BB28 Sunday Nominations Ep Recap, Week 4

Summary

RHAP: We Know Big Brother – BB28 Sunday Nominations Ep Recap, Week 4 (Aug 3, 2026)

Main Theme & Purpose

The episode recaps Week 4 of Big Brother 28, focusing on the fallout from Haley’s Head of Household (HOH) win, the chaos around the house powers, and the shifting social and strategic dynamics after a particularly dramatic weekend. Hosted by Rob Cesternino, with live feed insights from Taran Armstrong and guest Sasha Joseph, the roundtable dissects nominations, rumors, the BB Time Capsule power twist, and the emerging alliances and feuds defining this season.

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Episode Structure

• Hosts: Rob Cesternino, Taran Armstrong
• Guest: Sasha Joseph
• Focus: Week 4 nominations, the bribe power, house chaos, and dynamics post-Haley’s HOH win

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power Rumor Frenzy (02:48–09:48)

• Drew and the “Coin Power” Rumor

  • Live feed speculation exploded over Drew possibly acquiring the “coin flip power” and potentially changing nominations.
  • Drew’s odd behavior and talk of a coin spiraled into collective paranoia among fans and feed watchers.
  • Quote: “We get into this cult and then guess what? We’re dead ass.” – Sasha (08:49)
  • D never revealed her power; Drew became a scapegoat for the weekend’s drama.
  • The hosts mock their own overreaction, likening their fandom to clowns putting on makeup.

• D’s Bribe Power: Muddled Twist

  • D is awarded a not-so-powerful “bribe” power: $5,000 to incentivize a specific move.
  • Unlike previous seasons’ bribes, this one is weaker—houseguests can decline, and its impact is limited.
  • The secretive nature—and lack of real teeth—explain why D didn’t even tell her closest ally, Devins.
  • Quote: “It’s like handing somebody a dollar bill in the context of the big brother house… I’m not gonna not target you when you’re my main enemy for $5,000.” – Taran (14:43)

2. Big Brother Time Capsule Issues (18:30–23:22)

• Three out of three Time Capsule powers have gone to returning reality stars (Angela, Rick, D), triggering a debate about fan vote bias and production integrity when veterans compete against newbies.
• Sasha wonders aloud: “This is not looking great for bringing in reality TV vets for the season and then opening up a fan vote to give away powers.” (18:30)
• Taran speculates the edit may telegraph the next winner (potentially Melody), and notes the “America’s Favorite gets punished” risk, referencing potential former player downfalls.

3. House Dynamics, Petty Feuds, and HOH Fallout (27:49–47:03)

• Haley’s HOH: “Hating Ass Episode”

  • Haley’s reign is marked by blatant grievances, emotional speeches, and an assertion of main character energy.
  • She’s fixated on snacks (especially the controversial “sugar-free” basket) and perceived slights, leading to a streak of pettiness.
  • Quote: “If you want to eat healthy, don’t call it a snack!” – Sasha (28:52)
  • Haley’s feuds, especially with Melody, are front-and-center—conflict over personal comments, the leotard/unitard, and who deserves to be in the house.

• Mean Girl Accusations and “Girl's Girl” Rhetoric

  • Haley confronts Melody for alleged “mean girl” behavior, relishing the confrontation and repeating her story to anyone who’ll listen.
  • Haley is keen on the “girl’s girl” image, somewhat at odds with her repeated nomination of women.
  • Quote: “If you’re a girl's girl, you don’t ever have to say it.” – Sasha (43:56)

• Coaching and Manipulation

  • Taylor coaches Lala to throw Melody under the bus—classic Big Brother machinations.
  • The web of rumors and blame-casting gives new life to the social strategy, evoking old-school BB vibes.
  • Taran: “Taylor continues to show some really interesting thought processes… even though obviously she’s still on the block this week.” (39:55)

• Victim Complex & Main Character Syndrome

  • Haley oscillates between self-proclaimed victimhood and self-assured HOH queen.
  • Quote: “Girl, the victim complex… This MFer is not real.” – Sasha (47:13)
  • The hosts mock Haley’s self-justification for her actions, which reads as “extracting vengeance” for perceived past slights.

4. Nominations & Strategizing (53:50–56:09)

• Haley plans to put up Drew (the actual target) and uses Barrett as a pawn, though not everyone is kept in the loop.
• Drew and Haley talk past each other—Drew cracks jokes while Haley remains fixated on threats to her reign.
• Sasha on Drew: “You too messy. Stay out of women’s business!” (67:25)

5. Live Feed & Spoiler Update: Who’s Really At Risk? (57:51–73:59)

• Veto Competition

  • Taylor wins veto, securing her safety and forcing a new target.
  • Initial plans point toward Lala or Mallory as a replacement nominee, but dynamic shifts lead to Lyric being put up—due to both game reasons and personal petty feuds.

• Kamu, Lyric, and Red Corner Fissures

  • Kamu's open championing of Lyric causes a rift; Haley resents being pressured about nominations.
  • Lyric’s position is precarious—caught between sides but not fully trusted by either.

• Drew’s Fate & The “First Act” Conclusion

  • Drew is most likely going home ("the end of the first act" according to Taran (67:37)), as frustration mounts over his lack of meaningful game movement.
  • Quote: “There’s a lot of motion, but there’s really no movement. He’s doing a lot, but it’s not going anywhere.” – Rob (69:52)

• Melody vs Lyric: Replacement Nominee Fallout

  • Melody’s social standing is so low that keeping her is appealing for some, especially compared to Lyric, who’s forging new deals.
  • The lines are blurry; future votes could hinge on current replacement nominee decisions.

6. Notable Quotes & Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 04:01 | Sasha | “Hating ass episode. I’m here. You know, women are just so endangered, Rob. So I’m just. I'm so glad to be here.” | | 09:48 | Rob | “This is it. Listen, it happens to people all the time and it certainly happened to many people in the Big Brother community this weekend.” | | 14:43 | Taran | “This is $5,000. You are in the way of me winning $750,000. I’m not gonna not target you this week when you’re my main enemy for $5,000.” | | 18:30 | Sasha | “This is not looking great for bringing in reality TV vets for the season and then opening up a fan vote to give away powers.” | | 28:52 | Sasha | “If I see someone waste their HOH on healthy stuff, immediate vote from—You know what I mean. Another hating reason.” | | 41:05 | Sasha | “Okay, it’s giving Christmas, but anyway.” | | 43:56 | Sasha | “Haley constantly being like, I’m a girl's girl. If you’re a girl's girl, you don’t ever have to say it actually.” | | 47:13 | Sasha | “Girl, the victim complex. Oh, my word. You know, like, this MFer is not real.” | | 66:51 | Sasha | “Currently, I think they all know that they're mutually beneficial because the icons, I think, are the glue that are gonna just somehow drag this to the end.” | | 69:52 | Rob | “There’s a lot of motion, but there’s really no movement. He’s doing a lot, but it’s not going anywhere.” |

7. Closing Thoughts & Future Speculations

• The edit may be telegraphing who the next BB Time Capsule recipient will be (hint: Melody).
• Drew’s presumed eviction would significantly reset house dynamics, giving rise to new power struggles and strategic era.
• Live feeders and casuals alike are encouraged to keep watching the edits and feeds for clues to upcoming twists and fractures in alliances.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Introduction / Powers Frenzy: 02:48–09:48
• BB Time Capsule & Vet Power: 18:30–23:22
• Haley's HOH / Petty Feuds: 27:49–47:03
• Nomination Conversations: 53:50–56:09
• Live Feed Spoilers: 57:51–73:59

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Tone & Style

The discussion is irreverent, self-deprecating, and delightfully petty—reflecting the messiness of the house and the fandom. There’s a camaraderie and joyful exasperation among the hosts as they swap hot takes, laugh at their own overinvestment in house rumors, and bemoan the fate of their favorites and “haters'” icons alike.

