BB27 Wednesday Special Eviction Recap, Week 11

Summary

RHAP: We Know Big Brother – BB27 Wednesday Special Eviction Recap, Week 11

Date: September 25, 2025
Hosts: Rob Cesternino, Chappelle, and Jenny Autumn

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Episode Overview

This episode of RHAP’s Big Brother coverage dives deep into the surprising special eviction of Keanu in Week 11 of BB27. As the season careens towards the finale, Rob, Chappelle, and Jenny dissect Keanu’s run, the ongoing drama between Vince and Morgan, endgame scenarios, and the evolving “Mastermind” twist. The cast debates the entertainment and legacy value of both the season’s big personalities and the season’s often controversial format twists, with their trademark humor, candor, and lively audience banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Opening Vibes: Reality TV Overload (02:22–05:18)

• The hosts set the late-night, jam-packed energy, juggling Survivor, Big Brother, and Amazing Race recaps.
• Rob jokes about the exhausting but exhilarating crush of reality TV content:
  Rob: “Might be too much reality tv. I think I might be sick.” (04:40)

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Keanu’s Eviction & Legacy – The Keanu Debate (06:21–15:20)

• Keanu is evicted at final four. The panel reflects on his “bad but entertaining” gameplay.
• Circle of Praise: Jenny proposes everyone say something nice about Keanu (06:50).
  • Chappelle: “He won some challenges.” (06:56)
  • Rob: “He was a bad player. He was bad at the game. But... were you not entertained?” (06:59)
• Chappelle: Lays out a love-hate relationship:
  “Like once a week. I was entertained... But I was annoyed a lot more than entertained.” (07:07)
• Discussion on whether twists kept weak players like Keanu and Kelly too long at the expense of stronger, more strategic houseguests (07:49).
• The Top 10 Character Debate:
  • Rob: “Is Keanu a top 10 big brother character of the 20s?” (08:44)
  • Chappelle: “No.” (08:58)
• Chappelle and Jenny compare Keanu to past iconic and less iconic houseguests and alliances.
• Jenny: “He stayed consistent in just being wrong and having faith in things.” (09:15)
• Rob: “If you were making up a two-dimensional person to put into the Big Brother house, Keanu was incredible drama.” (11:42)
• Panel ponders if Keanu might be cast again, à la returning players (16:56).

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The Vince & Morgan Showmance – Boundaries, Perception, and Unraveling (34:34–44:21)

• The panel analyzes the evolving dynamic between Vince and Morgan:
  • Vince’s visible concern after not receiving a video from girlfriend Kelsey while other houseguests get messages from significant others and family (37:05).
  • Morgan and Ashley's discussion about their close (platonic?) bed-sharing arrangement (38:47).
• Vince's spiral: Realizes he may have crossed boundaries or even been dumped (“Am I single right now?” – 40:55).
• Panel examines the moral and edit repercussions of Vince’s behavior, relationship ambiguity, and subsequent attempts to justify or “lean into” the situation.
  • Jenny: “He now convinces himself I have been dumped. So now I can lean fully into this thing.” (41:10)
• Chappelle jokes as Vince’s defense lawyer, advising: “Just gotta go all in on the lie at this point... Lie until the wheels fall off.” (44:42)

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Mastermind Mystery & Thematic Whiplash (27:16–32:34)

• The hosts mock the show's inconsistent theme:
  Chappelle: “We forgot what the theme of was of the season was. What happened to Hotel Mysterious?... Now you have someone with a pentagram downstairs sacrificing people with voodoo dolls. Where did that come from?” (27:16)
• Wild speculation on who the “Mastermind” behind the season’s twists could be: previous BB notables or even an intern? (30:04)

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Family Videos & Top “Big Brother Families” (35:30–37:04)

• Hosts celebrate the entertaining family videos, especially Keanu’s, calling his family a “top 10 family of the 20s for sure” (35:49).
• The hosts enjoy the fun composition and jokes from Keanu’s relatives, highlighting how outside personalities add to the season’s flavor.

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Strategic Endgame: Scenarios & Spoilers (62:45–78:07)

[Live Feed Spoilers begin at 62:45]

• Morgan Wins Final 4 HOH & Veto:
  • Morgan continues an epic comp streak (“All she does is win!” – 63:59).
  • Nominations: Ava and Ashley go up, Vince is safe.
  • Morgan also wins the Veto; speculation swirls if she’ll take Vince to final two or consider cutting him based on Ashley’s persuasive campaigning and game paranoia.
• Ashley’s Campaign:
  • Ashley tries to sow doubt between Vince and Morgan, hoping Morgan might see Vince as too big a threat or too untrustworthy (67:35).
• Jury Management & The Hunt for Winning Moves:
  • Panel discusses faint hopes for Ashley if she makes the final two; skepticism on her comp prowess.
  • Debate whether Vince could ever win—panel consensus: his chances are slim due to strategic missteps and comp dominance by Morgan.
  • Chappelle: “There's only so much you can do when the person you should be targeting won’t stop winning.” (75:33)

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Fun Segments & Memorable Moments

Tupperware vs. Tubberware (54:18–56:49)

• A hilarious interlude about mispronouncing “Tupperware.”
• Vince (paraphrased): Shocked that people were saying “Tupperware” instead.
• Panel agrees, at this point, the editors are left with little content, resulting in silly segments.

Tiny Veto Challenge (56:49–60:52)

• Panel recaps the mini-challenge, admitting most would struggle due to lack of dexterity or patience; Jenny relates to Ava’s odd ways of using utensils.

Voodoo Ceremony & Crime Lab (61:07–62:45)

• Discussion of the theatrical eviction and “demonic ceremony." Chappelle deadpans:
  “If we step away from it, like, they legit had a demonic ceremony in the house for no reason... Some people take voodoo very seriously. I personally don’t like to play with stuff I don’t understand.” (62:14)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Rob: “He was a bad player. He was bad at the game. But was. Were you not entertained?” (06:59)
• Chappelle: “Like once a week. I was entertained. Like, once, like, one, and then. But I was annoyed a lot more than entertained.” (07:07)
• Jenny: “He stayed consistent in just being wrong and having faith in things.” (09:15)
• Rob: “If you were making up a two-dimensional person to put into the Big Brother house, Keanu was incredible drama...” (11:42)
• Chappelle: “He's tapped into the deepest, darkest, toxic, most toxic part of his manhood right now, okay?” (39:51)
• Jenny: “Sorry to get a little too preachy here, but the man needs some fucking therapy. I’m sorry for swearing...” (49:37)
• Chappelle: “Just gotta go all in on the lie at this point. It’s too late. You're too far in it... Lie until the wheels fall off. Take it to the grave.” (44:42)
• Chappelle: “We forgot what the theme…was of the season was. What happened to Hotel Mysterious? …Now you have someone with a pentagram downstairs sacrificing people with voodoo dolls. Where did that come from?” (27:16)
• Rob: “All she does is win. OK, this is crazy. This is a crazy run. People thought JAG was crazy. This is wilder than that.” (63:59)
• Chappelle: “There's only so much you can do when the person that you should be targeting, you're aligned with, and they won’t stop winning.” (75:33)

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Segment Timestamps

• Opening / Reality TV overload: 02:22–05:18
• Keanu’s eviction & legacy debate: 06:21–15:20, revisited throughout
• Vince & Morgan: Showmance, boundaries, Kelsey drama: 34:34–44:21, 47:01+
• Mastermind / Theme confusion: 27:16–32:34
• Family Videos: 35:30–37:04
• Tupperware vs. Tubberware: 54:18–56:49
• Tiny Veto challenge: 56:49–60:52
• Voodoo ceremony: 61:07–62:45
• Spoilers/Endgame Strategy: 62:45–78:07

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Final Thoughts

As the BB27 finale approaches, the panel celebrates (and roasts) the season’s messiest, most memorable figures—especially Keanu, whose dramatic exit, questionable moves, and love/hate viewership reaction left a big imprint on the late-game. In parallel, Vince's personal life, gameplay, and showmance with Morgan intertwine, leading to an endgame defined as much by competition dominance as jury bitterness and emotional fallout. The night's banter mixes game analysis, chaotic fun, and astute observations about Big Brother’s place in the pop culture pantheon.

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For more context or direct show references, see the timestamps above. Recurring jokes, running gags, and heated debate make this a classic late-season RHAP episode—essential listening or reading for BB27 fans!

