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David Bloomberg
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Chappelle
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David Bloomberg
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David Bloomberg
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David Bloomberg
Moana in theaters Friday. Rated PE for rental guidance suggested get tickets now. Welcome to the why Blank Lost preview podcast for Big Brother 28. David I'm David Bloomberg, and if you're watching us on video, you have already realized that the guy sitting next to me is not Ovi Kabir. We released a short video last week to note that Ovi's schedule was such that he would unfortunately not be able to continue with the podcast and to announce my incredible new co host For Big Brother. Chappelle, welcome.
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Chappelle
No, I'm Jessica Lewis.
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David Bloomberg
Yes, yes, yes.
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Chappelle
No, it's me, it's me. I'm Chappelle. I'm here. I'm very excited to be trying to fill the big shoes that OV has as a former player, someone who's, you know, has played the game, who's experienced the Big Brother house. But I'm just a big fan. I like to talk about Big Brother, and I'm very excited that David has extended this invitation to me to talk about the rules that he has for why these people are going to lose Big Brother. And we finally got a cast, so I'm dying to talk about all of the things and to join you for this entire season.
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David Bloomberg
Yes, yes, me too. And, you know, you mentioned Jessica Lewis. She did do Big Brother for one season, and then she was like, no, no, I'm good. No, no, I'm good. I'll do Survivor. I'm not doing Big Brother anymore.
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Chappelle
Smart lady. You know, this show could take a lot out of you. I mean, playing the game is crazy, but being a fan of Big Brother is exhausting as well. But luckily for, for you and for the listeners, I'm, I'm, I'm not new to this. I've been watching the Big Brother live feeds for a very long time. I'm tapped in. I try to keep up with everything. So, yeah, I, I'm battle tested and ready to go through this marathon of a season.
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David Bloomberg
Yeah, yeah. You're not kidding about taking a lot out of you. That season that she did was Big Brother All Stars. I ended up in the hospital for 10 days at the end of that season.
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Chappelle
So, you know, that was a stressful one for all of us, actually.
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David Bloomberg
Yes. Yes. All right, well, for those of you who may not watch the Survivor, why blank lost, I presume that's only because you don't watch Survivor and you, you just watch Big Brother. But aside from that, as we mentioned in the announcement video, Chappelle, you've been a guest several times on that version, and it's always great when you get to show the combination of your strategic and fun sides, which you'll be doing here all summer long.
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Chappelle
Yeah, I, I'm known for my sloppier takes. You know, it gets a little NSFW sometimes with me behind the paywall here on rhap, but, you know, here in front of the paywall, I think that we're gonna get a lot more of my strategic chops, and I'm just gonna make it A little sloppier. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm very prepared to bringing a little bit of me to YX Lost and maybe just adding a little bit of a different flavor to this podcast that people love so much.
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David Bloomberg
All right, looking forward to that.
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David Bloomberg
Now, we are, of course here to Talk about the BBA BB28 cast that was just released earlier today. As we record this, many people have been, as you mentioned, anxiously awaiting this cast reveal, more than any I can remember because of all the rumors that have been swirling for weeks now about returning players and people from other shows potentially being on the cast. And let me tell you, some of those rumors were just flat out crazy. Like there was one that people seriously kept telling me about. Russell Hance is going to be on. No, Russell Hans is never going to be on a CBS show again. Stop it. It's not going to happen. But people were running with any little crumb they could find.
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Chappelle
Big Brother. Putting another hands in the house would be crazy because I don't know if the viewers remember, but we've tried the hands experiment over here in Big Brother and it did not go well. Big shout out to Willie, wherever he is. I hope whoever's around him is very saf. Yeah, putting Russell in the Big Brother house sounds like a mistake. I heard some other rumors as well. I heard Jonathan Young, and I thought, well, why would he. But I thought, why would he want to do Big Brother? It seems like such, like, the antithesis of who he is. He's such an outdoorsy guy. Why would he want to lock himself in the house? I also heard this weird rumor. I think it was started by a guy named David. It said like, OV was going to be really busy during the summer, and so, you know, maybe he might be.
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David Bloomberg
I did accidentally start some rumors that way. You know, I. It didn't occur to me that that was going to happen, but as soon as I posted it, it was popping up all over the place and I was like, oh, yeah, that's kind of funny, actually. So, I mean, you know, we.
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David Bloomberg
We have found out three of. Or the three, I'm not sure which. I believe it's three of the special people who are coming. One returning and two people from Survivor, and we will be discussing those here. We have not found number 17 yet. Oh, and there's a lot of belief that. Well, wait, no. Is.
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Chappelle
I think that's it. Yeah, I think. I think our Big Brother attorney is number 17. Yeah.
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David Bloomberg
Okay. Well, technically, our Survivor winner attorney is number 17 because she's not going to be announced until Friday. You're right. You're right. So darn it ov, if you were in sequester, you know, I'm sorry you didn't. But yeah, we will be discussing those other three, and in doing so and going through all them, we want to give you our first thoughts and also add a bit of something you won't get anywhere else by discussing a little bit about how we think each of them will do in terms of my rules for winning Big Brother. And, you know, let me tell you, from the initial interviews I saw, there were some who I think will do well and others maybe won't do so well. And at the end, now, I will say I didn't see as many immediately bad ones this season as I did last season.
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Chappelle
Yeah, I was watching the interviews as well, thinking, oh, did we find fans of the show? Because last season those people were brazenly talking about how, you know, I Google some stuff. I looked at ChatGPT about how to win Big Brother, and it was an embarrassment of a season. There was so much bad gameplay throughout that season. People who I hope to never see play Big Brother again, respectfully, I see. I feel like they're nice people wherever they are. Just, I don't want to see them do this again. And so this time around, we heard some from some live feed watchers. A lot of people said, I've been watching the show since I was a child, or at least I watched it when I was a child. And so it felt very promising in contrast to, you know, some of the interviews we saw last year.
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David Bloomberg
Yeah. So, you know, last season I believed Keanu when he said that he had watched a number of seasons, and I made him my winner pick. And shortly thereafter, I was rooting to lose my winner pick. So,
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Chappelle
David, last season, I'm pretty sure you were high on Keanu. Adrian as well, was another standout for you, if I'm not mistaken.
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David Bloomberg
You know, and Morgan would be first out.
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Chappelle
Yeah, you. I, you know, and I'm pretty sure that OV picked Ashley as his winner pick. So I'm. I'm coming here to fill Obi's shoes, David, because it was a rough year for you last year.
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David Bloomberg
It was. It was. And I have learned to be more skeptical. I am known for being skeptical normally. I've learned to be more skeptical specifically of these interviews and. And to try to read into what they're not saying. I also think we have fewer brazen liars this time. That will play out. We'll find out for sure. But I. I think that there was a lot of just outright lying last time.
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Chappelle
Yeah. And don't get me wrong, I won't be too hard on you because I. There was a couple things you did clock. You know, they did well in the game, but you can't convince me that Ava Pearl followed the rules, you know, relatively closely. Kelly Jorgensen, also another person who went very far but did not follow the rules. And so, you know, one thing I'm sure we're going to talk about today is that you can follow the rules, but that doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win. And you can also not follow the rules and go very far into the game. Big Brothers are a wild type of game to kind of conceptualize.
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David Bloomberg
Yeah. And it's especially made, you know, more difficult with the blockbuster being around again, because there's no rule that says be a comp threat.
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Chappelle
Right.
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David Bloomberg
Be good at carnival games, be good at putting together puzzles. You know, it's just something you either are or you aren't. And that's how many of the people who did not follow rules did not understand the game at all, in some cases just managed to hang around.
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Chappelle
Have you thought about an addendum to the rules to include competition prowess? Because I know, like, I know you haven't done that in Survivor, but I. The individual challenges in Big Brother are arguably even more important these days. I mean, like, you. You correctly assessed that Morgan might be a little bit extra when it comes to the gaming, but, you know, she was decently enough, you know, as far as, like, socially, like strategically, she was cool, but her real superpower was those competitions. Right. There was just about a month where she was untouch and there was nothing anybody could do. And if it wasn't for, you know, Ashley pulling out a really clutch win at the end, Morgan probably wins the entire season. So it's just very interesting now to see how. How well these challenges or how being good at challenges is going to impact your game. I mean, we saw Rachel Riley lose basically because of one challenge.
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David Bloomberg
Yes. Yes. It's something I've considered. I was going to take a look at the rules, maybe move some stuff around. I hadn't planned to put that in there, but, you know, there's a rule in the Survivor version about know how to deal with idols, rules and advantages, and I do think I need to incorporate that at some point into Big Brother. Not idols, obviously, but special powers rules, and maybe comps is one of them. Know when to throw when to win. You know, being good at comps. I, I, I don't know that that can really be a rule. Like, you either are, you aren't. You either get lucky or you get unlucky, like Rachel did, you know, and, and so you can be good at all sorts of comps. I mean, Tucker. And then he put in a puzzle piece backwards and was gone.
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Chappelle
Yeah. I think your point about knowing what to do with the competition is probably more important. Right. Like, so, yeah, let's say you're good at comps, but you don't need to win every comp, you know, because that puts you in a situation where the first time you lose, the people are going to want you out. Those very interesting choices last season to throw the blockbuster. What, like people were willingly throwing challenges that would put them on the block at elimination night, like up for the vote. You know, we saw people actively going into the blockbuster be like, yeah, I'm probably going to throw it. I don't know. You know, those things are actively bad, brother, because, you know, throw the challenges to hoh, you know, throw a veto if you don't want to show your hands. But throwing a blockbuster is actually crazy.
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David Bloomberg
Yes. Yes. So. Well, we've been talking about the rules. It, it does occur to me for those people who may not be familiar with us, once the season starts and people you know are getting voted out, we will be here each week, usually by Saturday mornings, sometimes little later on Saturdays to discuss what happened and how they did overall in terms of these rules for winning that I originally wrote way back in 2004 and have modified over the years. Now, the most recent version, it's a few years old, the most publicly available one, it's on robhazawebsite.com BigBrother Rules. Like I said, it's a, it's a little old, but it has the main concepts in there and the basics kind of. The titles of the rules are Rule one, scheme and plot. Rule two. But don't scheme and plot too much and keep your scheming secret. And don't backstab until you absolutely need to. Rule three, be flexible. With the key being you can't just tie yourself to one alliance and hope that it survives. Rule four, don't let your emotions control you. Rule five, pretend to be nice, Play the social game. Now, there's a lot of sub subtitles to this one, like, act like an adult. Don't drink too much. Don't be lazy or show your bad habits. Keep your politics and controversial beliefs to yourself. You know, this is obviously a lot of those are important when you're spending 24. 7 with people. Rule 6, don't be too much of a threat. Rule 7, trust almost nobody, especially deals made during comps and appendix A. We will get to the jury phase eventually.
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Chappelle
Yeah, these are solid rules, David. I think that, I think that for, you know, the big ones, right, like keep your personal. Your politics and your, your. Your abnormal behaviors as well. You know, like, don't get me wrong, like, you can be yourself, but the goal is to assimilate. You don't want anybody thinking we need to get rid of you because you are hiding bugs in the house. You know, we don't need those things to come up as a reason to get voted out. We should be able to just like, put all that stuff to the side and focus on gameplay. And so, yeah, I think that's a really big one that people need to pay attention to.