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For Those Who Missed The Episode

This recap gives you the full flavor and the drama: a HOH reign built on personal beefs, a power twist barely worth having, chaos over potential powers, and a house divided between icons, newbies, and ultra-messy social climbers. You get the big moves (or lack thereof), the brewing conflicts, and a keen sense of why fans are both loving and hate-watching this season. All the key strategic and emotional storylines are represented, punctuated by the podcast’s signature humor and inside-joke-laden banter.

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Summary compiled by RHAP: We Know Big Brother expert podcast summarizer, covering all main strategic, social, and fandom narratives for Week 4.

Transcript

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[Rob Cesternino]

Coming to you live from my apartment, it's Rob has a podcast. And now here's the guy who is here for the drama, who is here for the games. I'm Rob Cisternino. Hello, everybody. Welcome back. Sunday night, Big Brother, weird weekend of Big Brother 28. We'll talk about what happened, what didn't happen, and so much more. Here with a man who is here getting exasperated over things that aren't even happening. It's Taran Armstrong. Taran, how are you?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Rob, sidebar. I've got $5,000 for you.

[Rob Cesternino]

Oh.

[Taryn Armstrong]

If we pretend. I never doubted that D had the power. You stood on that ground

[Rob Cesternino]

on Saturday.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Delete the clip. $5,000 bet.

[Rob Cesternino]

I'm in. Yes.

[Taryn Armstrong]

All right.

[Rob Cesternino]

And I'm so excited to be here to talk about this episode with this person, because this was the night of haters talking on Big Brother. And so it's so great to have Sasha Joseph here. Sasha, how are you? Yes.

[Sasha Joseph]

Hating ass episode. I'm here. You know, women are just so endangered, Rob. So I'm just. I'm so glad to be here.

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[Sasha Joseph]

Can't wait.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right. Excited to talk about everything that's going on. On a night where it was Haley's hoh, we got to see a lot of Haley's airing of the grievances with the other house guests, which was fun to see on the episode on maybe not such a fun outcome of the hoh. And I'm sure we're going to talk a lot about the power and what everybody thought was happening and a real. A real, you know, curveball, ultimately in the episode. So I guess let's. Let's go there first, because I think that there is certainly more meat on the bone to talk about the powers. And it really started on Friday afternoon where there started to be some speculation. Nobody came out with Power of Boy. Drew is acting weird and he starts talking about a coin. And this is. I would. This is from the live feeds, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's spoilers, but Drew's acting weird and he starts talking about a coin. All of a sudden, Taryn and the Internet ran wild with the idea that Drew has the coin flip power and is going to change the nominations.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah. And it's. It's really.

[Rob Cesternino]

It's.

[Taryn Armstrong]

It's like. It was a little bit like that, like, elevator thing where if everyone stands Backwards. Eventually, because the evidence was right in front of us. The D thanked the cameras, thanked America to the cameras. But Drew was saying that was something about a coin. And. And so initially, too, it was kind of like it was a little back and forth. It's like, well, there's. There's reason to believe D. There's reason to believe Drew. But then last night, things got even more lopsided because Dee outright denies that she has anything to Devins. And Drew starts talking about a plan where he's going to nominate certain people, but it won't look like he's doing it at first. It's a really stupid, really funny plan. He can't stand it, and it just all fits exactly. Plus, with D denying it, it was like, all right, things are really starting to lean in this direction. Not to mention the fact that tie that into the very real attitude he had in tonight's episode where he says, I'm good. I can throw this hoh when he really shouldn't. It's like it kind of tracks that he might be the kind of guy that has a coin in his pocket and didn't flip it.

[Rob Cesternino]

Sasha. Friday night, I was glued, waiting for the feeds to go go down and for Drew's new nominations to come up.

[Sasha Joseph]

Listen, with a newborn, all I have is time. So I'm looking. Oh, y' all are telling me it's Drew. It's Drew. I said, got it. I can sleep good tonight. We're. We're making it work. We're making it happen. And then the dragging of Drew, baby. Like, Drew deserves to come out of this house and, like, really get each and every single one of us, you know, face to face and just read this hoh. No, I don't care. I don't care. You. We. We cannot Monday morning quarterback him.

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[Sasha Joseph]

Yeah, that was that dumb, obviously, but. Nah. The way people were like, this dummy,

[Rob Cesternino]

this idiot,

[Sasha Joseph]

me included. I. I'm including myself. Let's be clear.

[Rob Cesternino]

You know what? I'm still mad at him.

[Sasha Joseph]

That was the funniest. Didn't Sam right. That he's so mad Drew didn't use it.

[Taryn Armstrong]

It's like he did something in a dream to us.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes.

[Sasha Joseph]

You cheated on me in my dream, guys. If you know, you know.

[Rob Cesternino]

Mm. Yeah. So, yeah. This is wild. And even into Saturday where. Okay, they're gonna. That. This is very late. They're drawing people for the veto. No, this is way later than normal that they're gonna. When Haley goes to pull the chips out of the bag for the veto. It's going to actually be the coin of destiny is in there. And then she's gonna have to change the nominations then. And really to through the weekend where it's like, okay, well, that this idiot had it and didn't use it. Can you believe it?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I couldn't.

[Sasha Joseph]

Because he didn't. Baby. No, I'm just kidding. But I. This is what I love. This is why Big Brother exists. You know what I mean? Because we do dumb stuff like this online and we go into a mass hysteria. We get into this cult and then guess what? We're dead ass.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, we.

[Taryn Armstrong]

We have become the Angela.

[Rob Cesternino]

He's. He's walking around, he's. He's up to something. He keeps talking about this coin. He definitely has it. He's gonna use it. We know it.

[Sasha Joseph]

Like, we are so sketched out by this guy and he's just living his life. And you know what? Maybe he's trolling us. And you more house guests do this, do more of this stuff, troll us. Because this was so funny. I'm sorry. I just could not stop laughing at myself. Like, you know the, the meme of putting clown makeup on, like that was fun.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes, this is, this is it. Listen, it happens to people all the time and it certainly happened to many people in the Big Brother community this weekend.

[Sasha Joseph]

And you know what? We also shout out to D for not spilling the beans.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Sasha Joseph]

Because we always want that on Survivor. We want that on Big Brother, blah, blah, blah. But you know, they always yapping, always doing too much. And this is why she won a million dollars.

[Rob Cesternino]

Well, let's talk about the D aspect of it because I think it's worth discussing where Rick Devins got the power. Only told D. Going to tell my number one that I, I have this power. We're not telling Angela. And it seems like they're really locked in. They have a code where that if they, if they D gets the power, they're going to have a code word and it's going to be a thing between the two of them. So Taryn D. Does get the power. It's not even the power that we thought might be the most powerful power she could have. Why doesn't she tell Devin's she can bribe somebody with $5,000.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think this is actually the other side of it because our understanding of what these powers were didn't really incline themselves to the idea that you wouldn't tell anybody. Like the only power that maybe you wouldn't say outright is the coin. But even that's so easily Traceable back to you that, like, why wouldn't she tell Devins? Well, it turns out this bribe power is a lot different than what we assume.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes.

[Taryn Armstrong]

The fact that it's good until the end of the game, not just five more weeks, and. And that it's not just guaranteed safety and that it can be done secretly. All of these factors, I think, lead toward d being like, yeah, I don't need to. I think she would have told Devin's about this power if it were Zach's power, if it were something that publicly happened, if it were any of the other powers. But the fact that she gets to keep this to the end of the game is like, okay, by the end of the game, Devin's might not be on my side anymore. If this was only good for five weeks, yeah, we're good for five weeks. But by the end of the game, I can do this secretly. I can do whatever I want with it. That's a whole different story. And I think that changed the calculus and ultimately was why she didn't tell him.