Transcript

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Coming to you live from the Inner sanctum, it's Rob Has a Podcast. And now here's the guy who's got a whole tubberware full of podcast for you today. I'm Rob Sestronino. Hello everybody and welcome back to Late Night. Hey look, look. Hey. It's your new late Night hosts, We are here 11:15pm Eastern Time on Survivor premiere night, baby. And we're here to talk about a surprise eviction from the inner sanctum. Keanu has met his untimely defeat in Big Brother. And here to talk about it, of course, my co host from the slop and the guy who's getting ready for a new season of Club Condo, it's Chappelle.

[B]

Hey, Rob. We're up late. We're up late. We did it. We stayed up. We saw Big Brother. We saw Survivor. Now let's talk about it. It's going to be a good time.

[A]

Talk about it all here on a jam packed three hours on cbs. And now you. Here's a woman who's about to celebrate a birthday this week on Friday. It's Jenny Autumn. Jenny, how are you?

[C]

I'm wonderful. Not, not as, you know, as important as Morgan's birthday this week and just not as important as Morgan in general. But sorry, I'm getting a little too on you.

[A]

Yeah, sorry.

[C]

I'll stop the self deprecation. I don't want to bring us down this early.

[A]

Yeah. So, yeah, triple header for me tonight on the podcast front Survivor, know it alls. Big Brother here tonight. And also I was with Shannon Gus earlier today that we recorded an interview with Jonathan La Paglia, which hopefully we will have for you coming up on Thursday. So a jam packed slate here on RHAP before we get into a very busy Survivor Thursday, not to mention another double feature tomorrow night as we have our final four eviction for BB27. Plus, we'll be kicking off the Amazing Race Big Brother edition. How about that?

[B]

Wow. It's so much, so much going on. This is not overwhelming. Too much. It could never be too much, Rob.

[A]

Might be too much reality tv. I think I might be sick. Hold on a second.

[B]

Oh, no, no, no.

[C]

He spit my eyes.

[A]

I'm gonna fight through it. I'm gonna fight through it. Wrong podcast.

[B]

Which show are we talking about?

[C]

It's all the same. Sorry. I've been doing an endurance challenge today. I'm on the east coast. The best part of this podcast is like, none of the West Coasters are here.

[A]

Like the West Coasters.

[C]

No, I'm just saying, like it's. It wouldn't be as late of a podcast for them.

[A]

No, not for them. Yeah, it's all. It's all of us.

[C]

I actually, I thought this was the slop again.

[A]

I mean, it's going to be basically the slop just to spoil the show for you here tonight. Because we'll spend probably a lot of time talking about Vincent Morgan and probably not as much time talking about the tiny veto.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a challenge that happened on this episode. I promise. I saw it. I saw it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I could work it out. I'm sure. Like, they took the tweezers and they stacked the thing and then it fell down. Yeah, they did the thing I was like before. Yeah, just, I figured that one out.

[A]

So heads up on the schedule tomorrow, it is going to be a 90 minute big brother eviction coming up. So get read for that. Taryn is going to be live for the Big Brother eviction. And then I'm going to be with you for the live recap of the Amazing Race at this same time tomorrow night.

[B]

Yes.

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Late night is here.

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Right? You will not be silenced.

[C]

We won't let you.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

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All right. All right. So let's talk about our final four here as Keon Keanu ends up going home. And are we sad for Keanu? It was a good run. No, I mean, no love for Keanu. I know. Yeah. We want Rachel to win afp, but I was entertained by Keanu this year. No, say something nice about Keanu. Come on.

[C]

Yeah. Everyone go in a circle. Say something nice about Keanu. Okay, Chappelle first.

[B]

He won some challenges.

[A]

Look, he was a bad player. He was bad at the game. But was. Were you not entertained?

[C]

Exactly, Rob. Exactly.

[B]

Like once a week. I was entertained. Like, once, like, one and then. But I was annoyed a lot more than entertained. Like, I was entertained and then I wasn't. And I did it for what, eight weeks in a row. But it was always the same pattern. It was like, this is entertaining, but also, this is, this is sad. This is sad. This is embarrassing. There are definitely moments where I'm like, I want to jump to the screen and shake him and just be like, hey, hey, wake up, wake up. Stop telling us that Vince is untrustworthy and then trusting him. Stop it, stop it, stop it. But he just, he wouldn't. So I've love hate relationship with his game this season. I, I, I love.

[A]

But he made you feel something, right?

[B]

I felt something.

[A]

You won't forget Keanu.

[B]

I'm try, I'm gonna try my best.

[A]

Was he not. Oh, go ahead, Jenny.

[C]

No, I was just gonna say, I think that the thing is the blockbuster gave us characters like Keanu and Kelly who ended up lasting so much longer in the game than they otherwise would or should have. And that's okay, to a certain extent. But I did really feel like it got to the point where it overstayed its welcome, where we were having to lose people who were otherwise in better, like, social or, like, strategic positions than them at the cost of them staying to just keep winning blockbusters. So there's, like, a little bit of frustration there, especially also with, like, the Rachel of it all and how that went out. And it's like the Rachel.

[A]

But who was that person that. That we lost who was better at the social part of the game? Will.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

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Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Well.

[A]

Well's a nice guy.

[C]

Anyone?

[A]

I'm sure maybe I'll have a barbecue with it with Will at some point. But, I mean, the Keanu was. Gave us so much. I mean, he was. Is KEANU A top 10 big brother character of the 20s?

[B]

No.

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Faint praise. Come on.

[C]

Of the top 10 of the 20?

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Yes.

[C]

No, I think I would. I think I could maybe co. Sign that.

[B]

I cannot. I don't feel. I feel like. What are we talking about?

[A]

You're such a hater.

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So, like, wrong. Loud and wrong. Until the very, very end, he stayed consistent in just being wrong and having faith in things.

[B]

Yeah.

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He was a cartoon character.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I just. I just think that there's, like, so many people from other seasons where, like, I could not say the same about them having any sort of memorable traits. It's good he went. He's probably going to take afp, which is. Which is probably another.

[A]

Well, listen, I'm not campaigning for Keanu to win. No, no, no. For afp. But I want to give Keanu his flowers.

[B]

You did. You've given him so many flowers this whole time. And I just let y' all do it. But, like, there's at least seven people on BB20 that are bigger characters than Keanu. I could name them. It's called Faute. Like what? Like he can't get past BB20. He's better than Fessy. No, not character wise. Is he better than Fessy? That's crazy. You just said, are we getting Fessy.

[C]

Versus Keanu and Hall?

[A]

Am I missing what you're saying? You said all of Faltay is better.

[B]

Than Keanu as a character. Absolutely. And probably as gamers, too, in a weird way. I don't know if. I don't think he can shine their shoes.

[C]

Wow.

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Okay.

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Well, I think we have recency bias.

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Yeah, I think so. I think so. Because that's just 20. I haven't even got to 21. Well, I got the 22.

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Don't worry about 21. Don't worry about 22.

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We're not doing. And 22 doesn't count.

[B]

What about the cookout? That's at least four people.

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The cookout as a force certainly was.

[B]

You know, each of the cookouts standalone.

[C]

Not doing every single individual person in the top 10 dynamic.

[B]

So even if you included the kick out as a whole portion, you still got.

[A]

I don't like that we're including alliances as people in the. Where we're doing the top 10 characters and you're putting, like an alliance and as a character.

[C]

Yeah. You can't pick all of fau. All of. All of the cookout.

[B]

If you picked each of them. I'm pretty sure they still. Maybe I'm tripping. Maybe I'm tripping. I don't want to. I don't want to sound like a hater. I'm just saying, before I got the BB25, I could name at least 19 other people better than this character.

[A]

Yeah, he was horrible.

[C]

It's just like he was just like memorable entertainment.

[B]

Top 10 was hot.

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Top 15 that he stunk as a game player. But again, if you were making up a two dimensional person to put into the Big Brother house like Keanu was, it was incredible drama in terms of a person to have in the Big Brother house this summer.

[B]

You picking Keanu over Big D?

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Yeah. Big D I find very entertaining. He has great hot takes, but in terms of, like, what he brought to the show. Yes. And maybe Big D and my friendship will be over after this, but I stand that Keanu is a better television character than Big D. Okay.

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I do not.

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I don't think that's a hot take.

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I think it is. We got a lot from Big D. We got fights. We got Evote. You know, we got a whole lot.

[A]

Kiana didn't give you fights? Keanu didn't give. I believe you have a prompt.

