Christian Hubicki Reacts to the BB28 News

Summary

Podcast Summary: RHAP – We Know Big Brother

Episode: Christian Hubicki Reacts to the BB28 News

Date: July 10, 2026
Host(s): Rob Cesternino, Taran Armstrong
Guest: Dr. Christian Hubicki

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Episode Overview

This episode features Survivor alum Dr. Christian Hubicki as he joins Rob Cesternino and Taran Armstrong to react to the Big Brother 28 premiere. The focus is on Christian’s insights and humorous takes regarding his friend, Survivor and now Big Brother contestant Rick Devens, and his prospects in the house. The discussion traverses strategies, Survivor–Big Brother crossovers, fan perceptions, memorable Survivor moments, possibilities for gameplay, Big Brother mechanics, and listener questions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Christian Hubicki’s Big Brother Journey & Rick Devens’ Crossover

• Christian’s History with Big Brother: Christian admits minimal Big Brother exposure—he watched a bit around BB19, mostly near the end due to his Survivor casting at the time.

  “About 9ish years ago. I have seen a Big Brother. I believe it was BB I guess. BB 19 oh.” —Christian, [03:32]

• Rick Devens in the BB House—Christian’s Reaction: Christian is excited and amused to see his friend in a new, unpredictable reality show environment.

  “I’m elated. You see, I got to watch an episode of Big Brother. So one. How could I be happy and, you know, really intellectually stimulated?” —Christian, [02:55]

• Surprise & Preparation: Christian only “had an inkling” that Rick might go on BB, referencing a dream, but shared Big Brother strategy streams (minus ads) with Devens as a joke.

  “My strategy was to watch Corey Wurttenberger’s streams on how to play Big Brother. And record them and send them to Rick as podcast.” —Christian, [05:01]

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2. Analyzing Rick Devens’ Game Prospects

• Rick’s Strengths and Tendencies: Rick is labeled as a “man of action,” known for finding fun and performing under pressure, but the Big Brother house may require unexpected patience.

  “He just seemed like there’s a volcano. I can see the emotions watching over his face... He always has a way to find the fun in the situations.” —Christian, [05:44]

• Historically Patient vs. Active Gameplay:

  “Historically the best big brother games have often come from patience… How do you feel like that Rick will be able to reconcile those two things?” —Rob, [07:41]
  “The probability of him actually being patient for two months... I think he’d have to navigate a different path.” —Christian, [08:03]

• Possible Strategies—Cult Leader or Jag-like Run?:

  “I would recommend a cult leader route for Rick if it’s at all possible… Or I don’t know. I’m workshopping strategy live.” —Christian, [08:54]
  “Rick Devins was actually very favor the Edge of Extinction and it would have been a very Jag like victory… a Jag like run might be Rick’s best path to victory.” —Rob, [10:13]

• Working with Other Veterans (Dee, Angela):

  “Him and Dee and potentially Angela working together, bringing in people I think is a good spot to be… He needs to make sure that Dee isn’t capable of protecting all of her people more than he’s able to keep his people around…” —Taran, [10:47]

• Devens’s Perception Among Houseguests:

  “Rick’s gonna be playing it off like I’m just a goofball who doesn’t know Big Brother... He has been cooking up no doubt some kind of crazy lie to tell the Big Brother house about a crazy twist.” —Christian, [11:59]

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3. Survivor–Big Brother Connections and Relationships

• Dee and Rick’s Evolving Rapport: Used Dalton Ross's article to recall Dee being initially annoyed by Rick on Survivor, but being won over as a juror.

  "While they could come into the house in a good spot, it is possible … there could be a return to form where Dee could find him annoying again." —Rob, [14:52]

• Perceptions from Different Survivor Seasons:

  “There’s one perception of Rick … from Edge of Extinction, and then there’s a new … version that was loyal on 50… people who have seen that more recent version… feel good about Rick.” —Taran, [15:39]

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4. Big Brother Mechanics, Audience Engagement & Potential Twists

• Challenge Skills Transfer:

  "He’s great at carnival games… If he ends up in the right spot, maybe you win. A lot of challenges." —Christian, [17:13]
  “He’s sort of like the guy who might get picked last in a pickup basketball game and then be, like, surprisingly good in that game.” —Rob, [17:52]

• Casting Archetypes & Alliance Building:

  "You judge a book basically by its cover… odds are they’re more likely than your average person to be scheming. That’s just the way they’re cast for." —Christian, [18:04]

• Ceremonies vs. Tribal Council:

  “He likes a stage because … he’s good at performing on stage. I don’t know the ceremonies work. You can nominate the nomination ceremony.” —Christian, [21:25]

• Bluffing, Advantages, and Producer Interventions:

  "If he tries to come in and like, hey, I’ve got this ... the big Brother producers in a way that they will not do on Survivor will say you cannot use production as a strategy." —Rob, [22:19]

• Fan Votes and Safety:

  "I do think that he would be in a very advantageous position to be able to win a fan vote in this season." —Rob, [25:06]
  “If there is a fan vote that impacts the game, it’s more than likely to help Rick.” —Taran, [26:50]

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5. Listener Q&A Highlights

Would Christian Play Big Brother?

