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episodes Thursdays only on Peacock. What's up fam? We are back for the first, I guess panel discussion for Big Brother Unlocked this season. Last what? Two weeks ago I was here with Taryn and Rob. As they passed me the reins to talk about this show. And I think the headline of tonight is that Big Brother Unlocked is good. Question mark. And so to talk about that with me, I brought this amazing panel. I guess I will go first with my co host in many things in life, Jenny Autumn. Jenny, welcome back. Welcome for the first time, I guess.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah, I, it's. I, I don't understand what, what I'm doing because I thought that I was like, I thought this was very fitting for me to be here because it's like the, the useless thing that, like, you know, no one cares about, but it turns out it's good. So I'm like, I'm actually very honored to be here. I was anyway, I just came to hang out because I was like this, this is a Vibes panel. I'm, I'm very happy.
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This is a Vibes panel for a Vibe show. And with me, I guess with us joining us for this panel, we had to go to a fellow chaos demon, my sibling, Izzy Fields. Welcome, Izzy. What up?
Izzy Fields
You know, I'm so happy that they saved the pre jurors for the Unlocked episodes. You know, really, they're like hard hitting. Many follows, you know, like. And follow. Yeah, I'm stoked to talk about this. I'm actually so happy to talk about this episode. It's probably the only episode of Unlocked I'm going to watch. No, I'm kidding. Because of the Jason segment. So we'll get into it. But I'm like super happy that they did that and so I'm happy that I'm here to talk about it, honestly.
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Yeah. Thank you for joining us and thank you to the chat for being here. I see people are popping and I didn't really expect that because last season we talked about Big Brother Unlocked and we were like, this ain't really. It's not giving us what we needed. You know, people have their complaints this season. This season they're holding it hostage. They're saying, look, you can't know about the powers unless you watch Unlocked. You get the family visits on Unlocked. Jenny, is Unlocked good?
Jenny Autumn
It could be too soon to say. I will say it makes me uncomfortable watching it, but that, you know, therapy would probably teach you. Sometimes it's good to feel uncomfortable. You might learn things. And I feel like we learn things tonight night. We learned things about, about, you know, stuff that's going on in the house that's not being shown on, on the show regular. We learned some things to come. I, I truly do feel like you'll miss things if you don't watch BB Unlocked.
Izzy Fields
So it.
Jenny Autumn
It could be good, but a little. Still a little uncomfortable.
Recap Kickback
Yeah. The chat's saying greatly improved, and I probably agree with that. But, Izzy, you mentioned it already. We got the Jason story. The. The family visit, I guess, or the big brother version of that. You wouldn't have got the Jason story. Is he, as you not come here? So I think for that at least, Big brother Unlocked was good this time.
Izzy Fields
Yeah, I think, you know, I won't take credit for this take. I saw someone bleed this. But I totally agree that, like, what it feels like a lot of the content we're getting from this just used to be in the episodes. Like, I don't know why. Like, to me, I've stopped, like, kind of. I mean, I'm watching the episodes while the season, you know, is airing, but, like, it's actually kind of hard to watch the episodes if you're watching the live feeds, because the episodes just feel so empty. I went back because I was excited to get pumped for this season, and I watched season 26. I watched season 27 again, and it's like, actually watching the episodes while you're not watching the live feeds, it's, like, way more enjoyable, you know, and stuff like that. But so I just feel like a lot of this, like, I didn't learn, other than the powers. Me personally, didn't learn anything new from this because I watched all those segments in real time. So funny to like, have this show and then also still be promoting, like, yo, feeds are popping. You know, and, like, you should watch the feeds this season for sure, if you're not, you know, but. So I think that's funny. But, yes, I was super thankful for the Jason segment. Yeah.
Recap Kickback
Yeah, we can start there. Go ahead.
Jenny Autumn
Oh, no, I was just gonna say, I just still feel like I don't fully understand who the show is for totally. And so that's, like, the identity crisis of it. That is what I'm struggling with. Exactly. Like, what Izzy was saying about, you know, a lot of. A lot of the stuff you would know already from following feeds, except for, like, the preview of the. Of the powers and the family stuff. Like, but so is it for the feet watchers? Is it for the Die Hards that are seeing all of this stuff, like, the. The con, the creator content? We'll talk about it. Obviously, like, there's stuff that I'm like, okay, are we trying to get casuals to, like, veer into, like, more of the super fandom? I just don't fully understand who it's for. Are the casual Sunday, Wednesday, Friday or Thursday viewers also watching Friday? I don't know. So that's where I'm just trying to figure out, like, who is the show
Izzy Fields
for And Friday every other week.
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Yeah, every other week.
Jenny Autumn
Good luck trying to keep track of this, you know.
Izzy Fields
You know what I am keeping track of? I'm just gonna say it right up front because, like, I don't care. We going non linear here. Have you noticed? Has anyone else other than my sick in the head person self been keeping track of, like every guest and new person that they've had, you know, has been. Other than Rachel Riley? And tonight, a little bit from the Kelly Wentworth TikTok, and I guess you could say the Jason segment, but everyone else has been a white man. Everyone else. Everyone else. So Howie, Dr. Will, Jesse, Jerry O' Connell's permanent, they had Ross Matthews as a host. They said they boosted that TikTok.
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That's a dude.
Izzy Fields
That's very funny, but it's like, you could have done better. I love Robin Taryn, but Robin Taryn, that should be there. You know what I mean?
Jenny Autumn
Didn't even mention Chappelle.
Izzy Fields
Didn't even mention.
Jenny Autumn
You know, I was waiting for it, then they said the slop. I thought they were gonna mention Chappelle next. I was like, it didn't get that good.
Izzy Fields
The only woman they had, they killed.
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They let a dinosaur push her into a volcano. That's a really good point.
Izzy Fields
Izzy. Get that off my chest. You know, it's like, you know, it's upsetting and like, with this.
Jenny Autumn
Well, it is the time travel. So we are. We. We could be traveling to a time where we might not be able to vote. I don't know.
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Right, Exactly.
Jenny Autumn
We'll be able to vote for the time capsule. Sorry, women.
Izzy Fields
Sorry.
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I think. I think that's a really good point because you definitely have, like, moments where Rome is saying things like, yeah, I hope Lyric gets vot it out so I could be her big strong man. Izzy, I was dying to ask you, what did you think about that portion?
Izzy Fields
Segment started and I picked up my phone to write things down, and then I put it down. I was like, I ain't writing nothing down. This is trash. This doesn't deserve, you know, like, Florence doesn't deserve any of my energy, any of my time. That. It's crazy because, you know, like, we're always, you know, we're at least for me. Right. I'm always thinking about, like, just the lack of queer representation on this show on many Shows. But Big Brother is really, like, a big culprit of this. And, like. But then to see how the straights, like, talk about, like, straight relationships and, like. Like, does Lyric have any say in any of these life choices you've just made for her on this stage? The baby she's supposed to make when she goes home? Pre jury, like, what are you talking about? Like.
Jenny Autumn
Like, it's barefoot in the kitchen now.
Izzy Fields
What is the message we're trying to do? You know what I mean? Like, so, yeah, I was. I was a little bit sick to my stomach, you know, like, it's like, yeah, yeah. Milan just gets no love from me. I don't know.
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Listen, you gotta stop. I think you're making really good points, though. I mean, because historically, the women have carried Big Brother, okay? Carried Big Brother. If you talk about the names on the Mount Rushmore, like, yeah, you got Dan and Will for, like, the strategy portion. But the characters that keep you coming back, the Janelles, the Taylors, the Davons, the Tiffany's, you know, like, Rachel Riley, Vanessa Russo. These names, you could just list them out. So bring back the women. Bring back Vanessa Russo, please.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah, well, and it's also, like, and Morgan together.
Izzy Fields
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But it's, like, crazy that we, you know, we see men use, like, different types of emotional manipulation, you know, in the house. Lyric was even talking about it in the feeds to Chuck about being like, well, I felt kind of like held hostage by Rome, just, like, continually confessing my love. Like, what am I supposed to do? You know? And I think that's true. Yet he doesn't see that actually, like, Lyric has been done going to work. Like, you know, Lyric is doing her own thing. Like, I'm a lyricist. I think she gets it, you know? Like, I think she maybe she doesn't, like, can't turn the instincts of how to maneuver between these idiot men, like, into strategy. But she is doing it like, we are watching her try to find a home post Rome. I'm really proud that she didn't vote for him to stay. Like, what a boss, you know? Like, I'm proud of her for that. I think that means something. I think Taylor should have really framed her, you know, Taylor should go to work on that.
