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I don't even know anymore. I don't even know. I don't. Hey, hey, hey, y'. All, it's me, Chappelle. And we are back again for another episode of Big Brother Unlocked, Unlocked, where we are going to talk about and recap the most recent episode of Big Brother Unlocked. And with me this time, you know, I always have to bring in the heavy hitters here first and foremost, but not first in my heart necessarily, because they are both equal to me. Mike Bloom, welcome.
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Heavy hitter my ass. I'm talking to the guy that just got a freaking shout out from Derek Levasseur on Big Brother. Unlock has officially become canonized in the universe of Big Brother. Chappelle, what the hell? You have ascended to sainthood.
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I have no words. I have nothing. I was like, I really hope no one has to see me talk about this show anytime soon because might just burst into tears because I'm a little overwhelmed, Mike. But I'm very happy that you're here and with you. I'm so happy as well. If I had to go through this embarrassing moment, who better than my co host for so many things and one of my bestest twins, as Lyric will say. Sasha. Sasha, welcome back.
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Listen, two Derek shout outs and me, like, I can't wait to be here.
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It's very different.
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Sasha, I don't care. 2 Derek shout outs and me. Okay, Chappelle, I blacked out. I just want you to note, like, I don't know how I am supposed to do the recap, but then I know that this happened to you, but you know, it happened to me, it happened to us.
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It happened to rjp. Another rhap shout out. Big news from Big Brother Unlocked. And so much that we have to talk about. We have this new format. I'm kind of getting used to it, but I definitely want to hear yours and Mike's opinion, Sasha, about this episode. And so we do have a lot to talk about. I don't. I guess we don't. I guess we. I can't bury the lead. I. I was, you know, watching the show and I went to go get some food because, you know, big boy gotta eat. And while I was in there warming my food up, I said, oh, shoot, I've been taking a while. Let me get back in there so I can take my notes for Big Brother. I walk in and I hear Derek Levasser talking about Dave Chappelle. And I was like, well, what did he do? What did I miss? Well, you, the girl. And I was like, wait, wait, me?
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Chappelle.
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That he was talking about. So, yeah, thank you to all the people who've been so nice to me ever since he said that. I am shocked. Mike, how do you deal with the fame?
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How are you asking me about that?
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Please, Mike.
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I guess. Listen, you deserve every single morsel of any of the positivity that has been hurled your way, not only over the past hour or so, but throughout, you know, the number of years you've been a part of this. Chappelle, you are here for the nonsense. You always are. And not say, Big Brother Unlocked is like the nonsense show. I think actually it's gained a lot of legitimacy in its second season here. But I, I. God, it hardens me so much, you know, I know this is super freaking lame to say, and I'm sure with all this stuff with Barrett chanting, Rob has a podcast like it's his new vocal stim on the wall, that we're not beating the culture allegations. I'm entirely sure of it. But it doesn't matter to me because my friends and the network that I'm eternally grateful to have been a part of for over a decade is getting mentioned on a show that they have put their blood, sweat, and tears into covering and for the longest time have not received any sort of acknowledgment from the big eye from the network itself. Like, I don't know, it brings me an incredible amount of joy just because. Not to put words in Rob's mouth, but I think for a long time he probably thought, like, he's one of the more, for lack of better term, renegade, you know, mainstream media sources of Big Brother coverage. He kind of treats those exit interviews still in that way. If you check out the question he asked lyric about that, apparently Jerry o' Connell did as well. The number one question. But to be able to have all these shout outs happen on Big Brother Unlocked. First off, thank you to Taylor and to, you know, the producers for making sure these names are mentioned on the show. Certainly not necessary, but very much appreciated. And it, it just warms my heart a lot to know that, like, I don't know that RHAP is getting a mention, because I feel like for the longest time, podcasts about reality TV were so niche, and they probably still are nowadays, but the fact they're getting acknowledged more and more on the shows that we are covering and have been covering is really freaking cool.
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Yeah, we're in the cult. We. We joined the cult. Sasha, how does it feel to now hear Rhap getting shout outs and, you know, and even just like the other people who cover Big Brother outside of Rhap, you know, I think that finally we're gonna like the. The show feels like it's not one of those shows where, like, are you still watching that? It does feel like it's coming back out as, like, a big popular thing now that BB Unlocked exists at.
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Yeah, I think 1. Big Brother is mainstream, and a lot of folks, I think, are able to finally claim out loud that they do. They. They watch it and care about this show. I know I've been seeing it a lot online, but who cares? That's not what this is about, okay? This is about you. Like, I can't believe that this damn guy is just sitting here acting so professional. Why wait?
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Should I play the clip? So for the record, I didn't. I didn't cut the whole thing, but there was a. I'll use the term skeet. Why the hell not Post you made on Blue Sky Chappelle of Dee's Derek Zoolander esque Runway walk. Because he's actually rnrhap and he recaps BB Unlocked. So Shout out to Chappelle.
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I walked in on Shout out to
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Chappelle because he's actually Rhap.
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I walked in on Shout out to Chappelle. So it took. It took a long time before I was able to come back to. Oh, wait, wait a minute. So, yeah, I. I appreciate, like, I said all the kind things, but I really do appreciate that RJP is getting some shine here as well. You know, like, I mean, it's Rob, it's Taryn, and I somehow slipped through the cracks like Sasha said. Mike, you've been dragged by Derek Lavasse, too. It's a whole family affair here.
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Everyone's gotten some. I like. I only get shout outs from first boots, obviously.
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We'll get you Shout out next. Sasha.
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Never. We're good.
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I do feel like BB on lock, though. And maybe it's because Taylor has been so vocal about, like, let us know what you're thinking about it. I feel like this is the. The Big Brother show that's like, for the people, by the people. And so I think, again, it does mean a lot, but also make a lot of sense as to why they have this creator corner and why we're getting now bi weekly. Rhap shouts. Watch. After we do all this glazing, they now just like, cut off the valve and, like, there's no more. We ended with Chappelle. We're going out on a high note in terms of rhap shout outs, and
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we have the clip forever.
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So I don't care as long as I have the clip. I was like, y', all, my granny watched this show. Like, I was like, this is crazy.
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Have they seen it or no?
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Yeah, my aunt said, why they say our name?
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All right.
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Chevreal is kind of a family thing, you know, and so, yeah, so that was incredible. But, yeah, big shout out to them, you know, like you said, Taylor is like the people's champ. She went and played Big Brother and now she's able to kind of give us what we want. In terms of BB Unlocked, I know we. Everybody had a lot of criticisms, including this network, about BB Unlocked the first time around, but this time around, I think they're really highlighting some of the stuff that we've been missing from the show. Mind you, they could have just left it in the show. That'd have been okay. But this is better than not having it. Sasha. I'm loving the family visits or at least the family portions. Now. I don't really remember much of it because I was still blacked out. Sasha, but what did you think about the. The Devins family basically cosplaying Big Brother?
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They're hilarious. Are you kidding me? Like, what a fun family. Team fun feeds. But it's just their family. You know what I mean? Like, they're so cute. I'm obsessed. Devin's youngest child. Hello. Hello. That's a star.
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A star. Future Big Brother player. Future survivor player. Yeah, the traitors.
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And not. Oh, my God. And then when they're a critique and then we need to get into Christian later. But also when Christian is like, oh, he won the, you know, diamond power veto. He's going to be there forever. And she said, and that's money. I say, oh, my God. Like, that's my little bestie. I love her.
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Yeah, yeah.
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The Devins family, I'm definitely biased in saying this, but they are incredible. I mean, I think you look at Rick and his sense of humor, and you have to imagine, like, just the environment that he lives in with that attitude and how that rubs off on his throne. I mean, Jack says that he's the fun dad. And, like, you could have known that even before you knew that Rick was a dad. Right? Like, even if you don't have children, you're a fun dad, either metaphorically or literally. I adore Becca. I've had the chance to be able to talk to her over the years. I know that Robin Taryn did as well and she has such a great sense of humor about things. Again, when you're married to Rick Devins, I think there's a tolerance of shenanigans that you have to reside with. And I love the fact that again, I think we're still a little unclear as, like, what the Devins fandom level is. And so to have them cosplaying as Angela the egg is pretty damn hysterical. So even if this is like their first real season diving in, good God, have they immersed themselves fully in the slime tank here?
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Yeah, one of us, one of us, one of us. Like, it just feels like we've welcomed the Devins family into our ecosystem. And now tangentially, Mike, Christian Hyubicki, the dad who stepped up, the father who
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stepped up, I mean, he certainly. Is that why he's been wearing that corduroy jacket for like a year and a half is because he knew this would be the role that he's. He's dressed like America's stepdad. I will admit, when Devins and Dee were first announced and revealed to be on Big Brother, it took my survivor loving brain a good amount of time, honestly, to get adjusted to this, to not make this seem like someone brought their archive of our own fan fiction to life. And like, oh, my God, they are actually playing Big Brother. And then there's moments like this when you have Christian Hbicki talking about Big Brother in a family segment, a show he has derided many times on chat bcc that then pulls me out of the reality and is like, this is some ridiculous shit going on right there. What simulation are we living in at this point that we have Christian Houbicki authentically sitting there playing video games, trying to cuck Rick Devins while he's playing in that house and say, look at your dad. He won a Diamond Power veto. He's not going anywhere. Don't you worry.
