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Every morning, Darren Armstrong talk Big Brother. Looking at the stuff from yesterday, all the drama, all the strategy and silliness from VO to HOH every single season, you know, he is the reason, you know, what's happening, happening. Rob said that he could do it tomorrow. He will do it again. Hello, everyone, and good morning. Welcome to our live feed update for July 21st. I'm your host, Aaron Armstrong, and I'm here to update you on everything that happened yesterday on the big brother 28 live feeds. It was day 14 in the house and there was a replacement nominee. There were new alliances, new allegiances, and plenty to talk about here on my own as we discuss the day on the feeds. So let's get into it. Just. Just you and me. Just me and you. We'll maybe do some questions at the end. There's. There's genuinely a lot to talk about here. As you all know, Devin's is the hoh. He nominated Jason, Lyric and Melody with the intention of backdooring Rome. Oh, Rome. Devin's also won the veto, and obviously we've talked plenty about it. Initially planned to use it on Melody. However, Lyric got in there, Lyric got in there and convinced him instead to use it on her. So that is where we're starting the day that Devins has pretty much locked in on the idea of using the veto on Lyric instead of Matt instead of Melody. We're almost getting there. We're almost getting there with the names, so. So that's where we start the day Devin's telling Rome, hey, I'll be taking Lyric off the block and putting you up on the block instead. I'm sorry, and you're welcome. It was really what was being said there. Rome says basically he's pleased with this result. This is what Rome was trying to get out of Devin's, and he says that Devens will now have some kind of diplomatic deal, diplomatic immunity status from Rome. Now, you know, how. How real is this? How real is this from Rome? It's actually like, who knows? Because the reality is there's still a whole few days of campaigning. There's, like, the different realities of the situation. If Rome is an HOH next week and Devins is not in power and all kinds of stuff, what I will say is, because these kinds of deals very often fall through, they don't. They don't happen. People go back on them all the time, especially in a spot where it doesn't really make any sense for them to stick to the deal. So normally, if you're looking for, like, will A deal really hold. You're probably looking for somebody who is professing a lot in private to their trusted people that they plan to stick to the deal often like, hey, I really, I'm really going to stick to this. I'm really going to stick to this. And even then, it can often backfire. It can often go awry. Rome does tell Lyric and Mallory perhaps, I don't remember exactly who else was in the room. He does say at one point that he plans to not vote Devin's out like next week. But this deal is only really good for like a week. And quite frankly, he. My point is he's not really talking much about holding to it. He is, is when he's talking to Lyric, he's talking mostly about how much he loves her and how good a mother she will make. And we don't need to go any further. So, you know, will. Will Devins actually get something out of this deal? I honestly don't really think so, but who knows? Rome does apologize to Haley kind of a long time coming. He had, he had planned to do this for a while and they hadn't really had a proper conversation about it. She also apologizes to Rome and then we're talking about, of course, the, the blow up. And she apologizes to Rome saying that she is sorry that she said he had small balls even though it was funny. And Rome does his thing where he's like, ah, well, maybe we can work together. Nobody, nobody would expect it. Nobody would expect us to work together. Which kind of goes to show just how again, genuine Rome is being in these potential conversations. The meantime, Lyric is still working on D acting as though she is broken up with Rome or at the very least is trying to distance herself from Rome. If it's confusing to you what the status of like the public perception of a breakup is, that's fair. That's. That's kind of the status of it in the house. Way more people than should. Way more proof than there should be believe that this is true and have believed that it's true for far too long. Lyric talking to D and D giving her advice and Lyric talking about how, like, I don't even know if after the show, like, because D's like, we'll wait until after the show maybe because there won't be things getting in the way. And Lear's like, I'm not even sure about that. And, and all kinds of stuff going on there. But for the most part, by this point in the game, especially by the end of the day, most People are very, very aware that this is fake and the ploy to keep it going is starting to fade because the reason to, to, to do the ploy has faded once the veto ceremony takes place. So I think we're, we're gonna start to see this fade over time. That is, that is what I, I think was happening here. Devin's does eventually let Lyric know he will be taking her off the block. She's of course, very grateful. Thank you so much. Oh my God. Devin's also talks to Yash and finally lets Yash in on the plan. You know, this is what, this is what we're doing. Yash is like, wow. Oh man. If you recall, Yash not really in on the plan to this point. Yash agrees to do what Devins wants him to do. He does this multiple times throughout the day. Says he will vote out Rome or Jason if Rome wins the blockbuster. Now Yash basically tells people what they want to hear. However, there was another interesting part of this conversation with Yash which is that he's been talking to Drew and Kamu and some other people and he really likes Drew and he obviously really likes Devin's. And he was, he was actually kind of thinking like, what if we made an alliance? It was me, you talking to Devin's. This is Yash speaking. Me, you, Barrett and Drew, Devin's. Yeah, I could see that. Like, nobody would see that coming. This is obviously an interesting alliance proposition. It's basically Yash proposing to jump into what is in some people's minds, an established trio. Drew really thinks that Barrett and Devins are his people, and to some degree that's true. Barrett is certainly locked in with him. We're gonna have a conversation with them later in the night. But Devins is