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BB27 Tuesday Live Feed Update September 16, 2025
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Today, Taran Armstrong talks through the live feeds for Big Brother 27!
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If you thought goldenly breaded McDonald's chicken couldn't get more golden, think colder because new sweet and smoky special edition gold sauce is here made for your chicken favorites at participating McDonald's for a limited time every morning. Taryn Armstrong talks big brother. Looking at the stuff from yesterday, all the drama, all the strategy and silliness from veto to hoh every single season, you know he is the reason, you know what's happening. Rob said that he could do it tomorrow. He will do it again. Hello, everyone and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for September 16th. I'm your host Trent Armstrong and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday. The big brother 27 live feeds. It was day 70 in the house. We had a veto ceremony. We had plenty more drama and all kinds of stuff, all kinds of stuff to talk about. That's what I'm here to talk to you about today. And you know, we'll get through it. As you know, Vince is the hoh. He nominated Keanu, Ava and Kelly and he was supposed to nominate Lauren but he didn't and so Morgan got mad and then Morgan won the veto and Morgan wanted to use the veto to make sure that Vince put up Lauren on the renom and it's been going back and forth. Every time he talks to Morgan, he's talked into doing it and then when he talks to Lauren, she talks him out of doing it and then he talks to Morgan and she talks him into doing it and she talks him in until he talks to Lauren and she talks him out of doing it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. And where we left off at the end of the night last night, Morgan had once again convinced himself, convinced Vince to put Lauren up. That was where things stood in the morning. So we woke up the morning of day 70 and Vince goes to talk to Lauren again after having promised her again that he wouldn't do it and says, I think I need to do it again. This time Kelly's in the room as they try to argue him out of it. But they're all pretty low energy because it's early in the morning and it's just not hitting quite the same. Eventually Ava gets involved but then leaves and then Kelly leaves and Lauren talks to Vince one on one. While that's happening, Ava goes and says to Ashley like, wakes Ashley up, like, hey, I think something's happening. They're trying to talk Vince out of using the veto. Ava, of course, now wants the veto to be used because it's being used on her. So she's trying to make sure that Ashley makes sure it gets used. In the meantime, Vince is talking to. To Lauren, and she starts to cry again. I don't think we can come back from this, Vince. No, don't say that. And so on and so forth, but it's not. It's not quite hitting. She keeps saying it doesn't make any sense. He keeps saying, I just need you to be in the. In the blockbuster so that we can take out Keanu. Mor really wants to take out Keanu, and that's why she's pushing for you to go on the block, because we need you to beat Keanu in the blockbuster. Why is he saying Keanu is the target? Because he knows that Lauren knows that Kelly that. Sorry. He knows that Lauren doesn't want Kelly to go. So in order to try to soften the blow a little bit, he's saying that the target is actually Keanu and not Kelly. Why is he doing this? You know why? Because he can't not lie ever if he has the smallest amount, he will only ever tell as small amount of truth as possible if he can help it. And even that, like I said, is a lie. So he's telling Lauren, we just need you to go in the blockbuster to beat Keanu. We'll take Keanu out. And Lauren is like, that doesn't make any sense. But the conversation does not go as well for Lauren as it normally does. She doesn't have enough time to. To flip him back over because he still needs to talk to Morgan. The problem here is that if Morgan uses the veto, Vince is just gonna put Lauren on the block. So Lauren needs to not only convince Vince to shut this plan down again, but this time, instead of him going to the ceremony and just not putting her up, he needs to also convince Morgan to not use the veto. And so this is where things become untenable for Lauren. The veto ceremony is rapidly approaching within the hour, and she needs to not only flip Vince, but have Vince flip Morgan before the ceremony. And that feels impossible. So, you know, now I say all of this with the knowledge, with. With everyone having the knowledge that, you know, she could have talked to Morgan. She could have gone with Vince into a room with Morgan to have a conversation. I don't know at any point, but eventually she leaves, and Vince goes and talks to Morgan, and he tries one more time to get her to not use it. And she says, vince using the veto. So he says, I just. I just need you to not vote her out. Okay? I just need you to promise me you don't. You won't do that to me. You can't do that to me. You can't. You can't burn me because it's. It's deeper than game. You know, it's more with you. She says, I know, I know, Vince. While they're still having their conversation in the hoh room, Keanu