“Yes. If they gave me the prize money up front.” —Christian, [28:08]

• On Jeff Probst’s BB Appearance:

  “Extremely surprised. I mean, given. Given. I think Jeff’s … Has Jeff been on record about what he said about Big Brother?” —Christian, [29:02]

• Enduring as a Have Not / On Slop:

  "My understanding is that they can only have black coffee… That’s his normal daily thing… He’s gonna be fine." —Christian, [30:34]

Mechanics Questions

• Jury Process:

  "They get sent footage, edited footage... But it is, it’s pretty much like producers choice what they decide to edit." —Taran, [38:38]

• Recurring Big Brother Bits:

  “Is there always a Zingbot?” —Christian, [38:23]
  “Yes.” —Rob, [38:27]

• Zingbot/Rizbot & Robotics Tangent:

  “The Zingbot has now been weaponized in the battlefields of the streets of America in the form of Rizzbot.” —Christian, [36:38]
  “Robots are just as limited as people... So it's a real thing." —Christian, [37:23]

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6. Christian’s Take on Live Feeds & Editing

• Emily’s Frustration with Live Feeds vs. Edits:

  “She did the live feeds in the show and it was new to her that like the live feeds in the show portray different things and felt like the show was like, you know, that was frustrating." —Christian, [42:25]

• Christian’s Ideal Consumption:

  “A long form strategic game where you see everything not the edited product is interesting. That’s the nicest thing I’ll say about Big Brother.” —Christian, [43:17]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I just, I've learned just from Big Brother about the discovery of a new, new element on the, on the periodic table. BB Tonium.”
  —Christian, [02:55]

• “I would recommend a cult leader route for Rick if it's at all possible.”
  —Christian, [08:54]

• “Rick’s gonna be playing it off like I’m just a goofball who doesn’t know Big Brother... But he has been cooking up no doubt some kind of crazy lie…”
  —Christian, [11:59]

• “If I could call it a favor for Jimmy Fallon, it would have been for the Fan vote for $100,000 on the last season.”
  —Christian, [29:47]

• “I mean, we’re not. We’re no frills people, generally speaking. You know, it’s a... Like, like what else on Survivor? Like, I wouldn’t even sleep in the shelter if it wasn’t raining… I slept by the fire in the dirt, face down, like, and it just. You just deal with it.”
  —Christian, [30:59]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:16] – Show opens, introductions, Christian’s Big Brother background
• [05:01] – Christian’s advice for Rick and support before the show
• [06:24] – Rick’s reaction to Big Brother premiere and likely approach
• [07:41] – Active play vs. patience in Big Brother
• [10:13] – Comparisons to Jag/returnee Big Brother archetypes
• [14:52] – Dee’s evolution with Rick & possible house dynamics
• [17:13] – Rick’s challenge/competition skills
• [18:04] – Casting archetypes and alliance formation
• [21:16] – The lack of Tribal Council and impact on Rick’s showmanship
• [22:19] – Bluffing powers, production intervention
• [25:06] – Fan vote discussion
• [27:57] – Listener Q&A begins
• [28:08] – Would Christian play Big Brother?
• [29:02] – Surprised by Jeff Probst’s cameo
• [30:34] – On “slop”/have not status for Rick
• [36:38, 38:23] – Zingbot, Rizzbot, and robotics discussion
• [42:25] – Christian’s wife Emily and the live feeds
• [43:13] – Long-form unedited gameplay appreciation

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Overall Tone & Style

• The tone is playful, light-hearted, and slightly irreverent—Christian often jokes about his limited BB expertise and the wildness of the show’s twists.
• The recap is peppered with in-jokes, references to both Survivor and Big Brother lore, and light ribbing between all participants.
• Christian offers genuine affection and respect for Rick Devens, combining analysis with personal anecdotes.
• Taran provides the “BB expertise,” grounding the discussion, particularly regarding game mechanics, strategy, and live feed realities.

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Conclusion

This episode provides both deep and humorous insights into the Survivor–Big Brother crossover, examining Rick Devens’ prospects with the unique lens of his friend and fellow Survivor strategist, Christian Hubicki. Listeners come away with a better understanding of both the strategic challenges facing Devens and the wacky, ever-evolving world of Big Brother—plus some fun behind-the-scenes tidbits and listener-driven banter.

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For more science facts and updates from Christian, follow his socials at @chubicki.
Live feeds coverage with Taran begins right after the premiere—don’t miss it for real-time BB action.

Transcript

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[Rob Cestrino]

hey everybody. What's going on? Rob Cestrino back and we are here the day after the Big Brother premiere. There's so much going on. We're so excited. We're here with Taron Armstrong. Taren, how are you today?

[Taron Armstrong]

I'm doing great. I'm excited. We got. We got some good stuff to talk about.

[Rob Cestrino]

Rob, we got some great stuff to talk about here today because we're here to talk with a great friend of the pod who is seeing one of his loved ones. His great friend is in the Big Brother house. Rick Devins is in the Big Brother house. And here to talk about it is his partner in crime, Dr. Christian Ubiki.

[Taron Armstrong]

Christian, how are you?

[Rob Cestrino]

Rob?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I'm, I'm elated. You see, I got to watch an episode of Big Brother. So one. How. How could I be happy and, you know, really intellectually stimulated? Because I just, I've learned just from Big Brother about the discovery of a new, new element on the, on the periodic table. BB Tonium.

[Rob Cestrino]

BB Tonium. Yes, yes. And we will get you to fact check all of the science in last night's Big Brother premiere, of course. And here you see Rick Davins, maybe even other people you know, in the Big Brother house. But Christian, could you give us what is your back history with Big Brother? Have you, have you, have you watched big brother before?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

About 9ish years ago. I have seen a Big Brother. I believe it was BB I guess. BB 19 oh.

[Rob Cestrino]

One of the best.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah, that I saw a little bit. I saw a little bit of that. That has been. That was also in the middle of Survivor casting at the time. So I was kind of into reality shows, but I think I tuned in like near the end of the season and I think I missed whatever happens at the beginning.

[Rob Cestrino]

Whatever happens at the beginning. Yes.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Dear God. I had an expectation as to what Big Brother seasons are like as watched on television, and it exceeded them. And I gotta say, it was incredibly, just titillating, engaging and colorful for my one year old son to watch. That's what I found. He was very engaged.

[Rob Cestrino]

Kids love dinosaur.

[Taron Armstrong]

Do you prefer the Big Brother premiere or your accident on Survivor?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I think we all prefer my accident on Survivor, but who doesn't love that?