maybe less invested in this trio or at least slightly less invested in this trio than the other two are. But the, but the point being Yash sort of latching himself onto what is ostensibly already a final three is actually not bad for Yash to have stumbled into like, not, not the worst in the world, primarily because if these three could pull Yash into what he believes to be a core four person alliance, that would be phenomenal for their games, just phenomenal because Yash is somebody who has already now won a blockbuster. And, and if he's going to be winning competitions, if they're not going to be taking him out anytime soon, then having him on side would be great, especially because he's been so slippery in terms of just telling everyone what they want to hear. Now you may have noticed. Yes, he did name three men. Don't worry. That will be commented on in the house. Devin's goes to Barrett and tells him about the Yash alliance pitch, and they kind of laugh about it because it's kind of funny. Drew joins them and they agree, like, let's just say yes. Like, why. Why wouldn't we say yes? Yeah, sure, let's. It's the four Seasons, but with Yash, and it's all men. They also tell D about it. Devin tells D. Drew eventually tells Angela Bar, like, this is this. They tell. They tell their alliance members what's going on. They. They do. And. And D. When once telling D, they. They again, they joke around. They're like, yeah, sorry, D. D doesn't get an invite because she's a woman. Whoops. Sorry, D. So again, just. It's you. Very useful, I would say, to know, of course, that this is the perception here. Barrett does talk with Angela a little bit later. He. They kind of bond a bit. Barrett is saying, like, hey, don't you worry about me. Like, you're not going to come out of this season and see clips of me talking trash about you. Angela, I. I love Angela. And they're talking about, you know, the other people in the alliance. He said, I. I like Drew, too. And he says, I know Drew is loyal, Angela, because Angela does not think so. But, yeah, he's a little Dr. Will. He is a little Dr. Will. You know, I'm mostly because I'm worried he's going to get caught. I'm just worried people are going to clock him at some point. It's going to be bad news for Drew, which, in my opinion, is the perspective that Angela should have on Drew, which is like, this is great. He's out in front of me doing all this stuff, helping my game, and probably will get caught, or at the very least, if I need to pull that cord, I can get him caught whenever I want. But it is what it is. Angela also talks to Rome and he tells her that Jason is the one that told him that Angela was the ringleader of the group upstairs. But he doesn't know where Jason got that from because. And this comes up because he was talking about how he was told that she was the ringleader of what was happening upstairs. Now this honestly, mostly comes by the fact that they kind of just assumed that it was true, and Drew kind of confirmed that it was true. To them, this is like, the one thing that. That, like, Angela might be able to hold her hat on in the future, despite the fact that, as we'll talk about later, Drew is still very dedicated, not only to the crossovers, but to even Angela herself. And. And we will get to a point, and I think we're actually already at that point where, like, if Drew does turn on them at any point, it's no longer like it. We really just have to start to blame them because he is still loyal to them. Because this whole thing about Drew, like, confirming their. Their suspicion that it was Angela, he was trying to also pawn it off to Haley in the same moment. This was not Drew intentionally trying to, like, throw Angela under the bus, in my opinion. This was Drew, like, yeah, you're kind of right. Like, yeah, Angela was leading things. I think Angela was talk. Because she was talking the most. But also, like, Haley was doing a lot. Haley was doing a lot in that conversation. Like, Drew was doing everything he was supposed to be doing in that conversation, in my opinion. And he hasn't even gotten caught for that. That's, like, the one thing you might be able to say he's done a little bit, and. And that's not something that even is known, so. So they have that conversation, and then the feeds come down for the veto ceremony. Things have been pretty locked here in general. And when the feeds come back from the. The veto ceremony, of course, Lyric has come off the block, and Rome is on the block. We did it. We did it. Oh, I love you so much. Oh, my God. I love you too. Oh, my God. Yes. We did it. Yes. Was my speech too much? It was a little too much. You think they believe it? I don't know. So Lyric is now off the block. Melody stays on the block with Rome and Jason, and this is where things are now, ostensibly, how things should go is that Rome is the primary target if he wins the blockbuster. Jason's the backup target. Melody should be safe in any scenario. Well, I say should be, because things are a little more complicated than that. And that's, I think, one of the primary things we'll be talking about today. First of all, it does not take long after the veto ceremony for D to express to Angela. You know, I wouldn't mind actually Melody going this week even over Jason. Like, we could Drew. But even Angela in this moment is like, is that a good idea? I feel like Jason could come after us. Like, I. I'm. I don't know about that. I. I don't know about that. And D backs down, and so the idea is dead. But the fact that D even had the idea is certainly concerning, especially because I want to just quickly take a look at the votes here because while, you know, theoretically the Tool Shed has the votes to do whatever they want and you shouldn't be able to convince Drew or even Kamu that, like, it's okay to take out Melody. And I certainly don't think that, like, Barrett would be super on board with that play at this point. I don't even think. Sir, I don't even think that the Devins would. Would be super on board, although he's been shown to be relatively easily swayed. Really, what you need to do is convince the entirety of Tool Shed, and there are plenty of people that should not agree to it, but it's not impossible. But things get even more complicated once we get through further parts of the day, because by leaving Melody up on the block, they have put themselves in a situation. And that situation is that if