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David Bloomberg
Yes, yes. And a lot of these players, that was their almost or sole focus, as we'll see. What's your strategy? I'm going to make friends with everyone in the house. Oh, great strategy. Thanks. Okay, that'll. That'll do it. Just. You'll be everybody's friend. No problem. So we'll, we'll have more to say about those individuals shortly because now it's time to dive into the players. Based on the information and videos that were released yesterday, interviews by Mike Bloom and Parade, there's a lot of overlap between those two. It's not clear to me if the video. Some of the videos were word for word the same thing that was in the interviews Mike had. So they may have been clipped from it or sometimes people just come in and they say the same thing over and over again. We will hit a few high points for each one, probably a few low points, and rate them on a scale of 1 to 10 for how well we think they'll do in following my rules. Now, of course, as we've already discussed, we are basing this off of very limited information and hopefully it won't happen as much this time. But sometimes players flat out lie. Maybe casting told them to, maybe production told them to. Maybe they just want to make themselves look better. Whatever it is, hopefully we. Like I said, we don't have another Keanu saying, oh, I've watched quite a few seasons when he'd seen some YouTube video clips, and I am very certain, as you mentioned, I will do much better this year. It is slightly possible we could be wrong with these. Slightly.
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Chappelle
Yeah. A Little bit. Like, I. I trust you when I hear you talking about your rules for Survivor, but the rules for Big Brother, you know, there. There's a good outline, but the way the show works is there's so many shenanigans in Big Brother and then we bring in people who literally don't know what game they're playing. And so, you know, we can hope for the best. I really do hope these people are able to follow the rules and see if they can stick around a lot longer because it's also a headache when people aren't doing crazy things in Big Brother. But Big Brother is such a fun show to watch regardless. So, yeah, I'm very intent on finding out who is going to be the rule follower of the season.
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David Bloomberg
Yes. All right, well, we will start. We go in alphabetical order and we will start with. Let's see here. I can. Ashley. I'm gonna make it a little bit. There we are. We're a little bigger now. Look at us.
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Chappelle
Okay.
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David Bloomberg
People listening to us are going. Instead of on video are like, what are you talking about? Don't worry. We've got a picture of Ashley up because these are new. And, you know, Big Brother did some weird stuff with some of these pictures. They did the basic picture, but then they did the weird ones. We're going to show you the weird ones. So Ashley is 24. She's an attorney originally from Alton, Illinois. She's not an attorney. She's a bartender. Why did I have attorney attorney later?
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Chappelle
Last season's Ashley was an attorney. So it's an easy mistake.
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David Bloomberg
You know what? Probably what it is. I probably. I copied it over. I probably copied it over and did that. She is originally from Alton, Illinois, which for those of you who are not familiar with Illinois geography, that is closer to St. Louis, but now she lives in Chicago. So speaking of the other Ashley, we have an Ashley with a Chicago connection in her mid-20s. I think we've. We've seen that before. But I don't think we'll get back to back Ashley winners this time, you know, with that.
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Chappelle
Well, you know, this Ashley did sound like she sounded promising. You know, I think for her to go first, you know, it could have been way worse. Right. So she talks about how she was a big fan of Big Brother when she was younger, and I had to laugh because she's 24. So she was born in, what, 2002. So, you know, when she said she was a fan of Big Brother when she was younger, I'm like, when did you start watching you know, like, you know, just a we last. I mean, I mean one of the. One of the contestants gonna say they were watching in the womb, but at least we have people who are willing to say no. I remember growing up watching this show, I think she said she watches the live feeds as well. And all to me, yes, all that's promising, David.
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David Bloomberg
She said she was a live feed viewer and a big brother doom scroller on her phone. So, yeah, I feel you there, Ashley.
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Chappelle
Relatable.
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David Bloomberg
And so, yeah, I'm rooting for her because of the Chicago and Illinois connection. I'm rooting for her as a live feed viewer. But her strategy that she described is rather generic. The same thing. Same sort of thing. Rely on her social ability. Yeah, I mentioned that earlier when comps have a super strong alliance.
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Chappelle
Okay.
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David Bloomberg
It's good that you know what an alliance is. But yeah, obviously it really doesn't tell us much. I am happy to see her say, well, I don't lie in real life, but I'm looking forward to backstabbing in the game because yes, good. We like to see people make that differentiation between the game in real life. Presuming she sticks to it. She is also one person among like almost half the cast who says they're going to play dumb.
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Chappelle
It's. I think this is naturally comes when you're casting for a television show and you are looking for pretty people because I think that a lot of pretty people will say, oh, you know, people just look at me and my beauty and they don't think about my brains. Right. And so we're going to get that over and over again. People think I'm ditzy, people, I'm going to play it down. I mean, our last season winner, she said the same thing, like I'm going to play dumb and then, you know, hopefully people won't really look at me as a threat too much. I don't know if that necessarily worked for last season winner because she definitely, you know, at times showed that she was very smart. But it was like socially was more her issue. It really wasn't that anybody didn't think she was a threat. It's just like kind of she was known to put her foot in her mouth. This, this woman, Ashley. I don't know if she gives me that same vibe that she's going to say the wrong thing. You know, I think if anything, I really wonder if she's going to be able to. To be as cutthroat as she wants. Right. Because she talks about her morals. I'm not fibbing. I'm not lying normally, but I'm like, okay, but can you turn it on? Is it possible to be completely like a completely moral, honest person all the time in real life and then come here and live a double life? I don't know.
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David Bloomberg
Yeah. Yeah, we'll find out about that
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David Bloomberg
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Chappelle
Like, like if you would just like superimpose your rules over this. I think a lot of it encompasses what she's talking about, but it's just like it's. Her version is like the most mundane version of it, right? Like be social, be best friends with everybody, hopefully win, have strong alliances that. Yeah, that's it. If you, if you did put into chat GPT how to play big brother, I think that's what it would tell you. So it doesn't make me feel super strong about her, but I don't have a Lot of red flags either. You know, maybe the biggest red flag being that her name is Ashley. You know, that, you know, people are going to. People are going to say, like, oh, you know, we had an Ashley last season. Maybe we need to be concerned about that. But if she's as much of a fan as she is, I think she'll be able to slide into a good spot. But I think 5 is a really good rating.
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David Bloomberg
Okay. All right, we can move on to Barrett. He is a Jumbotron engineer, which I did not know was a thing, but it makes sense. Someone's got to take care of those suckers. He is 27 in Austin, Texas, and he immediately gives me good Big Brother vibes just from looking at him and hearing what he has to say. He is clearly a super fan. This has been already in just the few hours that we've known. This has been verified by multiple sources. He's done Big Brother podcasts. He was shown in a photo with Angela. You know, I mean, they weren't right next to each other. They were a little bit apart, but they were at the same. In the same photo at a premiere party. I think it was last year. He's been applying forever. Watching since he was a kid, of course. Does live feeds says he's chronically online. He is, as they say, one of us. One of us.
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Chappelle
Very much so. I'm pretty sure that this man is six foot six. I mean, look at this picture. Yes, he's gigantic. And so I guess you have to be to be a jumbotron engineer. But to me, that's honestly the only thing that really makes me take pause is that, like, he's so tall. I don't think it's easy to downplay your threat level if you're like, you know, lumbering around the house. But I like everything I heard as far as him being one of us. I love rooting for a super fan. It's my favorite thing to do. You know, if you are a fan of the show, I would like to see you do better because I know so many people get on this show for the, you know, influencer reasons, or they were bored, they got recruited at a bar. Whatever the case may be, this is somebody who's passionate about the game. So I know they're going to play hard. You know, I think the downside is that we've seen superfans in overalls before. I don't want to bring up Frenchie, but it was. It was an entertaining three, what, two, three weeks? David. But it wasn't Great.
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David Bloomberg
I was thinking the Rob Roush overalls, not the Frenchie overalls.
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Chappelle
No, no, no. We have our, we have overalls here at home and Big Brother. And it was a super fan who was online.
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David Bloomberg
Yes.
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Chappelle
And he did a lot of stuff in the short amount of time he was in the house. He made an impact for sure, but I don't think he followed your rules.
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David Bloomberg
Yeah, I, I, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm gonna say Barrett is no Frenchie. He is not Frenchie 2.0. So I, I, I think he will be. Well, he said he's going to try to essentially follow my, you know, Rule 6 and not be too much of a threat, and I think he'll be able to keep that hidden for a while. It's difficult because, you know, when people are saying stupid things and you know the right answer, you just want to correct them and, and that's hard to not do. So that'll be his, his hardest part, I think, when someone says, oh, Yeah, I remember Dr. Will's funeral, you know, or something like that. And he's not Dr. Wills, so.
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Chappelle
Yeah, I can see that. You know, we gotta, we gotta comb through these bios, you know, and really look for the things that stand out. I'm a firm believer if somebody tells you a red flag about them, you gotta believe it. And he says he wears his emotions on his sleeve now, I'm sure. Yeah, that is not great for a Big Brother player. Now, don't get me wrong, we've had emotional Big Brother player winners before. You know, it happens. And if they do win, it's normally a very entertaining game, but it's not pretty. You know, it's, it's normally they're ups, they're down. There are fights, there's wins, there's clutch, Veto wins. If he is to win and still be someone who is being emotional and kind of saying what's on their mind, it'll be a fun game to watch, but it will be a harder game to win.
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David Bloomberg
Yes. Yeah, I, I don't know, maybe I'm overconfident in him here. Even though I don't know him and just met him online, you know, through this, you know, a little while ago, I think he can control it. I think a lot of people who say they have trouble with emotions, you know, can keep it boxed up when they need to. You know, it's kind of like, I remember my old boss, I was up for a promotion, and my boss was like, I don't know, David, I saw that email that you sent, you know, to your co worker there and you, you can't talk to people that way. Now, one, I didn't know he had carbon copied her on it, so when I hit reply all, oops.
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Chappelle
But
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David Bloomberg
two, he deserved it. And three, yeah, I was to that guy. But meanwhile, in. In my job, I was talking to, you know, mayors and people in the state House of Representatives and all that, and even if they said stupid things, I wasn't going to send them an email like that. You know, how to. To, you know, keep everything in their proper boxes. That's what I had to explain to my boss was like, no, you need to understand this here. And so I'm hoping that Barrett is like that.
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Chappelle
Okay, so high rating from you.
- [30:48]
David Bloomberg
Yes, I, I am giving him an 8 or how I think he's going to follow my rules. I just, I'm giving him a lot of credit. But he, he does Big Brother podcasts, strategy podcasts.
- [31:06]
Chappelle
Yeah, I hear you, but I'm not as high because I think that the Big Brother super fans that I know that are online, we're an opinionated bunch. We. It's hard. It's hard for us to not talk our trash when it comes to Big Brother. You know, right now. The tweets, the skeets, the chat, bcc, they're all in flames right now.
- [31:26]
David Bloomberg
Right.
- [31:26]
Chappelle
Because people are saying their opinions about stuff, and I just don't think this person is going to be able to not take those moments to be a big character at the detriment of their game. So I would probably go with like a six.
- [31:42]
David Bloomberg
Okay.
- [31:43]
Chappelle
Yeah.
- [31:43]
David Bloomberg
All right, we will see. Well, next up we have Chuck spelled away. I have never seen it spelled before with.
- [31:54]
Chappelle
No, see, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it's probably short for like a. A longer name because I think he says he's a first generation, or I think he says maybe he's an immigran. So maybe it's like short for something longer than, like, then.
- [32:06]
David Bloomberg
Yes, probably.
- [32:07]
Chappelle
Yeah.
- [32:09]
David Bloomberg
He is 27. He is a supply chain analyst in Dallas, Texas. So already we've got two people in Texas here.
- [32:17]
Chappelle
Yeah.
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David Bloomberg
Now, when I first saw Chuck on the Broville, he talked about playing a, quote, masterful social game. I was like, yeah, sure, whatever. But then the more he talked about, the more I realized I liked him. His social game was actually working on me. I was like, what is happening here? This cannot possibly be happening. But it did. I. I really do think he has a good social game.
