Rob Chats BB28 Week 4 with Heavy Crown Network

Summary

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RHAP: We Know Big Brother – Rob Chats BB28 Week 4 with Heavy Crown Network

Date: August 5, 2026
Host: Rob Cesternino
Guests/Co-hosts: Tiffany Mitchell, Hannah Chaddha “Chada,” Claire Rehfuss (with her cat), Derek Frazier "Big D" — aka the Heavy Crown Network crew

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Episode Overview

This lively “play date” episode brings together Rob Cesternino with the Heavy Crown Network alum, a group of Big Brother legends, to recap Week 4 of BB28. The conversation is equal parts strategy breakdown, cast gossip, insider stories, social gameplay debate, live feed tea, and classic RHAP clowning. They also touch on cross-show comparisons (Survivor, Love Island, The Traitors), celebrate Tiffany’s birthday, and spiral into a hilarious brainstorm for a “Reality TV Charm School.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Group Dynamic & Birthday Vibes

• Episode kicks off with playful banter as Rob arrives solo — the group jokes about missing the rest of the RHAP crew.
• [02:17] Tiffany Mitchell’s birthday is lovingly celebrated, with jokes about her being “21 once again.”
• Multiple audio mishaps (mic tapping, cats, desk touches) become recurring inside jokes.

Notable Quote:

"Today is her birthday, so everybody, happy birthday to Tiffany Mitchell. She is 21. Once again, as she always says." – Derek (A), [02:17]

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2. Heavy Crown Upgrades & Cast Changes

• Claire is welcomed as “the best addition” targeting the Facebook demo and bringing viral energy.
• Claire: "I've heard we were going viral on Facebook. You know, Rome's left the house, so they had to bring me in." [02:04]

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3. Production Twists: Vets vs. Newbies

• The vet-heavy power positions—especially with Survivor alums Rick Devins and Dee—are discussed at length.
• Some panelists feel production’s twists unfairly favor returnees.
  • [26:31] Rob: “It was overpowered to have a first HOH have to be one of the vets and then also vote for somebody to get a power. And you have people who have fan bases already. So I think it's like, what did you expect was gonna happen?”

Notable Quote:

“Already giving suspicious. Already giving rigatorious.” – Derek, [25:17]
“Production would hate me. ...You brought in four people. Three people. I would have knew who Jason was. So four people. I would have been like, what the fuck? So, yeah, I think it's a little rigorous for me. I'm not here for it." – Derek, [26:56]

• Strategy options as a new player: kiss ass just long enough to take out the vets.

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4. Game Analysis: State of the House & Strategy

• Rob worries Survivor alums make Big Brother look “too easy” and that crossover casting might stop.

[10:49]

“Well, I'm worried that they're not gonna ever bring Survivor players onto Big Brother anymore.” – Rob

• The group questions whether the season is getting stale, with predictable votes and few game-shaking moves.

[17:18]

“Are we bored? Because I'm a little bit bored. I'm not going to lie.” – Derek
“It's not giving expect the unexpected. It's giving very much expected.” – Tiffany, [17:18]

• Claire floats the “anonymize the eviction vote” idea, sparking debate over whether it would change gameplay or just feel fan-servicing. The consensus: maybe worth trying, but probably won’t change the core dynamic.

“When people say they want to bring back the key wheel, I feel like you're just trying to prove that you're a fan... Like, okay, prove to me you're a fan in different ways.” – Claire, [18:14]

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5. Deep Dive: This Week’s Moves & Power Structure

• General consensus: Dee and Rick are in strong, “as long as it’s not me” positions.
• Rob says they'd likely float to the end because of having so many alliances, likening it to Cirie’s Survivor 50 run.

[15:57]

"They just have so many relationships… they can kind of make it work right now." – Rob

• Questioning if Drew should be targeted, or if it’s premature.
  • “I think they probably are (getting rid of him too early), but I also don’t think it’s going to be a disaster.” – Rob, [16:39]

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6. Player Evaluations – Who’s Impressing?

• Haley: “All bark and no bite” as HOH, wanting to protect women while nominating them.
  “It's always the ones that speak about it that don't be about it.” – Tiffany, [29:13]

• Lyric: Viewed as a strong social manipulator, possibly “too disloyal”—embracing the “real” Big Brother gameplay.
  “She certainly has a way of convincing people to do what she wants them to do. …But I think it's not going unnoticed. I just think that she's flying too close to the sun.” – Rob, [63:14]

• Angela: Labeled as highly active and covertly influential, “playing lower,” but somehow off everyone’s radar.
  “Angela might win this season.” – Tiffany, [67:22]

• Drew: Targeted but unaware, possibly in best with Dee/Devins if a flip is executed.

• Dee & Devins: Seen as power duo, potentially best off going to the end together if jury bias against vets is real.

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7. Twists – Power Bribe & Old School Powers

• The “power bribe” ($5,000 to influence votes/actions) prompts speculation about if and how it could matter.
  “You have to do what she tells you... Would you have taken $5,000 for your jury vote?” – Hannah/Chada, [45:24]

• Nostalgia for old twists like the “Coin of Destiny” and coup d’etat; Claire shares her post-eviction PA encounter about twist regrets. [48:58]

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8. Show Crossovers & Meta Commentary

• Love Island: Rob and Claire reflect on players “playing Love Island on Big Brother.”
• The Traitors: Debate over whether Dee or Rick would make better traitors/faithfuls.
• Reality TV money talk: Big Brother vs Survivor payouts, cost of a jury vote (“$5,000 is a lot. Big Brother yes, Survivor no.” – Derek, [55:00])
• Edge of Extinction/Jag Discourse: Rob breaks down the ethics of winning after being voted out (Chris Underwood, Jag BBN).