Jason and Melody stay on the block, they have people like Yash who has agreed to vote out Jason, but pri. But prior. Prior to that, was kind of hoping that Melody would go. You have people like Lyric and Rome. Rome who would be off the block in a Jason Melody situation who kind of would prefer for Jason to stay. We're not entirely sure where Lyric falls on that scale until later in the night, but let me tell you, it's not looking good for Melody. You have Lala and Taylor, who both also have a good working relationship with Jason still and don't really have much of a relationship with Melody, should certainly want or be leaning toward voting Melody out over Jason. And just like that, you're starting to look at like, five, maybe six votes if Lyric is able to convince Mallory. Now, Mallory hasn't been convinced and probably shouldn't be convinced, but, like, you're starting to get a little. A little dangerous in terms of another split vote house in order to protect Matt. Melody, who shouldn't even be on the block, quite frankly, but it certainly shouldn't be needing to expose yourself in any significant way in order to protect her in order to take out Jason. You just put yourself back in this position for no reason at all, and things get even dicier again as we get through the day. So I'll get there. We'll get there, we'll get there. But I just wanted to cue this up for you as we go through the day to sort of help you follow along. Why there are some problems that are popping up even as players are making advances in their strategic game. So Drew talks to Melody after the veto ceremony and they talk a little bit about, like, hey, Maybe we should start to distance ourselves a little bit. Not in the Melody distances herself from Mallory because she's on the block kind of way, but in the, like, people are starting to talk a lot about us kind of way. Rome has asked Drew about having a crush on Melody. Taylor is talking about the two of them and how, like, well, obviously, Melody, you've got Drew's vote. People are starting to talk like there's a little spark of a showmance here potentially. And it's not just the house either, of course. Plenty of people online are looking at this as well, and so they talk about trying to potentially distance themselves and. And I can tell you it's not gonna actually happen. Despite the intention, they did a bad job. As, if anything, by the end of the night, they're, like, being a little flirty and it's relatively public and, you know, keep an eye on this. In the meantime, Mallory and Lyric are talking about Drew and Melody. Oh, Melody needs a showmance with Drew so that she can pull him to our side. That would be great. And Lyric says to Mallory, and you should get one with Barrett. Mallory's like, no, no, no. You don't think. No. I mean, I could try, but no, no. Do you? No. Mallory does say that she is still a little bit concerned. She's a little bit apprehensive about Barrett because of him lying to her previously. I think pretty clearly she has a little bit of a crush. It seems to be the case based on what she's saying. Doesn't really think it's possible, but, you know, when you get encouraged, you start to think maybe it's possible. But also, he outright lied to her about the meeting up in the HOH room. She's very concerned about where he actually stands in the game and so not really sure where to go with it. Sorry. Somebody in the chat said, bit of a pipe dream. I don't even know if they meant it to be a play on Pipe Queen, but, boy. So Angela, D and Taylor have a bit of a conversation. And this is an important one, I think. Could be an important one, because as they're talking about the vote, this is Angela, D and Taylor, they're talking about the vote. They're talking about, like, Rome is gonna go. They all kind of agree. Rome is probably the person that they would potentially vote out. Angela proposes to Taylor, hey, we should work together, don't you think? Us three, Me, D, you, Taylor and Lala. Do you think we should work, maybe work together? And Taylor's like, yeah, I think There's a great idea. I, I'd be down for that. And this is something that, that Angela and D, of course, we're talking about a little bit that I love this for them. I think that, you know, when they spend all their time talking about Drew and is Drew gonna stray and should we target Drew and should we weaken Drew, it does nothing for their game but weaken their own position. What they should be doing, if they have any doubts about Drew is not trying to antagonize Drew, but to set up their own contingency plans to start making more connections outside of a group that relies on Drew. This is a lot more in line with what I'm hoping to see from a player like D and from an experienced player like Angela. This is a great group to form because Taylor and Lala especially now have been isolated to some degree and they're not super active players, which means if you can pull them into something, you might be able to lock them into something for quite a while now. Are they going to be active enough to maintain this alliance? That's another question. That's down to the skill of those players. And is this an alliance that they are actually safe with? Because Lala and Angela have a bit of a storied past. Those are still questions that have yet to be determined. But I do like this a lot and especially I like it because these are great people to go toward the end with. Like if I'm D and Angela. I love Devins. Do I want Devin's in the final? 