- [32:45]
Chappelle
I feel like this is my. My Keanu of the season. I don't believe this, man. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. Yeah, I. He says, I'm going to do something different. I'm going to try to go into the house and win the women over first. I just called. You know, it's very different for the big muscle guy to go in and try to get in good with the girls early on. You know, I don't know if he thinks he's going to be a part of the all girls alliance because, you know, Frenchie, we already saw that and how that worked out. But to me, I really think Chuck knows what he's talking about. I think that this man is a very casual fan of the show. I think he's got big muscles and he was dying to be on tv. And I do not. I don't see it yet, David.
- [33:27]
David Bloomberg
Oh, no. I mean, I was just talking about the social. That's all I was talking about there because, yeah, I have. I have the same thoughts as you when it comes to the getting in the women. My notes say I'll believe it when I see it. And he acknowledged he was a casual viewer. It does seem like he's watched. He. Like, he knows you have to lie in the game, but also you can look at him and know he's going to do well in comps, probably. So I'm. I, I think he has potential, but I could also see it going the wrong way very quickly. So I'm giving him. Right middle of the road with a five.
- [34:10]
Chappelle
Oh, yeah. I have to go lower because at least I think Ashley knows what she's talking about. I don't think this man knows what he's talking about. There's a. I think there's a line where he says, I'm going to be in with all the women, but I'm also going to be a guy's guy at the same time. So who are you gonna put on the block, Chuck? You know, like, you. You just, you're just in with everybody but this. And again, this is a very physical man. It's not like I don't. I. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see Chuck as the type of person. I'm just gonna come in and throw all the competitions so I can stay good socially with people. They're going to be looking for him to use some of his athleticism or even some of his intelligence.
- [34:44]
David Bloomberg
Right.
- [34:44]
Chappelle
He talks about how he's an academic decathlon person, I think. So it's like, you have all those things, and I expect you to expect me to believe you about to come in and just play the social game, and none of your competitions are going to. No, no. I feel like this man is about to come in and piss off everybody and so very excited to see it happen. Okay, I give him a four. A four.
- [35:04]
David Bloomberg
Okay, well, you've convinced me to revise it down to a four.
- [35:07]
Chappelle
Oh, okay. Coming with me? Yeah. I think. I think if Ashley is our baseline, then I can't put him higher than Ashley, so. Yeah.
- [35:15]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. I can't put him the same as Ashley. Yeah, that was when you pointed that out. I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
- [35:19]
Chappelle
Yeah. She's not. She's not. We don't see any broken rules with Ashley, and I. I think I see a couple with him.
- [35:25]
David Bloomberg
Yeah.
- [35:26]
Chappelle
Yeah.
- [35:27]
David Bloomberg
All right, we can move on to Drew, who is 22. I believe he's the youngest cast member. He is a surgical dental assistant in California. And, okay, that's his job. But he's also been on Beast Game season one. He's also appeared in a series of videos I don't know anything about and didn't have time to look into, but he was well known enough in the series of videos for people to immediately recognize.
- [35:55]
Chappelle
Okay, was it Jubilee?
- [35:58]
David Bloomberg
Yes, I think so. That sounds right. I don't know what that is.
- [36:01]
Chappelle
Yeah, I think Jubilee is those videos where it's like, one person debates a whole room of people. You might have seen these before where they're sitting in a chair, and then everybody runs up to the front of the. To sit and debate them, and then they. They kind of rotate in and out. I'm pretty sure those are the Jubilee videos. I don't know if that's the kind of video he was in, but I'd be interested to see especially what he was debating, because since he was that recognizable, he must have made an impact.
- [36:24]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. Yeah. So you know what all this means is being on camera is not new to him. Like, so many of the other people this season. He says he's watched since he was 8 years old. It was a very specific number. I don't know if a number of people came in and said, I've watched since I was a kid. And production was like, well, specify, because 8 was used by at least three different people as when they were. When they started watching. He said he dabbles in live feeds, but asked us not to kill him if he's not the biggest fan watching feeds. So he understands Live feed viewers too.
- [37:01]
Chappelle
He gets it. What is, let's see, eight years old would have put that around 2010. So what's that? Big Brother 12. It's not a bad time to start watching Big Brother.
- [37:12]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [37:13]
Chappelle
Okay.
- [37:16]
David Bloomberg
So he says he doesn't have a set strategy and he says, quote, I don't love the question of what your strategy is going to be because I feel like every season you have to know who's going to be there. I have no idea who's going to be there. And it has to adapt. So I would say my strategy going in there is just being, is just going to be fluid. And that's great for following my third rule, but I do think you need to be ready to play and have some ideas before you get there.
- [37:43]
Chappelle
Yeah, I don't like this. I don't like this answer at all. I just don't agree that you could watch the show since you were 8 years old and not have a general idea for what you would do in any in, in situations. Right. Like we talk about Ashley being generic, but at least she knew get an alliance, right?
- [37:59]
David Bloomberg
Get.
- [37:59]
Chappelle
Make the friends. You know, this, that he's like, I gotta see who's gonna be in there before I decide. You gotta see who's gonna be in there before you decide to get in a big alliance. No, you don't. He's like, you get, you say yes, you say yes to the all know. So I have questions about him, but he does seem fun and so, and I think he is a rule breaker. David, I don't, I think if we're talking about people who are not going to follow your rules. Yeah, I think he is one who is I going to try to make his own?
- [38:24]
David Bloomberg
I have a lot of, I have a few red flags I want to bring up here.
- [38:28]
Chappelle
Okay.
- [38:28]
David Bloomberg
So he said he's going to pretend to not be as smart as he is and added, I feel like if there is a secret that I'm going to withhold, it's going to be how smart I am. Maybe my job. I mean, being a surgical dental assistant kind of has like a smart person connotation to it. And I'm like, okay, no offense to surgical dental assistants.
- [38:49]
Chappelle
Yeah, watch it, David.
- [38:51]
David Bloomberg
Does it, does it, does it have that connotation? Not to me. I'm not saying like they're dumb or anything because believe me, I've had plenty of surgical dental work and I don't want dumb people poking around in there. But it's not like he's a lawyer Or a brain surgeon or a rocket scientist who feels like they have to hide it. I think if someone hears surgical dental assistant, you think, oh, that's. That's. Could be an interesting job. I'd like to know how you got into that, you know, But I don't think they're saying, oh, my God, you're going to destroy us in this game because of it. And on top of that, he said, the less lies you tell in this house is going to serve you better in the long end. I'm not going to be a guy who's going to lie about my job.
- [39:42]
Chappelle
But you just.
- [39:43]
David Bloomberg
You just say it was literally the question after. He's at least in. In parade. Literally the question after, why? Why? And, yeah, and then he said this. This is gonna. You know, I. I haven't seen what Taran has had to say about him yet, but he said he. He will win, quote, because I've seen everything. I could write a book on this show. So. Another contradiction from what he said earlier when he said he didn't watch live feeds. If you don't watch live feeds, then you haven't seen everything. You're not going to write a book because Taran already did, or it's just
- [40:22]
Chappelle
not going to be a really good book. You know, I don't. You know, Taryn is like a subject matter expert of Big Brother, and so when he writes his book, people are going to tune in. This man to be like, I'm a casual fan. I don't know if you've seen everything as a casual fan. Like, I think you kind of got to get into the trenches as a. As a. As a, like, super fan before you could start writing books about the show and saying, I know everything. So either he's lying to us or he lied to himself.
- [40:49]
David Bloomberg
Right? So here's my thing. If he can't hold his answers together for a simple interview, I don't see how he's going to do it in the house. And like you said, you know, rule breaker. I was going to give him a three, but now I'm thinking I might revise it lower to a two.
- [41:06]
Chappelle
Huh. I mean, it's. It's feeling like Adrian, you know, it, like, so much because Adrian's whole thing was prep, right? Like, oh, I put so much effort into this. Then come to find out he really just practiced competitions and then.
- [41:20]
David Bloomberg
Right.
- [41:20]
Chappelle
Completely refused to acknowledge so many other parts of the game, like lying. This guy is like, I don't want to lie that much. I'm like, you know, it's not. It's not looking great, David. I. I think two probably fits for me, at least.
- [41:36]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. So. All right, then. Just looking to see if I needed to revise that later, if, you know, if I talk about that later, so. All right. That's the lowest we've got so far. Next up is Haley, who is 29 and a telemedicine executive in Missouri. Now, when Haley described herself in the Broville, she said she is outgoing, bubbly, and fun. To say I'm not convinced of the words that she spoke there would be an understatement. In fact, a lot of her interview went like that. It's possible she's just thrown by talking directly to the camera. It could be she is bubbly and fun with other people, but we sure haven't seen it yet.
- [42:35]
Chappelle
Yeah, a lot of people were calling out Haley's interview online as just kind of being a little dull. But that doesn't necessarily count you out as, like, being entertaining tv. I remember, I think, Paul Abrahamian's first interview. I remember thinking, like, why is Paul here? You know, Like, I don't think he. I don't think they know what. What they're doing. Like, they just kind of cast this guy because he's got cool tattoos. And then Paul goes on to be one of the bigger persons we've ever seen on the show. So, you know, there's. There's a chance that maybe she could open up a little bit more. But I do have some questions about some of the things she said in her interviews. When it comes to the rules, I. She might be a rule breaker as well.
- [43:13]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. She acknowledges she's a recent Big Brother fan, but has gone back and watched about 10 seasons, hopefully full seasons, not YouTube summaries of the seasons. And she says her biggest weakness will be her facial expressions and how true and honest she is. And, yeah, I agree those are weaknesses in Big Brother, but she thinks she can make friends with everyone. Now, where have we heard that before? And she says she can win because she brings good strategy. Even though she didn't tell us what that good strategy supposedly is.
- [43:49]
Chappelle
She said she's going to bring to Big Brother something we've never seen before. Brutal honesty and good integrity. He's like, well, if we've never seen it before, Haley, you ask yourself why this hasn't been a thing that works on Big Brother. I mean, you want to talk about honesty and integrity, turn back the page to Adrian. You know, yeah, the guy was like, I'm not going to lie. And where did that get him? You know, and so I get the idea that you don't want to come in and become like some dastardly player, but, you know, lying, breaking deals and Big Brother is. It's fair game. It really is. It's just a matter of how you manage these, these friendships that you have and these relationships you have once you've backstabbed these people and once you've lied to them. So just coming in and being like, I'm just going to be very honest. Good luck. Yeah.
- [44:41]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. I was going to give her a four, but after talking about her more, I realized, no, I've got to give her a three.
- [44:51]
Chappelle
Yeah, I'm tempted to match that too, again, because I just like, I think she's very self aware also.
- [45:00]
David Bloomberg
Or match the earlier number two.
- [45:01]
Chappelle
You know what, you're right. The, the, the number two because it does seem like she's from. She's, you know, fairly aware of herself. You know, talking about how she could come off a little intimidating and that, you know, like, she's a little tall person. But you have to peel back the layers, lady. We don't have time for people to be pulling back layers in Big Brother. You need to come in ready to shed some of those layers or at least pretend to get along with people. And so I just feel like if she's being honest about herself, this doesn't sound like someone who's going to follow your rules for winning the game. Yeah.
- [45:35]
David Bloomberg
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- [47:44]
Chappelle
Yeah. Selena Esteetis. Okay. Yeah. Very, very cool. Jason being a past reality star as well, knowing that we are going to bring in some, you know, potentially bring in some other names from reality tv. It's kind of cool. But I do like that Jason is slotted into, like, almost like the. The normal spot. Right. Like, he's not in the celebrity spot that we're going to see some of these other people in. So it was fun to see Jason pop up here.
- [48:10]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. So he's 35, as I mentioned, you know, professional drag queen and lives in California. One thing he mentioned that never occurred to me is he said it's a lot cheaper to prepare for Big Brother, because when you go on Drag Race, I guess you gotta buy everything that you're, you know, all your prep and everything else. He said he's still in debt from being on All Stars, and it's like, wow, okay, that. That never occurred to me that they would have to do that kind of thing.