[B]

Oh, yeah. That he got her.

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We could have gotten, like 20 more fights between Keanu and Rachel if she didn't get hamster wheeled of death and.

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He left this episode. He was the only person saying nice things about Rachel on the way out.

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It's about time.

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You know, that was his coach. She's gonna be so proud of him.

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It's complicated.

[B]

What's happening, Jenny?

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It was complicated.

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Somebody spit some water in my face. I feel like I might be asleep maybe. Hold on. Okay.

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I think I feel like Rob feels about Keanu the way that Keanu seems to feel about Vince, where it's like.

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You know, there's something about this guy I can't let go.

[B]

Yeah, I see.

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Everyone's telling you it's a bad idea. Let this Keanu thing go. And he's just like, oh, maybe one more time.

[B]

I'm not trying to convince you not to like Keanu. I just don't. For me, in my rankings, 15. Top 20, maybe. Top 20.

[A]

Okay, look, Keanu's been a polarizing figure where that. There are certainly some people who have really enjoyed watching him and other people like Chappelle, who are all the way out on Keanu. I just thought he added a lot to the season.

[B]

I said top 20 in the 20s.

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Top 20 words in each other's mouths is just like, I feel like I'm like, I'm clocked in for Vorgan hours here.

[B]

He's like, top five character this season.

[A]

Top five this season. Okay, well, who's ahead of him? Rachel.

[B]

Okay, Rachel, number one.

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Rachel's a legend. Rachel's a, you know, top. Top all time.

[B]

Is she not in the season.

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Yes.

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Rachel, you got Vince. I would give Vince more character moments, of course. Morgan, I think she's number three. I think Ava. People thought she was gonna be AFP for a while.

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Keanu. You can't compare Ava to Keanu.

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I think they're pretty close. I think if you're gonna compare them, that's. That's where he's. He's up against her for probably that fifth spot. Maybe. Will.

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Will.

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You will.

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I do. Like, Will's not a great guy, but I feel like. Is Will on the DVD cover of the season?

[B]

Is Mickey. Mickey's not a bigger character than Keanu.

[A]

Definitely not.

[B]

She's better than you. What are you talking about?

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She's got a great song, but no. Come on. All right, well, let's talk about. Okay, so.

[B]

So.

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All right.

[B]

We.

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We've got Keanu in the rearview mirror. I can't wait to see the reaction when we get a jury segment. I think we'll have that tomorrow night in the 90 minute episode. Jenny, did we get your thoughts on Keanu? As Chappelle and I are in an.

[C]

Argument, I feel like I said that I'm kind of somewhere in the. In the middle between your two takes in that. I think that I can't imagine the season without him. But, you know, he did kind of exemplify some of the problems with having the. The BB blockbuster go for as long as it did.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But I. In a season of a lot of really bad players, his particular type of bad playing I just found kind of funny. It was just really entertaining to see, like, him just go into the doctor every single week and just be so sure of things that were just not true. And without fail, like, just over and over and over again. And I just found that kind of delightful from, like, an entertainment perspective. So, I mean, I'm still watching tv, so, you know, I. I think for.

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Me, Keanu is a character that would be better on a different show on the challenge, and I'm tuning in every week, okay, he's gonna fight. He's gonna argue. He's gonna be, you know, he's gonna win.

[A]

I might watch the challenge if Keanu's on it.

[B]

I would check that out on the challenge. There's a bunch of people who would be good on the challenge. I just don't think hit for me in Big Brother.

[A]

Put Rachel on Survivor. Put Keanu on the challenge.

[B]

If you'll put Keanu on the challenge and tell me. Yeah, I'm tuning in to. To the challenge with. With Keanu every time. Just not Big Brother. Okay.

[C]

Yeah, that's fair.

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I hate to say it, but he's gonna play again.

[B]

Chappelle, what's wrong with you? Why did you do this?

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He's going to. I'm telling you, he will.

[B]

What is it? What?

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Because I don't think, like. Like, we had Tucker last season, but I don't think that maybe, like, oh, no. I don't know if Tucker likes playing Big Brother. I don't know if Tucker wants to be on.

[C]

He really likes puzzles.

[A]

He likes puzzles. The whole time he was on Big Brother, he's like, I want to leave. I don't like it here. But Keanu liked it there.

[B]

Big Brother brought back Frank Yuty, so they'll do whatever they want. Okay? I'm not going to say Keanu's not coming back, everybody.

[A]

He's going to come back like Rachel next season. He's going to come back as, like, the one returning player.

[B]

And honestly, we might stand. Sometimes it's just maybe sometimes it's just not true.

[A]

People didn't like Rachel until her second season.

[B]

Yeah, same. Yeah, I was there for that. So, yeah, maybe he just gets better with time. Just for me, it just didn't hit this time. But who's to say next time he won't be a great Big Brother character?

[A]

I'm not stanning Keanu.

[B]

I'm just kind of stanning Keanu. It's going a little hard.

[A]

Maximus mom called me a Keanu.

[B]

Stan you a little bit. You kind Of I just look.

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I think Rob stands entertainment.

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I stand interested. That's right. Do I. Does anybody here like good tv? Allegedly. What is it? Supposedly. Yeah.

[B]

You get supposed to believe.

[C]

What do people want?

[B]

Jenny and I both know good TV because we were the first Vince stands to come out and sign and say. Raising our hands, we faced the crowd.

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And said, this guy, he's something special.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

Something about this.

[C]

Let him cook. Let this man cook. And he's. He's cooked. I think he's.

[A]

He's cooked. Put him in the tupperware. Put him in the Tupperware. Because tonight was a night where, okay, Vince and his hoh. He got Keanu out. And Keanu tried to go to Vince one last time and say, hey, man, if you get me out, it's going to be Morgan's move. I'm going to tell everybody you're not going to get my jury vote. And Vince was once again in the blender.

[B]

Well, I mean, I'm happy that he tried something. I think that, you know, just listening to Keanu outline all the reasons why he shouldn't trust Vince, how many times Vince has betrayed him and backstabbed him and how he's been loyal from week one, and he just refuses to just turn on this guy. I. I thought this was a valiant effort from somebody who really didn't have a lot more. A lot of cards to play at that point. He's like, look, you go up against Morgan, it's gonna be tough for you to win. You go up against Ashley, it might be tough for you to win, but you can always count on me. Okay? If you don't, if you let somebody else evict me, I'll vote for you. Or you could just take me to the final two and then I'll just get all the votes you're supposed to get. But please, whatever you do, don't let Morgan make this move because then you'll lose my vote and you'll lose the game.

[C]

I think the. It's not a bad pitch, but I think the problem I see with it, and I'm not 100% sure if Vince is seeing it this clearly, but it's not like Keanu is the one vote that makes the difference between Vince winning and losing. And that seems to be kind of what Keanu is trying to pitch here. I think that, you know, over the past week, especially since the double eviction for sure, you know, Vince is starting to see, especially with Morgan stacking up wins in the meantime. He's kind of seeing the Writing on the wall that he's kind of in her shadows, people are giving her credit for things, and he's pissed off a lot of people in ways that she hasn't. And, you know, he might be hoping for a couple of votes or still kind of on the fence of some of them. But, like, it's not necessarily like, if he doesn't get Keanu's, then that's the difference between winning or losing. And I personally feel like for Vince at this point, it's like. And he kind of says this in the diary room tonight. It's like, I have blown up my life, blown up my game, and I'm going to keep this guy Keanu around because I don't want to lose his vote when I'm probably losing the game anyway. Let me get something out of this here. So that's, that's the issue there for, for this argument, argument from Keanu is I just don't think that he is the deciding factor in Vince winning or losing.

[A]

Bell, could Vince be playing for D chess where he knows Keanu never gets what he wants? Keanu is always going to vote wrong and be wrong. And if Keanu goes to the jury house and campaigns for Vince to lose hard enough, could Vince not win the game?

[B]

But that would have to, that would require Vince to acknowledge that Keanu is never not going to vote for him. You know what I'm saying? Like, Keanu is always going to be a vote for Vince. So that's why, that's why you're going to lose if anything. That's the argument. Keep me because I will vote for you and then everyone else will not. So keep me. If I'm not on the jury telling people to vote for you, you might actually get some joke, some votes in. Because when he goes to jury house and says, hey, guys, I know you all like Morgan, I know you all like Ashley, but Vince is the real game player. I guarantee you all those other votes are going the opposite direction.