5, 4, 3. I don't know. He might win out from there and he's a likable guy. Do I want Lala who a lot of people find annoying and maybe is not going to be as good at competitions? Do I want Taylor who has very few social connections at the moment and you know, so far hasn't won anything. I'm. I'm a little more inclined to want those two toward the end. So this is a great long term option for the two of Angela and D, in my opinion. We'll see where it goes. But. But this is, this is interesting stuff for sure. So Angela, D. We talked about that. Barrett talks to Jason. I, I just. There's a, there's a little bit of a snippet of this that I found interesting because we' talking a lot about Barrett and how it seems like for the past week or so, especially as a have not, he's been really sort of down in terms of his activity in the game. He has been a little more active. He was a little more active yesterday talking to Devin about the Yash alliance and working on Mallory more understanding that she might not trust him because of what happened and, and all this stuff. And we see even here he's talking to Jason. He's doing. He's starting to put more work in, which I appreciate from Barrett, though he still has some things to work through, but he talks to Jason about how he loves being here, but he is finding the game a bit draining at times. And sometimes as a fan, he's just like, disassociating and. And this really tracks to me. Of course, we've been talking about it all week long. I think a huge part of it is being a. Have not. I think a huge part of it is probably just like the social overload, it seems. And there's a part of me and this is maybe just kind of going off into conspiracy land a little bit. I think there's a part of it that is like disappointment in the D situation. Maybe this I'm fully speculating here. Please do not take anything that I'm saying as anywhere near concrete fact, but D's going to talk about this later. That, like, they had that one long cuddle session her and Barrett that night. We talked about it and then, you know, he did still occasionally he was like, hey, D, looking really good. Like, he. It seemed like he was still trying to keep that spark alive a little bit. But D, according to her, has, like, shut it down. And I'm wondering if, like, he's kind of processing that a little bit in terms of, like, oh, I thought maybe there was something there and turns out maybe not. But again, that's like, deep speculation here in terms of where. Where, you know, Barrett might be feeling a little bit down on that. Now. Wendy talked about this. According to her, she. She actually used the, the. The thing. If you. If anyone was watching my stream at the start of the season, Taylor said that she was flirting with Barrett initially because she thought that he was not straight. And. And then found out he was like, oops. And. And D actually says the same thing to. To a bunch of the, like Red Corner, Angela, all these people. Uh, she's like, oh, I didn't actually realize that he was straight. And so I didn't want to give him the wrong impression. So that's why I've kind of shut it down. Now. Dee did know, as far as I'm aware, that he was straight at that point. So I don't know that this is true from D, as much as it might just Be kind of like deflecting either strategically or just not giving the real personal reason why she shut it down. But, but, but B is on life support at the moment. Is. Is the thing. And yes, I guess, you know, theoretically just likes women would maybe be the better thing for me to say there. We. We. As far as we're aware, Barrett does in fact like, like women romantically because, you know, people, I guess, should generally like women regardless. Anyway, that's my deep speculation territory. Barrett does have a conversation with Drew and they talk about how. How Devin's. Drew feels good about. About Devin's, where uh, like Drew again has talked with Devin's a lot about the three of Drew, Devins and Barrett being in the core of crossovers, that there's those three and then it was D and Angela and then what like once they got to the five, that those three would be able to, you know, work together as a final three, essentially. And Drew is still feeling good about that now. In my opinion, he should not. Right. His interactions with Devins have been way more awkward than they were at the start of the game. This should be a massive signal to Drew that Devins is. Has. Has strayed from their initial bond. They are not connecting at the same level that they were before, but Drew hasn't seemed to recognize that. And then of course, the biggest signal ever should have been this whole veto situation, but Drew again, seemingly has not really like, taken that in yet as like a signal that the Devins is not quite with them. So in that sense, Devens has seemingly kind of gotten away with it. Barrett, though, agrees. He's like, yeah, I think the three of us are in a good spot. Barrett has again been focused on winning Mallory back over, and Drew proposes that they make final two like an official final two. They talk about naming it later, and Barrett agrees. He says, drew, you're the only person I would want to sit with me. In the end, this obviously makes a decent amount of sense in terms of like, where they're positioned in this crossovers alliance. If they were to go to final five in this alliance, you. You don't really want to sit next to the vet in the final two unless something has gone really wrong for those vets. So they, they agree to their final two and they later talk about sort of like the hierarchy of this tool shed alliance. Drew in particular, who is just really genuinely loyal to the crossovers, is actually hoping that somebody from the other side will win hoh and take a shot at the tool shed because he doesn't love the red corner group. He. He. He wants the crossovers to make it to the end, but he actually. He would love it if a shot got taken at these, cross at these. At these. The red corner people. He does not want to go to final eight with all three of Haley, Chuck, and Kamu. Now, we know that Drew has a sneaky final two kind of situation with Kamu. I'm assuming that. That in his mind, he would be hoping that the shot gets taken at Haley or Chuck, in part because that would give Kamu fewer options moving forward and force him to rely on Drew a bit more. So obviously, this is pretty heavily in Drew's. In Drew's interests. Barrett kind of agrees with him, though. Like, he wouldn't mind Red corner taking a hit here. And. And, you know, before you start to think, well, Barrett did call drew A little Dr. Will, is that. Was that maybe him trying to put a target on Drew to Angela? I don't think so. I think he genuinely meant it, like, playfully, because he says it to Drew's face as well. He's like, you're like Dr. Drew. Get it? Dr. Dr. Drew. Barrett tells Drew the. The list of his priority. His priority list within the crossovers. He says Drew's number one, Devin's is number two, Angela's number three. D is number four for Barrett, which, again, interesting list. And they specifically talk about Angela. And Drew says that he has no intention of betraying Angela. He fully thinks that Angela is riding with them and wants to ride with her. And again, I mean, you know, this is good information in terms of, like, the positioning that Drew has or thinks he has and