Big Brother 28 Draft

Summary

RHAP: We Know Big Brother – Big Brother 28 Draft

Podcast Recap & BB28 Draft Special
Date: July 9, 2026
Host(s): Rob Cesternino with Taran Armstrong, Puya, Melissa Denny, and Aman Adwin

Episode Overview

The RHAP crew gathers for their annual Big Brother preseason tradition: the BB28 draft. On the eve of the new season, Rob, Taran, Puya, Melissa, and Aman break down the new and returning houseguests, react to surprising twists (including a “mystery box” twist), and share their strategies and gut feelings as they select teams for the season. Opinions fly about who could be a comp beast, social player, villain, or wildcard, with plenty of classic RHAP antics and rapid-fire analysis.

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Key Discussion Points & Draft Picks

1. Kicking Off the Season

• Celebrating Big Brother’s return and recapping the “bombastic” preseason of rumors and cast reveals.
• Announcement of “RahabCon” (RHAP-con) in Milwaukee, August 26–28: live podcasts, games, community.

Quote [03:13], Puya:

“We’re back. We’re absolutely back. And honestly, there’s a lot of reasons to be hyped right now, so can’t complain, literally, about anything.”

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2. Draft Order & Strategy

[07:59–09:57]

• Draft determined by last year’s winner, Taran:
  1. Taran
  2. Puya
  3. Aman
  4. Melissa
  5. Rob

Notable banter about “gestures” and strategic placement.

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3. The “Mystery Box” Twist

[11:48–17:12]

• CBS has announced two returning players, Angela (BB26) and Rick Devins (Survivor).
• There is also a rumored unannounced mystery entrant, referred to as the "mystery box".
• Taran, as first pick, selects the Mystery Box over all known houseguests.

Quote [13:18], Taran Armstrong:

“I’m going with the unknown. I’m picking the mystery box as my number one pick on the board.”

• Speculation abounds: could be a physical threat, an unknown legend, or possibly a woman to balance returnees.
• Discussion about how veteran reveals have trickled out before the premiere, with media sources (Dalton Ross, Sharon Tharp) breaking news before CBS.

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4. First Round Draft Picks & Reactions

[20:03–29:03]

Puya Pick 1: Barrett

• Podcaster and superfan; “jumbotron engineer.”
• Seen as a strategic and affable player, but height and possible overplaying are flagged as risks.
• Strong early favorite across panel.

Quote [22:04], Puya:

“Give me the person who engineers Jumbotrons. I would like Barrett on my team. Thank you.”

Aman Pick 1: Jason (Drag Race’s Esteris / Selena Estires)

• “As the Drag Race aficionado on this panel, I can’t not take Jason.”
• Lauded for competitive spirit and showmanship.
• Given advice by friend and BB alum Frankie Grande.
• Concern: might overplay, needs to pace BB appropriately.

Quote [30:04], Aman:

“If you can survive RuPaul’s Drag Race twice, you can do anything.”

Melissa Pick 1: Ashley

• High-variance pick: bubbly energy, claims superfan status, “could go either way.”
• Comparison to Janelle, potential to be underestimated.

Quote [40:27], Melissa Denny:

“I could see her being like a Janelle kind of person. I don’t know. I just, I liked that she wanted to play the game.”

Rob Pick 1: Lyric

• Cites intelligence, legal background; “secret lawyer.”
• Has American Idol alumni status; panel discusses her awkward audition clip.
• Some concern about sincerity and “fame-seeking” vibes.

Quote [46:31], Rob:

“She is a secret lawyer… Grandma was a big fan of the show… Success runs in her family.”

Rob Pick 2: Rick Devins

• Survivor veteran, beloved underdog.
• Recognized for scrappy gameplay and charisma, but doubts about longevity in BB format.

Quote [54:41], Rob:

“Rick Devins is the consummate underdog. Everybody is always mad at Rick Devins. He’s always on the bottom. He may well be nominated for eviction at this exact moment. But… one thing I know about Rick Devins, he gets out of it.”

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5. Second Round & Notable Player Analyses

Melissa Pick 2: Latrice [61:25]

• 57 years old, bodybuilder, high-energy “mother” figure.
• Draws comparisons to Tiffany (BB23).
• Seen as both fun and a potential strategic social player.

Quote [62:09], Aman:

“Blackity black. Don’t crickety crack, baby.” (on Latrice looking shockingly young for 57)

Aman Pick 2: Drew [66:18]

• Social player, part of Jubilee and Beast Games YouTube content.
• Known to RHAP, personally messaged panel to campaign for a draft pick.
• Critique: Is he there for BB or just content/fame?

Quote [71:47], Aman:

“Village to win Big Brother, okay. Obviously got a village… But at the same time, he does seem to have like a really cool head on his shoulders.”

Puya Pick 2: Hailey [75:02]

• Bubbly, athletic, “normal”; perhaps too low-key.
• Panel agrees she could be a comp beast and loyal ally if she wakes up a bit.

Quote [79:08], Rob:

“Go ahead, girl. Give us nothing.”

Taran Pick 2: Chuck [83:32]

• Supply chain analyst, buff, likable.
• Knock for being a casual fan and game model after Corey Brooks (BB18), but offers social upside.

Quote [83:47], Taran:

“He seemed very charismatic… He seems easily to get along with, and that will hopefully make up for some of the lack of knowledge.”

Taran Pick 3: Melody [88:34]

• Corporate game show host, describes herself as lifelong superfan (“since in the womb”).
• Panel finds her somewhat flat in interviews; worries about emotion, but appreciates self-awareness and willingness to go “villain” if needed.

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6. Final Rounds & Notable Picks

Puya Pick 3: Mallory [94:01]

• Rocket scientist/engineer, athletic, social.
• Panel notes production “nerded her up” in promo, but Instagram reveals “party girl” side. Major “sleeper” potential.

Aman Pick 3: Angela

• Returnee from BB26, “obvious plot armor,” unpredictable.
• Not expected to win but provides drama and experience.

Quote [102:18], Aman:

“Angela is crazy. Okay? But we’re gonna have so much fun with her.”

Melissa Pick 3: Kamu

• UFC fighter/gym owner, “nice guy,” social but very physical.
• May struggle to downplay threat level; concern over fit in competitive, vet-heavy cast.

Rob Pick 3: Taylor [117:58]

• Wildcard/unknown, gave vague answers, mysterious “big B blowout” strategy; possible sleeper for late game.

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7. Undrafted Houseguests – The Chat Gets Cooked

[121:51–129:57]

• Yash: Smart, but inexperienced and possibly out of depth—panel suspects "chatGPT taught him BB strategy."
• Rome (a.k.a. Jack): “Alpha” personality, refers to “betas and submissives”—panel universally put off by his approach and lack of subtlety.

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8. Closing Thoughts & Team Recaps

[130:19–132:37]

• Each panelist recaps their roster and rebuts suggestions that their teams are “cooked.”
• Ample laughs, classic RHAP inside jokes, and good-natured hopes for everyone drafted.

Notable closing quote:

[132:01] Aman: “You know, I think kind of all have a really good shot. I do. I think that there's something for everybody on everybody's team.”

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9. Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On “Mystery Box” picks and twists:
  • “You can only put me down by putting me late in the order. When you put me up in the order, I'm unstoppable.” —Taran, [09:01]
• About contestants messaging panelists:
  • “If there's any indication of how he's going to play in the house…” —Taran (on Drew IG DMs), [70:31]
• Draft banter:
  • “Girl, give us nothing.” —General, regarding Hailey, [79:08]
• On production's character styling:
  • “I think this is the dirtiest production has ever done anybody.” —Taran (on Mallory's ‘nerd’ edit vs her true persona), [97:43]
• Compiling normalcy:
  • “She might just be, like, one of the more normal ones, and that’s okay. Like, you can take some normalcy on Big Brother. Lord knows we need it.” —Aman, [81:33]

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10. Timestamps for Key Segments

• RahabCon Announcement: [06:09–07:59]
• Draft Order & Strategy: [07:59–09:57]
• Mystery Box Twist & Discussion: [11:18–17:12]
• First Round Picks & Key Analysis: [20:03–29:03]
• Jason/Drag Race Discussion: [30:03–37:36]
• Mallory Instagram Reveal: [96:13–98:31]
• Yash & Rome Analysis: [121:51–129:57]

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11. Panel’s Tone and Chemistry

• The episode is energetic, irreverent, and packed with inside jokes and callbacks to both BB history and RHAP memes.
• Frequent self-deprecation (“I don’t see it for this guy,” “my is dry”), brutal draft honesty, and affectionate teasing.
• The group balances serious strategic analysis with classic RHAP snark.

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12. For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This draft pod is the essential, hilarious rundown on the new season—a fast-moving blend of cast assessments, preseason rumors, production meta, and the signature RHAP banter that makes the BB preseason a fan favorite. Whether you’re spoiler-free or deep into Twitter sleuthing, you’ll come away feeling up to speed and in on the fun as the Big Brother 28 season begins.

Transcript

[Melissa Denny]

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[Aman Adwin]

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[Melissa Denny]

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[Aman Adwin]

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[Melissa Denny]

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[Puya]

Just saying.

[Aman Adwin]

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[Melissa Denny]

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[Aman Adwin]

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[Taryn Armstrong]

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[Aman Adwin]

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[Rob Cestrinino]

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[Puya]

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[Melissa Denny]

Ready?

[Taryn Armstrong]

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[Puya]

I'm gonna eat whatever that is.

[Melissa Denny]

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[Aman Adwin]

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[Rob Cestrinino]

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[Puya]

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[Rob Cestrinino]

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[Melissa Denny]

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[Rob Cestrinino]

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[Puya]

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[Aman Adwin]

you turn that rhythm into your soundtrack

[Puya]

for a great day. Fuel to start.

[Aman Adwin]

Whatever's next.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Quaker, Official sponsor of FIFA World Cup 26. Hey, everybody. What's going on? Rob Cestrinino. We are back for Big Brother 28 draft night. And tonight we are going to be drafting for the winner of Big Brother 28, which kicks off in 24 hours. Are you ready for a wild next couple of months? And of course, a man who is all set and ready to go. It's Taryn Armstrong. Taryn, how are you doing?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Great. Happy to be here. Rob. We. We looked at the cast yesterday. We've already had some more news. And so I'm ready to really dive in here.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes. Okay. Yeah. Very excited to get into everything here tonight. And we're excited. We're only two days away from first Puya Friday of the season, even though the live feeds won't start until night time. It's Pu.

[Puya]

But the live Feeds will begin that day, Rob. And we will be there that night. I'm going to be very excited.

[Rob Cestrinino]

A Puya Friday.

[Puya]

Still a Friday. Yeah, we'll count it. I'm excited. We're. We're back. We're absolutely back. And honestly, there's a lot of reasons to be hyped right now, so can't complain, literally, about anything.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yep, it's gonna be a fun night. And we are back, joined by the voice of the. So excited to get back together today with Melissa Denny.

[Melissa Denny]

Yay. I'm so excited. I cannot wait to podcast again. I have not really done a podcast since I did Diary Room with Aman, but before that, nothing, Nothing. It was my break, but I'm ready for my break to be over. I'm so excited to be here.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. And of the aforementioned, here he is. Find out if there will be any chapstick eating tonight. It's Ahmad Edwin.

[Aman Adwin]

I'm, like, freshly out. I'm, like, trying to find a. A prop to, like, show to the camera, but I don't have any right now. But regardless of that, I'm very excited for BB28. It has been a very interesting, very loud and just, like, bombastic preseason. So for it all to coalesce and to come down to tonight and tomorrow night, I'm so excited. So yay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Aman. You're right. There was so much smoke in the preseason, really, for weeks, about all of the rumors and all of the things that were going to be happening. A couple of those things have come true, but probably not as many as we were anticipating.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, you know, it's. You know, where there's smoke, there is fire. And, you know, it's always hard in the beginning of every preseason because the rumor of, like, returnees or stunt casting is evermore. It's evergreen. But this season, the flavor of it felt a little different. And so I'm glad to know that our instincts were correct. And it's been. Yeah, it's been confirmed that we get some really, really cool people in the house this year. So. Okay. All right.

[Rob Cestrinino]

We're going to talk about all that here tonight as we are going to be drafting in just a moment. Taran won the last draft for Big Brother and Survivor, which is, I guess, is also appropriate as we're talking about this cast. So Taryn will give us the draft order in just a moment. I'm coming off of. I had a wild podcast earlier tonight talking about Love island with Kirsten and Scally, and there was a team from Chili's at My house to serving bombshell margaritas. So I might be a little. A little off tonight.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Bombshell.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes. Could be. Could be.

[Aman Adwin]

All right, a margarita is entering the villa.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Be honest. How much did you explore with those bombshells?

[Rob Cestrinino]

I did some exploring. I did. I am exclusive now with the bombshell margarita. I'm happy to announce. So big news for me. So fun podcast if you want to go check that one out. But we are so excited to get into it. Let me give you a just a one other. How about an announcement real quick at the start of this thing? All right. We're gonna be so excited to be back together with everybody talking Big Brother. But that's not the only big news coming up for the summer because we have been long trying to put something together for the RJP community. A little get together at the end of the summer and we finally can announce that is happening. And so for the. Rob has a podcast faithful. We hope that we can see you later this summer as Sam. Do you have the. Do you have the card? We can officially announce Rahabcon is happening in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and it's going to be from August 26th to through the 28th, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we're going to have not one, but two live Big Brother podcasts. I believe everybody that you're seeing here on this panel, I believe will be there for the event. So we're very excited. The patrons, we're going to send out some information later on this week, but it's going to be podcast. We're going to be playing games. I think it's going to be a very fun interactive experience. And this is. We did it way back when, but I'd like to make this an annual tradition and I think this is going to be a really fun event coming up at the end of August. More details to follow. All right, Taryn, are you ready to drop the draft order on us tonight?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I don't know if ready is the word, but I was, I was informed earlier as well that there was a prize for winning the draft last year. And, and I actually, I protested this prize, but I now reluctantly have to accept. I believe, Rob, you were the one that. That offered this prize. A signed copy of behind the Mirror now goes to me. Thank you.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes. How do you describe it, Taryn?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I. I guess I would inscribe it to. To the winner of the draft. Thanks for picking Ashley. You're great.