[C]

If anything, I think maybe the argument should be, listen, you can't beat Morgan. And I know that because of your relationship, you can't be, you can't. You might not even get the chance to cut her. But if you are in a position where you could, you can't. However, if you keep me in the game, I am some. I'm another person who could potentially win these comps and I could beat Morgan and I will take you and I will make the move for you. You won't have to make it. Like, again, it kind of comes down to logistics on who's winning these comps because it might not necessarily be up to Keanu, but, like, you can almost kind of pitch it that way. It's like, let me take this burden from you because God, wouldn't Vince love that? You know what I mean? Like, take the. Take the burden from him because that's kind of really what. What he was keeping Lauren around for is like, he really did prefer to sit, at least it seems to sit in the final two against Lauren. And as long and as long as Lauren was around, it's like, oopsie. If. If Morgan accidentally gets taken out and I had nothing to do with it, maybe we're still best friends or whatever after this, and I didn't do anything wrong. So Keanu can kind of pitch himself as that is. Like, I can, I can be here to eliminate Morgan so you don't have to make the. The losing decision to take her emotionally, perhaps.

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[B]

I think we forgot what the theme of was of the season was. Right. What happened to, like, Hotel Mysterious? It's like a murder mystery, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now you have, like, someone in, like, with a pentagram downstairs, like, sacrificing people with voodoo dolls. Where did that come from?

[C]

We've reached fall, and so now we need to get spooky with it. I think that, like, it was a mystery hotel and now it's like torture dungeon.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, Jenny, we played Trivia Murder Party before, and I think it's the closest thing.

[A]

Is that what we're going for?

[C]

It is for our friends over at Jackbox. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it honestly almost felt a little bit like, close to plagiarism, but, I mean, it's not like voodoo dolls and, like. But, like, everything about the imagery felt very like the big pins and everything. I don't. It just. Yeah, it was giving trivia murder.

[A]

So there's only three nights left of Big Brother. There's going to be tomorrow night, Friday night, and I will be with you for the recap of the recap coming up on Friday night. And then Sunday night will be the finale. Will the mastermind be unmasked in these three episodes.

[B]

Okay, am I tripping or did the mastermind say the tiny veto was for Andy Jr? Who was he?

[A]

Well, yeah, because of course Andy, Aaron's cat is Andy Jr. And he called him a little weasel.

[B]

Am I tripping?

[C]

No, that. No, you're right. I had the same thought Chappelle. I was like, wait, did I miss a thread? Where all of a sudden it's like, oh, I'm left alone with a little Andy's weasel layer or whatever. It's like, oh, we have to, you know, put this portrait together in, in little weasel Andy's lair. I'm like, what is. Who is little Andy? Is this is Andy Heron or Andy Heron's cat, Andy Jr. The mastermind.

[A]

Mastermind. Yeah. Well, that would be wild. If Andy Heron was unmasked to be.

[B]

The mastermind, I would be so happy for Andy Heron because, you know, he's been dying to get back in the big brother, like, you know, atmosphere.

[A]

He was thrilled on chat bcc.

[B]

Yeah, but I don't think Andy, if Andy is the mastermind, he found out when we found out. Like he found out on this episode. Like, wait, are they talking about me? Because he was just with us on a recap a few weeks ago thinking, like, I'm never going to be called back for anything. I would host a competition.

[C]

He's playing the call. No, no, it was already there and he was just. He's gaming you right there.

[B]

Okay. Oh, the, the people in the chat are saying it's the Andrew. The interns.

[C]

Oh, that's the Andy.

[A]

We're really going all in on that.

[C]

Yeah, they call him Andrew though.

[A]

Anyway, could the mastermind be on Unmasked by Sunday night? If I recall, last year I believe Ainsley was defeated in the final three. Hoh. And then we saw Janky resurrected in the final moments. They like to close the loop.

[C]

We must know.

[B]

We have to know who could it be that we would. That wouldn't be the biggest. Like, like, you know, like how. How are we gonna get an unmasking and actually be like, oh shoot, it's such and such. Like I just don't see it happening.

[A]

Let's who are acceptable answers for who the mastermind could be?

[B]

Ainsley.

[A]

Ainsley, okay.

[C]

Like, like the, the, the actress that played Ainsley in the diary room.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Okay. Dr. Will, what about the little blue haired baddie?

[B]

Yeah, Dr. Will, I think is up there. What about Jody?

[A]

Jody?

[B]

They used to keep Jody in rotation. Yeah, they used her out Every now.

[A]

And then, pop her out. Every.

[B]

Every now we're losing recipes.

[A]

Could Daniel Reyes be the mastermind?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I don't wish.

[A]

We'll accept it.

[C]

Would they. Would she have agreed to be the mastermind that inflicts the punishment that she suffered?

[B]

Well, she was defending that twist on Twitter, Jenny. She was like, you gotta. She was.

[A]

It happened to her. Jenny.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's her origin villain story.

[C]

So then maybe that's even more poignant for it in that it's like you're just trying to justify. I don't know. I don't know.

[B]

What. What's Quinn's friend from? From Kangaroo Jack. What's his name?

[A]

Jerry o'. Connell.

[C]

What about my friend?

[B]

He hasn't been on Unlocked at all. Right?

[A]

He was on.

[C]

He was. He was.

[B]

Never mind. I know. I don't watch that.

[C]

Yeah, I just.

[A]

I thought Boston Rob there was a chance to.

[C]

All due respect, they can't. No, they can't reuse a guest from Unlocked.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

And with all due respect to intern Andrew, if that is who little weasel Andy is and they feel like this is a big enough thing to be a reveal. I'm sorry, what are we doing here?

[B]

What is this?

[A]

Okay, well, let's get into some of the very important things from this episode. We got a Vincent Morgan segment, and we saw that this was a conversation that they had late at night where Vince was trying to figure out the numbers. And this is what he wanted to know.

[B]

If you were a statistic statistian, and the percentage was zero, I just let you know. I don't.

[A]

That's fine. Like, I'm good.

[C]

Are you asking for a percentage?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

This was hilarious. And then they started, like, doing the math on the screen.

[C]

Did they start doing the math? Because I'm. I'm dumb as hell. So I just saw symbols, and I was like, that looks like an equation.

[A]

Well, it was nonsense. Yes and yes.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

It happened like Vince was saying Christian.

[A]

Hyubicki in the Survivor chat. BCC happened to be live tweeting Big Brother and was watching it. And then I think he turned it off. He got mad during the tiny veto and he rage quit Big Brother as a Christian, you need to come back that can. Look at this. Look at this equation. Can you solve this?

[C]

Solve, help us all for X.

[B]

If he made it through Ansley and Janky, I thought he could make it through anything. You know, I thought that those robots really, really pissed off Christian, but you really just. They. They broke him with this One, I guess. This was crazy. This was. This was crazy. Like, just the audio itself doesn't do this conversation justice. And so the Big Brother producers have gone above and beyond out of their way to make sure that we understand that Vince is not talking about the game anymore, y'. All. He's talking about these hearts. You know, what percentage of this heart is that? We're solving for the heart, whatever that means to him. And we see this all play out, and then seconds later, they cut to Vince going, yeah, I don't know why I didn't get a message from Chelsea. That's crazy to me.

[A]

I was like, vince, Vince, Big Brother. They set this one up perfectly, because then we go right from that to, all right, videos from home. And we're gonna see everyone's loved ones videos. And so this was fun, and they kept it real short and sweet. We just got to see a little bit of what everybody else has going on. We got to see Vince's parents. They said, we miss you, Vincenzo.

[B]

Do they call him Vincenzo in the first week? I remember Ava calling him Vincenzo a couple times. And that's when I realized, this is our second Big Brother, Vincenzo. I was very excited.

[A]

Oh, is Enzo a Vincenzo?

[B]

I was like, this. This is our second Enzo. You know, wow. Okay.

[A]

We saw Morgan's parents, We saw Ashley's family and Ava's parents, and they had the boyfriend right there. So it's like, oh, see that? They do have significant others. And then we had the whole Keanu crew. Can you at least give some credit to Keanu's family for having the best video?

[B]

Oh, they cooked Family is like a top 10 family of the 20s for sure. They're up, like, top easily. Maybe top five.

[A]

They brought out the big butt. And I believe you have a props.

[B]

They were. They remembered his one online about the cooked.