[Taron Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrino]

So, Christian, in your talks with Rick, could you tell, did you know this was going to happen?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I had an inkling that this was going to happen completely coincidentally. I just woke up from a dream. I was like, Rick's going to be on Big Brother.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah. Yeah. If you could have imparted any advice to Rick, would you have had any advice for him?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Well, my strategy was to watch Corey Wurttenberger's streams on how to play Big Brother.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yes.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

And record them and send them to Rick as podcast. Again, I had no clue explicitly, but I had a dream that he'd go on. Yeah, Rick, this might be useful to you someday.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yes.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

And that's what I did.

[Rob Cestrino]

Okay. Um, so did you listen to them as you were recording them?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I absolutely did. I'd say, you know, well, I had to edit out all of the ads for. For DraftKings, so I had a job to do. And so the, the. So that, you know, I'm not going to, you know, torture him in the, in the pregame, you know, Ponderosa or whatever they call it for Big Brother by making him listen to that many DraftKings ads.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah. Chris, how do you feel like Rick is going to fare in the Big Brother house?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I think that Rick is going to. It's going to find a way to have fun with everything. I will say I watched Rick on this. On this episod and his reaction was very much similar to mine, which is what is going on? What is happening to me right now? He just seemed like there's a volcano. I can see the emotions watching over his face. He's just like, okay, Rachel's here. Oh, I guess Rachel's not here. And I feel like the Big Brother people are like, yay, this is what we asked for. And Rick's like, I don't know what I signed up for. That is my read. But he always has a way to find the fun in the situations. I think that once he gets acclimated and he's going to know the exact right comedy route to go with this.

[Taron Armstrong]

Well, it was my understanding that on Survivor and this is kind of like a behind the scenes thing that, like, before the season starts, you always sacrifice somebody to the volcano, to the Survivor gods.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Oh, yeah, that's. I mean, you know, that's, that's why Davey wasn't on the season. Right.

[Taron Armstrong]

So he was just surprised it was on the show this time.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah, exactly.

[Taron Armstrong]

So, yeah, yeah.

[Rob Cestrino]

So, Christian, we saw that Rick posted a. Or they had an intro video from Big Brother and he actually talked about in the Big Brother video that he's like, like you're not going to believe. Siri told us, though, every day how bad Big Brother is. Could, could you back up that claim? Did siree often talk about how hard the Big Brother house was on her?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Every day. It was, it was. I remember I would, I would ask her about shows. I try not to go too far on it because I don't want to be on the island. But it just, I remember I was like, so, Siri, how was Big Brother? And it's like, never do that again. I would again. And I was like, oh, siree. But how was she? Never, never. She would interrupt me to say never many times. So she. It's, it's, it's a different experience. It's built for different kinds of people. I would say, yeah, you know, you

[Rob Cestrino]

talked about Rick always. You've called Rick Devins a man of action and he's Captain Kirk. He's a man of action. But I think historically the best big brother games have often come from patience, waiting it out, playing the long game. How do you feel like that Rick will be able to reconcile those two things.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Rick will have to find a way to make what he does work for him because the probability of him actually being patient for two months. What is it? What do you say? Rob, what do you say? Go to sleep for the first half of the game?

[Rob Cestrino]

I've said that, that you know, we have evolved that stance that we want at like a more active player who's like going to work building a structure now.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Understood. You know, a strategy evolves. But I remember generally speaking, but that I don't think that's only going to work so long for Rick. Right. I think he'd have to navigate a different path. Now. Is there like a. I don't think Rick is like a cult leader path, but like there are like people who do cults in the house.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah. Well, that season that you watched Brother 19. Yeah, that was good for being a cult leader.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I mean, I would recommend a cult leader route for Rick if it's at all possible. Like if he gets rid of every other returning player and he's the cult leader. Like I don't know. Or I don't know. I'm workshopping strategy live and I'm seeing wincing from Taran. So but like the, like I think that if something where he's able to mobile. I mean he's too kind of like honest to like do that sort of thing. But he's got a charisma about him and people like working with him and he has a loyalty. And I think that there is a route where like, you know, Rick, Emily and I would have just. We would have gone to the end together. We would have ride or die together. We, you know, we laid ourselves on the line for each other. If he finds that and like, and if he. I, I'm going to try to pretend I have big brother knowledge now. Everybody stand back. Everybody. Everybody plant themselves on their seats like nearing the end game. He lines up with like a comp beast. I believe that's what they're called. A compositional beast.

[Taron Armstrong]

Sure.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

And, and, and someone who's super loyal like a, a a a a Bowie jean, I believe it's called, or that. Something like that, you know, that lined up. He could have the game on, on, on. On lock or something.

[Taron Armstrong]

Okay, you're saying you want him to

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Be Jag or a Jazz.

[Rob Cestrino]

You know, honestly that Taryn you just. But you know, Rick Devins was actually very favor the Edge of Extinction and it would have been a very Jag like victory that it was. Rick Devins was voted out of the game. He actually like Jack never left the house. Rick went to the Edge of Extinction for what like nine days, came back, won challenges, played idols, was on his way to potentially winning that game. So a, a Jag like run might be Rick's best path to victory and

[Taron Armstrong]

not, not necessarily a bad one either. I mean typically the returnee path on Big Brother is that you, you do need to work with your fellow veterans for, for a period of time. But obviously at some point you need to, you need to, you need to be able to position yourself to break away. And that's where like I think the activeness comes into play. I think what we see a lot in these situations is the veterans will team up and they'll each start to accumulate their own crew of followers and the veteran that is the most active in making sure that their people are protected and that they have the position that they need to strike in like the mid game they tend to be the ones that come out on top. And so you know, him and D and potentially Angela working together, bringing in people I think is a good spot to be. He just needs to make sure that D doesn't have, doesn't. Isn't capable of protecting all of her people more than he's able to keep his people around because he needs, he's going to need that protection I think once the time comes and he and