has tried to talk because Keanu wants to make a last minute plea to have the veto be used on him. Ava also wants to have a last minute conversation with Morgan to make sure that Morgan's using the veto on her. So they're both standing right outside the door. You can hear in the background while this conversation is happening between Vince and Morgan, Ava and Keanu are arg. It's. It's background noise to the. It's deeper than game is Ava being like, you've already had your minute. Keanu let me go first. And he's like, I just want to talk. And so. So that's happening outside. Eventually, Keanu barges his way in and he's like, listen, I just want to. I just want to say that I think in a perfect world, Lauren's succub magic didn't work on you, Vince, and she's already on the block. But now that she isn't, this is our chance to correct history. You take me off the block, you put Lauren on the block, we send Lauren home. That's what we should be doing. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. And then Ava comes in and she's like, hey, I, Morgan, I want to talk to you, Morgan. And so they go off to the gym and Ava's like, frankly, Morgan, I'm just concerned about what's happening. I'm being told that the veto is being used on me one night, and then an hour later, the veto is not being used anymore. And frankly, I just don't understand what's happening. But that's just my opinion. I don't. It's. I. I understand, Morgan, that you're being put in a difficult position. And frankly, I don't think that's fair. I think that you should be able to use the veto if you want to use the veto as long as it's on me. And Morgan is like, I completely agree, Ava. I am being put in a difficult position. And in the meantime, Keanu is talking to. To Vince about how, you know, it's. We gotta get Lauren out, bro. Come on. This is our. You gotta make sure. You gotta make sure that she goes, and. And. And. And then, you know, then Kelly comes in again, and then Morgan, because Kelly's just got. It just interrupted the Morgan and Ava conversation in the gym. And so then she goes into the hoh room, and she's like, oh, they're talking in the gym. And they're like, yeah, okay. And so now Keanu and Kelly are both in the hoh room, and Morgan finishes her conversation with Ava, and so she comes to come into the hoh room, and she cracks open the door, and she sees Vince, and he sees her, and they go. And they approach each other almost as if they're coming in for a kiss. And then she looks over and sees Keanu and Kelly. Oh, hi. And he goes, oh, yeah, I was gonna. Yeah. And I'm telling you, you need to watch the video of this. You need to. You need to find it wherever it is. Twitter, Blue Sky, YouTube. I don't understand where your social media places are. You need to find the clip of this. It's absolutely the most absurd thing I've seen in my entire life. And. And so they kick them out, and they have one more conversation, and the feeds go down for the veto ceremony. It's time to. To see if he actually finally does it. And of course he does. Morgan uses the veto on Ava. Lauren is Ava's replacement. Vince has nominated Lauren. We've talked plenty about this already on the roundtable. We've talked plenty about it on the updates. I don't think we need to continue to get into how awful a move this is. But, yes, Vinnie has, in fact, now nominated Lauren, and she's not pleased. Now, before this happened, she was downstairs talking to Ava again, saying she's gonna have to keep pretending she's good with Vince, but she's going to repay this favor. Will she actually do that? Is a question on people's minds, but she is not pleased about the situation. You know, so with Lauren on the block, we can now start to cement things a little bit in terms of where the votes fall. Now, remember what I talked to you about just a moment before, that hectic chaos segment. Vince has been telling Lauren that the only reason she needs to go on the block. Well, one of the. One of the main reasons she needs to go on the block is. Is that she needs to compete against Keanu in the blockbuster so that they can send Keanu home because Keanu is the target. So with that in mind, after being nominated, Lauren is talking to Vince in the HOH room. She's venting to him a Little bit. But is ultimately still acting fine. Whether she actually is fine or not is another question. She certainly implies that she's not later on, but it's Lauren, so who actually knows? But what she's saying is, Vince, this can be made right. As long as Keanu goes home. As long as Keanu goes home, everything's going to be fine. If Keanu doesn't go home, we may have a problem. And he's just like, do we have a problem? You said you weren't gonna work with me. She's like, no, I just. I was just saying that because apparently it worked for Morgan. Of course I'm still gonna work with you. Oh, okay. And so that's what she's saying now worth remembering. She needs his vote desperately. She not only needs his vote this week, but she also needs him to make sure she has, like, Morgan and Ashley's votes this week. That is the way that she is seeing it. Seeing it. At the very least, as long as he wants to keep her, she should stay this week. If he gets any sense that it's not worth keeping her anymore, then she leaves. And so this is obviously what she