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What's going on? Rob Cerinito we are back. It's time to talk some Big Brother people say where's the Big Brother podcast? Well, we got one for you. We're talking about Big Brother 28 and today. Are we getting returning players? We don't know for sure but we might be. And if we are, who are they? That's what we're drafting here today. So.
Taryn Armstrong
So exc.
Rob Cesternino
To have you here with us. And we're so excited that this man is back and ready to go for Big Brother 28. It's Taryn Armstrong. Taryn, how are you?
Taryn Armstrong
I'm doing great, Rob. Excited to be here. You know, there's. There's rumors every year. Yes. Like, oh, the returning players is going to be All Stars. Going to be All Stars. Then All Stars actually happened and the rumors started to kind of die down. But there have been some rumors there might be returning players this season. We saw the ratings were great last season when Rachel came back, so we might actually get some returning players. Who knows?
Rob Cesternino
Yep.
Taryn Armstrong
So let's, let's. Who should it be?
Rob Cesternino
The rumor we're here for is, you know, alive and kicking, and we don't know what's real and what's not, but we'll try to draft it here today. How have you been, Taren?
Taryn Armstrong
Oh, I've been great. Listen, big brother 27 nearly killed me, so I was very dedicated to in the offseason. I was like, I'm going to get as healthy and relaxed as possible. And I'm coming in. Rob, this is. I am the most ready physically, mentally, I've ever been. I'm. I'm ready to go.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Okay. All right, well, we'll have to hear about that over the course of the summer. The new routine is. Okay. We're so excited that mother is here. Of course. So excited to be back with Sasha Joseph. Sasha, how are you?
Sasha Joseph
So good, you know, so happy to be a married mother. And listen, you said bring on conspiracy. We're going to be talking gossip. And I'm here, okay, because I am trying to make conspiracy fun again. And I think this is the pod for that, the speculation. We're here.
Rob Cesternino
Wait, do you have conspiracies that you want to talk about? Anything that you've uncovered over on Magnets?
Sasha Joseph
Yeah. Who's Mindy Kaling's baby daddy? Oh, exactly. See?
Rob Cesternino
Is it. Is it somebody. That's it.
Sasha Joseph
Right? I like that, but no. Okay. It's a white man.
Taryn Armstrong
That a hint of who's on your list.
Rob Cesternino
I mean, I could see her going for pooch.
Sasha Joseph
Whoever. A white man that like low key dogs her. So we could be.
Puya Zam Kuya
We already have our first off season podcast for Post Big Brother.
Rob Cesternino
Yes. Locked in. Okay. And of course, we're so excited to be back with the Duke of Deception. Here he is. It's Puya Zam Kuya, how are you?
Puya Zam Kuya
I am doing good, Rob. Listen, once your season of Traders ended, I feel like I also fell into a bit of an off season. I'm excited to be out of it. I'm excited to be out of it. Watch me regret this in a month, but I can't wait to.
Rob Cesternino
No, we're chopping at the bit.
Taryn Armstrong
It's fun.
Rob Cesternino
And we're so excited that Big brother comes back July 9th. And so we are getting up and all ready to go. Puia, did you see today that they announced September 17th trader and it's traders season five? It's not traders. A whole new thing. It's Traders Season five. Colon. New blood.
Puya Zam Kuya
New blood is very interesting. And also five is my favorite mambo. So you already know I'm going to be excited for this.
Rob Cesternino
Is that what they did? They have a little bit of Erica, Will Lou Vega be in the cast of Big Brother 28?
Puya Zam Kuya
If Lou Vega gets into the house and I don't get to draft him first overall when we do the draft, I will be fuming.
Rob Cesternino
You wanted Will Mega, but here's Lou Bega. All right, so we're pumped up about that. And then also, Taryn, I know that you were working on Some Big Brother 28 preseason content as well.
Taryn Armstrong
Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, I mentioned big brother 27 nearly killed me. And that's in part because half the cast talked about how they asked chat GPT how to play the game. And so should I ask Claude? Maybe. Maybe. But I thought maybe we can do even better than Claude or Chad gbt. Maybe we can ask some of the most. Some of the recent winners of the game. How do you play Big Brother? How can you win Big Brother? And so we've got a little mini preseason talking to a few winners. I've already talked to Chelsea about how do you win Big Brother? How do you play some tips, some tricks. Somebody going on the season, this season. You should probably.
Rob Cesternino
Probably watch.
Taryn Armstrong
Watch those videos.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. You know, Big Brother 26 was so real that AI was the enemy then. And we didn't even realize it, that Ainsley was taking. Nobody was talking about her data center or anything like that. But they were so ahead of their time two years ago.
Taryn Armstrong
Truly. I mean, we were hating on AI before it became popular.
Rob Cesternino
Yes.
Taryn Armstrong
Period.
Rob Cesternino
Janky world. And all of it, all of it that it was so. It was ahead of its time. Okay, so we have a draft order that Sam has come up with and he spun a wheel, I believe, and oh, did he say what it is or does the Sam want to come on and tell us what the order is?
Taryn Armstrong
Like, it's okay.
Sasha Joseph
He has not.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. How about that?
Taryn Armstrong
Oh, it just landed.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. All right.
Puya Zam Kuya
Is.
Taryn Armstrong
It's currently being done.
Rob Cesternino
Currently being done. Okay. Taryn is first.
Puya Zam Kuya
Taryn's first. All right.
Rob Cesternino
Yep. Taryn is coming in hot. Taryn coming in with the. With the belt from not only Big Brother 27, also the Survivor 50 draft. Also.
Taryn Armstrong
We'll have to look. I'm just really good at drafts that happen before the game is even filmed. That's. That's how it works.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
Yes. I'm excited. I'm excited.
Puya Zam Kuya
So.
Taryn Armstrong
So just to make clear what we're doing here, we're drafting teams of who we think might be cast on this on season 28. If there are to be returning players.
Rob Cesternino
Snake draft or just normal for this,
Taryn Armstrong
we can snake it.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. All right. So we're going to do four rounds here, pick the people that are going to be on the kit, the cast. That's it. We don't know if there will be returning players. We don't know how many returning players, but the person who ends up with the most returning players wins this draft.
Taryn Armstrong
There you go.
Rob Cesternino
For funsies. For fun.
Taryn Armstrong
Yes. And. And. And in. In that light, I do. I. You know, this is. This is. I'm trying to be somewhat realistic. Right. Like, who are they going to ask? Who would say yes? I'm also maybe, like, excluding some people that are, like, clearly way too talkative on social media still at this point. Like, they're probably not gonna be on this season.
Rob Cesternino
Probably not. But it's. You never know.
Taryn Armstrong
But you never know. Maybe they're in Greece. You know, it's. It's not impossible.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
But I feel like, am I. Am I ready to make my choice? Am I good?
Rob Cesternino
Just hold on. So that the order is going to be Taryn, then Sasha, then me, then Puya. Okay. And I'll say the stakes are whoever wins the draft. I will. I will buy a cameo from a Big Brother alumni. It can be of your choosing, or it could be from the rest of the panel. And that person will declare this person the best podcaster on rjp. Okay.
Taryn Armstrong
You will be now really locked in
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Puya Zam Kuya
stakes now
Rob Cesternino
by a. I got to come back by a Big Brother alumni of. Of our choosing. The other. I think the other people can weigh in on who the person is, but nobody controversial. Nobody was canceled.
Puya Zam Kuya
No, no.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, my gosh.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Okay. So the other three of us will, like, you know, I'll pay for it.
Taryn Armstrong
Thank you. All right.
Rob Cesternino
Even if it's for me. Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
You give yourself the best gift. I get it. All right.
Rob Cesternino
All right, Taryn, you're up first. You said there was somebody that you were excited about.
Taryn Armstrong
Listen, I. I've been thinking about this and I've been thinking about who's a recent player who was really entertaining, who would be very fun to see back, who's going to play really hard and who isn't really on social media much. And now Rob, even more incentive, who would I love to get a cameo from? Give me Vince Panera.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, That's a good pick.
Sasha Joseph
Boo you.
Rob Cesternino
That is a boo. Because it was a good pick.
Sasha Joseph
Yes.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, he was on my board. It was a really good pick. I.