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But, yeah, so, Jenny, that's. I want to. I want to talk about that a little bit, because when they asked Rome about Lyrics skills in the game, he didn't sound like he was too bullish on her abilities. Even though we have been seeing another side of her watching the feeds. What did you think about that?
Jenny Autumn
Okay, Rome's answer pissed me off on many levels here.
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One.
Jenny Autumn
Obviously it's. It's insane of him to hope that Loki say that he hopes she gets voted out soon so that he can like get her back. Like, why are you saying, like, I'll wait for you and then you're just like, basically like a week. I'm not wait for you. But listen, hurry up, please get voted out. Like, root for your woman to win. Bring some money home.
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Right?
Jenny Autumn
That's how you can get her to be a housewife. Let her retire.
Izzy Fields
She can't be successful, you know. Right.
Jenny Autumn
Like that pissed me off.
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It's.
Jenny Autumn
I understand, like, not wanting to give the obvious answer of like, oh, like, I think that lyric is the best player. But what drove me crazy about his answer to this question is, I don't know. Then this is where I don't pay enough attention to does this film. Right after the eviction episode, shortly after he.
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He sounded like he didn't know what was going on in the house. You know, they do do that moment where they show him the tool shed and he seemed legitimately shocked. So I don't know, Jenny. I. I don't think they let him seen anything. I think they want to kind of keep those surprises to get his genuine reaction.
Izzy Fields
Oh, but just meaning like that there's not a lot of time after. But like, yeah, interview, like, right.
Jenny Autumn
I'm trying to get the timeline here
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because Scott says Thursday night pretty much right after.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah, okay. It felt. Because I think Ross was wearing like the same thing as when he was
Izzy Fields
on, you know, like, okay, shirt.
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Yeah, that lime green. Yeah, I see it.
Jenny Autumn
Yes, exactly. So we have to give some more name dropping of Rob Cestrinino and Taryn tonight because Rome, in his exit interview with Rob and Taryn today gave an entirely different name because he says Haley is playing the best game in his answer to Jerry and Taylor and Derek.
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Yeah, he stood by it. Yeah, Bottom left. He said he still thinks it's thog.
Izzy Fields
Yeah, yeah.
Jenny Autumn
But then today he said kamu.
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No, I think he was. I think he was still on thog, wasn't he today?
Jenny Autumn
I swear to God. Am I. Did I listen to a different exit interview?
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Oh, I didn't listen to the exit interview. I didn't realize you were talking about that.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah, he said. He said Haley. And then this morning or whenever he spoke to Taryn and Rob today, he's. But he had the exact same, like, line of what? Why? Like, he said exactly the same things. About that. He said about Haley on lock tonight, about karma. And I'm like, what do you. Can you stick to anything? And you're still not picking. At least you, when Taryn, I think, posed the question, said, okay, besides Lyric, because obviously you would think you would be rooting for. You think that your. Your lady is the best player. And you don't even have to give him that precursor. He's not going to say. He says, get her out.
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You know what? Saying. I'm pretty sure it's one. It's where he. He's asked the question, he answers it, and he doesn't get a big reaction. People aren't like, oh, yeah, you'. So he's like, okay, it's got to be somebody else. It can't have been. Because when I said it earlier, nobody really looked like I was on to anything. They looked at me like, I'm dumb. So he's trying again. The problem is off base. And if you're gonna be way off base, at least say your girlfriend.
Izzy Fields
Well, yeah. Well, also, like, just a little, like, insider. Like, I'm sure when he filmed that, he didn't know who was hoh. Right. Because he didn't know anything anyway.
Jenny Autumn
Right.
Izzy Fields
You go back to your hotel.
Jenny Autumn
He has his phone. By the time he does,
Izzy Fields
I knew who was hoh the night I got evicted.
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You know,
Jenny Autumn
You look so smart.
Izzy Fields
Exactly. Like, it's giving that. It's giving. Like, oh, I learned something new. And so now I'm gonna say that. You know what I mean?
Jenny Autumn
Anyway, listening to that. But then watching this, even though that happened first, I was like, what is he talking about?
Izzy Fields
Oh, my God.
Jenny Autumn
He just called her, like, he said that she's unbearable.
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She said he had small balls. You know, so maybe he's trying to. Maybe he's trying to fix it. Yeah.
Izzy Fields
So talking about thog, right? He called her a. He can go, okay, he's out of here. Yeah.
Jenny Autumn
He's trying to, like, correct that. He's like, oh, I would never say that. I didn't I say I wanted her, that she was the best player?
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Right? Like, no, who did that last season? Was it Zach going around being like, oh, I think Ashley's dumb? Did I say she was dumb? I think that maybe she's smarter than she's letting on. So I wouldn't be shocked if that's what's going on here. We got Jerry o' Connell kind of groped him a little bit. I think it was. It was a little lusty. But aside, you know, he did the hair thing to him.
Jenny Autumn
Because he did that to Quinn, remember?
Recap Kickback
Oh, he did. He did do that to Quinn. That might be his thing.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah. The one non. Or I guess it is, canonical episode where Jerry had to step in for Julie to host was the Quinn eviction episode. And I believe that he also had to touch Quinn's hair. But I understand, like. Like, I think Quinn. No offense, Rome, but I think, like, Quinn's hair is, like, a little bit more iconic than Realm's hair. Like, I don't really understand, but maybe he just feels like, oh, I just do this all the time. I'm just touching people's hair.
Izzy Fields
When are we just gonna admit that this is, like, the homoerotic summer we had? Love island, my big brother. Like, when are we just admitting it, you know?
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Like, just say the words, you know, like, yeah, we. We saw Jerry twerking. He was throwing that ass twerk fever in the house. It's. It's running rampant. It didn't. It didn't hit Derek Levasseur. He said he's. He's vaccinated, and for that, I appreciate him.
Jenny Autumn
I don't know.
Izzy Fields
I feel like it was giving Kamu a little bit.
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Oh, like, I could never. I don't want my image.
Izzy Fields
My body doesn't move like that because I'm a man.
Recap Kickback
Meanwhile, Jerry throwing that ass. You know, we saw Angela also doing something like that. Angela did not look so great. She was throwing that back. But, you know, the twerk fever was going throughout the house. We got some fun segments, you know, some things that, if you're watching the feed, you might have seen some of these things before we. Also, before we get away from Rome too much, we got a fan Cam Jenny of the Rome and Lyric relationship. Lime is done, y'. All. We don't have to keep doing this. Lime is over.
Izzy Fields
Why'd they subject us to that? That was torture. That was so bad.
Jenny Autumn
I recoiled at the. I love Japanese culture so much.
Izzy Fields
Like, we all know where this is going.
Recap Kickback
Yeah. Hopefully we're able to put that to rest. I'm hoping that Lyric goes far in the game one because, you know, I'm rooting for her. I've been seeing some chops this week, but also because it would be way funnier watching him outside the house, you know, really hoping that she doesn't fall into the arms of someone else or even win, because we know he's really hoping that she gets voted out. Pre jury, so all go up for Team Lyric for just a while. Lyricists, stand up, Stand Up. Yeah. Lyrics to stand up. So we mentioned Jason a little bit earlier. Izzy. We go to Manila, Luzon in California, you know, former what Drag Race All Star, Manila, Luzon. And she kind of gives us her first hand take on Jason, AKA Selena. And we got to see what the drag queens thought about Jason playing the game and his big moment with Angela. Izzy, I know you really appreciate this moment, but what did you think about it?