should be doing. It's just a matter of how honest is she being. And given her track record, there's not a lot of faith in her being dishonest, but that's to be determined at this point. So on top of her own, you know, her own safety, she has another goal in playing nice with. With Vince, which is she wants to make sure that Keanu is the target, that as long as Keanu doesn't win the blockbuster, Keanu goes home. That's what Vince is telling her is the case to begin with. And so she's talking through various options of how to potentially get Keanu out of the game. Apparently, she, Keanu, is already talking about maybe throwing the blockbuster, because that's what people do in this house, specifically Kelly and Keanu people. He's been saying to Kelly that he's willing to throw the blockbuster to her so that she can win and be safe, and then he'll stay because he has the votes, and the whole plan is to take out Lauren anyway. So. So she says, well, if that's the case, then let's all coordinate because Morgan wants Keanu out too. Let's talk to Morgan. Let's all work together. We'll all convince Keanu that he has the votes and will make sure he throws the blockbuster. 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Start prioritizing their financial education and future today with a risk free trial at greenlight.com Spotify greenlight.com Spotify Morgan has made it clear from the beginning Kelly has made or Vince himself has made it relatively clear, you know, since he gave up on targeting Ava that, that Kelly is the target, has been the target. Keanu is not the target. Vince is just lying, Just, just lying for no particular reason because it's Vince and it's what he does and he can't help himself. And so in the middle of all of this, he is telling in the hopes, yeah, yeah, we'll definitely do that to Lauren when he knows that's not what's happening. And at some point it, she's probably going to find out because in the event that Lauren wins the blockbuster and it's Kelly versus Keanu on the block, theoretically it's Ava and Lauren voting to evict Keanu and Morgan and Ashley voting to evict Kelly and Vince breaking the tie. The tie he's already promised Morgan, Morgan and wants himself to use to evict Kelly. But he's saying he will evict Keanu. He's saying that it won't even be a tie because Morgan and Ashley will vote out Keanu, which is again just not true. And so she's coming up with all of these plans about how they're going to include Morgan and Ashley on the plan because they all agree that they want Keanu. That's what Vince is telling her. And this is again for Lauren, the dangers of relying entirely on one person in the game. For all of your information about other people, super fan, why talk to them yourself? Morgan would have been very free with the information of who she's actually targeting because she doesn't care at this point, you know, and, and we're gonna find that out very soon because in the middle of Vince unnecessarily lying to Lauren about the situation, Morgan walks in. Oh, hi guys. How are you guys do. Oh, Lauren, how are you feeling? How are you feeling? Lauren, are you okay? As. As Morgan does a victory lap. Are you okay? Lauren? How are you feeling? Oh, you know, I'm okay. Yeah, I know, it must suck. Yeah. So anyway, guys, listen. This week is going to be okay. You know, we've got a plan. It's all worked out. We're evicting Kelly and you can just see the panic on Vince. Like they're not supposed to talk to each other. No. Why? Why is this happening? I was just telling her the opposite. So obviously we're evicting Kelly because she's coming after my guy Vince, and I can't have that. You know, I can't have that. And Lauren's like, oh, huh. Yeah. And Vince is like, yeah, yeah. I. I didn't even know she was coming after me that much, but yeah. And Morgan's like, yeah, so it should be easy. We evict Kelly. And honestly, Lauren, you can. Even. You and Ava can vote to keep her, and it'll come down to a tie that might be even better. And then that way Vince can break the tie and evict Kelly like we've planned, and. And it'll all be fine. And that's. That's how things go. And Vince is like, yeah, so are you okay with that, Lauren? Are you okay with us evicting Kelly? And Lauren's like, yeah, yeah, I guess so. Like, okay. Morgan's like, perfect. This is great. And so. And at which point Vince goes, oh, I'm so. I'm so. You know, this is my ideal final three guys. Just you two. You two and me. And they're like, haha. Funny, funny. Morgan, of course, questions Lauren about how she was on the block and how she was the target. And Lauren's like, you weren't the target. I wanted to use the veto. Yeah, you wanted to use the veto to get me or Keanu on the block. And if Keanu won the blockbuster, I would have gone home. Lauren's like, morgan eventually leaves, and as soon as she does, Lauren stands up on the, like, little daybed thing. Okay, so apparently we can't include Morgan on the plan to evict Keanu. We can't tell Morgan that Keanu might throw the blockbuster. But this is perfect, Vinnie, because she wants it to be a tie that you break. And you're breaking the tie to evict Keanu. Right, Vinnie? And he says, yes, of course, yes. I. I want him gone. Yeah. And you know what? I'm so mad at Morgan for what she did to my hoh. I'm still so mad at