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I'm your daddy.
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Sorry, kids. We now have to explain what that means.
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Our worlds are colliding, you know, with the Survivor players and then now the Survivor families and tangential people who aren't even in the game, but their Survivor family as well. Sasha, you, I would say that you're probably primarily a Big Brother fan, right? Like, if you had to pick one or the other, how do you feel about Survivor kind of infiltrating your space? Because I know Lavina had some, you know, trepidation.
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Me and living are sisters for real. Because, yeah, this is an unserious ass show. This has been unserious. It's been hilarious. It's been ridiculous. Here come the Survivor fans. All serious. Mind you, people are half naked on y' all show. Okay, well, for different reasons. Consent versus Tyler Perry's idea. Okay, yeah, I said it. But seriously, I just feel like Survivor fans sometimes can be like, a bit pretentious and they like dog on big Brother and I feel like big brother fans need to stand up. And so what? This is our show. They ride bananas. Who cares? I feel like it's hilarious.
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Could the entirety of like, the past couple years of Survivor have built up to this moment? You know, like, I feel like fried chicken and waffles from Survivor 48 might have been the most big brother coded Survivor moment we've had.
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Yeah, we had the chicken and waffles song. We also had start Toomey's music video my enemies be plotting or something like that.
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Okay.
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There was a lot of shenanigans going on in Survivor, but we brought and mixed these shenanigans with the big brother shenanigans. And the reason why I got that shout out on Unlocked was because I was giving praise to D. You know, we saw in this week that with this amazing blind side, it was basically he got bored and decided, hey, maybe I should do something else. And we saw that throughout the week. But I have to get Yalls reaction because I haven't talked to y' all about it yet. Sasha, what was it like? Where were you at when you experienced thugs day? As I've been calling it Brown thugs day.
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Oh, my God. Can I just say I was praying for it, you know, like, I pray for times like this. I deserve good things happening to me. And here we are. Just how embarrassing for you, girl, is incredible.
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Embarrassing. Incredible, Mike. The face crack of the century.
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I mean, this was unbelievable. I mean, first off, listen, I know that opinions have been varying about this season, especially last week, but it cannot be denied that now we're in the third season of a row of, like, incredible blind sides. The Cedric blind side, the Riley blind side. The lyric blindside. Even though she doesn't claim it was a blind side, I think it was a blind side. Like, we are spoiled right now. This does not happen usually in big brother. Look at Big Brother 25. That's a fantastic example of it. So I was, I mean, even just following the feeds and watching the feeds yesterday afternoon, it cannot be expressed how incredibly unorthodox this all was. Specifically the timing. This happened four Hours before the eviction, four hours. We have seen flips happen overnight or the morning of this was dia Debit's going up to the HOH room and saying, ah, screw it, blow it all up. So I feel like it's an incredibly special moment. I always love when the HOH is blindsided by the eviction. I hate, hate, hate the attitude of we've got to vote the way the HOH wants because their head of household only until that final nomination is made, then essentially they're a lame duck. And so I love these people realizing they're the ones with the votes, they take the control into their hand and especially when is someone like Haley who has one of the worst contracted cases of HOH ITIs I've seen in recent memory. If only there was an inoculation for that. She was able to just get so on her high horse about how everything was going to go only to have the worst possible scenario unfold and to have her be left in the dark at the same time.
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Yeah, Sasha, Derek brings it up. He says, you know, I don't really know if this was strategically necessary. What do you say to that question? Because Taylor said yes, yes, it was. Was this necessary, Sasha?
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I, I, you know, I agree with Derek, I guess on two things, you know, one, your shout out and now I guess this because, yeah, I don't think that it was necessary. But here's the thing. Who cares? Who cares? I want fun, I want chaos. Okay, go listen to Taryn for the strategy because I want ridiculousness. And it felt like these two, like Dee and Devins were like bored and they said, you know, why not let's just like fuck shit up? Because I can.
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Yeah.
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And I love that energy.
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And they did. You know, I think that that's some of the stuff that captured us about all Big Brother before we all figured out the strategy, what was supposed to happen. They didn't really care. They were just like, nah, I don't like this person. I'm going to put them up. And if I got three votes to get them out, Mike, that's I'm still going to do it.
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Yeah. And that's one of my hot takes in general when it comes to not only this show but reality competition in general, which is like, I don't mind recruits. In fact, sometimes I actively encourage recruits. What matters to me is not your passion for the show but like your passion for playing. And it's very clear, especially D, who had only seen two seasons prior to playing. Like, I don't necessarily know if she is wanting to make these intricate chess moves in the hopes of winning $750,000 Again, this was a flamboyant move. Especially I take less umbrage with going for Lyric over Melody, more so than leaving half of her own alliance and theoretically some of her closest allies in the dark. That's the thing that feels much more wholly unnecessary, but again, makes for an absolutely beautiful Renaissance painting. That is Haley's reaction to it all. But all that is to say I think that Dee and Devins were kind of this perfect casting formula for this season in that they are certainly capable of being able to rule over the house the way they have been for the better part of a month. But also they're not so wholly committed to the concept of playing Big Brother that they're not going to be like, let's just do some wild and random shit like if we get voted out next week. Oh well, it wasn't my dream anyway. D especially already got my million a couple years ago. And they're also bringing in. I wouldn't even call this like live tribal energy. I would call this more so the pre tribal scrambling energy where it was less so. Okay, let's get up and whisper with one another. That's what they're more achieving with the blockbuster. It was more so like, okay, we only have a few hours until tribal. I'm gonna pull this person aside, this person aside, this person aside. We're all voting this way and it makes a lot of sense. We talk all the time about the differences between Survivor and Big Brother in terms of what is emergent gameplay. And they were able to really weaponize something that not a lot of Big Brother players can do in just how long a week is typically.
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Right.
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And can I also just say one more thing is this is. I don't know that I'm like fully for vets constantly being on the show, but I do feel like when at least these past two seasons, Rachel and now the three of them are able to kind of and even Jason actually let's include. They're able to take risks and do certain things maybe, you know, in quote unquote, like might make good tv. They know what content is, et cetera, et cetera. But it works for me and I really enjoy that they are able to kind of say no. I, I have the like chutzpah to make that move and make the change instead of kind of like going where the. The everyone else goes. Because that's where I think Big Brother becomes the worst, where the bottom people Stay at the bottom. They don't even try to make moves. They don't, you know, even like you're. You lost Blockbuster and you're just like going and hugging everyone because you know you're going home. That is boring. So instead, I think these events at least bring in a little bit of that, like stir eat.
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Right. Anna in the chat points out that the right vets is what you need for the fun gameplay. Right. And so we've seen it before where you bring in vets and they are the ones who, you know, given some other opportunities, maybe they would have won the first time they played or they did win the first time they played. And so they come back and play like a very safe game or, you know, they know kind of Big Brother by the numbers. They know exactly what they need to do to win the game. We need more chaos demons. And by chaos demons, I mean, you know, Rick Devins, but also Jason, also D, also Angela. You know, as much you love or hater, she's not going to do the boring thing, not often at least. And then even like last season, Rachel Riley, that's the type of winner you bring back, right? Somebody who, she probably knows how to play the game, but her instinct is mess, you know, and so just even watching her evolve into the player that she is now, we still got those dramatics from Rachel. You know, if next time you come for the queen, make sure I'm wearing a gown or something like that. What was the quote, Mike? You have it?
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Yeah, it was like, basically, you come for the king, you best not miss, you know, that. That type of energy. And I completely agree. I think, because maybe this is a hot take. I don't know if you all agree. I think given this success and especially given the ratings, I think we are going to see some form of returnee or reality TV vet on every Big Brother season in the foreseeable future. Oh, I think that they like this formula. I think as much as Julie may not have been on board with the Survivor crossover at first, I think that they are liking, as you mentioned, what Rachel was bringing. It's this idea of bringing in people who know how to play a game, who know how to perform for the cameras especially, that while everyone else is kind of getting warmed up to being on TV, they are already 50 meters ahead. I do think, especially given the ratings as well, I think that more likely than not, there are going to be some form of returnees on a lot of these seasons. And I think the choice of returnee is incredibly important because I think ideally I would want to go for, like, big, quirky character looking for redemption. Now, arguably, we had that with Paul with 18 going into 19, and we saw how that went. But I think some people also felt that, you know, that pulse of was incredibly intriguing too, and just how different things were. So I. I feel like if we're gonna keep doing this, that's the way to go. I don't think we need to bring back Casey and be like, okay, let's see what she can do. Again, these people are the ones informing the direction of the house and the. The tempo of the season. So bring in some brass. Don't bring in the strings.
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Right?
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Yeah, I think that Einstein for BB 29.
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You see, you know, you. It's the taste, Sasha. That's what I'm saying.