Izzy Fields
I just, like, I'll just like, never stop saying it. That it's like anyone that goes into that house and, like, is singular, you know, just. It's like unimaginable how lonely it is, right? And how, like, just, like, ways of existing, you know, like, culturally, right? Like, queer culture. Like, Jason is surrounded by people that have, you know, are in the same community as him. And it's like, even just to react that way, it's like, yeah, he's a drag queen. Like. Like, have you. None of you have seen Drag Race? You know what I mean? Like, none of these people have any sense of what the vibe is, but it's like, yeah, you're a performer. You're always these things. Like, you're vulnerable. But on Drag Race, when there are vulnerable moments, then they say, okay, bitch, you also stupid. And they move on. Like, they, you know, like, they make a bit out of it. They, like, snap themselves back. It's this. It's like the gay equivalent of the guy, like, slapping himself in the face and doing a push up. You know what I mean? It's like, get your head back in the game. Like, you know, I, you know, I wasn't crying for crying sake. I was. You know, it's part of this game. Like, I think it was like, it's masking vulnerability when you don't feel safe being vulnerable. Like, that's what the mistake is. Telling somebody. Everyone does that. All want to talk about your beloved Dan Giesling. He does the same exact shit. Why are you mad at Jason? The only reason Jason is because he spilled his guts. Dan kept all of his emotional manipulation to himself, which is like, that's how you use it. You're telling me Angela doesn't emotionally manipulate people? Like, get off your fucking people that are coming at Jason like that, refusing to understand context or nuance or anything like that, you know, Like. Yeah, so that I think is like, I'm so happy that they, like, highlighted that in a little way. And, like, the queens reacted the same way I did, which was like, I laughed and I was like this fucking diva, you know, like, when you see that when you're like, oh, I was crying and like, well, now I'm gonna use her. And it's like, duh, because you're playing big brother, you know, the mistake was spilling it. I just will never get over that, you know, And I just. Yeah. And I just will say this because it's been, like, festering. Is that, like, at the nomination ceremony, when Angela was coming, sort of flipped it back at him and, like, you know, I think you don't really care about him because if you did, you would know not to throw something like that back in his face. That moment with you talking about your son and connecting with him, you know, that was real. You can have. Two things can be true at once, you know, and if you want to be really powerful, like, don't use that against him. Use that in a manipulating way, just like he is, you know, right back at you. It's like, what made me feel really sad is that something was being attacked in Jason. That Lyric is using that Rome is using that. Barrett is using, you know, this flirtation, this like. Or, you know, the version of using your sexuality in a way that you can or whatever, just whatever. Emotional manipulation. But it's not a safe environment for anyone to stand up and defend Jason. Right. Because he's alone. No one else is going to defend something when it's like, oof. I. Like, I agree that maybe this is wrong or that he's being targeted for biases, but, like, you don't want to
Recap Kickback
get your head chopped off.
Izzy Fields
Exactly. And that, to me, upsets me, you know, because different people in those situations have backup, you know, and people have, you know, I don't know. So it just makes me really sad. And I just. When it comes to people that are singular, I just wish the fans had a little bit more nuance. Like, they are begging the show to have, you know, so you can think about why, you know, like, you love Fields. She literally thinks about every interaction afterwards. What was the motivation? Why would they say that? You know, And I think, like, you have to view this also, like, what are the experiences that are. People are coming into this house holding and what is attacking those experiences? And maybe that's why people are reacting a certain way. And, yeah, we're well aware that we're on camera, you know, like, it's embarrassing to be so vulnerable. Frankly, as someone that was super vulnerable on their season, I'm proud to have shown that. I'm also, like, so embarrassed, you know, so all that is like, oh, my God, look at me, you know, so it's like all of those at once. And I just. Jason is playing a terrible game, but not for the reasons that people are mad at him.
Recap Kickback
Right?
Jenny Autumn
Yeah.
Izzy Fields
Like, yeah. So I'm writing for Jason and I'm happy that. I'm happy that CBS tried in that way, tried to show. Give a little bit more context and nuance. You know, I wish casting was different, but it.
Recap Kickback
The family visits. First of all, Izzy, well said. The family visits are like. Or the back home segments. That's. That's classic Big Brother. People say they want old Big Brother, but Jenny, it doesn't look like they can have old Big Brother because that's something we would see Dr. Will doing. That's something that we would see Danielle Reyes doing. That's something we could see Dan Gizan doing. But when we give you old Big Brother, you want to punish this man for doing this. What's up?
Jenny Autumn
Yeah, it's. It's a complicated thing too, because it's like, you know, there, I think. I think where it's really. It's really hard to say because you don't want to speak for too many different people. Everyone. Everyone's like, internalization of this can be very different. I think that, you know, a lot of people bringing up, like, the Matt Hoffman, like, you know, lying about his wife. And it's like, I think that what messed people, some people up is that, like, there is truth to some of the things that Jason was saying and doing. There was, like, reality to those feelings, but then the, like, the perceived weaponizing of them. And I think that that's what kind of, like, hurt people in some cases where they're just like, oh, this is kind of a real thing. And they didn't understand, like, how that could be real. And they don't. They're choosing to use it that way. And I think that that's what. Where the separation to, like, things. Things like a doctor will or like a mat making up a completely fabricated story. I think that that's where, like, some people are kind of getting. Having complicated feelings about it. But I honestly believe, like, I think that Jason did say to Angela at one point, like, you know, like, the tears that I shared were real. And like, I truly believe, again, I'm not going to get ahead of myself psychoanalyzing another person, especially another person that has greatly different life experiences than I have and has gone through things that I have not gone through. But I just know from, like, experiencing difficult things of my own in life, there's like, this little moment of like you catch yourself being vulnerable and then you're like. That was so like exactly like, I just really felt like that was, you know, what was happening and what you're getting to Izzy with like the, the, the looking at the camera. As much as it's like a, ooh, it's a TV moment, it's a gotcha moment. I also sort of feel like there's an underlying kind of like, oh, I just had to get myself back together for a second, like caught myself slip in kind of thing. Right where I think that that's also playing a part here. And I, I think on both sides, I think they actually both do like, and care about each other to a certain degree. And that's why there's so much misunderstanding. Because there's hurt.
Izzy Fields
Yeah.
Jenny Autumn
Because there's feelings. But yes, I, I do think that this is old school Big brother and it's messy and it's complicated and it's emotional and it be. I don't know, people are just gonna have a lot of different like feelings about it. And yeah, I'm not here to say how anyone should feel about it, I guess is how I land on it, but that's what I do think it is. I think it is like a partially a self protective thing.
Izzy Fields
Totally. I totally agree. You know, I'll say one thing about the spilling of it, which I think like connects to what you're saying, Jenny. And it's like I also like, I just feel for Jason trying to figure out how to acclimate to different social groups in the house. You know, like we have not seen him be super successful. Right. And like, I want to give a little bit of, I don't know, empathy for the spilling of it because I think he was. That also feels very drag workroom. It feels very like, oh, I. Let me try to connect with these two that I know kind of like to gossip and have good banter. Let me tell them this like, Kiki thing that I did and like, who we could just like, hehehaha.
Recap Kickback
You gotta have your messy friends. You got to.
Izzy Fields
Exactly. You know, and so like I think that was just a bad read. But I also think it's just like the, the trick of Big brother is like you can almost say anything if someone is gonna buy it, but no one wants to buy what Jason is selling. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like if someone else in the house, like, I don't know, even if a Drew spilled to someone that he was like, oh, I pretended like I was really upset about this thing and everything. I think the bros would be like, I think, you know, I think it's also contextual for the way that they are interpreting it from within the house. And I just. Jason is alone. It's like, yeah, it's like crushing anyway.
Jenny Autumn
And that's why it's great to have these like, family or like loved one segments to get context of the person outside. And I just love just hearing people's commentary about the show as it's airing. Like that is the one unique thing about Big Brother compared to like a lot of the other shows is that, you know, you can hear from these people's like, loved ones and friends and family while it's going on and their live perceptions of things as it's happening without being able to actually talk to them. And I just think that that's like a really interesting and unfiltered thing. And I did really appreciate that we got to see that for Jason here and that we had a whole segment because it really does give more context that you're not getting.
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Jenny Autumn
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Izzy Fields
Well, I. You know, I'm conflicted about that because, like, I have, like, a beef with, like, I have a beef with, like, the culture of BB of, like, every little fucking thing needing to be named. You gotta name it, name everything. I almost think, like, that's what's gonna get the crossovers in trouble is like. Like, week one, you don't know anything, you know, like, and you just, like, maybe there are reasons, right? I think Drew and Barrett were, like, a little fan girly, and so I get it, right? And so they were like, okay, I'm gonna get comfortable with them. And of course, the vets are like, oh, great. Some people that want to work with us, great. And then all of a sudden, they, like, tried to make this thing that's so solid, and it's like, you don't even know each other, right? And so, like, I just. Not that I'm supporting more Survivor Strat, but I love that Survivor just sort of admits that, like, things will be fluid and there are reasons why you would want to be, like, voting with someone or a group of people and then not. And, like, you know, it's about individual relationships. If you've wronged something. But it's not like you took out the crossovers alliance. It's like, who fucking cares? You know, Angela wants Drew. Of course Drew's gonna want Angela. You know what I mean? Like, let's just. So I. I think names get in the way. And frankly, I didn't want to name anything. I was just in these rooms, and then people are naming things, and then it's like, well, I think that's gonna get us in trouble, but you can't say no, right? So I think there's a kind of, like, you can weaponize the forming of something, you know? And I worry that. I mean, I think Angela was trying to do that. I think Angela's, like, totally trying to weaponize the fact that she's named a bunch of things, you know, Like. And so, yeah, so that's, like, my beef with it is, like, it is hard when you feel like, well, we could have just agreed that we all have the mutual interest of voting out Tuscany, and then, like, you can. And then you can, like, go about your way afterwards or whatever, you know? But they lacks like self awareness. That's like part of it. So it's like, that's never gonna happen.
