want, whether you're in a showmance or not, whether you can help it or not, you have to like be rational enough to understand that now your two votes and not one. No matter what happens, like the whole like Let us be. I hate that. It's like, you choose to do this, you know? Like, you have to know that it's gonna affect your game.

[Taran Armstrong]

And so, like, I'm sorry, Izzy, but that just irritates me. Like, we don't even have a final two. Okay, like, why are you even saying that?

[Asia Welch]

Sorry.

[Taran Armstrong]

Sorry again. I messed that up. Why is she even saying that? Because you'd never say that to your face.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I just, like, I hate it so much. And I hate that the other house guests aren't immediately attacking Vince is the problem. Everyone kind of knows it. Everyone's kind of talking about the joke Vinnie the Lip. Like, everyone knows that he's doing it. I don't know why all of them aren't trying to immediately break up Morgan and Vince. I don't understand nothing.

[Asia Welch]

Not a showman.

[Taran Armstrong]

The best thing that ever happened to Vince in the game, aside from the twist taking out Rachel, which obviously devalues the entire season. But the next best thing that ever happened to Vince in the game was Ava calling him Vinnie the Lip. Because now people like Will are like, well, I guess he's persuasive. That's what the nickname means. And even people is mostly people who watch the show only are like, guys, guys. Is he the next doctor Will?

[Asia Welch]

He's so good.

[Taran Armstrong]

Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Okay, we're going to take some questions from the listeners here in just a moment. Let me just thank our presenting sponsor, our friends over at Manta Sleep. Of course, you can save 10% with the promo code code [e-mail]. hey, this is for one person. Of course. Anybody could use a Manta Sleep mask. But, Kelsey, if you're watching, next time that you see on the live feeds, Vince is out by the hammock with Morgan. You're gonna get 100% blackout protection. You're not gonna see any mustache kissing whatsoever. I promise you 100%, or I will give you. I will make sure you get your money back if you see even one hair of mustache kissing Morgan's hand. That's what you get with Manta Sleep. Join the pro nap movement for goodness sake. Already with. For everybody, especially side sleepers. Go to mantasleep.com. use promo code RTP27, get 10% off your mansion, the Sleep purchase. All right, should we take some questions? What do we got? Any questions? Questions for Izzy in particular? Oh, look, Chelsea is here. Izzy, I love you so much.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I love you, Chelsea.

[Taran Armstrong]

There you go, babe.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. All right, man.

[Taran Armstrong]

Not since Chelsea have I seen somebody play the game. Well.

[Izzy Gleicher]

All right.

[Rob Cesternino]

Lori wants to know. Izzy, can we get your thoughts on BB comics?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Anybody?

[Rob Cesternino]

Any of them really catch your eye?

[Izzy Gleicher]

No, I think. I don't like the, like, half of them are, like, name puns, and half of them are just, like, we're doubling down on punishments that don't, like, have anything to do with the personality. Like. Yeah, I like when the comics like, our commentary on, like, the intersection of their, like, outside life and big brother life, you know?

[Rob Cesternino]

Like, I really think they. Or they must order them, like, the day after the premiere. And then if anybody gets a couple costume, they just like, hey, could we get a reorder on the Vince, put him in the egg costume?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I don't know.

[Taran Armstrong]

I mean, this is what we talked about last night. It feels like they make the comics after the first episode, and then if they do costumes, they're. Yeah, they're like, oh, well, we need to. We need to change this one.

[Izzy Gleicher]

It's giving AI, you know, like, it's giving, like.

[Rob Cesternino]

AI, I think would be better, frankly.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Flank would be, like, experimental art or something, you know?

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Okay. All right, how about this? Steph P. Wants to know, will either Lauren or Morgan ever just ask each other if Vince is the number one? How about this? Will we ever get the scene, like, if Lauren and Morgan just go up to Vince at the same time and say, vince, who's your number one?

[Taran Armstrong]

Lauren Wood.

[Asia Welch]

Lauren would never in a million years.

[Rob Cesternino]

Can we get that scene in the movie.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Lauren doesn't even want to think about that.

[Taran Armstrong]

You know, Lauren wouldn't even talk to Morgan about it. Yeah, way too scary.