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

D have a good working relationship. Like there's no bad blood after, after 50 as far as I, as far as I know the. So I, I mean that doesn't mean that they won't gun for each other. But I think Rick will be thrilled to see D when she, when he, when she runs into the house. I mean also like she puts off a much more threatening air than Rick in my opinion. The only thing with Rick is I don't know what the perception is going to be of him in the house. I know Angela's like, he's so strategic. He's so like she was like in some confessional or sorry doctor in some doctor she was saying that how strategic he was. But like I mean in truth, I mean Rick's gonna be playing it off like I'm just a goofball who doesn't know Big Brother. You know, I'm a 42 year old goofball with the thing he says. But he has been cooking up no doubt some kind of crazy lie to tell the Big Brother house about a crazy twist. You know, it's, you know, you know, you know he had the Mr. Beast twist save him last time and I did let him know that, you know, there's been a new corporate merger on the horizon with Paramount, with the Warner Brothers. With Warner Brothers. So now you may if production lets you do it again. This is all a dream I had that I told him about that. Like he could do all kinds of Warner Brothers DC Cinematic universe tie ins and they might be horizontal integration with production. And so those are things that you could potentially lie about. Now how well that will work in the house, I don't know. Yeah. So it's, I mean Big Brother just does these crazy twists, it seems. And so I really curious. We'll see what kind of crazy idea he has.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah. I want to go back to the relationship with D and Rick Devins because I think it's been an interesting evolution. I go back to Dalton Ross wrote a mega article previewing and reporting on your journey to Fiji in Survivor 50. And a lot of that article was Dee talking about how she thought Rick Devins was very annoying and how he was a try hard. Now I did. It did seem like that he won her over. I don't think that they had any time in the game together. Oh no, actually they were on that. They were on a swap tribe together. Yeah, they were on a swap trap together. And then.

[Taron Armstrong]

And then Ponderosa too.

[Rob Cestrino]

And then. And then D was on the jury and then listen, nobody loves Rick Devins more than people watching Survivor from the jury. And it seemed like that that was where he really seemed to win D over at that point when she was watching him play the game as a juror. I do think it is worth noting that while they could come into the house in a good spot, it is possible that the Big Brother house under close quarters that there could be a return to form where Dee could find him annoying again.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

You're telling me that people having to live in a house together for all that time are going to have learned to hate their literally hate each other. I am shocked. Certainly it sounds like a base state for which when Dee is not familiar with his best antics. Right. She might return to that. I mean, and certainly if Dee's looking for someone to throw under the bus, Rick could be one of those people. But the thing is like Dee to me comes across as much more. I mean, Rick, like Jeff Probst would sometimes refer to Dee's win as me as being dominant, but also somewhat villainous, which I don't honestly believe. I don't get that off of Dee. But I think that some people will see Dee as like, oh, she is dangerous, whereas Rick's like a. Like a. Like a scallywag, a scamp, you know, like, oh, that Rick, you know, and. Yeah. So anyway, Rick, what do you think? Jaron?

[Taron Armstrong]

What I think is interesting is that, you know, with Survivor 50 having aired fairly recently as well, like, there's a chance that there are some people on the cast that only know Rick from his first season and have that memory of him. And. And I think probably what D is talking about in terms of, like, being annoyed with him, I think that people aren't, like, most people, at least aren't annoyed with Rick himself as much as, like, he was very overexposed that season, which tends to cause some backlash in the fan base. You. If you're on the season a lot, people are like, oh, this is really annoying. And he came close to winning that season. So I think there's one perception of Rick, if you remember him from. From Edge of Extinction, and then there's a new sort of version of Rick that was like, oh, he was really loyal to his allies on 50. He did his best to keep them around and to survive as long as he could. And I think he comes off of 50 with, like, a slightly different perception. So people who have seen that more recent version, I think are a lot more likely to. To want to. To feel good about Rick. And in particular, Jason, who just spent a bunch of time on Drag Race, maybe, maybe wasn't able to keep up with 50 and maybe only knows Rick from Edge of Extinction, and maybe that's why he's like, oh, don't trust this man. He's. He's, you know, got some tricks up his sleeves potentially. And so I think that's an interesting component to this.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, the other thing is that if the. If the perceptions of Rick are mostly for 50, people might forget how money challenges Rick one in season 38.

[VRBO Advertiser]

Right.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

He's. And also the types of challenges he wins. I don't know, Big brother challenges, but, like. But he's great at carnival games. He's like the carnival game master. And I don't know if that. It's like, so I don't know what the challenges are like, but, like, he's shockingly good at those. So if he ends up in the right spot, maybe you win. A lot of challenges. I don't know.

[Taron Armstrong]

There's. There's a lot of, like, run back and forth, answering questions, solving puzzles, usually like a baseline level of like a cardio check on your fitness, while also doing something that's relatively simple in terms of, like, puzzles or questions. I feel like, I think he's definitely

[Rob Cestrino]

capable of winning, that he's, like, surprisingly athletic. I, I think he's sort of like the guy who might get picked last in a pickup basketball game and then be, like, surprisingly good in that game,

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

which is generally a great reality show posture. When you're way better than people perceive you to be, that's often where your superpowers come from. Like, you don't expect this about them, but, like, man, I am. I think that one thing I wish I could have talked to Rick about if I knew anything about Big Brother would frankly be about casting archetypes for Big Brother. For Big Brother, I mean, you could. I'm a big believer in the structure in how people are cast for the show and how they tend to behave, although it's hard to quantify. I think there's a lot of wisdom in that. So the Big Brother archetypes, I don't know as well. But like, my general advice, which is relatively useless on returning player seasons because I know who they are, but for new people, like, you judge a book basically by its cover. Like you, like, if you get a sense that this person to you seems schemy just from a look, odds are they're more, more likely than your average person to be scheming. That's just the way they're cast for. It's, it is the gut feeling that you get that the casting director says that's a schemer. Right. And so I, I, so I, I, My recommendation to anyone is, and I, you know, I didn't get the chance to use that on my returning player season, but like, Rick now can. Right. If you can listen to, you know, what his casting instincts are like, you

[Taron Armstrong]

know, we know he gravitates towards, like, the, he said it so on the Premier League, gravitates toward, like, the nerdier archetype, the nerdier players. Is there anyone on this cast that you see that you're like, oh, that he might gravitate toward this person who's

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

the rocket scientist, the young woman.