Recap Kickback
We used to call your alliance the Fields, you know, with you and Jared and family. Yeah, but y' all didn't name it that. Were you in any unnamed alliances in your season?
Izzy Fields
In any unnamed alliances?
Recap Kickback
No named alliances because I can't remember what were your named alliances? Because we just called each other Fields.
Izzy Fields
Well, I mean, like misery. Jared and Corey were crossroads and then there was legend. 25 to appease that.
Recap Kickback
Come on. 25.
Izzy Fields
And then. Yeah, I don't know. I went. I was like trying to look something up and I saw my big brother wiki page and There were like 19 names Hawaiian. I was like, what? Like what?
Recap Kickback
Some had a final two.
Jenny Autumn
Did they have you and Cameron piggy pal?
Recap Kickback
Yeah, I forgot about them.
Izzy Fields
For me, the strategy, like, I like the Survivor strategy that's kind of happening where it's like an alliance. Like Russian dolls of alliance. Right. An alliance with hitting within a larger, Larger, Larger, larger thing. I think on paper, the tool shed. I do hate saying that out loud, but the tool shed has the possibility of being really good for the vets or like any subset, you know, any strong subset of that tool shed, you know. But then when you start branching out, it's like you need an enemy in Big Brother because who else are you going to nominate? Like, that's also where people get in trouble, I think.
Recap Kickback
You know, you can't be aligned with everybody and power. Jenny, you hate the Toolshed.
Jenny Autumn
I don't hate the tool shed, but I totally agree with Izzy about like, too many Nate, like, we've got. The naming has gone the way of like the shout outs in the diary room. It was like, it was cute at first and I was just like, we don't need to do it all the time for everyone. And it's like, you don't need to name every. And the Survivor comparison is. Is correct. Like, I don't think that every single alliance in Survivor is like having this conversation being like, okay, and what's the name? It's like, I get it, but it loses its. Its like allure to me when every alliance, fake alliance, like sub alliance has its own name. It's just like, I don't. I kind of feel nothing now. Like, I'm not excited about. I'm not. I'm nothing it.
Izzy Fields
And well, because, like, they're not. Because that's how big Brother is. They're not exactly playing like that. You know what I mean? Like, I, you know, for so many reasons, the cookout was so dominant, but what was so brilliant about it was, like, it didn't actually function like an alliance, you know, like, functioned like the reality of it was they were functioning really separately, you know, And I think that's, like, the case. Like, I don't think, like, a super dominant alliance. Like, you know, a large numbered alliance at this point in Big Brother would be that successful. You know what I mean? Like, Big Brother, people have learned to at least use the word strategy. You know what I mean? Strategy, you know, but, like, you know, they know that that's a thing, and so I think, yeah, whatever.
Jenny Autumn
And the cookout is a good example of, like, where I think that that's, like, a good name like that, and, like, you know what I mean? Like, like, I'm not saying no names. That's a, that's a perfect example of where it, like, makes sense. And it's like a great name. It's purposeful. It.
Recap Kickback
You hate the name. You hate the tool shed.
Izzy Fields
A handyman after there's already been french fries in that pod.
Jenny Autumn
But here's the thing is, like, I don't hate the connection of the tool shed and the handyman, and I think it's, like, crazy for Derek, of all people, to be like, like, hating on that with, like, oh, yeah, because the alliance names from your season were just like, chef's kids. But I, it could be worse. I, I, I don't know.
Recap Kickback
I, I do miss the days where we had multiple. Yeah, but, you know, I missed the days where we would have, like, the alliance that kind of defines the season. Right. Like, now it feels like everybody, every two, a lot, everybody has an alliance. Every two people have an alliance. But remember the days when it'd be like the sovereign six versus the friendship, you know, like, you could just kind of, like, pit those allian your head, right? You can pick a side. And this just feels like everybody's on everybody's team, and so it's hard. It's definitely hard to track. I don't really hate the name the tool. The tool yet, because I like, I like Drew being like, we're all tools because I don't walked out because I'm not, you know, like, I don't know.
Jenny Autumn
I don't know.
Recap Kickback
You. Chuck was like, I'm a tool. I was like, yeah, Chuck, you might be.
Izzy Fields
But, like, I, I'm always called the tool.
Recap Kickback
This normal. This is what I, too, have been thinking about this since I was seven. So, yeah, I personally wouldn't have gone with that. But, yeah, we get a couple other alliances on here. Angela trying to make the alliances with Dee and Lala and Taylor. You know, good to see Lala and Angela finally kind of getting on the same page. But I think you're right, Izzy. A lot of these alliances, once you know the names of them, you can really go out and out them. You know, you can create a fake alliance and then just go, oh, yeah, I know they're aligned because I was there. So, you know, let's target them especially
Izzy Fields
because, like, every season of Big Brother, you know, like, all of these, right? Like, Survivor really says, like, you are building a society and figuring out what to. But, like, that's the same with Big Brother and the fact that Devins has set the precedent that someone can out your, like, out their people in a safe setting, they think, and then automatically be like, damn, you told me everything. Now I got to nominate you. Like, I think that, like, actually opens the door for that being okay on the hoh. Like, it's oftentimes on a season of Big Brother, the first person to do a ballsy thing. That potential. I mean, this was a more complicated situation, but I think if someone was going to get blood on their hands from doing that, it would have been Devin's. He's clean from that because Angela is a mess. And so. And so now I think actually, like, anyone. Drew can use that, you know? Like, I think. I think Drew and Barrett together potentially could use that against tool shed people or whatever, you know, anyone they want. Really? I don't know.
Recap Kickback
Yeah, right. I did not see the vote for Bibi Bad Ass and Bibi Dumb Ass. If I only want to miss that. Jenny, did you.
Izzy Fields
Did you vote again?
Jenny Autumn
Who for? I don't know. I mean, I'm not on Facebook these days, so I don't know if they've got Facebook groups for this shit. I don't know where I. I don't even believe that this is a thing. Where are they doing this on the website?
Recap Kickback
They must do it in person.
Jenny Autumn
What?
Izzy Fields
They pull that?
Jenny Autumn
Like, 15 people in the studio at the little bistro tables, like, what are you doing?
Recap Kickback
If you think Angela's a badass. Okay. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
Izzy Fields
Oh, I can't see back there.
Recap Kickback
So we get everybody. Yeah. I didn't know this. I. I knew we were voting for the power, but the. That was just random. It was like. And then also Big Brother just coming out and being like, this person is a dumbass. I really thought, like, how do we get Here.
Izzy Fields
I hated it.
Jenny Autumn
And then they're like, oh, oh. Like, we. We just call this person a dumbass. But, like, okay, time to humanize them. Like, like, with this package.
Recap Kickback
But they're our dumbass.
Jenny Autumn
It was a very confusing thing. Was this a thing last season? I literally watched this last season. Like, I. But I just. I block out this from my memory.
Izzy Fields
That says it was an IG poll.
Recap Kickback
Oh, Instagram poll. Okay. Yeah. And I think they did say that in episode two. Yeah. So now. Yeah, so now we got you. Make sure you're following the Big Brother. You gotta. You gotta follow the Big Brother. Social media, they've been getting.
Izzy Fields
Devices are connected. You got to be on everything when you're watching Big Brother.
Recap Kickback
Yeah, I'm voting this time. I. I definitely gotta vote this time. I wonder. Wrong. Still gonna be. Yeah. I got a couple people in mind for my baby dumbass this week. I. I don't know. I feel kind of bad calling them dumb asses. You know, like, hey, man, that's kind of rough. But, you know, it. It could be worse. I guess it definitely could be worse. So you. We brought in Ross, as we talked about in the last episode of it, bro, we knew Ross was coming back, but I thought Ross was going to give us some cutting words about Jason. From what I understand that beefing. Yeah, this was. This was so nice from Ross. I didn't know they were such good friends.
Izzy Fields
I mean, like, all I know is, like, I just. Selena's roast of. Of Ross at some, like, live show, it's just, like, playing in my. My head over and over and over again. And, yeah, like, I mean, I watched Drag Race, you know, Like, I. I remember Ross being particularly hard on Selena. So I thought. Yeah, I for sure thought this was a setup. I was pretty. Pretty happy that Ross definitely added to the nuance and the understanding and the empathy for Jason. So, like, yeah, get more queer people in there.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah.