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That's now crispy and McCrispy strips meeting creamy Caesar sauce. Sounds extra. Crispy caesar sauce at McDonald's for a limited time. But, you know, I'm glad you mentioned Paul, because in this episode, we did have a chaos demon from Paul's time. You know, we got the return of Josh Martinez. And again, that's the type of returner that you want, right? Somebody like Josh won the game, but it was an ugly game. It was messy. It was loud. Banging pots and pans, meatballs or whatever else he was doing, he was doing a lot. But, you know, you look back on that season, and as dark as some moments of that season were, he was one of the bright spots, or at least one of the parts where you remember and like, oh, that was crazy, right? And so when you bring back people like Josh, you probably get some similar reactions, some similar gameplay. I was happy that we got to see Josh, Sasha. What are you. Are you impressed by Josh's new look? He didn't look like this last time he played Big Brother.
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Yeah, it's just I think Josh has been on a renaissance, right, since Big Brother. He admits to it as well, but it's just he got a little bit clown, maybe right starting on the challenge. But then now I. I think he's. Because of the vacation alliance. Love it. I hate it. But, you know, he's. He's been able to kind of make moves and then get on to other shows as well. Kill it there. So I really enjoying Josh. I got to chat with him a little bit, right. For Destination X Exit Press, and it's just he is, like, such a chill, fun dude. Like, he just knows who he is now. Like, his confidence, I think, is what feels so exciting to watch. And I really hope that he does get to come back and play Big Brother proper in some way. Like him. June. I know, like, they can't. Danielle. They're always talking about this, like, abridged version of Big Brother that they want to play. So it's just, again, I think I'm like, become a Josh Dan and, like, I just want good things for him.
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I mean, it also should be remembered, Josh was 23 when he won Big Brother, baby. And that was almost 10 years ago. Think of how you all were at 23. God willing, if any of you listening are not 23 yet, you'll be able to talk about 10 years from now and feel this way. But he probably feels like a completely different person. I mean, just also seeing just how spelt he is compared to the way he was in Big Brother 19. I mean, listen, especially watching his latter challenge seasons, he still does bring some of the drama, still bring some of the mess. They'll bring some of the histrionics. I'll always remember. Gimme the Goof. That was fairly recent, I feel like, but I do think, especially when it comes to talking about Big Brother, I think Josh has a lot of confidence in not only, you know, what he likes about the show, but, like, expressing that as well. Like, he was more than happy to state on the panel, happy to disagree about certain things, disagreeing with Lyric to her face about where her game went wrong. And that's. That's really cool to see, especially for someone who was not very well regarded at all at the time of his win. Right?
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Yeah, he's come so far. I remember I was not the biggest Josh fan, but now, you know, you can kind of see the maturity. But also you still Know that if he needs to give you good tv, he could. I didn't watch that. The last reality show he was on, the. Was it. I think
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it was, yeah, But I can't. Yeah.
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Celebrity Big Brother of Mexico. But, uh, apparently he was really good on there. He got a lot of votes. He got pretty far. And so, yeah, I'm pretty sure we'll see more of Josh in the future, because, like you said, kind of in a renaissance, another chaos demon that we revisited on this episode. Because this was. I guess this is the perfect panel for this conversation, y'. All. We brought back Jason, AKA Selena Esteetis. And Jason was endearing in the house, but I think Jason outside the house is. Is just. I don't know, man. Every time I see him on TV or on a clip or something like that, and he's talking about the show, he's always teari up with how passionate he is about the show and how much fun he had. And, Mike, I know you've had personal interaction with Jason. What was your experience watching him on Big Brother and now seeing how he's dealing with life on the outside world?
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First thing I will say, you know, followed by many praises, is one complaint. Jason, you're out of the house now. You have full access to your voluminous wardrobe. Why were you not in drag? You had no excuse. It's not like you could be like, well, they might not recognize him. Don't save that shit for finale night in October when we won't remember. This is your moment. Greet Jerry o' Connell with the full beat. Make it happen. You live right down the street. Come on, you don't have to bring all this stuff on a plane. But I do think that Jason even leaving the house, getting to talk with him the day after, was incredibly upfront with where his game went wrong. Now, look, I love me some Delulu houseguests, especially when they're exit press, when they're sort of coming to terms with everything, but, like, he was incredibly cognizant of how messy he was. And I love that Venn diagram of a reality TV contestant where they're not afraid to be messy, but they also are fully aware of it. You know, they're pig pen from Peanuts. They know that they're stirring up everywhere they go, but it doesn't stop them from walking.
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Right. It's that same energy we're getting from Dee and Devins, where it's like, yeah, the strategically correct move is maybe don't tell people that I was crying and then winking and Making faces at the camera. But then. But it's not messy enough.
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Right.
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I have to. I have to go that extra mile. Sasha, we need more showmen on the show like Jason who are going to say, okay, there's good strategy, but then there's entertaining tv, and I want to give you some of that, too.
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Yeah.
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It's just. I believe that this is where casting gotta, you know, step it up. Right. Like, we need more Jason's. But I think when there's, like, only one chaos demon like this, they often get left out on a island. Either somehow they're able to get in with the big alliance or they're not, and then they go home. Like, even Frenchie, I feel like we were able to.
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Right.
E
Like, he's so crazy. And flame down very fast. So I think there are people that, you know, are able to bring that chaos, but then they leave us fast. And is that a good thing? You know, maybe you burn bright and fast and leave.
B
We've seen it both ways, right. We've seen the chaotic people like Vince who are going to throughout the entire season, have Taryn losing sleep, you know, and have people stressed out and, you know, staying up all night. We've seen that. But you're right, we have seen the ones like. Like. Like Audrey from big brother 17. Right. Like, couple weeks with Audrey in the house, her blanketing, her skipping the nomination ceremony, like, stuff like that is what keeps Big Brother going. Like, we need more chaos.
C
Well, especially in the first month, right, where everyone is getting into the shallow end of the pool and trying to figure out how to doggy paddle. You have someone cannonballing in there. That's great because that's something to talk about. That's something to get people's attention. Now, sometimes it turns into Big Brother 16, where you have Devin's reign of terror for three weeks and then nothing else afterwards. But that's where, again, you bring in hopefully multiple chaos demons to kind of substitute for one another. I guess you could say Zach Rance was like, sort of a form of that, even if he did fall in line from a brief portion of time. But I. I think it's almost like a necessary part of every Big Brother season now, like, you could say 26. We were resplendent with Angela and Tucker. You mentioned Vince, but I feel like, you know, 27 had Mickey, which I feel like was her own chaos demon as well, in a manner of speaking. And so I love it. It's unfortunate because, like you said, Sasha, like, very rarely does it mean for Longevity in the game. But I'm always here for someone who's here for a good time, not a long time.
E
Yeah. Like, I miss Devin. Like a devin character from bb6. Damn. Bb16 really had crazy people.
B
Yeah.
E
How did that. How did the end game become that? But wow, I just thought about all those guys that are just, like, ridiculous. It's just bring Devin back. Will he act just as crazy? God, I hope so. Otherwise they don't come back.
B
Yeah. Come back with that same energy. It's crazy because we see Jason watching the clips, you know, of the rest of the house guests being like, hey, this guy should be on Drag Race. Like, you're a drag queen. Yeah. I think you would be great on Drag Race. And the whole time, Jason's sitting there keeping the secret. Sasha, this is the only secret he was ever able to keep in the house, is the one that probably could have saved him. Why didn't you tell these people you were on Drag Race?
E
And I think maybe the icons would have worked with your ass a little bit more. Jason, please. I don't. I don't know. I understand that he wanted to go in as himself. Right. Like, this is his passion. He cares about Big Brother, and he's a drag queen. He wanted to separate them, and that's fair. I think we. I personally fell in love with him, and I really thought he was going to win or at least go far. I didn't realize was that messy, but just the way that I think he got caught up and forgot about, you know, how basic new school Big Brother is. There is a big alliance that happens day one. If you ain't in it, that means it just happened. Not that it's not happening. It's that you're just not in it, babe. Right. And I just feel like he forgot a lot of those things. As a, like, a fan.
C
I mean, I think it was that he was, like, eager to be the hyper gamer squirrel, and so he was finding nuts wherever he could. And so, as he points out, like, he was safe that first week. He won week one safety. And people were liking him. You know, he was kikiing with everybody again. Angela loved him, but it was these mistakes of being so vocal, going for the veterans when one of them was the hoh. It was fake crying to Angela and not even that gloating about it to other people, not even thinking about, even if Drew wasn't in an alliance with Angela, that that information would somehow get back to them. I think that Jason sort of got ahead of himself and was like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna have this game unlocked from the very beginning. When a tried and true lessons of these types of shows, it's like, you can't win Big Brother in week one. You can certainly lose it.
A
Yes.