[C]

They did the two men that were saying, because I love the composition of the video, like, where the two men were, like, standing up, and it was like they were just kind of, like, standing there. Like, they almost had, like, this, like. I don't know, it was just like, kind of an imposing stance. Like, it was giving, like, the tick tock trend, where it's like, like, hey, this is my girlfriend. She's gonna tell you about this thing, and you better be nice. And, like, they let, like, you know, Keanu's mom, like, do her, and they stand back, and they're just like, like, now click.

[B]

Like on the video. Exactly.

[C]

You better listen. You better laugh at this joke about the prompt.

[A]

There's a Lower third on these videos of like, oh, wait, who's Keanu's dad here? Like, who are these? Who's this other guy? Like.

[B]

No, it was. It was great. It was great. They remembered all of Keanu's greatest hits. We got the big butt as well. It was great. It was a fun moment.

[A]

It was a good moment.

[C]

Yeah. Hey, and Ava having, you know, her parents, but also her boyfriend Caleb, I think is really what causes this tailspin for. For Vince. Because, you know, if. If other, you know, if everyone's videos was just strictly family, then he could maybe kind of talk himself into something here where it was like, oh, they were only doing direct family. But no, I think that especially because Ava's boyfriend was in her video, he starts doing the why.

[B]

No, Kelsey.

[C]

All right, I wonder why.

[A]

So let's get in Vince's head a little bit as he's got questions. I am getting a little worried perception wise.

[C]

Like, am I too affectionate with Morgan?

[A]

Okay, let's. Let's address these questions one on one, one by one. Is Vince too affectionate with Morgan?

[B]

I guess what sits.

[C]

If you have to ask, you know the answer. Also, there was a whole Zing bot. Like, Morgan's entire zing was about. So the two of your relationship and how, like, touchy feely, the hugging. It's like, my guy. Yeah. Yeah. I think that if this has become such a storyline of the show that Zingbot is making a joke about it. I think we've reached the point where you have, you know, you shouldn't even be asking the question.

[A]

Okay. All right. So that's possibly. We'll say, yeah, we like to spend.

[B]

Time together, and, yeah, we sleep in.

[C]

The same bed, but it's a giant bed, and her head is at the opposite of me.

[A]

It's a giant music, and her head is at the opposite of him.

[B]

Is it even a king platonic 69 cuddling? It's a thing.

[A]

It's 96.

[B]

Her head down there. Clearly there could be nothing intimate about this at all. With her head being down there. It might have been up here. What are you trying to.

[C]

And we know. We know Morgan is. Is more of a butt person than a foot person. So it's not like, you know, she's. She's still like, a reasonable distance away from the butt.

[B]

Yeah, but, like, closer than she would be.

[C]

Okay, maybe long torso, short. Have I crossed boundaries that I'm not aware of?

[B]

That I didn't think I did, but.

[A]

Maybe I did that. Is that now that's the Tough one. Have I crossed boundaries that maybe I didn't think I did, but maybe I did? Yeah, but who's to say?

[B]

I don't understand why he lied to. Okay, I understand why he's lying to us, but in my mind, Vince has tapped into the deepest, darkest, toxic, most toxic part of his manhood right now, okay? He right now is using the diary room to manipulate Kelsey from inside the Big Brother house. He's saying, who would you believe, me or your lying eyes? Guys, you've seen the clips. You've seen the edit, but I'm telling you, I have no clue why you would be upset with me. Everything that I've done has been platonic. It's a giant bed. Why wouldn't I share with cameras, make it look small?

[A]

It is a giant bed.

[B]

If he gets out this house and somehow manages to keep Kelsey around, I might have to go give him some tens on the stock watch, man. Because this is crazy. This is. This is 5D chess. This is crazy. He's playing the world at this point.

[A]

Boundaries that I'm not aware of, that.

[B]

I didn't think I did, but maybe I did.

[C]

Am I single right now?

[B]

Did Kelsey dump me?

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[C]

And this is where this is. The problem is I think that he now convinces himself I have been dumped.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

So now I can lean fully into this thing.

[B]

And.

[C]

And I feel like that kind of explains.

[A]

She dumped me. I didn't. I didn't do anything.

[C]

Yeah, it's the. It's like. It's like the. I'm gonna make you dump me so that I don't have to. Which is so, like, emblematic of, like, everything Vince is about, where it's just like, I'm going to force. I will not do the thing. I will just. Just make you hate me so much that you break up with me, and then I'm the victim. Because it's like, how could you do.

[B]

This to me, bro?

[C]

You were emotionally cheating on me for, like, 90 days.

[B]

He's gonna talk to Kelsey, and she's gonna be like, vince, why would you go and get in to try to get in a relationship with Morgan? He's gonna be like, I thought you dumped me. I thought you dumped me. You haven't. I won hoh four times, and I haven't heard from you in, like, a month. I thought you mistook all of those moments, those platonic human chemistry moments for something, and you were all confused, and then you dumped me. I had nowhere else to go. Morgan was right there, and we're not even together. We're just friends, too. So, like, this is the best case scenario for all of us. You can take me back now. If Morgan doesn't want.

[C]

I want to split up. Morgan and Vinny, they are a strong power duo that is plowing their way.

[B]

To the end yet they have not started plowing their way to the end yet. More, they. They. But they're close to the end.

[A]

I apologize. I played that too early. I. I was waiting for you to stop talking to play that clip.

[B]

No, no, it worked. It.

[C]

Actually, the timing was just fine.

[A]

They are plowing their way to the end.

[B]

He wishes.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I. At this point, he just assumes he is dumped. Like, he takes the video thing as a sign that I guess I crossed the boundary I wasn't aware of.

[A]

I guess.

[B]

Yeah, I guess I'm just. Yeah, I guess I got to do whatever it takes to win now because I was just dumped for no reason. There was no fault of my own.

[A]

Yeah. And he goes on after that monologue to say, like, am I gonna lose this game and get no money and have no girlfriend and be single? I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[C]

I'd like. Morgan isn't even gonna be interested in me. Like, that's where we're adding that into the picture. It's like, yeah, he's spiraling.

[B]

Actually, if Morgan had no access to the diary rooms, I think he'd be okay. But she is repeatedly asking him for reassurance in the house and being like, so you're being completely honest with me, right? Like, you were never going to let Lauren try to take me out before. They're like, no, not me. Never. I was never gonna do that. I'm like, vince, she will see the footage. You know why? Because people have been sending her footage for weeks now since Borgen started to take off. People have been building a case against you. I am your. As your defense lawyer, I'm telling you we are up it. Vince, please do better. Help me. Help me help you.

[A]

Okay. As Vince's lawyer, Chappelle, when you speak with your client, if you may breach that, you know, you know, lawyer client confidentiality, I'm sure it's. It's called as a name. What will you tell him to do? How. How does he proceed when he gets out of the house?

[B]

Okay. He's got to keep lying. He's just got to go all in on the lie at this point. It's too late. You're too far in it. I would have told him to start Telling the truth about a month ago, but we're past that. We're too. We're in it. We're in it. Lie until the wheels fall off. Take it. Take it to the grave.

[A]

Yes. Okay. Attorney client privilege. Thank you, Sarah. Cupcakes.

[C]

Notes. App. Apology.

[B]

Right. Lie.

[A]

No notes. That's not gonna work.

[B]

And lie to everyone. Lie to everyone. They all won't quit you. They're not strong enough. You can do this. That's how I would talk. That's how I would talk them up.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

You're who he needed and not Keanu.

[B]

He was okay, because Keanu lost sight of the real vision here. Keanu still thought they were playing Big Brother together. He's like, why don't you put up Morgan, Vince? And we're like, shut up. You know? But me, I would have been like, look, Vince, never get rid of Lauren. Build a wall between Lauren and Morgan. Keep them in the house forever. Are you crazy? They'll always be targeting each. Always going to take you to the final two over each other. And then you'll have a little smoke screen. And then you also have a little fun. You and Morgan are very entertaining and having a great time when y' all are arguing. Since they stopped arguing. I'm talking about just so boring of a couple of friends. It's so schmoopy. Bring back.

[A]

I don't want to get in trouble.

[B]

But, Lauren, for. For.

[A]

Say it.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I mean, I. I feel like. I don't know, they. They always find a way to keep coming back to, you know, old arguments and stuff. But, I mean, like, even still today, they're still. They're still rehashing things. You know, emotions are still very high. I think that it's not like it's all, you know, just. I don't think it's that shmoopy yet. And I think the problem is now it's like, you know, Vince is doing. He's doing his own calculations.