[Izzy Gleicher]

They're not gonna do that. And also, Vince isn't gonna tell them the truth.

[Taran Armstrong]

I mean, it would be really funny if they both talk to him at the same time.

[Rob Cesternino]

Could another person ask that in front of the three of them?

[Asia Welch]

I would love to see Ashley do that.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Get my lawyer in there. Get my. Call my lawyer.

[Taran Armstrong]

The problem is Lauren would just get mad at the person for being confrontational, but Morgan would love it.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Taran Armstrong]

And Vince would probably say Morgan, and then afterward tell Lauren I had to lie. Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. Andrew wants to know for Izzy, how do you feel about Kelly and her bug hiding and the constant hatred of Rachel? So there's a lot there from Andrew.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Okay, I maybe don't know about the bug hiding.

[Rob Cesternino]

Oh.

[Taran Armstrong]

Oh, boy, did I miss.

[Rob Cesternino]

How about the bug hiding?

[Taran Armstrong]

She's been hiding dead bugs around the house.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Oh, this is her, like, making a dirty plan. Is the bugs.

[Rob Cesternino]

No, but.

[Taran Armstrong]

She'S hid the dead bugs, and she's offered a reward of $1,000 if. If people can find all of the dead bugs.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Like. Like in the house?

[Asia Welch]

Yes. Like, she was sharing a dead bug.

[Izzy Gleicher]

It.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. She finds dead bug in the backyard, and she's like, I'm gonna go put it in the house. And if. And if. And. And I'll tell you what. If you can find any of my dead bugs in the house, I'll give you a thousand dollars.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Doesn't have a thousand dollars.

[Rob Cesternino]

Her dad says she's rich.

[Taran Armstrong]

She's very successful business.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Get out of my house. I hate that.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

And I think Kelly's, like the Bowie Jane of this season, so of course she hates Rachel, you know? So, like.

[Rob Cesternino]

You mean she's a fan favorite.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, exactly. Afp. Kelly for afp.

[Rob Cesternino]

Kelly for afp.

[Taran Armstrong]

How would you say your game improved for the better when the flower girls with Lauren and Ava and I. Wow.

[Asia Welch]

Was she genuinely blindsided tonight?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I wasn't even.

[Taran Armstrong]

She knew.

[Asia Welch]

Okay.

[Taran Armstrong]

Everyone knew.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. By the way, for anybody who follows the podcaster draft, Taran, are you sitting pretty once again with your entire draft team in?

[Taran Armstrong]

Listen, Rob, this is how it goes.

[Rob Cesternino]

Angels have somehow taken over the game.

[Taran Armstrong]

I have three of the final seven. Last year, I had three of the final five. I think it didn't matter like, last year because I didn't have Chelsea.

[Rob Cesternino]

Don't look now, but Taran with his draft team of Ashley, Lauren, and Kelly is right there. Wow.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah.

[Taran Armstrong]

Listen, it's all about draft, average draft place.

[Rob Cesternino]

That's what I look. I'm still. I'm still feeling good. That Keanu is headed to a victory. He said he's going to take every person out of the house else.

[Asia Welch]

He did say that. I mean, speaking of average draft placement, shout out to Shannon Gus, because she was a great host when I went to Sydney.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes.

[Asia Welch]

Until I told her I would shout her out on the first P podcast I was on, which is this one. So.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes. Okay. It's a big.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Waiting for the CERE interview to drop.

[Rob Cesternino]

She posted. She did get. She finally, after all this time, got.

[Taran Armstrong]

An interview with S. I'm so happy for her. Things are. Things are just going so well for Shannon these days.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes. Okay. Everything's turning up. Shannon. Okay. This is from ej, who is in Izzy's ideal final three.

[Taran Armstrong]

Kelly, Ashley, Lauren.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Listen, I want Ashley to be there. I don't want Keanu to be there, and I don't want Vince to be there. That's my answer.

[Taran Armstrong]

We're locked in.

[Asia Welch]

I would. I would love. No one asked me, but I would. Asia, Ashley, Morgan, and maybe. Maybe Ashley, Morgan. Lauren.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. For me, I want good tv. Okay. What do we like? Good tv. Right. Taryn. Final three is Morgan, Lauren, and Vince. And then Vince wins the final hoh. No, Vince.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I agree.