the. The intentions that Drew has, but it's a bad read from Drew. He, of course, does not have Angela in any sense. Not only is Angela talking about wanting to nominate Drew as a pawn, but later on, she's going to talk about. She's already fantasizing about how later in the game, she's gonna backdoor Drew. She's gonna give a big, dramatic speech, and it's just like. Drew does not see it yet. We'll see if he eventually does, but he. He very much like. Likes Angela, wants to ride with her, and seemingly has no intention of betraying her at this point in the game. So we'll keep tracking how long that lasts over time. Drew and Barrett do talk to D. And. And Drew talks again about sort of like, yeah, I don't know if I could date Melody. But again, kind of falls flat in terms of convincing because he does admit that, you know, she's she could be like his type and, and all this stuff. And, and you know, I think the excitement of this is too enticing for. For really the two of them, the both of them to actually commit to. To, you know, they're no, they're no Roman Lyric. You know, they. They can't commit to. To trash talk. Teases Barrett about Mallory. You can start to see where I'm coming up with my speculations, like, oh, well, Barrett, what about Mallory? How you feeling about Mallory? And Barrett's like, no, no, there's not anything there with Mallory. There's not anything there Mallory. So speaking of Mallory, she is talking with Melody and, and the two of them, you know, Melody in particular is. Is kind of like, well, what did Lyric promise Devin? Like, I was up there promising him a lot. Like, what could Lyric have possibly promised Devin? And, and Melody kind of knows maybe she forgot. But, you know, Devin's basically told her it was. It wasn't just lyrics pitch. It was the fact that Lyric came with Rome that was so enticing to him. So this is either Melody again, like not really remembering that part of the conversation or maybe intentionally being like, freaking Lyric. This is where also Angela is going to talk to Devins and tell him about her fantasies about backdooring Drew. Devin's does, I wouldn't say stand up for Drew. He does say he is wary of him, but. But Devins does bring up. He says, you know, I don't know that we should backdoor him in the future. And to be clear, this is like down the line, not like next week where she talked about wanting to use him as a pawn. This is a separate incident. This is like Angela has won HOH next week, used Drew as a pawn, and then many, many weeks later, one hoh again and backdoors him with a dramatic speech. This is what Angela's spending her time thinking about. And, and Devin says, I don't know that we should get rid of Drew. I feel like he is a great person to bring to the end because the jury's bound to feel betrayed by him with all of the connections that he. That he currently has. And Angela disagrees. She says, nah, this is not Survivor Big Brother. Juries are different. They're not going to be mad at Drew like that. And of course, Angela experienced Chelsea. So I think she's coming from a place of. Of knowledge here. And, and I, and, and I don't disagree with her in that sense. I think, you know, similarly, like on Survivor, having as many connections as Drew is seen as way more sketchy than it is on Big Brother. It's more expected on Big Brother to have as many connections as you can. So. So Big Brother, I think, has a little bit more leeway for. For the amount of game that you can play. Not to say the Big Brother juries aren't bitter at times as well, but. But specifically for Drew's kind of gameplay, I don't think that. That it's gonna. That it has the same impact as it does on Survivor. I do agree with Angela here. Yeah. People in the chat mentioning Vince, of course, Vince wasn't burned because he had too many connections. Vince was burned because he just never stopped lying to them and gaslighting them even after getting caught and, you know, just could never own. Well, it's not that he didn't own it, but like, he just. He just could not stop trying to lie to them and, And. And make them feel foolish. It's very different. Right? Like, if you. If you work with many people and. And people talk about Tyler too. They talk about, like, oh, well, Tyler had too many connections. I've been on the record about this many, many times that Tyler did not lose because of all of his final twos. Tyler got the votes of all of his final twos. He lost because of the votes of the people he didn't connect with and didn't make those deals with. So anyway, Rome is going to talk to Taylor because Rome is on the campaign trail. Rome is on the campaign trail. He genuinely thinks he has a shot to. To stay with the votes if it comes down to it, if he doesn't win the blockbuster, but he plans to win the blockbuster. And when he talks to Taylor, he's talking about, like, you know, trying to get her her vote and. And she kind of lets him know, like, hey, just, you know, I've been hearing that anybody sitting next to Melody gets evicted and he's like, oh, that's. I don't know about that. I don't know. Rome has talked to Lyric about the Melody situation. They feel like they could get the votes, but Drew is the problem because obviously Drew would be vote for Melody, but they still think it's doable, and it hasn't sort of pinned them against Drew in any significant way. I. I'd be curious because again, I think that Rome feels he really still has the backing of some people that he just doesn't quite at this point. So I think the. The more Rome recognizes his dire status in the house, if he does eventually start to recognize it with people like Taylor trying to clue him in on it, the more we might start to get a heavier campaign from him. But for now, he's feeling relatively comfortable, which you really shouldn't. Haley, D and Angela talk for a bit. And this is another thing I'm gonna put a little flag on, because Haley kind of doesn't want Jason to go. She's. She's happy to vote out Rome, which because that also means that Jason stays. But she also doesn't love Melody. She's been completely talked into not trusting Drew by D and Angela and loves the idea of weakening Drew. Like, they have sort of convinced her into thinking, but also just, like, doesn't really want Jason to go. She's been having conversations with Jason. Jason is basically. You've been doing his pitch of I'll be your minion kind of thing. He's been doing it on