[Melissa Denny]

Wow.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Wow. Okay.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Well, good job by you, Taryn.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Thank you.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right, so you did pick Ashley with the first pick overall who will have that honor of picking first this season?

[Taryn Armstrong]

We gotta go back to back. I gotta pick first again. Listen, listen. You can only put me down by. By putting me late in the order. When you put me up in the order, I'm unstoppable. I gotta be here. Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right, who's got the second pick?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Well, who? Ya gestured for it, so I'm gonna give it to Puya.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Puya]

Thank you, Puya.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Psyched?

[Puya]

I am. I really am.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Taryn Armstrong]

All right, third pick. Now, listen, I, I, I'm open. Who wants it?

[Puya]

There's no gesturing.

[Taryn Armstrong]

There's no gesturing.

[Aman Adwin]

No.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Amman looks concerned. I'm gonna give it to Aman

[Aman Adwin]

in the middle. You go Aman. Wow.

[Taryn Armstrong]

All right, Rob and Melissa.

[Puya]

Rob.

[Taryn Armstrong]

What? What do you prefer?

[Rob Cestrinino]

I'll say that I prefer. I would prefer the, I guess fifth. It doesn't really matter. I don't mind going later.

[Taryn Armstrong]

All right, Melissa, you okay with that?

[Melissa Denny]

I'll take it.

[Taryn Armstrong]

All right, Melissa fourth, Rob fifth. I think I just made everyone happy.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah. Happiness is overjoyed.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah. It's an interesting emotion, happiness.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Listen, I don't know why.

[Melissa Denny]

Why does happiness feel so bad?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I opened the door for gestures and only got one.

[Melissa Denny]

I'm not gonna beg for it, Taryn. I figured you'd give me something good because, you know, like, we're partners in this, but that's fine.

[Puya]

I put a hand up. There was no begging

[Melissa Denny]

this. It looked a little bit like this. I'll tell you that.

[Puya]

One hand was up. There were no two hands connecting. That was not the case.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. Oh, boy.

[Taryn Armstrong]

All right, well, I have the first pick.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes. Now, you gave you the opportunity to give yourself any pick. Was there somebody that was really. Do you feel like head and shoulders above the rest of, of this cast, that before you would reveal who you were for, but was there somebody that you felt like was this un. Head and shoulders above the field.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Head and shoulders, knees and toes, Rob, because listen, you, you get a big brother cast. Sometimes you're optimistic, sometimes you're pessimistic. And then you watch a season like 27, and it's fun, but you're kind of like, ooh, strategically, we were kind of hoping for a little bit more. And so there is a strange situation happening with this cast, which is that we have some names announced. We have some additional names announced. We have not talked about that yet.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes.

[Taryn Armstrong]

So we can reveal. It has been revealed, officially announced, that we will be getting two more players. One, Angela from season 26, and Rick Devins from recent most Recently, Survivors. Yes, they are on the board. But, but there is even one more spot that has been heavily rumored but yet to be fully confirmed. A mystery box.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Of a, of a pick.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Mystery box that.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yes.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Could be. And, and really a mystery box could be, could be anything. Anything could be in a mystery box. It could be. It could be a mystery dvd.

[Taryn Armstrong]

A mystery dvd, Exactly. We could pop it in.

[Rob Cestrinino]

It could be anything.

[Taryn Armstrong]

The no longer existent disc drive of the PlayStation 6.

[Rob Cestrinino]

So,

[Taryn Armstrong]

but, so my thought was, my thought was the mystery box could be anything. It could be nobody. It could be somebody. And if history has anything to say, it's that anybody or anything is better than your average Big Brother cast. So I'm going with the unknown. I'm picking. The mystery box is my number one pick on the board.

[Rob Cestrinino]

A mystery dvd. A. A DVD player even. Interesting. Interesting. Now the mystery DVD could be very exciting.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah.

[Puya]

Great dvd.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

You know what they say about those blank discs.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Could be anything.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I'm imagining, I'm imagining a world where this is a player. It's like somebody who's like really physically strong, who's going to win competitions. Sure. Somebody who's in just the right age range, around 29 years old. Somebody who has experience being on shows like this, maybe even winning shows like this. Somebody who's going to fit in with most of the people in the house, win competitions and also be connected to some of the other veteran players. This is my ideal scenario for a mystery box.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes. Yes. I could see it being a woman.

[Taryn Armstrong]

That'd be great.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah. Because we've had surprise house guests in the past. They've been women, right?

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes. And yeah, I could, I could see it being somebody who is a challenge competitor. Maybe not. Maybe it's not somebody that knows Big Brother as well as the other shows potentially, but I think potentially the type

[Puya]

of player who totally.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes.

[Puya]

Could do well in this environment, whether or not they have the knowledge for it. I could see it.

[Rob Cestrinino]

I could see them getting along with Rick Devins also. Being a mystery person.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Exactly.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

There's, there's, there's so many, so many extra features on this DVD that I think that we've yet to explore. Yeah. And you just gotta press play, you know, because I could think that she's there to play. Very much so. So, yeah, I concur with this pick. It probably would have been mine as well.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

Probably would have been all of ours.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

So not mine. But only because this rumored person is not someone I've ever seen play. So I don't have any idea what this rumored person does, so. Or is, like, interesting the first time I'm seeing this rumored person play anything.

[Puya]

Melissa, I think just like the DVD sign hitting the perfect corner of a television, you're gonna come to see that this person could be a perfect fit for this show. I think you're gonna like.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah. And I could see this mystery person maybe that lots of people in the cast want to get in a showmance. I could see a mystery person maybe showmancing.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Listen, if this. If this person was open to a showmance, even better. Showmances, you know, they can. They can do pretty well.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I'm here for it. You know, I'm. I'm here for the mysteries. Let's solve it together.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. All right. Anything else to say about a potential mystery person?

[Aman Adwin]

Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right. Well, now everybody else is. Now that.

[Taryn Armstrong]

That's.

[Melissa Denny]

Now we can actually say stuff.

[Puya]

Yeah, we're out in the open now.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. I think we're. We. So according to what's been reported, that Taryn will learn the identity of this mystery diva on Friday night.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yes. And listen, this is such a good pick because there is a chance that I open the mystery box, and it's not anything what I wanted or expected, if it's anything at all, because who knows? Why is it happening on Friday and not now? We don't know these things.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah. So we'll see.

[Melissa Denny]

It does seem odd that, like, they've. There's three people coming into the house and two of them have been, like, announced, but it wasn't really announced by cbs. It was announced by, like, Entertainment Weekly or something.

[Rob Cestrinino]

So Dalton Ross had broken the news yesterday that Rick Devins was going to be on there, and then Sharon Tharp broke the news that Angela was going to be on the cast.

[Melissa Denny]

So then is the idea that, like, we're the next media outlet or something to get the next one?

[Rob Cestrinino]

Maybe Mike Bloom will announce something on Thursday, but from what we've heard that it is going to be on Friday night, maybe even on the Big Brother Unlocked or.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

Is the idea a lot of sense.

[Melissa Denny]

Did CBS tell Entertainment Wheatler, Dalton Ross and Sharon to, like, release this information? Or was it like they heard it from somewhere and they said this is, like, what we. It's been now confirmed because we asked.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

It's my understanding this was not, like, their reporting. I think it was like, that they got the blessing. It wasn't like.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, okay.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah, okay. Okay. So then that is very odd. And it makes me think that whoever the third person is, like, there is a chance that maybe they don't come into the house, or it's like a. They're not gonna play. Or maybe it's like, the house guests have an option and maybe this person won't, so they can't say it's a confirmed house guest. Or maybe. And it also seems odd that there's three of them. Like, yes. Why not?

[Taryn Armstrong]

A lot of audience.

[Melissa Denny]

2. It all just doesn't really make sense. And then there was that news that. That said there. I guess Hamster Watch said that there's a bunch of, like, competitions, and, like, there's going to be, like, legends that they're competing against or seeing or something is going to happen, and some of them might come into play. And it just feels weird that, like, I don't know, something feels off about this. And, I don't know, like, I could understand if it was two Survivor players, two Big Brother players. And then it's like, okay, now the four of them are coming in, but it feels weird to have, like, Angela and then, like, two Survivor people. It just doesn't. It feels odd.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah.

[Puya]

Well, yeah. When Taryn ends up with Lawan on his team Friday night.

[Taryn Armstrong]

How did you know he was who I was describing?

[Puya]

It was uncanny, quite frankly. Fit perfectly.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

Mystery power. Showing dividends. Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. All right, let's go to Puya.

[Aman Adwin]

Yes.

[Puya]

Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Well, number two.

[Puya]

Pick number two. I will say, Taryn, I kind of thought you might go exactly this direction, which is why I put my hand up, because I was like, in the event that this person's off the board, I do not want the only other person I feel very strongly about off rip for the first round to go. You know, the five of us, we've come a long way. We've been doing this for quite a while.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Melissa and I'm on this panel.

[Puya]

It's year six with this panel, and me, Aman and Melissa will hit 10 years of podcasting with you, Rob, in, like, three months, four months. So we're getting there, right? What better way to celebrate that than to bring a fellow podcaster onto my team? This is someone who I loved everything I was hearing from. I'm very excited to get to see this person play. I'm excited for them to get their opportunity to play and to. To go with what Liana said. What does a jumbotron engineer mean? Give me the person who engineers Jumbotrons. I would like Barrett on my team. Thank you.

[Melissa Denny]

It's a good Pick. It's a good pick. I would have picked him. I. I appreciate another podcaster mm coming up because I feel like they obviously would just know the game more. And yeah, I'm excited to see him play.

[Puya]

My only concern. I'm gonna start with concerns because I really only have one because I think Barrett seems like the type of person who could do well in comps. I think is someone's gonna be very sociable, very easy to get along with, and has the mind for the game. Looks like you've mentioned breaks these games down, these shows down. I think has the things. My only concern for one Barrett is Barrett could get in Barrett's way overthinking or over playing. Other than that, I do not see any faults as of right now besides maybe. And again, I'm the one wearing a hoodie on this panel. I'm not fashion forward. I don't know if I love the cutoff tee with the overall. I don't know if I was here for that. I didn't understand it.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah, his look is a little bit, you know, put him in a purple shirt. I think it's kind of giving Waluigi.

[Puya]

Yeah,

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think there's another call for concern, which is with something Rob pointed out yesterday. His height. He's too tall, which I do think will help in challenges, but also will make him stand out in. In a way that could be concerning. But. But yeah, Barrett, I think, is one of the de facto early favorite picks here. He knows the show really well. He. He seems, you know, socially well adjusted enough for somebody that knows the show so well, unlike most of us podcasters. And so. So he, I think, can do pretty well. In addition to that, you know, he knows who the people coming in are and he knows that it's probably despite the fact that he said that his hot take is that he doesn't like returning players, knows, I would imagine, not to give that away, and also, I am assuming, knew that the chances of returning players were very high and so would have been able to prep himself for such an event. In addition to that, I've heard rumors that he may even have a connection to mystery boxes and that that could be beneficial to him in the event where a mystery box is doing well in the game really

[Rob Cestrinino]

well. I'd like to hear, is there a

[Melissa Denny]

way to say that connection, like without saying who that mystery box is?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I've heard he's. I've heard he is friends with and. Or friendly with one Rizzo.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

You know, this is a guy that is you know, he's one of us. And I can totally see him falling into sort of like the. Maybe not necessarily playing the game like one easy glicker, but more so occupying that space of, like, hey, I know who you are. I've watched your seasons. I like how you play. I'm your biggest fan. Let's go to the end together. And so I just feel like it's a fantastic spot to be in for a season like this, you know, I, I, I think he's obviously been around a lot of reality TV veterans, survivors, big brother players, and I think he knows how to talk to them. He knows what questions to ask them, to flatter them, to make them feel good about their appearances on the show. So I'm seething at the fact that Puya has this person, because this was my first pick.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

But it's fine.

[Rob Cestrinino]

I've watched Rick Devins play on not one, but two seasons of reality tv. Rick Devins typically only has one friend, but his one friend tends to be the nerdiest guy on the season. So could have an ally here in Barrett.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

I feel like he. I feel like the height would be good for him. Like, Michael Brunner, like, he was so good in all the competitions, and he's was so tall.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Targeted in week one, though.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah. But, like, who cares if you keep winning everything, right? Like, exactly. Eventually, you know, you know you're gonna win. So I don't know. I feel like I thought that the height would be, like, beneficial for him in competitions, maybe, like, odd and, like, social situations maybe. I don't know. I'm very short, so I'm not sure, but I don't have experience with being very tall, but I feel like I was very excited by. I liked him already just watching his, like, bio thing, which, by the way, I want to say that, like, I loved the way that they did the YouTube, the Bro Vo reveal, because I feel like I'm always searching all over the Internet trying to find, like, random little clips every year to be like, okay, well, let me see, like, what this person says. But this gave me, like, so much content, and all I had to do was just sit there and, like, watch the YouTube video. And it was. It was excellent. And I know there were a lot of complaints. Saints of like, man, they're doing a lot of, you know, this is long. It's too long. I wanted just a brief thing. I'm like, no, I. Give me more. I want to see more content. So, like, you know, fast forward it if you think it's too long. I thought it was great. So, yeah, I, I really liked him right off the bat then finding out he's a podcaster and is like, really? Actually, because, you know, everyone says, like, I'm a super fan. I watch the live feeds and it's like, you really don't know what that is. Then you see that he actually is like a podcaster about the show and the other, and other shows. And it just made me feel like, okay, no, this guy, this guy is actually a fan. He does know what he's doing. So I am excited to see him play. Obviously, I think there could be, you know, downsides to that. We see the superfan thing, like, you know, be a problem all the time. But, you know, this was. Yeah, I'm, I'm excited to see him.