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9. Culture, Camaraderie, & Recap Antics

• The group’s closeness is highlighted — they talk every day, unlike most other casts. Rob muses he doesn’t keep in touch with his Survivor cast, expressing envy (“...this is my family. They try to go somewhere, it's gonna be on the news.” – Tiffany, [80:54])
• Extended riffing on recapping "Baddies" (the Bad Girls Club spinoff), and eventually a “Reality TV Charm School” featuring “do’s and don’ts” for reality stardom.

[93:09]

“This could be where your life comes from. The reality TV charm school.” – Rob

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “[Rick and D] have not, like, reinvented strategy…they just, you know, haven’t said the wrong thing and kind of stayed out of the way.” – Rob, [14:06]
• “If a returner sits at the end, I’m voting for them 100% of the time…in the hopes that someone doesn’t bring them and instead will me.” – Claire, [75:45]
• “Kiss their ass until I get a second to kick them out.” – Derek, [28:06]
• “I would have known who Jason was. …You brought in four people, I would have been like, what the fuck?…It’s a little rigorous for me.” – Derek, [26:56]
• “She is trying to turn herself around…trying to listen a little more, to own some accountability.” – Tiffany on Haley, [31:42]
• “They just have so many relationships…they can kind of make it work right now.” – Rob, [15:57]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Birthday Celebrations & Introductions: [02:17]
• Production “Rigation” & Vets’ Advantage: [25:17]–[27:41]
• Live Feed Boredom & Gameplay Fixes: [17:18], [18:14]
• Bribe Power, Coin of Destiny Nostalgia: [44:11]–[49:56]
• Angela’s Under-the-Radar Power: [67:14]–[69:40]
• Survivor/Big Brother Crossover Play: [10:49], [57:04]
• Reality TV Friendship & Podcast Meta: [80:16]
• Baddies/Charm School Brainstorm: [82:17]–[94:02]

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Takeaways for Non-Listeners

• Game State: BB28’s Week 4 game is dominated by veteran crossovers (Dee and Rick Devins), analyzed both from a strategic and production perspective. The panel is torn on whether the game is stale or just slow to catch fire.
• Players to Watch: Lyric is seen as the most socially adept and possibly most in danger this week; Angela and Dee are power players hiding in plain sight; Drew could be the victim of a late-week flip.
• Debates: The vote anonymization fix is hotly contested, as are comments on whether cross-show casting makes the house too predictable. They agree new powers do little to rock the fundamental alliance structure.
• Entertainment Factor: The strong friendships and wit of the panelists turn a slow BB week into an episode filled with inside jokes, bold opinions, and cultural references.
• Meta/Legacy: The Heavy Crown/RHAP crew reflect on their rare post-show family bond, in contrast to Rob’s more solitary Survivor alumni experience.

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a perfect intersection of strategic analysis, casting/production critique, warm cast chemistry, and delightful reality TV chaos. While the hosts agree the gameplay may be slow, their banter, hot takes, and reality TV war stories keep the energy high.

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Be sure to comment Happy Birthday to Tiffany and weigh in: Would anonymizing eviction votes shake up Big Brother strategy — or would everything stay the same? And would you sign up for Reality TV Charm School, hosted by the cookout cast?

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Transcript

[A]

Is the bus still running?

[B]

Hey, everybody. What's going on? I'm Rob Cisternino. Look who I'm with. How fun is this?

[A]

Hi.

[B]

We linked up tonight with the Heavy Crown Network for a play date here. Rhap. And everybody over here at the Heavy Crown, it's of course, Tiffany and Chada and Claire and Big D. And it's. It's a meetup.

[C]

It's a play date.

[A]

Rob, we've been waiting for this play date. But why did you come by yourself?

[B]

Listen, I. I thought I was the guest on your podcast. I thought it's like, wait, where's everybody else? Oh.

[A]

Oh, I wanted to see. Pooya. I didn't want to just have you.

[C]

Rob, don't install our guest.

[B]

I'll text.

[A]

No. Rob, I'm so glad you're here. You know we love you so much, and we're so glad to have this.

[C]

Derek, you keep hitting your microphone, I think.

[A]

Oh, sorry. Come on, Big D. I know I'm fucking up tonight.

[D]

You keep.

[C]

Why you still doing it? What are you doing? Like, tapping your desk. Oh, is that you, Rob? It's Rob.

[B]

I'm tapping the microphone. Uh, I don't think so.

[C]

Never mind. You would not tap the microphone.

[B]

I think so. Yeah.

[C]

Okay. All right.

[B]

Rob scenario, here with the heavy crowd.

[A]

Rob scenario, we're so glad to have you here. Rob, scenario, do you see that we now have Claire Rafis?

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

Do you see how we are diversifying?

[C]

Yes, we upgraded.

[E]

Shock.