[Rob Cesternino]

Well, I did think it was the BB bribe that we saw Zach have last season, which I. If I recall correctly, I believe that he got $10,000 in the opening night challenge where he saved Julie and then hit the fortnite emote. And then he also could give up his $10,000 and use that as a veto. Correct. Is that. That's what his power. And then he was on the block and chose not to use his. Not to fork over his $10,000. Or I think he had to give the HOH $10,000.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

And then. But. But they couldn't turn it down.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Exactly. And that's the key part, that they could not turn down the bribe. It wasn't a real bribe. It was just a power away. This, on the other hand, according to the wording that it seems to be to be using, it says any house guest that accepts the bribe must perform the action. Meaning they can just turn it down. Meaning this power isn't very powerful.

[Rob Cesternino]

It's not very powerful. Yeah. Sasha, what can you buy for $5,000 in the big brother house?

[Sasha Joseph]

You know what? Hopefully some sense.

[Rob Cesternino]

I don't know, like, with somebody. Like, if this was like a pivotal vote, maybe if a person is sort of like, okay, I guess I don't care either way. I do. For $5,000. But would somebody make like a huge game move for just for $5,000 if they didn't think it was a good move?

[Sasha Joseph]

I feel like d can convince people to jump off A cliff. You know what I mean?

[Taryn Armstrong]

So just need the 5K.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Sasha Joseph]

No, she. She doesn't need it. That's what I'm saying. So even more reason to give it away and get someone here' thing. If that veto. I forget what it's called. Right. Where you can win a bunch of gifts and things like that and you're like, oh, I want. Yeah, the swap. Yes. Thank you. So what if she take. Someone got taken from and they're pissed as hell, but they, you know, still have some kind of power. I'm, I'm.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Sasha Joseph]

You know, conspiracy. Guys, please. And she says, great, I got you. I can actually give you 5,000 and how about you help me out?

[Rob Cesternino]

She's creative. I'm sure she could do something with it. But Tara for $5,000 is like I like in this economy.

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[Rob Cesternino]

But it's. It's not like, are people going to do anything that's going to be that crazy for $5,000?

[Taryn Armstrong]

No, absolutely not. There's no, like, if, if somebody is like, D is my enemy in the game. I need to evict her this week. D's getting backdoored and then D goes, what would you say to this? It's. It would be like handing somebody a dollar bill in the context of the big brother. I was like, this. This is $5,000. You are in the way of me winning $750,000. I'm not gonna not target you this week when you're my main enemy for

[Sasha Joseph]

$5,000 for free on this damn show. You know what I mean?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Now I do. I do think there are some uses. The first thought I had was, hold on. It says the bribe must be for a gameplay move such as nominating or not nominating specific people, using or not using the veto. Voting a certain way. Throwing a competition. Throwing a competition is ridiculous. Hey, I'll give you $5,000 to not win this competition. Why do you not want me to win this competition? Hold on. What do you mean? You know what I mean. Like, why would somebody. But voting a certain way is interesting. I would be very curious to know if I were D, can I bribe for a jury vote?

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Yes.

[Taryn Armstrong]

That would be valuable.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Something that people would actually accept.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. So Taylor also is on chat BCC earlier tonight and it is interesting because ultimately, Sasha, what do you.

[Sasha Joseph]

Who do you.

[Rob Cesternino]

What do you care who's going to win? Yeah, I mean, $5,000 and the other person wins. What do I care?

[Sasha Joseph]

Integrity, honesty. You just have to get the right person. I think 5,000 could definitely sway somebody that maybe has nothing to lose. And here's my question. I tell you I voted a certain way and if I don't, production is going to interfere.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think it just forces you. I think you go into the diary room and Julie says, so we know which way you're voting.

[Sasha Joseph]

Oh, okay.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Throwing the competition is maybe a little stranger, but I think they would just invalidate your win if you want it because you.

[Sasha Joseph]

If I suck at comps anyway, let me get a quick 5k out of it.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Exactly.

[Rob Cesternino]

I wonder if it could come up in a situation where we had. You know, this season has been a lot about the renam for who's going to go up on the block at the veto ceremony when the person comes down, could you get the HOH to go a certain way for five thousand dollar bribe or would that open up to oh, well, why do you want so bad for this person to not go up on the block?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Right. The thing I was thinking was sort of similar to how you'd operate with a diamond power veto. Instead of using it sort of as written, instead you use it as a collaborative thing. You go to the HOH and you say, listen, I'm pretty popular with the audience. They gave me this power. Yeah, it's $5,000. I have to give it away to somebody and I want to give it to you because I really like you and I want you to have it. It's like a bribe power. But I'm not gonna, I don't have like a thing for you to do. So the, the whole thing, in order for you to get it, you just need to do something that we both agree to. So like we can just talk and agree on what you can do and then if theoretically this like gets you in the conversation to talk about to have some influence over what is the task that they are doing. And maybe it's like nominating a specific, specific person and it's like, okay, maybe that maybe they wouldn't have nominated that person but because they had a conversation with you where you had outsized influence because they could get $5,000 doing it, you have a little bit more sway. You get that person on the block. Something like that I think could work pretty effectively but it's. I just can't see it doing anything major.

[Rob Cesternino]

Let's talk about the bit of an elephant in the room here of BB time capsule. Three weeks in, we've had three winners in going into the BB time capsule and they have Angela and then Rick and then D are three icons now it is certainly possible that Jason would have been a person who would have won the BB time capsule had he stayed in the house this week. But nevertheless, the three icons have walked away with the power. Sasha, this is not looking great for bringing in reality TV vets for the season and then opening up a fan vote to give away powers.

[Sasha Joseph]

I mean, I. Maybe I'm delusional because I was surprised that Dee got it. Maybe she was second behind Jason and that's why. But it makes no sense. I'm really, again, surprised. I was surprised that Angela got it. I thought Devin's would get it first.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think it's. It just follows the edit so closely. Angela had by far the biggest edit in that first section, especially with the Jason situation. Then Devin's had his hoh in the big moment. He was super prominent. And then I was tracking last week that D in particular was shown a lot on Wednesday night's episode. Talking with Angela, talking with Devin, being a voice against Kamu in the episode, she was very prominent. So I. That's why I initially thought, like, for sure, D's got this. And so I do think it makes a lot of sense on top of the Survivor fans, on top of whatever else. But now, Rob, as you're pointing out, like, the. The floodgates are open. Like, who knows who could get it at this point? And I was watching this episode and I was kind of like melodies in a lot of these.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Segments. I feel like they might be trying to set melody up for the next recipient here. I. I think that's possible.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. It's interesting, though, and I know you're talking about that there's some speculation that it's Mallory and it's changing the way that people are looking at them. What I'm worried about here is that then the other shoe on this where, say, hypothetically, Melody goes and gets the BB time capsule. And guess what? It's a punishment. And now are the people higher that

[Taryn Armstrong]

it will be like.

[Rob Cesternino]

Like a Derek X type situation of like, okay, America's favorite melody. She's out of here. She's going. We don't want her around. She's too popular.

[Sasha Joseph]

No, don't, don't.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Maybe.

[Sasha Joseph]

No, no.