B
Right. I'm happy that he came out of the house and was able to kind of embrace the character that he had on the show. You know, he talks about how he walks out and he sees Julie with the tea kettle, and that kind of alerts him that, oh, wait, I'm not hated. Because he was so isolated in the house, he. He finds out that he's been getting all these votes and that people really enjoyed him. And so I'm loving that he had that experience and was able to come away with a positive experience. Would love to see him play again, you know, now that he's gotten his feet wet a little bit. So that would be very cool if maybe he did come back as, like, a former player. Mike, we've seen people come back immediately after before, so I don't think that's completely after the question, out of the question. And so I'm looking forward to seeing what else he does, but he cannot bring Rome with him. I know they're still friends. Clips of Rome in this episode. And y', all, I was actually very surprised to see that he was actually rooting for Lyric, because I thought he wanted her out of the house to be with him.
C
Well, he did say that at a certain point. Right. But Rome was like, remember? You ever see that meme of the really animated Eagles woman, The Eagles fan at home who's, like, hooting and hollering? That was Rome watching Lyric do the pickleball challenge. Yeah.
B
It was adorable.
E
Isn't he? Oh, no, he's a tennis instructor. Not pickleball.
C
No, he's pickleball.
B
It is pickleball. Yeah.
E
Oh, my God. So that's even funnier. That is just his two biggest interests colliding together. Lyric and pickleball. So I loved it. It's so silly. And I'm low key glad that. Yeah, they're back.
B
They're back together. Yeah. And we will see if we get this marriage proposal for real. I mean, Julie was really leaning into it on the episode. I was like, julie, you gotta chill. But we bring out Lyric here, and we kind of get to talk to her. I thought it was very funny that Jerry o' Connell was kind of rooting against her openly before they brought her out, but we get her point of view of her exit, and we got to watch her Watch the clips of Thog's response to, you know, her campaigning. And Sasha, it. It feels like jealousy. Is that the edit or is that what you pick up too when you're keeping up with the feeds and stuff?
E
Yeah, unfortunately, I think she maybe has struck out. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. A few.
C
Right?
E
Because didn't. Who else did she. Like, not just Roman said it like
C
before this came on, that like she had touched his hand at one point, I think.
E
Yeah. And I think Rome, right, was telling Lyric that like, oh, if other people are, you know, flirting with me, oh, my God. So I just. Yeah, I feel that. I think may allegedly again, from what I have seen, maybe she's feeling a type of way and she's obviously not a girl's girl, so she's just stupid. Taking it out on the women and really, I think, like dragging them and their looks and even how she talked about Melody on the Sunday show. It's just. It's giving hater. It's giving embarrassing. It's giving like, you're better than this.
B
Sasha, I want to speak to the petty. Sasha, can you. Can you bring her to the table really quick? Sasha, let's say you play big brother and you get out of the house and then someone shows you a clip of basically a woman hating on you. What is your response at that point? Because you're outside, they're inside. What do you do?
E
No lyrics better than me. You know what I mean? I'd be like, oh, you're in there for what? So that they can dog walk you some more? Because guess what? I got eliminated. So did look at your face, babe.
C
So.
E
But, Taylor, we can't. It's not giving a lot of shock, but no lyric better than me. That's all I'll say. Let. Let me catch somebody talking about me like this.
C
I will say, though, I feel like they picked the wrong clip to show lyric. Like, I feel like it was kind of a lame clip to show lyrical. Like, well, Kamu was actually supporting you. I think you show lyric the clip that was shown earlier in the episode. The extended. The like post Kamu pitching for lyric when he leaves the hoh room and she's complaining to Angela and flipping off Kamu and saying like, well, he has a crush on her because she's into him and because her boyfriend's gone. Like, that's the thing you need. The reaction to here is just like, again, her takeaway is less so. Oh, my God, Haley hates me and more so. Oh, I'm glad that Kamu was on my Side. This was no, Haley, like straight on hates you. And this was seconds before. Hey, are you doing okay? I put a glass of water by your table, babe, in case you're too wine drunk. Okay. I'll check on you in the morning. Love you.
D
Bye.
E
Can you imagine guys, if you. You were that nice to somebody and they are talking like that about you? The clown music.
B
Yeah, yeah. The clown nose, the clown shoes, the clown afro. It would all be there. I think that this is kind of why I didn't want Lyric to go. Because I felt like you could get more out of this lyric versus Haley kind of environment. Because Lyrics is very transparent in what she was doing. She's kissing ass, right? You need anything? You would like some breakfast? Would you like something to eat? Would you like some water, some ice, some lemon? You know, like she's doing that whole thing. And then Haley's in there basically drinking wine out the bottle. Like talking to Angela. I mean, like this man combo that ruined my buzz. She's flipping everybody off. I was like, wait a minute. Turn that up. Give these people more alcohol and let them argue and let them be jealous and let them be petty. It takes us back to old Big Brother Mike.
C
So here's. Here's the thing, because there's been a lot of clowning on our good friend Jerry O' Connell for standing 10, 20, 30 toes down of being a Haley Stan. To which I say I don't understand his reasoning, but I could understand a reasoning because I believe that Haley thog Martin is the most Real Housewives coded casting in Big Brother. We have experienced in quite some time. The drinking the wine was really what did it for me where she is consistently shit talking people behind their backs and then, you know, complaining about the fact that other people are shit talking her. It's her bluntness to people's faces as well. It's not any. You know, she is not regarding any sort of social. In a social strategy game. But I feel like the sloppiness with which she regards all of these relationships, it still maintains this position of superiority within the house. House is so housewife to me.
E
She. I don't. She can't. No spine for a house. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah.
E
It's just I. I find her to be a little boring. Like, be like Melody. You know what I mean? At least say I hate you to your face.
C
But. But I. I like Haley's unique brand in that she also is combining that with delusion at the same time. I think that's what really. I Know that this week ended incredibly, but it was something that was kind of keeping me going throughout this week, especially when things were looking dire, was like, at least Haley's saying some crazy up in the hoh room every day to keep me occupied.
E
Yeah. It's just her reads are so boring.
A
Right?
E
Like, she really thought she ate when she was reading the hoh letter. And it's like, you know, that's how it sounded.
A
Right.
E
Like, just embarrass it, girl. Like, you can never. But no, I agree with Mike that, like, she's giving, she's trying. It's just she doesn't have.
B
I think you need a villain. I think, I think for me, at least when I watch Big Brother, I know who I'm rooting for and I know who I'm rooting against. And with dog, I know exactly who I'm rooting against. Right. Like, I, I, I see her. She doesn't put up any, like, facade to us at home that she's like, doing anything different. She is thog all the way through. And so I appreciate just being able to say, okay, well, now I have somebody that will make me sit up all, you know, and stay up and watch the wall competition to see who could get their cup, you know, how she could get her come up. You know, it's, it's the thing that keeps you glued to the feeds is what is she going to get into next and how are they going to stop her? And so I can appreciate that a little bit now. Jerry is a full blown stand, Mike.
C
Yeah, I mean, well, first off, I think again, going back to the housewives thing, I believe Jerry has been on record with some perhaps not so popular opinions about certain housewives as well. So again, I think it follows. But I think the other thing for me, and again, I can understand why people supremely dislike Haley both in and out of the house. But like, there's something that's so not serious about her again, especially this week, she said and did almost cartoonishly villainous things. Going to Taylor is objectively ridiculous. And so it's almost raven adjacent where it's like, I can't help but watch to see whatever you're doing next. You know, I don't know how much we'll get into to live feed spoilers here, but there was a portion of all of these riff raff and fallout from last night's vote where Haley convinced herself that someone had a power to flip votes. Because surely out of the five people who claim they voted for Melody, they're not lying at all. Somebody must have just won a power to flip those votes to make it 8 to 3.
B
I love that BB Unlocked is giving us the stuff that you would see in the live feed episodes, or at least the stuff you would see at the beginning of the next episode. Because now we don't have to wait for the aftermath of the face crack, right? And so we see the investigation start. Who flipped? Who flipped? It's like Faltay. The spirit of Faute Sasha is in that house. And for some reason, these three people have managed to snow them to where they can't even determine who their allies are. I just. I just felt like Caitlin Herman died for this, you know, like a swaggy C died for this, you know, Scotty died for this. Vessel died for this. We're bringing back the old hits.
E
Oh, brother. You know, thank God the fountain is on the other side.
B
We're rooting for the fountains. Last time it was okay.
E
That's what I'm saying. It was terrible to be a fauti Stan. I wanted to end it all, but now I'm like, oh, this is how it feels when you're just like these stupid idiots and you get to like, eat your popcorn and be happy about it because. What are y' all on, Chuck? First of all, the fact that Chuck all of a sudden has emerged as a character. Okay, you are a clown. That is so embarrassing that he is doing the. Who flip flipped? Who flipped? What's going on?
C
I. I'm in for sure. Chuck Holmes. I hope now, I really hope as well that, like, I do wonder if seeing this on the episode, does this mean we won't see as much of it on Sunday? I couldn't remember last time. Like, did we repeat stuff from the unlocked episode on Sunday? Because yeah, it would kind of suck. Especially during the endurance competition. I feel like this is when you cut to all the aftermath and having all these people, like, again, you think on paper, okay, clearly you try to put two and two together. Especially when Devin says that outright that he voted for Lyric and be like, well, maybe Dee and Angela voted that way as well. But no, these people were for the better part to this hour, still a bit snowed as to who was voting whom. And I just love these simplicity when Angela's like, what's going to happen when Haley finds out? He's like, she's not going to find out because we're just going to keep lying about it.