[D]

Derek, Claire is hands down the best addition we've ever made to the Heavy Crown network in the history.

[E]

There are times target the Facebook demographic here. So I've been brought on and I think we're doing well. I think.

[B]

Good.

[E]

I've heard we were going viral on Facebook. You know, Rome's left the house, so they had to bring me in.

[B]

Nice.

[E]

Desperate times.

[C]

Obvious calls for desperate measures.

[A]

Oh, before we start, I want to first shout out Ms. Tiffany Mitchell. Today is her birthday, so everybody, happy birthday to Tiffany Mitchell. She is 21. Once again, as she always says.

[C]

I think I'm going to be 33. But, like, just ever.

[E]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

Yeah, we love that. Are you doing anything special for your birthday?

[C]

Well, I'm hanging out with my girls. I am out in the Miami. Or the yams, as my friend Chanel calls it. The yams. I think that's what she said when I walked in. I said the yams. I thought she was talking about my cake. Please.

[B]

I was worried she was talking about this guy.

[A]

Oh, that Jam. Jam.

[D]

How do you just have that on hand, please?

[B]

Way to ruin the mood, Tiffany.

[A]

You know Jam. Jam's Tiffany's favorite person, right? She replaced me. She replaced me with Jam Jam.

[C]

Don't tell him that, because Rob personally hand wrote inside of my book. He transcribed in the book he sent to me. I was like, oh, my God, I can't wait to read this beautiful. You know, what do you call it?

[E]

Whatever.

[B]

Inscription.

[C]

Yes. Inscription. I was like, I can't wait to read. I thought that was it. It was coming, but it wasn't coming out. And then I opened it up, and it's got Jam Jam name in it.

[E]

What do you say to Jam Jam?

[C]

Nope. It just. I won't say what he said. It just says, tiffany, just know somebody. You got this book and somebody else didn't.

[A]

Oh, my God. Not Jam Jam. Catching streams.

[E]

Catching streams in a book instead.

[B]

Try to get the books mixed up. Hope I didn't send you the wrong one.

[C]

Oh, Rob is serious out here.

[A]

So I get on his bad side. Rob, how's the body?

[B]

Fine.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Is it better than Chuck?

[C]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Wait, I'm sorry. How did Chuck's body get on this podcast?

[D]

This is a new law that I'm wondering.

[C]

Chuck's body. Beef Chuck. What are we talking about? Ground beef Chuck.

[A]

Chuck. Chuck. You know, Chuck who pops in the janitor for Big Brother 28?

[D]

Wait, what do you mean, the janitor? Does he. Does he cook and clean? Has he mastered the big D strategy? What's happening?

[A]

But I will say this. He just pops. Like, he just pops in. He's like a janitor. Like, you never like the janitor. Always. You never know where they are in the school. They just pop up randomly at random times.

[C]

Rob, have you somehow spoken on Chuck's body? Cause why?

[B]

No, I've never. I would never objectify Chuck. What I would do.

[C]

But you did objectify to one dude. You redid his whole casting.

[B]

Yash.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Yes. No, I did recreate his video, but I don't think I objectified him.

[C]

You did. As a dancer.

[B]

I. We. We had that idea to make that video, and I had to have my son help me. And he was so upset with me because I. I paid him $10.

[C]

Oh, my God. Child labor law.

[B]

Do the tick tock dances like Hannah Chada. And I also, I. I ate so hard at one point, and it was the hardest my wife has laughed in 15 years when I. I just ate it so badly on the floor.

[D]

I do need to Know.

[C]

Or backward.

[B]

I, like, tripped over my own feet. And I'll. I'll text you the bloopers.

[C]

We have bloopers if you want. Can we put them in the video? In the. In this video?

[D]

Ooh, that's good.

[B]

Sure. But yeah. Yeah, that. I don't know if I objectified yash like that.

[A]

Not really. That's not me. I'm muted. You've been yelling at me. It's not me.

[D]

Is it?

[C]

Is it me?

[E]

Is it me?

[A]

I don't know. Touch your desk, Claire, so we can figure this out. It's you. She can never come for you again, so she's made it clear. She will always come for me. So, Claire. There you go. You all know when we go back in the house, Tiffany's gonna get me out first, so it don't matter. Claire, There you go. There's your answer. Okay, so when you add a new

[B]

person, you have to vet them and make sure they know what they're doing audio wise.

[C]

Look, she mad. She folded her arms and everything. They won't catch me touching the desk. She almost had the little.

[E]

You better listen, Claire.

[C]

You better went and got reinforcement. She went and got the cat. Brought the cat in. Now he's involved.

[E]

And really, it was probably the cat that was walking on the dock.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

I agree. I got it clear. If not, you could Shaka Khan that mic girl. You could Shaka Khan. I mean, Hannah knows what I'm talking about. You could Shaka Khan that mica.

[C]

Shaka Khan that mic man.

[A]

So Chaka Khan did a video recently where she sung her song. She did a video recently where she sung a song, and she was six feet away from the mic and they said, look how loud she is singing six feet away from the mic.

[C]

That's how I sing because my voice is so, you know, it's so magnanimous.

[A]

Oh, magnanimous.

[D]

Magnanimous.

[A]

No, sing something. Sing something for Rob so he can. So he can hear your beautiful voice.