Haley, Angela and Devin's primarily. And Haley's been sort of swayed by. By parts of it. And so she actually pitches to Dee and Angela. This could have been very, very dangerous in terms of flipping this vote. She says that she's been thinking maybe they should evict Melody. D and Angela both shut this down. Remember, Dee pitched it to Angela briefly. Angela shut it down. Then Haley pitches it to Dee and Angela. They both shut it down. So, you know it's out there. There are multiple people in this group that are thinking about this, and even though it's being shut down now, that does not mean that it will continue to be shut down. But for now, it was shut down. Just keep in mind that if that knowing that Haley is down for this could really embolden D to push harder, Angela and her fantasies about backdooring Drew could start thinking about that, plus her desire to potentially work with Jason in the future if he can keep working on her. If all three of these people start to think about this, then they might feel like they have enough push to maybe try to grab Devin's. And once they've got Devin's, now all of a sudden they've got some more push. Maybe Haley can try to pull Chuck and the. The ball can start to roll. And further than that, remember what I queued up before the vote situation where Melody already doesn't have a ton of votes from the other side against Jason and the eviction vote, given that Angela and Dee are trying to start this alliance with Lala and Taylor, what happens if Lala and Taylor and I'm not saying this will happen, but what happens if they recognize we can keep Jason next to Melody? We want to keep Jason next to Melody and we can do it because the votes are there. We have Rome, we have Lyric, we have, you know, whoever else. And all we need, D and Angela, are your two votes. You're in an alliance with us now, right? You gonna vote with us? Obviously they can't unless they have the backing of their entire alliance. What if they fail to get the backing of their entire alliance? Maybe they don't even want it now. They've created this alliance, but they're not able to vote with the alliance at the very first vote. And it, it wrecks this four person group that was so, so great for them. I don't like that. And it's another reason why I don't like Melody on the block because it would be so much easier to navigate this situation if Lyric were on the block. They would not find themselves in a situation where they need to expose themselves in a vote to protect Melody, who they don't even have a relationship with at this point. They shouldn't have to protect Melody, but they kind of need to vote out Jason for multiple reasons. But. Or it might need to even just to like blend in with the house. They're caught between two potential. They could be caught between two potential sides. Again, I'm talking about theoreticals. And as I mentioned on the roundtable last night, like, it's not like this is game ending stuff necessarily. It's just there are so many things that this move, the veto move, has opened themselves up to that they have opened themselves up to with this move that could potentially just completely blow up in their face. It doesn't mean it will. It's just like, I keep finding things that are like, this is another reason why that was a bad move. This is another reason why that was a bad move. Let's see, Taylor does talk to Lala about the Dee and Angela alliance. It's been pitched to Lala now as well. And Lala says that she's down. She's. She said yes, that she's down for it. They both agree this is a good idea that they should go into this alliance. However, Taylor does make sure to mention, like, we still don't really rock with Angela though. Like, we're still, like, we're still gonna take down Angela when we need to. Right? And Lala's like, yeah. I mean, when I talked to Angela, she's like, I don't even expect to win this game. And they were like, great, because she's not. I actually don't think that's super important. I think just getting into this group with them to help prevent them from targeting her or talking too bad about her for a little while is all they really need. It's not like Taylor and Lala are power players at the moment. So if long term they're still looking at Angela, it's not that big of a deal at this point, especially because there's plenty of time for that to, for that to change. But, but I did think it was funny just, just to keep you guys updated on the fact that like Lala is still looking at Angela, at least in some capacity. We get later into the night and, and people are all over this. There's a bit of like some rowdiness going on and there was some sort of, I would say encouraged flirting between Kamu and Haley. Some not quite kisses, but some like, leaned in like, like. Stuff. It's playful, it's like a group setting. But, but again, we're really like, we really are doing a little bit of Love island here on this cast. This is when Dee talks about Barrett as well a bit later in that whole get together, that gathering. So something worth noting, of course, is that now that D and Angela have made this alliance with Taylor and, and Lala, they've been talking with Haley about wanting Haley to win the hoh. This is a big, big topic. All of the crossovers, all the people really in Tool Shed in general have all been like, we want Haley to win the hoh. And even Haley is like, I want me to win the hoh. Haley's like, I don't want Barrett or Drew to have to win because I don't want them to expose their position. You know, I want to take a shot. And who does she want to take a shot on? Lala. She doesn't like her. A lot of people don't like lala. And Haley loves to talk about lala. She loves to talk about taking a shot about lala. Haley likes fantasizing about taking a shot at Lala as much as Angela fantasizes about taking a shot at Drew. Except it's a lot more. It's a lot more short term. She really wants to take that shot at Lala. But now Dee and Angela have just made this alliance with lala and so before they'd been encouraging Haley win hoh, target lala, do whatever you want. But now when she's talking about Lala, D and Angela are like, do we need to take a shot of Lola? Is that the best idea? I actually am not sure. I am not sure about this. Maybe I mean, it's Lala. Worth a shot. He's like, who else am I shooting? Like what, you know, what about like Melody Mallory, Lyric? What about that little crew? He's like, ah, I