her. You know, the way that she pressured me was not okay. And you know, that'll be my way of taking back my hoh. To break the tie. To break the tie and evict Keanu, even though that's not what she wants. That'll. That'll show her. Lauren's like, yes, okay. And that. That will be what makes things right between us, Vince, if you do that, things will be right between us. If you don't do that, I'm gonna have a problem it's like, no, of course I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. She also goes on to say, and I'm sorry, Vince, but she needs to go. Morgan needs to go next. It's like, no, I. I know. I know. After what she did to me this week. Yeah, so it's that that whole scene is just the perfect encapsulation of Vince's game. Just, like, constantly putting himself. Like, why do you constantly put yourself in these positions where you're going to piss somebody off? And then I know he's gonna whine about it later. So what. What, is he actually going to eviction? Who knows at this point? Who knows? I'm sure it'll go back and forth a million times. So Morgan talks to the cameras after this whole interaction, and she's like, well, step one complete. Got Lauren on the block, very happy. But Vince messed up. Vince messed up there. Final three with me and Lauren, my boy. That is not happening. I don't think so. And she goes on to talk a little bit more, and then she talks to him about it. Like, that was really like, I can't believe you suggested final three with us in the room together. It's like, oh, I'm sorry. In the meantime, Lauren goes downstairs and she talks to Kelly about how she is feeling really angry and upset. She wants to be really angry and upset, but she can't if she wants to survive the week. And Kelly's like, you can feel upset. She's like, I can't. I don't. I can't. I will leave. And Kelly's like, you'll stay. You'll stay over me? Well, all of this is happening. Ashley's talking a lot with Ava throughout the day, talking a lot about Vince, how he's a weasel. Ashley says, you know what? Lauren brought this on herself. She. You know what? You know what I'm saying? You know, he really. She really brought this on himself, on herself. She know. She knew who Vinnie was last week during her hoh. You know what I'm saying? And she didn't decide to do anything about it. You know what I mean? And Ashley is also talking to Ava throughout the day about how Kelly is the target and how Kelly's leaving and Ava doesn't seem to mind all that much. Ava is kind of like, you know, Lauren, Kelly, she's kind of crazy. She's kind of cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. So frankly, if she leaves, she leaves. It is what it is. And so she's not really offering much resistance when she does talk to Lauren about it. She says similar things, but Lauren's like, yeah, but she can't leave. She's a number for us. She's a shield for us. And Ava's like, yeah, that's true. So Ava holds not much of an opinion on the matter, it seems would certainly, I think, be willing to be a vote to keep Kelly, but is also perfectly happy to not vote out Kelly and maybe the escape that Vince would need if, if, if they can flip Ava's vote. And it doesn't even come down to a tie, but Morgan wants it come to come down to a tie. So all kinds of stuff happening there. Ava and Ashley again continuing to talk a lot throughout the day. Also, Ava is encouraging Ashley to get on good terms with. With Lauren. Ava's like, this is just my opinion, but to be frank, I think that you should at the very least get on good terms with Lauren, try to stay off her block next week. Because Lauren, at this point, it seems like the consensus around the house is that she's very likely going to nominate Morgan and Vince next week. And so Ashley having conversations with Lauren, it can only be a good thing, at least from Ava's perspective, to help him help prevent her from being on the block, especially if Kelly leaves. Ashley is saying, if Kelly leaves, you become Lauren's number two for sure. Ava and Ava's like, yeah, and then you may. Might have space to come in as well. And then hopefully Lauren nominates the combination of Morgan, Vince and Keanu and doesn't touch you. Ashley. Ashley's feeling pretty good about that. Lauren does plan to talk to Ashley. She also plans to talk to Morgan. And I doubt she's going to do either one of those. But. But Ashley talks to the cameras saying, I think I'm the best positioned person in this house. I think the lowering of the threat level has worked. I think that I'm playing. I think I might be playing the best game in here. So many people think I'm their closest ally. Like, this is going well for me. So Ashley's feeling pretty good. And she says, can you believe Lauren is on the block on Vinny's hoh? You can't make this stuff up. So that's what they are up to. Ava does talk more with Lauren as well, saying that, you know, frankly, Lauren, this isn't Morgan's fault. This is Vinnie's fault. You know, I'm just tired of pretending that Vince doesn't just lie all the time. And Lauren's like, I know, I know. And Ashley also Starts feeling Morgan out on the idea of evicting Lauren. Sort of like. Like, hey, you know, exploring the options. But at this point, at least, Morgan is unwilling to budge on this, that she cannot do that to Vince. So if Ashley wants