[C]

I have to think of a song.

[E]

Sing the song that they do on, like, the Traders when they're, like, walking in and it's like, which one?

[C]

Come on, Rob.

[B]

I think we're gonna sing a song that Michael Rapaport sings about how.

[C]

What did he sing?

[B]

That. If you're a traitor, you know it. Clap your hands.

[C]

If you're traitor and you know it, Clap your hands. Yeah, yeah. Look at Hannah.

[B]

What do you want? The Hunger Game. It's a hunger game.

[D]

I used to get hanging tree. Hanging tree. I get paid you get paid to sing, Tiffany?

[C]

I don't know the words.

[D]

Tiffany was just with me in Chicago a couple days ago, and it's my mom asking Tiff, Tiff, can you sing immediately? No, she can't.

[C]

It's so rude because you don't take my singing seriously. I put my love on top Dun dun oh, baby I put my love

[E]

on top

[C]

baby for my love on time Honey, honey, come on. See? Rob want to hear more from Big D?

[B]

Buy some more.

[C]

What do you think, Big D?

[E]

I'm sorry for you.

[A]

You know, Rock. You know, sometimes, you know, people try new things, and you just have to kind of just tell them no.

[E]

Wow.

[D]

Beautiful gowns. Beautiful gowns.

[A]

She's Beautiful gowns. Tiffany's a strategist. She's to stick to strategy.

[B]

She's being a leader.

[C]

I know a hater when I sing.

[A]

She's good at reading people. She's good at being a mastermind. Singing? Absolutely not. She never.

[B]

I think it's good.

[A]

We told you in the house you couldn't sing.

[C]

Babe, you ain't told me nothing.

[E]

You did.

[D]

Think I might have.

[A]

Well, speaking. Speaking of the house, Rob, I want to hear your thoughts. What's your thoughts so far on this cast of big brother twins? 28, neither.

[C]

Don't be out here acting like you scared of Rick Devins and everything.

[B]

I'm not scared of Rick Devins. I. Listen. I. I love Rick. I love Dee. They're fun, but, you know, it's like it got. They got. Maybe they're too good.

[C]

I don't think so. Maybe they got a lot of help. But I'll say this. I'm not complaining about production, because if they ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever let me come back, I want you to let me have some help, too. I'm just saying they don't need the help. I want the help. But that help they gave them. You don't help Survivor players. I love you, Rob, but I don't want y' all Survivor players going into Big Brother talking about, oh, this is so much fun. It's not fun. It's hard.

[B]

And it's not easy for Survivor players.

[C]

You take them behind in their ride.

[B]

Well, I'm worried that they're not gonna ever bring Survivor players onto Big Brother anymore.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait, Rob. Why do you think they're making it look too easy?

[D]

Good.

[A]

So somebody told me Claire went on the Amazing Race. I mean, Claire. Oh, Claire ran that Amazing Race when

[E]

Amazing Racers were on Big Brother. They make. They made that look hard. You know, so why we need racers from 17 they. When they had their.

[B]

Tom.

[D]

Jackie.

[A]

We met her one time at one of the premier parties and she had. I forgot she had. Yeah, she was definitely at one of the premiere. Don't she have the. Don't she had the big knockers and the black hair?

[D]

Yes. We are so jealous that you had.

[A]

Yeah, we. It was the night that we had Mama Fee on the. On the Live.

[E]

On.

[A]

On the Instagram Live.

[C]

I don't remember anything, but I do remember having Mama Fee on the live feed. I had to tell her to stop it. I said, all right, now, Mama Fe a family friendly show, baby. Twerking.

[A]

She was twerking. Backing it up. Yep.

[B]

Mm. She was throwing ass.

[C]

Yes, Rob, she was throwing ass in a circle. Just to be precise. Did you just throw that ass in a circle? Throw that ass in a circle.

[B]

Throw that ass in a circle.

[C]

I said, Felicia, she really. No family friendly podcast.

[A]

Mama Fee definitely was popping it off. She was showing us how she get down. So that's the night that I definitely. I don't remember her name, but I remember what she looked like.

[D]

Jackie.

[A]

Yeah, she. Yeah, so she. So, yes, I do agree having Survivor players here and them saying like, it's easy is very. Like, it can't be easy. But I did hear on the live feeds that Dee and Rick Devins had like a little cry moment because they were missing home. And at this point, they would be done, like, the game would be over by now. So now this is where the game really does start. And I'm excited to see what their mental is going to be like.

[C]

Messed up.

[A]

That part.

[D]

Messed up and destroyed.

[C]

And you gonna get this Big Brother cocktail before you leave.

[A]

Rob, would you ever do Big Brother?

[B]

You know, it would be hard to do the three month edition. I would love to do a short version. And that was my origin story that I wanted to be on Big Brother way back when and I almost got on Big Brother 3. So it was my dream once upon a time. But I don't know if it would feel like. I just think, look at like some of these conversations you're just having. Like, I don't know if I could do it for 85 days.

[C]

So you mean they wouldn't let you stay for 85 days? They, like, your game would pay us out and then they would vote you out.

[B]

It might be, I mean, based off of, like, how this typically goes for me, I don't think I would be there for that long. So, I mean, maybe. Maybe I could go And I wouldn't be gone long. I would be, you know, go check it out and come home.