Recap Kickback
Especially Ross Matthews, because Jenny Ross was robbed. Let me be very clear. Ross should have won that season of Celebrity Big Brother. And this. This being one of the first times we've seen Ross back in the Big Brother or in the Big Brother atmosphere, it just feels wrong. We should have been. Had Ross back. He should have hosted some competitions or at least come back in the house. I think Ross could play a real game of Big Brother.
Jenny Autumn
I. I truly think that he could, and I think that he probably would love to. Well, and this is the funny thing is, like, I feel. I feel like there's this memory that, like, people are like, oh, yeah, Ross won that season. And like, people can. People can think that, like, you know, someone. Someone was robbed and like, you know, they didn't win their season or whatever, but they. They. They remember that they didn't win the season. I think that people are so on
Izzy Fields
the same page that, like, Ross should
Jenny Autumn
have won that season, that, like, they've convinced themselves it's happened and, like, misremember, they're like, oh, wait, no, he actually
Izzy Fields
didn't win the season.
Jenny Autumn
So I do think it's like a Mandela effect of the celebrity BB season, season one. So it was really good to see him, like, come on and have this enthusiasm. My only. My only complaint is that I. And this is. Okay. I love Jerry o'.
Izzy Fields
Connell, okay?
Jenny Autumn
He's my. And I think that he is perfect for this because it's chaotic and it's. It's nonsense. My only. Only problem is that I felt like with four of them tonight, we didn't get enough. Like, I almost wanted to see more Ross. You know, I felt like him as like, a fourth panelist because there's now four of them. It felt like I didn't get enough. And I. So I do agree with the third co host. You know, having three all the time is great. But then I felt like you brought. You bring someone out that, like, you know, is very, very relevant to the fandom, you know, is a big name in general. And then I'm like, oh. Then it kind of just felt like, you know, for it to be even and for to feel like everyone had their place, that we didn't even get to spend as much time with Ross as we could, and it just felt like not the best use of him.
Izzy Fields
Well, we didn't even spend any time with Taylor. Jerry was talking the whole time.
Jenny Autumn
And that's the thing is kind of like the host now, right? Which is like, I understand because, like, Jerry hosts shows like, for a living. Like, you know what I mean? This is something that he's done. But yeah, did kind of like, we weren't from, like, bringing Jerry out last week or two weeks ago or something. This is my fucking show, guys.
Recap Kickback
Imagine. Imagine that happened. Being the third panelist and then being the host of a show. I can't remember who. How we got to BB Unlocked. Unlocked. But, you know, I. I agree. I agree. Anytime we get more Taylor Hill on screen, you know, we're not gonna ever go against that. I think Ross could have definitely got some more content. Yeah, Ross could have got some more content, but, you know, they. They did lean heavily on the clips and, you know, showing us some of the stuff that happened in the house. But of course, some of the stuff that happened outside the house.
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You what? Yeah, great price.
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Recap Kickback
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Tennessee 2012. We got a social media segment where we got to really look at some of the tweets and bleeps and skeets and all those things. And got several shout outs. Jenny, to your boss in mind, Rob Sestanino.
Izzy Fields
Let's go. Like it didn't stop.
Jenny Autumn
The fact that it. Like it happened more than Once, like, was so bizarre. Really, really fun. I was waiting. I. We were so close to Derek Levasseur mentioning Mike Bloom. I was like, he's gonna start rattling through the names.
Recap Kickback
The tweets are being drafted. Yeah, let's do it.
Jenny Autumn
I said, okay, keep going. We gotta get to Chappelle. You bid. You better say Mike Blue.
Recap Kickback
They better not say me on. On Unlocked. I would act a damn fool. You better not. Yeah, we got Rob's viral video of him imitating Yash. It's so good.
Jenny Autumn
It is really good.
Recap Kickback
I hate to give another shout out to Brandon Donlin, but amazing editing for Brandon Don. It's a big week for him.
Izzy Fields
More shallow Donlin.
Recap Kickback
Is he. Brandon Donlin married you?
Izzy Fields
He was the witness.
Recap Kickback
Shout out to Brandon Donlin. Shout out to everywhere, man. He does it all.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah. He literally is like. He's a Rome of all trades.
Recap Kickback
Taryn got. Taryn got the. The. The shout out as well. RJP got some shout outs. I liked Kelly Wentworth's video Izzy, because she was doing the. Oh, let's make fun of how we put the key and how you find it. Izzy, where did key in the Big Brother when you were getting chosen for the Big Brother house? And what was that experience like filming that?
Izzy Fields
Oh, my God. They hated me. They hated me the whole time. I was like, we gonna film that key segment yet? You know, they're like, it's supposed to be a surprise. You know,
Recap Kickback
you're like, where's my key? Give me that key.
Izzy Fields
I don't want to tell you. You know what I mean? But anyway, it was hidden in my fluke case.
Jenny Autumn
I was literally gonna say that. I was like, it's like, you know.
Recap Kickback
Yeah.
Jenny Autumn
I feel like I actually remember that now that you say it.
Izzy Fields
Yeah. Yeah.
Recap Kickback
I feel like as a fan, that's something that you just. That's the one of the moments that you kind of live for, right? It's like.
Izzy Fields
Yeah.
Recap Kickback
Walking in the house. Not first, but also the moment you open your key or open your whatever, box or something like that and pull out the key. I think we've seen some really weird places. So Kelly. Kelly was on to something with that, right, Jenny? Yeah.
Jenny Autumn
Because what if you're not a flute player, right? Like. Like Izzy's. Okay, that. At least that makes sense. They're playing. They're playing into, like, this is. This is your story. This is what you do. Like, that's why the lawnmower of it all is, like, so funny, because it's like, I. I truly have that thought. Of, like, what the hell would they get me to do?
Izzy Fields
I love when it's like, open my underwear drawer.
Jenny Autumn
Like, what the hell? Like, I don't know. What's my thing?
Izzy Fields
Just a coaster, you know, you're like, at a bar. Oh, I didn't see that there. Underneath this clear door inside my wine bottle at a bar.
Recap Kickback
I'm catching so many strange. Yeah, y. You definitely find in my key. Me and Jenny's key are at the bar.
Jenny Autumn
Deliveries.
Izzy Fields
That was. I tried to steal my key. I, like, didn't know. And I was like, baby, put this in your bag. Like, they're not asking for a bag. I was like, put it in your bag, literally, for it back.
Recap Kickback
You didn't even get to keep the key.
Izzy Fields
Well, yeah, well, then it is your key that, like, they show your key, they mail it to you. But I was, like, the one that I found. I was like, they weren't asking for me back, and I was just, like, holding it, and I was like, like, maybe put it in that bag. Like. Like, keep the key, you know?
Recap Kickback
Yeah. I have no issue stealing from. From big brother, so do that if you could get away with it. Take whatever you can from the house.
Izzy Fields
I just found it recently. Absolutely.
Recap Kickback
There you go. We need more souvenirs, more gifts.
Jenny Autumn
Do they have quality linens there? I don't know.
Izzy Fields
No, no, no.
Recap Kickback
Oh. Since we're talking about the house conditions, Izzy, how nasty does it get?
Izzy Fields
The shot, yo? I was like, Paige was shouting at the TV show the drain, you coward.
Recap Kickback
Paige, please go.
Izzy Fields
Oh, I'm supposed. I'm trying to stop saying yo. I noticed that. I'm saying it yo. And I was like, I don't like it anyway. But, no, the shower is disgusting. Like, like, slimy, greasy. The kids don't clean up. You know what I mean? Like, everyone that lives with their parents is not touching or cleaning or doing anything in that house. Just, like, hands down, just. I know it, you know? Like, yeah, I feel bad. It's nasty in there. It's gross. It's crazy that people do that with other people. I was super self conscious. Like, I wanted to keep all my stuff. Like, don't worry. Like, this is my stuff over. Not even in the bathroom. Like, in the drawers. Like, don't worry, I'm drawers. Like, everyone's stuff is everywhere. It's. I don't know. Yeah, I don't relate to that. Maybe it's like the only child in me where I'm like, you keep your stuff there. I'll keep myself.
Recap Kickback
Yeah, take as little interact with each
Izzy Fields
other's stuff, you know, Right.
Recap Kickback
When I lived in a dorm in college, I was like that as well. Like, I had dishes in my room. Like, I didn't. I didn't take them into the kitchen. You wouldn't have to worry about whose dishes are these. That's not me. You know, I'm just not doing that. But these people, Jenny, the cutting your toenails in the sink, the mention of I would have jumped the wall.
Jenny Autumn
Parmesan cheese was. I literally. It's like, oh, of course not clean it. Right?