Taryn Armstrong
Listen, obviously, Vince and Morgan, they cost me years of my life last summer, but the fact is, you know, whether you thought he was entertaining or.
Rob Cesternino
Or.
Taryn Armstrong
Or like, good or bad at the game, Vince, I think cared more about his time in that house than most people who have ever stepped foot in the game. And I think that is like one of the number one criteria that I. That I have when I'm looking for a player. And, And. And frustrating as he sometimes was, it was really, really fun to watch him throughout the season, especially in retrospect, and. And I. I would love to see Vince come back again. Is. Is. Is immediately the following season the right time for Vince? Probably not, but. But I think it would be very fun. I think that Vince in a new cast would be really interesting to see, especially if they have an idea of, like, how he played his first time and what did he learn from that. And, like, I feel like there's a lot left unsaid when it comes to Vince and his journey on Big Brother, and so I think we have to see him back.
Rob Cesternino
There would be a redemption storyline. Can he pull it off? What's he going to be like? Has he had growth in the last year? I think there's so much to explore with Vince. And I know we were talking about big brother. 27 was so great and Rachel brought so much to it, but I really think that Vince also. That really kept things alive for the entire run of the season.
Sasha Joseph
One of the closest old school types will get right, like, where they actually cared about the game first, and they were just acting a fool doing anything and everything, like, you know, the little bit of snakery that I miss. So it's just. He was. He was giving me flashes in the pan. So come back, come back.
Puya Zam Kuya
There's Two things I want to say about this. First of all, y' all already called a lot of it, so I don't need to rehash any of that. Two things. One, I 100 can see this, and I think this is a great pick. Two, I now my darkest fears have come to light because I do think Taryn morphed into Vince a little bit at the end of last season and he's two in character still and he's ready for the reenactments because the man made every, like every live feed update had started to become must see. Like, it's always going to be something I was going to tune into. You had to tune in even all the way to the bitter end of the season. There was no bitter. It was just entertainment all the way through. And he was a big part of that. So, Taren, fire up the beanie.
Taryn Armstrong
Listen, listen, I have faith in Vince. He's going to be a new player and it's going to be a new character. We. I, I can't. I can't repeat. That's. That's not what we do. That, that character, it was, it was fitting for big brother 27. Vincy's coming back. He's going to be a new guy. Vince going to be a new impression.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Do we think Vince wants to come back?
Taryn Armstrong
Why not?
Rob Cesternino
Why not? Would he be single and ready to mingle?
Sasha Joseph
Yeah. Wasn't there paparazzi video of him wanting to come back or did I just made that up?
Taryn Armstrong
There was paparazzi video of him.
Rob Cesternino
I don't know if it was paparazzi photography of him. I don't know if he got an interview from the. Oh, from, from.
Puya Zam Kuya
I remember those photos
Sasha Joseph
recently. I thought I saw something, but me, when I, you know, I like to lie on the Internet. So.
Taryn Armstrong
Okay, listen, it's. It's one of those. It's like, like, what do you got to lose at that point? Right? Like, he already kind of like went through the ringer. I feel like you. There's only up to go from here. And so I feel like, as opposed to a lot of these people we might talk about who had great experiences, there's kind of only room to go down most of the time. I feel like Vince is in a prime position to like, get in there and, and really, you know, rehab. His, his reputation as a, as a player and as a, you know, as a, as a character.
Rob Cesternino
Vinnie the Lip. Okay. Is he coming back? Mentioned for the second day in a row on RHAP podcast after I, I mentioned him. On the talking love island with Kirsten and Scally, that I said that sincere is giving to me.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, that's.
Puya Zam Kuya
Oh, that's hilarious. That's a good thing. That's actually a pretty good take.
Rob Cesternino
He's just.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
All right, let's number two pick to Sasha.
Sasha Joseph
All right. I. Okay. I was going to go all chaos, but then you said competition, so now I'm going to try a little bit. And listen, I really like him. Yeah, I really like him. He really likes puzzles. I'm picking Tucker. Tucker 26.
Rob Cesternino
Tucker's a really interesting pick. I think that the big Brother would certainly want Tucker back. I think the question is, does Tucker want to be back in the Big Brother house?
Sasha Joseph
Redemption. Right. Like, similar to Vinnie, but. But I just think you have to, like, stroke his ego a little bit. Right. Like, you were so great. Don't you want to win more comps and put. Throw some, like, random integrity thing in there? I don't know. Like, he was just. So. I'm gonna follow my sword type of player. I just.
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Just.
Sasha Joseph
Come on. That's the pitch to him.
Rob Cesternino
What about Tucker's brother? Oh, no, no.
Sasha Joseph
We'll keep him on the Amazing Race.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
No, no. Shade.
Puya Zam Kuya
I would largely credit Tucker with the big format change we got last year where we have this new comp that was there every eviction night.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
And I think he was a catalyst for that. Yeah. And he loves his puzzles. You know, they love him. So I think they come a knock in. I think even if he was, like, unsure, I. I can't see the man not taking the deal. Not going for it.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
I think. I think you. You might be on to something. I think that they would certainly be interested. But. But Tucker did not enjoy his time on big Brother. He was constantly talking about wanting to quit. He was, like, always arguing with production. He was a great character, but he really did not seem to enjoy the process. And now he's at a taste of something like the Amazing Race where he found a good amount of success. And I think Tucker would probably be like, can I. Can I get on like the Traders or, like, can I do something more fun than having to get stuck on big Brother? I don't know if he wants to go back.
Rob Cesternino
I think. Right.
Taryn Armstrong
Like, he's kind of like a rising star, and I don't think he needs big Brother, and I don't think he has the affinity for it that a lot of other players might.
Rob Cesternino
So I think that that's, like, if it was big Brother's choice They would draft Tucker this high that the only thing that holds out for me is like, does he want to do it again?
Sasha Joseph
I'll convince him. Convince him to win the draft.
Rob Cesternino
All right. Tucker number two. People would be psyched to see Tucker back. Not all people, but some people for sure. I'm going to stick with Big Brother 26. Big Brother 26. I think that, you know, I feel like we don't talk about it like, okay, that was one of the all time seasons, but there was a lot of. It was a top heavy cast. There were some bangers there, and I'm gonna go with a big one. She, of course, was a star of Big Brother 26, Big Brother and the Amazing Race. Give me Angela Murray.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah. Great pick. Great pick.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
I think she would want to come back. I think that they would want her back. I think that the fans would be excited for. For Angela to come back.
Sasha Joseph
Do you think, Rob? We get like a challenge, rivals type and then crazy eyes. Matt and Angela are cast together.
Rob Cesternino
Oh, I wasn't even look. Matt Hardman could come up. I agree.
Sasha Joseph
But listen for the memes for the storyline.
Taryn Armstrong
I think, I think Angela absolutely could be asked. I think she absolutely would do it. Is it the right spot for her to be like one of four returnees, one of two returnees, or is she more of like an all star attorney? That's kind of, I think, the biggest question for me. But I mean, I would be surprised if we never saw Angela back ever on Big Brother.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. What do you think, Puya?
Puya Zam Kuya
I. I mean, I think this was a first round pick for sure. So I'm not. I. I think you picked very well here. She's someone I could definitely see back again. I think would want to come back again. I think they could ask back again. For me, the only concern is I don't. We don't like, first of all, like you mentioned, we do not know how, like if there's any returnees, period. If there's a small subset, does she fit in that small subset? I don't see that. But if it's a full cast, I could see that. I think to parrot what Taryn said here, though, I do think Angela is a surefire pick for a returning season down the line, whether it's this summer or the future summers.
Rob Cesternino
So for sure, talk me through what you're thinking. You think it's so it might be captains and you feel like that they may pick out different types of people to be captains.
Puya Zam Kuya
I feel like typically at. When there's captains I, I feel like they're not going to end up like if they're going with like let's say Tucker, it's not going to be like Tucker, Keanu, Angela and someone else. You know what I mean? Like, it'll be someone more closer to that M.O. maybe someone a little more athletic, maybe someone a little younger. I'm not sure that's the only reason why I would say if there's captain situation far beyond many people that enter that house. We know this.