[Taron Armstrong]

Mallory.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Mallory, that's right. Mallory. I could see him seeing, doing, doing a temperature check to see if she's like an Emily Flippin. I don't know if she is like an Emily there's no one quite em like Emily Flippin. But he does love. He has. He likes the nerds but he also likes people who don't take themselves too seriously but are fun to be around. Right. The people he doesn't like are phonies like that. Like if he feels like you're phony towards them, then he doesn't have it. Or if he feels like you're being hypocritical about like, like I think part of the reason that like leading along with Joe is that like Joe, he felt like Joe's allowed to play Survivor but I'm not allowed to play Survivor. Joe will judge me for playing Survivor but like Emily, he has a blast with. Emma was like, you know what, let's just do this for chaos. Let's just vote for Surrey anyway even though it won't matter on the revote. Sure, let's do that. Right. He loves those kinds of people, but yeah, that's who he gravitates to.

[Rob Cestrino]

One of the things about Rick is that I feel like that he really uses Tribal Council as a show. I think that he is one of the players in Survivor history that probably has most looked at that as an opportunity for. How do I get my point across? How do I be demonstrative to the jury? In Big Brother we don't really have a Tribal council like that, but there are ceremonies where people make nominations or bring people, put them like up for nominee or off the block with the veto. Do you think that that will be helpful for Rick that there's no formal Tribal Council or do you think it'll hurt him in some way?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

It means that he would have to make one, right? Like he has to make a stage. I mean, like s. I mean, I've seen people.

[Taron Armstrong]

What's that House meeting?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I don't know if he would call a House meeting but like, I mean his. He likes a stage because that he's. He's good at performing on stage. I mean, he was a newscaster for many years. He can just. He can perform on that way now. I don't know the ceremonies work. You can nominate the nomination ceremony.

[Taron Armstrong]

Right.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I wonder if there's an opportunity for. I mean, because not only just performing, it's also. Can you do a stunt at there. I'm sure he's thought what's the equivalent of the fake idle Hyde at Tribal Council? Does that exist now? I don't think it would be quite the same, but I'm sure what he's thinking about is if he makes a show that thing you've been looking at all season, he pulls something out from behind it. It's like a hidden immunity idol. He can pretend it is a hidden immunity idol. It's like this is the Survivor twist for the season.

[Rob Cestrino]

Right.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Expect something like that from Rick. I mean, because he's had nothing to do but being sequestered for all this time, he's thinking of that stuff.

[Rob Cestrino]

That being said, though, I think that he is actually held back by Big Brother where Taryn, tell me if I'm off base on this, but if he tries to come in and like, hey, I've got this, this, this sock idol, this is, you know, I can pull myself off that. The big Brother producers in a way that they will not do on Survivor will say you cannot use production as a strategy. Right. Would they. If they asked. If they asked about that. If Rick Devins is saying he has a thing in the diary.

[Taron Armstrong]

Right. Yeah. So it's. It's a tricky line to. To balance, but basically it's. Especially if you. If big Brother has said there's a power and this person has it but we're not telling you what it is or like, like, you can't pretend that your power does something that it doesn't. If, if you're trying to use big Brother to back you up, up big girls be like, no, you can't use us as a strategy. You could take a globe and imply that it has power. I think you could, if you wanted to even try to claim that it has some power. As long as Big brother's done nothing to imply that the globe or you has power.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah.

[Taron Armstrong]

As long as he's not using production to back him up, he can make claims. I would say the potentially bigger downfall is that unlike Survivor, having a power on big Brother, it depends on what the power is. Like, if your power is you can try to nominate me but I'm immune, then people will be like, okay, great, I want to burn that. I'm going to nominate you now. You're immune. Perfect. I'll nominate someone else. So something more along the lines of like, even just like an immunity idol, like, okay, great, we'll just vote you out and if it rebounds on somebody else, great. It's harder to bluff because of how narrow the elimination options are on big Brother with the nominees. But I'm sure he's. He's creative guy. He can probably figure something out.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah, yeah. He said to work around tighter constraints than that. Like, I think with Survivor things and he. And like, sort of. I mean, Jeff's not going to back up your lie. I mean, Jeff, when he pulled out the thing, like, is that night I was like, I'm not a player, you know, like, I'm just like, I can't say anything. So, I mean, one thing that I'm sure that's going to come up is that, like, Siri came into the house with a huge advantage having her son there secretly. Right. And so he. So he could bluff. I have a secret advantage now. People might try to think it's like, you know, the fact that he gets to try to be hoh. He could bluff. It's like, oh, you know, my secret advantage is if I get to, like, the merge or whatever they call it in big Brother. I don't know if I make it to the jury phase. I get to impart a power upon our close ally and that's the chip that I have to give to them. Like, there's a bluff that gets them further in the game, like that sort of thing. I'm sure he's thinking of one thing

[Rob Cestrino]

that also could be in his favor is that they have teased that there is going to be some kind of a vote where something's going to affect the first six weeks in the game. I think that based off of his popularity coming off of Survivor 50, I do think that he would be in a very advantageous position to be able to win a fan vote in this season.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I think that that would be good, especially if it gives an alleged advantage. Right. And. And he is also. His car blotch. Like to say this is something Survivor themed. He's in the show with Survivor. He's on it because of the coin flip and all the shenanigans. He can say that the show is trying to. He could plausibly sell that the show is trying to back him up with these shenanigans, you know?