[Aman Adwin]

He seems very measured though, like, because I've, you know, I, it took me a second to realize who he was because I have watched his podcast over the years and I feel like his appearance has changed a little bit. And so when I saw his co host saying, oh my God, my best friend's on, on the show, I was like, oh, wait, that's Barrett. I was like, oh, holy crap. And so like, now that I'm like remembering, you know, how he comes off on this on his podcast, I'm like, he really feel, I mean, he's definitely a super fan, but he doesn't feel like the craze type of unhinged, cracked super fan. He feels like he's very, you know, level headed. The one thing that does give me a little bit of pause is, you know, in his little intro package, he's. They, I guess they all, they asked him all the question of like, are you gonna be a hero? Are you gonna be a villain? And he says, like, I would like to think of myself as a hero, but I'm probably not. I feel like I'm a little bit more gamey than everybody else. I'm probably being a villain. So I'm kind of like, does that mean that you are going to be a little bit too strategy focused where you kind of like lose a little bit of your humanity in that house? I don't know. Let's hope not. But yeah, that's, that's the only reservation that I had about him. Otherwise. I think he's a really big.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Anything else that you have as a takeaway that you've watched him as a podcaster?

[Aman Adwin]

No, I mean, I think that he, his, his, the way that, I mean, he's like, when I used to watch him, he seemed to be sort of like the moderator of the conversation on his podcast, and so it felt like he was. Is very good at, like, directing conversation and steering narratives. And so I'm wondering if that's going to come forward and how he steers the narrative in the house. It could be very useful. So, again, I think it's a really, really good pick for sure.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah. Okay. All right, let's go to pick number three, which should be Amon.

[Aman Adwin]

Okay. I'm a new. I'm a new aman, guys.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I don't.

[Puya]

Oh.

[Aman Adwin]

I don't perseverate. I don't. I don't sit here and take forever anymore. Okay. I'm very decision focused and. Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah. What changed?

[Aman Adwin]

You know, I'm medicated.

[Puya]

Rob.

[Aman Adwin]

No, I'm kidding. You know, I just. I think I'm just laser focused. You know, I think I'm. I'm here for it. And I was very cautious about making this decision because, you know, I think it's a very obvious one for me, and I really wish that I could have had Puyas pick first, and then maybe this person would have fallen back to me, but probably not. So maybe it's rather fortuitous that this is going to happen for me. I'm going to go ahead and take Esteris. Esteris. Selena. Esteris. Yes, baby. Yes, yes, yes. You know, as the Drag Race aficionado on this panel, I can't not take Jason.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

I've watched him now for two seasons of RuPaul's Drag Race, and anybody that can go on the main stage of RuPaul's Drag Race, the main season, get eliminated, be the narrator of that season, mind you, and then go to a viewing party and talk absolute trash. And when I say trash, I mean absolute trash about one of the judges on that show, and then still get invited back for All Stars when RuPaul and his associates are very well known for holding grudges for people that talk shit about them. Excuse me. Talk trash about them. Oh, honey, the game is afoot with this person. I'm ex. I'm super excited. Jason is obviously a super, super, super duper fan. I'm sure that Frankie has given him every single amount of a blessing that he can, all the advice and information that he can, and he's coming into this so armed and such a fan and such a showman. And I really actually liked his idea of strategy of, like, being all broy bro with the straight guys and trying to follow in Frankie's footsteps, because Did Frankie win? No. But was Frankie controlling that house? The majority of BB16? Yes. Kind of. Sorta. So, like, I'm. I'm excited to see how this pans out for him. I think that he. I think that he's coming in with, like, a really, really, really, really nice spot, especially given the fact that even if he is a reality TV veteran, in a sense, there are two and or three more people in that house that are going to take the target off of him.

[Rob Cestrinino]

You know, I think that Jason is coming in with a bit of an advantage. It's seems like that the way that we are loading the people in this season is that I would imagine we're gonna see 14 people lined up and going into the house together, and it seems like that Jason is going to be part of that group. I'd be surprised if any of these other reality TV alumni enter with the house guests. I feel like that it'll be more of, like, a reveal to the house guests. So Jason really gets to have his cake and eat it too, where I think he gets to come into the house as one of the newbies, but also is going to have the ability to connect with the veterans as the people who were on other reality shows. So I think that he's going to

[Aman Adwin]

be in both worlds for sure.

[Melissa Denny]

I really like him. I'm very excited to watch him play. I like that he is a fan of the show and wants to play. Strategically, I think you're totally right about the Frankie Grande thing. Like, you can say whatever you want about, oh, he's friends with Frankie Grande. What does that mean? But it's like, that is a connection. That is someone who you. If you're best friends with someone or you're really good friends with somebody, like, you can ask them questions about, like, what was it? Like, what do you recommend? What should I do? What should I look out for? Like, that is very exciting. Obviously, he's watched the show, which I feel like is super important, and I think he's going to be really entertaining. I was totally entertained by his intro video, and I just am excited to see him play. I'm really excited to watch and see what he has to offer.

[Aman Adwin]

The fact that he's coming off of being eliminated From All Stars 11 right into the Big Brother house, Like, appearing concurrently on two reality shows at once is. I mean, come on. Like, you just can't. It doesn't get any better than that.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Aman, can you. Can you explain to me what happened on All Stars? Because I've. I've read his. I've read his exit interview where basically he described the scenario where, like, he was wheeling and dealing, but nobody else was really willing to go to that level, and that's why things fell apart. But I've heard from other people that are like, well, no, he was just playing way too hard and that's why they turned on him.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah. So Drag Race All Stars, they're doing this thing where it's a tournament of all Stars, where the queens essentially get to gain points and give points away. It's completely different from, like, the regular season of Drag Race. And so in his instance, he's going around trying to promise people, like, well, if I lose and if you win, give me your point, and if I win, I'll give you my point. And he's doing a lot. And in my opinion, he's doing everything that's great for Big Brother in terms of, like, emotional ass drag queens. This is not the way to play. And he's playing it up to the cameras. He's really going for, like, the Mastermind edit. But I'm like, baby, this is Drag Race with drag queens. These are artists that are really sensitive about their work, and it's not going to work in the same way that you think it is going to. And so essentially, he does a lot of willing and dealing. One of his queen, one of his fellow sisters, ends up, like, not giving him the point that he would have needed to progress to the finals. It turns like, big blow up at the end. It's very good tv. But, yeah, so essentially he just. He did too much for Big Brother, but he did just enough. Or he did too much for Drag Race, but did just enough for Big Brother.

[Taryn Armstrong]

So, yeah, I think, obviously there's a lot to look forward to with Jason. I think there's a lot of promise here. If I had to try to find a concern, it would probably be that. That he has now experienced two seasons of a very different kind of show and may come into Big Brother with the mindset, maybe of the mindset of, like, oh, now I can really unleash and might need to, like, tone down the strategy a little bit so as not to appear too overtly strategic. Even though the assumption was like, oh, this would have worked fine in Big Brother. Yeah, it's like, Big Brother is very slow. You do need to be very active, but in a way that is not too in people's faces. And so maybe that's a concern. But I. I think, again, having Survivor players on the cast helps a lot because they too are used to a much faster pace as we saw with siree game and will also likely be wheeling and dealing and will also have bigger targets on their back. So I really do think Jason is in is quite the good position here.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Aman, I'm seeing in the chat, does Jason have a catchphrase? I'm seeing a lot of people talking about Peck Pecs.

[Aman Adwin]

That was okay, so the other queen that, you know, he had been willing and dealing with, trying to manipulate was Aura Mayori. He referred to her as his Peck Peck. And during one of the episodes where she didn't vote for him because she kind of screwed him over twice, she didn't vote for him to get a point like the the, the penultimate episode of their part of the bracket and Aura comes to her like saying, I'm so sorry, like I I didn't really think that I. I thought that you would be fine. I didn't even know that it was like this deep for you. And he's like, but you're my Peck Peck. So that's like his little pet name, his manipulative little pet name to get votes essentially.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Got it.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. Anything else on Jason?

[Aman Adwin]

I'm excited.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Aman Adwin]

And this is gonna. I'm actually very excited for the conglomeration of Big Brother fans and Drag Race fans. Like, obviously there's a lot of crossover, but there are other queens that are like, oh, one of our sisters is on this show. So, like, I can't wait to see how like mainstays crossing the streams start coming into this. Like, this is going to be. This is going to be very interesting this season. I'm very excited. Okay,

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[Rob Cestrinino]

C Terms Melissa, you are up and you have the number four pick pick in this draft.

[Melissa Denny]

Yes. So I'm going to go with someone that this could go either way and I'm hoping it goes in a good way, but it could absolutely go in a horrible way. But I figure might as well go for it. I'm gonna go with Ashley.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Melissa Denny]

I went into watching her videos being like, okay, all right, this girl. And I really liked her. I don't know. I was kind of annoyed at first because she was doing like, I'm kind of nervy. I was like, what do you mean nervy? Just say you're nervous. And then I was like by the end I was like, okay, like I like this girl I actually like. She actually seems to like want to play the game. She says that she's, you know A fan. She says she's watched for years that she's seen live feeds. I don't know about that because she says that she, like, there. It seemed iffy a little bit sometimes, but she talked about Janelle, she talked about Rachel, and I mean, I don't know how she's gonna do in the competitions, but, like, I could see her being like a Janelle kind of person. I don't know. I also, like, for whatever reasons, got Helena vibes. Elena. Elena. God, I'm forgetting her name. BB Canada. Yes. I don't know why I, like, got a vibe of that. Like, but for whatever reason, it just came to me and I. I just. I liked that she wanted to play the game. I could see her coming across as just like, so ditzy that nobody takes her seriously, but having maybe some sort of secret alliance. I don't know. I. This. That's why I say it could go either way. But I feel like I'm just gonna, like, take a chance on her because I got good vibes. So. I don't know.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I also got good vibes. She was the first person in the video and. And right away I was. I was feeling good. She mentions the live feeds. You know, I'm. I'm personally more. And I've been burned before, but I'm personally more willing to believe a person, especially if they bring up the live feeds, especially if they don't call them live streams. I think we're probably in a good place.

[Aman Adwin]

So.

[Taryn Armstrong]

So, yeah, I. I think there's a lot of promise here, and I think that she clearly is there to play and has a competitive edge to her on top of having some knowledge. I think, again, she will get along with other people who are knowledgeable about the show, who are competitive. We're there to play, and I think that's a great place to be. You know, I. I think. I think she could. I think she could be a killer here. I think. I think this is a good pick.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, I liked her too. I thought that she was like, really just. I think that she was very, like, in on how she's portraying herself. I think that production obviously really wanted her to lean into sort of like the. I'm just, you know, I'm here to have fun. I'm a fun girl. I'm a woo girl.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yay.

[Aman Adwin]

Like, and she's here for it. She's here to play that role. I love that. I mean, she's obviously a little hungry for it. I mean, let's be real. The economy is crazy. These days. And I like the fact that she was like, Look, I have $2 in my bank account right now. I could kill for 700, 000.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

Anybody that is hungry for the money, give them to me. So I'm. I'm excited for her, too.

[Puya]

Watching the video, she was the first one. It's always tough when you see the first person. You're like, all right, let me see what else is available. Then I went back and re. Watched the first bit, and I realized how much more energy she had compared to some of the other people. How much more personality was there? I left thinking, I hope I could if. If Ashley slips out of the first one, I hope I can sneak get Ashley in the second round. So her going first round is not a bad call at all because I really did enjoy what I saw as well. And I'm very curious because I do think that energy is kind of contagious. I don't think it's going to be alienating energy. I think it's the exact energy you need. And I think with this group, it could go a long way.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah, I think she's pretty high variance. She could be the star of the season, or she could be kind of quirky and on the outs with people. So I really could see it going either way. So. So I think that she is a classically fun big brother character, and I'm looking forward to seeing what she's going to give us.

[Melissa Denny]

I think if she could join up with, like, a strategist, I think the two of them, like, in some sort of, like, secret alliance sort of thing, I think she could go really far. I. I really just want the.

[Taryn Armstrong]

The ghosts again.

[Melissa Denny]

I do, I do. I do. Sorry, I can't remember.

[Aman Adwin]

Did she say that she was, like, down for a showman, so she wanted ones that said no?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I'm pretty sure almost all of them said yes.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah, I think everybody like.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh, good.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

So, yeah, this is the big brother villa, it seems. All right.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yep.

[Melissa Denny]

Yes.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. All right.

[Melissa Denny]

Oh, is like dating someone.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, Evans, except.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, except. Except Evans

[Taryn Armstrong]

and Angela.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. All right. So I have two picks in a row.

[Puya]

Yes, sir.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Aman Adwin]

Gonna do Rob.

[Rob Cestrinino]

So the second pick, I have a little bit more of a decision to make, but I'm gonna go with one here that I think is the person I. I definitely want to grab here in this spot. And I think that she is smart. I think she brings a lot to the table and has a beautiful voice. I'm gonna go with Lyric. Okay, here's Lyric. And listen I think that she has a high upside. I do think that maybe she might get on everybody's nerves and maybe they don't like her. But I'm going to go with the more rosy outlook for Lyric, who seems like a woman who is a smart customer. She is a secret lawyer. She's not going to tell people about this. She went to Notre Dame. Grandma was a big fan of the show. It's giving Sophie Bilardi, and she's here. Her dad has a one hit wonder.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah. That's part of your reason.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes, yes. Success runs in her family.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I. I listened to Ryan Seacrest sing the song because I watched her clips from American Idol.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh, so what happened in the clip? Because I kept seeing it too, and

[Melissa Denny]

I kept seeing people saying, such a weird clip.

[Aman Adwin]

Like, it's so weird.

[Melissa Denny]

She, like, like, like manhandled her. I don't know.

[Taryn Armstrong]

She likes. Okay, so what happened was, like, what happened was Lyric shows up. Lyric is like, very cutesy and sings a cutesy song, and Katy Perry stops her in the. Did you fly here for 10 hours to look cute or did you come here to sing? Or something along those lines.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Wow.

[Taryn Armstrong]

And so they forced her to change the song in the middle of it. She changed it to, like a Carrie Underwood song. So then she started singing the Carrie Underwood song, and they still were not satisfied because she wasn't giving emotion. She was just singing pretty. And so then Carrie Underwood was like,

[Rob Cestrinino]

get up, attack me.