[C]

That'd be the game you'd go win.

[D]

Now, Rob, I. I have a question for you, Rob. How do you think you would do this season? Let's just say it was you and D in that house instead of D and Dub.

[B]

I think it would go okay. I really do. I think it doesn't seem like. Like, you know, with all due respect to Rick and D, I don't think they've really, like, reinvented strategy or anything like that. They sort of just, you know, not, like, said the wrong thing and kind of stayed out of the way and they're doing great. And it seems like that the people that are in the house are kind of forgetting about them.

[C]

But doesn't experience allow that? Doesn't experience allow you to know when to speak, when not to speak? And, you know, like, that's. They should have possessed those skills. That's a seasoned gamer.

[D]

Well, can we talk about who you think you would have aligned with this season and who you think you'd be targeting?

[B]

It's hard to say because. But. But I think that I. I would probably look at it, I. I think probably pretty similar to what. What Rick is doing. Although I. I do think that I would probably want to keep the Drews and Barrett's around, and I probably would not be as close with Red Corner if I had to guess.

[E]

Good. Good answer.

[B]

But you know what I mean. You say, like, I'm entertained by the kooky characters, and so I think that that's also very fun.

[A]

That was going to be my question because when you say you were going to keep Barrett and Drew, I was

[C]

like, well, I want to ask him, do you think that Devin's and Dee are kind of on as long as it's not me, because that's kind of how Survivor is. So, like, instead of going like, well, like you're saying, I keep Drew, I keep Barrett. It doesn't really seem like they really care who to keep or not. Kind of like, as long as it's

[B]

not well, I just think that they're in such a good position. It's kind of like in Survivor 50 where we saw with siree when she had an alliance going on with everybody, and it's like, yes, somebody has to go home, and every single person is like, well, that person's my ally, and that kind of stinks. And that's kind of the position that they're in, that I think that whatever happens I feel like they can kind of make it work right now. They just have so many relationships.

[D]

So you feel like even if they get rid of Drew this week, I don't know why. My voice is. Yeah, all scratchy. My bad.

[C]

All that work, Dr. Hannah, Dr.

[D]

Shadow, all that talking. The only muscle I'm working is my mouth. But do you feel like they are getting rid of Drew too prematurely?

[B]

I think they probably are, but I also don't think it's going to be a disaster if they get rid of him.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, let me ask you guys this, and everybody can answer this question. Are we bored? Because I'm a little bit bored. I'm not going to lie. Like, I'm being completely honest this week. Like, even recapping like, Rob, this should probably be your fourth podcast. This is my second podcast for the day. I'm bored. Like, even talk about it. I'm finally trying to pick straws to pick. I'm waiting for Miss, you know, outgoing, bubbly, great personality to give me something. I'm so damn bored. If bubbly means boring, this is bubbly.

[C]

I'm bored, Claire. It's not giving expect the unexpected. It's giving very much expected. But did you all see this hot take that someone had on Big on on social about how to get rid of the. Or just, like, how to maybe undercut the unanimous house vote thing, which is just. Julie doesn't reveal ever how many votes a person got? Just say, you're evicted. I kind of like that. Because then people can vote any way they want without having to figure out, tell us why you.

[D]

Claire.

[C]

I'm not mad at that. I like it.

[E]

People say this every year. I'm sorry. I'm touching my desk because I'm asking.

[C]

No, we can't hear it. We can't hear it. We can't hear it. Thank you, Claire. Claire.

[A]

Rob, I'm gonna send you the video. I'm gonna send you the video. You'll get it when I send it to you.

[C]

And I want that bloopers, too, people.

[B]

I already sent it to you.

[E]

Okay, thank God. Listen, watch that video. As I rant, I think that I feel about this idea the same way I feel about people being like, we need to bring back the key wheel. Like, yeah, I hate the key wheel. Claire, agree to say, like, okay, you're proving. When people say they want to bring back the key wheel, I feel like you're just trying to prove that you're a fan, and I don't buy that bullshit. Like, okay, prove to me You're a fan in different ways. Like I, I feel like it's like a hot take people like to have. That's not really a good hot take. I feel about, well, what if they just anonymize the votes? That's stupid. Like, I don't know why.

[C]

Claire, give me the why, though.

[E]

I just, I don't have any belief at all. It would change the gameplay. Like I, I don't have any. Maybe, like what people will talk less. You have like three days to talk. Like, it's not like, no, but you can easily lie.

[C]

Nobody's gonna know.

[E]

And so then they just read out like Ben was evicted and everyone's like,

[D]

hey, by a majority vote.

[C]

By a majority vote, the votes are in.

[D]

I think the thing is she used

[C]

to say that by a majority vote

[D]

when I was evicted. She, she did say that, but also there were only two people voting.

[E]

So did I just think that it is a nice theory that people can throw out when there is boring gameplay, but it would not actually change what the votes were because how many votes are. Would actually be five to four. Like how many? That's a genuine question.

[C]

We don't know, Claire, because she keeps telling us. But maybe if she wasn't able to allow to say it and then I know that nobody's going to know who voted for who or how many votes a person got. I can slide a vote one way

[E]

and I think they would. But like last week, for example, right? Like potentially that could have been the closest vote possible. Right? But then once you have Taylor saying, in no world am I voting for lala, they can count the votes and say, okay, well, I'm not going to throw this vote this way.