[Taryn Armstrong]

But like, but the thing is, if you get a punishment, it guarantees that you will not ever have a power.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yep.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Which could be bad or good. Theoretically, it could mean, oh, she's an easy target. But it also could mean, like, hey, we don't have to worry about her moving forward where we might have to worry about somebody like Mallory, who we still think might have one.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Sasha Joseph]

I mean, with the amount of hate, like, everyone was giving each other this episode, you just want any reason to vote someone out. Melody. Here's the thing. Vote for her. Melody. Everybody, please think haters deserve better.

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Thing.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I do think if Melody walked out of the room next week with a punishment after Haley really thought that she did something during her hoh week with Melody, it would really signal to Haley because. Because in Haley's mind, Melody is her bully. Like a mean girl bully. She can understand why Mallory might get a power because Mallory's sweet and she's an underdog. But if Melody got it, I think that really would be like. Like, she'd really have to do some mental gymnastics before she goes, oh, I love Melody too, actually. She's. She is so funny.

[Sasha Joseph]

Exactly. Pie on our hater's face. Vote Melody. Here's the thing I haven't seen, like, Melody is giving, like, old school big brother, right? Where she's like, no, I actually really don't like you. Like, you suck. Right. Basically, we deserve players like this and they should be rewarded for it like this because at the end of the day, it was so frustrating where everyone's kind of rolling over. Oh, shucks. We had to vote out Jason. No, you didn't have to do nothing. You know what I mean? Like, you. You should have kept a comp beast on your side. Yeah. But instead you're. We're giving it to folks that I feel like might not use it. Well, like, if you give it to Barrett, he in the middle. What does he need it for?

[Rob Cesternino]

Who's voting for Barrett?

[Sasha Joseph]

Oh, I seen online. No, all of. And Mallory. Maybe she'll use it for herself. Maybe she goes on a block and, like, you know, things can happen. But again, we should reward hating ass people. Yeah, they deserve this.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Well, you do have to consider the fact that Melody is on the block, as we saw by the end of this episode. And like Jason, you could be wasting a vote if you vote for Melody. So that is another sort of thing to contend with, the way that they're voting or that you're thinking about a vote. So. So, you know, it's. It's tough. And I'm very interested to see. I think this week, more so than any other week so far, we need to be paying close attention to the edit who is most prominent with a decently positive edit. And so far, I do think that in my opinion, Melody is probably in the lead for that. But I do think Mallory is still a potential option. She still remains in the in the conversation, I think with a decently positive relatively present Edit

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[Rob Cesternino]

Let's talk about the Reign of Terror so far which is Haley's ho. She ends up winning the competition. This was a competition that I think originated last season. Fun comp. Not that easy to play along, but we like the costumes. Fun to see whatever set this is.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, I thought it was. I thought it was a good time, I think. Yeah, like I said, it's hard to. It's hard to play along but like you, it's so visually immediate. Who's out and who's in that it's not that big of a deal. Like with any competition, I could use less confessionals, less diary rooms in the middle of it. But like in terms of their normal style, I think it's above average for sure.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yep. Okay, so we come back. Haley has won the HOH and immediately there's some drama around. What kind of snacks would she have in her HOH basket? Taylor is thinks it'll be sugar free

[Sasha Joseph]

snacks relate so relatable. I love snacks and if I see someone waste their HOH on healthy stuff, immediate vote from you know what I mean. Another hating reason. Like people that you don't call it a snack. You know what I mean? Just call it like, like, oh, I'm eating fruit, I'm eating vegetables, I'm eating carrots.

[Rob Cesternino]

It's a sugar free snack. Fruit. That's a good question.

[Sasha Joseph]

No, not. I'm just in general. I'm just saying anything healthy. I don't like it. Don't.

[Taryn Armstrong]

It shouldn't be called I'm eating my sugar free fruit. Yeah, they had to do a lot of work to try to like set up the whole Taylor Haley feud. And the best piece of evidence, like actual tangible evidence they had was Taylor talking about her snacks, Drew talking about what Taylor said, and Lala saying something in front of Taylor and that was anti alien. And it was like, we're really reaching here, aren't we?

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, yeah. We got a lot of petty back and forth between the house guests. We got a retelling of the comments that Haley makes about Melody's body and she really seems to be bothered by that. Melody is just way too perky for the big brother house boy. And if she gets that leotard costume, the unitard, that Haley is not going to like that either. It is very form fitting.

[Sasha Joseph]

I can't wait. And here's the thing, right? The messiest be, you know, it's always a man. And here Drew goes back and forth, back and forth, right? Telling Melody about what other people are, where Haley's saying about her, but then telling Haley, oh, this is what Tate, like all these other people are saying, sit your ass down. You know what I mean?

[Taryn Armstrong]

And you know what he said when he got caught too? He was like, well, yeah, I'm saying that stuff. I don't want her to know I have a crush on you.

[Sasha Joseph]

Don't piss me off. You know what I mean?

[Rob Cesternino]

And it worked.

[Taryn Armstrong]

She. She couldn't. She cracked a smile on it. It worked. Don't let it work.

[Sasha Joseph]

The bar is in hell. No, no, the bar is under. Under the jail. You know what? Let Drew hate campaign back on. I'm pressing unpause.

[Rob Cesternino]

What was the issue with Lala and Haley? And did Haley hear her when they were talking about a chicken marinade and Haley said that my mom uses Italian dressing to marinate the chicken. And then she walked away and Lala said, nobody cares what your mom does.

[Sasha Joseph]

I love that for times like this, I just want it to be known like, I loved this episode. The new school Big brother.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Boring.

[Sasha Joseph]

Everybody is friendship all the time. It's annoying. This is what I. This is why I'm here.

[Taryn Armstrong]

You keep talking.

[Sasha Joseph]

Yeah, I love it.

[Rob Cesternino]

I mean, Haley just. We wondered a lot about that when, when we saw her and she said, I'm. What did you say?

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[Sasha Joseph]

I just need like a punching bag, you know what I mean? Like, we gotta hate on somebody. Did they see Haley and was like, yeah, this is gonna be bad.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Listen, say what you will about Haley, but she was, she was giving, I think, the producers exactly what they want in this episode, which is that, like, you can just tell that she is, is. Is walking through this entire episode of television gracing us with her presence as the main character, at least. So proud of the various confrontations she gets into, the one liners she drops in the diary room about Melody. Like, she really thinks that she's, you know, like she's it. You know what I mean?

[Rob Cesternino]

She is that girl.

[Taryn Armstrong]

And the edit is really happy to be able to be like, well, she's not. And they love that contrast because it's good television.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. So we see Haley's decision making process. But Taryn, how did this night really go in terms of the decision that Haley makes here on what her nominations are going to be?

[Taryn Armstrong]

This is, this is a bit of a strange podcast, Rob, because we usually don't do spoilers prior to the spoiler warning, but that's because normally we can talk about the events leading up to the nominations or wherever the episode ends without spoiling anything. However, in this episode, they have completely misled you.

[Rob Cesternino]

There's.

[Taryn Armstrong]

There's so much else to talk about that would maybe be considered spoilers.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Up.

[Rob Cesternino]

Well, I think spoilers are. We're getting into like, who won the veto. What's going to happen with the, with, with that. But, but I, I think that a. Some cleanup is certainly appropriate.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Okay. Some cleanup. Drew is not the pawn here. Drew is fully the target of everybody on that side of the house. It was discussed prior to the nominations. It was all that they were really, really talking about the whole time. Haley initially was thinking about targeting Taylor and just using Drew as a pawn, but she was pretty quickly convinced that Drew should be the target because Devin was pushing it. Angela has wanted it for a while. And so the idea is that they're trying to convince Drew that he's a pawn. But in reality, despite what is being told to you in the diary Room after the nomination ceremony. Drew is firmly the target and firmly will be voted out in any scenario that he stays up on the block on Thursday.