- [48:39]
Chappelle
Oh, yeah. They gotta show up with gowns and makeup and all kinds of stuff.
- [48:42]
David Bloomberg
Right.
- [48:42]
Chappelle
And then, you know, then they might lose, and then they don't even get all the money. And so I think a lot of them come off that show and they're doing appearances and stuff, but they're trying to make that bread because they gotta, you know, they gotta pay off some of those debts for sure. And I just imagine that being a drag queen is probably just inexpensive in general because you got wigs and clothes and shoes and stuff like that, and then you still have to have your normal street clothes. You know, he's wearing kind of like a jersey here, but, you know, he's probably packed more clothes than everybody else we've ever seen on the show.
- [49:12]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, he said he packed Selena, so. So, yeah, I should mention he's appeared on two seasons of Drag Race and is also a superfan who has talked about Big Brother in interview prior to now. So this isn't something he's just making up. He really does love the game. Watches live feeds sometimes. Says he's done his research, he's done his homework, he's going to play it smart. And, you know, while I, like I said, I haven't watched Drag Race, he said on All Stars he was the alliance queen, but knows he needs to be a little smarter about them. So I guess he's got rule two on his mind.
- [49:50]
Chappelle
Yeah. I think the interview I saw with Mike Bloom, Selena was saying, you know, I was on All Stars and I was trying to play Big Brother in All Stars, but it didn't work out because everybody else was not trying to do those things. Hopefully here he's surrounded by people that would try to do those things. But, yeah, I mean, you've been burned already on one show. Maybe you take those scars and apply them here. I think the biggest trepidation I have is that this is a performer. I don't know if Jason can turn it off. I think Jason in front of the cameras is going to be Selena or, you know, or Jason the. The fun, gregarious person. And I. I don't know if they're going to be able to conform to the rules while still being the big personality that I'm sure they want to be on tv.
- [50:33]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, yeah. Well, Jason said he wants to get in with the bros, though, though he calls them the, quote, straight boys. And of course, with the women as well. If Jason's able to pull it off, it could be very interesting to watch. Now, normally I would say that he could be in danger when people find out he was on a show previously because although he said he's keeping it a secret, I think that'll be out before live feeds even turn on. But we know there are players coming in special to be highlighted from a previous Big Brother season and two from Survivor. So I don't think even if they find out about Jason, I don't think they will view him in the same way. I think they will. Oh, well. But you were one of our group before the special people came in.
- [51:29]
Chappelle
Yeah. I could see him playing maybe like both sides or like going to the. The other reality TV people and be like, no, we're a group. It's us against them. Let me be the mole. Maybe some cool stuff like Match. So I think there's a lot of potential for some fun gameplay.
- [51:42]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. So, because of Jason's experience and being a super fan. I'm gonna give him an eight. I. I think he can do it. I think he could follow the rules.
- [51:54]
Chappelle
I think so, too. I'm very high on Jason. Just like I said, we saw a lot of the things that, that you want to see when. When we're picking the people we think will do well in the game. I don't think Jason talked about. Talk so much, though, about the way they're gonna approach the game. Like, I get the, like, okay. I work with the guys and work with the girls. You know, I, I hear that, but I, you know, I wonder, you know, a little bit more about some of the strategies. So I'm. I'm gonna go with seven, but I am highest on Jason right now of the people we talk about. Okay.
- [52:25]
David Bloomberg
All right, next up is someone whose name I should have researched more about how to pronounce. It's either Camu or Camus.
- [52:34]
Chappelle
I think it's Camus. I think. Yeah. Could be wrong.
- [52:37]
David Bloomberg
I. I think so too. So Camus, 32, an MMA fighter in Phoenix, Arizona, and I believe he is the only player to be shirtless in his player photos. You gotta. Gotta show off the muscles and tattoos there. I guess I do wonder when they finally. When. When they eventually do the.
- [52:58]
Chappelle
The.
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David Bloomberg
The intro song. Is he going to be wearing a shirt in this intro? I'm betting that he won't be.
- [53:04]
Chappelle
Yeah. If I look like him with those tattoos, I too, would be shirtless all the time. You know, that just not my lot in life.
- [53:12]
David Bloomberg
Save money, you know. You're talking about how Jason has to spend extra money or common who saves money.
- [53:18]
Chappelle
Yeah. Brought some shorts and that's it.
- [53:20]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. But I think because of that, his muscles are going to define him on the show. You take one look at him, it's pretty clear he will be a comp beast. But he claims he wants to show he's not that. And I'm like, yep, good luck.
- [53:36]
Chappelle
Yeah. I think the urge to win competitions is going to be very strong with this one, you know, and I, I think that kind of goes back to what we were talking about with that addendum. Maybe, you know, like, you don't have to win every competition you don't have. You don't have to give away your position by winning competition. I think he's going to struggle with that specifically, but that's not technically a rule. But everything else I've seen, it seems solid. I think he's a. Maybe a little introverted for the game. He's like, oh, yeah, I want to be real laid back and this. That other. And that's not really the vibe that I've been getting from some of these people. Everybody seems very social. You know, I think he seems like the least social person that we've talked about so far. Everybody wants to be everybody's friend. He's like, yeah, I'll take a few days and I'll kind of like, I don't know. And people are gonna be intimidated by me, but they're gonna find out I'm a really nice dude. Again, this is. This is a social game, right? You have to be able to open up to people despite your rough exterior. And so I am a little concerned. But, you know, he's. He's. He says he's also a really big fan. He's been watching since he was 16.
- [54:33]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, he said. Yeah, since season 14. He mentioned Dan's funeral. He said he'd occasionally watch live feeds. He did mention, despite what you indicated about other things he said, he did say his strategy, such as it is, will be to make friends with everyone. We haven't heard that one before. He does plan to hide some information. Like, he's not going to mention that his family owns the gym, because then it sounds like he comes from money. And again, I have to question this lie, because it doesn't say that to me at all. If I hear someone's family owns, like, an MMA gym or a boxing gym, maybe it's just because of TV shows and movies, but it always seems like the owners of those places are struggling to make ends meet. You know, you don't see them driving around in Rolls Royces and, like, I own the gym, you know? Yeah. So I. I think he's overthinking how people will react to that one.
- [55:33]
Chappelle
That's a good point. Every movie I've ever seen, like, somebody's like, dad's a retired fighter who just narrowly missed their big shot, you know, and got knocked out. Now their son has to carry the torch, and he's sweeping the gym every time. Yeah, that's not the vision I get either. But the more I look at his bio, I think I'm. I'm warming up to him a little bit because he does say that he wants to win the comps that I need to win without being seen as overly competitive, as opposed to being like, I just coming in to win everything. At least he knows he should not be trying to give away that he's a physical threat by winning so much. I mean, the Muscles are going to give away the physicality automatically, but muscles don't necessarily mean you're going to win stuff. You know, we saw Cam Sullivan Brown win nothing. He's a D1 athlete, you know, and so I, I don't know. He said, I have mixed feelings about this one. I want to be high on him, but I just, just feel like he was a little bit too subdued in his, his interview.
- [56:25]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, he did say, like you said, he had a few things in there that, like he said, people in a showmance paint a target on their backs because they're immediately seen as a pair and will always have more loyalty to each other than anyone else. So I think he has some knowledge, he gets it. Just don't know that he could put it to use because then he says he's going to win because he's been battle tested in mma, which is not the same thing.
- [56:50]
Chappelle
Yeah.
- [56:51]
David Bloomberg
And so I, I'm putting him at a four.
- [56:54]
Chappelle
Ooh, a four. David. I think I gotta go with a six because again, I think his, his examples are more specific than Ashley. You know, Ashley's getting a big alliance, blah, blah. But he's talking about specifically downplaying by not winning things. He does really outline the whole issue with showmances in a way that it shows that he does get it. So I think I'll give him a six. I'm higher on him than you. I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed for him. Okay.
- [57:23]
David Bloomberg
All right, well, next up is Latrice and she is a boutique salesperson and former singer from Kinkakee, Illinois originally and now in New Jersey. And I am immediately rooting for Latrice for a number of reasons. One, she's almost exactly the same age as me.
- [57:41]
Chappelle
Oh, okay.
- [57:42]
David Bloomberg
If I, if I had a birthday, you know, from her, I don't, I, I don't know that we get birthdays from them. But you know what she described? She's going to be turning 58 during the season.
- [57:54]
Chappelle
Okay.
- [57:54]
David Bloomberg
So much so that is a, you know, we're within, we're within a month or two of each other and she's from Illinois. Plus she's been watching since season two. She was really into live feeds for a while. She said she hit pause on that, but came back to it recently. So, yeah, I, you know, I'm high on her at least rooting for her. Winning. We'll get to in a moment. But rooting for her, I definitely want her to do well. And despite her age, she thinks she can win Vetoes and hohs. I would love to see that. I would love to see her taking some of these comps away from the muscly boys. You know, she says she's a country girl at heart and from a country town. I don't know that I'd call Kankakee a country town, but I did, when I was in high school, used to work a booth selling T shirts and belts at the Kankakee county fair with my father for a few years. And I could definitely attest to there being some very country people who were there.
- [58:59]
Chappelle
Interesting. I don't. When I. When I. You know, I'm from the south, and so when I think of country, I always think of the South. Right. So to think Illinois has some, like, a country kind of DNA to it.
- [59:09]
David Bloomberg
Oh, yes.
- [59:10]
Chappelle
Very entertaining to me as a. As a country bumpkin myself. But she is very fit. You know, I think that you're right. If anybody's going to steal some of these competitions, she's. She's going to be a good candidate for something like that. I wonder how she's going to mesh with some of the other contestants. Not so much the younger ones. I think the younger ones might dig her. Yeah, there's a. There's a particular fraternity that I would love to see her kind of interact with, and we'll talk about that later on, I guess, when we get to them. But she was so much. So much fun. Right. I really want to root for her, but I don't know. David, do you think she's gonna follow your rules?
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David Bloomberg
Well, okay, before we get to that, I do want to say, you know, we didn't mention we. We. I. I quickly mentioned the singing part.
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Chappelle
She.
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David Bloomberg
She is a former singer. I guess her group won some Grammys. Even I don't remember the name of it off the top.
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Chappelle
Sounds of Blackness.
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David Bloomberg
Okay. Yes. And I. She's the niece of Cool from Cool in the gang, so that's pretty cool. And so, yeah, it's. It's a very pretty varied background. I don't know if she has strategic chops, but unlike most of the people who say they want to be friends with everyone, I think she might pull it off. I actually expect her to be there for a long summer, but that said, I don't know that it will fully involve following all my rules and. Or winning. So I'm gonna give her a six.
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Chappelle
Okay. I'm still looking at her. Her bio, because I'm kind of on the fence. Like, Ashley was so specific about things, but I feel like she's so vague. Right? She's like, when you're coming after me, I'm gonna win. Hoh. Like, yeah, we would love to be able to do something like that. Right? You want to be friends with everybody. Yeah. Who doesn't? You know, she. She talks about how she's. She sounds like such a big personality, but I think that her bio doesn't tell me enough about, you know, her situational like. Like ideas about what she would do in the game. I do think that she would be extremely social, but, you know, and again, people be lying. So I think the part. The part that I'm missing is the strategy. I think that knowing that she's watched the game for a very long time, that she's been a fan since season two. I know she understands the strategy, but can she implement it? I don't know. So I want to put her with Ashley. I want to put her as a five as well.
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David Bloomberg
Okay. Yeah, I could see that. All right.
- [61:43]
Chappelle
I think if she wins, David, it's going to be so fun. Like. Like if. If will have been lying to us in his bio last year, I think it would have been such a. Such a good time.