B
It.
C
It's that simple.
E
I don't blame Yash Yash out here catching strays it's wild how Dee was like, we'll just blame him. He don't know what the hell he's doing.
B
Yeah, it has them all spun around. I think that this is incredible. This is what we want to see, right? We want to see like the people in power not be in power so much and you know, be confused and be like, we like to see the house shift. Now I know some people are like, well, the people in power are still the, the icons. And you know, I'm biased. I love the icons. So, you know, it is what it is. But I like to see that the tool shed, you know, we thought it would be a steamroll and just because of just sheer willpower, it's just not a steamroll anymore. And so we'll have to talk about later on. Maybe we will do a spoiler section where we talk about where the HOH led us.
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Why wait? Ask your doctor. Visit botoxchronicmigraine.com or call 1-844botox to learn more. Sasha, how do you feel about Unlocked? Kind of saving these missing moments for us and just, you know, making. You have to tune in on Friday to see some of the things that were left on the cutting room floor.
E
I think they're. They're fun enough to keep you engaged, but I don't know that they're enough to keep you, you know, really, like, wanting to get in and watch it. I'm thinking, right, like, when Marvel had agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. like, you have, like, where they would literally sit there and be like, oh, if you didn't Watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. you know you're gonna be lost when the next movie comes out. I feel like that's what they're trying with Unlocked, and it's like, no, it's skippable. And that's okay. I enjoyed it. I want to be clear and I appreciate that it isn't like, make or break for folks that maybe can't get into it.
C
That is such a great comparison, Sasha, that this is the. The MCU TV show, right? Big Brother. I mean, what I think is the difference between this year and last year was last year they were actively cutting the feeds to show, like, we watched brand new content on Unlocked. This time we saw on feeds the fallout of Kamu pitching for Lyric. We saw on feeds as much as we could, the aftermath of that eviction. So it's more so them highlighting it in this case. We wouldn't have gotten this until Sunday anyway. And so I think that they were able to because so much happened, especially in the. In the last two days before this eviction. Like, I think they were actually able to fill in some blanks because I know they talked about it yesterday, but, like, I can't imagine how incredibly confused Chappelle, I don't know if you. How confused your grandma was that we had a whole segment of. All right, if it's not true, then it's Melody. And Lyric is evicted near unanimously.
B
That has to be so jarring, right? I like, we talk about this a lot that you have to kind of keep up with the feeds or things like this will catch you off guard. They only have so much time to edit the episodes with them deciding to flip four hours before the episode. I know the editors were like, stop talking. Everybody just shut it down because you want good tv. But at the same time, how are we going to explain this to people so that everybody's not just completely lost as to what happened now? They do have time for now unlock to kind of fill in those gaps a little bit. And then we know that if we have an endurance competition on Sunday, they're going to do a lot of cutaways to kind of fill in those gaps. But it definitely feels so much better knowing that I could see some of this coming, because we're watching it 24 7, and that's. To me, that's the beauty of Big Brother for sure. I was a little preoccupied with being blacked out while this segment was happening. Who was the BB dumbass of the week?
C
You might have guessed.
E
Oh, of course.
B
Was it.
E
Come on.
B
I mean, was it thog?
E
Yeah.
B
Oh, dog dang. Dog down. Dog down.
E
They are dragging that lady, the.
C
The thog mog off that. They actually all then did their individual shocked Haley faces.
B
Luckily, I got you two here, so, Mike, why don't you give us your. Your biggest thog face crack look for all the people watching on YouTube. That'll work. Yes. YouTube face.
E
That was YouTube thumbnail. I like it.
B
Sasha. Oh, what's your blind side face?
E
Yeah, I have to do, like, wait with all the fillers, so can't move too much.
B
It's just stoic. People have seen me blindsided before. I don't know if you remember when I was live on Twitch, when Rob Seston, you know, took his untimely exit from.
C
From the trailer before you got up and walked off.
B
Yeah. Mouth wide open, just, like, stunned. And then do it.
E
Yeah.
B
And then a lot of cursing followed by a lot of cursing. My granny did not watch that. And so, yeah, I love that. I love that. I don't know how I feel about them being, like, the BB dumbass, because I think one of these days they're gonna pick somebody. I'm gonna be like, hey, they're not a.
E
To me.
B
But right now I'm like, it's fine.
C
Do you want to guess who the badass was, Chappelle?
B
No, I don't want to guess. Tell me who was the badass?
C
It was Taylor.
B
Okay. Okay. Good for Taylor. You know, that. That competition, you know, the. The the. What is it? Veto bluff or whatever it's called. It's so good. It's so good. They did it last season.
E
It.
B
It worked then, it worked now. To me, I think it's a cool comp like contest. Like, the concept is good, but I think it's the costumes that really bring it home, Mike. To me, they go so far out to make it feel so extravagant. And even though they're just kind of playing a 5050 game of chance, it still is one of the more entertaining competitions that we've seen so far.
C
Yeah. I actually want to go to Sasha here because you are one of the biggest Bridgerton fans I know. Do you feel like it held up as an adaptation?
E
Trying. They were trying. Listen, it's not Regency era outfits, I'll tell you that. Maybe the queen did wear those, but not the others. And it's. It's so cute. They were all, I think, dressed like that. Even after the comp. Yash was, like, doing the most with his little outfit. Cut your hair.
C
They couldn't afford a barber back then.
B
Cut your hair.
E
No, cut his hair.
B
Cut his hair.
E
Just shave it.
C
Why is. Why? What's his hair on the rant room last? I feel like there should be a rant room every single week about someone complaining about Yasha's hair.
B
I gotta do it. It's always gonna be me. If I. If they give me another shot, I'm gonna be like, chappelle needs to get off of Yasha's hair. I just listen. It's a very Texas haircut. I'll just say that. And I don't like it when we do it. And I definitely don't like it that he's doing it either. So I'm just not a fan of the shag, as we would call it over in this parts of the world. But. But you're right. The red room is fun this time around. We got to see people talking about their fashion. Did anybody stand out to you, Mike, as having some interesting fashion choices? Because I have one standout for sure.
C
Well, here comes freaking Tim Gunn. Yash being like, Haley has never had a outfit that wasn't boring on this show.
B
Make it work.
C
I mean, like, crazy. Yes. It's, you know, thog bash week here, but like, like, the big brother house is so incredibly cold. So I do not put it past her at all to be, like, wearing that flannel all the live long day. She must be freezing her ass off.
B
It is cold. But also, Sasha, you gonna be on TV 247 you gotta get some looks off.
E
Listen, if you were, you know, young, back in the day, millennials know how never gets cold, okay? So you just gotta do what you gotta do for the look. But it's just, it's just so rich coming from a man with that haircut. You know, let's, let's get back into it because how is no one, like, dragging him more? You know, I'm just doing it every time because cut it like, you're a good looking dude. And again, as an Indian, why is this our representation? But unfortunately, I believe I'm a Yash kid.
B
You are, you're saying.
E
You can say it.
B
You are.
E
I love his stupid shout outs. They're so dumb. What are we doing? But it's just, why is he dragging Haley? Like, I don't know that he isn't anything that's so standout. It's like what pisses me off is that he looks like his hair looks like that. And he's calling out women stay out of women's business.
C
Speaking of hair, should we talk about the segment dedicated to Barrett's chest hair? There is one particular Blue sky account that I know was probably incredibly excited by all this. This.
B
I had to, I had. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, whoever you are. Barry Chest at bar Terry Chest. I had to block you. It was, it was getting uncomfortable. It was getting. It was becoming a lot. It was coming a lot. But that's a great point. A lot of the men are not wearing any clothes either. You know, they're out here completely shirtless. Barrett has just decided to wear his hairy chest as his entire outfit. A choice, especially with. I've seen some people online like, upset about it. I like that he's willing to just be, you know, hairy in front of everybody. Not something that I would do personally, but I feel like if I'm in the house, I'm trying to get these looks off. I'm. Call me Lala. I'm not wearing heels, but I got a different pair of shoes every day. Like, I'm, I'm trying to get the looks off. I had a lot of feedback for Lala after the blockbuster last week when she lost because her ass came down them stairs after losing that blockbuster in them heels. And I said, ma', am, you need to lock in. Why did you put heels on after that competition you just lost? Why are you, why do you care what shoes you're wearing down the stairs? And so I was very upset about it. Was very upset about it. But also, if I Was in her shoes, not those shoes. If I was in my shoes, I probably would have did the same thing. So, yeah, they're. They're out here naked, Mike. Nobody's wearing clothes. So at least except for Rick Devins, who's a never nude.