Taryn Armstrong
I feel like probably the closest analog to a spot like this where it's one of four players potentially is like James, but he was, he was like America's favorite going into that, whereas Angela did not manage to win that, that title. So I, I do think it's a little bit of an uphill climb to get into like a one of four spots. But I think, like I said, I think it's a no brainer if it was something like All Stars.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Okay. I don't think it's going to be all returnees, so I, I think that there could be. Will be some, but I, I think it's maybe four, maybe eight. Could it be half and half?
Taryn Armstrong
They've never done it.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
In the U.S. like it?
Rob Cesternino
Why not?
Taryn Armstrong
Okay.
Rob Cesternino
All right. I don't think, I don't think they
Taryn Armstrong
need like half and half. Is is I think too lopsided for the returnees. Personally, I think that they would just dominate the other side. It would not be very fun.
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Rob Cesternino
Kuya, you're up here. End of the first round.
Puya Zam Kuya
Mm. And as usual, being at the end of the first round, I'm seeing a lot of picks I was looking at be taken. So I think I'm going to pivot a little bit. I'm looking at. And because it's back to back, I think it only makes sense for me to pick these two people back to back. I'm looking at alternates here, y'.
Sasha Joseph
All.
Puya Zam Kuya
I'm looking at two people that were not on the main cast the day the cast dropped.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
And then got brought in a last second and were both incredible ads. Two people I would love to see play again. Two people that have gone on to have quite a bit of success on television after the fact that. So with my first one, I'm gonna go to. I'm gonna go with Claire from big brother 23.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. She's coming in hot off of an appearance on we know Love island the other night.
Puya Zam Kuya
And then we have seen her.
Rob Cesternino
Let's just talk through Claire first. And then. And then. Okay. That's an interesting one of Claire coming back for a season of Big Brother. I guess I thought off the top of my head, maybe that. Does she want to do three more months in the Big Brother house?
Puya Zam Kuya
I mean, like, she would go ahead.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
I could see it. I think. I think she's always been game to. To get involved and to go back in. It's been how many years now? What, nearing five years since BB23. So.
Rob Cesternino
Wow.
Puya Zam Kuya
Enough time has passed that you're like, you know what? I'd do it again even if you weren't down to do it.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
Plus, I just. I think that for me, Per. And this might be a little bit of a bias pick. I think she has such a mind for this game and we've literally watched her talk about this. We've watched her. You know, she once upon a time joined one of our games, Rob, that we hosted over here on this network and killed it there too. So she's someone I've wanted to see for a long time. So I would love to see her get back in the house again.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah. I think it's been just long enough and, like, she's kind of entered, I think, sort of a newer phase of her life that, like, it. It could be just at the right time that she might be like, if they. They reach out to me, like, yeah, I guess I would. The question I think would be, would they reach out to her? I obviously think she should absolutely go on again, but I do think she is in a tough position where she's part of a season that has a. Is very, very heavy in terms of people that might be in front of her in the line.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
That's the only reason I didn't pick her in the first round, because she's on my list. And I will say, I think, like, her winning the Amazing Race, like, gives her, I think, a good amount of confidence that, you know, hey, I can do something. Reality TV is for me, but I don't think enough people watch the Amazing Race, you know, my favorite show. But it's fine because. And that will, I think, help, like, not have such a big target on her. So it's just. This is my pitch for Claire. But, yeah, I just. I don't think that currently maybe it's an option.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. She just posted on social media that she was so excited for Big Brother 28 and the live feed updates coming back.
Puya Zam Kuya
Hey, she's lulled you into a false sense of security.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
She's not on your list.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. She's trying to get in good with Taryn.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah. She, you know, she wants the good impressions.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. That would be exciting for Claire to come back. I'm interested about the big brother 23 of it all to see. I think it's an interesting group to talk about and I'm interested to see how many other big brother 23 people come up here in this discussion. And Claire would be, you know, it would be a great pick. I guess she. If she. I think she would be up for it.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, I think so.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Be exciting. All right. All right. So there's one alternate. Who's your other alternate?
Puya Zam Kuya
Puya Rob. Every now and then, you know, some people get to have the blessing of having their birthday happen while Big brother's going on.
Rob Cesternino
Yep.
Puya Zam Kuya
This man got to turn 25 in that house. So with my next pick, I'm going with the one and only Joseph onto my team. Thank you very much.
Rob Cesternino
Yes.
Puya Zam Kuya
I think Joseph was a lot of untapped potential. Really took to the game, I think narratively speaking with his cast. Also, Taylor is our winner. He is like her right hand man. So him getting his chance back, I think I could see that he had a great showing on the Amazing Race, was so absolutely beloved on the Amazing Race. So to me, this is a slam dunk. But it's also a hard pick for me. Fellow Brown, once again in the house. I'm not gonna be mad at it.
Taryn Armstrong
I'll take it.
Rob Cesternino
So, yeah, okay. Yeah, I could see Joseph coming off of his run. A second Amazing Race person or a third Amazing Race person picked, but second from the Big Brother Amazing Race. And of course that we saw this great relationship with his brother and how he's a caretaker to his brother and so Joseph would be very exciting. How old would Joseph be now?
Puya Zam Kuya
You know, I tried to do the math before I made my pick. I couldn't figure it out. Like, let's add four years maybe he's about to be 29.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Oh. So prefrontal cortexes, I think you would
Taryn Armstrong
turn 29 in the house.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go.
Rob Cesternino
Yes. I'm. My bad Sam has caught me in the chat. There's the fourth Amazing Race person, the Tucker, Angela, Joseph, and then Claire.
Sasha Joseph
Honestly, all things Amazing Race are great. Look at that.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Everybody watching.
Rob Cesternino
I think that what this is saying is put Vince on the Amazing Race period.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Okay.
Puya Zam Kuya
Could be there.
Rob Cesternino
All right.
Sasha Joseph
So he sleep.
Rob Cesternino
Any other thoughts on Joseph coming back?
Taryn Armstrong
I'd be. I think. I think his. His run on the Amazing Race does put him in contention. I don't think he's somebody that necessarily I would have thought of top of mind, but I think him on the Amazing Race was so, like, wholesome and fun. That. And I am also generally thinking around, like, what was the Amazing Race cast, who's been on the Traders, Stuff like that, I think does matter. Yeah. And. And so I do think Joseph is probably in the mix.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. All right, back to me. Sixth pick overall. And I don't know if this is a popular pick for some. I do think it's somebody that they would love to have back. And so I'm gonna go with the most recent America's favorite player. I say Keanu.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
Great pick.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Keanu brought a lot of drama, brought a lot of energy to Big Brother. He has a fan base. The people who watch the television show certainly would be psyched to have him back. Could you imagine Keanu in the house with Angela?
Sasha Joseph
I like it.
Rob Cesternino
You could see him as a captain.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, very much.
Rob Cesternino
He would love to have, like, his team, his group.
Sasha Joseph
I love.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Did he.
Taryn Armstrong
He ended up getting cast on the challenge, right?
Puya Zam Kuya
Oh, I believe so. I believe he did.
Taryn Armstrong
I don't follow the challenge enough. Has that season aired yet?
Puya Zam Kuya
I don't think it's aired yet.
Taryn Armstrong
No.
Sasha Joseph
No, I don't. No, it has.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah. No, I. If I remember seeing rumors about him, I believe he did end up going on the show. I believe it's filmed. I don't. It's not been.
Rob Cesternino
But it's all in the same Paramount umbrella. And so we see Big Brother people go to the challenge. I don't know if we've seen anybody from the. The challenge, then come back and do Big Brother after the challenge. I know that in the All Star season. Right. Josh and Casey were supposed to come back.
Taryn Armstrong
They were supposed to be there. Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
So it seems doable.
Taryn Armstrong
Certainly. Yeah. I was mostly just thinking in terms of, like, when is it going to be filming, but I'm guessing it's already been filmed. At this, timing wise, it probably works out. And listen, I think we know Keanu would want to do it. He is an America's favorite, which, as I mentioned with James, I think is a good indicator of being a returning player. So it would be kind of surprising, like I said, with Angela, like, if we never saw Keanu. And he is, I think, also the kind of player that you could bring back right away because his experience in 27 was at one of an outcast. He would be coming in and playing a pretty different game, I would imagine, as a more popular figure coming in.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Would he listen to women this time?
Taryn Armstrong
Hopefully. Who knows?
Rob Cesternino
Who knows?
Sasha Joseph
Who knows?