Izzy Fields
Like, that's.
Jenny Autumn
That's the thing is like, of course, of course that. That's. That's what's happening here is like you are doing that and then also being like, surprise for whoever comes next. Like, hope you enjoy. It's. It's so gross. I also think that it's like, really interesting though, because like, when. So obviously you're playing a game and then you're going to end up like, disliking some of these people at certain points, possibly very intensely. And then just like, imagine like just getting into the shower and you can just tell that it's like. Like they're. They've left some disgusting mess. Like you're going on the block eating crackers times a million. You know what I mean? Like, you. Yeah, it's like, oh, he drank a glass of milk next to me and then just left the milk glass. And I can just tell that that milk at the bottom of the glass is going to get gross and I'm going to be the person that has to clean it later. And then you're just like, I am. I'm. Can I get an Etsy witch on the phone?
Recap Kickback
Like Asmodeus Ride?
Jenny Autumn
I just can only imagine, like, the vitriol, like, rising in you having to cohabitate with people being gross, but also like. And you don't like them.
Izzy Fields
Like, what's crazy is like, you're the bad guy if you say something, you know, like.
Jenny Autumn
Right. Yeah. You have to hold it in.
Izzy Fields
Like, that's why it's like, I'm scared of the dummies. I'm scared of the. Of the incompetence. Like, I'm scared of the people that like. Like, they really, like, believe. Like, well, unless you directly say something to me, I'm gonna leave my plate there every time. Or unless you say something and then you start a conflict with me, I'm gonna leave my foot shavings in the sink. You know what I mean? Like, you're not thinking like that, but it's like, y' all are gonna fix it, so why should I change, right? And then when someone says something, they're the bad guy. When it's like, you've been a disgusting route, you know, Like. Like, yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. And, yeah, well, I was gonna talk about. But that's not. It was from today. Like, we're so. The episode is so far behind. Anyway,
Recap Kickback
we also. We talked about the rant room. Izzy, you were in the diary room, I'm assuming, ranting about your house, your fellow house guests. Tell us about some of the rants that you might have had while you were in there. You don't have to name names unless you want to.
Izzy Fields
Well, names.
Jenny Autumn
I think you should.
Izzy Fields
This is funny. Well, I think this is funny. Like, I started, like, realizing, like. Like, I didn't. I didn't. For a while. I didn't take advantage of being like, I could ask to go to the doctor, you know, for different reasons. Like, you could ask to go in. You could buzz in, whatever. And during the period of time when I was really trying not to get boiled up over, like, literally everything and anything Red did, I would, like, hold my. I would be like, I need to be called to the doctor right now. You want to hear some shit? You'll call me to the doctor right now. Izzy, can you please come to the doctor? Like, every time, and I'll be like, this motherfucker. And I would just, like, like, let it all out. And then I'd be like, okay, do you want to ask me any questions? They'd say, no, and I'd say, I'm gonna go back. Like, I. Yeah, I needed it. No, it's. Yeah.
Recap Kickback
And. And you and Red still stay in touch.
Izzy Fields
Who?
Recap Kickback
Red.
Jenny Autumn
Corner.
Recap Kickback
Yeah, I could definitely use a rant room. I love a good rant.
Izzy Fields
And.
Recap Kickback
Yeah, and sometimes things happen, and like you said, you can't say it in front of the people. You don't want to be the bad guy. But I would be Brittany Haynes in the diary room. I would be letting people have it, honestly.
Izzy Fields
Release. Release. Full house guests. Dr. Set. Release my tapes.
Recap Kickback
Yeah,
Jenny Autumn
I need it.
Recap Kickback
We need that.
Izzy Fields
I said, yo, again. Do you see that page?
Recap Kickback
You did.
Izzy Fields
You did kill me. Yeah. Yeah. I want to see the tapes. Like, I want to remember all the good times, the bad times.
Jenny Autumn
That's my only complaint about the rant room is that I wanted. I wanted to hear more. Like, no one named names. I know that some of these people were, like, they, they knew who they were complaining about. Someone was clipping there.
Izzy Fields
I'm like, we know that.
Jenny Autumn
Well, we, yeah, but I wanted every single person to be like, this person's a slob. Like, this person snores. Like, I want, like, give us the receipts.
Izzy Fields
I also think I, I would say that the rant, what they call it RA Room, I think was my favorite segment because we finally got to see almost everyone. Like, I'm so that whole episode, like the players I could think of, I mean, I guess I have to count Lyric, but it's not like we really even saw her. We heard from Rome, Angela Devins, Jason. That was basically it, you know what I mean? Like, no one else was in this episode and I like, I resent that. You know what I mean? And so Rant Room was my favorite segment because we got to see everybody. So, so if anyone's out there watching this, that has something to do with Unlocked. You know, maybe it's a time to see more clips from different house guests that we're not getting in the edit.
Recap Kickback
Okay.
Izzy Fields
I think we should write, see more from other people.
Jenny Autumn
I agree. It's a good way to use the episode because obviously we got, you know, back like scenes. We've got stuff from like alliances or not really serious alliances that, that haven't been featured on the show regular yet. But it's like if I understand if there's not like main characters to the plot of the week and they're not getting a lot of confessionals, but like, I would love to see Unlocked use that time to give us character building moments for people that might not be a big part of the storyline of that week.
Izzy Fields
Rather than Intern Andy, what even are those segments? Who are those people in Lied? Also, Slob is just oatmeal. It's not that big a deal.
Recap Kickback
Like, it wasn't that bad.
Izzy Fields
And I mean like, if you don't do anything to it, it's just like,
Jenny Autumn
yeah, put some meal. It's just like, yeah, like, put some condiments in it. Put some sugar brown sugar syrup before.
Recap Kickback
They ain't never been broke before. I, I make slots.
Izzy Fields
Slap.
Recap Kickback
Okay. Slap.
Jenny Autumn
I, yeah, I, I, honestly, I, I, I don't think, I don't think it could be that bad anyway.
Izzy Fields
I just like, think like they're you, you know, like, I, I mean, it's just me. Like, I, I would love if Unlocked was like, like Sports Center. Like, I want it to feel like we are getting hard hitting nuance. Like, let's analyze this game. Let's talk about moves. Let's like, you know, do scenarios. Where's my boy at? You know, like. Yeah, I don't know. I think, I mean, I just. Maybe it's just because I come from it, from less of the like TV side and more just like wanting to see the game, you know, like the gamer side. Like, I just would love to see more of that. I think that would also help the casual audience, audience engaged with that type of viewing if they don't.
Recap Kickback
If they don't want to air strategy on Unlocked. That's perfect for us because we're going to get people coming here for all the strategy needs. Especially with all our shout outs we got in this episode. Right. We got some good shout outs. Including, you know, Rob C. Might be coming in the house. Nope, not. Not that Rob. Not Boston Rob. Rob says, you know, still no. Angela wants to Jeff Probst. That's the thing that we found out as well.
Izzy Fields
Yeah.
Recap Kickback
I want to jump his bones. She wants to take him out. And so it really was. It really was. That lady was aroused. So let's get to. I guess one of the things that we would not have seen if we didn't watch Unlocked, we got the advantages and powers that we have been voting for and I saw a lot of conversation about it. So thanks to the work of Mike Bloom, we do have a list of those advantages and we are going to talk about them right now. So we have the replay. That means can play in backto back hohs. All these advantages came from past seasons of Big Brother, I'm assuming. Right. This is. Do y' all remember who had the replay?
Izzy Fields
Was that Frankie's?
Recap Kickback
Oh, yeah. Frankie had at least a rewind or something like that.
Jenny Autumn
Maybe wasn't that because of the button? Honestly, it was the button.
Recap Kickback
Yeah. We had. I think they redid the whole week with Frankie. So I have to look for the
Jenny Autumn
play was a button.
Recap Kickback
Button. No, I'm saying the rewind was the button, you know. Yeah, I think they did the whole week though we had mystery competitor and alumni competes for you. I believe that was Casey who came in to compete last season for Keanu. Now, some of these advantages, all these
Izzy Fields
advantages are not made equal. They are not made equal.
Recap Kickback
Yeah. Because they're never not passed of like
Izzy Fields
a TV screen that's popping up showing you what you want. Sorry, I'm a conspiracy theorist. Helen was pushed.
Recap Kickback
We love a conspiracy here. Okay. The never not pass seems fine. It seems fine.
Izzy Fields
But it's not even in the same.
Recap Kickback
It's not in the Same realm as the diamond power of veto.
Izzy Fields
Jenny, the fact that. Oh, yeah, Jenny, please. No, no, no, no, please. The fact that he could use it for six weeks so past. When these.