to make this happen, I think the way into it is to convince Morgan that Lauren has actually become a detriment to Vince's game, that she's actually coming for Vince now. And therefore, Morgan needs to take out Lauren for Vince's own good. And don't worry, Vince himself is gonna help with that later on in the night. So we'll see if Ashley's gonna be able to find an in there. So that's where. That's where all of that stands. But of course, there's some more drama in the night. Lauren talks to Vince a couple more times, but in particular, has a conversation with him in the win. And of course, first of all, Vince is doing some wild stuff before she comes in. It just. It's weird. But then she finally comes in, and he starts talking to her. Are you mad at me? Do you hate me? Am I the worst? Uh, you're mad at me. I'm the worst. I know. Oh, you're gonna put me up? Are you gonna. You're not gonna put me up or you're gonna put me up? Did I ruin my game? Did I. Did Morgan ruin my game? Said yes. Yes to. Morgan ruined your game? Yes. But, you know, not the other stuff. Oh, I. I know. I know. He. I know. She ruined my game. I can't believe she did that to me. I'm not gonna forget that ever. And she. He's like, you know, you just. You just. You know, you can't put me up next to her, though, right? You know, you can't do that. I'll go home. I'll go home. They'll vote me out. They'll all. Ashley and Ava and. And. And. And Kelly will vote me out. So you can't put me up next to her, okay? You can't put me up next to her and Ashley. I was like. I mean, I just. I mean, it would look really bad if I didn't put you up after this. What? Who cares? Why. Who cares what people think? Why does it even matter? That's what I'm learning this week, is that I shouldn't even care what people think about the moves I make. Like, outside perception doesn't matter. She says, listen, all that matters this week, Vinnie, is that we make sure Keanu leaves. It's like, yes, of course. And then I'M sorry to say this, but Morgan needs to go next. Yes. No, I agree. I think she. She needs to go. And Lauren starts talking to him about how, like, Morgan needs to go next because the sooner they take out Morgan, the sooner she'll cool down in the jury house and, and, and forgive him for betraying her. He's like, yeah, yeah. And so. And then, of course, like, later, Vince is talking to Keanu and pretending he's about to vote out Lauren because again, he just constantly lies for no reason. And, and he uses that same logic to, to Kiani's like, like, like, yeah. And then, and then if we take out Lauren now, you know, then, then she'll have more time to cool off in the jury house. And, and Keanu loves this. He's like, yo, that's such a good idea. So, so they have this conversation and all, of course, all that Vince really hears from it is Lauren saying that she might need to put him on the block. And he's desperate to get, you know, I'll go home. They'll send me home. Lauren, you can't do that. And she's like, okay. They've gotten alcohol and things get kind of weird late into the night. There's conversations with Vince and Morgan. You know, he's like, like, they keep going back and forth. Morgan spends a bunch of time in the diary room and I guess is maybe a little tipsy, I'm not sure. But Morgan seems to be having, like, post success clarity, if that makes sense. She was so desperate to get Lauren on the block so that. To, like, prove that Vince would choose her over Lauren, that now that she's succeeded, she's kind of like, what have I done? Like, she was riding high. She was like, yes, Lauren's on the block. She, you know, Vince chose me. Lauren didn't win. Wait, though, now that I know he would have chosen me, he didn't have to, oh, did I just mess up his game? I don't know what she was talking about in the diary room, but it's clear that she's been, like, talking things through to herself and is kind of coming to the realization. And I think, I think you. I think this is a thing that people can. Can understand, right? Like, whether you've experienced it yourself or you've seen somebody else experience it. Like, sometimes a person will just, like, push for something desperately, and then the second they actually get it, it. It's the fact that they are able to get it that makes them not actually want it as much anymore because it was the fact that they couldn't get it that made them want it so much. It was the fact that Vince kept pushing back and kept showing that he was going to choose Lauren that made her really, really want Lauren on the block to prove to herself and to him that she was more important. But then the second he actually made the choice, she doesn't need the proof anymore. And now she has to deal with the fallout of the decision, of having. Of her having forced him to make the choice, like it was necessary for him to prove his allegiance to her. But now that he has, it's kind of now her bad for making him do it in her mind, right? So she comes to this conclusion, and she starts talking to Vince about it. She's like. She's starting to feel bad about this whole situation. And of. And this is. Is hilarious to me, the first bit of this, because every time Morgan. Because this. This is. This is the two of them, right? Every time Morgan gives him an inch, he tries to take a mile. And so the