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David Bloomberg
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. All right, we'll move from the singer to the lyrics. And she is 25 and is an attorney in Honolulu. And my instant reaction is she gives Lauren vibes, which means I'm scared. Now, she says she's been, quote, watching forever, which sounds very non specific and also reminds me a bit of Lauren. Then she admits she's only been a fan for a couple years, but says she's a quote, loyal fan and watching live feeds. Now, maybe it's true because she does say that, you know, she. She does it because she wants to see what's going on before it happens. So just the fact that she knows that part, that aspect of things tells me that she does probably actually at least just check in on the live feeds.
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Chappelle
I don't think she's lying about watching the feeds or at least keeping up with them. You know, like, I don't know if she's watching, watching, but the fact that she will acknowledge that, you know, there's more to the game than just the edited show that I'm sure she watched for, you know, a number of seasons. This is. This is positive for sure.
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David Bloomberg
So, like other players this season, she wants to win comps. She needs to win and be friends with everyone. But she does seem to be pretty smart as she lists her accomplishments of making it through college and law school early, passing the bar as the youngest in the state of Hawaii. You know, interestingly, the parade interview does not include a question that others got asked about hiding her job. I, I feel like she mentioned it in the Broville and said she'd talk about being a luau singer, but I didn't have time to go back and check. Do you remember that part?
- [63:46]
Chappelle
Yeah. She says, look, her name is Lyric. She's going to lean into I'm a singer. She's not going to talk about the day job as much as she is going to talk about her night job.
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David Bloomberg
Right. Okay. That's what I thought I remembered. But lines get crossed sometimes. And in this case, you know, I often say hiding your job is silly. In this case, when you're a lawyer, people come after you. So I, I, I don't mind hiding it it for that.
- [64:12]
Chappelle
No. Especially off the back of the Ashley win. Right. We just saw Ashley as the secret lawyer win, and so they're going to be looking for that kind of thing. It's still fresh on their minds. You know, even for the people who've never seen the show, you have to assume that they at least checked out the winner of last season.
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David Bloomberg
You hope you.
- [64:27]
Chappelle
Yeah.
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David Bloomberg
Now, in the Brovile, she said she was giving a baddy face, but to me it looked like a cutie face. So if, like, if that's your bad side, I don't think anyone is worried. Maybe that will actually help her.
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Chappelle
She says people underestimate her. She talks a lot about being like, oh, that people just think I'm a princess and I'm a bubbly girl and all that stuff. But she's really leaning into competitions. I think that she's hoping that she can just, just kind of like bulldoze her way through the house with her like her physicality. She's very athletic. But again, I am concerned.
- [65:05]
David Bloomberg
Yes. Oh, yeah, you're concerned that you won't
- [65:08]
Chappelle
follow the rules a little bit. But more like that, that fake addendum that we haven't added, I think that if she wants to win a lot, I think it's going to, it's going to increase her threat level. And I think that's the thing that you, you do have in your rules. It's like you don't want to become too big of a threat if she comes out and she's winning challenges immediately and early on, like, I, I have to dock her for the one, the thing that Kamu did. Well, he said there are challenges you should win and there are challenges you should not win.
- [65:33]
David Bloomberg
Right.
- [65:34]
Chappelle
It does not seem like that is something she subscribes to. It seems like she's coming in to win it all.
- [65:39]
David Bloomberg
I did not dock her for that because I don't think she's going to win as many challenges as she thinks. She thinks she is looking at the comp. So she will, whether on purpose or not, she will be following the. Don't be too much of a threat in that regard. So because of that, I. I have more confidence in her. I think she's going to show us she's no Lauren. I'm giving her a seven.
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Chappelle
Oh, a seven. Okay.
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David Bloomberg
Yeah,
- [66:10]
Chappelle
her. Her strategy is very one dimensional to me. It's just that, like, I'm gonna win a bunch of comp competitions and be friends with everybody. She doesn't really talk about lying or backstabbing too much in there. I. I don't know.
- [66:24]
David Bloomberg
Maybe. Maybe I have excessive confidence in secret lawyers now.
- [66:28]
Chappelle
I think, hey, listen, we saw it work. We saw it work. And so if she's able to do it again. But I. I actually don't even think she's going to be able to keep that a secret. The way she talks about herself in this bio, I think that she's going to blab that to the first person who she suspects is not looking at her the way she sees herself. And she sees herself as a huge threat. And so, yeah, I'm gonna be lower on her than you. I'll probably go with six.
- [66:52]
David Bloomberg
Okay. Okay. Oh, the way you were talking, I thought you were going to be even lower than that.
- [66:56]
Chappelle
I thought about a four. I thought about a four. I think you talked me into it a little bit more. Your confidence kind of gave me a little boost for her, but. Yeah, but when. When talking like, I keep weighing everybody against Ashley because she's my median. And I do feel like Ashley has a better grasp on the rules. I. Yeah, I think Ashley has a better grasp on the rules. Now, will Ashley do as good as her. Probably not.
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Chappelle
But I don't think she. This woman needs. I don't think she understands the rules, so I will. I'm gonna change that to a four.
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David Bloomberg
Okay. Wow. Two. Two more. Drop. Not just six to five, but that. Dang. All right. Ashley is my medium, so our biggest discrepancy here.
- [67:32]
Chappelle
Yeah.
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David Bloomberg
Tell you the truth, you're making me rethink it too. But I'm. I'm gonna stand by it.
- [67:36]
Chappelle
I stick to it.
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David Bloomberg
I don't remember what I was thinking when I put in the seven, but you know, I'm gonna Stick by my two hour ago self when I wrote that down.
- [67:45]
Chappelle
I mean, she speaks very highly of herself. Even calling her like, my friends call me a jack of all trades. Those are good qualities to have if you're correct. But we have to see if she can pull it off.
- [67:54]
David Bloomberg
Right? Right. Please don't turn into Lauren too. That's all I could say. And, and speaking of, please don't turn into somebody number two from last season, we have Mallory who immediately, immediately gave me Kelly vibes. I was triggered the moment I saw her.
- [68:16]
Chappelle
It's that fuck ass part. Sorry, excuse my language. It's, it's the part because I don't think her character or her like way she talked about the game gave me anything similar to Kelly. But the moment I saw that middle part, I was just like, we already did this before and I can't. If Kelly has one hater, I'm sad to say it's me. And so I'm really hoping that Mallory is.
- [68:41]
David Bloomberg
If she only has one hater, that means one of us has passed away.
- [68:46]
Chappelle
She's, she's not my favorite Big Brother player, I can't lie. So hoping for the best for Mallory for sure.
- [68:53]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. She's 24. She is a rocket scientist or an engineer. They call her rocket scientist, I think because they think that's cooler sounding, but I think she called herself an engineer and usually that's what it is. Like an aeronautical engineer. And she's in New Jersey and now like you said, she is very different in most ways. Like she knows what Big Brother is and she says she's wanted to play pretty much her whole life, but she does admit to being more casual, mostly watching episodes. At least she knows what the live streams are, live feeds are. And just something in the way, you know, she was like awkward talking to the camera and it just reminded me a little bit of Kelly, a little bit of stereotypical engineer. So her strategy, such as it is, does not blow me away. It's to use her smarts, athleticism and social abilities,
- [69:59]
Chappelle
the big three.
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David Bloomberg
To use it to do what?
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Chappelle
Yeah, I don't know, David. Yeah, she's a tough one.
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David Bloomberg
She's not going to tell people she's an engineer slash rocket scientist. And therefore they won't know she's, quote, a smart, logical, strategic thinker. Thinker. And that may be true, but as I sit here today, I don't know the part about strategic either because she hasn't shared anything to help us understand that.
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Chappelle
That,
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David Bloomberg
yeah, maybe it's my, Maybe it's My engineer bias.
- [70:33]
Chappelle
Oh, do you have an engineer bias?
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David Bloomberg
Well, I'm an engineer, so yes, I have an engineer bias.
- [70:38]
Chappelle
But is it good bias or bad bias? Because it sounds like you don't have the most faith in her.
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David Bloomberg
I don't, but the only thing that's lifting it upwards is the engineer bias. I think she has potential. I'm giving her a six, and maybe I shouldn't. As I was talking, I was debating five or six. Five or six.
- [70:59]
Chappelle
I. I'm with you on that one. I think I want to go with six as well. She talks about how her, you know, the social thing is her natural strength. Right. Like, you could not say. That's like the furthest thing you could say about Kelly, you know, socially. She was like a zero on the. Like on the scale. Right. But this person is saying, like, I got the natural just ability to connect with people.
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Chappelle
That's good. She's also athletic. She's pretty smart. So if she could figure out the strategy of the game, I think she's going to be fine. If she's smart enough as she says she is, then I think she will follow the rules that you talked about. I don't see any huge red flags. Right. Like, I don't see anything where I'm like, you should not do that, you know? And so I think, to me, that's probably why I'm a little bit higher on her than I thought I would be. She's a smart, logical, strategic thinker, she says. And so I believe her. Let's go with six.
- [71:50]
David Bloomberg
Okay. All right, next up, we've had the singer, we've had the lyric. Now it's time for the melody. And Melody is 24. She is a corporate game show host from Colorado, now in Arizona. Now, I know when she said in the Broville that she was a game show host, there were a number of people on social media going, wait, what. What game show? What game show does she host? I instantly knew it was more. Well, I mean, they added the word corporate to make it clear. I think it's. I. I've seen these. You know, you. You go somewhere, you're looking for something to do as a group. I go to visit one of my sons. What can we do? Okay. Oh, there's this game show place, but we could never get together enough people to do it. And yeah, it's. It's kind of like an escape room. You take a group of people there and you play and. But you need. You need to have enough people. Corporate is perfect for that. You Know one of these corporate bonding sessions for when you want to spend more time with people from work. Yay. And so it's. It's not the same type of game show that, you know, people were immediately thinking of.
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Chappelle
I've hosted game shows before, so I. I totally get this. And again, nothing on tv, so go look it up if you can. But I've definitely done, like, you know, those professional development groups where they, especially around Covid, I was hosting, you know, where we'd have all these big zoom things and we'd have the games and trivia and stuff like that. So, you know, it's definitely a good skill to have. But I see a lot of red flags with Melody, and so I'm very concerned about her. I don't know if you are.
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David Bloomberg
I'm. Well, I'll listen to what you have to say. She says she's watched Big Brother since she was in the womb. You had mentioned someone doing, you know, doing that earlier. That's impressive to be able to have X ray vision through, you know, but we don't know how deep the obsession is for, like, live feeds. I do like what she says about her greatest strength, being a good listener who is relatable to lots of people and, you know, for her type of job, makes sense for the latter part. Hamster Watch was posting on Blue sky during the Brielle about how Big Brother often brings together a bunch of people used to being the center of attention. If she can truly sit back and listen, I think that could set her apart in a good way.
- [74:16]
Chappelle
I agree. But my issues with her is more about her weaknesses. She talks about being emotional, and I think that, to me, that's always going to be a red flag for me. Not to say that emotional people can't do well in the game, but Big Brother is a pressure cooker. You know, not to, you know, cite the game, the pressure cooker, the challenge, but it will make the most not emotional person emotional. Right. We've seen people play multiple games and be normal humans and then they come and play Big Brother and they're just a wreck. And so for her to say, you know, her weakness is that she's really sensitive. Guess what? You're going to be surrounded by 16 other people who are going to be whispering about you and they're going to be throwing your name out as a potential pawn, as somebody who could go home, somebody who's expendable, and that is going to take a toll on her. And I think for me, that is where I'm looking At her, kind of sideways, because I'm thinking, you know, she talks about how the way she handles conflict is she can be very loud in your face, or she could be very sly and bite you when you weren't looking. No diplomatic portion of her. There's no. Like, we could talk it out. We can try to get on the same page. She's like, I can get loud, too. What the f. And, yeah, you know, that works for some people, but I'm concerned.