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah, I think for me, when we. When I heard about this idea that we were doing, the two people that stood out put him in marker were Tucker and Keanu, because they're number one and two on that wish list for cbs, in my opinion. And him being the most recent, him being America's favorite, and I think, narratively speaking, it does make sense to put him in there, and I could absolutely see it. I think this might be the steal of the draft.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
At six.
Rob Cesternino
Taren, have you watched any of the promos that are coming up for the season of Big Brother?
Taryn Armstrong
A little bit, yeah. There's, like, a little, like, logo thing where it kind of cycles through all of the Big Brother logos over the years. And. And like I said, there have been, like, little bits here and there that people have been like, oh, does this mean returning players? Like, does this mean that they're, like, gonna be celebrating the history of the show? And it is. At this point, it's like, I feel like they do that every year.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that they have a milestone coming up in that it will be the 1000th episode of Big Brother this season. I don't know exactly when on how close we are to that, but it's not a big anniversary season in either the year or the season number in terms of Big Brother, but people have speculated that could be some sort of, like, look back through Big Brother history. Although all of the returnees we're talking about are from the very recent Big Brother history.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
It doesn't. Wouldn't surprise me that even if we do a historical theme, that most of the cast will be from the last, like, four years.
Taryn Armstrong
Right?
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah, it's true.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. All right, Sasha.
Sasha Joseph
Okay. I have two options, so. But it's fine. It's fine. I think I'm gonna go stick to the America's favorite player theme, and I think I'm going to go with Tiffany.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. It's. That's a really interesting pick.
Sasha Joseph
I know, because in my. Again, this, I think, is a heart pick where, you know, Tiffany. Tiffany has been on shows. All right. You know, again, very popular. Destination X and. And I'm wondering, did she talk with Dan and did they, you know, have this, like. This is my fan fiction. You know, have like, a great conversation about the game and. Oh, Dan, but you won. You screw the traitors. Like traders did us both dirty. It's fine. We got to come back home. And Tiffany just has a story that is still unwritten and not finished, and I just feel like she has so much to Give. And as a coach, are you kidding me? I will mow people over to get on that team.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. So I think it's a really, really great pick to see Tiffany come back. The only question I have is that the crossing the networks in that she is on a. She just filmed a show that is airing on NBC. And then a lot of times, like, I could speak to, like, my. You know, the contract I had to sign to do the Traitors that I could not do another reality show from whatever many months after the ending of the show. I don't know if that's the same for Destination X and I don't know if there would be any sort of flexibility there. Could she do it? I think she's one of the few people who I would put. I would consider to be a Big Brother legend who would come back and play a full season of the show like Rachel did. I think that that's a. That's a small handful of people that would do that. I. I just don't know if it can work out with her doing this other show.
Taryn Armstrong
She should be perfect for this exact spot that we're kind of theorizing of, like four players return. It is the perfect spot for her. But I'm with you, Rob. She just did the Traders on Peacock. She's. She just filmed Destination X which is on Peacock as well on NBC. So I think she's still probably enmeshed in that ecosystem and would not be able to get to Big Brother for a summer.
Rob Cesternino
I hope she's there. I. I like. It would be incredible.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah, she's also. Yeah, she's also someone I would classify as. Put her on the list. That wasn't the last time we saw Tiffany on Big Brother. Like, whether it's. Again, can't be. This season will be another season.
Rob Cesternino
I think you could bring her into that same spot that you brought Rachel in last season where she's the only returning that comes back.
Taryn Armstrong
She thoughts in it.
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Anywhere you want.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, Exactly. Exactly. This 100 is more of a heart pick. Like, I just want to say I paid liked her, so that's why we're here. Yeah. And I'm. I'm not mad at it. In my heart. They changed the rules for Tiffany. That's.
Rob Cesternino
Change the rules. Come on, you cowards.
Sasha Joseph
Let's do it.
Rob Cesternino
Come on. Paramount buy Peacock.
Sasha Joseph
Why not? Yolo pressure. We gotta put on.
Rob Cesternino
Come on.
Sasha Joseph
Do it.
Rob Cesternino
All right. Just give us one app. One app that has everything.
Sasha Joseph
One app to rule them all. I like it. Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
Okay.
Rob Cesternino
All right. Puya I'm sorry.
Announcer
No.
Rob Cesternino
Taryn. Taryn, we go to. Taryn has two picks in a row now.
Taryn Armstrong
I do, I do. This is exciting. I think I actually have my next pick on the board still available to me. This is primarily. I. I kind of came in wanting to build out a team of people. You know, likelihood of coming back, maybe a little bit of a stretch, but I think possible, and I definitely want it to happen. And so, Vince, my number one pick. My number two pick, Rob Daniel Reyes.
Sasha Joseph
Okay, good one.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah. Give me Danielle. Listen, I think the Traders, it has been like. It's like a gateway drug, but for, like, relapse for reality contestants. You can attest to this. Rob, Dan Geesling, Danielle Reyes, all of these people who were, like, kind of like not doing reality shows. The Traders entices them in, especially Big Brother players, and then it says, no, we're spitting you back out. You're not designed for this show. And then people like Dan Geesling now doing Destination X with Tiffany. I think Danielle Reyes now has such a. A massive profile. Like, so many people know who she is and hate her because they're casual trader viewers and they're dead wrong. And so it's like, what, Danielle, what do you got to come home? Come home to where we love you. Do another Big Brother season. It would be massive. It would be a massive get for Big Brother because, yeah, you know, Traders, people would be like, oh, it's her. And. And I think. I think she might be willing to do it because it's an. It's a chance to kind of like. Like get back some of what she might have lost on the Traders.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Imagine Big Brother, like, goes completely 180 degrees from Survivor, where survivors like, Carolyn, you can't be on Survivor 50. You were on the Traders. What if Big Brother's like, hey, what if Traders is a microwave? Okay. What if it takes our people, he gets them real hot, and then they come home?
Taryn Armstrong
That's exactly what happened with Rachel. Yeah. And that I. So there's precedent for, and it worked super well.
Rob Cesternino
So I. I don't.
Taryn Armstrong
That's why I don't think this is impossible, and I would love for it to happen. Imagine Daniel Rey is playing with Vince, right? Like, oh, oh, my God, no, don't
Sasha Joseph
do that to her. Vincent, you're out. Danielle, you're in.
Rob Cesternino
But do we have any interviews that Danielle has done? I feel like that Danielle does not want to play 90 days of big brother in the year of 2026.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah, I don't think she's inclined to. But again, it's like, Danielle, come. Come on home. Just give us your. Give us some 90 days. We'll rehabilitate your image a little bit. You know, Queen Danielle, like, I know you want it. Come on.
Sasha Joseph
I also had the privilege of talking to her, I think fresh off the Traders when Bryson went in San Francisco. Right. And it was truly such a fun time to talk to her. And I was like, girl, what? Like, come back to big brother. What are we doing here? And. And I think she heard and there's like, these legends that are in June Song's camp of, you know, abridged version or only winners or only, you know, X, Y and Z. So I think that Danielle might need, I think, a little bit more of like a. Everyone's a threat. So I. I'll. Come on. I. It can't just be me, but I'm with Taryn. Like, one, come on home, baby. And two, I think enough of these, like, influencer young people types might not know her that she could attack again. You know what I mean?
Rob Cesternino
I didn't know who Rachel was exactly.
Sasha Joseph
Any.
Taryn Armstrong
Any of these chat gpters. They're only going to know her as the. The woman that was really bad at lying on the Traders because the Traders didn even edit it as well as she played. So, like, you know, I think they're gonna underestimate her in that sense. And also, I feel like I have to imagine a lot of these alumni watched what happened with Rachel. She went on the show and I would say was a controversial figure in the fan base and kind of comes out much more beloved than. Than ever before. Things went poorly for her, but, like, in terms of reputation, it was so good. And I'm seeing Rachel everywhere now. She's got all kinds of gigs. Like, it's. It's been great for her. I think this is a great spot.
Rob Cesternino
Okay.