second she comes even close to being like, yeah, I'm. I'm feeling like, did we need to do this? He's like, that's what I've been saying, Morgan. You ruined my game. You did this to me, like, trying to dig in the dagger and make her feel even worse. But he. Every time he does that, she starts to not feel bad anymore. And she's like, whoa. I mean, it was kind of necessary, though, if you think about it. No, it wasn't. I mean, okay, maybe. And then as soon as he backs off, she starts feeling bad again. And so she's. He's like, okay, I mean, fine. You know, Lauren. Lauren told me, though, that she. Now she needs to put me on the block. Now she's gonna put me on the block. And Morgan's like, why would she do? And that makes Morgan mad. And. And. And then. And it's. Again, every time he tries to make her feel more guilty, she starts feeling less guilty. And then as he starts backing off, she starts feeling guilty again. And you can tell, I think, a big part of this, she's talking a lot about, like, america's gonna hate me now. And there's a lot that you can't even say is unsaid between them. Obviously, earlier in the day, talking about, like, you know, you know, it's more than game, you know, how much, like, you know what this is. And her saying, I know, and I'm gonna tell you something in October and, you know, sleeping in bed together, you know, like. Like, there's a lot that. That I would say is being unsaid, but it's being said it. They're just straight up saying it at the. For the most part. And so in all of this, the. The thing that really is going unsaid is the. Is the girlfriend of it all. And, you know, they've talked a little bit about, like, oh, I'm gonna be called a cheater, but. But they've maintained this sort of facade of like, everything we're doing is totally on, you know, above board. But I have to imagine that her time in the diary and perhaps the questions they were asking, perhaps just like the. As I said, like the. The post success, clarity, all of that coming together, she's now very, all of a sudden very concerned about how America is going to see her. That, like, oh, my God, America's gonna hate me now. They're gonna think I'm just like, you know, so such a bad person. I'm just. She. And she's, like, really torn up about this. She's really concerned about this. She's having, like, a real serious human moment about, like, I. They're really. I'm just so worried, Vince, about how people are gonna see me and. And. And how what America is going to think of me. And so Vince finally has, like, a real human moment, seeing her in distress, and says, no, they're gonna hate me. They're gonna hate me, Morgan. They're gonna hate me more. So she starts breaking down like, oh, my God. I really. I really didn't think that Lauren would do this to you. You know, I really didn't think that she would actually come for you. I've completely ruined your game. America's gonna hate me. Oh, my God. And he's like, yeah. And she also said that she couldn't believe that I would do this and that I was her number one. And, you know, like, she said that it's. It's really mean of me to have done this. And again, like, he trying to dig in the knife. He's like, vince, you're not making me feel any better. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to. And she starts feeling guilty again. Oh, I just. Oh, I can't believe I. Why did I use the veto? I shouldn't have done that. I should have just let it go. Oh, my God. You know, we had so many conversations about it. Yeah. And your mind was made up the whole time. It was made up the whole time. No, it wasn't. Vince. Yeah. Okay. Okay. But now. Oh, my God, I'm gonna be. They're gonna, like, see me as a villain. I'm gonna be such a villain to the, To America. Oh, my God. I'm so. Oh, my God. They're gonna see me as a villain. No, they're gonna see me as a villain. I'm gonna be the villain. Morgan, this is, this is just. This is the first time I've been selfish. This has been the first time I've been selfish, which is really weird for me because I haven't been that way at all before. You might say that I've never been selfish in my life. This is the first time I've been selfish in my entire life. You should have just sent me home. You should just send me home, Vince. No, don't say that. Can I just say I've never, in my real life, I've never spoken to a person that has said I need to be selfish for the first time in my life. I've never heard somebody say those words. It has to be one of the most common refrains of players in the game on Big Brother. They're constantly saying it, like, free if it's been freaking, like, six, seven years since Jackson. Mickey said it every two seconds. And he wasn't the first. I, I, it's just, you know. Anyway, this actually just starts getting sad because Morgan's, like, having an actual breakdown here. She just starts uncontrollably sobbing, and, you know, Vince just stares at her very weirdly occasionally trying to make her feel worse. And it's, I mean, certainly sleep. I mean, they are incredibly sleep deprived. Maybe a little bit of alcohol. You know, it's, it's all, it's all over the place here. But, uh, she is, like, unconsoleable, inconsolable. But he's, but, but that implies that he's trying to console her and he's not. He's trying to do the opposite. So this is sort of how the night