[Taron Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I, I think it's the. The fan vote thing. It said it will last six weeks, which definitely implies, you know, Big Brother Canada has done this in the past with a similarly mixed returning cast where they just gave somebody safety until jury. I don't think we'll do that. But, like, that's certainly possible. Six weeks would roughly track until maybe around the jury phase. Or it could. You know, there was a season where, funny enough, Rachel Riley's sister was on the season and the audience often voted for. Because every week they voted, they voted for Rachel Riley's sister Alyssa to get a power to nominate somebody, which basically made Alyssa immune the entire time. And a valuable asset to any alliance that wanted to nominate anybody they wanted. So, yeah, I would say, especially given how much I'm sure Big Brother wants Rick and D to stick around, that if there is a fan vote that impacts the game, it's more than likely to help. To help Rick.

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[Rob Cestrino]

Christian, how are you doing on time? You have time for some listener questions?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I do, I do. I do have some time.

[Rob Cestrino]

Okay. All right, here is a question. This is from Jules 21. Christian, would you play Big Brother?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yes. If they gave me the prize money up front.

[Rob Cestrino]

Not interested.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

For you, three months is the big kicker. I mean like five weeks I can swing during the summer. Like the sheer impact on just my job being gone for three months, which I enjoy and like to keep, is. Is. Is. Is. The funny part is like it would be catastrophic. The funny part is I, after my first season Survivor, I got to meet with the president of my university who's whose family are big Survivor fans and they're like, oh, Christian, Christian, it's nice to meet you. My wife wants to know, would you do Big Brother? And I'm thinking you would have to fire me if I went on a Big Brother. Was this is your plan? Do you not want me around? Just go on Big Brother and be gone from. Anyway, so logistically, basically, how surprised were

[Rob Cestrino]

you to see Jeff pop up in the premiere?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Extremely.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Extremely surprised. I mean, given. Given. I think Jeff's. Has Jeff been on record about what he said about Big Brother? You know, when he said like, you know, oh, I think he'd be great on Big Brother. I think. Jeff, do you not like Rick anymore?

[Taron Armstrong]

I thought this. I was like, is he insulting Rick? The perfect fit. Really?

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah. I was very surprised, but Jeff read the letter and I said to myself, well, at least it's not a letter from Jimmy Fallon.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

You know, I have that letter at home. I got to keep it. So for my letter from Jimmy Fallon. So that. That's. That's in the archives for me.

[Rob Cestrino]

Okay.

[Taron Armstrong]

Do you think you could call in a favor from Jimmy Fallon to do a twist on Big Brother to help Rick?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

If I could call it a favor for Jimmy Fallon, it would have been for the Fan vote for $100,000 on the last season. Really? I'm not getting any favors from him.

[Rob Cestrino]

Jen wants to know, Christian, are you still visiting Rick Devins, his family?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I am back from Rick Devins's family. I had a wonderful time seeing them. For those who didn't see, I got to post some videos with the Rick that. With the Devins is during the premiere week. And it was a joy. They're all. They're all doing well and yeah, hopefully they're having a good time watching.

[Rob Cestrino]

Okay, this is from Ann, who says, how will Rick do if he is on slop or a have not? This is. I think he's going to do four Fine. That's Survivors. We laugh at having that. Like, oh, I'm punished. I can only. I can only eat. Eat the slop.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

The. My understanding is that they can only have black coffee. When you have slop, you can have coffee, but it's black drinks black coffee. Like, that's his normal daily thing. Like, Like, I, I just. He's gonna be fine.

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[Rob Cestrino]

You go from you have no food to like, oh, you can only. You can only eat this nutrient dense porridge.

[Taron Armstrong]

Well, you got to take cold showers.

[Rob Cestrino]

That would be a reward on Survivor.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I mean, there's. There's all those tropes about it, but it's just like, I mean, we're not. We're no frills people, generally speaking. You know, it's a. Like, like what else on Survivor? Like, I wouldn't even sleep in the shelter if it wasn't. If it wasn't raining. I slept like, by the fire in the dirt, face down, like, and it just. You just deal with it. And so, like, uncomfortable bed. That's all going to be fine. It's the length that I think is going to be a chat the duration of the. Of the show. It's gonna be challenged for any Survivor player. I mean, Rick can pull these stunts, but he knows that's not a sustainable path to victory. But I Think that one of the best thing that Rick's got going for him is, you know, I don't want to speak out of school, but this is not Rick's life dream to be on Big Brother, and therefore he's okay if he, like, like, he's. He's playing with house money here and like, you have a fun time. That's when he's great. That's when he's best. He wasn't supposed to be on Survivor 50. He was an alternate. He got put on. It's like, well, heck, you know, I wasn't supposed to be here. Why not go crazy? And he had a fun time.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah. I do wonder if. I think that Rick looks at that as a perfectly viable outcome to burn bright and fast on Big Brother, make some moments give people what they want, and if he happens to be back home before the jury starts, I think that that might be okay, too.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I think. Yeah. I, you know, I think Rick being at home with his family, you know, I, I think it has its own rewards for Rick. So. But not that he. Rick will always try. Rick never not tries. I mean, I talk with Emily. It's funny. We're talking. I was talking with Emily about, like, going on Big Brother and she laughed, of course. And. And it's like. Because, like, yes, you could go home early and, you know, not. Not basically play, but I'm not. I'm never gonna go on a show and not play. You know, why am I there? You know, it's. It's there, you know, anyway, that's. Rick and Rick is the same. The same way.

[Taron Armstrong]

I, I think it's. I think Big Brother can sometimes surprise people. And it even happened to Rachel last season. She'd done the show twice before and just found herself, like, struggling at a. At a moment and was like, I don't. I don't even know if I can do this. Like, it's, it is, I think, a lot harder than people anticipate, especially because it's so long. And if you find yourself out of power for weeks and weeks on end and just. You're just being dragged along, you just have nothing to do. It can get real tough. But. But I think if anyone's, like, prepared to handle some tough times, hopefully it's. It's. It's Rick.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

But I think six days on the edge, I forget how long he was on the edge. But, like, that. The edge probably sucks.