Puya Zam Kuya
And I think that, you know, as far as. Because we did talk about how we're assuming a lot of our picks, obviously show recency bias, I would still say Danielle's always going to be on the radar and has been. She literally was there for the shrink ray, so I don't think they've forgotten about her at all. I think this would be a great pick. And I think if you're gonna pick one person from the quote unquote, old school, old era, Danielle's not a bad pick at all. In fact, should be in the top, like, two picks.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Manifest it. Okay. All right, Taryn, you go again.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah. Now this is a tough One. Because I've got. I've been back and forth on a few options. Really. There's, like, there's one that I think is a little more likely, one that I like the most. But I mean, I. I would love to. I would love. Here's the thing. I would love to say one of my picks, but I just don't think they would say yes, so I have to skip on them. So instead I think I'd go. I think Derek X. Okay, let's take the other. The other Derek L. Derek X. He. They pulled him for Reindeer Games.
Rob Cesternino
Yep.
Taryn Armstrong
And, you know, I'm. I'm looking at his Instagram. He's kind of just chilling. He's, you know, I don't know if he's. He's doing a ton right now.
Rob Cesternino
Does he want to play Big Brother for a summer?
Taryn Armstrong
I think he might do it.
Sasha Joseph
Derek would go on Desk. Like, DX literally would go on Destination X.
Rob Cesternino
Yes.
Sasha Joseph
Before he would Big Bro, he was on my list. I want to be clear, but I think this is another, like, production with love.
Rob Cesternino
We would be psyched.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah. But it is dx about it.
Puya Zam Kuya
He was in one scene since BB23 on the big Brother Realm, and that was when he passed out at the sight of that one person during the Reindeer Games and he stole that scene.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
So you'd be a very fun pick. Now, I will say, I feel like we've seen Claire get involved with a lot of things. Many of those times we've seen DX in the background be like, I don't care about what's going on here. So, like,
Taryn Armstrong
he does not care the way Claire cares.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, right.
Rob Cesternino
But I don't.
Taryn Armstrong
Would he pass down a paycheck like. Like, if they were like, hey, come on. Come on the show. Get some more profile. Like, I feel like he'd be down
Rob Cesternino
if they sent a van and kidnapped him. I think maybe.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
Or they said it was a different show and he didn't realize until half the way.
Rob Cesternino
I didn't know it was this show. No, no, no, no. Let me out.
Taryn Armstrong
Unfortunately, Liz, I feel like I had two picks to fit because I think obviously they're gonna pull one comp beast dude. And. And Vince is technically a comp beast. But, like, I'm talking, like, they want somebody a bit bigger and. And Tucker are like the go tos. I think even Joseph slots in there. And I won't say it now, but there was one other person I was thinking of that, that I genuinely think could be in there. But. But I thought maybe I'd go, Derek here first.
Rob Cesternino
This really is funny when we're talking about trying to cast Big Brother returnees because we just went through this with Survivor 50 for three years of talking about who would come back and almost every single person, I think 98% of the survivors that you talk to, like, would you come back for 50? Like, I don't care. I'll come back anytime, anywhere. You know, the survivors, like, are you sure? Are you sure? Because, like, you don't look like you're in such good shape. Like, I could do it, no problem. Big Brother people, it's like anybody outside the last two years, it's like, very dubious if any of them would come back.
Puya Zam Kuya
It's really.
Rob Cesternino
I think maybe on one hand maybe you could have the people from like the first, like 20 seasons of the show that would come back and do it again.
Taryn Armstrong
I think. I think reality's having a little bit of a resurgence and I don't think that Big Brother is almost anybody's first choice. But if they don't have a ton of other options and Big Brother comes calling, I feel like they'd be down. I feel like a lot of people, even though they say no, I think they would actually come and be like, you know what, Maybe it's worth it.
Rob Cesternino
Maybe they show people the money, which I think historically has also been an issue.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah. Big Brother 28. I didn't have anything better to do.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Okay. All right.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
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Sasha Joseph
I live in California.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
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Sasha Joseph
Yeah. Any other teas we want to pick? No, I'm just kidding but I think Tiffany and Tucker. Yes, I think a tnt maybe I pick an end but my team, I think is shaping up to be like, not wrong, just early. So I don't know. I don't mind that at all. So I think that I'm also gonna go a little bit old school and there few options here. I'm hoping this other person comes back to me. If they don't shoot. I would like to pick someone that I think is a bit of a mastermind, you know, was screwed on his season. And I feel like it is. Is a ball of energy again. I don't know what happened, but I listened to that podcast and. And it's giving call me. My phone may be on. And we're picking summer of sign Eric come back back.
Taryn Armstrong
That was very nearly my pick, but I. I backed out last second because I was like, I think he'll. I think he would actually turn it down.
Sasha Joseph
I don't care.
Rob Cesternino
Could you imagine what a life we'd leave in the Big Brother house where Eric came back? I mean, the door was. We thought it was closed forever. And then that it was really the. The highlight of the Big Brother 27 finale for many of. Wait, hold on.
Taryn Armstrong
What is this?
Sasha Joseph
That's what I'm saying. I just feel like he was just screwed enough on his season. My first season I ever watched and it's just. And this whole like, America's player comes back but wants to do it on his own or is screwed again and is America's player again. I'm just kidding. Don't do that, Terry. But, you know, it's just. I think he has a great story and this mastermind thing, you know, did it wet his beak enough? And I'm also thinking, because if I'm going for the W here a little bit, if he's not on the show. But will he come back at least for the thousandth episode? High possibility.
Rob Cesternino
Oh, interesting.
Puya Zam Kuya
Or we can counting.
Taryn Armstrong
Are we counting guest appearance cameos?
Sasha Joseph
Yes, it's for a cameo, so why wouldn't you count a cameo? Yeah, so it's just. It's giving thousandth episode guest appearance at least. And you know what? I better get a half a point or a point for that. So that. That's what I'm doing right now.
Rob Cesternino
It would be so exciting. It would be so fun. I just. I'm not 100% sure that Eric would do it over the course of the summer. I think that part of him certainly would want to, but a part of him would say, what am I doing?
Sasha Joseph
Exactly.
Rob Cesternino
What am I doing? Like, I'm. I'm a dad. I have Two kids. Like I'm a, you know, have you
Sasha Joseph
seen college prices, Eric, Come on. Yeah, let's help pay for your kids calling.
Rob Cesternino
So it would be wild.
Taryn Armstrong
I was so close to picking him just, just to go Danielle Rey's Eric Stein back to back as like wishful pick fix. But he's on my car.
Sasha Joseph
I figured, I thought Rob was about to get him, so I said, I gotta, I gotta do it again. I'm just going for not wrong, just early. And eventually he'll come back. He'll come back home.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
He orbited around in my mind. But similar to. And I will announce it right now. I will not be picking Caser on here because we're at that stage in my life now where I'm like, I cannot get my hopes up with something and get disappointed. So if he happens to be there, I would love for Sasha to get the cameo. I would love that to happen because I'll be happy. But I couldn't get myself to put him on my team and just get my hopes up.
Taryn Armstrong
I. I excluded anybody that was on 22.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, I, I didn't even put Case there because I said I can't handle it.
Puya Zam Kuya
I just didn't want to pick him and then talk about how he's going to be pre jury again and just get mad all over again.
Rob Cesternino
So, yeah, I think when I made my list, I was looking for people either that we know that the show definitely wants them back or they definitely want to come back. And hopefully it's both things.
Taryn Armstrong
Things.
Rob Cesternino
I'm not 100% sure they want Eric back. And then also I'm. I'm not 100% sure that he would want to come back. So I just feel like that there's too many, too many question marks there.
Sasha Joseph
Maybe there's a fan vote and I win that.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah, I feel like he'd be more likely to get the invite to an all Stars anyway, rather than like a 1 in 4. For as much as it was fun to see the spot that he was in, I don't know that he's a big enough pull to. To be like one of four people that we're including on this cast for like a more casual traders esque audience. Okay.
Rob Cesternino
All right, so I am gonna go here with somebody and maybe this is like a little bit of a wild card, but let me see what the room boom thinks I'm gonna go back to the Amazing Race. Well, and I'm gonna go with somebody who I think was maybe not the biggest star in their season, but Somebody who I think has untapped potential. And I'm gonna say, who's here for some conspiring with this B word? Cat done.
Taryn Armstrong
Oh, I did consider Cat done, but she's one of those people that's just. I've seen her tweet too much about.
Rob Cesternino
About the returnees, but she doesn't care. No way. She would.