[B]

He's.

[C]

No money.

[A]

No, honey.

[B]

I got no money. I got no.

[C]

I'm doing the quoting, okay?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you got no money and you got no car, then you got no woman. And there you are a wise man once. There you are.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like this is Zingbot's fault. Everything was going according to plan.

[A]

This is Zingbot's fault.

[B]

And then Zingbot came in and blew up everything. And ever since Ding by ran his fat mouth, Morgan's been like, hey, do people think that I'm like, you know, trying to date Vinnie while he obviously has a girlfriend that he won't stop talking about. And like, are. Are people gonna look at me badly? And I'm like, no, Zingbot, shut up. We had so much fun back then when they was like flirting, like we couldn't see them. Bring that back. I think they forgot that the live feeds were a thing. Or at least they don't think they're on when they're in night vision, but they're on. And those are working hours. They start about 4am Eastern.

[A]

Here's the thing. I think that Vinnie was a production favorite earlier in the season and then he started lying in the diary room to production and they don't like that. And like Rachel was like a team player and Rachel would give it to them straight in the diary room and she still got screwed. But for Vince, that he lies to production and they're like, that we're gonna end you, Zingbot. Do your worst.

[C]

And then, I mean, I'm sure also like, they are just like, this is morally something that we just like. Like, we're like, I don't know, this is not a game thing for us. So we are going to bury you. Yeah, it's just, it just sucks. Like, I feel, I feel terribly, you know, like, joke. All jokes aside, I feel terribly for, you know, even though we have not heard from Kelsey, she owes the Big Brother community nothing and everyone should also just leave her alone. But, you know, it just sucks to think that this is like, you know, the result of this situation and it's not just all what's happening in the Big Brother house, it is affecting somebody's life outside of here. But I just really think that, like a lot of the stuff that Vince has been saying, especially in the last few days, it's like he's someone who has been trying to find meaning in places and, you know, perhaps this relationship with Kelsey needed to end anyway. Obviously not a good way of going about it. But I also don't think that, that him trying to find meaning or fulfillment in Big Brother in another person like Morgan is really going to be the answer. And sorry to get a little too preachy here, but the man needs some fucking therapy. I'm sorry for swearing, but I.

[B]

My co counsel has spoken. My co counsel has spoken. Thank you, Jenny. This is. We plead insanity.

[C]

Anything like the money needs to be put towards just figuring this whole thing out and stop dragging people through the mud in your trying to find your own stuff out. That's all.

[B]

He's basically a victim.

[C]

We're back there. Yes. Yeah, that's what he would say. And we're back. And we're back.

[B]

The defense rest Rob. Okay.

[A]

And Kelsey didn't deserve any of this. And what I would like to do as a way to show some support towards her that I would like to start a. Rob has a podcast competition. Maybe a sweepstakes. Win a date with Kelsey. Kelsey, if you're listening, we will take applications from the RHAP audience. Let's find 25 eligible RHAP listeners who want to date Kelsey and we can. Every week she'll go on dates, tell us how they went.

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This is good.

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No plaid, no beanies, no mustaches. Do not traumatize this poor woman.

[B]

I just feel like we might be putting the cart before the horse. We don't know if Kelsey is going to be single for this event to happen. We don't know. Maybe Vince will come out the house, the two of them will talk about it, and then cooler heads will prevail and they will live happily ever after. I'm gonna. I hold hope for true love. Love.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. I mean, that's possible.

[C]

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[A]

Another moment in the episode between Vincent, Morgan and this was like, like strange to me because I didn't know where they were going with this. Where Morgan and Ashley were talking to Vince about Tupperware and he was incensed. He couldn't believe it.

[B]

I just remember finishing the.

[C]

The taco meat, putting it into the Tupperware after making my tacos.

[A]

Into the what?

[B]

Into the Tupperware.

[A]

Oh my God. Tupperware and not Tupperware.

[C]

I like. I feel like a few years ago I realized that, that a lot of.

[A]

People call it Tupperware.

[C]

That's the word.

[A]

Who cares?

[C]

It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. What a strange segment to fold.

[A]

I can't believe. I mean, there's really nothing going on. If we're like, Vince is incensed that they're saying Tupperware and not Tupperware.

[B]

I kind of love it. It's like they'd never seen the word Tupperware. So they've only like heard people say it really quickly. And so they just kind of like, oh, it must be tub of wear or something like that because it's like a tuberware. Yeah, Tupperware sounds like a thing why.

[C]

Would you call it actually motion to rename to Tupperware.

[B]

Of the man's. Damn it. A Tupperware makes less sense than tub aware. You know.

[C]

It'S such a strange, like, you know, thing to put in the edit too, because they. This was like, a moment where they're like, Vince is smart. He knows the word.

[B]

These.

[C]

These girls, though, they're saying the word wrong. And. And Vince is telling them how it is when, like, the edit has just been burying this man.

[B]

Like, any.

[C]

Any other moment. They'.

[A]

Yeah. Well, Jenny, we're at the point in the season where we really, even though we're down to, like, less episodes a week, like, we have, we're in the, like, Kyland putting tortillas on his face era of the season, where it was like, we have nothing to show you.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it's true. But it was just such a short, like, weirdly spliced in thing with, like, not really any other content like that. The rest of the episode was all, like, game stuff. And they just, like, tossed this in. We're just like, oh, okay, okay, sure. Tubberware.

[A]

Sure. Okay. We had the tiny veto. We haven't mentioned it. We talked about the cat. Was there anything here for the tiny video? Would you be good at the tiny veto?

[B]

No. No. Like, I. I have big hands. Like, I have great dexterity, but just my hands are too big. I feel like they just would, like, not really. Like, they wouldn't do well with the. You know, you do it. I think you're great.

[C]

I don't know, I feel like between, like, all the caffeine and stimulants, that I'd probably just be, like, shaking like a. Like a leaf in there. But I don't know. I think I. I think I do have the patience for it and, like, the vision. But I think what's nice about the tiny veto is that, like, yes, it's completely frustrating because you knock things over and then you have to, like, start over again or whatever, but at least you can't see how everyone else is doing because, like, you know, like in other, like in Survivor or whatever, you're like, stacking blocks and stuff like that. And then it's like yours drops and you look over and, like, someone's really close. Like, that beats you down mentally even more because you're like, like, I just dropped all of my stuff. This guy's really close. So at least that you can kind of just stay locked in on your own thing. So I do kind of like that part of the. The Tiny video is that you're just like focused on your own little puzzle.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I would probably not be very good at it.

[B]

So I think like sometimes I go into those ADHD spirals where all of a sudden I can focus on one thing that doesn't matter about anything else. Like if it was like, if I had a bunch of things that I had to do, like let's say I had to go renew my driver's house license, give me the tiny veto. I would spend so much, like I could, I could knock it out. I would just spend so much time doing it. Sometimes I don't know why I talk about stupid stuff like this, but sometimes like the drawstring and like my hoodie or like my shorts will like get stuck inside. I'm fishing it out. I'm in there, I'm in there. I don't. People are like, there's a better technique. I'm sorry. My technique of spending three hours on this is, is the way I'm going to do it. So, like I could focus and do it. I don't think the speed would be there.

[A]

You have to have a more annoying thing to do instead. Yes.

[B]

Literally anything that I have to do. Give me the tiny veto. I'll knock it out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah. Did you guys catch that? Vince says that over the years he's become like somewhat.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

How I then remember that he used to play baseball. And so I was like, is this like from that. Is that what he meant? But then also I was just remembering that, that, that clip on, on the slop with the bottle.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm like, and who hands?

[B]

Yeah, I, I'm not ambidextrous. I'm right handed. That's all. Can't do with my left hand. It's just there. Just decoration. Yeah.

[C]

I, I also noticed Ava like the way that she was holding her tongs. Oh, gosh.

[B]

Demonstrate. Jenny, please.

[C]

No, it's just like it was. It. It honestly made me feel a little bit seen because I hold everything weird. Like I hold. I'm right handed but I hold like pencils, pens. Like I'm left handed. Like it's, it's pointing in the opposite direction. And there was like a point where she had the tongs and she was like twisted in like a weird direction. I was just like, that is an interesting angle to be doing that.

[A]

Yeah. Well, we watched some videos of Ava eating with a fork on the slop. And so.