Jenny Autumn
Past.
Izzy Fields
When these advantages even come out. Right. Because now it would be five weeks. Right. Like this week and four more weeks.
Recap Kickback
Right.
Izzy Fields
So. But he could use it for six weeks so past this. You know, that's crazy. I also, like, I wish that. Okay, this. I love big Brother because of how long it is. And so I think, like, I. It's like I want things where you. The players have to really, like, think about their choices. You know what I mean? Like that I think if you're gonna get this advantage, if you use it, there has to be a disadvantage in some way. Like some repercussions. You know what I mean? Like, I think my. My hot take is that all of these should. Or at least the diamond power veto. I haven't really given much thought to the rest right now, but the diamond power veto, you can use it, but you can't use it on yourself.
Recap Kickback
Okay.
Izzy Fields
You can use it, but you can't use it on yourself. Because I think too many times on big Brother people just let these things expire, actually because, like, they're not got.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah.
Izzy Fields
In trouble. Like, well, I could benefit from helping someone else out. You know what I mean? There's way more advantages played for other people on Survivor than there. Big Brother.
Jenny Autumn
Pair these with a punishment because.
Izzy Fields
Exactly.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah.
Recap Kickback
You should be punished if you have the diver power veto. You should have to be punished because this. Jenny, this is crazy.
Izzy Fields
Op Evans just made jury. You know what I mean? Just majority. Like, it's wild. Yeah.
Jenny Autumn
Like the fact that, you know, a diamond power veto that can be, you know, held on to for super, super long is one of these options. And then the never not pass, which is like fourth or fifth choice in. In like the one. One of those vetoes where it's like,
Recap Kickback
you know, the white elephant kind of.
Jenny Autumn
Yes, exactly. You're like, I could have like a flat screen TV or a trip to Jamaica or veto liter.
Izzy Fields
If someone win. If someone week six wins a power, it's going to be the never not pass. Like, it's not. You know what I mean? They're going to want. Because they want the players that people want to vote for first to get the best powers.
Recap Kickback
Like, I.
Izzy Fields
Part of me feels like I can just like guess what order these will be doled out, you know.
Recap Kickback
Yeah. We have the BB bribe, receive money to bribe another player and then we have the coin of destiny, which to me is the floppiest of the flop because I saw Claire. Claire pulled it off in her season. Season 23 with the Cookout she didn't even use. End up using the power. But she did win. She did flip the coin. It landed good for her. I just know this time around they're gonna flip that coin and it ain't gonna do nothing. Jenny, this is a. This, this power here is not going to help whoever gets it.
Jenny Autumn
Is it a Mr. Beast coin, though?
Izzy Fields
Double the money, brother season. Get out of here. The Mr.
Recap Kickback
Beast. It does feel like a missed opportunity that Rick Devins is not the person who's flipping this coin.
Jenny Autumn
Oh, exactly.
Izzy Fields
I'm like, okay, it's already an apology for making him do that on Survivor.
Recap Kickback
Those were the advantages. Let's talk about the punishments. Sam, hook us up with the punishments, please, because there are some things on here that I think would be very fun and I can kind of already determine who I think should get these things because when I saw that red unitard pop up, I said, oh, Kamu, you said you wouldn't, but okay, cool. You know, I would love to see these go to the people who want them the least.
Jenny Autumn
I want. I want Camus to get the Adam and Eve but with another guy and he has to be Eve. That's what I want.
Izzy Fields
We all want that.
Recap Kickback
I. I never thought about what that would. What that would be because when they did it the first time, I think it was Victoria.
Izzy Fields
Who was that?
Jenny Autumn
It was Victoria And Beast mode.
Recap Kickback
And beast mode.
Izzy Fields
Cowboy.
Recap Kickback
Right. They looked amazing and it was fun to watch them. But yeah, if it's like, if it's Kamu and Drew.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah.
Recap Kickback
The feeds are going to be crazy that week. But I don't know if he would. He would actually do the punishment. Easy.
Izzy Fields
Yeah. I mean, like. I mean, but also, like, did they say, like. I mean, I think he's gonna. Whoever is gonna get that punishment is gonna get to pick who they do it with. Like, I do. Right. Don't you think?
Jenny Autumn
Like, is that how it went?
Izzy Fields
Well, I don't know if.
Recap Kickback
Oh. If Jason picks Kamu.
Izzy Fields
Well, that. See, that would be very me.
Jenny Autumn
Okay.
Izzy Fields
That was what I would do, you know, Like. Yeah. Learn how to cope. You know?
Recap Kickback
The lord of latrine is the first one on this list. Is that Derek X?
Jenny Autumn
Derek X.
Recap Kickback
Okay.
Izzy Fields
Amazon was Jesse.
Recap Kickback
Yeah. The camp. Yeah. Who was the camp guy setting up Tintin roasting wieners. Do we remember who that was?
Izzy Fields
Who was that? Oh, I do. Oh, my God. It's Like, I do remember that, but I can't.
Jenny Autumn
A lot of these are pretty modern.
Recap Kickback
Like, I think the chat saying Alex, I think is what the chat's saying.
Izzy Fields
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah.
Recap Kickback
And. And then, of course, the iconic. The. The probably the most iconic punishment in Big Brother history, that red unitard. So many people have done it justice. I just. Whoever gets this, I just want them to embrace it, because this is a part. They are being a part of Big Brother history. When you get this disadvantage, this punishment,
Jenny Autumn
like, D's gonna get it and just look so hot and it like. Yes.
Izzy Fields
Yeah, listen, to get it, it looks like car wash. Like, the wacky, wavy,
Recap Kickback
inflatable arm feeling, too, man.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah. I was gonna say, like. Like, Barrett's very tall. So, like, do they. Yeah, it's gonna be. It'll be like one of those wrestling. Like, speaking of the wrestling, right? It'll be like one of those, like, wrestling unitards where it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just think that that, like, you know, not that D will get it, but if Dee did get it, it'd just be like, no notes.
Izzy Fields
No notes.
Jenny Autumn
Incredible notes. Just slaying again.
Recap Kickback
Good lord.
Jenny Autumn
So I do want to see Barrett. That sounds great. Yeah.
Recap Kickback
I think that's the most funny one, honestly.
Jenny Autumn
That's what I want.
Izzy Fields
Yeah.
Recap Kickback
Or he's gonna be bursting out of the. The unitard.
Jenny Autumn
I want nipples out.
Recap Kickback
So we end the episode with a clip from the HOH competition. We. Wrestling ring. Is it Wrestlegasm. Is that what they were saying?
Izzy Fields
Horny episode, Horny people. But we can have straights talking about sex 100 of the time.
Recap Kickback
Wrestlegasm isn't even a thing. As many rest you made. They made that up just to say gasm.
Izzy Fields
I think this is what I'm saying. These are choices that have been made,
Jenny Autumn
and I don't know who's making them.
Izzy Fields
Oh, I do.
Recap Kickback
Like, Julie girl. What? Julie, Is this what they doing on God. 101 now. WrestleGasms. Okay, I might need to turn that up. Jenny, I know you were excited to see the return of one of your faves in mine. Mr. Spectacular is back.
Izzy Fields
I'm leaving.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah.
Izzy Fields
I don't.
Jenny Autumn
Again. This is so confusing what the show is doing with, like, the. The hosts and, like, the cameos of, like. Sometimes it's just an actor. Sometimes it's someone from BB Pass. Sometimes it's a mix of them because it's like they had. So they had the announcer and then the.
Izzy Fields
Like, the ref and then the two referrals like the two hype girls and then.
Jenny Autumn
And then they like the. The fighter against Jesse or two fighters. Like, I'm so confused about what was going on. Is Jesse fighting two people?
Recap Kickback
It seems that way, but.
Izzy Fields
So this is the comp. Okay, Absolutely. They're going to be watching them do some wrestling things and then they're going to ask. Get asked questions about it, right?
Recap Kickback
Well, that was my question. I said, okay, we know there's wrestling going on. But I was like, but what are they going to be doing?
Izzy Fields
I don't think they're wrestling. I think, I mean, Hall Brawl.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah, bring Hall Brawl. Yeah. That's actually what Big brother needs in 2026.
Recap Kickback
Yeah.
Jenny Autumn
Well, yeah, there's probably questions about like, you know, I. I'm sure that there was probably like names of the moves where it's like, oh, he just performed
Izzy Fields
the, like, well, Kamu won.
Jenny Autumn
I don't know.
Izzy Fields
So. And if it's a quiz, it's definitely like they're asking real wrestling questions. Everyone watching this has watched the feed.