[Sasha Joseph]

I mean, women are under threat. Taryn, what do you mean? Haley is a feminist, okay? She only put up two women instead of three. Duh. Drew's the target.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Two thirds.

[Sasha Joseph]

Girl, get out of here. Like, you know what a melody. Get back in there. Come on. One more.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

There's a lot of other weird stuff in this episode like the them showing the flashback of Devin's blowing up on Drew. That wasn't about the vote. That was about Drew saying that he loved dropping the red corner name in casual conversation. And it wasn't as intense as the edit made it out to be. It was a lot more playful, obviously, though serious, but. But it was more playful because it wasn't about, like, how dare you bring up possibly voting for Mallory to stay. It was, what are you doing? Dropping red corner around the house. There were lots of little moments in this episode like that that were just like. Like really just completely kind of changed the. The overall tone and meaning of a scene, which I. They normally don't do all that often.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah, I think this was a tough episode to put together in terms of what they had for. We even got a Haley's hoh room reveal, which is not a staple of the show. I'm not sure if we've even had one yet this whole season. And Sasha was also that Haley could drop her speech about how if you talk crap about her and you can't stay in the room and you can't eat her snacks.

[Sasha Joseph]

See? And she really thought she ate it. You know what I mean? Like, she was like, look at me, I'm killing it. I'm such a bad be girl. All. You know, this is the problem. Haley can only give us like a finite amount of energy. And I think she used it all in telling Devin's what she's gonna do because when it was showtime, embarrassing. You know what I mean? Like, it was like the balloon, the air just. Yeah, you got let out. And I lala laugh laughing in her face.

[Rob Cesternino]

She was kidding.

[Sasha Joseph]

Something more relatable, you know, because I. I said I. That would be me. Like, first of all, I'm getting voted out first because I'm laughing in your face. And like, Haley read the room. She really. Oh, if you're gonna not eat my sugar free snacks, get out of here, girl. Nobody wants it. We just don't want to be nominated.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think the thing is that, like, if Kamu was trying to be Dan Geesling at the tea party. The problem is that Haley was trying to be Kamu in her hoa. Like, she was trying to be him, but he was already a shadow of. Barely a shadow of something that came before that. And so you tell, too, like, the way that she started the speech, she's like, I'm gonna just like Kamu did when he crushed the tea party. And it was just like, oh, boy, this. It did not go well. It did not land.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Sasha Joseph]

Nothing I hate more than, like, when someone's trying to, like, be a bad beat, and it flopped. You know what I mean? Like, why are you out here making me defend not a woman? You know what I mean? Like, you're making me make fun of a woman, and that's. That's a problem. I hate that for me. Okay, Haley, like, you pissed me off.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. It does seem like that there is the culture of the house where you really want to, as the hoh, really stick it to the. Whether it's the other side or specific people. And Haley was, like, itching and waiting, and, like, finally, it's my turn. I'm gonna really let these people, they thought they could say these things about me, and so this is my chance to let them know where they stand.

[Taryn Armstrong]

These idiots think I'm about to read my letter. They don't even know what they're in for. Like, she really is, like, that meme of the person at the party in the corner.

[Sasha Joseph]

Yes.

[Taryn Armstrong]

They don't even know.

[Rob Cesternino]

They don't even know, girl.

[Sasha Joseph]

We don't want to know. We don't want to know. Pack it up. But pack it up, girl.

[Rob Cesternino]

So I thought that was a really interesting moment in the episode with Lala and Taylor where Taylor is coaching up Lala to go up to the HOH room to go throw Melody under the bus. And I. I do think that this is a fun dynamic where we see where Taylor is trying to coach up Lala to do stuff, and so she wants to basically program Lala to go up there and say that Melody. He is talking smack.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, we saw this play out on the feeds. It was, you know, it was basically like a lot of people were talking about, like, who can we throw under the bus? What I liked about this the most is that. Is that Taylor had Lala do it for her and then didn't really do it herself, which is a much better way of going about it. But what they didn't show is that Haley retaliated without even knowing that Taylor was the one who Brought Lala there in the first place by telling Lala that Taylor was trying to get her out the week before. And then Lala spent, like, a couple of hours being like, Taylor was trying to get me out. And Yash had to be like, no, Haley's lying to you. She actually wasn't. And this is. So there was. It was a whole subplot going on. But this. I like this. Like, Taylor continues to show, like. Like, showcase some really, like, interesting thought processes in terms of, like, how to operate, even though obviously she still ends up on the block this week. That's because she didn't want to try. Haley snacks and looked at her weird, so what can you do?

[Sasha Joseph]

Okay, it's giving Christmas, but anyway.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Not the season, right?

[Sasha Joseph]

No, I love the season. Number one fan.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay, let's talk about the confrontation, ultimately, that Haley ends up having with Melody when Melody finally gets up there, because that. Haley's gonna confront her about this, inject it.

[Sasha Joseph]

I watch that over and over again.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, well, don't worry. Haley will tell you about it over and over again, so just have a conversation with her.

[Sasha Joseph]

Thank you, Skip. Skip.

[Rob Cesternino]

She said that? Yeah. What. What's up with that? It's. It's. It's. Are. Are you just a mean girl?

[Sasha Joseph]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

And I got her so bad. I called her a mean girl to her face. Can you believe it? You only. You only told me about 10 times. She was really excited for this moment. So, like, I. I just to make this clear, she told the story of this conversation so many times, and every time she told the story, without fail, she would have a smirk on her face that was just, like, pure pride in one's own doings. Like, and then I called her a mean girl. Yeah. To her face. Yeah. I can't. Oh, I can't wait for that to make the episode. Oh, it's gonna be so good. But what did you think?

[Rob Cesternino]

Is there a backstory, though, of why Haley is so down on Melody? Like, I. I understand of, okay, that Haley had a thing for Rome, and then Rome got taken from her, and then. Then if she likes Com. But it's. She seems very annoyed. Is it just that.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Is she.

[Rob Cesternino]

Did she inherit the. I don't trust Drew, and Melody is always with Drew and is stealing Drew away from the alliance. Is that. Is that.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think, Rob, you're getting confused because you saw Haley talk to Melody, but Haley has that same level of vitriol for everybody. For the most part, it's. Melody just happened to be taking the brunt of it. In that moment. But like, most of her conversations went roughly similar. It was, she doesn't actually have that much in particular about against Melody. Melody is just somebody who like, hides her disdain the least and therefore takes more of the brunt of it to some degree. But honestly, not even that much more than anybody else.

[Sasha Joseph]

And here's the thing. Haley constantly being like, I'm a girl's girl. If you're a girl's girl, you don't ever have to say it actually. But constantly telling the men that you're a girl's girl, it's embarrassing. And, and as a serial story repeater me, I must say, sometimes if you really did the thing and you're like, no, but I have to tell as many people as I can read the room girl, again, she ate you up. She literally said no. Like I said it. No, you, you know, you take the L, right? Like if you copy caught someone and they were like, oh, I didn't say that. Right. Like doing all kinds of stuff, walking it back. If someone meets your energy and then pushes you kind of out. No, you know, like, don't ever, don't tell a soul. Ask them to delete the footage. But no, instead she like, is really main character syndrome in her head.

[Taryn Armstrong]

She's giving, like holding the phone. As you go viral for the video,

[Sasha Joseph]

you post it, cut the cameras dead ass. Like, that's what like, I'm so, I'm

[Taryn Armstrong]

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[Sasha Joseph]

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[Rob Cesternino]

Tara, how did you think that Melody handled that interaction with Haley? When Haley asks her point blank if she was saying those things about her?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I, she did what she could. She was, she was talking to Mallory today about, like, she was trying to give Mallory advice for, like, what to say to Haley. And she was like, I don't know, you could try to be like, I'll keep you safe, but I don't. You shouldn't ask me. I, I, I'm bad at this. Like, I just told her straight up I didn't like her.