Sasha Joseph
She'll do anything.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, yeah.
Sasha Joseph
If anyone is gonna break those kinds of rule, it's Cat.
Taryn Armstrong
It's very true.
Rob Cesternino
I'm just trying to think of, like, who are people that. That they were just. They just called them for the Amazing Race. Case. She's always fun. She's gonna be good on the live feeds. She's gonna give them a lot of fun stuff in the diary room that I think the production really likes her, so why not?
Taryn Armstrong
And she agrees.
Rob Cesternino
She would do it.
Taryn Armstrong
Oh, yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
Oh, for sure. Yeah. Without a shadow with that. She would do it. See, my only other thought is, and I do not think that Big Brother 21 has been painted with the same, like, big weather. 15 is gone. Right. Like, ain't nobody coming back from that. Season 21 is not quite there, but it's probably the next in line to be excluded if there's a lot of other people to pick from. I'm not mad at this pick because I think this is a good pick. I think that I'm more so thinking, would she be on the short list? But I think the. Like, to your point, the Amazing Race appearance does up that stock for sure because that shows that that door isn't shut.
Rob Cesternino
They just called her for something. I don't know if I'm necessarily sold that there's going to be four returnees. Like, maybe it could be more. I just think that if we're looking for people who they would want back who would say yes. Like, I think that the list is smaller than we would think. And I think that she would be somebody who would be like, maybe not top of mind, but somebody who I think would be a great pick for them to make. Okay. All right. Puya
Puya Zam Kuya
me.
Rob Cesternino
It's two in a row.
Puya Zam Kuya
Back to back to round out my team. I'll be honest. I've lost the plot, quite frankly, because I'm looking at what's left and I don't quite know what direction I would go with. Can I ask a technical question before I make my next pick, if that's fine? Are we under the belief that. That if they are around, as of right now, it's already too late. They would not Be in contention. Like, would they been scooped by now?
Rob Cesternino
No, I don't think so.
Taryn Armstrong
No, I don't think they're scooped yet.
Rob Cesternino
I. Probably next week in July.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
Okay. All right, then. Perfect. I'm gonna continue. I'm gonna go on Copium, then I'm gonna keep going on my. My Copium team. I just imagine for me, there's three names on this season that are surefire returnees at some time. Right. Two of them have been picked off the board. I think this person has made it here to me because all of us are under the same belief of been very active. You're not saying. You're saying a lot online, and we don't think you're gonna be on there this season, but in the event that we get another summer where Morgan and Vince can be on the same season, sign me up for more God, please.
Rob Cesternino
More God, yes.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
I'm a fan.
Puya Zam Kuya
I'm a fan. She. Listen, she's hella active. She's currently live on Twitch as we speak. So I. I know she's busy doing her thing. I know she's. She's talking about how excited she is.
Rob Cesternino
Get her reaction. Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
Let her know. Yeah. I think that, I mean, Morgan would be a phenomenal pick. I've gotten to talk to her about not just Big Brother, but traders a lot during your season, Rob, and she's just. She's built for these games and she would do it again. Again and again and again.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah, she'd. She'd probably be one of my number one picks if she wasn't currently streaming on Twitch, which doesn't disqualify her, but there's usually like a winding down before they get pulled into sequester that we see. And so, you know, it. It. It does feel unlikely unless she's really working hard to make it seem like. Like it's not happening.
Puya Zam Kuya
Listen.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
And like, if anybody's gonna work hard, we know it's gonna be more and
Sasha Joseph
do the most before the end.
Rob Cesternino
She's gonna do the most.
Puya Zam Kuya
Like, she's. She's currently watching older seasons. Like, she's done the homework.
Taryn Armstrong
She.
Rob Cesternino
She'd be a great pick.
Puya Zam Kuya
I'm just saying, if they haven't finalized it, she's right there. You gotta consider it. For sure.
Rob Cesternino
Yep.
Puya Zam Kuya
All right.
Rob Cesternino
Get all those clips from the Twitch streams on the slop again.
Taryn Armstrong
Be great.
Rob Cesternino
Do it.
Sasha Joseph
Are becoming friends. Right? So another, like, oh, here's what not to do on a returnee season.
Puya Zam Kuya
Okay.
Rob Cesternino
All right. We're three rounds in. We've got four picks left. And Puya, you will start a fourth and final round.
Puya Zam Kuya
You know, this is bittersweet because when we do a draft like this that's so open ended, any pick you can take anything. So I've been do. I've been off copium. I'm going to just continue doing that and, and kind of, you know, fight back against the own point I made. Rob, when you picked Angela and being like I don't see this archetype being someone who's going to be there if it's just four people. But I'm gonna go ahead and just pick Felicia and put flesh on my team.
Rob Cesternino
I think I would have picked her next if you didn't take her or me.
Sasha Joseph
So. Boo.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah, Mr. B.
Rob Cesternino
Can we get a Ms. Felicia this
Puya Zam Kuya
summer please and thank you.
Sasha Joseph
Faith of a mustard. See that's boy.
Rob Cesternino
The faith of the mustard seed. They brought her back for at least. How many times did they brought her back in the last. Bring her back the last two seasons for host comps.
Sasha Joseph
I know for sure she hosted that one.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah, she was like literally the theme of one of the comps.
Taryn Armstrong
I think she's been back both seasons, right?
Puya Zam Kuya
Oh wow.
Sasha Joseph
Okay.
Taryn Armstrong
Maybe, maybe just as a cameo for one of them. But she. Yeah, she definitely hosted the one. But I feel like, I feel like we got a reference to her at least in the other as well.
Sasha Joseph
She has to come back on the pod though. You know what I mean? Like she gotta come back, take her tooth out again. I'm ready. So I don't want her in the house. I want her for us.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah, I did think about Felicia. I, I think that Felicia is another one that's maybe a little bit more suited to like an all stars call than a one in four players call. And you know, I'm doing a lot of assuming there in terms of both that assumption and the assumption that it would be a 1 in 4 players. But that, that's, that's why I didn't end up picking her.
Puya Zam Kuya
But.
Taryn Armstrong
But it. She is another player that's like surely at some point, hopefully like in All Stars we get some Felicia.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. All right. My final pick, my fourth pick here. I, I was torn. I could have gone a couple different people, but I'm. I'm really surprised this person lasted to pick 14 in the draft. So I have to do it. It. Let's get, let's get the quinions. Psych. Let's give him something. How about Quinn to come back?
Sasha Joseph
Great pick.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah, he will be there yesterday yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Be fun.
Taryn Armstrong
Definitely. An easy get, I would assume. Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Do it. He'd do it.
Sasha Joseph
Everyone wear yellow.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
He'd be excited to have him.
Sasha Joseph
No, you're active. Good. Correct on this. Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
I, I thought about Quinn the. So. So my thing about Quinn and basically like the Quinn archetype is that it's so competitive. Like there's just so many of that exact. And. And they all are very different people and players, but I don't think casting usually thinks that way. So like, I wouldn't necessarily say Quinn and Corey can't be both be returning players, but I think casting would probably way.
Rob Cesternino
Right.
Taryn Armstrong
And so that worries me in terms of like, because they might even throw like Vince into that category or even a Joseph Rodriguez.
Sasha Joseph
Right?
Taryn Armstrong
Oh, certainly. And so it. It gets to the point where it's like, oh, man, this is. It's a competitive market there for that spot and if that spot even exists in a 1 in 4.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. But I think that if, even if it was a competition, you know, I think that they would. They would take Vince over Quinn, but I don't think they necessarily look at them as the same thing. And like, I don't know if you had two men and two women, I. I think I would. It would be a struggle to see it be Vince and Quinn as the two male returnees.
Taryn Armstrong
But another reason I didn't pick Eric.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah, I think that's. Quinn would be a fun one.
Taryn Armstrong
I agree. I think Quinn would be very fun. I think there's a baked in story there of my HOH is sucked. I need redemption.
Puya Zam Kuya
Redemption big time.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Yep. Okay. All right, then we go to Sasha and then to Taryn with the last pick.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, I wish we had five picks, but it's okay.
Rob Cesternino
We get to a bonus round of just one other person.