don't know. Is that worth taking a shot? I feel like Lala. So stay, stay, stay. Looking at this, this is, this is some interesting stuff because, like, Haley is theoretically a pretty likely hoh winner considering so many people want to throw it to her. It very nearly happened this week. It could very nearly happen again in the future. And so this tension of her potentially wanting to go after Lala de and Angela now trying to potentially protect Lala could be something that continues forward. What else? What else? Angela talks with this group, which includes Camus and, and, and many of the red corner people, talking about the, the cookout and how they all have their own people. And Kamu is like, is interested in that idea. Kamu starts to talk about like, yeah, like we can, we can be taking shots that the other people can't. People love to talk about this when they're in the house, especially if they're kind of new to the strategy. Oh, this is a great idea. You could take shots that I can't and I could take shots that you can't. For instance, you guys can take a shot at Melody, whereas Drew and I can't take a shot at Melody and. And so on and so forth. So, you know, just further sort of like reinforcing this whole whole group. Kamu does talk to Haley one on one later, and she talks to him about wanting Jason to stay. But Bakam, of course, is not quite on the keep, uh, on the get rid of Melody train at this point either. But, but Haley hasn't been completely talked out of the idea of maybe voting out Melody. It's just that nobody agrees with her at this point. They do, however, talk about going to the final two together, Kamu and Haley. Haley's been talking to Chuck a lot lately, but the Kamu, Haley, you know, initial alliance slash flirtation, maybe you could call it, did seem to be the stronger one earlier in the season. It seems like that is still probably the case, especially with their most recent rush with flirtation. They have sort of reignited that strategic spark as well. So they are talking about that final two situation. I mean, Kamu continuing to play pretty well in general, especially with this renewed connection to Haley. As long as she remains a target in front of him. That's pretty great for him. And obviously Haley would be a phenomenal person to actually bring to the Final two. Considering how few people enjoy her presence in the house late into the night, Roman Lyric, in between their mushingness, do manage to eke out a little bit of strategy where Lyric confirms to Rome that she would vote Jason to save Stay over Melody, which is just again, further bad news for Melody and further bad news for the crossovers if they intend to keep Melody over Jason because it again means that they might need to expose themselves a little bit in order to make that vote happen. But that is, that is about where we leave off the night here. The main points for me are we have this sort of new Yash Devin's Drew Barrett potential alliance that could be incredibly valuable to really all four of those men. And then on the other side of things we have an all women's thing happening of Dee, Angela, Taylor and Lala which could also be incredibly valuable to those four women if they move forward in the game and manage to keep that together. I don't think either group of four seems super, super invested in making sure that those things stay solid. However, one of those things is currently still relatively secret and the other is not. And that is also interesting to keep track of. But again, those things could be either useful or a pain point when it comes to this upcoming vote. And that's the other big thing happening throughout the day, which is that Melody and her position in the game, especially if she's up against Jason in a vote, is looking still, still okay, but tenuous. There are a lot of people who are willing to vote her out that want to vote her out and the thing holding her on is she's, it's like she's holding on by a string here. It's just like by the whims of Angela not, not agreeing with D initially, Melody has held on, but it's only Tuesday. Like we have a whole day today and we have a whole day tomorrow until Thursday and that is a lot of time for there to be this much talk about potentially voting Melody out already. So, so very much stay on the lookout for that. That is what I am going to be tracking I think most, for the most part here moving forward as well as obviously the rest of this stuff going on. Any questions in the chat before we wrap up here for, for, for, for our update on yesterday, which was Monday by the way. Check out my Patreon. It's great over there. I'm doing live streams, I'm doing, we're doing feed watches, episode watches, I'm watching other shows and, and I very much appreciate the support from the the audience on my Patreon, I, I really, really like am enjoying being there. It's a really great community that we're building and, and I love it. So it's, it's, it's really, it's been my passion, especially in the off season, but I enjoying it during the season as well. So check it out if, if you haven't already. I, I really, really do appreciate those that have and those that will. Let's see. Where would the seventh vote to evict Melody come from? I, I do think that at the end of the day, D and Angela have to be on board with voting out Melody in order for it to happen. So the question is, you know, really like can they get enough buy in from the rest of the group to allow them to do this? And that is going to be difficult, but they do have a lot of sway, especially if Haley's already on board and, and if they're able to, to get Devin's to back down. The real question is like, can they do the opposite? Can they get, you know, Lala and Taylor to get on board so that they don't get in trouble if they don't do it. There you go. Patreon is great. Thank you. Ash, was Angela on the hunt for who said she was the ringleader or not? I wouldn't say she was on the hunt as much as it came up in conversation and she asked about it. So I don't think it's like a major thing for her at the moment. Does D really think that Drew lied about Mallory hating her? I mean, it's hard to say what Drew, what D really thinks. But, but I do think that she is skeptical of some of the information that Drew brings. But, but she is taking it as fact that Mallory's coming after her. Barrett has confirmed that Mallory is still talking about her and stuff like that. So