[C]

Yes. And it makes so much sense. Sensed to seeing how she was holding the tongs too. It's like, yeah, that's a weird angle to be doing that with.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I don't know what the. How to explain that one. But I think that I. I don't think that I hold and eat the way that Ava does. But I definitely was like, oh, my God, is that me? Am I, like, tilting my tongs weird?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The episode ended with Keanu leaving, and we got everybody go to the crime lab for the final four HOH competition.

[C]

All the crime lab? Yeah, Everyone knows the. The crime lab.

[B]

I'm like, what room is that? And then in the crime lab, isn't that where they go and stab the voodoo dolls?

[A]

No, that was in the sanctum.

[C]

So how many takes did they have to do?

[B]

I.

[C]

This is the thing that plagues me is thinking about how did they do these ceremonies on their knees around the table with voodoo dolls with the people's names on it. Then they're doing the vote openly. And Morgan and Ashley have to raise up this giant pin and say, I vote to evade picked Keanu. And then, like, drop it down. It was so dramatic. How are they not cracking the F up?

[A]

Well, we were speculating that when Vince's groin was suddenly hurting that he was actually being stabbed by voodoo dolls outside the house. Maybe that inspired this.

[B]

Yeah, they saw the tweets.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They were on blue sky. They seen it. They know Asmodeus has been running wild. Yeah.

[C]

Straight face.

[B]

Yeah. No, like, I don't even know like, how they. Like, like, like, you got to convince them, I guess. I don't know. Big brother will have you doing some wild stuff. And this is one of the wildest things. Like, if we step away from it, like, they legit had, like, a demonic ceremony in the house for no reason. Just, like, out of the blue, like, effort. Whatever. Let's do it. And. And we watch it happen. We saw people stab with voodoo dogs. And some people take voodoo very seriously. So I personally, I don't like to play with stuff I don't understand. That's why I didn't send as Modi sent to the house. But ever since he came in, in. We got a little dark this season. I'm just saying.

[A]

Yep. Okay. Well, we got left with our final 4HOH competition. Should we. Should we hit the live feeds spoilers and talk about what's going to happen?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Okay. Let's do it. Okay. And I guess maybe tomorrow we'll do it too. So here. Here we go. The Office of Civil Defense has issued the following message.

[B]

Message.

[C]

This is a spoiler warning.

[B]

A spoiler warning means that an actual.

[A]

Spoiler against this country has been detected and that protective action should be taken. Got my manta sleep mask. Right. I had to take a nap.

[B]

Not tonight.

[A]

To do the podcast. Yeah.

[C]

I looked away for a second and I looked up and I like. I was like, is that a pair of panties? Anyways, we got the late night crew here.

[B]

RHRP After Dark is going down.

[A]

Call me Jake. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, let's talk about it. Final Four hoh. And we got a new hoh.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

New in a way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In a way.

[C]

In a way.

[A]

Yes. It's Morgan.

[B]

It's Morgan. Morgan who has been said faith, the entire jury phase, like the never. They have never had an opportunity to vote this woman out because she. All she does is win. Okay, this is crazy. This is a crazy run. People thought JAG was crazy. This is wilder than that. This is more wild. I'm sorry. I'm. I mean, we. They. We kind of pushed her to it. You know, they were making fun of her online. She said she's gonna win the wall. All she talks about is the wall. Hope she loses the wall. She loses the wall. But she locked in about seven weeks ago and had not let her foot up yet.

[A]

She needed the confidence.

[B]

And she got it.

[C]

I don't know what happened or when or why, but our. Our gamer girl locked in, and she can do it all. I think that that's what's really impressive about Morgan's run is that, you know, she's. It's not like she. She's just, you know, very, very physical and is, you know, against a bunch of people who have. They can never beat her in. In any, like, physical comp. Like, she's really. We've seen her win pretty much every type of comp at this point. And, you know, you might say some of the other competitors, there's some people in there that haven't really been winning much, but she.

[A]

Not.

[C]

She's beating Vince, who has also won a lot of, you know, competitions. He's won four HOHs at this point. We obviously know a lot about Keanu and his challenge prowess, which has kept him in the house for as long as it did with the. With the BB blockbuster. So I just think that is very impressive, the breadth of Morgan's skills.

[A]

Okay, so tomorrow night, we will see the HOH competition play out, see Morgan win, and then do we have nominations.

[B]

For the final four and when. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the. The final Four is Ava and Ashley up on the block? Morgan putting them both up and leaving Vince off the block. And so that's what we're looking at.

[A]

And then we'll have the veto competition live.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, the live veto and eviction, I think, is the same. Is. Is. Is that tomorrow when is that veto.

[C]

Has already been one. I. Yeah.

[A]

The veto ceremony live.

[C]

She still has to do the ceremony. I think that we thought maybe it was going to happen today because the feeds went down for a while today and she's been kind of bit like there's. There's been some drama in that. Like, obviously, you know, especially Ashley is still trying to make a case for herself so that she's not just being taken along and waiting for the inevitable. Morgan, Vince, final two. So she's been kind of working things, but also, you know, Morgan's been in her head a little bit about is Vince gaming her and Vince is also spiraling. And so there's been some, like, hypothetical talk about whether Morgan will actually take Vince to the final two or the final three. She technically has that choice in that she could do something with the veto that she has won, but it has not occurred yet. And I think people. I don't. I haven't. Survivor was on tonight, so I haven't seen what the latest is between Vincent Morgan, but I think we're assuming that she is still. She's still gonna ride with Vince here.

[B]

Well, yeah, well, the chat, of course, is pointing out that Morgan did go ahead and win the veto and so we're gonna get the ceremony and the eviction, obviously, but, like, we're not gonna get the cop. It already happened. But to. To me, like, we. The thing that I guess the most intrigue is that Ashley has been planting something seeds. She realized when Morgan started winning a lot that she needed to start trying to find other inroads to. To get to the final two because she's gonna have a really tough time beating Morgan in any challenges. And we've seen that throughout. So now she's really hoping that Morgan will get a little greedy and look at Vince as maybe somebody who could potentially can beat her and maybe look at Ashley as an easier person to beat or maybe Morgan will not respect Vince because Ashley's been able to sell some seeds where Morgan's been looking at Vince as kind of somebody who. Who wouldn't be willing to take her to the final two. You know, maybe she. He's been playing her this whole time. Ashley has been really kind of going above and beyond to make sure that there's a little bit of mistrust between them and the rift is growing. So Ava's kind of sitting around letting. Nothing like just letting things happen. She's. She's campaigning, of course, but not to the same extent that Ashley is. Ashley is really trying to get in Morgan's gamer brain and saying, okay, I might not beat her, but let me at least get to final two. And who knows? I. Maybe I have a shot as opposed to letting her automatically take Vince and then going ahead and winning. So that's kind of been why we can keep up with the feeds a little bit more nowadays, because it's like there's something there if Ashley wins.

[A]

Yeah. Ashley needs to make sure that it's Ava who goes home next so that she can go to the final three with Morgan and Vince and hopefully appeal to Vince's list. Lizard brain. And that weasel Vince will take Ashley to the end if by chance he wins the final two. Hoh.

[C]

And also Morgan could take like also trying to get into Morgan's head as well and. And put enough doubt in. In.

[A]

Yeah, she can't beat Morgan, right?

[C]

No, not necessarily. Not necessarily. It's not impossible. Like, she definitely has a much better chance against.

[A]

She has. She has friends on the jury who might like completely Ashley.

[C]

I still. I would still be happy to lose against Morgan, then cut. Get cut at three and lose to both Morgan and Vince. So I think you kind of say, best case scenario, I win final three. I get to choose, but let me. Let me make enough other options that I can end up in those chairs and out. At best, I can maybe pitch my game and win at work first. 75K. Yeah. Losing to someone I. I respect or Vince.

[B]

Okay. All right. Yeah. I think Ashley cutting Morgan could be a game winning move. I think that there's a lot of reasons.

[A]

How does that happen?

[B]

She has the win that.

[C]

She has the win the final three.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That would require her to win one of the first two parts and then also win the third part. Is. Are either of those things happening?

[B]

Winning? I don't think it's possible. It's not.

[C]

Maybe not likely. Yeah, look, maybe not likely.

[B]

We saw JC winning champ competitions by the end of. What was that? BB20. You know, like sometimes people.

[A]

JC won the Final Four. HOH. That's already happened.

[B]

Yeah. I'm just saying, like people win competition when you least expect it. Expect the unexpected. Maybe Ashley can pull it out, but.