Sasha Joseph
Okay, great. Because then let me leave my chaos pick for the end. I think this is. Again, I'm between three, like badass women right now. And again, you know, y' all keep telling me everyone I pick is not coming back, but at this one, I'm doing 1000th episode picks, so who knows? But I think, because I think this person like Loki not has been forgotten, but I think has like done like interesting work after Big Brother that maybe could come back. I think, like, is the dude bro Slayer and I'm thinking Jess from BB21.
Rob Cesternino
Okay.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah. It's just. I don't. I don't know that if it's like only four that she's coming, but it's just. Again, I just Think she's such a good character, such a fun story. Won an HOH when she needed two. Iconic sound that it's used all the time. Right when her ass fell down. Bless her. We love you, Jess, but it's. And putting JNJ on the block. Right. It's just. I think that's enough good stories. And then, you know, her podcasting as well, and she's been right in these, like, fan streets, so I just. I want her there. And it was really between her and Hannah Chada. So again, like, which I don't know where Chada is doing, you know, with med school and all of that. So I just. This is like. I wish she'd come back.
Rob Cesternino
Jessica Milagros, right?
Taryn Armstrong
Yes.
Rob Cesternino
Yes.
Taryn Armstrong
I think. I think it's a great pick. I do think that 21 is a season that they probably wouldn't love to touch. Obviously, they brought back Nicole, but she was like, yeah, David. And David, right.
Puya Zam Kuya
Taryn, he's right there.
Sasha Joseph
If David can come back, anyone can come back.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yo. David's biggest claim to fame is how much Melissa thought he had potential and was rubbing it in our faces. Then he came back. Oh, my God.
Sasha Joseph
Camp come back. But this time it's just for Jess. Also, OV was on my list. Speaking of camp.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. All right.
Taryn Armstrong
I feel. I also feel like, for what it's worth. Worth. I think that if they would. If they do pull from 21, I think it's tough to compete against Christie in that spot as well,
Puya Zam Kuya
though.
Taryn Armstrong
I don't know if she'd be down.
Puya Zam Kuya
Right.
Sasha Joseph
She's not coming without Tommy, right? No, Christie.
Taryn Armstrong
Christie.
Puya Zam Kuya
No Rob.
Rob Cesternino
I said, what about Tommy?
Sasha Joseph
Exactly.
Taryn Armstrong
Certainly. Well, I'm in terms of, like, women slot.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
Right.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah. I. I think I see them as a. They know each other. Right? Like season, like pairs or something. The reverse BB4 where you actually. The person you're paired with.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. All right, let's hear Taryn's last pick, and then we'll do one an off the wall pick.
Puya Zam Kuya
All right.
Taryn Armstrong
Oh, man. Okay. I went. I have another. I have another, like, wish slot. Then a slight wish. Slight realistic slot. And then the more realistic slot. I think I'm gonna split the difference. I'm gonna say she did get a shot on the Amazing Race. I don't. Don't care about competition prowess here. Give me Izzy.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
Okay. There we go.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. You guys.
Taryn Armstrong
I. I would have been very pessimistic about Izzy's chances if she hadn't made it on to Amazing Race because as we all Know, she was severely under edited on Big Brother 25. I think that, like, if she were to ever get the invite back, I think this is, like, the time to do it because she has a little bit of momentum from Amazing Race, where she lasted quite a long time, and she was a pretty popular character on there.
Sasha Joseph
And folks want to, like, see her redemption after watching the Amazing Race.
Taryn Armstrong
Exactly. And it's close enough to BB25 that you still remember her, and it wouldn't be like a weird pull. So, like, you know, if it's ever gonna happen, I do think it kind of needs to happen now. And it's like the. The stars are aligning, and I'm like, let's. Let's make it happen, you know, I. I hope so. Danielle and Izzy.
Rob Cesternino
Okay.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, my God. Don't.
Rob Cesternino
All right, we've got through four rounds. Taryn has drafted Vince. Oh, oh. We got the card up.
Taryn Armstrong
Okay.
Rob Cesternino
Vince.
Taryn Armstrong
Vince.
Rob Cesternino
Danielle Reyes, Derek X. And Izzy. Sasha has drafted Tucker, Tiffany, Eric Stein, and Jessica Milagros. Rob has drafted Angela Murray. Is that the right one? The right Angela?
Puya Zam Kuya
Yep.
Rob Cesternino
Angela Murray, Keanu, Kat Dunn, and Quinn. And Puya has drafted Claire Joseph Morgan and Ms. Felicia. Okay, now let's. Let's go back from the. The back up to the top. Let's go to Puya. You want to do, like, I. I would say I have like one. One real one and one wild card.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, same.
Puya Zam Kuya
Okay. And. And these don't. These are not part of our pick.
Rob Cesternino
Look, if you hit it, you hit it, you know?
Sasha Joseph
Yeah. Listen, yolo.
Puya Zam Kuya
But we don't have to do two
Rob Cesternino
more rounds of the draft. Draft.
Puya Zam Kuya
I would say, like, I would want this person on my graphic. But that being said, I feel like we've. We've talked about America's favorites a bunch today. This is someone who I think a lot of people are like, why isn't this person been picked it. Cameron would be a pick I think you could realistically see on their short list. They did. They brought him back immediately for Reindeer Games. Although I'll be. And then he left immediately also, so I could see them giving him an opportunity again. And then if we're going full boss to the wall, I'm so bummed because Izzy was the pick I wanted.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah.
Puya Zam Kuya
But I'm gonna stay in that season. I'm gonna stay in that season, and I'm gonna pick me America Lopez.
Rob Cesternino
That'd be exciting. Okay.
Taryn Armstrong
I was thinking like a BB13 style returnees. Corey in America feels like a pretty lock that in.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yeah. If it's a 13 style for sure.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. Sasha, get a real one and a wild one.
Sasha Joseph
Okay. I'll go wild first because I'm locked in on this person. Puppet master Raven. Okay.
Puya Zam Kuya
Amazing.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. Does she come back with Matt?
Sasha Joseph
No, Please. That. Let my queen live.
Rob Cesternino
Okay.
Sasha Joseph
She's gonna come back with all her ailments. That's the. Her partner. And each just again. I just think this. This meme. This character has been lost. I feel like every time we do a Big Brother draft, I picked Raven in some way. I've like, shoehorned her in somehow. So, like, please. You know, it just needs to hit. So I love her. I think it's. She's so delusional. It's exactly what we need. And it's what Big Brother is missing. Like this kind of just. Just a crazy, crazy person. A safe, crazy person. Yeah. And maybe a bit realistic. A bit still outrageous. Brittany Haynes.
Puya Zam Kuya
Yep.
Rob Cesternino
You know, when we're talking about that the Traders microwave. I mean, what better example. Would she do it? Would she come back and do it? I don't know.
Sasha Joseph
I don't know. Confessional Queen. Thousandth episode pick for sure.
Taryn Armstrong
Brittany was on my list. I couldn't get. I couldn't put her with Danielle because I don't think they'd put both, even though that'd be still pretty funny.
Sasha Joseph
Imagine.
Taryn Armstrong
I think she. I think she'd be hesitant, but I think she might do it.
Sasha Joseph
Listen, my Tulsa Queen, what we got going on back home? Nothing.
Rob Cesternino
Sasha, I love how you're hyping up this 1000th episode when it's just gonna be like some random, like, 90 minute power of veto. That's like a cliffhanger to, like, the next episode we're gonna see who uses the veto.
Taryn Armstrong
They're trying to break the Guinness world record for the amount of slime in a TV show.
Sasha Joseph
No, they're gonna apocalypse. They're actually gonna ride bananas. And it's gonna be all of, like the major eras of Big Brother that they'll, you know, kind of travel. Space travel through.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
And. And our. Then we're gonna have cameos of all our all stars. They.
Rob Cesternino
Okay, all right, let me. I'll give you my real one and then wild one. Real one. I'm gonna go with Kyland.
Sasha Joseph
Oh, I like it.
Taryn Armstrong
Kyland was on my list.
Rob Cesternino
I. I could see him certainly as a captain and somebody he could have. I could see him with a team. You're looking for somebody who's like a comp beast to be one of these roles that if you want to have like a. Like, I could definitely see him as being big brother 23 representation. Like, if. Especially if you want to have something, somebody from the cookout. I think he's probably maybe the most likely of the six to end up coming back, I think so. I'm worried about Tiffany and her contract status, so I think that Kylan would be a really fun pick and then my off the wall one. Okay. Not a. Not a huge name, but somebody who I think that we said at the time we definitely could see them coming back. How about young Cedric?