[Asia Welch]

He's gonna throw it.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, I think he'll throw it too. He doesn't. Yeah, he's not gonna do it. Because also, they're so black and white about their. Who they think the jury is gonna vote for. You know, they're so, like, on or off. No nuance in the idea, which Lauren.

[Taran Armstrong]

Took out Will, so now she can't win.

[Asia Welch]

Yeah, Right. No. Yes. Rob, I'm with you on that final three. If and only if Morgan wins part three and she's like, Vince, remember you picked Lauren.

[Rob Cesternino]

Get the step in that maze. But would Vince, the worm let it be with that? Feel so confident that they'll both take him or that we've seen him be so. So paranoid and scared at all times? Would he actually throw in a competition?

[Taran Armstrong]

Rob, the problem with the final three is that the second. It's Vince versus one other person in part three of the final three, hoh. The.

[Rob Cesternino]

The.

[Taran Armstrong]

The person who he's not competing against is dead to him. Whether it's Morgan or. I've. I've never even liked Lauren that much. Morgan, it's you and me.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Always.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Taran Armstrong]

And. And I think he will just take the person that he's competing against.

[Rob Cesternino]

But think about how intense it will be if Morgan is that person who's out in part one and it's Vincent.

[Taran Armstrong]

Lauren, she'll just be upset and they'll. They'll hide and they'll be like, oh, my God.

[Asia Welch]

I think it's weird to talk to her.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Beautiful. Like cinema. If Morgan and Lauren made it to final three without Vince, it should be.

[Rob Cesternino]

Like, will the season pass the Bechtel test best?

[Taran Armstrong]

It should be Vince, Morgan, and Lauren on the block together heading into a Thursday night. And. And Vince has to promise both of them in both scenarios, and neither of them fully trust him. And that's the mess I think we want.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yes.

[Rob Cesternino]

Who.

[Asia Welch]

Who. Which hoh would do that? Keanu.

[Taran Armstrong]

Keanu would do it.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay.

[Asia Welch]

Yeah. Keanu, let's go.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay.

[Taran Armstrong]

Although, actually, he's gonna put up Kelly now because Kelly pissed him off.

[Rob Cesternino]

Chappelle has a question. Know Izzy, would you rather room with Cam or Kelly, like Cam who?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I don't know who that is, so you'll have to give me some context.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, he's from last season.

[Taran Armstrong]

Final three.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Oh, from you think from last season?

[Rob Cesternino]

Chappelle shout? Yeah, shout out to my dogs at the crib.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm hanging with Cam. What are we even talking about here?

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes. Okay, Asia, would you rather a room with Kelly or Rome Home.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Oh, don't do that to her.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay.

[Asia Welch]

1,000%.

[Izzy Gleicher]

You know, I'll take home so that I know destroy him for you, Asia.

[Asia Welch]

Thank you.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay, golden says Asia are. Izzy, are you gonna try to go for the CBS trifecta now?

[Izzy Gleicher]

I mean, I'm. I'm helpless. You know, I'm at the mercy of the call. I'll accept it. You know, Will we ever have a.

[Rob Cesternino]

Big Brother takeover of Survivor?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Honestly, like, I've been saying this, like, there's so many players like, like I applied to Survivor for so many years before then going on big Brother, and I know there's so many Survivor players that ultimately, like, actually wanted to go on Big Brother, ended up a Survivor. I think we should do swap seasons on all of that, you know, Like, I think it would be so interesting to see you survivors try to survive that long in that house, you know, and I am itching for a fast game, you know, look, we're.

[Asia Welch]

We're swapped here. I tried to get on big brother for like 10 years.

[Izzy Gleicher]

So let's do it.

[Rob Cesternino]

Let's go. I. I'll do it standing on my head. Okay. That's my dream. Don't leave the house for three months. Don't go anywhere.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm sick. I loved it.

[Asia Welch]

What are you gonna do with your downtime, Rob? You can't do it.