it is, it's public knowledge that that's going on just for, for whatever reason, they're just not super concerned about it where they really should be. Because Mallory, if she wins and she's perfectly capable of winning, has a great chance of just throwing up all three vets, which would be devastating for their games. Like people are people especially because they're potentially gonna get powers. People are very scared of the vets. But like nothing, nothing humbles people more than 1, 2, 3 on the nomination chairs. Like that's pretty, that's pretty devastating. Who would Yash nominate? Honestly, at this point, anybody? If Devin's, Drew and Barrett are able to rein him in. They would likely have a lot of influence, but, but Yash continues to mostly just tell people what they want to hear and doesn't, I think, have a solid game plan moving forward. How does Drew recover from all the impending doom surrounding him? He needs to completely, he needs to, to sort of choose a track. In my opinion. He needs to either like, think about again, the Tyler situation on season 20. There was this initial dynamic of Tyler was the double agent in like a little bit at first and then he swapped with, with Brett and then Brett started being more double agent while Tyler focused on the, the hierarchy of level six. Uh, if Drew decides to start focusing on the hierarchy of the crossovers and the red corner, which he does have the pieces to do considering his connection to Kamu. He's got a great relationship with Barrett. I think he just needs to work more on his relationship with Bevins. I think that's the key for him there. I think he can start to, to smooth some of that over or the other option for him is just dive in even deeper with the other side. If they're going to suspect that he's going to turn on them, he might as well just actually turn on them. I think that trying to continue the path he's on, where he's a little bit in the middle there is, is not going to work out long term considering the, the said impending doom. Who is targeting Angela specifically? I would say nobody. I don't think anybody's particularly targeting Angela. Even the people that don't love her in the house don't see her as a threat enough to target here. So she's, she's looking pretty decent. Does Devin's really think Rome Lyric will keep up their deal? I think he does, I think he does believe it. I think he, I mean, he's hedged a little bit. He even said after the veto ceremony, like, I don't think I'm good at strategy. I'm just here to make big moves. But like, I, I, I think that, I think that like he, he said it himself after he talked to Lyric, he's like, why do I believe her? I think he does believe it. Let's see, what else? What kind of pitches could Melody make? Should Melody make to improve her chances? There's really not much Melody can say at this point. She's, that she hasn't kind of already said. I do think that Melody could do a better job of, of like keeping Lyric on board. Keeping Mallory on board. Mallory's an important vote here for her, so, you know, she has These conversations with the Littles and, and they talk like they're good, but I don't think she's done enough to really lock them in. Especially after that whole debacle of distancing herself from Mallory in the first week. I think she could do better there. Who would Yasha, Victor and a Melody versus Jason vote. Right now he's telling Devins that he's evicting Jason, though he has said in the past that he wants to evict Melody and he's talked with Devins about how he doesn't trust Melody much. He said to Devin's that he would be willing to vote out Jason, that he is voting out Jason. But again, I don't think Yash is tied to anything. Anyone particular thing. Who would I like most to see as the next week's hoh? I would honestly, I would love, like if Jason survives, I would love a Jason hoh. I think that would be very interesting. I want, I for. I for sure want in terms of my own viewing experience for somebody outside of the tool shed to win because they're likely going to be getting powers anyway and I really want to see their structure tested. If they're, if they're good players, they should be fine. And, and if they're not and these mistakes have cost them, then, you know, there's a little bit of comeuppance that happens. I think that would be fun to watch but. But we'll see. How good is Rick's position in the house after this week? I think there are potential dangers, but nothing, nothing serious has popped up yet. I think the damage that could have been done to Rick's game this week is yet to be seen. I think that he's still in power right now. There's still not a lot of talk about, you know, anything. We'll find out. Once he's out of power, people start thinking about how he won both HOH and veto, might have a power, went back on his word, then tried to make a deal. Those are things that are like more likely to pop up into people's brains after the fact. We saw like last week we were like, it looks like Dee's been doing pretty well, but we'll see how it turns out next week. And the following week it turns out it did go pretty well for D. She. She retains a lot of those relationships. So the question is, is Devin's going to be able to. To do the same? And I think it's definitely looking worse for Devins than it did for D. But, but you know, not guaranteed. What else? What else? I think. I think we're about to about done here. That's. That's about what I got. Yeah, that's about what I got. For today's updates, thank you all so much for joining. I will of course have. I'll be doing a podcast with Rob for the patrons of Rob is a podcast. We released it publicly last week. I'm not sure if we're doing that again this week, but I believe it will be a future patron exclusive podcast. We answer some questions from the audience mailbag and we also have been assigning win equity to players, which is different from the stock watch but also very fun. So check that out. I'll be live tomorrow morning, 11am Eastern, of course, to update you and everything that happens today on the big brother 28 live feeds. I will also be live again on my patreon, Twitch and YouTube tomorrow night watching the episode and and all kinds of other nonsense. That's what I got for you. Thank you all so much for joining me here today. I hope you enjoyed our journey, our solo journey today through the big brother 28 house and I will see all of you next time.