[C]

Taylor could be a liar. But I'm saying, I'm not saying she is, but everybody can be a liar in Big Brother.

[E]

Okay? And you know what? Maybe I am coming around in this. I just feel like, no, let me stand firm.

[A]

You need to stand firm, Claire, because you shouldn't take the coin of destiny right now. You don't convince you to do something that you don't need to do.

[C]

If it makes, if it makes sense, if it makes sense. You have to be willing to be open minded. Don't be so firmly fixed on your idea without looking objectively to see could this work or not.

[A]

Hannah Chana?

[D]

Yeah, thank you, guys. I agree with both of you. I think, Claire, I would have been more liable to agree with you before the blockbuster was introduced. But I think now that the blockbuster has been introduced and there' a Lot more gray area as to who's going to go at the end of the week and people don't seem 100% committed to who they're going to vote for going into the blockbuster. I do think having an anonymous vote could rectify the unanimous. I'm not sure if that's a word

[C]

that we've seen in the expect the unexpected. Like, we already know what to expect every Thursday. Every Wednesday is the vo. Every Monday is the ho. We know what to expect.

[E]

Why not just get rid of the days where nothing happens and why not just make this Survivor with live feeds?

[D]

Thank you. No, no, no, no. I appreciate. No, I appreciate the fact that Big Brother is a long game. I think, like, we. We as. Is it okay if I say one thing, Derek?

[C]

A lot of things.

[D]

Okay, Okay. I was just gonna say, I get that as a player and even as a viewer, it can be frustrating from Monday when the veto ceremony happens to Thursday when the eviction happens. But at least in my experience, I felt like so much of my game occurred between Monday and Thursday. Because you're actively working on the relationships that you have in the house, I believe that is where the game happens because Big Brother is ultimately a social game. So I am a huge proponent of let's not get rid of those days. Let's not shorten the season unless it's like a special all winter season or, you know, runners up in AFPs. That is just my juxtaposition, my disposition, if you will.

[E]

And I, I would agree with that. I think having it be a hundred days and having it be torturous is what's interesting. And like, sorry, I know you wanted to say something Big D. But like, to get back to the point, like, I have faith. I think we even saw it today. Like, to. To your point of, aren't we bored? Like, I think Dee is bored in there. Like, Dee is starting to potentially throw around. What if we flip? She is kind of. While we were talking, she was like talking with Lyric and kind of being a little messy. Like, I think as what they're on day 28 now. Like, as we're past. And I think for like Devins, once we get past like day 31, day 32, and they're like, oh, my gosh, this is a long time. Like, I think they will feel let me flame out and have fun or let me go home.

[A]

Basically, my. My only theory is, I do agree, like, we shouldn't cut things down. I might maybe if Big Brother was two hours a week, you know, it's Just a lot because, for example, I sometimes I skip. I'm like, I already knew it. Like, I skipped Sunday. I'm probably gonna skip tomorrow because look where we're at now. We. We have. I mean, I'm just being honest. Here we go. We got HOH, which is bubbly Ms. Personality, the greatest personality on earth, Ms. Haley. Then we have. We have Drew on the block. We have lyric on the block. And then we have Melody on the block. And shout out to Melody because I love somebody who's like, she called her a bitch and she's like, yeah, I did say what I said and I appreciate that. She's like, I'm not gonna play this girl's girl shit with you. But as clear say, I just turned on the live feed and for the first time, I actually saw Barrett doing something. And Barrett was kind of spilling out a little bit of what's going on the other side with Mallory. I mean, with. Is it Mallory? Because there's so many damn m's.

[E]

Yeah, Mallory.

[A]

Yeah. So he's having a conversation with Mallory and I'm like, okay, so something could happen. But I don't know. I'm really confused with this season. And Rob, correct me if I'm wrong, and I always. I could be wrong. I like to think I'm right. But starting out this season only allowing three players to play in the HOH is already giving suspicious. Already giving rigatorious. I made up that word. Okay. Rigatorious. Thank you.

[C]

I like it.

[A]

And it's just like, what is the season like?

[C]

How can you do that and incorporate my question with his question? Rob.

[B]

Yes. About the. The vote.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So I do feel like I say, why not? Let's try it. I do fear that we're still going to get maybe instead of Ashley getting voted out 14 to 0, Ashley gets voted out 12 to 2. Like, I. I don't think that j. I don't think any of the votes would have been different if we didn't reveal the vote count, But I feel like, what's the harm in trying it? Maybe we're going to lose a hinky vote here or there, but I feel like let's see what happens. I'm. I'm totally open to it. I do think that Chada makes a good point about in the scramble after the blockbuster, maybe something could go awry. I do think they talk about it a lot during the week, so I don't think it's likely. But, hey, what's. What's the harm? But in terms Of Big D. I forgot. What was your. What was your part of the question?

[A]

No, no, no. Just my part of the question is just like, y.

[B]

Since the beginning.

[C]

Was it rigat to you?

[B]

It was overpowered to have a first hoh have to be one of the vets and then also vote for somebody to get a power. And you have people who have fan bases already. So I think it's like, what did you expect was gonna happen?