- [75:27]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, I could see that. I can. I guess I'm hoping she can keep it inside, but maybe I shouldn't be believing that. Now, one thing she said, she's not going to reveal, she's a game show host, which is another, I'm not going to talk about my job, which is silly. It's not like she's vying for Drew Carey's position. You know, if anything, I think it could be interesting to talk about. Nobody's going to say, oh, well, you're going to do better than us because you're a game show host. No, no. Now, on the plus side, she's against having a showmance. So I'm. I'm at a five. I think she has potential. I just don't know if she's going to live up to that potential.
- [76:13]
Chappelle
Her knowing that a showmance would be bad for her is good at least. Awareness. Right. Because showmans aren't inherently bad anymore. We've seen showmans to take. Carry you to the end a lot of times, you know, but for her to say, for me, that would be bad. I think she's right. I think she's correct in that I want to give her some credit for that. But that. That the parts about her not being a great liar. This is Big Brother. You kind of have to lie constantly. You can't be honest with everybody. She's not gonna. She's not gonna be able to hold her emotions in, at least from her words. I mean, maybe she figured it out, but it doesn't seem like it to me. And she seemed a bit subdued. You know, I don't really know if she has one of those. She talks about how she's a great listener. That's a great trait to have. I want to give her some credit for that. Right. But aside from that, I'm concerned again. So, yeah, I'm gonna go, oh, I think she's. I think she's gonna. I think she's gonna do very poorly. I think I gotta give her a three.
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David Bloomberg
Okay.
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Chappelle
Yeah.
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David Bloomberg
All right.
- [77:12]
Chappelle
Well, I don't I don't think this woman is making jury.
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David Bloomberg
Okay. All right.
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Chappelle
Yeah.
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Chappelle
Buddhist. Buddhist man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's not my turn. Go ahead, David.
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David Bloomberg
Yo, go ahead, Buddhist man.
- [79:01]
Chappelle
Boo.
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David Bloomberg
Boo. Yeah, he is. He is 28. He is a pickleball coach from Michigan and now in Florida. When describing himself in three words, the first two were bashful and extroverted.
- [79:19]
Chappelle
So relatable.
- [79:20]
David Bloomberg
Which are damn close to being pure antonyms. So already I'm like, what is up with this guy? He also says he's a new fan who just started watching, quote, not that long ago and, quote, blistered through about three seasons of it. So, in other words, he started watching when he found out he was likely going to be cast on the show. He says he's going to try to win all the comps and he has a loud mouth and he won't Back down from anyone in the house. He's just, he's pushing all the right buttons so far.
- [79:57]
Chappelle
Pissing me off. Look, another person. Listen, we talked about my disdain for Kelly Jorgensen, but Tucker, you will pay for what you've done to this show. Okay? Yes, you will pay. I don't know how, but you some, you owe us something because now we have these Tucker clones who are like, I'm gonna come in and win everything and be brash and be loud and blah, blah. It's like. And I. And I'm a fan of the show. I just watched 12 episodes yesterday. Like, ah, this is so crazy to me that we're still casting people like him. But somebody has to lose. And if we have to have a first boot here, I would love for it to be somebody who doesn't really care about this opportunity. Now, the problem is he looks like he's fairly physical and this is a show that is, you know, going to throw a couple competitions at you to save your life. And so I definitely could see him winning a blockbuster or two and staying way too long in this game.
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David Bloomberg
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly my thought as well. Additionally, he has a big secret. You know what his big secret is?
- [81:00]
Chappelle
No, David.
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David Bloomberg
His name is actually Jack, but he's not going to reveal that until later.
- [81:07]
Chappelle
But like, but why?
- [81:10]
David Bloomberg
Who gives a crap? How is that a secret?
- [81:17]
Chappelle
But he doesn't even tell us why they call him Rome. I still don't know why they call him. Is it his middle name?
- [81:22]
David Bloomberg
He just said, my friends have always called me Rome. I. I don't know. Maybe that's where they want him to
- [81:27]
Chappelle
go to get that out.
- [81:30]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. So, yeah, I mean in the brovile, he said he will be the alpha guy protecting the beta guys, AKA the nerds. And she also says he is a bit because he collects trading cards. I believe approximately 0% of this he is going to bro the hell out from the moment he gets there.
- [81:56]
Chappelle
But when you go in and you calling people betas and submissives.
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David Bloomberg
Yes, yes.
- [82:02]
Chappelle
I thought I was like, this is a kinky individual. Like, why are you talking like this? But then I was like, oh, no, he's talking about their personalities. This is crazy to come in knowing that you are going, I'm going to be the alpha and I will look down on the betas and the submissives and I'm going to speak to their level. It sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. It sounds like you're very full of yourself. He talks about how he's gonna be. He's a hero in his mind, but people are gonna think he's a villain. You know, perception is reality in a lot of ways. You know, you being a hero to yourself doesn't matter if 16 other people think you're a villain, you know, and. Or. Or if everybody at home is watching thinking you're a villain too. And I don't mean the fun villain, you know, the mustache twirly. Even though there's a fantastic mustache, but no mustache. Swirly villains. I mean, like people that people are praying on their downfall. I mean, I'm booing this man, and we are three seconds into his, you know, to seeing his picture pop up. So I do not see it for him at all. Nothing. I got nothing. David. This is. This. There's nothing here.
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David Bloomberg
I am giving him a one.
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Chappelle
He's going to crush his enemies by being more confident than them. David. Confidence is how that should be your rule number one.
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David Bloomberg
Oh, well, then I'll change it to a one.
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Chappelle
One. A one. Oh, okay. Okay. Thought I could get you with that one. What about. He's. He's gonna try to find love in the house.
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David Bloomberg
0.98. Which rounds to a one.
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Chappelle
Okay. All right. Yeah.
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Chappelle
He's the most competitive person he's ever met, so. And he never gives up. And that's not something you can say about Tucker because he definitely quit a couple times. So maybe. Maybe I'll like him more than Tucker. But I just. This. This, man, this is a one for me too. Man. I hate. I hate it for him because it's tough to make such a bad first impression, but I. I'm not moved.
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David Bloomberg
Yeah, same, same. All right, well, we can move on from him to Taylor. She is 27, an elementary school counselor from Florida and a long time casual episode only fan. And she has a very detailed and complicated strategy that somehow involves having three captains of alliances that I think are secretly working together to get to final three to control their independent alliances. And I know I've complained about people coming in with no strategy, but this is the opposite. This is way too specific.
- [84:30]
Chappelle
And it's also bad. Yeah, like the. The concept of this sounds good, right? You want to have a working relationship with the. With the other side and the. The floaters. Okay, cool. But this idea that there is somewhere, somehow a leader of the floaters, by definition, they are floaters. They go where the power is. There is no leader of the floaters. You know, there's not a. Okay, the floater alliance we're gonna. What are we doing today? No, don't get me wrong. The floaters do that sometimes. They link up, up. But if that's effective, then you wouldn't know about it. Taylor, you would have to be that person as the floater. Right. And so if she tells me she wants to float between both sides, that totally makes sense. But it just sounds like there's a big old hole in her strategy that she hasn't quite worked out and maybe. Maybe watching the feeds would help.
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David Bloomberg
Yeah. Yeah. And other than that, I did not get much more from her other than I don't think there will be a second winner with that name this season.
- [85:27]
Chappelle
Yeah, I, I thought she was likable enough, but yeah, she says people think I'm innocent until I open my mouth. And, you know, one of your rules is definitely keep your personal opinions and, you know, things like that to yourself. She does not seem like the type who is going to be able to do that. And so I am very concerned about her. But at least she's a fan of the show. So. Yeah. What are you thinking, David?
- [85:54]
David Bloomberg
I am thinking a three.
- [85:55]
Chappelle
Same. Big same.
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David Bloomberg
Okay. Okay. All right. And then we have our final person from the Broville, and that is someone who wasn't even supposed to be in the Broville. Yash. He is 24, a financial analyst from New Jersey. He is a casual viewer, but says recently he's been watching like five hours a day. So in other words, since he found out he would likely be on. He says his strategy coming in is top secret, which is code for I don't have one. But he. He might lie and not tell people he's a financial analyst saying he works in marketing. Now, the problem, Josh, if you're listening, in retrospect, is that people in marketing do very different things than people who are financial analysts. So you'd better have your story straight or people are going to wonder about you. And it's so unnecessary. You can make financial analysts sound incredibly boring and not threatening at all. You don't have to. It's not something that screams I'm a super intelligent rich person who you need to get out.
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Advertiser
You.
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Chappelle
Yeah. If someone told me they're a financial analyst, there's 100% chance I'm not going to ask them a followup question. Yeah, like, I'm just not. Like, I. Emily flipping famous financial analyst on Survivor, I've never once questioned, okay, well, what does she actually do on a day to day. I don't care. It does not appeal to me at all that's. The quickest way to get somebody to leave you alone is to tell me. Tell me that you're a financial analyst. We can talk about literally anything else. The fact that he wants to come in and say that he worked in marketing or something. You haven't even figured out what your lie is going to be yet. You just. Marketing or something. You don't have a backup hobby that you could say? You know, like, I wouldn't tell some people, like, oh, I podcast about Big Brother because maybe they'll think you're very knowledgeable. But I do have a day job, you know, so it's like, if you come in and you're like, I'm not gonna go with my day job. Do you like to fish? Do you like to play cards? You know, do you have anything else that you got that you want to throw out there? No, just marketing or something. He. I don't think he's putting any. He. I don't think he put any thought into this show at all. And I think he just really wants to be on tv.
- [88:16]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, I. I mean, I. I agree with you. His answers to almost all the questions were so generic. And also, by the way, marketing. There are a lot of different types of marketing. If you just say you're in marketing, you're begging for questions. My son is in marketing. I know these things. And, like, he's done different types of marketing. Very different types of marketing.
- [88:36]
Chappelle
Marketing.
- [88:36]
David Bloomberg
And so you can't just say, I'm in marketing.
- [88:40]
Chappelle
Right.
- [88:41]
David Bloomberg
You know, what kind of marketing? Social media. Are you working with influencers?
- [88:46]
Chappelle
Commercials? Yeah.
- [88:48]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, yeah. What?
- [88:49]
Chappelle
Yeah, what is this?
- [88:50]
David Bloomberg
And he's gonna be like, yeah, marketing. But it seems to me like he was the alternate. From everything that I'm seeing, there seems to have been someone else who was supposed to be in his place and poof, disappeared. And someone looked up that person. And let's just say, I mean, there was nothing that I saw yet, as we're recording this, horrendous about them, but they were certainly indicated haters.
- [89:28]
Chappelle
Ooh.
- [89:30]
David Bloomberg
So, you know, I can see perhaps why they were replaced. But he might just have figured, well, I'm an alternate. I'm not really going to get on. So I haven't prepared all my stories. I haven't done all of this stuff. And then poof, the day before they're going in, he's not an alternate anymore, and he has to do interviews. If I had not known that, I would have given him a 2. With that knowledge, I'm going to elevate it to a 4, because I feel like we just don't know. I. I don't. You know. Should he have still been thinking about it as an alternate? Yes, but a lot of alternates don't. Right.
- [90:21]
Chappelle
I just feel like you could iron some of this stuff out. When you were in the auditions, you know, before you were selected as an alternate, before you flew out there for the. The psychological exam, like, what were you doing this whole time? You have nothing. This man shared nothing with us.
- [90:35]
David Bloomberg
They were just trying to get on. You know, the whole first goal is trying to get on. And then for some of these people, they think, well, okay, now that I'm on, I. I have to come up with the strategy and everything. But he didn't expect to be on. He expected to be going home today.