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Yeah.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

But, yeah.

[Rob Cestrino]

Christian, did you have any other questions about Big Brother that maybe we could answer for you?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yes. What is Meow Meow Industries.

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[Taron Armstrong]

So they're a pretty cutting edge company that leading the way in, in time travel back, you know, a few years ago, they dabbled in a time laser prototype that did some weird things, brought us to some weird like Christmas land or something. I don't fully understand what was going on with it, but clearly they've refined their technology, they've turned it into this table. And, and it seems like that it's, it's been working pretty well. Like they're kind of nailing exactly where they want to go.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Well, first off, I'm waiting for their IPO so I can get on, get in on that. But the, but, but secondly, I mean they more or less, you know, confirmed D by giving the date of her. What was her winning Survivor 45 as like the date that they, that they transported to. Also who did. Did. Here's the other thing. It could be Austin Le. What's that?

[Rob Cestrino]

Could be Austin Lee Coon.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah. So it could be Grant Austin perhaps. But I, I gotta say, I love how some production assistant had to consult Trudeau times to get the date that Rick Devins was voted out for, for that. That's, you know, it's a big day for Jeff Pittman. That's all I'll say.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yes. Which date was it? Was it the date that he lost the fire making challenge? Was that what they went back to or the date he was voted out

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

of his original tribe, I believe is in July. So it has to be, it has to be the fire making challenge for sure.

[Taron Armstrong]

I would like to say I think it would have been really fun if they had given that Jeff was there and that maybe that, you know, it's easy, right, Swapping. But like if they had just green screened them on to the Survivor episode where, where Rick was like losing fire and they're like, like trying to prevent it from happening. And I think they should do that with D too. Like, like d win Survivor and they like like rush her off to Big Brother right away. I think that'd be fun.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

The only challenge with that is you. I, I. Okay. I think that they might have to get releases. Big Brother might have to get releases from the people that they show Now

[Taron Armstrong]

I believe they showed clips of Surrey from Survivor when Suri was on. So I think, I think it's doable.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

But I speak with malice of knowledge that you people might have to sign releases to be shown on Big Brother if they were on Survival.

[Rob Cestrino]

If that was the case, can that would be D leaving to go play Big Brother, right after she won and says that she would not. It would not be the D that even knows Rick Devins that would be playing in season 50.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

This is. We got some, like some tenant going on here.

[Taron Armstrong]

Listen, Rob, I'm sure Enzo can explain it all away. I'm sure he understands the intricacies of the time travel paradox.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yes. Christian, have you ever given any thoughts on the mechanics of the Zingbot as a roboticist?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Well, I mean, the Zingbot has now been weaponized in the battlefields of the streets of America in the form of Rizzbot.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yes.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Rizbot is an actual robot that goes around that trolls around in various sporting events and delivers various elements of Riz. Some of which are zings, some of which are compliments, mostly Zings and social media following. So we have, you know, the.

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[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

The technologies come a long way.

[Taron Armstrong]

Rob, does. Does the rise bot also pass out in high heat?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Oh, absolutely. I'll tell you, that's. That's a real thing. I think that happened with. With the Zingbot. Is that a thing?

[Taron Armstrong]

Famously, Brittany Haynes has a great story about Zingbot passing out while giving zings.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I mean, it's a real. You know, since I'm here and I'm wearing the robotics lab coat here, I have to give robotics as a real thing in robots. Robots are just as limited as people. Their capacity of their motors and everything folds back when they heat up. They get overheated, batteries behave differently. So there was recently a robot just broke the. Broke the human world record for running a half marathon in China. And they had to dump dry ice on it at like, at different stops to cool it down. So it's a real thing.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah, yeah. Sometimes the person in the costume also gets completely having a heat stroke.

[Taron Armstrong]

Yes.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

You're implying that there's not that there's a person inside the Zingbot, Rob, telling me there's no Christmas. Did Q cancel it here, too?

[Taron Armstrong]

Yeah, I heard that's how they did the racing thing, too. There was just somebody inside. So they were like, if they're in a robotic suit, it makes them run faster. It's just.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah, it's Zigbot every season. Reason?

[Rob Cestrino]

Yes.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Because always a Zingbot. Is there always an ot?

[Rob Cestrino]

Yes.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah. There's always yell about butter.

[Rob Cestrino]

No.

[Taron Armstrong]

Okay.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

All right. Is there. So there is a jury?

[Rob Cestrino]

Yes.

[Taron Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Is. Does the jury see anything?

[Taron Armstrong]

They get. Okay, so this is. This is controversial. They get sent footage, edited footage of usually the ceremonies, sometimes bits of the competition, and also some goodbye messages. Generally that people record. But it is, it's pretty much like producers choice what they decide to edit into those.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Those little bits of footage. Oh, fun. Yeah.

[Taron Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

There are there periods where many people are ineligible for nomination. Like, like, like only half the house is eligible for nomination.

[Rob Cestrino]

Oh. Like a blood.

[Taron Armstrong]

Usually just at the start.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Sorry. Okay. All right.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah.

[Taron Armstrong]

All right.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I got the background. I have two literal experts. This is what I'm using my time for to ask for these big part of the questions I could have googled. Thank you.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah. Christian, I do hope that we can continue to have this conversation over the course of the season.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

You got it, Rob. But you know, at some point, you know, my son is going to have to tap in and just give me the, give me the, give me the Terran updates here because like, he's. He's enthralled. Yeah.

[Rob Cestrino]

The colors, the slime, the dinosaurs. I mean, it's really everything that a young, you know, one year old TV viewer could watch.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Can I say that when Rachel was unceremoniously murdered by a dinosaur.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

People seemed happy there. See, people seemed happy in the. The other contestants are like, oh, thank God, she's gone.