C
Yes, exactly. I do love Barrett's, like, 17. Again, reference about how Rick Devins is an elementary school boy. Maybe that's why he gets along so well with his kids too, is because he's a kid at heart. But then also, the example was very odd about, like, Rick Devins is a child because he wears mismatched clothing and runs around the backyard. It's like, I mean, I can understand because Barrett. I mean, listen, I can't speak about anything. I've got, like, a full going on down there as well. But I. I can understand where he's come from. Exactly. I can understand where he's coming from, though, because I feel like it's his own sort of like, tongue in cheek way of, like, okay, all these other dudes are walking around shirtless. Like, let me get in there. And like, at the very worst, people make fun of me. But then, like, I'm kind of in on the joke. As opposed to. To Rick, who's very comfortable in his own body, but is perhaps going in the complete opposite direction.
B
Yeah.
E
Him in the shower with the shirt on and stand up. Devin.
B
Was it Jason who called him a fake Adam Sandler? That's what that was giving me. You know, the basketball shorts, the. The big orange T shirt. You know, it's like, it looked like he's not trying, but he says, I'm actively making sure that nobody ever sees this dad bot on tv. Spoiler alert. We've seen.
E
Seen it.
B
And the people went wild. People were feral for Rick Devins and his death body. So, you know, I'm sure there'll be more of that throughout the season. So is there anything else we need to talk about from this episode? Because I. I think. I think people want us to talk about the spoilers. Right.
D
Can I.
C
Can I give, like, a smidge of a hot take that I've been treating your opinions on? Like, again, I have largely enjoyed a lot of Unlocked. I could kind of take or leave the, like, intern Andrew skits.
B
Ooh, we definitely just skipped it, so I think you might be right.
E
Yeah, I. It was cute or whatever. Lacking a little bit of diversity, we must say, and that maybe that is my biggest issue here with said intern Andrew. Write it down. But I would say it's funny, but we need Funnier people writing that skit.
C
It just means, like, snl, it's fairly harmless. You know, it's like a couple minutes long. And I like the concept of, like, talking to real Big Brother fans, but, like, it kind of feels weird that it's, like, through the lens of this random guy who I guess, much like Chappelle, has become his own Big Brother Unlocked character. Thank you. Like, and this. The trying to slop thing was interesting. I mean, listen, if there was a true Big Brother complaints department, I think that intern Andrew would have to go through the voluminous list of people talking about commu social media before getting to less air conditioning. Right.
B
More slop. Check out the slot, by the way. So I thought when they said there was a gripe department, I was like, of course there is, because Sam's there at the filming. I said, I know they're going to show Sam more, because if anybody's going to complain, it's my boy Sam. But, no, we got some fun clips there. I did appreciate Jerry and his behind the mirror, big shout out to Tara. That was so dope. I would pay good money to be able to just walk around looking through those mirrors at them, strategizing that. To me, that's what Big Brother's all about. Sasha.
E
Yeah, that was so cool. I. I really enjoyed the cameras. Like, how they must all be coordinating, right? Like, oh, we're not going to go to your camera now. We're going to that camera. That camera. It's just so interesting. Also, I didn't. I don't know why I didn't realize that there's not a person sitting in the diary room with them. Like, I thought that that was their one, like, human interaction, but I guess you're literally talking to a speaker and a camera. But I thought, like, the human was in the room.
C
I mean, I think.
B
I'm sure you have more insight.
C
Yeah, I mean, I think that, like, if it comes to, like, an emergency where someone needs. I mean, certainly During Big Brother 9, when we saw that medical emergency happen, doctors came in through that side door. I wouldn't be surprised if, like, in dire situations, like the aforementioned Audrey, they have brought people in there. But no, it is largely talking, hearing through that speaker and talking to that camera, I think. I mean, first off, like, I was obsessed with this because I feel like maybe not since the days of, like, big brother 1 have we been able to take such a big look. And just the idea of Jerry being there with, like, Angela and D in the kitchen, this was not some Sort of preseason house tour. Like, he was legitimately there behind the scenes. Scenes was so freaking cool. Like, yeah, this was dangling keys in front of our faces, but this is an angle we have not seen from the show in over a quarter of a century. And to be able to have to show just, like, how close the camera people are, and especially to remind everybody, which tickles me always to no end, that when people talk to Julie Chen Moonves and say, you're looking ravishing or hey, honey Moonves, they don't see her
E
or isn't there a little video or. No, it's just the noise. Oh, my God, that is so fake.
B
I think they see.
C
They do see her on the camera. In the living room.
E
Yeah, in the front, I guess. Yeah, in the living room.
B
And then they just hold on to their compliment until they get to it.
E
Got it.
B
I like this so much. I have to say thank you to Jerry o' Connell for being the super fan that he is that get us these. These views. But also to Taylor and to Derek, because these three, you can tell they're fans of the show, right? They played. The two of them have played the game. One of them is a super fan. And it's just nice to see people who really appreciate Big Brother just being able to kind of let loose a little bit, talk about it. Jerry gets them to let their hair down a little bit more, I think, compared to last season. But these views, these back stories that the extra family visits and stuff like that, I'm like, I'm loving it, so I don't really have any huge issues. BB Unlocked right now. I think they need to turn it up a little bit, give us more. More. But that's all I got. Mike.
C
Yeah, I mean, I think that people were talking when the. The concept of this second season was announced, that it was gonna be a little bit like the UK version, a bit on the side, which is less of a, like, ESPN talk show setting and more of like, hey, here's a bunch of little extra things. And they leaned in that direction, and I think it was the best decision they could have possibly made. Like, I am really, really enjoying Big Brother Unlocked. There's certain things that I can nitpick, but considering that, yes, as much as they were making fun of the gripes department, we brought back things like the packages from home, and even if they feel like they can't fit them into evictionite because of the blockbuster, now we have an outlet for, like, kind of all these odds and ends, but they still taste very, very Good. And so I'm not only so happy that it exists, but that it got retooled. I love Jerry here as well, because he is so, like, surefire in his opinions. And I think as content creators, we can all say that we love that. I think as much as, you know, we don't want to necessarily ever be lambasted on social media, I think there is a lot of power to someone that's being like, yeah, I love Haley. Fight me about it. And to be like, okay, I guess you do. And I think it is a moment that, like, helps kind of unify them as well against Jerry from some perspective. So I think he also. So even if he seems uninformed and certainly people disagree with him, I think that he's able to serve a very specific role that I think is kind of necessary in this format.
B
Sasha, any last words from BB Unlocked before we get into the spoilers?
E
No, it's just. I'm glad family visits are back. Now let's turn it up and bring in some unfriendly visits.
B
Bring in the exes. Remember when we used to bring in the exes?
E
I just. And Josh brought that energy, which we talked about. Right? Like that. Like, kind of not all happy. Go lucky calling lyric out. So we need. We need a little bit more of that sprinkled in. I think Jerry's trying that, but I need, like, someone to just face. Face head on. Say it. Say it to someone's face. I like it.
B
So that's it. That's our coverage of BB Unlocked. This is BB Unlocked. Unlocked. Sasha's here. Mike's here. We had such a great time talking about it. Let us know what you thought about BB Unlocked. Or do you hate it? Do you? It Let us know in the comments on our YouTube page. And then, of course, you know, show us some love on social media. Make sure you follow RHAP on all social media platforms. If you would like to avoid the spoilers, I think now is the time for you to leave. I don't have the spoiler music. I don't know if our producer backstage does either. Mike, do you have it? Because if not, I think we have to sing it.
C
Let me double check here just one second. I don't believe that we do. I have a lot of other random songs if you want punch, applause, intense train whistle.
B
Just pick one. Let's go. We gonna dance anyway.
C
All right, here comes the spoilers. Did you hear the train?
B
I hear nothing. We hear nothing.
C
This.
E
I'm dead.
B
Hey, y'. All, this is A spoiler. There you go. Work.
C
There we go. Perfect.
B
All right, we'll do breaking news here this time around. Mike, catch us up. What has been happening on the BB live feeds.
C
It's been so good, everybody. It has been so much fun. So, like I alluded to, the immediate aftermath of this vote had everybody in a tizzy, where again, as we saw on the episode, D, Angela, Chuck, Camus, and Yash all said that they voted for Melody to go. And so it has been a constant case of who done it, trying to figure out who's the person who did this. And it also has led to a lot of strife within the Cool Kids, where Haley said that she's out on comma. She think that Kamu's lying to them. Kamu's out on Chuck. We'll talk about that in a little bit. But all that is to say, it set things up perfectly for the wall competition. And people were looking at the. The wall being this week to think, okay, D's an endurance queen. Mallory has got the body frame. Kamu has grip strength for days. Camu did last a long time in the competition, but he was not the last one standing. And the last one standing in assumingly heels decor with the letters HOH is none other than lala.
B
We did it. We did it.
E
Oh, my God. I could not believe I woke up to that.
B
I stayed up. I stayed up. I had to go to work this morning, but I was not going to miss that wallcop because I think in the past, we have these big blind sides, and then we wake up the next day and be like, oh, this person won hoh. I think last year, I think with the Riley blind, it was like, we're all riding high. And then Vince1HOH was like, I don't know, y'.