[A]

Of course, three in a row. Three in a row, Rob. And then on top of that, I

[B]

do think Jason would have got the power this week.

[A]

I do agree with that. I do agree with that.

[D]

Which he already came into the house with a fan. A fan base.

[E]

Yeah, Right.

[A]

So four of these people got fandom. But then on top of that, you're just dealing with, like, I don't know if I was a house guest. I'm not gonna lie. Production would hate me. I would have been like, y' all got my black ass. Incorrect. You thought you were gonna bring us a reality star. And they do hate me. They do hate me. That's why they don't call me. But production hates me. Production hates me. So they would have hated me even more because I would have been like, you motherfuckers. Brought in some reality stars, and you expect me to be on where I don't have a time to shine and make my own moment. Oh, I'm annoyed. Especially because me, I was trying to go on TV to be a reality star, so, hell, yeah, I would have been annoyed. You brought in four people. Three people. I would have knew who Jason was. So four people. I would have been like, what the fuck? So, yeah, I think it's a little rigorous for me. I'm not here for it. What's clar bear?

[E]

What would your strategy have been to combat it, then?

[A]

Oh, to combat what's going on, yeah, of course.

[E]

Like, how do you.

[A]

I would have been like. Like Jimmy. When Jimmy saw Rachel last season, I would have been like, we need to target these ve. But if they would have automatically said the vets are the only ones that play in the hoh. Oh, baby. I would have been heated in that doctor. I'd have been heated.

[C]

Yeah, but that still doesn't answer. What's your strategy?

[A]

Oh, my strategy is just to kiss their ass until I get a second to kick them out.

[C]

So you. So you'd be essentially doing what they're doing right now?

[A]

Only for week two. After that, I don't really give a fuck. I'm annoyed. After that, I'm Letting it down.

[E]

Why is it a two week strategy?

[A]

Because I can only do so much ass kicks it for one time. Angela would have worn me out. Dee and Rick Devins, I would have been like, what the fuck are we doing with Survivor players? And I would have worked with Jason because I love Drew Brawl's Drag Race. It was a smile on my face. But they could. They're not doing enough for me. But I do agree. I'm happy that Taylor. Taylor's the only reason why I feel like this week is a little bit interesting. Because she won the veto and now I'm like, okay, she won the veto. That means we can shake it up a little bit. Haley's not gonna get her way. But let me ask you ladies this. Haley has been talking on. I don't even know.

[C]

You're not asking Rob.

[B]

That's fine.

[A]

Hold on. You didn't let me Finish my question, Ms. Mitchell. Oh, Haley's been on a live feed saying, I don't wanna get rid of women. I don't wanna get rid of women. There's so many women that have to go. So many women that they're trying to get out. But two of her nominees are women.

[C]

Yeah. It's always the ones that speak about it that don't be about it.

[A]

Okay. I just want to ask that question to you lovely ladies because it was a woman's question that did kind of.

[D]

It did crack me up in the. Oh, my God. It did crack me up. In Sunday's episode when Haley was talking to. I think it was Barrett and she said something along the lines of, well, you know, you're going to look at the memory wall and none of the women are going to be left. And Barrett was like, with the last two people who have gone home were men. And Hailey was like, well, yes, but like eventually. And Barrett was like, I'm not really understanding what's happening right now. I just felt like that was funny. That cracked me up.

[C]

Haley only sees things the way she sees them. And I hope she may have realized that she's projects a lot in her conversations with Taylor this week. I love how Taylor remembers every scenario that she's presented to her or situation that they have had. Yeah. A Rob scenario. She's presented several Rob scenarios and she has let. And Taylor is like, when Haley is trying to say, well, you made me feel like this or this is what you were doing. Taylor goes, no, actually that was what you were doing.

[E]

Mm.

[D]

Mm.

[C]

Like I didn't make you feel any kind of way.

[D]

I.

[C]

You didn't come talk game to me. I actually did come talk game to you. I came to you and I asked you, who do you want to be? Whatever she asked, who do you think will be nominated or won a nominator or whatever? Oh, I don't remember that. So it's my fault that you don't remember that I tried to talk game with you, so you accused me of not trying to talk game with you. Well, when I tried to come and talk to you and you or Jason were in the room, and then when I came in, you guys were quiet and you didn't make me feel welcome, and you said you wouldn't like if somebody did that to you. So I felt like you guys were talking about me. Jason was talking about you. I was just listening. Well, you're friends with Lala, so she's the only other black woman in this house. And I can't have a conversation. I can't be friends with somebody. Haley is a lot for me, and I really try to keep my mouth shut about my personal opinions about houseguests, but I'm not liking a lot of the way she. I am appreciating her for turning it around sometimes, though, like, she is trying to turn herself around.

[D]

But what do you mean by that?

[C]

Just, like, allowing. She's trying to listen a little more, to own some accountability in. I had a part to play in the way I felt or what I thought versus I'm putting everything on you.

[D]

That's mature.

[E]

Yeah. I don't know if I would get peptides from her, but.

[A]

Claire, you ate that. I just. I'm very interested in Haley.

[C]

And was she mad that somebody tried to get her peptides?

[E]

No. That's what she does. That's what her job is.

[B]

Yeah. I saw on her dad's website that he's got, like, a YouTube channel also.

[E]

Oh.