[Taron Armstrong]

Yeah. Rachel, I think, remains somewhat controversial with the casual fan base and apparently is very controversial with Angela herself.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Angela seemed really happy.

[Rob Cestrino]

I. I did hear that the same thing happened when Kyle got medevact on season 50. Is that true?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Oh, yes. We were all cheering. I think. I think I actually went into Camila's face. I was like, he's gone. He's gone. At the challenge, which. Which thankfully they cut.

[Taron Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrino]

The people, they. They are so thirsty for the win. They just feel like, okay, one last. It's like the Hunger Games. Like, one less person in my way to win this money.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Oh, also, I was. It took me a minute. When they went back in time. What is my life right now, Rob? When they went back in time and. And they went to, you know, the first time, it's flat circle.

[Taron Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

When the Angela's passed, I was like, I thought it was D. It's like, is this D in makeup? They have her doing a character. I was so confused. It took me a while because I don't really know what Angela. I realized, oh, yeah, has that sort of valley girl type accent. I get it.

[Taron Armstrong]

I don't think he was alive at the time, did they?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

What's that?

[Taron Armstrong]

I don't think D was alive at the time.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

I was trying to think like, what is happening? He was like a. Like, like, I don't know. They didn't went to the bar. I was like, was d. Serving drinks when she was 11 and Las Vegas. It's like I. I was deeply confused. But. But like, eventually I was like, oh, it's Rachel. They strung me. They tricked me, Rob. They got me.

[Rob Cestrino]

I would love to see young Christian in some IP reality TV show.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

There would be the most unremarkable footage imaginable. Here's Christian in a linoleum lab. Lab, like sleeping under his desk. You know, it's like. But, you know, as he's like waiting for his code to compile or something. Yeah, that's what.

[Taron Armstrong]

He'd love that.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah.

[Taron Armstrong]

They would have you working on a prototype of Zingbot, you know, like, I think it would work.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah. Yeah. Again, prize money up front. That's all I'm saying.

[Rob Cestrino]

Chris, I know you've been in and out with Big Brother, but is your incredible wife Emily, is she a yearly Big Brother viewer?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

No, she. She in the face, in and out, same time. She was much more in on Big Brother when. When during that time, the thing that was troubling for her, she did the live feeds in the show and it was new to her that like the live feeds in the show portray different things and felt like the show was like, you know, that was frustrating. And I think for her, she was like, I can't get this worked up over it. I have to take a break. So like, here's the. Here's my thing. I know I. Those amongst the fan base and I apologize. You know, might know that I'm not the biggest Big Brother fan, but I would in the abstract love to like consume all the live feeds. Like, it seems like the live feeds game seems really interesting. I just can't justify dedicating my life to the live feeds. This is why we have Taren.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

With Taryn, you get those life.

[Taron Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

So that, that looks interesting to me. A long form strategic game where you see everything not the edited product is interesting. That. That's. That's what I'll say. That's the nice, nicest thing I'll say about Big Brother.

[Taron Armstrong]

Yeah, that's. That's. It's a very accurate thing to say about Big Brother.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah. Okay. Well, Christian, this was so wonderful for you to stop by and talk about your thoughts about the great Rick Devins. The. Would you call him the. The. The hero of Macon, Georgia?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah, the.

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[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

The. The.

[Rob Cestrino]

The.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah.

[Rob Cestrino]

The pride of making Georgia, maybe.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah. It's easy. Yeah. But he. I believe Macon has a Rick Devins day. They had A Rick.

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Really?

[Rob Cestrino]

What, what is it?

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Well, I think it's. Well, when you have days, they're only on a particular year, so it's not like a perennial day. Like that.

[Rob Cestrino]

That day they should have gone back in day.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

See, where, where's our check, Rob? Where's our check? For consulting? We had all these great ideas. I could have consulted on the time laser. I could have consulted, you know, anyway, so they could have licensed my patent on it. But whatever, whatever, Rob. Such is life.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah. Okay. You have anything you want people to check out? I know you have a lot of great social media videos where you're explaining all sorts of different science breakthroughs and interesting facts.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Yeah, yeah. You can check me out on my socials at Chubicky. C H U B I C K I Or just my name on particularly Instagram. But now I'm cross posting to, to even TikTok and Facebook and, and Blue sky and all these things. I just like doing fun science videos. So feel free to go go check them out if you want to learn. Like for instance, you know why the taser is called the Taser? You know, people know this fact. You know, the, the Taser has a weird. It's. It's called, it's named after. It's called Thomas A. Swift's Electric Rifle. It's named after an old. Yeah, it's after an old children's book about where Tom Swift invents an electric rifle. And the guy like named it after this book. And so the fun fact is that Thomas A. Swift a. Is not even his middle name. So there's your fun fact for why the taser is called the Taser.

[Rob Cestrino]

They faked it.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

What's that?

[Rob Cestrino]

See, I thought it was short for time laser.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Oh, you know, and you can't do

[Rob Cestrino]

that with Meow Industries have a Taser.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Now they, well, they, they hold the patent on other devices that are. That are named the same thing. So.

[Taron Armstrong]

Okay, if, if Meow Meow Industries contacted you for some consultation, would you. Would you pick up the phone price any upfront? Okay.

[Rob Cestrino]

All right. Well, Christian, thank you so much for stopping by. We appreciate you so much. And I'll talk to you soon.

[Dr. Christian Ubiki]

Okay, Take care.

[Taron Armstrong]

Okay.

[Rob Cestrino]

Okay. All right. And then of course, for everybody else who's here with us, Taryn, I know that you are about to be underway with live feed updates starting on Saturday. You're about to go into your lab and be watching live feeds non stop.

[Taron Armstrong]

Yes, they start tonight and. Oh boy.

[Rob Cestrino]

Yeah, here we go. All right, thank you so much for joining us for this conversation with Dr. Christian Ubiki. We'll talk to you soon.

[Taron Armstrong]

Bye.

[Chevy Advertiser]

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[Rob Cestrino]

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