[A]

She'S got to win two competitions when you least expect it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think that she has a chance that if Vince ends up winning the final three hoh and Vince and Vince. Vince's one last time it cuts Morgan and then happening and then she wins 7 0.

[C]

He doesn't have, you know a status esthetician, a statistician station a superstition would tell him that is a bad choice for you except your second place prod.

[A]

And she did win a video once.

[C]

You after the game. But you know, in Morgan's defense because you know Ashley has, has also kind of gotten into Morgan's head here and Morgan's questioning if like like we said, if Vince has been gaming her the entire time. Which is not the craziest thing for Morgan to think because you get to a point being like this man who apparently has a girlfriend at home of seven years is just risking it all here for me. Like after a certain point you do kind of start saying like am I really. What's the catch here? You're actually doing that. So I have to come to Morgan's defense on like I don't think it's a complete unreasonable thing to start. Start kind of thinking like wait, maybe it's not. I think that Vince truly does have feelings for her. But you know, he's been trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's trying to have two girlfriends. But yeah, she's questioning it and I get why.

[B]

Well, it's his fault because he tries to leverage the things in the game for and talks about how they will impact them outside the game. And so if I'm Morgan, I'm about talking, thinking, are you doing this just so you can leverage this for whatever's happening outside? Like why are you using outside the game to influence me inside the game? And like if outside the game is going to happen, right? If we're locked in, if we're a friendship that is going to last the ages, then you should not be talking about me. Talking to me about what you would do or how this would impact you if I cut Lauren, who you keep telling me I don't have to worry about, it's the girl he keeps telling her she doesn't have to worry about. And every time someone does that, you have to worry about that person. And so now Morgan's looking, looking like, well, it can't just be game and it can't just be my relationship because you're pushing them together and that's not how you would act if you really had real feelings for me. So she has a lot of reasons to think that Vinnie's Going to be a weasel again. But me personally, I just don't think he has it in him, and that's why I'm losing respect for him. If you're gonna be a weasel, be a weasel. When he folded and put Lauren up, that's what. That's when I knew. That's when I knew when he let Lauren go up on the blue block and he. And I was like, he doesn't. He don't got that dog in him. Okay. So he's pivoted. He's trying to get. He got a new dog and he's working on. But the Morgan one that he lost that fight. He's. He's gonna take her to the final two and lose.

[C]

Yeah, but he's. He's gonna lose anyway. Like, this is the thing is, like, the damage is done. His. His biggest mistake in the game is not letting Morgan get far and, you know, like, not taking her out. His. His losing, you know, move is all, like, death by a million cuts. All of the little things that he's done to every single person that he's pissed off in this game. And then also being next to Morgan, who has made a million moves with him, are through him. So it's not. It's. It's like we've gotten to the point where. And like I was saying, you know, it's like getting Keanu's vote is not what's going to win you or lose you the game. It's the same thing. It's like you taking out Morgan is not going to help you win the game at this point. So why would you also mess up that thing? Sit next to her in final to do your best. Maybe you'll get a vote or two and hopefully somebody is talking to you after this game is over.

[A]

You know, there's probably 10 different things you can go back and look at. Like, if Vince did this differently, if it's made this decision instead of this decision, if it's made this decision instead of this decision, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But alas, they all turned out bad for Vince.

[B]

There's only so much you can do when the person that you should be targeting, you're aligned with and they won't stop winning. You know, like, as much as we kind of be like, oh, you're only winning competitions, that's not impressive. It is in just. Just in that, like, strategy has to go through you if you're always in charge and with somebody, like, having a control. Control of the veto or control of hoh, basically every week in the Jury section segment. Like it. Even if you wanted to beat them, you can't get them out. You know, like, you can never target and get them out. So you have to work with them and then you work with them and you have to. I guess you gotta have to go against their wishes while still working with them. It's a very hard, like, way to, like, play the game. And that's why winning is so important. It's not these blockbusters that just save you for one more week. It's getting, capturing power and keeping it. And Morgan was better to do that, like, better at doing that than everybody else in the game. It just sucks because even if you wanted to be there, when were you going to do it?

[A]

I know Vince hasn't lost yet, but I go back to, I think about the week that Riley was on the block and. Right. Correct me if I'm wrong, was it Riley, Morgan and Mickey were on the block at the same time on Rachel's blockbuster. And then Mickey won the blockbuster and then it was a 5 to 4 vote that sent Riley home instead of Morgan. Correct. And Vince was the deciding vote.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Is that right? But that was also the same.

[C]

I don't remember the numbers, but yeah, it was like going into the vote, it was.

[A]

We weren't sure that the judges started. I just, if I go back to that point and if Vince votes out Morgan there and like, I just feel like that maybe the season goes different for him.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, it definitely goes different because Morgan's not there to go win seven competitions in a row.

[C]

He might have a girlfriend at the end the day of it.

[B]

Yeah, maybe, maybe. But. But I, I was thinking about that too, Rob, like, even with the wheel, Right. The wheel takes out Rachel and really alters the game for a lot of people. But if Morgan's still in the game, she's still going to win all those competition competitions. No disrespect to Rachel, but she's probably not beating Morgan in any of those competitions that she won. Except for maybe, maybe Tommy Veto. I don't know. But some of the more athletic stuff, Morgan just had a step on her. She was a little bit more agile. So I was like, the wheel might have, like could taken Morgan out and giving this a different kind of feel. But yeah, I think that's the one. That's probably the last time. Time she was a real target. She ends up on the block in week eight, but then from there, like, she doesn't lose again.

[A]

Okay. All right, let's leave it there. For tonight.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Let's leave it.

[A]

All right, so let's leave it there till tomorrow night. Taryn will be here with you for the final four recap. I'll come in with Mike and Jessica Lease to talk about the Amazing Ride race. But the slop had our last regular season slop of the season when we spoke with Kirsten McInnis on Monday. That was only two days ago. That feels like a year ago. That's how many podcasts we've been doing.

[B]

Oh my God.

[C]

Late September, 8 million shows starting and some still going. So yeah.

[A]

So check us out on Friday from the slop On Friday we'll have BBQ and A one more time during the regular season. That's going to be at 1pm Eastern time before. Stay tuned for Survivor Q and A later on. Check this out. Hey, join, join the club. Okay? No matter what kind of club you want to go to, check us out at Club Condo for Survivor.

[B]

Yeah, you can get a club, a club condo membership with Rob or you can get club condo bottle service with me. But you gotta come and join the Paywall.

[A]

Jenny. We've got every bodily fluid you could think of to talk about for Survivor this week.

[C]

Great. Sage will be so excited.

[A]

Yeah, check it out. Also talked about this Survivor episode with Stephen Fish back on the Survivor know it alls earlier tonight. Check that out out as well as we broke down Survivor 49's two hour premiere earlier tonight. And then tomorrow night I'll be talking about all these Big Brother alumni racing with their loved ones on the Amazing Race with Mike Bloom and Jessica Lease. Of course come on out and see us at one of our live shows robinswebs.com events and then join the group chat over on Chat BCC. Go to robinswebset.com VIP the chat. Jenny, what else is going on for you?

[C]

Honestly just enjoying the chaos of September as as we, you know, get to the end of it. Good birthday plans. Listen source subject Tonight the the Leafs or sorry, the sorry the Leafs got mentioned on Survivor. That was crazy. The Jays lost, the Yankees won. But I am going to see my beloved Jays play for for my birthday later this week and then in two weeks I will be in New York.

[A]

All right.

[C]

The aforementioned New York.

[A]

Yes, we'll see for a busy week in New York.

[C]

Yes. Coming up soon, it's going to be a whirlwind. I'm tired already but I'm ready. You know, I'm excited. Chappelle and I bottle service.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, Chappelle, what's going on for you.

[B]

I gotta find some clothes for New York Rob. I have nothing to wear. It's so close. You can catch me talking to you. Club condo. But also, also on the Nothing But Netflix podcast at Kirsten on we talked about Love Con Revenge on Netflix. It was crazy and we had a great time. So check that out and then you can catch me on my podcast recap kickback talking about the flavor of Love Season 2 with Chantel and talking about seeing her with Mari this week. Coming up, we Mari, myself and Matt Scott, we all we finished our recap of Tyler Perry's Beauty and Black this week. So that should be on the recap kickback podcast as well. All right.

[A]

All right. Thank you all so much for staying up late with us tonight. We got a busy Thursday coming up with all of the Survivor and then Big Brother and the Amazing Race all in one day here on rhap. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Bye.