Sasha Joseph
Oh, I believe. Bless him.
Taryn Armstrong
I feel like on the challenge, yeah,
Sasha Joseph
he did pretty well, and I think.
Puya Zam Kuya
Did he go back again? I think he was cast on the season that Keanu's on, so he might belong to the challenge now. Rob, he might not come back.
Sasha Joseph
Yeah, Like, I think he's, like, actually challenged.
Rob Cesternino
I think he had a lot of potential, and I think that he, like, get him back. Get him back. Big Brother. You're gonna lose him.
Taryn Armstrong
He's gonna be a good one.
Sasha Joseph
Such a.
Rob Cesternino
He's a good prospect.
Sasha Joseph
I, I, again, such a good chaos pick. I like it. Yeah.
Rob Cesternino
Okay. All right, Taryn, what do you got?
Taryn Armstrong
All right. The realistic one. I was, I think, realistic that I. That I didn't put on my list. Mackenzie.
Announcer
Interesting.
Taryn Armstrong
26. 26 Mackenzie. She went very far. She made a big error in taking Chelsea to the end. There's a storyline baked in there. We saw Cody come back back in a similar fashion eventually known as mj. Mj, Yes. I think you. You could bring her back. I think she'd be willing to do it. I've seen her, like, talk about her decision a bunch of times, and, like, she's still, like, sort of in that mix. She was a huge comp beast and people would remember who she was. And I think that there's a realistic chance that she could come back
Announcer
with
Sasha Joseph
her brother or no boy.
Taryn Armstrong
And then the pick I really almost made alongside Eric Stein. Me, Jen Johnson.
Rob Cesternino
Jen Johnson. Wow. That was on my list. Was she rumored to be back for something?
Taryn Armstrong
She was rumored to be on the Amazing Race cast.
Sasha Joseph
That's what it was.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Sasha Joseph
I couldn't pick Raven and Jen, so I said, which one do I go?
Rob Cesternino
Yes. Okay. Well, that would be a genius move for the Big Brother producers for sure.
Sasha Joseph
How would her picture look? Would they mess it up even more?
Rob Cesternino
Oh, they would.
Sasha Joseph
Would they add more shadows like a la Love island, you know, where, like, their pictures are really terrible? I think they hired the Love island photographer just For Jen.
Rob Cesternino
Yeah. All right. Well, you got me thinking. Where are the Love island pictures?
Sasha Joseph
Oh, like when they announced them. Sorry, that's what I mean. Like, they just look a busted mess and then you see them on the screen and you're like, wait, this is like a hottie. Why did the picture look like that?
Rob Cesternino
Yeah.
Taryn Armstrong
All right.
Rob Cesternino
Well, that's our Big Brother draft, and this was really, really fun. Looking forward to seeing what the response is to our picks and certainly who we might have missed. We'll be checking that out in the comments. Taran, I know you're working on some more Big Brother 28 preseason content. What do you think? Maybe next week for that?
Taryn Armstrong
Yeah, tune in next week. I. I've talked to Chelsea. I plan to talk to a few more winners very soon. So we'll be releasing those, I think, like twi twice a week for the next couple of weeks. Some instructional, but also, like, I think just in general entertaining and fun discussions with, with some winners who have recently played the game, who are, like, up on the latest of like, the AI arena generally and the, the. The blockbuster. And like, what is it like to play Big Brother now? What are the best strategies? How do you go in? I think it's a. It's some fun conversation. Okay.
Rob Cesternino
Sam's saying Tuesdays and Thursdays as we get closer to when the Big Brother cast drops in a couple of weeks. All right. Until then, Puia, what else is coming up for you?
Puya Zam Kuya
Well, Rob, we did get the announcement that New Blood Traders Season 5 will be coming in September.
Rob Cesternino
But how many months? Three months from now?
Puya Zam Kuya
That's not much. That's not much. And in between that time, Rob, there's a lot of traders.
Rob Cesternino
One 90 day fiance away.
Puya Zam Kuya
Speaking of 90 day, find me talking 90 day over on the Hot Mess Express. And a lot of traders. Traders New Zealand. Right now, myself and Annabelle have been breaking down the season. It's been very fun. We also talked about the cast of Australian Traders Season 3, the revival there. We broke that cast down. So that's available for you to check out also. And I know there's going to be more Trader seasons coming. Ireland is going to be this summer. We still have Celebrity uk, uk, Canada. There's. We're going to be busy to the gills. But that's not going to take me away from Big Brother because if Taryn will have me back, I'll be there every Friday. Life Feed update. We're gonna be kicking it off. It's gonna be a good time. I cannot wait to lose my summer it's gonna be phenomenal. Okay, totally here for it.
Rob Cesternino
All right, looking forward to it. Sasha, what's coming up for you?
Sasha Joseph
Yes, as always, check out if you want the mess. If you want to know what's trending on the Internet and why and a quick, quick spark notes of it all. Check out mess magnets, oh, messmagnets.com and maybe something else coming up soon too, but not ready. Okay.
Rob Cesternino
All right, we'll stay tuned. And then Taryn, what else is coming up for you?
Taryn Armstrong
I've got Patreon where I'm watching shows, the latest of which Rob, I got, I, I, you got dragged into this. I also got dragged into this. I'm watching Love Island. I've been watching it. I'll be watching it probably up until Big Brother starts. And really the, the entertaining part seems to be how miserable I am while I watch it for people as they watch me be miserable watching it. So if you enjoy my misery, you can find that over on my patreon on. And of course, thank you to everyone who bought my book. It's now available in paperback and it became a bestseller. So thank you so much, Taryn.
Rob Cesternino
I'm looking forward to the Love island stockwatch.
Sasha Joseph
Sincere, insider, trinity, all tens.
Rob Cesternino
Yes. Okay. All right. And thank you so much for joining us. I did talk about Love island with Kirsten and Scally. You can check out all of the the daily Love island coverage that we have going on over on. We started a brand new YouTube channel for the love shows. Go to we know dating shows.com for all of that. And then we've got a lot of fun stuff. Chappelle and I are watching Survivor co wrong this month. So check out all that and much more as we count down to big Brother. Take care everybody. Have a good one.
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Date: June 18, 2026
Panel: Rob Cesternino (host), Taran Armstrong, Sasha Joseph, Puya Zam Kuya
Episode Theme: In anticipation of rumors that Big Brother 28 will feature returning players, Rob, Taran, Sasha, and Puya hold a mock draft predicting which former Houseguests are most likely to be called back. The episode is full of speculation, inside jokes, and deep cuts from BB history.
The RHAP crew dive deep into Big Brother speculation, betting on who production will invite back for BB28. With rumors swirling of a returnee twist—possibly captains, a few veterans, or even an All-Stars—this episode is all about drafting the best possible "returning player" team. Stakes are set: the winner of the draft will be declared “best RHAP podcaster” via a Big Brother cameo. As always, the episode is packed with strategy, banter, and a keen eye on both fan favorites and production logic.
[Draft Segment Begins: 10:44]
| Panelist | Picks | |---|---| | Taran | Vince Panera, Danielle Reyes, Derek X, Izzy Gleicher | | Sasha | Tucker (BB26), Tiffany, Eric Stein, Jessica Milagros | | Rob | Angela Murray, Keanu, Kat Dunn, Quinn | | Puya | Claire (BB23), Joseph, Morgan, Ms. Felicia |
[Draft Summary: 71:01]
[Bonus Segment: 71:43–78:27]
The show is as much about having fun speculating as it is about being “right.” There’s lots of good-natured trolling (“not wrong, just early” as a recurring gag), panelists pitching production, and running jokes about contract clauses and wild reality TV resumes. The off-topic moments—like Mindy Kaling conspiracies or using the 1000th episode for cameo points—keep it lively and full of RHAP’s signature “friends talking TV” energy.
If you care about both the likely and the hilariously far-fetched returnee possibilities for BB28, this episode gives you a balance of sharp game analysis, lively banter, and the joy of BB fandom. The draft reveals both the pulse of the community and the unpredictable preferences of production—and delivers plenty of laughs along the way.