C
All.
B
I don't know what we're gonna do now. You know, it was kind of. It was kind of a little, you know, iffy right there. This time around, I was like, no, I gotta be there because I need to see who's gonna win. They started the wall comp a little late, and so I was still up, you know, prepping. I was like, all right, I'm gonna be here for the long haul. I saw Sharon on Twitch. I saw Taryn, like, everybody. Everybody is just. Just on edge watching this.
C
And.
B
And one by one, they're falling. They lasted a lot longer than they did last season, if I'm not mistaken. But when it comes down to Lala and Kamu, I'm like, okay, can she pull it off. You know, people start asking, are they gonna make a deal? I'm like, he's not gonna make a deal with that woman. The feed's cut and we come back to lala. Walking around, inject it into my veins, Mike. The. The feeling of coming back to the Lala win. I need that every time, Tom.
C
Yeah, I mean, I wish we saw it actually happen, but, like, yeah, saving
B
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C
That button, I don't know, it was. It was kind of lame because we also don't know, like, did common slip? What was also really interesting about this wall competition, as we saw at the end of the episode tonight, is that this one was quite different. In the past, we've had either the bar you hold on to or the little hand holds, which either, you know, advantage the game towards smaller people or people with better grip strength. Race. This time they had to hold on to overhead handles. I think they did that last year as well. And apparently it was calibrated for their height, too. And so despite Lala, you know, having both her shoulders pop out and fall off over the course of 58 years of age, she held strong. And I believe, as Taryn said, I think from a civilian perspective, she is the oldest person to ever win the wall competition.
B
Oh, man. So good. So good.
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So Sasha Lala wins the hoh. What are you thinking she's going to do at that point? What would be your. Your, I guess your idea for the perfect HOH nominations?
E
Ma', am, so many people are against you. We just did a little, you know, switcheroo, a blind side. All this, that and the third. The red corner needs to go up or at Devin's because he nominated you. But again, someone gotta go up and I feel like my girl's a little.
C
A little along.
B
Right. So the feeds just came back, Mike, and we have some news. We didn't really talk about it in the unlock segment, but Mallory has won the BB Time Capsule and the nominations are set. Mike set the table for us. What's Mallory's punishment? Or I guess I should say advantage or power? And then who are our nominees?
C
Okay, so yeah, the first thing I think people discovered was that that we knew on the episode that Mallory won the time capsule. We found out very quickly that she did not win a prize. We did not need to speculate out the wazoo the way we did last week because she was decked out head to toe in ivy and standing about a foot and a half to her side was Melody. Mallory earned the infamous Adam and Eve punishment from Big Brother 16, which for those of you that don't know, meant that she had to. To essentially wear like these, this fig leaf type of unitard outfit and had to choose one person to be tethered to for the week. And she, I guess, wanted to hang out with her bestie, not Barrett bestie, because she decided to choose Melody. And now the littles are together for the week in more ways than one.
B
I love that punishment. I remember, was it Caleb and Victoria walking around as Adam and Eve? That was so cool. This is more like even Eve, Eve, Anna and Eve, as I'm seeing in the chat. But regardless, I don't, I don't know how I feel about picking your, like, number one ally to be tied to because Sasha, wouldn't you want to be able to divide and conquer and move around the house a little bit more freely?
E
Yeah. Like kayak punishment.
B
Right.
E
Like pick somebody that you want to get to know better, that, you know, you. You can stand, but you don't want to, like, be the person that you're just best friends with that can't. Can't really talk for you when you can't be in the room because you're now tethered to somebody. I don't know. But do you pick or just.
C
I believe, I believe that they pick. With Victoria and Caleb, it was because they had won the battle of the block. They were the people up on the block. But usually when it comes to being chained or tethered to somebody, you pick your partner. And so Mallory then.
E
Yeah, I think that's a little bit of a fumble. Maybe Taylor, because I feel like that's someone that they like. All the people again at the bottom kind of need to be talking more. So I wonder if Taylor or D, you know, someone like that has enough power, is power adjacent that could give you better power and alliances or even
C
like, if you need to talk, block them, you know, because that's the difficulty is if she picked D, how many conversations is the actually going to have with Mallory there considering that she knows firsthand from the very beginning Mallory has been targeting her. So I would imagine, I mean, we'll find out on. On Sunday why she picked her. It might have been more of a decision of comfort than numbers to use a Tony Blockos quote. And she decided, like, listen, this is going to be a very awkward situation. Let me let it be with somebody who, who I feel the most comfortable with when. Yeah, from a tactical perspective, there could have been other outs here. Yeah.
B
D is a great choice because, you know, the, the vets can't. They can't strategize around you if you're in the room. They can't. They can't all come together and decide to flip the vote at the last second because you're there watching. Right. And I think Taylor, another inspired choice because that'll get you into the HOH room the moment Lala wins hoh. I saw the tweets. Everybody's like, all right, so. So how's Taylor going to influence this? And throughout the day, Mike, we have been seeing Taylor's influence. Taylor has been working closely with Yash and decided that her and Yash were going to do a thing. Mike, you gotta. You gotta lace us up on these nominees. How do we get here?
C
Okay. Yeah, so I'm gonna. Before we get to the grand reveal, let's sort of talk through the journey of the day. Now, listen, I am no Taryn. I am the dollar store of dollar Store Terran. She's getting a much better breakdown tomorrow. But we started the day immediately coming out of the HOH competition with Lala saying that she wanted to nominate Drew, Barrett and Camus with Haley being the intended target that was going to get either backdoored or put up if the veto was used. As we should note, we're four for four on that. Four out of four Renoms have been evicted so far, so it could have been a five for five. Then throughout the day, things change a little bit. Bit. Drew comes up, gets very emotional with Lala talking about how, you know, she's a motherly figure to him in the house and this is his first time being away from home. And so Angela is also, like, in the oddest set of circumstances, defensive of Drew, protective of him, and tells Lala at one point amidst the many hugs and celebrations they had, no, we can't put Drew up. Drew, like, Drew could win something and get revenge on you.
B
You.
C
Why don't you put up Melody instead? And so Lala talks to Drew, talks to Melody and says, I don't know what I'm gonna do now. Because both Drew and Melody were, you know, working their asses up. The only person who wasn't working their ass off was Barrett, who literally responded being like, well, I don't like it, but I'm not going to tell you what to do. And he should have, because every other Person who was suggested as a nominee, me was talking Lala's ear off trying to avoid getting onto the block. And the creme de la creme came with Kamu because Kamu was one of the most locked in names. Like Lala was dead set on Barrett and she was dead set on Kamu. But Kamu came up and had this really big conversation with her and I, I will give it to him. Like, I think he was able to really get Talala, someone who had nominated, he had nominated two weeks ago, who she was looking to take an easy shot against and talk about all the ways that Chuck had kind of wronged her and wronged the people that she was closest with. Corroborated by Taylor, who will also come upstairs and talk about how Chuck has been scheming. Chuck has been throwing us under the bus. And so when we started the day, it was a Camu Drew Baron nomination with a Haley backdoor. And the plan coming out of this, as we saw from the nominations, was a Barrett, Haley Chuck nominees with Haley still being the target. And if she wins or if anyone else wins veto, Drew goes up as a pawn.
B
Sasha, what the hell is this?
E
It's the blind leading the blind, right? Like, it's like in our faves get into power, everything always goes to shit. Like why, why can't no one see the reality of what's going on? And here's the thing. I don't like Kamu. I don't agree with any of his views. But in the game perspective, is he gonna look out for Lala question mark?
B
No.
E
Then maybe, yeah, then maybe it makes sense for her to keep him. But I don't think so. I don't think he has it in him implicitly explicitly to work with her. I'm sorry, that's just the reality. And it's really frustrating as to how like Lala, maybe even Taylor, right, like, who's kind of right hand womaning her, like, are just not able to see the game board correctly. And like, how do they see Chuck as this like quote unquote mastermind when he was out on the vote.
B
Yeah. And still doesn't know who else voted. You know, like, he's confused about the three people that voted and he was one of them, you know, and so, yeah, I don't know if Chuck is the person they should be concerned about. I was so frustrated watching the feeds and watching Lala do these interviews with people because her, her plan of backdooring Haley, I already didn't agree with that. My to me, you Put all three of the red corner up there. They cannot save each other with the veto at that, at that point point, they will then be in the blockbuster together and then one of them will go, you will weaken that side no matter what. At first, Lala and Taylor are talking about maybe saving Chuck because Chuck out of nowhere just start kissing ass. And I don't give, I listen and I don't blame him. You, you playing big brother. Get in there, try to make whatever connection you can to, to survive. I ain't mad at it. Eventually they come off of that, but Lala is still hell bent on getting the Haley back door door to the point where Yash is in there, Kamu's coming in there and they're like, yeah, so it's the four of us, Yash, Kamu, Taylor and Lala. So what the hell? Where did this come from? And so somehow over the last couple hours while we were watching Unlocked, I guess they've been doing some more politicking. They end up going to nominations and Haley ends up on the block next to Chuck. But Barrett is that third spot. She doesn't want Barrett to go, but she is fully prepared on putting Drew up on the block if necessary. Mike, I just feel like she's fumbling this one.