ends. She's just, like, immensely regretting this now. She does say at one point, like, if she hears Lauren saying anything bad about Vince, because Vince, remember, Vince now has told her that Lauren is saying she needs to put him up. And I think if she, the more she thinks about that and the more she starts hearing that that might be true, the more leverage somebody like Ashley in particular has to really put a wedge there and try to get Lauren evicted, because she says if she hears Lauren say anything else about Vince, she'll need to leave. She'll need to be voted out. I know I said I wouldn't, Vince, but if she says she's coming for you, I need her gone. So Vince, of course, tries to backtrack it again. What? No, that's not what I was saying. I, I, I think she is forgiving me. So this is a, an unnecessary balance beam to walk for somebody like Vince who shouldn't have told her in the first place. He just wanted the brownie points of being like, I was right. You should feel bad. But now he has to contend with the fact that he's told her that Lauren is coming for both of them. And, and you know, that means, of course, that in the event that Keanu wins the blockbuster and Morgan and Ashley and Keanu want to evict Lauren, or at the very least, she's going to start pressing him to evict Lauren. She has this moment of weakness last night. Who knows how she's feeling in the morning, especially once she thinks more about that, that notion of Lauren coming for Vinnie. So there, that's, that's where we are. Lauren needs to be more careful about what she's telling Vince. You know, Lauren, I know Vince can't do anything but lie, but lying is okay. You don't have to be Vince about it. You can just not tell Vince you're putting him on the block when you know that he's a necessary person to keep on your side. You know, it's, it's, you know, you know that, that you can just keep pretending it's, it's okay. But, but she's, you know, she's still, she's just still Lauren. She's just still Lauren. And it's, it's annoying because I gen. I would love it if Lauren actually started playing the game. She has all the tools. You know what I mean? I, I say that she doesn't have all the tools, but she has most of the tools. Did the pillow barrier finally come down? Yeah, yeah, it did. The shirt barrier ended the night before. The pillow barrier is now gone. They are full on, full on spooning, which is funny because they literally, after the Zingbot thing, were like, it's not like we're spooning. So, you know. Anyway, what was Vinnie doing in the room? Just like, was just, just looked really fun. He, like, had his hat on his mouth like this and was just, like, shaking. It was just funny. Like, it was just funny. Anyway, let's see. Any questions before we wrap up? Is Ava coming for Ashley? I don't think so. She's still not like the biggest fan in the world of Ashley, but I do think she wants to work with Ashley and specifically Ashley and Lauren. What is the best outcome this week for Ashley? See, here's the thing. Ashley, in my opinion, the best outcome for Ashley is actually Keanu leaving. I just don't trust that he would actually bring her to the end and not want to bro down. And if Kelly stays and she's able to get in with. With Ava and to some degree, Lauren, you know, I think there's. No. No, that's. That doesn't work. Because the problem is if Keanu leaves, then Lauren and Kelly don't even have a third option for a nomination. So she might be on the block. Yeah, that's. That's too dangerous for her. Yeah, I think she's right to probably want Kelly. I mean, obviously her best thing is Lauren gone, but Kelly leaving is probably a close second. Keanu leaving isn't the worst for her either, though. Let's see. Keanu's. Yeah, Keanu said that lawyers like to say things like, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Which is funny because that's what Ashley says all the time. Not that I think that's like a real stereotype, but what do I think the blockbuster would be? I think it has to be the. The Tucker puzzle that he lost. Right. That's, like, the only one I don't think we've seen. Is there any talk about a double in the house? They were talking about a double at the beginning of the week, but Lauren is convinced it will be an elimination and like, like another elimination thing and not an actual week. And they're all still talking about how they think there's going to be three noms. Is Ashley in the best spot? Ashley and Ava are the two best positioned players in the house right now. Their biggest problem is just winning jury votes and winning comms. Comps. You can be best positioned, but if you're not winning comps, then that can run out. Best case for Ashley in the double would probably like if Lauren left and let's say like Lauren and maybe Keanu, Vinnie, or Morgan left after that one. Like any one of those three. Morgan staying is probably better. Yeah. You know what? Morgan should stay. For her. It would be if Lauren leaves in the first eviction and then. Then I. Then maybe if Vinnie leaves. Yeah, Actually, if Lauren leaves in the first eviction and Vinnie leaves in the double in the second eviction, Ashley's crushing because now Keanu is locked in with her. Morgan's locked in with her and they're both huge targets for Ashley and Kelly. Yeah, she needs to get