[Rob Cesternino]

The only thing is I wouldn't, like, I wouldn't want to stay up till 4 o' clock in the morning in the backyard. Hard.

[Taran Armstrong]

I'd be like, going to align with Vince. And you're fine.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, I'd go to bed early like Felicia. That's it. Yeah, it's the only problem.

[Asia Welch]

And will.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, yeah, I'll eat the slop. No problem. No big deal.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, it's fine. I think Bring back the food comps. You want extra comps? Make them fight for food again. I hate that they are have nots, but it's like not a part of the show. Go. Yeah, what's the point? Like, like, what's the point? You know? And you don't care about the live feed, so what's the point of have not also?

[Asia Welch]

It's so inconsequential. But I also don't like the have not room being downstairs.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, I agree. I agree.

[Rob Cesternino]

Why also?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Because. Well, yeah, go ahead, Asia.

[Asia Welch]

It's too communal. Like, it's not have not ish. It feels like, oh, it's just another room. Yeah. Like, put it upstairs. Like, have not to have to journey.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah.

[Taran Armstrong]

99 of the time, you wouldn't have even known who the have not was was. Except for when Vince was a have not.

[Izzy Gleicher]

That's right.

[Taran Armstrong]

I'm malnourished.

[Izzy Gleicher]

After, like, four hours, he was like, oh, malnourished. Just like red, apparently. Passed out eight times in cockle doodle Zoom. Go. Shove it.

[Asia Welch]

Will you feed me?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Come on, give me a drink. You hold the bowl for me, Rachel. I'm so weak.

[Rob Cesternino]

How can I survive?

[Asia Welch]

Yes. That's. That's who we need to see on Survivor.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, exactly. Now you're thinking Asia.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay, then we had a question about. I'm trying to see if I can find it back. But the question was basically actually, if Keanu goes on a run here, is it possible, could he unseat Rachel with the casual audience for afp? Is that possible?

[Taran Armstrong]

I think it's possible regardless what. You know.

[Rob Cesternino]

Look, I'm a Keanu fan, but we can't be having this. Rob.

[Taran Armstrong]

There's a memory hole in place of who won AFP for season 25. In Izzy's mind, I don't think we can underestimate.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah. I don't know who won.

[Taran Armstrong]

Anybody's chance.

[Asia Welch]

They didn't have it. Your season.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Oh, right. That's what happened.

[Asia Welch]

Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. All right. Sarah Cupcakes wants to know, Izzy, do you have any flute performances coming up?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Up a. Yeah, I'm doing. I'm actually doing. It's not alive, but I'm doing a recording session for an exhibit at the Brooklyn Museum this weekend, and I'm so. I'm excited to. When I know dates that. That will be at the Brooklyn Museum. I'll be excited to share that I just joined a wind quintet.

[Rob Cesternino]

Woohoo.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm playing old music for the first time in a really long time.

[Taran Armstrong]

That's where you play music with Quinn from last season.

[Izzy Gleicher]

That's right. Listen, Ben. Ben Katzman, watch out me. And coming for your job is.

[Rob Cesternino]

He's gonna shred with Quinn.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, that's right. But anyway. Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. All right. And then could we put a reverse jinx on who's the worst HOH win tonight?

[Asia Welch]

Vince.

[Taran Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I mean, worse. I mean, I feel like.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. What would Vince's nominations be?

[Taran Armstrong]

He he would. He would stand up there and be like, actually, I'm not gonna forget the way you treated me. Keanu.

[Rob Cesternino]

Ashley. Keanu.

[Asia Welch]

And he has to pick between. Well, he'd do Kelly. He has no issue.

[Rob Cesternino]

Kelly. Okay.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah, that's what I think. It'd be boring. I don't know. Get Ashley up there.

[Taran Armstrong]

It would just.

[Izzy Gleicher]

We're doing worse, right?

[Taran Armstrong]

Like, it depends on how you define boring. But I'm the one that would have to listen to Morgan talk to him until. Until five in the morning every single night about how he needs to put up Lauren.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Right?

[Asia Welch]

Yeah. I just don't want more. It's going to be constant Vorgan interactions.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Okay.