C
I mean, as we know, Lala is easily suggestible. And I think yes, initially we thought this is going to be Taylor's hoh. I'm sure Taylor did as well. But yeah, Lala kind of is operating right now, or at least was today under the last person who said something to me type of mentality. And so again, I will give kudos to Kamu for getting in been that close to nominations after he was undone by having someone get so under the wire for the eviction itself to be able to push away. Now look, he is not out of the woods yet whatsoever because maybe he pushed things a little too much. He had actually suggested he was good on this plan to Lala but he suggested the Renam not be Drew but D because he said if your plan is to get rid of Haley, then D would be more likely to beat her at the blockbuster. And so there still might be some bristling there where if someone wins the veto and Kamu pushes that, there's still a chance that Lala decides to put Kamu up there. And if Barrett wins the veto or the veto is used on Barrett, there's that red corner nominations that everyone wanted at the beginning of the week.
B
And to be fair to Lala, she wasn't working with a Lot of these people in the house, right? So, like, they all get a go for her, you know, like, just. It's not like, oh, so loyal to the. I don't even know what the fake alliances she has, because there's just so many that don't matter.
C
Society.
B
She's definitely not loyal to that. Like, you know, they're not loyal to her. And so she can do whatever she wants here. I just. For me. For me and my liking. Because that's how I like to watch me, brother. When are you gonna do what I want to do, Sasha? When are they gonna give us what we need?
E
Yeah, and it's just. Here's the thing. I feel like what Lala isn't doing, and correct me if I'm wrong, is like, like, building relationships, right? Like, we're kind of just like, okay, this is what the X person has told me. Now I'm gonna react. Oh, now this is. This person told me. I'm like, she's just constantly on defense instead of kind of building something again. I don't want her to do anything with Kamu, but I'm just saying this is their reality. He's, like, talking to her, at least, like, snowing her a little bit in whatever way. So. So build something. Yash is right there too. It's just. I'm. Yeah. Just confused as to why, like, she's not noticing for herself that she doesn't have a crew. Jason's gone, Rome's gone. Where do we go from here?
B
She. She actually mentioned Rome because she was thinking about targeting Devins for, you know, getting out Rome. Like, Lala, listen, targeting Devin's for getting out Rome. A couple weeks ago, we got. We got problems right now. You know, we got some cop beasts on the other side of the house that you got to take out. And so that's what I was hoping that she do. Personally, I think Eminem's in the chat asking, what do you need, Chappelle? I need her to come out to the people who I want on the block. And I. I personally needed Haley, Chuck, and Kamu to just be on the block all week, sit next to each other, and then from, you know, my limited strategic knowledge, I would want them to then scramble against each other. You have to now campaign against this person. Now, what kind of deal can you make me, you know, make them have to appeal to you and what you need? And so I just feel like she. She kind of missed the mark on that. Still an early week or early in the week, Mike. We got plenty of Time. We've seen things change at the last four hours, so anything could happen.
C
That's my thing is even if she is like dead set on renaming Drew, those things can obviously change, especially if lala is liable to change her mind as much as she has experienced over the past 24 hours. And again, we have immediate past precedent to show that even if it is like, you know, Barrett and Chuck on the block by eviction night, that the icons could say, like, hey, it's no half measure. We took a shot at the red corner last week. We gotta like actually get into it this week and take out Chuck. So I'm not ready to write this week in stone whatsoever. It's written in the sand and we'll see what the tide is going to bring. Either way, I'm just taking enjoyment out of the fact that Haley is nominated. You know, we, we now instead of getting the three days of Haley on the block if she was back door, now we're getting like the initial experience which again, I can't imagine what's been going through her head from the high highs of sitting up in that hoh bed all week long thinking that she was ready to get rid of the mean girl melody to now being nominated on the block 24 hours later. Like, big brother hits you hard. And so I cannot wait to see and also, also hopefully see a little bit more shifting and infighting between this cool kids group. We saw it on unlocked. We saw a lot of it happen in the past little while. Again, kamu was a large reason why Chuck was on the block. I think that. I don't think this trio is going to be long for the game as much as we may have assumed as recent as last week.
B
Sasha, anything else on the live feeds before we wrap up?
E
No, I'm. I'm excited. It's just I. The more we talk about it, the more I'm realizing, like, for us, lala winning was great, but in reality, does that actually change much for the game? And I don't. I don't know the answer anymore because she is such a, like, not well connected. I'll just leave it at that. So an interesting, like way to look at it and yeah, I'm excited to see what happens now.
C
We're going to be, I think losing a member of the tool shed and granted that might be a ramshackle a lot alliance at this point, but it's not something we could have said the first four weeks of the game.
B
This has been so fun. I'm so happy that y' all were able to join me on this night. I, I, you know, it's been a, it's been a hell of a night and so, yeah, of course, whatever. Something very embarrassing happens to me. Sasha has to be there. But Mike, of course, so happy to have you here too. Sasha, tell everybody what you're working on and what you have going on in your world right now.
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B
Thank you so much, Sasha. Mike, what about you?
C
Well, first off, thank you so much for having me on again. I am so incredibly happy for you to get your flowers, for getting to sit down here every single other week and talk about all this nonsense. For you to get acknowledged by said nonsense means the absolute world to me. I cannot imagine how you're feeling right now. I'm just, I'm having a great time at this moment. It's been a great 36 hours hours to be a Big Brother fan. They say it, but it really bears repeating when it is good. It is so freaking good and it has been so freaking good and hopefully I've got so freaking good stuff for you as well. I talked with Lyric. That was a great time. Got. I was, I think I was the first one to break to her like what actually went down with the last minute vote Flip. So got her reaction to that, to maybe Melody and Mallory's very adverse reaction to her throwing them under the bus. She had some very interesting word associations. So check that out. Rob and I are doing the Survivor time trip where we are talking every week about an iconic episode of Survivor with a Survivor alum. And I can queue or I set up, I suppose this week because it's coming in less than 24 hours. We talked with Ethan Zahn about the very first, first swap episode of Survivor from Survivor Africa. Not only the first episode but like the first major Survivor twist, the first ever challenge throw that happened in Survivor history. So Ethan was able to offer a lot of great perspectives there. Last thing I will plug. The challenge just came out without spoiling too much. I'm doing Exit press and the people who were in the line of fire this week are very Big Brother code voted. So if you are a part of the Big Brother fandom and you want to hear from these people about either their time on the challenge or maybe their thoughts on Big Brother 28, check that out as well. I'll be putting out everything I do on my social media at a Mike Bloom type.
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Okay. This is such a niche reference. Apologies in advance. Is Lyric giving like Red Oyster? Yeah.
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Date: August 8, 2026
Hosts: Chappelle, Mike Bloom, Sasha Joseph
Main Theme: Recapping Week 5 of Big Brother 28, with emphasis on the most recent blindside, the evolving role of "chaos demons" (dynamic, unpredictable players), the influence of returning and crossover reality stars, the effectiveness of the "Unlocked" format, and detailed discussion of current live feed dynamics and spoilers.
This week’s “BB28 Unlocked Week 5 Recap” is a fast-paced, hilarious, and insightful discussion covering the Week 5 Big Brother 28 events, most notably the remarkable eviction blindside, the increasing prominence of reality TV “vets” and “chaos demon” players, the expanded family/fandom elements, and the real-time impact of BB Unlocked as both a recap and feeder for live feed spoilers. The hosts—Chappelle, Mike Bloom, and Sasha Joseph—bring their trademark blend of sharp analysis, personal anecdotes, and palpable joy over RHAP’s growing recognition within the Big Brother universe.
| Timestamp | Segment/Event | |---------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:15–07:32 | RHAP's BB Unlocked shout outs and cultural visibility | | 10:58–12:44 | Devins family recap and fandom immersion | | 16:18–19:23 | Blindside breakdown: “Brown thugs day” blitz and strategic debate | | 27:22–29:27 | Josh Martinez’s transformation and possible return | | 34:21–34:45 | Vital role of chaos players, archetypes & casting | | 43:07–44:41 | Haley as “Real Housewives” coded villain; why BB needs clear villains | | 50:33–52:25 | Assessment of BB Unlocked format, skippability, and value | | 62:49–64:44 | Behind-the-scenes segment: camera/observation tour and diary room trivia | | 68:51–89:14 | Spoiler section: Live feeds and nominations post-wall comp |
Stop reading if you wish to avoid spoilers!
The BB28 Unlocked Week 5 Recap delivers an energetic, insightful analysis of one of the season’s wildest weeks. Panelists celebrate RHAP’s newfound cultural relevance, the necessity of “chaos demons” for great TV, the joy of family and crossover moments, and the often hilarious, occasionally infuriating unpredictability of the house. Spoiler-driven, feed-oriented coverage makes this essential listening for anyone needing to catch up on the week’s drama, with clever commentary on casting, editing, and fandom to boot.
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