[Rob Cesternino]

So, yeah, she said, who would you put up? And she's like, well, you know, you would cross my mind, you would be somebody that I would consider.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I, I, for what it's worth, I think that Melody being herself in this moment is probably more valuable than her trying to be anybody else, because there's not like, Melody doesn't have the thing, at least enough of the thing in this moment with Haley to convince Haley of anything other than what Haley already believes and so by just doing what comes natural and being herself and saying, yeah, you know what I am, for what it's worth, Melody is not on Haley's radar as a target. She thinks that she's worthless in the game. She can't even bother to lie to her face. Like, she's a nothing there in Haley's mind. Haley's mind. Whereas somebody, like, I won't name any names, but somebody. Some other people that come up to Haley and are actually much better at convincing her and much better at lying to her about, like, what they think and how they feel. Those people, she's a little more sketched out on. So you never really know how things are going to land. But I think for what, for what it's worth in this moment, she played it about as fine as she probably could have.

[Rob Cesternino]

Sasha, what'd you think about Haley saying what a hard three weeks she's had in the house? And even this week, it's going to be another long week for Haley.

[Sasha Joseph]

Girl, the victim complex. Oh, my word. You know, like, this MFer is not real. Like, that's what I was. I kept saying when I was listening to her, because, girl, do you read the room? You know, the. Again. We keep doing this. We're so old, Taryn, that we're like the millennials that are literally sitting here talking about the memes. But you know, the one that puts the. The rod in the wheelchair and then falls, That's Haley. Like, she's just like, who did that? Oh, sorry. Oops. In the bike, not the wheelchair. Delete. Delete the footage. But that's her. She, like, constantly, like, wants to just be the victim so bad. And why own it? She's like, I'm a big baddie, right? Like, look at me. I'm gonna be the hoh. I'm gonna call out my ops. And then all of a sud. They're so mean to me. No, pick a lane. It can't be both.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I mean, it is so perfectly representative of our current landscape that, like, the person in power very much feels like they're being victimized because the people that they're exercising their power against complain about just. It kind of tracks, you know, she

[Rob Cesternino]

needs a motive also to be, like, extract this vengeance. So she has to have. Have perceived grievances of, here's. Here's all the things they did to me. They said this about me. They said this about me. And so now I'm. Now it's payback time, you know, And.

[Sasha Joseph]

And this is the worst kind, because you're on a show about putting people up on the block. What does it matter? Why do we constantly have to sit here and be like, here's my reasons to say I don't like you, you're not on my side and keep it moving. But no, to sit here and be like, I am just, you know, the victimiest of the victim and nobody had it worse than me, girl. Kim, there's people that are dying out here, you know.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Well, Tara, it's like what you were saying with the kamu and Jason. It's like you did this to yourself. This is your. You did this. It's. I'm not doing this to you. You did this to yourself.

[Taryn Armstrong]

100 yeah, like the you you chose to to make the actions that you did did. Would this have happened to you anyway?

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes.

[Taryn Armstrong]

But you helped me justify it. So your faults. If you hadn't done that, I would have had to just admit that what I was doing was what I was doing. But you, you walked right into. You walked right into it and now it's your fault.

[Sasha Joseph]

Just say she hates my snacks. I I would be like, that is iconic. Let's put that in the BB hall of fame. You know what I mean? Do that

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[Rob Cesternino]

I want to bring in the pawn conversation that Haley's gonna have with Barrett and Drew. We see both of them back to back here in the episode where Haley tells Barrett of how she wants to bring a pawn into this to take some heat off of the tool shed. Barrett says that that sounds like a good idea. He's on board. Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

At this point, Barrett knew that Drew was the option. He didn't know that Drew was the target quite yet, but he was mostly just trying to, like, like, not step into the line of fire, basically, and he very nearly did. This conversation did not go well for him.

[Rob Cesternino]

No.

[Sasha Joseph]

Bless.

[Rob Cesternino]

And then we finally got to see Haley talk to Drew, and, you know, he comes in and, Taryn, you talked about this a bit.

[Taryn Armstrong]

He.

[Rob Cesternino]

He's always joking. He's always kidding, kidding, not kidding. And he comes in and he's like, hey, hey, I hear you're really mean.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Oh, boy. Yeah, I mean this. I mean, Drew and Haley talk right past each other. They do not speak the same language as far as I'm concerned. I don't. I. She probably didn't even hear what he said when he said that.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Sasha Joseph]

Haley loves, hates, fun. Drew is only fun, Kim. Imagine.

[Rob Cesternino]

So ultimately, Yash is off the table, and she tells him at the end, you're good, but I guess that means you're going up on the block.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah. She ultimately did not give him the heads up that he was going up on the block, which is a totally normal thing to do to an ally that you're actually just using as a pawn and for sure is gonna. Are gonna keep safe. So he. He did have a very good idea that he would be up, but he never got caught. Confirmation from her that that was happening.

[Rob Cesternino]

And we were like, oh, he would have played the co. He would have flipped the coin.

[Sasha Joseph]

If he only knew he should have flipped it. And the amount of people that just have gone in on him after they saw the knobs.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. All right, well, let's talk about what happened after that. Anything else from the episode proper?

[Sasha Joseph]

Oh, well, this kind of happened at the start.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes.

[Sasha Joseph]

But they muted Kamu saying zesty. They just said, bestie.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Interesting on the block.

[Sasha Joseph]

And look at why. Why you did that. You know what?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I know it's very strange choice because the only people that would notice are the people that already knew it happened.

[Sasha Joseph]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Like, the only. Like. You know what I mean? Like, the only people that even, like, even, like, knew that. That it should be muted already. Already heard it.

[Sasha Joseph]

Exactly. My ears are fine.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I Don't have by muting it. It's kind of like an implicit it acknowledgment that they thought it was offensive. So.

[Rob Cesternino]

Did not catch that.

[Sasha Joseph]

So instead of, like, doing it, you know, the right thing and calling it out, we'll just delete. Yeah, I just wanted to call it out because, like, don't piss me off, Kamu. And you're not off my list. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, that's all.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right, let's. Now we'll get into everything from the weekend. Just a quick note. Hey, come out and see us at rahabcon, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It's going to be in a couple of weeks. We are going to have a couple of nights of Big Brother in person. Also, the live feed update is going to be in person as well. Plus, yep, we've got it all happening at Rahabcon. Tickets [e-mail] and with that, let's get into talking about what's going on on the old live feeds. Here we go.

[Taryn Armstrong]

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[Rob Cesternino]

Yes. Okay.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Is that the.

[Rob Cesternino]

Is the Melody pump up dance, Terrence?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Sasha Joseph]

Yeah, yeah, I. I like it.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right.

[Sasha Joseph]

I need that. All right.

[Rob Cesternino]

So we waited for Drew to flip the coin. It never happened, unfortunately. But what did happen, Taran?

[Taryn Armstrong]

We had a veto competition. It was a bit of a war ass veto.

[Rob Cesternino]

And I said that war ass veto.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Though Melody did.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

When she did it at a totally unrelated dance. And the veto competition was the. The competition where you drink the poisoned wine. And Taylor came away with the win.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yes.

[Rob Cesternino]

So backup target.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, the backup target. If Drew was safe, Taylor was the intended backup target. Now she is safe. Okay.

[Rob Cesternino]

And as has been the case in the house over these couple of weeks, the. The battle for a replacement nom then begins. So where do we. Are we landing with a replacement nom for tomorrow?