rid of Morgan before final two, but. But I think keeping her around there is fine and then she can hope she can beat Keanu in a final two if she needs to. But she'd also. I'll obviously ideally take him out. Kelly staying is good for her because it leaves the option of bringing Kelly to the final two, which would be a guaranteed win. So I think that would be her ideal scenario. I don't know if it's super likely though. Who are Ashley's two nominations if she wins hoh? Well, right now, if Kelly leaves, I think her two nominations would likely be Lauren. And that's a good question. Either Keanu or Vince. Maybe Vince. Although Morgan would be very mad. But if it was just as a pawn to take Lauren out, maybe, I don't know, she might do Vince because the problem is if you don't nominate Vince, he uses the veto on Lauren and she can say that. So what do I think was the best choice for Vince? It's such a trap that question. I appreciate the question, but it's a trap because of the way Vince plays the game game. He intentionally puts himself into positions where there's no good choice and then goes why is there never any good choice? So he. It was a lose lose because of the way he set himself up and that's how he always plays the game. So the best choice was to just win hoh and immediately say this is my plan. This is what I'm doing and then stick to it. Do we think Keanu would still work with Vince? I think Keanu sees Vince as somebody that he can beat. In the end, he has bigger targets like Lauren and Morgan. If Kelly leaves this week, he still has bigger targets like Morgan and Lauren. And I think that at this point Keanu would probably be very happy with the final three of himself, Vince and Ashley and then who he actually takes to the final two. There is a question that I don't think we want answered. What about the rule? You can't tell them in advance. They will go up. It's not a real rule. It ha you always. You people tell them all the time. Let's see. Any other questions? What's Morgan's best play moving forward? Board. It's to take out Lauren. Just straight up. She needs to take out Lauren. Lauren is coming for her hard and wants to evict her as much as early as next week. Wants to put Vince on the block next to her potentially and Lauren is very good at competitions, so Morgan should 1000%, especially now that she's put in all the work to, to get Lauren on the block. She should then evict Lauren. That's just straight up what she should do. And Vince will cry about it, but that'll be it. Like he's not gonna do anything else. Literally nobody else will be mad. Only people that were already planning to target her. It's a no brainer. What are the chances of any getting evicted in the double eviction? There are bigger targets, bigger fish to fry. Morgan, Lauren, Keanu, if all three of them in the game, they are all bigger targets. But that does not mean that he can't leave. There are certainly plenty of scenarios where he does. I would say he's like, those three are the three more most likely people to leave, depending on who leaves in the first eviction. But I would say Vince is like the fourth most likely to leave. Ava and Ashley are pretty safe if and then just exchange Keanu and Kelly. They're roughly in a similar position in terms of, of danger. All right, I think that's, I think that's about what we've got for the update today. Hopefully you enjoyed. You know, it's this, this stuff with Vince and, and Morgan is starting to like when it doesn't have an immediate game relevance, it's, it starts to get really hard to, to, to sit through. So we'll see what the rest of the week brings us. Of course we have the vote coming up. Will Morgan start to flip in the direction of trying to convince Vince to take out Lauren? I don't think Vince will budge on the vote situation. So if he doesn't budge, will she do it anyway? It just depends. Will they try to convince him that Lauren is coming after him? There are like, listen, for as much as we've talked about Ashley being the best player in the house left, like the real chops for somebody like Ashley would be to figure out a way to tank Lauren this week, make something up, plant some seeds with Morgan, you know, something to, to, to spark Vince's paranoia that Lauren's coming for him and to get Morgan on board to fully move in that direction. I do just think that Lauren leaving is just a lot better for Ashley than Kelly leaving, but it's not that much better. So I don't think it's a huge failure if it doesn't happen. But like, if she were to pull something like that off, that would actually be like the only actual good play in the entire season outside of I guess her surviving the block in the first place and you know, Rachel's move, I mean Morgan getting Lauren on the block was good but only she follows through, you know what I mean? So anyway, that's what I've got for you, of course. Make sure you tune in tomorrow morning, 11am Eastern. I will update you on everything that happens today on the Big Brother 27 live feeds and you can find me streaming on YouTube, Twitch and Patreon if you want to to hang along, watch along with me. The Patreon streams. I am, they are, they are full, full service streams with you can watch with me fully if you head over to Patreon. 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