[Taryn Armstrong]

And, like, ran up and, like, wrestled

[Melissa Denny]

with her, like, grabbing onto her like this. And like, like, as the girl's singing and trying to get her to, like, make an ugly face. And it was just like, I totally got what they were going for. But it was so weird the way she, like, grabbed her and Lyric looked like, so uncomfortable. Like, it wasn't like, oh, now we're like, getting into it together. Lyric was like, like, as she's trying to sing. Very strange, strange video. I couldn't finish the clip because it was so awkward.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Well, you should have finished the clip because then it comes down to Katy Perry, whether or not she goes to Hollywood. And Katy Perry says, essentially, if you want to go to Hollywood, come here and smack me in the face. Just kidding. Just kidding.

[Aman Adwin]

Okay.

[Melissa Denny]

That's so bizarre.

[Taryn Armstrong]

That was such a strange no. Then she did say yes. And so here's the next part. She gets to Hollywood, she says, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna make an ugly face. I'm gonna bring them the passion. And then she, after all of that Went to Hollywood and sang like the, like, most like, Umbrella Twirly song in the world. And they all looked at her like, what in the world are you doing? This is the complete opposite of everything you were. You knew you were supposed to do. And so she did not make it past that point.

[Puya]

What is an Umbrella Twirly song? Can you just describe this for me?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I wish I could remember, like, something like.

[Melissa Denny]

That. It's an Umbrella Twirly song.

[Taryn Armstrong]

She's like, I'm bringing the gritty. And then she was like,

[Melissa Denny]

that's a beautiful song, Taryn.

[Aman Adwin]

Well, you know what, Rob? Anybody that can survive a Katy Perry

[Puya]

lashes look at what she's been through.

[Rob Cestrinino]

She's res. She's gritty.

[Aman Adwin]

You might be on to something here.

[Rob Cestrinino]

She has the Aloha spirit.

[Aman Adwin]

Went through Katy Perry boot camp. Honey, like, this is crazy.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

Oh my God, that's so funny. Yeah, I, I don't know. I normally go for the whole like, attorney thing or like, oh, I'm a secret lawyer thing. Like, I love the like, like Shelby and like, you know, Ashley and I like that sort of thing. I don't know about lyric. I just, I. It. I got vibes that maybe she's like a little much, but maybe it's just for the cameras, like, and once we see her on the feeds, it'll just be like toned down and just very normal. But I don't know. And then I heard there were people talking about how she's like all over, like, Tick Tock, like constantly trying to like, capitalize on her dad's song. And it just feels like someone who's like, who's trying to hunt for like, fame. I mean, she was on American Idol. She's like, like posting on Tick Tock. And I know a lot of the people on this cast are doing that, so like, don't.

[Rob Cestrinino]

She's persistent.

[Melissa Denny]

I'm not saying it's just her, but like, I don't like that.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Sort of go get her.

[Melissa Denny]

I want someone who wants to play the game and who was interested in Big Brother and Shameless. Yeah, if they have like Tick Tocks or whatever, that's fine. But somebody who's like, just. Who's a Tick Tock person, doesn't care about Big Brother and then goes on Big Brother because they hope it'll give them more followers or something like, like that. To me, I don't like that. So, like, I'm not a huge. I. I don't know. I. I mean, I hope that she does well, but it just, I Don't. I don't know. And I could say that about, like, many of the people that are on this cast, because a lot of them were on other shows before this. And I'm not talking about the Drag Race things. That's like a totally different thing, but, like, people who were on, like, random YouTube videos like that. Whatever that one guy did, and then he did the Mr. Beast, the games or whatever, and then

[Taryn Armstrong]

we'll get to him.

[Melissa Denny]

I just feel like it's like all these people just want to be on tv, and they have no interest in actually, like, being on Big Brother. And so to me, that. That is less interesting.

[Puya]

So Lyric has already.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Very quickly.

[Puya]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Because people say this all the time. This has been true of the show since the very beginning. Like, Dr. Will and Mike Boogie got on Big Brother 2 being like, we're gonna be famous. Right. Like, they didn't give a.

[Aman Adwin]

About the show.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Like, that has always been.

[Melissa Denny]

Care about the show in the beginning, when there was no. Nothing to care.

[Taryn Armstrong]

That's what I'm saying, though. That has just. I. I just think that's. That has always been in the DNA of the show. And I think people think that it's a recent thing, but it's really not.

[Puya]

Lyrics already iconic for two reasons. She got us the first Heron reenactment of the season, and then we got Melissa's Kylan moment of this draft through her. So that was incredible. I will say I was also very in on Lyric, and if had I been in the four or five spot, Lyric was who I was gonna go for. One thing, that gave me a little bit of pause and a little bit of thinking was her pick on which player she would like to emulate the game after she picks McKenzie from season 26.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Finalist.

[Puya]

Yeah, but Rob, a finalist that very much lost the game and could have potentially won the game.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

What I would have loved to have heard from her is I would like to be mackenzie with one small change.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah, exactly.

[Puya]

Change one thing.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Because that would have been great.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Puya]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Puya]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right. There's Lyric, pick number five. But I got two. I get another one. I get another one. All right, so to add to my collection with Lyric, I. I'm gonna go with somebody who I do not think would get back to me when I get to the 15th pick. And so do I think this person will win Big Brother 28? Not really. But what if they did? I'm gonna go with Rick Devins. Okay.

[Puya]

I'm not surprised. This is a wrong thing.

[Rob Cestrinino]

I have to take Rick Devins here. He's got an uphill battle for him. Rick Devins is the consummate underdog. Everybody is always mad at Rick Devins. He's always on the bottom. He may well be nominated for eviction at this exact moment. But, you know, one thing I know about Rick Devins, he gets out of it, he gets voted out. He comes back, he's at the bottom. He finds idols, he flips the coins, he wins immunity. He's gonna win a blockbuster. He's gonna get himself off the block and win the power veto. He's going to go up there and tell somebody who's the hoh. He's like, you thought you could get me out, but you can't. I'm back this week. It's going to be great to watch. Historically, the big brother is they get. They get things voted into the house by America. So why can't it be Rick Devins?

[Aman Adwin]

You know, you're right, Rob. Like, I, I think for a lot of these, like, newcomers to reality tv, a lot of them are always going to suffer from that choice paralysis, not knowing what the correct thing to do is. But you have someone like Rick. And this kind of goes for all of the people that are returning to the screen this season. You know, they've been around the block. They're not going to be as in their head about, like, what's the best move, what, you know, how do I progress myself forward? And, you know, I did not. I'm still really, really behind. I'm a bad fan. I have not really seen all of Survivor 50. So, like, this redemption arc that Rick Devins has apparently been on, I'm not as privy to it. It. So I can't really speak to, like, how much he has evolved. That's what I've seen the first time. But I'm willing to, like, give this guy a shot and be like, look, like maybe this maybe big brother, maybe maybe this is more his speed, you know? Yeah.

[Puya]

I don't think we're ready for six sevens with Rick Devins on the feeds. This man is gonna be shot out of a cannon. My big concern with Rick is that.

[Aman Adwin]

That it's.

[Puya]

It's a long game.

[Melissa Denny]

Sure.

[Puya]

And Rick on a short game will be like, I'm just gonna do something goofy and see how that plays out. And he's gonna do that.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Puya]

It's gonna be so entertaining. Like you said, Rob, I don't see him winning.

[Rob Cestrinino]

We're here for a good time, not a long time.

[Puya]

And you're gonna be entertained the whole way and I think we're gonna be very excited for that. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.

[Rob Cestrinino]

I will also say that I think that Rick Devins has a lot of Rachel Riley in him. I, I think that he is going to, you know, he could, he's gonna have his floaters get a life fest moment. He's like, I mean, traditionally Rachel is sort of like left out of the power structure of the house but is very feisty. You don't want to mess with her. He doesn't suffer fools. He's not just gonna sit there and take it if people are icing him out. And so I think he's gonna be a lot of fun to watch. And you know, crazier things have happened on Big Brother.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah, I, oh, go ahead.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I, I, I like Rick a lot. He doesn't have a lot of experience playing from a position of power, which is a concern because playing Big Brother successfully kind of often requires that to some degree thrives in chaos.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Taryn.

[Taryn Armstrong]

He, and exactly. He does. He thrives on chaos and he thrives on being at the bottom. He really prides himself on being able to like, he keep a positive attitude while being down and he really stuck through all the time that he was on the bottom of Survivor 50. The problem is if he's on the block for a week, that's about the entirety of the time he was on the bottom of Survivor 50. The pace is so different. You know what I mean?

[Rob Cestrinino]

I will say also he could come in with a bit of a halo effect of he was so popular on Survivor 50. If there is any overlap between the Survivor 50 audience and the Big Brother audience that there might be a lot of people who maybe feel like, okay, he's not as big of a threat, he's fun to watch, he's fun to have around. So maybe he's like the fun uncle that they want to keep around.

[Taryn Armstrong]

You would hope so. But I think he also came off of Survivor as the mischievous threat that needed to be taken down, that kept getting away with it. And I, I would worry that anybody that had seen Survivor especially casually might go, oh, I liked you a lot, but he's so dangerous.

[Rob Cestrinino]

But I could see him having some utility. I think that he would sit on the block as a pawn. I think he would go into a blockbuster to like, I, I think he's going to play Lucy Goosey. I think that he's ready to play. Yeah, I, I think that he, again, this is probably more of a bad thing than a good thing. I think he has. Has some tucker in him also.

[Aman Adwin]

You got that dog in him.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Got that dog in him.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I'm excited to watch him play. I think this is such a great get for the show. I. I hope we see a decent amount of Rick Devins.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

It's going to be tough to see the world where he wins, but I'm

[Rob Cestrinino]

not sure why he's doing it. But listen, they got him Rob.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I agree.

[Puya]

Rob, can I ask you.

[Aman Adwin]

I saw.

[Puya]

I saw one Stephen Fishback tweet about this. You think Stephen's gonna end up watching this season?

[Rob Cestrinino]

So I texted Stephen if he was going to be wise. Steve was very coy with me about the Rick Devins being in the cast and so I think he. He's definitely going to be checking it out for a while. I do hope to be able to chat with Steven on the podcast. I did not. Rick did not tell me he was going to play. We were trying to get Rick Devins for a deep dive about Survivor 50 and I think he told Sam Moore that he get back to him in a couple of weeks. I think he said was so he rope and rope a doped us.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Don't worry, Rob. We'll do a deep dive of Big Brother.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah. Knock it out. Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Because those are unlimited about other things.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Puya]

Yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

I haven't watched his recently play. I watched his first time playing but. And he. I believe I remember him being entertaining but I feel like that was so long ago. I don't really remember any details. So I am of no use during this analysis. But I'm excited to see him play.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Listen, you didn't watch Survivor 50.

[Melissa Denny]

I have not seen it yet and I think I know the reason why. It's because Survivor like you can just binge watch it. It's not a problem. You don't need to watch it live. But Big Brother, like, like you need to be there to watch the live feeds live. You can't just watch it later. So Survivor I kind of like treat it as if it's some like, like the pit or something. I watched. I watch it as like another.

[Taryn Armstrong]

And yet here you are, Melissa. Rick Devins lists.

[Melissa Denny]

I apparently what if he spoils you

[Rob Cestrinino]

on Survivor 50 on the live feeds?

[Melissa Denny]

Ooh, I feel like I, I luckily have not been spoiled yet but I'm sure that'll happen.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I we don't even need Survivor players to spoil Survivor seasons on the live fees. It happened last year to be fair.

[Melissa Denny]

Like I don't really know Any of the names of the people playing or anything. So I just kind of, like. It just goes like this, and then I end up watching. So, yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Tara, what happened on the live feeds last year?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Sorry, I misremembered. I believe it was Amazing Race that got spoiled, not Survivor.

[Puya]

Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right, there you go. All right, so that's it. Rick, Devins and Lyric are my picks here. And. And I will not pick again until number 15. All right, let's go to Melissa. Back to you for pick number seven.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah, I'm gonna pick Latrice. I really liked her. I thought that she had great energy. She, like, just seemed fun and, like, she'd get along with people well. She says that she's athletic and that she's, like, done a bodybuilding competition. I mean, number one, she looks great. I was, like, watching the videos, and then I would go back to, like, catch their ages and, like, write it down so I'd remember. And I was like, oh, she looks like she might be my age, because I feel like this is a very young cast. So I was like, oh, she might be my age. I think, like, she's probably in her 20s. And I went back to listen to the age, and she said 57. And I was like, yeah, I could

[Rob Cestrinino]

not believe I saw Mon's tweet about Latrice yesterday.

[Melissa Denny]

What was he twinkling?

[Aman Adwin]

Blackity black. Don't crickety crack, baby.

[Melissa Denny]

You didn't want to say that, Rob. You didn't want to take that back.

[Rob Cestrinino]

I was hoping it was just a screen.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah. So she looks amazing. I cannot believe that she's 57. That's insane. So, yeah, she said that she likes Janelle, although she mentioned that Janelle doesn't win. And so she's like, I'm gonna do a little differently. Which I thought was funny. But, yeah, I'm just. I think that she. She knows the game. She. Her social game will probably, like. I feel like her social game could be through the roof. She seems just like a very fun person to hang out with, and I could see her doing well. So, yeah, that's my pick.

[Taryn Armstrong]

My number two pick on the board. I almost got her back.

[Aman Adwin]

Damn.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think she's phenomenal. I think that the way she stood out in that short interview, that short video, it's. It's rare to be able to have that much presence in a spot like that. It's difficult to do. We've seen a lot of really dynamic people seem wooden in those interviews, in those, like, early video spotlights. And she has infectious Energy in the most literal way. I cannot imagine a world where the entire house doesn't love her. And if she's also capable of keeping up with people in competitions and doing well enough there to have a presence, then I think she could absolutely be a force in that house.

[Aman Adwin]

I'm seeing a lot of Tiffany Upside here, for sure.

[Melissa Denny]

That's what I was thinking, too.

[Aman Adwin]

I don't necessarily know, you know, if she's going to fall into, like, sort of like the mastermind type archetype or more so just, just the magnanimous social butterfly of the house. But I agree, Taryn. I think that she was just really fun to watch. And it felt like, it felt, obviously, you know, she's, you know, playing it up a little bit for the cameras, but it still felt honest. It felt like, oh, okay, yes. It's like, you know, you're 57 years old. You know, you got mother of five or four, whatever. She said, like, she's ready to play. Like, this is her time. Like, like, I'm, like, I'm rooting for her. I, I, I want her to do well. Although I do feel like they are setting my girl up and Taylor up with having them both have that same honey blonde hairstyle with that ponytail. And I'm like, people are already speculating that they're, they're like, I mean, like, look. Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

Yes.