- [90:51]
Chappelle
Yeah, you twisted my arm. I'm gonna. I gotta give him a one. This is not. It's a. It's. This is nothing. This. This whole bio is a nothing burger. Like, there's. There's nothing about this that says I can. I even know what game I'm playing. He thought, are you open to showmances? Oh, of course I'm open to a showmance. You're telling me I could win750,000 and find a wife? Sign me up. Yeah, because it happens so much on this show, you know? Okay, you're gonna do all of those things. You have no foreseeable strategy. Your weaknesses, barbers or hairdressers. Do you know that you have to, like, win competition. Like, I don't know if he ever said anything about the game. I can't give him any points. David, this is A1.
- [91:34]
David Bloomberg
Yeah.
- [91:35]
Chappelle
Yeah. He doesn't know your rules. He can't follow them because they. To him, these rules don't exist. He's just going in there to have a good time.
- [91:42]
David Bloomberg
That's. That is very true. That is very true. I. I'm still. I. I mean, part of it is we have seen that often the alternates end up being better than the person they replaced for sure. So even though I'm not seeing it yet with Yash, I'm. I'm hoping. I'm hoping perhaps.
- [92:02]
Chappelle
Yeah, I'm going to hope that he is better as well, because he seems. He seems nice enough. But I just. Based on what he told me, I can't in good faith give him credit for something that he clearly has no clue what he's talking about or he. He doesn't know what he's doing here. He's he's just here to be on tv.
- [92:23]
David Bloomberg
Okay. All right. Well, that is the end of the. The. The Broville group. And. But since then. Now we knew other people were joining. You know, we've been hearing rumors for a while. I mentioned that earlier since the Broville. Just in the few hours since then, two other players have been officially confirmed and a third unofficially confirmed. So Entertainment Weekly announced that Survivors Rick Devins will be on this season. Sharon Tharp announced that Big Brother 26's Angela Murray will also be on. And inside Survivor says D from Survivor is as well. And I mean. I mean, she was a name I heard being mentioned for a long, long time now, but she won't be officially announced until Friday's episode of Unlocked, which the whole way they're doing this is extremely strange to me.
- [93:32]
Chappelle
Yeah, none of this makes sense. Why would you. I don't understand. I don't understand why you're, like, announcing the. Like you do a whole rollout live on YouTube, which I thought was pretty cool. You know, they should have been doing this. I don't know how they have. They've been passing up with this money this whole time. Whatever. They do this whole rollout on YouTube, we're all locked in trying to find this out. And then you save the big reveal for. For the. The biggest names for random articles. You know, I don't know if it's just because they do this YouTube thing that they're, like, trying to throw these people a bone, you know, the journalists. Like, let me give you something to give you some clicks, because like you said, Mike Bloom's interviews are basically word for word what we saw in the. In the. In the video. Right. So at least this brings something to make you click on, you know, the Dalton Ross interview. You know, the. You know, I think maybe that's what it is. But then to, like, only reveal two of them and then to save D until Friday. Like, I love D. But why are we saving it to Friday? Like, why not just release it right now?
- [94:29]
David Bloomberg
Well, that. They want to. They. They want people to watch Unlocked.
- [94:32]
Advertiser
Oh.
- [94:33]
Chappelle
Oh, well, that's the only thing. So they still won't be in the house by then then, right? Because the show is going to air on Thursday, I'm assuming. Yeah, well, I'm assuming by the time Unlocked comes on, we would have already known D is in the house, right?
- [94:49]
David Bloomberg
No, because the live feeds don't come on until.
- [94:52]
Chappelle
Oh, until until after Unlocked. Right, right, right, right.
- [94:57]
David Bloomberg
So what they're going to probably show us is my. My bet is they will have the main group and then they will maybe one at a time. Maybe. Maybe Angela and Rick first. I don't know. I have to get used to calling him Rick or I have to see if they're calling him by his last name on this show or Devin's. Yeah, we just spent the last several months calling him Devin, so. But the. I. I think what will happen is there will be some sort of cliffhanger on Thursday episode, and then it will be revealed in a scene on Friday's Unlocked. And, you know, they've again, they got to get those people watching there to. To, you know, get. Get that viewership up for Unlocked, I guess. And it's just, again, it's just a weird series of events to do it this way, to not bring in all these three players at once.
- [95:59]
Chappelle
And I'd argue that you probably should save Angela for last. Right. Because the Big Brother fandom is going to care about Angela more than they're going to care about Rick and D. You know, I. I'm a. I think I might be a bigger Survivor fan than I am Big Brother, but it's marginal. But. But I'm. I'm very happy to see D and Devins, but I think if you're going to try to appeal to this fan base, you want to give them somebody that they know they've seen before, a big character, it's going to start some drama, going to cause some fights. You know, I think you really want to lead up to the Angela Murray reveal, and they've already kind of already kind of blown that, so I don't know what they're doing either. David.
- [96:33]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. Yeah. Well, based on what we know, let's take these three in alphabetical order, like the newbies.
- [96:40]
Chappelle
Oh, that's perfect. Because, you know, you have already discussed why you thought this person or how you thought this person would do with the rules.
- [96:50]
David Bloomberg
I have, I have. That was a while ago. I looked back at it just for the number that I had you given her, but I did not look back to see what I thought I probably should have. I don't know why I didn't. Probably because I. We already know. We. We know what we saw. So, you know my thoughts from then, what do they matter? She is almost the definition of a wild card. You know, one person commented on my YouTube video of my immediate reactions to the Broville and said we should address the best way for other players to deal with Angela. And frankly, I. I think the answer to that is vote her out.
- [97:30]
Chappelle
Yeah.
- [97:32]
David Bloomberg
And I know look, that's not going to be popular with team fund feeds. I, I know that. But if we're looking at this from a player perspective, she's not going to be good for your game. She can misread anything. She can flip on you in a millisecond. Now, maybe as a returning player, she'll be different. And I saw an interview clip of her talking to Sharon Tharp about how she wouldn't be as paranoid in the house a second time. I don't believe it. I'm sorry. I don't believe for a moment she needs to prove it to me. And if I were a player, I'm not risking it. Goodbye,
- [98:08]
Chappelle
David. This woman broke all the rules the first time she played. So I don't really know how, how confident I can be with her not doing it the second time around. Because the breaking the rules is what got her back here. Right? Angela's not back because she was some masterful player. She's back because she was cracked the whole time, just like on some other stuff. Lady tapped into full Karen mode several times throughout the season. She, she's decently entertaining. She can be very mean sometimes, but a rule follower. Not this lady. And so, you know, I'm tempted to give her a one, but because she's a returning player, David, I'm willing to go up to three just off of that alone. She knows what she saw other people do well in the game. Maybe she can replicate that.
- [98:52]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, I'm going to give her. I gave her a five the first time. I am lowering it to a four.
- [98:59]
Chappelle
Yeah.
- [98:59]
David Bloomberg
And it maybe she knows a little bit better now. I don't think she really does. And now here's the thing. I said everyone should vote her out, but you know what's going to happen, and this part applies to all three of these players. Production is going to make them safe for at least the first week, if not multiple weeks. People will talk about how they would like to get them out, but then some of them will start to get to know them. They'll become friendly, they'll bring them into alliances. They'll realize that, oh, maybe, maybe this person can bring something to the table. But the thing for Angela specifically is I don't think she fits that mold. She did make it to, like, sixth place, I believe, but like you said, not because she's a strategist. However, if she can share some things with players that make them feel like she can be as used to them, they might keep her around. So that's why I only lowered it to a four. And, you know, I just want to make something clear. It's not like I have anything against her. We've even exchanged a few brief, amusing words in TikTok comments, you know, but I. I don't see her, you know, she's not good at the strategy side of things. I'm sorry.
- [100:14]
Chappelle
Yeah, look, I. I'm going to enjoy seeing Angela on tv. I have nothing personal against this woman at all, but, like, let's just call a spade a spade. We watched her play the. And it was rough. It was rough. And it wasn't like she got better. You know, some people get in the house and it's tough at first, and then they slowly start to acclimate. And this. That other Angela was a menace up until the very last episode of Big Brother. I still think back of that Drew roundtable where they're sitting around talking about MacKenzie versus Chelsea as the winner and Angela is like, pouting, just trying to find a reason not to vote for Chelsea. And Chelsea goes on to be one of the more dominant winners we've ever seen on the show's history. And Angela was still like, well, I mean, it wasn't that great. It's like, ma', am. Yes, it was. It really was. And if you can't recognize good gameplay when it happens to you, I don't know how you're going to be able to replicate that, you know, type of gameplay moving forward. I don't think she has it in her, but I think it's going to be a fun time.
- [101:07]
David Bloomberg
Yeah.
- [101:08]
Chappelle
Yeah.
- [101:09]
David Bloomberg
All right, next up is D. And this is the most interesting choice of all. She, of course, played a masterful Survivor game in her win, but then her. Her time on Survivor 50 was cut short in part due to previous relationships and outside alliances. But as siree found out, Big Brother's a different game. It's like the opposite of the challenge, which she's also been on. It's instead of being like all challenge, challenge, challenge and then hang out at the bar a little bit afterwards, it's sitting around, sitting around, sitting around, burst of activity. Still, we know she has a good social game, so I could see her bringing one or more of the guys especially to put under her thumb and help control things double. Especially if she wins an early comp though, it seems like she won't even be able to compete for the first hoh. I do think think she'll do what I described a couple minutes ago. You know, I was talking about all three of them, and I think she will be latched on to or will latch on to other people and she could last a while. That said, my advice to the newbies and this is the same as it was for Angela, vote her out as soon as you can or else you are going to lose to her.
- [102:36]
Chappelle
Yeah, these de's really good. She, and she played such a solid Survivor game the first time that like, I mean you've Talked about why D1 Survivor she was following your rules. You know, I mean she might not have had your rules in mind specifically, but I think her innate ability to play the game like just aligned with things that you should do well. Right. She was in the majority alliance but she was like solidly in the majority alliance. She got in a showmance and it still propelled her to the end. She was able to beat her showmance in the end. You know, she was able to keep secrets from her, the people that she was working with. She was able to get loyal allies from people that she was wasn't working with. And then she goes on and plays a pretty decent game for a first timer in the challenge as well. You know, she works her way into a big alliance, she lines up with the power players. D really doesn't lose the challenge for anything that she did wrong. So you know, I, I, it would be crazy to bet against somebody like D in any of these games. I think we've seen enough of her Even in Survivor 50 we've seen enough of D to know that she's got chops.
- [103:38]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, yeah, I wrote down here I was going to give her an 8 in terms of following my rules. I, I, I, the one thing that keeps it from being a nine is it's almost impossible for her to not be too much of a threat. And, and that's, you know, an issue we had to deal with in Survivor 50 through the whole season is how can you not be too much of a threat when you're a known quantity and D is a known quantity. Whether, you know, how many of these players will know her is another matter. But I'm willing to bet there will be a few. So that's why I'm, I'm, you know,
- [104:17]
Chappelle
at an 8, I think my highest rating so far was a 7, but for D, I will raise it to an 8 for sure. But I, but again for that's for two reasons, honestly, for exactly what you're saying. D comes in as a two time Survivor legend at this point.
- [104:30]
David Bloomberg
Right.
- [104:30]
Chappelle
She played in Survivor 50 so a lot of them people have just been propelled to legendary status. She's one a season. She's been on the challenge. There's no way these people in the house are not going to know who D is. And so. And it's going to be really hard to downplay that. Also, Survivor is a very different game than Big Brother. It like we saw Sere kind of just like spin herself into a whirlwind throughout that entire season just at how slow the game moves. We've never seen D play a marathon game like that. She actually played the shorter version of Survivor than Cerize played. Right. Like, so to that point, Sere has played full length seasons of Survivor and then of course, Au I think is after that. But. But D played 20 something days, you know, in. On. In Fiji or whatever. So this is going to be so different for. For D that I'm concerned about that. But as far as, like having the social awareness and the ability to shut your mouth and not give away everything, I think Dee is going to do just fine. I think for me, she's the one who's going to follow your rules the best.