[Taryn Armstrong]

So the very first idea that Haley had, first conversation she had with Devons, we saw it on the episode. She initially had thought of Lala as the replacement nominee. That very quickly changed. Changed to Melody or sorry, to Mallory as the replacement nominee, which was part of the big conversation she had when she acknowledged Drew as the official target. However, something else has been happening, which is that Lyric has been fervently trying to abandon ship from the other side with the red corner has been working on Yash, on Chuck and on Comet, flirtiness and all of that. And it worked a little too well with Kamu, who has just become warrior, a Lyric warrior, her champion in battle. And he, he's, like, wearing her sign, her scarf, or, you know, I don't remember what the things are. He, like, took her favor, and he's wearing it in the tournament, and he's like, I fight for lyrics honor. She shall join the red corner and replace that of Drew. And so Haley's like, like, hell she will. I mean, yeah, I'll take her in, but she's going up on the block, Kamu. And there's a lot of talk about how Haley is now jealous of Kamu and Lyric, and for that reason, she wants Lyric on the block instead of Mallory, despite Kamu's pushing. In fact, almost, Almost because of Kamu's pushing for Mallory to go up instead of Lyric. It's actually gotten so bad that the genuine rift seems to be forming that D and Devins and Angela are very happy to continue to push. And so as of right now, Lyric is the replacement nominee.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right, Sasha, weigh in on Lyric for us.

[Sasha Joseph]

I mean, Lyric is, is cool.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Sasha Joseph]

I can't make fun of anybody's voice. I want to make that clear. So, you know people that have been

[Taryn Armstrong]

dragging her voice at all, huh?

[Sasha Joseph]

Stop it. Stop it.

[Taryn Armstrong]

How do you feel about Lyric? I don't like making fun of people's voices.

[Sasha Joseph]

Listen, because same, you know, like, I also sound like I maybe inhaled helium before I got on the podcast, but I understand, but no, I enjoy, like, and here's the thing. We need more people like Lyric on shows like, Below Deck, where they just be dragging the men, you know, like, just take the men and do whatever you want. I appreciate that. We need her to play more.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Sasha Joseph]

But I don't know if it's actually going to happen.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. I am a Lyric fan. I am rooting for her. But in this current situation where whether it's her or Drew or Melody, I might be rooting for Lyric to go on Thursday. And is she even really with the other side? I, like, I have a feeling like if she wanted hoh, she might, she might put, put the, the other people like Tara. What would she do? Right? She might equivocate.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, I, I, I mean, I think ultimately she would side with, with the giggle girls and in that side of the house, but I could easily see her doing, like, trying to play the middle as much like, I'll throw up. Lala. I'll throw up. Like, like, is it okay if I put Barrett up? Or, like, is it, like, maybe I'll put up Haley with Kamu's backing? Like, I, I, I do think she, like, this is, this is what happens when you find any small amount of success, mess with the other side. It's like it's all a trap to get you to do their bidding while they continue to take out the rest of your people. All that said, you know, I think there's a very real chance she actually does something big with it too. You know, the way that she has talked is very much like, I'm doing what I need to do, but I know where I lie. I know where I stand. The problem is that the longer that her side is out of power, the further deeper she goes undercover her. And, you know, it's like, is she gonna lose herself at some point?

[Sasha Joseph]

Is the question, could she get Kamu to do whatever she wants?

[Taryn Armstrong]

No, I don't think she could. I think that's. But that's only because Devin's can get Kamu to do whatever he wants first. And then there's. There's other people in line ahead of her, basically.

[Rob Cesternino]

Do you think there's potential for. With Lyric on the block, for there to be more of a fissure within Red Corner over what Haley wants versus what Kamu wants?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yes,

[Rob Cesternino]

that's something.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I was not expecting such enthusiasm.

[Rob Cesternino]

Listen, we. Listen, we're. We're praying for a person that doesn't even have a power to use it well. We have very little shambles. We are looking for crumbs.

[Taryn Armstrong]

The question is, what happens if Drew wins the blockbuster between Melody and Lyric? And I think that it's. It's kind of an interesting one. Melody will have Drew as a supporter, which is bad for her, because anything Drew wants, the house will want the opposite of Lyric will have Kamu as a supporter, which will be bad for her, because whatever Kamu wants, Haley kind of wants the opposite of. When it comes to lyrics, Mallory will have to decide. And I think right now she's leaning on the Melody side of things. Wanting to keep Melody. I think Barrett would prefer to keep Melody. And this is also kind of bad for Melody, because the more that that side wants to keep Melody, the more the other side has incentive to not keep her. If they were trying to protect Lyric over Melody, then they'd be like, oh, oh, that's not good. Maybe we want to do the opposite of what they want. But ultimately, I really think it could go either way, because again, the Kamu factor. But also, remember, I keep talking about it because they keep talking about it. The Melody factor. Most of the people on that other side think she's a nothing player, that she's not worth anything in the game. And if. And in the event that Drew comes off the block, they might not want to. To further antagonize him and expose that they want him out by voting out Melody over Lyric. Now, will Drew even put up enough of a fuss? It's a whole other story. But. But there is something here. There is certainly a back and forth.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. All right, Sasha. Okay. I'm in, like, the bargaining stage of grief. You know what. What if Drew just goes on Thursday? You know, he doesn't even really have the power. He's not doing anything. He says he has a plan, but it's not going to work. Is. Is the hatred of Drew just keeping that side together? Maybe.

[Sasha Joseph]

Listen, you need a common enemy. But currently, I think they all know that they're mutually beneficial because the icons, I think, are the glue.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Sasha Joseph]

That. That are going to just somehow drag this to the end. And here is my personal dilemma. Right. Like, I agree, Rob, as always, you know, with you that Drew got to go. I think it's time. Girl by.

[Rob Cesternino]

I like him, but what's happened? What are we doing here, Drew?

[Sasha Joseph]

Exactly. It just. Please. The hater. Let's keep Lyric. Maybe she'll, you know, black widow her way through, make something happen for us. Let's be delusional.

[Rob Cesternino]

More faith in that.

[Sasha Joseph]

Thank you. Because you're. You too messy. I. I don't like, you know, stay out of women's business. You know, stop.

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[Sasha Joseph]

I didn't like the little back and forth, back and forth nonsense.

[Taryn Armstrong]

If Drew. If Drew leaves, I think it's. It's the end of, like, the first act of the season. I think that we enter a new era of the season. That. That. That likely feel very different because this first act of the season has felt. Felt so focused on this power structure and the impending doom that is targeting Drew because of it. As soon as Drew leaves, what do they have to talk about anymore? Because Drew is all they've been talking about for a month. And so I really do think Drew leaving would change a lot in the dynamics of the house.

[Sasha Joseph]

And I just want Kamu to go so that y'. All. I think I can just start rooting for the. The. The steamroll. I don't even care. The underdog stay pissing me off anyway.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. I mean, Drew, I don't want to write his big brother obituary yet. But this was a guy that. They said, it's Dr. Will. It's Dan. He's playing. He's playing the biggest game. Yeah. Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

We wrote Zach Rance's eulogy once upon a time, or you did, at least. And, you know, down.

[Rob Cesternino]

And he stayed, but he didn't really. Yeah. But you know what? I feel like that. But Big Brother 16, Zach was, like, entertaining on a level that drew, with all due respect. Sure. Lovely guy. He's not super entertaining on the show. He's not like. I'm sure. I think he finds himself to be extremely entertaining. But. But he has not been a huge entertaining TV presence. I think that we see the potential. He looks like that he could be that. But to this point, he has not been that.

[Taryn Armstrong]

But, you know, holding him back.

[Sasha Joseph]

Oh, sorry. No, it's just him snitching back and forth, though. Did give us good moments.