[Aman Adwin]

And now they're already saying they look, they, they look like they could be family. So I'm like, oh, I hope one of them takes their hair down or something because, like, it's not looking good right now.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Just reading behind the mirror. They love to do. It's a secret duos twist, right?

[Aman Adwin]

Like, and the people are already, like, having to debunk it online, I thought, I think I saw somebody, like, post a picture of Taylor with her real parents. Like, Latrice is not her mom, y'. All. Like, it's not, it's not what y' all think it is. So I just hope that the same thing doesn't happen in the house. But even if it did, again, I think that she is, she's just fun, and she seems like she's gonna be very, very kind and just ready to play and just ready to get it. So I'm, I'm, yeah, I think this is a great pick for sure.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah.

[Puya]

Another person with a lot of energy that I enjoyed gravitated to her immediately. I genuinely was delusional enough to think that maybe I get her here in the second round. I really, it was looking like it For a hot second, which I was surprised by, but no, this was a great pick, Melissa, and I'm kind of jealous, but I'll move on.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right. Anything else on Latrice? Okay, let's go to then. Amman.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh, is it me again?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Oh.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh, I wasn't prepared.

[Melissa Denny]

Of course not.

[Aman Adwin]

Okay. Oh, damn. Okay, I. I kind of know what I'm gonna do here. I'm nervous about it, but. Okay. So, you know, I take what you said, Melissa, in people seemingly being sort of just like, here for the wrong reasons. And I also agree with what Taran said in that, like, listen, like, people are going to want to be on tv. That's just how human beings are. But I still feel like this guy is here to actually play. And I really enjoy, like, doing a little bit of a deep dive into what he's. He's had going on for himself for the past couple of years. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Drew here.

[Puya]

Drew, yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

What has he been up to the past couple years?

[Aman Adwin]

I mean, do you want to explain what he's been up to the past couple of years?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Drew Campbell was, in fact, on a season of Beast Games. He competed on Beast Games. He's also been, from what I can tell, a regular on Jubilee videos. If you don't know what Jubilee is. Good.

[Rob Cestrinino]

But also

[Taryn Armstrong]

he. One of which was like, a lengthy video where he, him and his girlfriend at the time were taking a lie detector test to see if they were lying to each other. He seemed like a decent enough dude in that video. I haven't seen any of the other videos, but I think he also did one where he's, like, kissing a person. I saw a screenshot of it and. And stuff like that. You know, it's like. It's like, you know, still. And it's got. It's. If you don't. It's. If you've maybe seen it, but haven't seen it, it's like, it's the ones with, like, the all white background every time they're doing something. Which now, many, many videos. Types have a lot of formats.

[Puya]

Yeah, they follow the format now.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah. But. But the. The point being, he's, like, very frequent in the, like, online YouTube space. He's obviously, like, applying to be on a lot of these things. YouTube. Yes. But. But all that said, he is still a big fan of Big Brother. It's not like this is just the latest in a series of, like, random, you know, a journey. Journeys for him. He's been watching since he was 8. He's watched some live feeds and as far as I'm. I'm aware, as far as I've been, you know, able to see, he genuinely does really like the show and genuinely would be there to like play hard card.

[Puya]

I have information.

[Aman Adwin]

Yes. The.

[Puya]

The Drew account on Instagram messaged me last night and said and I'm reading and I'm quoting Puya, make sure Drew doesn't fall in the draft because he's so cool and a huge fan and will win.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Oh.

[Puya]

Which I was like, that there's not enough detail there.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Puya]

They sent a second message and said he's watched live since season 14 and has seen at least 100 hours of RHAP content.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. Oh, wait, hold on. I haven't.

[Melissa Denny]

Interesting. I got similar message from the druid town also.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah, I didn't see this.

[Melissa Denny]

I didn't either. And I just checked and I did get a similar message. I got. Melissa, I need you to make sure Drew doesn't fall in the draft tomorrow because he's going to be super good at social chameleon. He's also a huge fan. Been watching live since season 14 and seen at least 100 hours of RHAP.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

I do appreciate.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Let me tell you why you should make Drew your first round draft pick.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Rob, let me tell you that Drew absolutely needs to be first round draft pick tomorrow.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Drew is a huge fan.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Seen 100 hours of RJP and he can totally overcome the young guy target. He's a social chameleon and will hit the ground running. He also has valid takes and will crush competitions.

[Melissa Denny]

I love it, man.

[Taryn Armstrong]

If there's any indication of how he's going to play in the house.

[Aman Adwin]

So you mean to tell he doesn't

[Taryn Armstrong]

get caught that quick.

[Aman Adwin]

You mean to tell me that the only person that didn't get a message,

[Puya]

he was like, I'm on. Don't pick up everyone else.

[Melissa Denny]

So funny. Yeah. You checked your request?

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, I checked my request. I don't have anything. My is dry. Okay.

[Melissa Denny]

He was not bribed. He did it. He did it for real. This is a real draft.

[Aman Adwin]

I. That. You know what? That just makes me that more excited.

[Puya]

Can I be honest? I was not looking to pick Drew on this draft.

[Aman Adwin]

Right.

[Puya]

I saw that message like I saw the follow up message of 100 hours of RGP and stuff right before the draft and I was like, maybe if he falls to me later in the round. And then I was like, okay, Lala just left. I might pick him now finding out that all of us got message I am so happy I dodged that bullet. I am so happy. Wow. Because I don't know, man.

[Melissa Denny]

So I don't know. I think it's like, I, I, I like someone who's like a hype person. It's not like he's, it's not like he's on there messaging. I was like, please pick me. It's like somebody being like, come on, I, we care about this. I appreciate someone who cares about it.

[Aman Adwin]

Village to win big brother. Okay. Obviously got a village. And I, look, I, has he been on a lot of, like, online content these days? Sure. But I honestly, I mean, what, he's one of the youngest people on the cast. He's 22 years old. Honestly, that is just like the lay of the land these days. Like, these kids are just out here,

[Melissa Denny]

like, they're trying to, yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

Born with phones in their hand. The way they see, you know, making content is literally just a way of life to them these days. So, like, I don't, like, I don't begrudge anybody that's out there trying to make a name for themselves because, like, I feel like that's like the only option that they see at that age. So. But he, at the same time, he does seem to have like a really, like, cool head on his shoulders. I like the fact that he gave out a shout out to, to Eric Stein. I did go ahead and watch the entire jubilee videos where he was, he was part of the video where it's like straight men face their biggest fears. He had to kiss another guy. He had to drop his fans in front of another, like all these other guys. He had to try to make himself cry in front of another guy. Is it a touch red pilly?

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes.

[Aman Adwin]

But like, I, you know, I thought that he seemed really, really, you know, just down to try anything. And I think that's important. I think it's important to want to be able to put yourself out there and to, you know, not be embarrassed about just being who you are. So I think that he could do pretty well. I do.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Worth, Worth noting from the, from the, the lie detector video, he, he seemed vehemently anti Alpha bro to the point where, like, the, the idea of somebody even calling him out, he was like, hell no. Like, I hate that.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

So I'm sure he'll get along swimmingly with Rome.

[Puya]

I love it. Also, I would like to add breaking news from the chat. Maggie also received a message from this account.

[Aman Adwin]

Wow. You know what? Okay, I'm sorry. Little offended. What's going on?

[Melissa Denny]

What's going on. Yeah. And I do just want to say Chappelle.

[Rob Cestrinino]

See if he got one.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh, my God. If Chappelle got one.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I didn't.

[Aman Adwin]

I would eat a. I will eat a chapstick to undraft.

[Melissa Denny]

Oh, no. I. I just want to clarify. I don't have a problem with the people who are, like, trying to go on multiple shows and, like, trying to get famous on TikTok or whatever. Like, I don't have a problem with that. My thing is that, like, I would want them to at least be a fan of Big Brother to come on it and not just come on the show because they just want to, like, be famous. Like, I would want someone to come on the show because, sure, they'd like to be famous, but also, they love the show or. But also they're a fan of the show. Not just, like, hey, any show that will take me, I'll get on. Like, I just. That to me, I don't like that much.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Aman Adwin]

All right.

[Taryn Armstrong]

All right.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah. I just wanted to clarify that, guys.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes.

[Melissa Denny]

All right,

[Rob Cestrinino]

let's go. Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Right.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right.

[Puya]

Okay. You know, very interesting spot here because there's sometimes you end up next to someone who's about to go back to back who you think has a very similar read to these players like you do. And either Taryn and I are going to be on complete opposite pages or on the exact same page, which means I'm about to lose two picks that I would want to see. So really, the strat is, can I pick someone and then get whoever I want on the backswing in between two?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I don't know if it helps, Puya. There aren't many people I want.

[Puya]

Genuinely. It's Slim Pickens. So we're on the same page there also.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah. Okay.

[Puya]

I'm gonna pick someone who, to put it nicely, did not jump off the page, describe themselves as bubbly. I didn't see that.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Oh, God, don't do it. Pick someone else. That's literally the last person I wanted.

[Puya]

Let me tell you why I think Haley is the most normal person they've put on this cast. I do not think that is a bad spot to be in. What I loved about Haley. I believe so. Yeah. What I loved about Haley is Haley recognizing that, hey, these personalities are going to be locked in a hotel room for, like, days. They're going to want to talk, and I'm going to listen. I love that for her. I think she's gonna do just fine. I think socially, she's gonna.

[Melissa Denny]

What they're What?

[Puya]

Am I missing something?

[Melissa Denny]

What? I'm not hearing anything.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh,

[Puya]

I was like, what are you saying?

[Melissa Denny]

I'm like, I literally. I'm like, Like, I'm like, what are we waiting on?

[Aman Adwin]

Can you hear us now?

[Melissa Denny]

Yes. But I was like, what? What?

[Rob Cestrinino]

Listen, Melissa, this is.

[Melissa Denny]

These people are literally. And then I was like, what? Yeah, I thought you were, like, pausing for dramatic effect.

[Rob Cestrinino]

You were looking for people not trying to be on a million shows. I'm not sure she's even trying to be on this show.

[Puya]

Right. Honestly, very passive.

[Melissa Denny]

Like, this sort of thing is like, she's. She's a recruit, but it's like, a lot of the times you can be like, oh, I see why they, like, wanted this person. Because, like, you know, whatever. I. I feel like it's like they're chasing her down. But why? Like, I. She seems nice, but I. You're like, who? You said she didn't jump off the page. So, like, I don't know.

[Aman Adwin]

You know, I. I. I tend to think that, like, when these people are going through casting, they're obviously putting their best foot forward. She did something to enamor somebody who enamored somebody else who enamored somebody else who enamored Allison Grodner. Okay. And so there is something there that we're not seeing. I. Maybe she's gonna be, like, this very, very fun, nonchalant character that, you know, just serves us some great Big Brother gameplay, and we're just all fools for not being able to see it right now.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Maybe she's gonna eat Angela's charcuterie.

[Aman Adwin]

Maybe, like, it remains to be seen. She could be, like, this perfectly great ice queen. I. I'll give it to her. If she is. Right now, though, I just. I needed her to wake it up like, I was. So we were all so excited for, like, this Big Brother bro veal. And she comes on screen just like, hi, I'm Hailey. I'm bubbly, and I'm just, like, so excited to be here. And I'm just like, wake it up. Like, what is going on?

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah, I liked every single tweet I saw where people were saying, go ahead, girl. Give us nothing. When I say there's already a gif of her and bubbly,

[Melissa Denny]

she's like, I'm super fun. I'm super bubbly. It's like, oh, okay. Although I feel like she says that she makes friends easily, and I could. I mean, she probably does. Like, I. Maybe she's not, you know, jumping off the page or being, like, so crazy. Like, what we would normally see in an intro video. But that doesn't mean that she's not going to be, like, very good socially. And I think that, like, maybe, like, if she is this calm and she has this sort of calm vibes, calm Persona, like, maybe that would be good for people because, you know, you're not gonna. There's gonna be a lot of big personalities in the house, and you're gonna have to live with them. So maybe this will actually be better for her socially than otherwise. So who knows?

[Taryn Armstrong]

The reason I was interested in having her on my team is that, yeah, she didn't have energy in the interview. I don't think that matters. I think that, like, she's perfectly capable of being like, a normal human. I'm sure in the house. She's. She seems very athletic. He seems very strong. She is somebody who's. Who talked about being very loyal to her people, to her alliance, that she would just, like, ride hard with them. And. And I think that, like, if she's boring and athletic and loyal, she's gonna go far. Like, she's just gonna go real far. And she might have a chance to win if she. If she happens to be really good at the comps. Like, that alone, I think is just gonna be, like, a very good baseline of. Of gameplay. So I think. I don't think that, like, like, necessarily if. If she is as boring as she seems in the interview, which I don't think she would be, but, like, it's maybe not the most exciting win if she wins in that case. But. But it doesn't necessarily mean that she won't.

[Aman Adwin]

I'm seeing, like, you know, some Casey in there. I'm seeing some Misha Tate in there. You know, where you're just like, oh, I can already see it now. Like, every freaking Saturday. We're just like, Haley has won the power of veto, and we're just like, okay. Like, so I. I can totally see that too. Hopefully she gives us, like, a little bit more to chew on.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Can't give us less.

[Aman Adwin]

But, you know, if that's how she is, like, Puya said, like, she might just be, like, one of the more normal ones, and that's okay. Like, you can take some normalcy on Big Brother. Lord knows we need it.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay, there's Hailey.

[Puya]

There's Hailey. Queen Carvania stood haloed by the morning sun. An army hung on her every word.

[Rob Cestrinino]

My champions, I have sold my chariot on Carvana. Twas a lovely suv, an inexplicably queenly offer. They're even coming to the castle to collect it. Tonight we feast an offer you can feast on.

[Melissa Denny]

Sell your car today on carvana.

[Puya]

Pick up.