- [105:28]
David Bloomberg
Yeah. Okay. All right, well, next we have Rick. Now, Rick being on the show was a bit of a surprise to me. I recently did a video talking about who would be a good replacement host for Jeff Probst if and when he eventually retires. And I wondered if Rick would want to leave his family for that length of time. Well, if he's doing it for Big Brother, I guess that answers the question, you know. So now I of course have to root hard for Rick because he is the only player in the season to have been a guest on this podcast, the Survivor version. Plus, I just like the guy quite a bit and he's a ton of fun. That said, as before, other players should vote him out as soon as they can, but they won't because he is going to be the life of the house and they are going to want to keep him around unless people start to feel like he's stealing TV time, which I think is more prevalent even in Big Brother than Survivor. They'll also probably forget or not know about how many challenges he won in his first Survivor season. So they likely won't see him as much of a threat to win comps, especially if he plays it smart and doesn't win them early here. So what do you think about Rick?
- [106:49]
Chappelle
I think Rick is a rule breaker. I think he's a rule breaker, but I think it works for him. You know, I think and. And not the same way that it works for D. Right. D went on to win her season because I think she's a little bit more straight laced when it comes to the rules. But Devin's colors outside the lines a little bit. He's a showman, I think before he is a player, you know, and so the downplaying his, you know, his threat level, it's gonna be really hard. If any of these people are survivor fans, they just watched him play. I mean, him and D both, but he had a way bigger presence on the show than he did. And, and it wasn't this straightforward loyal game, you know, that you could say D played the first time she played. Devin's was planting fake idols and plotting and, you know, play. I mean, he flipped that coin. This is in it was he. He does not know how to play small. I don't, I just don't see that for him. But I'm such a big fan of Rick Devins.
- [107:40]
David Bloomberg
I, I think he does know how to play small, but he gets himself into situations where he's on the bottom and he has to go big or go home.
- [107:47]
Chappelle
Him. I think he can't help himself. I think Rick Devins puts himself in those situations. There's no world where that coin flip was going to happen and it wasn't going to be Rick Devins flipping it. You know, I think even if he was, you know, at the top of his alliance, completely insulated with an idol, I still think Devins is going to flip the coin. I think he can't help himself. You know, if there's a Pandora's box, he's unleashing it. You know, I, I just think that's him. And so for that I am a little concerned. But Rick Devins will be such a fun big brother player there. This man has never been boring tv, not a day in his life. And I, I'm very excited for him. But his propensity to be a showman is why I'm kind of like, is he going to follow your rules at the expense of Showtime? I don't know.
- [108:30]
David Bloomberg
I mean, I did give him one lower than D. I gave him a 7. He knows the rules. He, like I said, he's been on the podcast like you said. Is that going to. Is he still going to follow them at all times? Times? I'd like to think so. But you, you know, make a good case for why he might not. So, yeah, I gave him a seven.
- [108:57]
Chappelle
I agree though. I gave him a seven, but I, I would love to give him an eight. But I, I can't give him the same type of benefit of the doubt, I give D because I've seen D do it before. Whereas Devins, you know, for the people who are watching this who are not familiar with Rick Devins, he got voted out the first time he played Survivor very similar to, like, the jag spot. Very, you know, kind of in the pre merge, he was able to win himself back in because he's good at challenges, and then he nearly gets to the end and wins, you know, and so it's not like we have not seen him have his pitfalls when it comes to the rules. He's definitely seen, you know, the ups and downs and so. But he's played enough to where I'm very confident in him. And then, like, you know, Rick Devins is just somebody who I've always been able to root for, and so, you know, I would love to see him do well, but I think if I'm talking about your rules, I have to dock him a little bit because he's not the.
- [109:46]
David Bloomberg
Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, it is time for our predictions. Now, looking back at my ratings, I've given out a couple of eights, you know, 1 to D, 2 to newbies Barrett and Jason. I think, unless I revised any of that, though. Is Jason really a newbie? Sort of.
- [110:09]
Chappelle
Sort of.
- [110:09]
David Bloomberg
So, yeah, you know, like we talked about, he'll be introduced as part of the cast, and even when other people find out he was on Drag Race, I just don't think they'll associate that with the strategic games. For that reason, I think Jason is in the perfect spot.
- [110:25]
Chappelle
Ooh.
- [110:26]
David Bloomberg
And I know some people are going to think I'm crazy because, you know, after I had written this up and. And obviously, I could change at any time, but I saw, you know, on Blue sky, some discussion, and some people who had seen Jason play on Drag Race had been like, oh, he's going to be out week one. I'm like, well, I have it as the opposite. I think he has experience, a ton of knowledge as a fan, and I don't think he'll be seen as a huge threat. I'm making Jason my winner pick.
- [110:58]
Chappelle
I think that's a good pick. No, I think that's a good pick. I think that if he's able to turn it down, you know, and focus on the strategy. Right. And not get caught up in the showmanship of it all, I think that. That, you know, we know he knows the game, we know that he is competitive, but we know he is somebody who's going to be extremely likable in the house. I think that he's not going to have the same target as a d. As a Devins, you know, as. Even as Angela. Right. Like, because she's not gonna be able to help herself. So, yeah, I. I think that's a really good pick.
- [111:29]
David Bloomberg
And we know he's got bills to pay. He wants that money.
- [111:31]
Chappelle
He needs the money. He needs the money. And that. That'll make you turn it on for sure. I wouldn't want to go up against him in a. Like, in a final speech. Interesting. So I know you normally do predictions for who you think was going to be the first one out.
- [111:47]
David Bloomberg
Oh, I'll have that in a second here. Yeah.
- [111:49]
Chappelle
Oh, but I have to. I have to pick my winner. Pick first. Dang. I would love to see Rick Devins win. Big brother. I'm going to pick Rick Devins.
- [111:58]
David Bloomberg
Okay. I would. I would. Damn it. Now you're going to have me rooting for your winner pick to win.
- [112:04]
Chappelle
That's the real next level strategy right there. Okay, so now you're going to be coming in. We're both going to be making excuses for Rick Devins. I think that. I think he's due. You know, I think the same way Aubrey was due for 50, I think this might be his time.
- [112:17]
David Bloomberg
Okay. All right. All right. Now moving on to, like you said, the first out, I gave Roma one. However, as we already mentioned, just because he's going to play poorly doesn't mean he'll be the first out, especially with the blockbuster. I mean, you know, as I mentioned, look at how long we were tortured by Kelly last season. And, you know, before that, Mackenzie made it all the way to the end and still didn't know how to play. So I'm going with someone who I don't think has a great chance of winning the early comps and also shows signs of overthinking things. My prediction is Taylor will be the first one out.
- [112:57]
Advertiser
Ooh.
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Chappelle
Okay. All right. Great. Interesting. I don't. I don't think you're completely off base. I think that she might have a tough time in the game for sure, but I'm looking at somebody else, unfortunately for that spot, and it's actually between two people because one person is just so grading like you we talked about. I just don't think he knows what he's talking about. Talk about the submissives in the house and the betas and just. It's just such an easy way to get on the wrong side of the house. So. Rome would be such an easy pick. I Think Yash also not knowing what the hell he's doing. There is also an easy pick, but you're right with the Blockbuster. It makes me kind of give a little bit of like a bump to these people who I know could probably squeak out a competition, but, you know, didn't say they were pretty good at competitions. That would have been. I think our game show host, if I'm not mistaken, is Melody. I think Melody is not. I don't think she's suited for this game. I think that with her talking about her emotions and not really talking about how she can pull out these challenges where so many people are talking about how challenges are going to be something they can lean on, I think that if she needs to save herself, she's probably least likely to do it. So she's my. She's my pick for first boot.
- [114:11]
David Bloomberg
Okay. All right. Well, there we have that. I do want to let people know, you know, once Big Brother starts, It is a 247 situation. So be sure you keep up with us on social media. You can find both of us on Blue sky, where I am at David Bloomberg and Chappelle is at Chappelle's Kickback. Then you have to add in the dot, bluesky dot, whatever. But just do a search and you'll find us if you're not already following us. We encourage anyone at either of the other places to come over to Blue sky for your Big Brother discussions. I. I think I just convinced someone today. There are so many major Big Brother update accounts have moved. It's a fun community. It's a better place overall. Doesn't have a crazy algorithm, you know, stuff like that. So it's just better. In addition, I post videos every day at TikTok, YouTube and Instagram, where I'm @David Bloomberg TV. Once Big Brother starts, there will be multiple videos every day with fun stuff from the show and the live feeds, plus other shows as well once they start coming on. And. And you can just find all of my various accounts at linktree/David Bloomberg Chappelle. Where else can people find you besides Blue Sky?
- [115:25]
Chappelle
I'm on all social media platforms at Recap Kickback. You know, I know Chappelle's Kickback is like my personal account, but if you really want to see my takes about reality TV and the things I'm doing and keep up with my podcasting, recap kickback, YouTube.com cap kickback as well, that's where you can keep up with what I'm talking about and what I'm doing. The Most.
- [115:41]
David Bloomberg
Okay. I also want to mention that the rules we were referencing here are similar to the Survivor rules. We've mentioned some differences. Those rules, if you're interested, come in a shorter and much more colorful version as a poster. You can get them at. You can go to robhiswebsite.com yxlostfeed scroll down to the poster and click on it. They also come in a poster on a T shirt form and a checklist form which is close to the Big Brother rules but not, you know, not quite. We've got to, we've got to get some Big Brother y blank lost merch. It's just something that hasn't happened yet. So. But first I have to decide exactly which rules. You know that there's always these steps to everything here. So in addition, as we wrap up, I want to encourage people to check out the RJP Patron Program at rob his website.com patron Rob has several Patron only podcasts for Big Brother Chappelle. Do you know of any particular Patron only podcast that my people should definitely check out?
- [116:42]
Chappelle
Only one this summer you should be checking out the slop for patrons only. Like I said, it gets a little sloppy. We talk about Big Brother but not in the strategic sense. We talk about some of the wacky things happening inside the house, but also outside the house. We get into alumni drama and mess and who's beefing with David Bloomberg on TikTok. We talk about all of that and more. But you got to be a patriot in order to get the sloppy content of the slop. So make sure you join the Patreon and check me out.
- [117:08]
David Bloomberg
Yes. Plus in addition there you know, you get perks like Facebook groups, discord and you support shows like this one and everything on the network. So again, Rob has a website.com patron and also make sure you're subscribed to all of the RHAP Big Brother podcasts by going to weknowbigbrother.com it's it's right down there, right down over there. So sometimes it's in the center some, you know, it just depends what we're doing here. And you go there, select your podcast service of choice, whatever you want and you'll find content in addition to us other Big Brother podcasts, daily live feed updates once those get started. So make sure you go there and subscribe. Finally, we want to thank Scott St. Pierre and Jessica Sterling and the whole RHAP and reality TV ups behind the scenes team for all the work they do, editing and posting and everything else. That goes on. And, of course, thank you, Chappelle, for joining me on what is certain to be a fun journey through the summer.
- [118:09]
Chappelle
Yes. No, thank you for having me. Thank you, of course, to Rob and everybody, for making this possible. And then thank you for Obi, for stepping away and letting me try to fill in his shoes. I promise to do my best to not let him down.
- [118:21]
David Bloomberg
I'm sure you won't. I'm sure. You know, maybe we can get him on here one time and see what he's up to if. If, you know, once he's out of sequester as an alternate, of course. So how did we. We should have gotten him, not. Yash. Come on.
- [118:33]
Chappelle
It was right there.
- [118:35]
David Bloomberg
Dang it. Well, we will be right here after the first eviction and then every week after then. So we will see everyone then. Bye.
- [118:44]
Chappelle
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Chappelle
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