[Rob Cesternino]

Sure.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think holding him back.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

But I think the biggest thing holding him back is. Is his lack of actual game movement. I think he absolutely could be a really entertaining character, but he's limiting himself by being so loyal to the vets and not realizing that he needs to do something. Yeah. And I think that's the frustration.

[Rob Cesternino]

There's a lot of motion, but there's really no movement. He's doing a lot, but it's not going anywhere. Yes.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right. What is he planning, though, Taryn? He talks about, though, that he has this plan, this fun plan that you gotta see it next week, and it's gonna be huge. And it's going to be. And it's going to look. It's going to be. And you're not going to know that he's doing it. What is he planning?

[Taryn Armstrong]

He. I think he just plans to nominate the three red corner people. I think that maybe he's thinking he'll throw up like two of them in a pawn and then backdoor the third. I don't know. I have no idea what he could possibly be talking about. When he says it, it will look like I'm not doing it, and then I will. Unless he means that, like, he's gonna act like he's fully team toolshed.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

And then at the nomination ceremony, blindside all three of them. That's actually, now that I think of it, probably what he's saying, but that. So I think that's his plan. He just plans to target red corner the. The three Kamu, Haley, and Chuck. Three of them on the block. And. And that's.

[Rob Cesternino]

That's that now if that happened, Rick Devins would not use the diamond power veto in that scenario.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Certainly not.

[Sasha Joseph]

He better not.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right, so. All right, so a reason to hope for Drew.

[Sasha Joseph]

I mean, that would be fun. I would enjoy the red corner going up. Chuck would maybe finally get.

[Rob Cesternino]

I think Chuck went over the episode. I think maybe he had a confessional in the HOH challenge.

[Sasha Joseph]

Oh, right.

[Taryn Armstrong]

He did. He did have that conversation with Haley. I was like, hey, that's that guy.

[Rob Cesternino]

Just jock.

[Taryn Armstrong]

He's on the show.

[Sasha Joseph]

Yeah, he's in the show. But you know what? I'm not mad like you do you boo. Like, if you're gonna get too close to the end by just floating, go ahead, girl. Give us nothing.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. Anything else of note, Taryn, from where things stand

[Taryn Armstrong]

for what are the. What are the Yash people call themselves? I forget. Yash cans, maybe.

[Sasha Joseph]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Keep track. That Yash who has been on the ride eyes is. Has unfortunately attracted the attention of the eye of Sauron. He has. He has gotten into the ire. The vision of one Angela Murray. And she is already talking about she in her world. Drew is already gone and she's prepping for the Yosh back door because she heard that he said that she could go.

[Sasha Joseph]

Angela, her Karen Ness knows no bounds. Is so funny. Like, I didn't even know yes was doing enough for him to be on anyone's radar. Like, he'd just be there doing nonsense, shouting out DJ Khaled.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Right?

[Sasha Joseph]

Like what? Cut his hair cut and. And you know what? No, Angela, I'm back with you. Just take a razor. Just go. Then send him out. It's fine. Let's do that. Let's have some fun.

[Rob Cesternino]

Let's have some fun. Yeah. Yash really worked a good deal with Haley, where she kept him safe. Wasn't even up for consideration.

[Sasha Joseph]

And it was all Haley saying it to them, mind you.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Do they have much of a relationship, Haley and Yash?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Not really.

[Rob Cesternino]

It was just that deal that she was really honored it.

[Taryn Armstrong]

They all just like, Yash really went from, like, a lot of people not really vibing with him to everybody loving him and. And everybody feeling good about him in a way that where like, them vouching for him didn't set off any, like, crush triggers.

[Rob Cesternino]

So.

[Taryn Armstrong]

So that kind of worked out.

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[Sasha Joseph]

Okay. I can't even be mad, you know, again, crumbs of my representation that I get. So I gotta go for y. Because what else do I got? Guys, please.

[Rob Cesternino]

What. What is the. What am I missing with Yash Cans

[Taryn Armstrong]

I assumed it was like. Like trash.

[Rob Cesternino]

Trash cans. That's not nice.

[Taryn Armstrong]

That was my. I couldn't come up.

[Sasha Joseph]

I thought so too. Is that not it?

[Taryn Armstrong]

First I have to be right.

[Sasha Joseph]

Well, if you are Indian, I feel like you're pronouncing his name Yosh, not Yash. Like, he. Him trying to, like, Americanize the pronunciation of his name is frying me every time he says it. I just want to, like, you know, something in me dies. And then now that this, like, myth mispronounced thing has become Stan, like, and I have to just call myself a Yash. Can. I can't even. I can. Big brother, please cast better daisies that don't get sent home. Like, ov.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. All right. Anything else, Sasha, on your mind, BB28?

[Sasha Joseph]

No, just. What a fun episode. Honestly. Horrible. HOH.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yes. Well, this is a perfect night for you to be here.

[Sasha Joseph]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Rob Cesternino]

Yeah. Tara, anything else you're thinking right now?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think we're good.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. All right, well, let's talk about what else is coming up here on rhap. I told you about Rahabcon. And then over on Patreon, we've got a ton of content coming your way. We'll be back, Taryn and I, with the mailbag this week. You can send your questions in. Go to robinswebs.com BB mailbag. Plus we will update the win odds percentages. And Taran, I sense some consolid, even more consolidation forming.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I do as well.

[Rob Cesternino]

Some tightening of the odds here, and it's looking a little bleak for a lot of folks in the house. Then on Tuesday, I'll be back with Chappelle for another week of the slop. And I've been seeing a lot of slop out there already between what Jason is tweeting about the season and much, much more over on the slop this week. Tomorrow night, we're back with it's the stock watch.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yes, it's gonna be an interesting one. There's a lot of. A lot of things to do and a lot of, you know, people to rate and things to vote on. So. Okay, stay tuned.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right. We'll see how the season rank the season number is doing. Could be.

[Sasha Joseph]

Be.

[Rob Cesternino]

Could be taking a bit of a dip. Then, of course, Summer of Stein on Thursdays. Just had a great conversation with Eric. The Summer Stein is evergreen, even if you don't watch it before the eviction episode. Lots of great stuff there. Big Summer of Stein coming up this week. Be on the lookout for this Thursday's episode In particular. And then over on the Survivor feed, Mike Bloom and I have been doing the Survivor time trailer trip. We're sitting at the timetable and we're going back to certain episodes with iconic Survivor players. And with Sandra Diaz Twine, we rewatched the Survivor Pearl Islands premiere. So check that out over on Rhap. Sasha, what's coming up for you?

[Sasha Joseph]

Yes, here on Rob has a podcast. Check out Dancing with the Stars, the next pro.

[Rob Cesternino]

How has it been?

[Sasha Joseph]

I'm enjoying it. A fun, silly little moment, you know, while we get ready for actual Dancing with the Stars. So it's just, it's a cute little one hour watch where you get to watch some dancing, some drama. Not enough drama. Even though they're all living in a house. I need more. Oh, but, but the next the person that wins this does go on to become the literal next pro on Dancing with the Stars proper. And your friend Mark Ballas is the judge with his mom.

[Rob Cesternino]

With his mom.

[Sasha Joseph]

So very fun. Judging has been outstanding. Matt Liguori and I are just having the time of our life. Check that out. And for, for more pop culture silliness, everything, check out Mess magnets on Messmagnets.com okay.

[Rob Cesternino]

All right, Sasha, great job tonight. Taryn, what's coming up for you?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Live feed update in the morning roundtable tomorrow nights. Find me on my patreon doing live streams of the episodes and the live feeds. That's about it.

[Rob Cesternino]

Okay. All right. Fun Sunday night here. We'll see where big brother goes here on another big Brother.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Take care, everybody.

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