[Melissa Denny]

Fees may apply.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right, Taryn wanted Haley. Didn't get her. Now what?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Taryn, listen, there are a lot of people.

[Aman Adwin]

I will.

[Taryn Armstrong]

If I could only show you the visual of my list. Right now, it's number one in green, and then I swear to you, numbers 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 in red, and the rest are ready to go in white. Literally, the next eight picks are gone. So. So what am I doing here? I'm pretty lost. There's not really anybody I feel super strongly about. At point this. This point, I've gone back and forth thinking about the different places I want to go, and I think that I have to kind of go a little bit off. Off the. The beaten path of what I. Where I normally go. I think I'm gonna go.

[Aman Adwin]

What you gonna do?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think I'm gonna go with. Hold on. I need to figure out which name he is.

[Puya]

Chuck.

[Melissa Denny]

Chuck.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Chuck.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh, okay. No, that wasn't that much.

[Puya]

That's why I would have taken if not Haley in this spot. I'll be honest.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I'll trade you.

[Puya]

No, no, I. I'm very happy with my choice.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right. Chuck, he's a supply chain analyst.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah. Listen, you know that competitions matter, and he's a buff dude. He seemed very charismatic. He seemed very friendly. He seems easy to get along with. With, and that will hopefully make up for some of the lack of knowledge that he might have in the show he has been watching for a few years. So. So, you know, I'm hoping he has at least, like, a base level of knowledge. And I just think that he's gonna be able. He's easily, I think, gonna be able to get along with the other guys, but I'm not even, really, like, high on the bros this season because I think that. But with a returning cast and a lot of athletic women, I don't think the bros are going to have the natural advantage that they typically would to, like, get together and be all bro y. However, he weirdly talked about how much he's actually going to focus on the women, and, you know, hopefully that that's, like, good and. And not weird. So. So, yeah, I mean, I think there's some upside here. There's definitely a lot of. Lot of potential downside, but I think there's. There's definitely a world where he could do well, and I'm hoping for that

[Puya]

world now had the biggest red flag answer for me as far as who would you want to model your game after? Because I don't think anyone in eight years has said this man's name out loud. And Chuck stood up and said, I want to model it after Corey brooks from season 18 of Big Brother.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Maybe he loves.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I'm remembering that now.

[Melissa Denny]

Now.

[Puya]

Yeah, maybe.

[Taryn Armstrong]

God, about that.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Not the player.

[Puya]

Yeah, he wants to play like Corey Brooks.

[Rob Cestrinino]

He's gonna showmance.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I mean, listen, if he wants to be the male version of Haley, I'm. I'm okay. You know what I mean? Like, that's. If he's just like a number that gets dragged along and wins some comps in the end, I'm okay with that. Not that that's exactly what Corey was, but, you know, I think if you're modeling your game after him, I think that's probably where you fall.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Liked Chuck. I saw Mari said in the chat that he seemed kind of stiff, but I just think he was bad at doing the thing. Like, he's not a tick tock guy. He's not drew. I don't think that he's necessarily super, you know, camera savvy, but I think people are gonna like Chuck.

[Melissa Denny]

I liked his video. I thought he was very charming. I. I thought it was really, like. Honestly, the. The thing that concerns me is that he's just a casual fan and, like, said stuff like, oh, women don't break alliances, so I want to, like, get with the women. I'm like, that's. Have you ever seen this game? Yeah. But I think, like, overall, like, his personality, I think he seemed very, like, it seemed like he would get along with people and have a good social game. So, like, if he can figure out the strategy part of the game, then I think he could do really well. So this one, it could go either way. But that, like. Which is honestly, like, if he was a fan of the show, I probably would. He would have been like, my first pick because I. I really liked his video, but it just made me nervous with the Corey comment and all that sort of stuff. So that's why I didn't pick him higher than. Than this. But it's, you know, it could go either way.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, he. He seems generally nice. I'm sensing that he is Nigerian with that last name Anyanwu. And he also mentioned that he's first generation. And so I'm getting this sense of like, not to get too sociological here, but I'm. I'm. It was just interesting that for who? Out of all the people that he could have wanted to model his game after, he said Corey Brooks, a fellow Texan. So it's giving like a little bit of like assimilationist vibes, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's just like people are here to sort of like, you know, survive and fit in. And so like that seems to be sort of like the core messaging behind his. His intro package was all about like, no, like I'm here to be here for everybody. I'm here to sort of like just, you know, defy the odds and prove to people that I'm just like you. And so I just wonder, do you lose yourself in a game like this where you, yes. You want to do that to a certain extent, but you also have to be very like self preserving. And so I'm just a little worried about Chuck. But again, he seems very sweet and very kind. I was a little, few things here and there that I'm like, ah, that's a little weird. But we'll see. We'll see.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay, Taryn, the first of two picks for you, you get to round out your draft board here.

[Taryn Armstrong]

It's another tricky one. There are a couple of people I could look at, but I think, man, I just, I just feel like I don't want to pick another guy because I feel like it's going to be a woman's season. So I think I have to go for the person who's been a fan the longest. And that's gonna mean, hold on, make sure I get this name right. The person who's been a fan since she was in her mother's womb. Melody.

[Aman Adwin]

Melody. Melody.

[Rob Cestrinino]

No.

[Aman Adwin]

I'm so upset. Hello, ladies.

[Puya]

Ladies would have been my pick. Terence.

[Aman Adwin]

So good choice here.

[Puya]

I think with everything left, the corporate

[Rob Cestrinino]

game show host Melody Morris is.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, listen, listen. There's a lot of, you know, good karma coming the way of somebody who's named Melany lately, you know, like, I feel like there's been a big swing one way and it's going to come back the other way. So, you know, I, I plus she has the, the name synchronization that, that seasons like to have. So, so, so that's good. I think that, you know, I've, I've heard a little bit more about her job that like, you know, it is essentially that she, she runs this kind of like game show and people can like pay to play the game show and that, you know, I think that that requires a certain level of like, like people drew been on her game show has. Who always drew. You know what? Maybe, Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps I, I feel and hope that she would get along with. With my mystery box and that. That two of them might work together and that might be a good place for her.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah, I feel like I, I couldn't get a good read on her. I felt like she. Her video came off a little bland. I wasn't really sure what to make of her. I. Either way, she could either be, you know, a very strong competitor and like, be in it with the game or like find herself in a very strong alliance or she could just kind of be on the outside and just kind of doing her own thing and then like goes home. I'm not really sure. She also said that she was like, sensitive and then she. I did like that she said she didn't just say the classic like, I'm going to be a hero answer. Like, you know, some people who maybe are her, like her archetype type. She said that, like it just depended on like, how the game was, like, playing that she's willing to be a villain. And I always appreciate when someone's like, yeah, I'm willing to be a villain if it. If I have to. So, yeah, I, she was a maybe for me, but I just can't really get a good read on her, so I don't really know.

[Aman Adwin]

Go ahead.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah, I told Taryn yesterday that I thought for somebody who's a professional host, I did think that she was also pretty flat in her intro package.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, I, I'm kind of like, honestly, the people who are flat, I'm kind of almost like there's. There's more that I don't know about them because I haven't been able to see them on because they weren't able to be on in the interviews. And, and the people that were on, I feel like I'm seeing more of their personality and so I have more knowledge about them. So these people that I. There's people that I actively don't feel good about and there's people that I don't know as much about because I was able to see as much. And that's where I'm at with Melody.

[Rob Cestrinino]

She did say that she was very emotional sensitive.

[Taryn Armstrong]

That is a concern. That is a concern that I also forgot that I. But now remember and hopefully that's not the case.

[Aman Adwin]

But she was aware of that though, and that's. That's great to be, to be self aware. I mean. And she also said that she sort of identifies herself with Nicole Franzel, who is also a sensitive person. So I'm like, it's.

[Taryn Armstrong]

It's being explained to me in the chat that I got Chuck, whose favorite player is Corey, and Melody, whose favorite player is Nicole.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Puya]

Which.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Hey, look.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Hey.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Did pretty well.

[Aman Adwin]

But she said. She said her mother sees her as the female version of Derek. So, I mean, you know.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Wow.

[Aman Adwin]

Hey, so.

[Puya]

We're assuming Derek Lavasser in that situation, right?

[Aman Adwin]

Yes. Okay.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Oh, I assumed X. I mean, he's good too.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, that's my boo thing. Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right. Melody Morris, Melody, host of what's that Cost?

[Aman Adwin]

Melody. Melody. Melody.

[Puya]

All right, so I get to round out my team here with my final pick. And I pondered between three choices, one of which, I'll be very honest, you'll find out when they get picked. There was only one reason why I considered them. I'm not picking them. The other just feels like maybe you want to root for the person. It'd be fun to have on your team.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Team.

[Puya]

But I'm gonna go with someone who I loki, could see being a bit of a sleeper pick here. The one thing I don't like about her chances, I will explain, but also, I get to pick her by saying, mallory, I'm gonna put Mallory on my team. Mallory's saying that I want to hide how. How smart I am. Mallory, you look like the smartest person on this cast. Yeah, that's not gonna work out. That being said, I think Mallory is a sneaky, multifaceted threat for this game. Mallerie is athletic. Mallory looks to be very social. This was brought to my attention yesterday that people found her Instagram and she's out there partying. She's chilling with people. She's having a good ass time. This is a rocket scientist who's social and jacked. Be threatened. Be very threatened. I'm so here for Mallory. Don't know how she's gonna do, but I'm excited for the pick.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah, it's sort of interesting. If you like a very physically fit woman, but you wear glasses, do they treat you as a nerd or a comp beast? Interesting social experiment that we're gonna have.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, it's kind of giving a little bit of, like, how they tried to super gamify Alex Willette during bbott. We're like, yeah, she's, like, more strategic than her sister. But, like, like, she was still very sociable. Still very, like, you know, she could talk to anybody in that house. And so I kind of get the same kind of vibe from Mallory. Like, it didn't really, like, I Like, what she had to say about, like, how, like, I want you to feel like you're playing a good game, but sorry about it, I'm playing a better one. Like, that was very, like, okay, work, sis. Like, that was very tongue in cheek. Very. Just. It gave, like, a sense of awareness of, like, how she knows how she needs to enter and, like, walk in the space of Big Brother. So, yeah, I'm. I'm excited for Mallory. I'm excited to see what she's got going on. I know a lot of people are already comparing her to is she who Must not be named from last season just because of the hair and the glasses, but I'm not getting that vibe. I'm really.

[Melissa Denny]

No, I'm so confused because I did not see her Instagram and now I'm just looking at it now, and I'm like, right, this is a completely different person entirely. Like, not a single pic with glasses to be found throughout the whole thing. A lot of bikini pics, lot of, like, you know, the Instagram pose. Going out with her girlfriends, doing this, that and everything. I was not expecting this whatsoever. And now I'm kind of like, oh, okay. So, like, maybe she's, like, playing casting where she's got, like, the glasses and she's, I'm a rocket scientist, whatever, whenever, Aerospace engineer here. And it's like, I don't. This is crazy. I'm like, now, if I had seen her Instagram before this, I probably would have, like, had her as, like, one of my top picks, because this is, like. I feel like this show is, like, a completely different side of her that. Because I. My whole thing was like, I don't know if she's gonna be able to, like, fit in with everybody. Like, she just seems like. She said she makes friends type of person.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah. But, you know.

[Melissa Denny]

You know, I don't know. It's like she seems like a different type, like, archetype, whatever, than everybody else. And so I was kind of like. Like, I don't know. Like, I can't really see them vibing. Now I'm looking at her Instagram, I'm like, oh, yeah, she could totally hang out. So. Wow. Okay. The one thing I will say is that she did say that she. She can have a temper, which, like, that's a little. Like, I. I could see her getting into fights and stuff, and like, that, like, makes me a little nervous. I don't know. So. Wow. Okay. Now I'm, like, all discombobulated, and I feel like I would pick her. So she's a good pick. I think.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I think this is the dirtiest production has ever done anybody.

[Melissa Denny]

Absolutely.

[Taryn Armstrong]

This is with the way she has been made up. Yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

Style, the styling, the glasses, everything.

[Taryn Armstrong]

And my concern would be if she goes into the house like looking like this. That first impression. Yeah, the first impression.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Maybe it's gonna be like a. She's all that when she takes her glasses off.

[Melissa Denny]

Take off the glasses. Take down the ponytail.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah. Listen, she can't be a rocket scientist and not have glasses. Okay. People wouldn't get it.

[Melissa Denny]

They won't understand.

[Rob Cestrinino]

They won't understand. Puya.

[Melissa Denny]

Maybe you gotta steal talking.

[Puya]

I think.

[Melissa Denny]

Check out her Instagram, I think.

[Puya]

And I. And I genuinely feel like I would have forgotten about her because I. I had this stupid melody. The thing in my head that I wanted to say the name like that for the draft. And we figured it out. It worked out.

[Aman Adwin]

So.

[Puya]

Yeah. No, I'm very happy.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Valerie, I just want to say I totally f with your vibe.

[Taryn Armstrong]

This is what I get. This is what I get just for picking somebody because they said they were a fan from the womb. And she said she was a fan since she was born. I thought that would be funny.

[Puya]

My favorite thing is Taryn gets the Love island references we're dropping tonight. Like he fully knows what he knows. Balls it. Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

He has elite ball knowledge.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah. I'm still waiting for my kisses, by the way.

[Aman Adwin]

I forgot what it feels.

[Rob Cestrinino]

I forgot what it feels like.

[Aman Adwin]

Let me pull you for a chat. Tell me about them. Rocket science.

[Puya]

Wait.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Amon is actually so good at it. It's a smoothie.

[Aman Adwin]

Call it a smoothie. Okay.

[Puya]

Yeah. Put this in a time capsule because it really will date where we were

[Aman Adwin]

when this draft went down.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

It's the summer of Corbin. I can't take it.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. All right. It is a monster.

[Aman Adwin]

Damn. Okay, Okay. I mean, there's obviously like a really, really like obvious pick here. And I was talking with my diary room co host post and he told me to pick this person because, you know, there's a lot of upside.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Could we just reset? Who's available now? We have 12 picks off the board. There are five picks left and they are. Let me that we have Angela,

[Aman Adwin]

we

[Rob Cestrinino]

have Rome, Taylor, Yash. And who am I missing?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Is that. Is that fine?