[Taran Armstrong]

I mean, if. If his. If history has anything to teach us, at least in the last few seasons, the three people that won comps this week, Keanu, Lauren, and Morgan, are very likely the three people who will win the rest of the competitions in the season.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Boring. It's like they want it to be all comps, but then it just becomes that, you know, like, right.

[Taran Armstrong]

Like. Like season 25 from final seven, it went season 25. Yeah. It's a weird one. I think they skipped. It went jag, Matt, Jag, Bowie, Jag, jag.

[Asia Welch]

Oh, my.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Is that a tongue twister? Like, right.

[Taran Armstrong]

The last season, season 26, it went MacKenzie, Mackenzie, Chelsea, Chemo, Mackenzie, Mackenzie, Chelsea, Mackenzie, Mackenzie, Mackenzie.

[Izzy Gleicher]

It's like, okay, I've been thinking about this. I'm curious what this squad of people think about this. I think that ideally, my. The perfect season of Big Brother would be every single week someone else winning hoh. Like, I don't want any double, like.

[Asia Welch]

You know, repeat HOHs. Yeah, I like that.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Mathematically, it will happen, but I. It's like, I think the comps are only there to. To shift the pendulum of, like, who's got power? You know? Like, that's what's interesting. It's like, yeah, we get it. You cast an athletic beefcake and then you make them run into ball pits or do athletic maneuvering. Oh, my God, how exciting. They won again. You know, like, that's not exciting, but seeing it shift. And everyone in the house has to also know what it feels like to be hoh. Know what that pressure feels like. Know what it feels to be vulnerable. The next week, I think it would change everyone. I think everyone would engage with the strategy of the game so much more if they couldn't just, like, hide or have the excuse of, boohoo, I won't win a comp.

[Taran Armstrong]

You know, I mean, it is Undeniable that the best Big Brother always comes from a wider variety of HOH winners. The most dynamic weeks, the biggest drama, the biggest, like, always happens because the HOH winners are varied, and when they are the same, things get incredibly boring and stagnant.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Well, and also because, like, when one person's. It's like, I don't know. I feel like there's such a. There's such a difference between. I keep comparing Survivor to Big Brother, but, like, that's also what we do, right? Like, I feel like on Survivor, like, people show up and they want to engage with the game, and people show up to Big Brother and they're almost annoyed that they have to live in this house, they have to play this game, you know? And so then when people win HoHs, they're like, just worried about, oh, I'm gonna upset someone. And it's like, if we all are just, like, on the same page that, like, that's what happens, then, like, we can just take out that bit of personal. It's like, yeah, it's gonna hurt to be on the block, but now I'm gonna go to work or whatever. Like, now we're doing the thing.

[Rob Cesternino]

That's a good point, Izzy. I've never really heard anybody articulate that.

[Taran Armstrong]

That.

[Rob Cesternino]

Asia, did anybody in your season be like. Like. Like, I don't want to have to vote. Like, I don't want to have to do anything I don't want.

[Asia Welch]

Not while I was there, at least.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Izzy Gleicher]

In modern bb. Like, I felt it on my season. I don't remember the number, but I felt that, too, you know? Like, I felt like so much. I was just begging for people to engage, you know, and so. And I felt that in some ways in BB26, and I feel it really heavily in BB27, you know?

[Rob Cesternino]

Know.

[Asia Welch]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, on Big Brother, you hear people, they're like, oh, so. And so. Go to the diary room. They're like, oh, I mean, it's like, it's. It's so exciting to hear. Like, oh, hey, let's, you know.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Skipped to the doctor every time. I couldn't wait. There's. I mean, the backlog of footage that I gave them. Y', all, when they released those tapes, all have a different opinion of that season. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. So that I. I feel that when I watch Survivor and I talk to Survivor alum and just like, I feel so much more connected to the Survivor alumni community than I do the Big Brother one, you know, and so I feel like that vibe is just. Yeah, I want to complete the trifecta because I want to. I want to like there's a passion.

[Asia Welch]

For playing the game. Yeah. Whereas big brothers, like, that's the last thing they want to do.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay.

[Asia Welch]

Just let you know, Riley have his thing with cat.