Recap Kickback
At least I hope so.
Izzy Fields
Sorry, there are spoilers.
Recap Kickback
Oh, no.
Izzy Fields
I've been talking about Evans getting the power. I've been talking about I almost have
Jenny Autumn
to come here expecting mess.
Izzy Fields
So we're too far gone.
Recap Kickback
We're too far gone.
Jenny Autumn
Panel and be like, listen, get ready.
Izzy Fields
Yeah, you can't hear about spoilers on a show that is live. I'm sorry, you just got to shut, you guys. That's also about the process, not about the result.
Recap Kickback
Okay, like, yeah, somewhere Taryn is shaking his head, but that about covers most of the things in this episode. Izzy, is there anything else you wanted to highlight from BB UnLocke and from your time in the Big Brother house that you think the people would want to hear about?
Izzy Fields
Oh, I don't know. I mean, everything. No, I don't.
Jenny Autumn
Yeah, I do.
Recap Kickback
I want.
Jenny Autumn
Release the tapes.
Recap Kickback
Release the tapes.
Izzy Fields
No, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, like, everything. I'm super hyped for this season. I think, like, if you're not watching the feeds, I'm sorry for the spoilers and also get on those feeds because, like, I'm just like, I'm so excited that there's so much action and like, I don't care if people are bad at it or are doing bad things. I want people to engage with the game. Like, that's all I care about. And so I think that's like really happening this season, you know, so I'm stoked about that. This is the first season since I played that, I, like, kind of really feel like a fan, you know? Like, it's so personal. Like, I was, like, couldn't finish the episode after the Jason Angela fight, you know, I was just, like, so, like, feeling in my feelings. So it's like, I don't think it'll stop being personal or, like, emotional, but, like, wow, I am just, like, fan girling all over this season, like, loving it. So that feels really good. And. Yeah. Yeah.
Recap Kickback
All right, Jenny, Jenny, this is the first time we've heard from you this season. Are you. Are you pumped for the rest of the season?
Jenny Autumn
Of course I am. Like, what. What choice do I have? Like, I'm. I love to be. I love to be optimistic, and I love mess, and I love absurdity, and I think that even when Big Brother is bad, there's going to be absurdity along the way, and so there's always going to be something for me, and so that's what I appreciate. Like, and that there's so many opportunities to enjoy and discuss the madness, especially with all of, like, the COVID coverage going on on rhap. Like, now that we've got unlocked and. And we're covering that and obviously, like, the slops existence summer of Stein is back. So I. I think that, like, even on the weeks where it might be, like, a little. Okay, we kind of. We kind of know what's happening here. I think that there's, like, also just enough wild cards going on in the season that. That never say never. And I'm also just going to be seated for the absurdity along the way. And so I'm very glad that this got to be, like, my. My entry into the BB28 coverage of the season. Getting to do this with y', all, because it's just the perfect way to start for me personally.
Recap Kickback
Yeah, absolutely.
Izzy Fields
On the power shifting. Okay. We need power. Different hands. Yeah.
Recap Kickback
Let's get this. Let's make this messier. Let's make this messier. Izzy, where can people find you and. And keep up with what you have going on?
Izzy Fields
For all things reality tv, you can follow me on blueski at Flute Dyke. Okay. And if you want to check out some of my art, some of my music, you can follow me on Instagram at bbizzy. Underscore makes art. Yeah. Yeah. So happy to.
Recap Kickback
All right. Izzy's a great follow, so follow my sibling here and also follow Jenny. Jenny, what do you have going on?
Jenny Autumn
Going all. I'm working a lot. My, like, my offline life is very, very crazy right now. And hopefully I'll get to enjoy like summer at some point and then, you know, just following Big Brother and yeah, follow me on social media at Jenny Autumn and hopefully I'll get to chat more about the season along the way.
Recap Kickback
All right. And a big shout out to the chat shout out to Brandon Donlin once again and to Rob and Taryn the the hidden gems here in this episode of BB Unlocked. To keep up with me, follow me on all social media platforms at Recap Kickback Check out my podcast YouTube.com recap kickback go to recapkickback.com subscribe to subscribe to the podcast and then make sure that you tune in for me talking to David Bloomberg about why Rome lost because he did. And then also the slop where Rob and I behind the paywall are going to say some heinous things that only people who are paying to see to see it can see. And so no snitches. Yeah, no, yeah, you definitely need to come to the slot, please. We'll make room. No snitches on the slop though. But that's about it. We will be back in two weeks for another Big Brother unlock. Until then, take care everybody. Peace.
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This episode features a lively panel discussion dissecting Week 2 of "Big Brother 28: Unlocked," RHAP's supplemental content show for BB28. Hosted by Recap Kickback and Jenny Autumn with special guest Izzy Fields (BB25), the trio delves into the evolving purpose, strengths, and problematic elements of Unlocked, offering behind-the-scenes insight, passionate critique, and fan-lens analysis. This episode is especially rich in meta commentary about BB culture, inclusivity, alliances, and the ways Unlocked is reshaping BB28 viewer experience.
“I … still feel like I don’t fully understand who the show is for totally… Are the casual Sunday, Wednesday, Friday or Thursday viewers also watching Friday?” (07:03)
“I was super thankful for the Jason segment. But … a lot of the content we’re getting … just used to be in the episodes.” (05:32)
"Other than Rachel Riley? ...everyone else has been a white man. ...The only woman they had, they killed. They let a dinosaur push her into a volcano." (08:21)
"We could be traveling to a time where we might not be able to vote. I don’t know… Sorry, women." (08:55)
"Rome’s answer pissed me off on many levels ...why are you saying, I’ll wait for you and then… like, basically like a week. I’m not wait for you. ...Root for your woman to win, bring some money home." (12:21)
"Does Lyric have any say in any of these life choices you’ve just made for her…? The baby she’s supposed to make when she goes home? Pre-jury?" (09:29)
“Anyone that goes into that house and is singular… it’s unimaginable how lonely it is. ...You’re vulnerable... but on Drag Race, when there are vulnerable moments … it’s like the gay equivalent of the guy, like, slapping himself in the face and doing a push up. ...Jason is playing a terrible game, but not for the reasons that people are mad at him." (20:14–24:21)
"There’s this little moment of like you catch yourself being vulnerable and then … you catch yourself slip in." (24:59)
“When it comes to people that are singular, I just wish the fans had a little bit more nuance. Like, they are begging the show to have.” —Izzy Fields (23:15)
“I have a beef with, like, the culture of BB of, like, every little fucking thing needing to be named...I think names get in the way.” (31:45)
“The naming has gone the way of the shout outs in the diary room...it loses its allure to me when every alliance, fake alliance, like sub alliance has its own name.” (35:08)
“If you’re gonna get this advantage, if you use it, there has to be a disadvantage in some way… my hot take is that all of these should—or at least the Diamond Power Veto…you can use it but you can’t use it on yourself.” (62:59)
"Rob’s viral video of him imitating Yash. It’s so good." (48:33)
"This is the first season since I played that I, like, kind of really feel like a fan, you know?...I couldn’t finish the episode after the Jason Angela fight, just … in my feelings." (71:52)
“Even when Big Brother is bad, there’s going to be absurdity along the way… I’m very glad that this got to be…my entry into the BB28 coverage of the season.” (72:51)
[02:09] — Opening panel introductions and vibes
[04:32] — Is Unlocked good? What audience it serves
[06:42] — Purpose identity crisis, representation on Unlocked
[09:15] — Rome & Lyric, showmance critique
[13:00] — Exit interview inconsistencies, houseguest perceptions
[20:14] — Jason/Manila Luzon/drag culture & vulnerability
[31:44] — Alliance naming debate, 'Fields' and the Tool Shed
[45:31] — Social media/Z-list shoutouts, TikTok key segment
[51:32] — BB house hygiene, Rant Room
[59:05] — What could Unlocked be? Wish for more strategy content
[61:00] — BB Powers and Punishments rundown
[68:44] — HOH comp: Wrestlegasm and finale
[71:43] — Final thoughts, what makes this season special
Lighthearted, playful, and deeply nerdy, but also piercingly critical and honest about representation and game structure. There’s an irreverent, “mess is good” energy and genuine fan-turned-insider warmth, especially from Izzy. Recap Kickback, Jenny, and Izzy never shy from their biases but blend snarky humor with emotional vulnerability.
This episode is a must-listen if you want to understand both what’s happening on Big Brother 28 and what makes “Unlocked” worth your time this season. With plenty of lingo, in-jokes, and heart, the podcast hits the sweet spot between analysis and entertainment.
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