[Aman Adwin]

Okay. Okay. I lied. I'm still the same old Amon.

[Taryn Armstrong]

How long did that last? Can we. Can somebody time stamp this?

[Aman Adwin]

I made it a minute, an hour and 35. Okay. Jesus.

[Puya]

Why is this a hard pick? I'm on. What are you what are you struggling?

[Aman Adwin]

Let us know your inner thoughts, because I. I. A piece of me does want to go for Angela. I was. I was a hard no against Angela this morning, and then Matt Liguori was like, listen, like, she's obvious. She's got a little bit of plot armor to her. She'd be an easy drag to the end if she is up to her similar antics. So, like, that puts her above a lot of people in the cast. Right? And I agree with that. But she's just also just so messy, and I feel like her second time coming around. I don't necessarily know if Angela's here to win. I. I don't know if she's just here to, like, play games and just be Angela. So I'm just like. And I would like to win the draft. I really would like to win, guys. And I just don't know if Angela's gonna win BB28. But the alternatives here aren't super enticing either. So. Give me angela. Excuse me?

[Rob Cestrinino]

Give me.

[Aman Adwin]

Look, I mean, we know the story. You know the story. There really isn't much more for me to say here. This is a crazy pick. Angela is. Is crazy. Okay. But we're gonna have so much fun with her. I don't foresee her really going anywhere early. I. I don't think she's gonna win, but it'll be fun rooting for her, and I'm just happy that she's had a chance to come back. Like, we don't really see a lot of older people on the show to begin with, and for her to be an older returnee, that's even more unheard of. So I'm just happy that this woman is, like, living her dreams again, and it's just there to have fun. And I just can't wait to see how the rest of the house guests are gonna react to her being in the house. And. And, yeah, so I'm. I'm excited for her. And it.

[Puya]

It.

[Aman Adwin]

It'll be a fun summer. It really will be.

[Melissa Denny]

I'm excited to see Angela again. Oh, go ahead.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I. I very nearly picked Angela as well. I thought about it a lot. I. I do think that she has potential. I mean, we're living in a world where it's a mixed cast, and the returnees, quote, unquote, weren't 1, 2, and 3, 3. Which, historically, in the draft, anytime we've had something like this, the. And it's not been a mystery box. The returnees have almost needed separate categories because we would obviously just pick all of them. And there's a reason for that. They have cachet, they have status going into a house, they have experience. And Angela has those things. I think there are a lot of people in that house that like her a lot from the show show. And I think that's great. And I think there's absolutely a world where she is and, and because she wasn't, I will say this, she was not, I think strategically a bad player in the game. I think that she just like, you know, kind of. She got in her own way a lot of the time. Like if she was able to accurately read who was loyal to her and what was happening at various points, points, I think she could have directed people in the right ways and herself in the right ways. The problem was that she thought people were low budget acting. And she, you know, came to these conclusions of like, like, you know, for instance, when she was working with Tucker, he did need to go. Did she need to do it at that time? Did she need to like, take credit for it in the way she did? No, but like, you know, I do think she has a strategic head on her shoulders and with some experience and with some social capital coming in, I really do think that she's got some, some, some options here. Two things I'm concerned about end game competitions are the one thing, if she is in the end game with a chance to win, I'm concerned that she won't be able to win those endgame comps. And the second thing is she does historically get in her own way quite a lot. And I'd be concerned that she's going to, to like immediately turn on the other quote unquote returnees because that's the, the right thing to do, but maybe not at the right time. And you know, that things might get a little hectic. And so, you know, I think all of that will be fun. And I actually think Angela is a great choice as a returning player, primarily because she's not somebody that's just gonna like win comps and run the table and she's gonna bring a lot of entertainment.

[Aman Adwin]

I'm sorry, Taryn. Melissa is being attacked just like there's

[Melissa Denny]

like a, like a behind me that the sun is like completely shining through and I can't. I just trying to put up a hand. Sorry, guys. Yeah, I just think I'm doing karate.

[Aman Adwin]

She's sending Morse code.

[Melissa Denny]

Sorry, guys.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay, but we're blessed. We're going to watch Angela play Big Brother again. She gave us so much. And for the, for the visitors that

[Melissa Denny]

Came to visit me last night.

[Rob Cestrinino]

You're performing for the Visitor? For the Visitors. Well, whatever. You know what, you know, we're doing.

[Melissa Denny]

I thought it was, like, a remake mix.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah. I don't have all The Big Brother 26 sound clips downloaded right now, but it's gonna be great.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah, I, like, I don't think she'll win. I mean, who knows? You never know. Like, Rachel came back and she won, and. And she did so well the next season. Like, I just. You never know what someone is going to do with that experience and with hindsight and with, like, you know, knowing now what maybe they could have done differently. I'm excited to see what she has to bring for us. So.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah,

[Rob Cestrinino]

here, let me try. Let me try another one. Let me see if this works.

[Melissa Denny]

And if you guys have a pot, I'm gonna have a pot, too.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right, let's go to Melissa.

[Melissa Denny]

My turn. Okay. So this person, I'm very surprised is still here, so I think there might be something that I'm missing, and so maybe you guys can let me know, but I'm going to pick Camille. Is that how you say his name?

[Aman Adwin]

I think so, yes.

[Melissa Denny]

I feel like I'm kind of surprised he's still on the board, because I

[Rob Cestrinino]

was going to get him.

[Melissa Denny]

Did you think? I. What is wrong? I feel like he is a fan of the show. He seemed like a nice enough guy. He, like, he talked about Dan's funeral and, like, watching him for years, and then he said that he would want to emulate, like, Cody and a little bit of Derek, and I feel like that's like, a good answer. And I. I don't. I guess I don't know what I'm. Did I miss something that got released or something? Like, do we not like him? I. I honestly don't know. And so I'm kind of confused.

[Taryn Armstrong]

He was. He was my other dude pick, but I decided not to pick a dude.

[Melissa Denny]

Okay. Because I. I feel like. I mean, look, everybody's saying, oh, he's a UFC fighter. Like, unless there's something that's come out, like, I don't know, I'm just gonna, like, see what happens. He's athletic. His videos seem fine. I think he kind of looks like, like, what Mac from Always Sunny in Philadelphia would, like, want to look like? And I said that to my husband, and I said that to Dennis, and Dennis was like, I don't see it at all. And I was like, are you sure? Like, like, it's like, get the pose like this with the beard and that slick back hair. Like, I don't know. That's what I figured. Like Matt, to be fair, Mac did

[Taryn Armstrong]

look like him at one point. He made it happen.

[Melissa Denny]

But that's the thing is he was like, I don't see it at all. He doesn't look anything like him to me. And I was like, okay, well, fine.

[Puya]

But see, I think.

[Melissa Denny]

Do we know. Everybody's saying he's MAGA and that he's like, bigoted, but I haven't heard anything. Do we know something?

[Rob Cestrinino]

I know.

[Melissa Denny]

If we know something, we know something.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Rob Cestrinino]

I don't know anything. I think that that is it. From what I. I think it's probably just supposition. I don't think that there is anything that. That com. Not that I've seen.

[Puya]

I just. Yeah, sir. I just think that despite saying he wants to carry the flames of the likes of Cody and Derek, I don't see it for this guy. I just don't see him being able to pull that off. I think similar to what we said about Mallory wanting to hide being smart, I don't think he's gonna hide that he's physical. The man's ears give away that he's a fighter. I think no matter how he social he is, he's always going to be seen as a comp threat first. He's gonna see being seen as a physical guy first, and I think that's gonna work against him. And I just don't know. We've talked a little bit about how we feel it's going to be with the. With some of the men this season. I don't see Kamu in the end game. I just don't see that happening. Like, when I start to picture the final two champions chairs, I don't see him sitting there. That's kind of where I was in this last round.

[Rob Cestrinino]

I thought that I was gonna have the choice to pick a bro here at the end, and I would have picked Kamu. Of the three bros, I thought that he seemed like. That he seemed like. He seems pretty calm to me, and I thought that he had a chance to maybe be. Because he's. He's older too, right?

[Aman Adwin]

He's like in his 30s.

[Taryn Armstrong]

30s.

[Rob Cestrinino]

So I kind of like the. The experience.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, I. I mean, obviously, you know, he's probably the most physically fit person that's on the cast. And when it comes to those competitions, that's always going to be good. The thing, like, the reservation for me was more so, like, it's Always a bit of a red flag when a guy has to go out of his way to say, people think that I'm a mean guy, but I'm actually really, really a nice guy. I'm like, okay, that. That scares me a little bit. And then on top of that, there is the. There really, like, he. He feel. It seems like he's really about, like, going forward and wanting to. To. To win and take all the comps. And he's idolizing the Hitman, which, of course, is not a bad thing, you know, on its own to want to be like the Hitman, but it's just kind of like reinforcing in my mind that you're going to be someone that is extremely aggressive in the game. And it, you know, I. I just see a coup against him rather early if he, you know, has his, you know.

[Rob Cestrinino]

But I also thought that he said in his interview that he said, you know, he. He fights for a living, and so he doesn't want to fight here, brother.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, but you don't turn that off. Do you really turn that off?

[Taryn Armstrong]

I don't. I don't think a fighter is necessarily inclined to actually physically fight people in any capacity.

[Aman Adwin]

Well, no, I don't mean that in that sense, but like, that. That, like, sort of, like, cutthroat energy, I think that that's, like, kind of hard to turn off. I think if you're a competitive person, you're a competitive person, you know? And so I'm just like, I do

[Taryn Armstrong]

think this is a competitive cat cast.

[Aman Adwin]

And.

[Taryn Armstrong]

And really, I think that he's the kind of player I'd be. I. Again, I. I thought about picking him, and I think I'd be more inclined to pick him on a cast with a different makeup. I just really. I think that he's somebody who, like, if I was anticipating a cool kid club, I think he would fit in with them. I think he would be potentially have a good head on his shoulders, and he'd fit in well and he'd win competitions. I'm concerned that in a cast with. With veteran players who I think are going to be on the lookout for threats, physical threats, and perhaps not be in the, like, young dude or youngish dude demographic of, you know. You know, if he can fit in with the vets, I think that's great. But. But it's not the. The makeup I would like for him. And so that's why Taran.

[Rob Cestrinino]

How about when he proposes to D on the finale? Okay.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Is he D's type? I genuinely was thinking about It. And I don't know if it is.

[Aman Adwin]

I was kind of thinking him and Melody. Melody. No, not Melody. Not Melody.

[Puya]

Lyric.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay, Lyric. But no, I. He's also a MMA coach. I'm not sure if he's retired from. I think, as a coach. Also, I think that he probably has to have. Have like, a little bit more of, like. I just don't think he's a total maniac.

[Melissa Denny]

Although I think it was funny that he was like, I don't want to tell people that my parents own the gym because they'll think I'm super rich. And I was like, is that something people would.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, that was a little questionable. Yeah, I was like.

[Melissa Denny]

I was like, okay,

[Taryn Armstrong]

it does. It does. It does give that. Like, he uses, like. Like, yeah, my folks own the place, right? Yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

Like, yeah, why would we care? But I do want to clarify my comments on Mac from Soy Philadelphia. I was not talking about, like, the actor or what he looks like or that this guy's more attractive than him. I was saying that Mac would want to, like, have the tattoos and be a fighter and all that. That's what I was saying.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I got that.

[Melissa Denny]

Okay. Thank you.

[Puya]

He seemed kind of soft spoken, which I did, like, so I could see him. Like, I think the social thing makes sense. I just think for me, it's going to be hard for anything he does to not be looked at from a. He's a challenge beast. Physical threat. More. First, I would like to use this moment to kind of talk about something Taryn touched on very early in this podcast and talk about the live streaming of it all. How and why did so many people say live streaming this season instead of live feeds?

[Taryn Armstrong]

What changes changed? I think, genuinely, because that is. That is the. The new age terminology is live streaming. And so if you are new to the concept of live feeds, you probably think, oh, they live stream. This show does live streams. And that's why I think that, like, if somebody's saying, hey, I'm a big fan, but they call it live streams, despite the fact that that on every single episode they say live feeds, like, that's maybe a giveaway. And. And I want to make this clear too, like. Like, I don't think any of us on this podcast care whether you're a super fan or not. Like, it just in terms of. At least for me, in terms of drafting or how well somebody will do, being a fan on the. Of the show is a significant indicator that you're going to do better. Better. And I personally have fallen victim to people Derek X, who have claimed to be big fans and lied about it and then find out that, you know, it wasn't the case. It's something that people do and it's, you know, it's an amount of information that we're trying to gather. It's not like a, a witch hunt or anything.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah. Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right. So it comes down to me, the final pick of the draft, pick number 15. And this is an interesting scenario. I really did think I was going to get to pick pick which bro I wanted, but that there is a wild card that I did not expect to have fall to me here at pick number 15. That is Taylor. There is also Yash, who was the late AD to the cast. And then there is Rome. I think that Rome might not be a total disaster, but I did tell the audience yesterday that they were to get Rome in the draft, and I don't want to go back on my promise and so enjoy. I, I, I'm surprised that people are so down on Yash as a player. I get it that he seems kind of bro y, but he also seems pretty smart. He maybe doesn't know the show super well, but I, I feel like that he could be okay. But I think I'm going to go with the bigger wild card, which is, is Taylor, who I just, I'm, I'm, I didn't come into this draft feeling like I have to have Taylor, but I am extremely surprised that she fell to me at pick number 15.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Me too. Yeah.

[Puya]

Yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

So I'll say I didn't pick her. I didn't pick her because I just didn't. Couldn't get a read on her. Her answers were so generic. Like, they asked her, like, three words to describe herself, and she said all.

[Aman Adwin]

All.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Melissa Denny]

And then she, they said, she said what, what would give you, like, the, I forgot the question, but it's something about, like, why will you do good on Big Brother? And she said, I am that girl.

[Rob Cestrinino]

She's that girl.