[Rob Cesternino]

Any. I'll leave it alone. So anything else about Big Brother 27 tonight?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Nope.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. All right, well then let me tell you about what else is going on tomorrow. Taryn and I will be back with you at 2:00pm Eastern to do the BBQ and A of course, the live feed. Taryn return returns to 11am on Friday after no exit interview. Yeah, I believe we can send in one question to the pool for Will if anybody has one. Okay. I talked with Mike Bloom speaking of survivor. We Talked about the third of three Survivor 49 tribes. Check out what I had to talk about with Mike Bloom as we broke down how we think the hina tribe is going to break down as survivor is less than two weeks away. Plus also on Australian Survivor. Izzy, I know you're watching that. I broke down the finale with eight.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I broke down too.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes. And Izzy broke down and I got to talk about it all with Shannon as I reacted to the finale of Survivor AU versus the world. Of course, lots of live shows coming up in the fall. I'll be in New York and San Francisco you can get. There are still a few tickets remaining for NYC go to robinswebsite.com events. Izzy, you're gonna be there with us.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Oh, yeah, me and Paige are gonna be there.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. This weekend check out Stephen Fishback has a brand new edition of Blood on the clock tower. Find out what all of the blood on the clock tower crew was up to. This time, I believe. Believe. 1:00pm Eastern, we're gonna drop a brand new and Asia that looks like it's Sam Fallon is going to be a big part of whatever happens on blood on the clock tower. Wow. Hey, Sam, there you go, the fang.

[Taran Armstrong]

He's tricky to play with, I'll tell you that.

[Asia Welch]

Yeah, he loves him some blood on the clock tower.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. And then check out what everybody's talking about over on chat BCC where the bit the big brother is the hottest thing on Chat BCC. Go to robinswebsite.com VIP chat to check out what all the big brother alumni are talking about over there and then get 10% [e-mail] Kelsey, if you're listening, this is for you. 10% off mantasleep.com, use promo code RHAP27. Asia, what else is going on for you?

[Asia Welch]

You know, not much at the moment. Things will be ramping up. October 1st, love is blind. Season nine comes back. They just crank those seasons out like it's nothing. So I'm sure it'll be exciting. Yeah, I'm sure it'll be exciting. It's the Denver season, so keep a lookout for coverage of that season. But yeah, you can follow me on all social media at Asia. Like, Asia, that's a y s h a like a s I a. Hey.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. Great to have you back on eviction night, Asia. And then, Izzy, what. What energy you brought to the recap tonight?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Oh, thank you, Rob.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. And we can't wait to watch you, I believe two weeks from tonight.

[Izzy Gleicher]

I'm very excited for it. I'm very excited. Yeah, we had a great time. And if you want good big brother, watch the Amazing Race.

[Rob Cesternino]

That's right. We'll be watching.

[Izzy Gleicher]

And they were not ready. They were not ready. The race was not ready for us.

[Rob Cesternino]

They're not ready. Okay.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

I can't wait to see it. I have not been this hyped for an Amazing Race season in a while.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Me too. I never thought.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right, and we'll have all the coverage for you right here on rhap kicking off in two weeks. And then, Taryn, what's next for you?

[Taran Armstrong]

Check out the audiobook behind the mirror. Some say I was bred for it it to make an audio book. That's what I heard Paulie say.

[Rob Cesternino]

Is that what you said?

[Taran Armstrong]

So check it out. Taran Armstrong.com the There are new links there where you can pre order the audiobook and check out the narrated version.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay, let me see. Was.

[Asia Welch]

It's on audible. You guys go check it out.

[Taran Armstrong]

It's on audible. It's on libro. It's on Apple. It's making the rounds.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right, so going through my Paul Califiore clips, I don't know if I have that one. See?

[Izzy Gleicher]

Stay crushing it.

[Rob Cesternino]

That's what he said to you, Taryn.

[Taran Armstrong]

It's true.

[Rob Cesternino]

He also said and I might as well consider you a part of the Califuri family. Okay. That's huge honor for you, Taryn.

[Taran Armstrong]

Why are those top Top billing over bred for this?

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay, There you go. All right. Thank you so much for joining us. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Bye.

[Izzy Gleicher]

Foreign.

[Rob Cesternino]

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