[Melissa Denny]

Those things don't mean anything to me. I get it. But, like, I just, I didn't know what she, I don't know. I did not know what she was about. And then she talked about her, like, plan about the team, like, the three teams. I didn't know what she was saying. And she talked about bringing love to the show and that she doesn't know how to handle conflict, but she's reading a book on it, and it just all, it all read to me as, like, like, I don't know, someone who's not going to do so well. But I hope I'm wrong. I don't know. But it just. That's why I didn't pick her. Just because I could not figure it out.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah. I. I mean, I understood what she meant by, like, I'm that girl. Like, I get it. Yes. Talk your stuff, honey. I didn't quite understand her.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Three big V blowout.

[Rob Cestrinino]

The big B blowout.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

Is that what it was called? Because she said it was like, one part was like, there was like captains and there was a captain for floaters.

[Taryn Armstrong]

You just don't get it. It's a pretty impressive sounding strategy. The big B blowout. You have three teams. Teams. One of them is a team of floaters. You have a captain for each team. So you have a captain of the floaters and then you have two captains of two other teams and three of you get together and coordinate the three teams.

[Puya]

Oh, so this is how it reads to me.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Puya]

Three alliances. She works with one person from each other alliance and then they go to the final three. That could be what it is. I didn't get it initially either. I still am kind of making it up as I go along with her, but I like that her mind is thinking of stuff like that. I think that is absolutely a great thing to have here. So. So especially again, Rob, with the. With the last pick of the draft, I don't. I think you could have done so much.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Who knows? Like, maybe, okay, maybe she's not that girl and she goes out early, but there's certainly a world where she's like, she's very fun, she's likable, she sticks around. And guess what? She's at the final three and she. She will lucks into the final hoh. They bring her to the end. They don't think that she's gonna win. I think that there's a path for her.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Listen, when the brigade formed, we all laughed. When the bomb squad formed, we all laughed. When the pretty boys came together, we really laughed. And so when the big B blowout dominates this season.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Taylor will be the one laughing.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes.

[Aman Adwin]

I mean, it would be iconic to have two Taylor winners. That'd be. That'd be amazing. Yeah. I'm here to give the girl a chance. I'm not super high on her because it. It does. Like Melissa was kind of saying, it does kind of feel like she. Are you. Do you know what's going on here? Because she. I think she said in her interview like that she used to watch as a little girl and Then she fell off because of a breakup and then stopped watching.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yeah, no, the breakup got her back into it.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah, the breakup got her back into it. But she said it. Think she could binge for six months. So I don't know if that means she, like, still watched or if it was just six months.

[Puya]

It was a hot six months.

[Rob Cestrinino]

To binge a season. That's slow season.

[Melissa Denny]

Or I don't know if it was one season or two.

[Aman Adwin]

Breakup.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay, okay, listen. We'll say worst comes words. Say, bless her heart.

[Taryn Armstrong]

That's it.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right, let's talk about the other two people that didn't get picked.

[Puya]

Let's.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Let's start with. Yeah, Yash. Because I think that there is something to Yash.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah.

[Puya]

Yash would have been on my team on the basis that he is my brown brother. That is really all that was gonna happen had I not picked Mallory. The thing with Yash, I just think that Yash has no idea what he signed up for. I think that while there are. I think he's athletic. I think he is a personality. I think he's gonna be chatty. I could see him getting along with people.

[Aman Adwin]

People.

[Puya]

There's just something about the way he spoke about things that rubbed me the wrong way. And I was like, I'd nominate you.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah.

[Puya]

I'd put you up on the block. Easy. I personally didn't love the hot take of get rid of the booth comps. What are we doing? Don't have chance in this at all. I was like, all right, not happy with that either. And also, I feel like, you know, not to reheat Terrence Nachos, but when you say. Say I could tell you my strategy, but I'm not. That's a secret. That's a pet peeve of mine. Like you, I am not your opposition. You can tell me.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I actually thought his hot take of wanting to get rid of booth comps was the thing I liked the most about his preseason interview because it showed an awareness.

[Melissa Denny]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Of the advantage that he has outside of booth com comps. And I. You know, to be fair to him, I think it was to some degree. I hope. I pray. Tongue and cheek. So, you know, quite. Quite frankly, if I went on the show, I would. I would absolutely be like, listen, guys, I know I want equitable comps, but give me one more. Give me one more season without him, because I'm. I'm feeling this. I argue against my own interests when it comes to the competitions. So. So, yeah, I mean, I think that that's good. I just. My issue with Yash is that he. If I had to pick a person who's the most likely to have asked chat GPT how to play the game, I think Yash is the answer. He says he's been, like, binging five hours a day. He clearly strikes me as somebody that's like, oh, this is an opportunity that came up. Let me. Me try to, like, deep dive. Financial analyst Taylor Hale did the same thing and won the game. So, you know, I think that. I absolutely don't think that this is, like, a terrible thing, but especially on a cast again with some vets, I think that's where this method is really gonna, unfortunately, fall flat, because he does not know the history of these people in the way that a lot of other people would Will. He doesn't know, like, he also strikes me as the person who is the most likely to try to be like, hey, we got to get these guys out.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Right?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Oh, you know what I mean?

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Puya]

Someone said zay upside, which is so funny to me because that man left first. So, like, I don't know what that means.

[Melissa Denny]

Is that upside?

[Taryn Armstrong]

Okay.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right. And then let's talk about Rome.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh, God.

[Taryn Armstrong]

God.

[Aman Adwin]

If.

[Puya]

If we must.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah, yeah.

[Aman Adwin]

I'm not gonna call this name. His name. His name is Jack.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Jack.

[Aman Adwin]

His name is Jack. That's his given name.

[Melissa Denny]

He says he's very competitive, and he also says he has a loud mouth and he won't back down. And he said that a few times, and that made me a little nervous. He also said that a lot of people see him as the villain, and the whole, obviously, the whole betas and submissives thing was, like, a weird thing that

[Rob Cestrinino]

he said. Those are the people he's gonna work with.

[Melissa Denny]

I know, but it just seemed odd to call them that.

[Taryn Armstrong]

That was jarring.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes.

[Puya]

With a straight face.

[Melissa Denny]

The fact that he kept saying, like, I'm a loudmouth, and I'm not gonna back down. Like, over and over. Like, it felt. It made me think, like, oh, so you. You're, like, gonna intentionally create problems. I don't know if that's true, but that. That seemed a little odd to mention that a few times and to talk about how, like, you're. He's so competitive, he can't turn it up off. I. It just. I. I just don't know. So it could go either way. We could end up, like, loving him. I don't know. But it just seemed strange enough that I didn't want to pick him.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Listen, as a beta submissive, I love it when Alpha men approach me and go, hey, beta submissive. I'm one of you. I like trading cards. We get along, right? And I go, oh, my God. God, thank you for dating to speak to me. I, too, think about trading cards sometimes. We are fellow nerds.

[Puya]

He is a nerd the way Logan Paul is a nerd. You know what I mean? Like, he's like. He opened four Pokemon packs, and I was like, I actually like this stuff. It's kind of fun. Like, that's really. That's not enough for me. I just. I don't see it for him whatsoever. Him talking about how he's going to you befriend people and then take him to a corner down the line and be like, actually, my name is Jack, so only you can call me that. So that's how you know we're good friends. Like, Bronte, step aside. The mathematician thing is gone. We now have the Jack name reveal that's gonna come this season, which wild.

[Rob Cestrinino]

I thought his friends call him Rome, though.

[Puya]

His friends call him Rome, but that's what he's. It's the inverse.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Puya]

No, his mother calls him Sweet Jack. How dare you? He's Taren. Yeah, it's okay. It's fine. Well, I think we'll be. Yeah. He also said he sees himself as a tucker, and Tucker was unapologetic. And Tucker said how he felt and made the decisions and stood firm in them 10 toes.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah.

[Taryn Armstrong]

If he utters the word submissives in that house, it's over for him.

[Puya]

It's curtains. Yeah. It's so done.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Look, somebody has to get reamed out by Angela. He's the number one contender.

[Puya]

Listen, we have the opportunity to remake history with Angela winning the first hoh and putting this man on the blocks.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I'm gonna be on an update with Kirsten, and I'm gonna be watching without audio. Angela going, yeah, hey, Saturday morning is the first update.

[Rob Cestrinino]

That's the time that it happens.

[Aman Adwin]

Yep. Yeah. You know this guy, man, I kept seeing a lot of people on Twitter talking about Barrett and saying, like, Barrett seems like the really woke straight guy to be like, unfortunately, I'm straight. And with Rome, it seems like he's the type to be like, yeah, bro, I love to lift, but, like, I also like digging in them Pokemon cards, bro. Like, this is my sh. Like, I'm just like, I can't. I can't. Like, Rome was not built in a day, and I need for this. I. I need. I just need for him to go. I just can't I can't deal with it. I really can't.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I would love for it to all be an act. I really hope we can hope for.

[Aman Adwin]

I really hope that it is.

[Rob Cestrinino]

He read the Dan Geesling book, right.

[Taryn Armstrong]

It's. It's so bad that that genuinely is the best we can hope for. All right.

[Aman Adwin]

You know, and he could surprise us. He could. There's a lot of people again, they put on for these cameras in these first couple weeks. We'll see.

[Rob Cestrinino]

All right.

[Puya]

He's blistered through three seasons of Big Brother. We now know one is BB 26. Are the other two 27 and 25. Did he not make it past that? I don't know, but I'm curious to see how that plays out for him. Did not expect. I will say did not expect to have smoke with a pickleball coach. Mind you, that does not sound like a job that would have. Have someone calling you a Beta, but here we are. Shout out to my Betas.

[Melissa Denny]

Crazy.

[Aman Adwin]

Like, where. Where did that come from? That is crazy.

[Puya]

It was a blind side. It really was.

[Rob Cestrinino]

And they weren't like, hey, do you want to take that again? Like, no, leave it in.

[Melissa Denny]

They're like, you want to call them something else?

[Aman Adwin]

No. Cut, Print. Moving on.

[Puya]

Yeah, they made the right call keeping it in there because it really was.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Was a surprise. All right, let's go over what everybody came away with. We've got Taryn, who came away with the mystery box, a mystery dvd, and then Chuck and Melody. Then. Yes.

[Taryn Armstrong]

I feel. I feel a little top heavy, but, you know, we'll manage.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. Then here comes Puya. And Puya walks away with Barrett and Haley and Mallory.

[Puya]

Yeah, I think. I think it worked out. I really do. Taryn, thank you for acknowledging my hand up. I really do appreciate it, letting you know.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Go getters.

[Aman Adwin]

Get.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Get the worm.

[Puya]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Game of Life game. Okay. And then Amman walks away with Jason and Drew and Angela.

[Aman Adwin]

Yeah, I'm.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Wow.

[Aman Adwin]

Yes.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Taryn Armstrong]

Yes.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh, my God.

[Melissa Denny]

Sorry. He's not wearing a shirt and he's eating pizza. So much bigger.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay, guess who mommy drafted. It was Ashley. Yes. Latrice.

[Melissa Denny]

And do you like the microphone? He picked up the microphone himself with

[Taryn Armstrong]

a microphone in his hand. Yeah, yeah.

[Rob Cestrinino]

You know, I got Angela's.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh, my gosh.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Aman Adwin]

Callin approved.

[Rob Cestrinino]

I ended up with Lyric, Rick, Devins, and Taylor.

[Aman Adwin]

You know, I think kind of all have a really good shot. I do. I think that there's something for everybody on everybody's team.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yep.

[Puya]

So that sounds like someone that's trying to convince themselves they got a great team. I'm on. Are you okay with your team? Are you convinced? 10.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yeah. In the chat.

[Taryn Armstrong]

In the chat.

[Rob Cestrinino]

You've got Rome and Yash.

[Aman Adwin]

Oh, I meant. I meant my. That point that I was talking about was just about our teams, not the chats. The chat is pretty screwed.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Aman Adwin]

Got to be cooked.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes, I be cooked. All right. There you go. All right, Melissa, we'll be back with you tomorrow night. Night.

[Melissa Denny]

Yes. Premiere.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Yes. All right. Anything else coming up?

[Melissa Denny]

Just following me on social media. It's Melissa with three A's.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay.

[Melissa Denny]

But that's it. All right.

[Rob Cestrinino]

And then Aman, what about for you?

[Aman Adwin]

I am just, you know, here this summer for Big Brother 28. You can follow me everywhere. I'm on Adwin. You can also check out. Check out me and Matt over at the Diary Room where we've been trying to find the best big brother player of all time. Whittling all these players down. We're now in round two. Everyone that's on this show right now has been on the show. So check us out over there. Diary Room podcast.

[Rob Cestrinino]

Okay. All right, Puya, how about for you,

[Puya]

big brother Ryan's trader dies because traders died down for a little bit. But we'll be back with a lot of traders this summer. Summer, Annabelle is joining me to talk and catch up on all things 90 Day Fiance this week. So make sure you all tune into that. I got Liana to carry the new tradition this week with the pal where I showed her photos of everybody and made her guess their names. She got one right. I don't know how she got one right. Find out which one it was on the PAL this week. And of course, I'll be doing really

[Taryn Armstrong]

funny if it was Rome.

[Puya]

Okay, it was not. Not. It makes sense once you know which one. But I'll tell the the four of you offline here and then I'm doing a lot of content on stream this summer, so come through Twitch tv. Pui, I'm gonna be there as well. But otherwise, Friday mornings starting next week, you know where to find me. I'll be there with Taran. Whether it's lack of sleep, whether there's a Red Bull there, there's a coffee there. We'll be ready to go and we'll have a good time with it.

[Rob Cestrinino]

And then, God, Taryn, for you, it's one more sleep.

[Taryn Armstrong]

One more sleep and then no more sleep is how it's gonna go. Yeah, check out. Listen, I'll be here all summer if you want to see me on Sincere's neck constantly. Find my Love Island Patreon content on my Patreon. I'll also be streaming on Patreon all summer as well, so find it over there, okay?

[Rob Cestrinino]

This was so fun to be back with everybody, especially you two here in the chat because you always make it so fun. We love reading what you have to say all through the show. And of course that goes for your comments after as well. Can't wait to be back with you tomorrow night for the kickoff of BB28 with the podcast to follow. Take care everybody. Have a good one. Bye.

[Melissa Denny]

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