[A]

But I'm gonna bring him onto the pot. No, I'm not.

[B]

Probably not going to.

[C]

Rob, how do you feel about this week? What do you think is going on?

[B]

Well, with Haley? I mean, I think that all of it. Yeah, I think it's.

[D]

We're.

[B]

I'm ready to see somebody from the other side of the house get power. And Haley I do think was gonna be messy, which I think was probably better than last week where Kamu was just being a tyrant. And so it has not been fun. But I think that at least like. Like, Haley has been, you know, a bad hoh in a more entertaining way.

[A]

I think it's just a little too much. Haley to me is like, she want to be all bark but no bite. Like, I like being like. I just want to make it clear I'm not gonna do all this like friendly, friendly stuff. You can't eat my snacks. You can't use my bathroom. You guys.

[C]

I don't want those snacks.

[B]

They sugar free anyway, right?

[A]

Who want that?

[C]

She was so pissed about that.

[A]

That part.

[C]

Did you hear her? Did you hear her say, like, I just.

[D]

No peptides for Taylor. No peptides.

[A]

No peptides for Taylor. No, no, no collab. But it's just like when she's doing all that, it's weird to me because somebody from the other side should be acting like that if they want. Hoh, girl, you've been safe this whole entire time. Your. Your side of the house.

[C]

No, she had a rough three weeks, Melanie. A rough three weeks.

[D]

Melody tore her apart on Sunday's episode and I loved it.

[C]

I loved it so much.

[A]

But it's just weird.

[D]

Wait, I thought you didn't watch Sunday's episode.

[A]

I just watched it when I saw a clip. When I took like a nap real quick. I did watch it. I just fast forward to the end because I wanted to see Melanie's part because it was all over Twitter, but otherwise.

[C]

Melody. Melody. Melody was on Love Island.

[A]

Oh, Melody.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes. You know, problems, they cover everything, baby.

[D]

No, I. I know, I know. Rajp covers everything.

[A]

Yes. Did you love Love Island?

[B]

I did love Love island, yes.

[A]

You like all that?

[B]

You'll. I never watched it before, and this was the first season I watched.

[C]

Me too, Rob. I don't know if I have to watch another season, but it was interesting.

[B]

I really did enjoy it.

[C]

Oh, good.

[B]

Claire had a lot of great takes on Love Island.

[E]

Thank you, Rob. And I appreciate you shouting out my takes as well as for Zach Scheme.

[B]

Yes. Turn me around on Zach, which was no.

[E]

Really? Then he got a lot of shit outside the house, and so then.

[B]

Yeah, that's good.

[D]

Wait, as in, like, you were. You were a Zach supporter before, and then Claire convinced you?

[B]

I think I had no opinion Zach. And then. And then Claire said that he was really trying to play the game. I said, okay, let me look at this because I honestly, I don't even know how you win Love island at that point.

[C]

Now, the first. First of all, Hannah, y' all should know from the very beginning, what did I say? I said no for me. Then I say it when y' all were like, oh, we like Zach for Katie. I said, no.

[D]

I didn't say that.

[C]

I don't know about that.

[D]

I never said that.

[C]

Okay, okay. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[D]

No, no, no. It's okay. It's okay. You and I were on the same page. We were on the same page. Okay.

[E]

It's very interesting because I feel like Zach was kind of playing Big Brother, but I do feel like Lyric is kind of playing Love Island.

[C]

Love Island.

[E]

And she, as she said on the feeds, had gone through casting for Love Island.

[C]

Damn.

[D]

Ooh, I wonder if Lyric would have ended up with you.

[B]

Said she's boring exploring.

[A]

No, she's great. She's pulling people for a chat. She knows. Let me tell you something. I appreciate Lyric because I see. I do now see her for who she is. You know, she could have walked into the pool forward, but she walked in the pool like this.

[E]

That's what you were doing, Bigby, in that house?

[A]

Oh, yeah, Claire, I was trying to get you in my. You know. These chocolate.

[B]

Was that what Mama Fee was doing?

[C]

Baby, he's backing it up, backing it up, backing it up.

[A]

If we had that video, I'm telling you, it would.

[C]

Don't let me. Don't make me find it. Tag us.

[D]

There's a clip on Twitter.

[C]

In Twitter, they be using it for, like.

[B]

Yeah,

[D]

I started, like, when I. When I'm on my deathbed at 104 years old, I'm going to look back, and that will be one of the things that just flashes into my mind, will forever be ingrained in my head.

[A]

Yes, she was. It was.

[D]

But it was the phase, too.

[A]

It was the phase. And we. And Tiffany had to come over and be like, mama Fee. Hold on, hold on. Cause we on Instagram Live. Hold on now.

[D]

She was like, I know.

[C]

It was just her and the camera.

[D]

She was like, I know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It was just like that. We all in the back, and it's just her in the camera just backing it up.

[E]

No, we.

[D]

We really all got out of the way and we were like. You just see these people staring at her, and it's. It's the cookout, and we're like, how much longer do we want this to go on?

[A]

Turn around.

[C]

I said, oh, okay.

[B]

What prompted her to start twerking?

[C]

Because we were at the club. No, we were at the club, and it was just the music, you know?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I went live at the Rob.

[A]

Don't you twerk? Don't you twerk?

[C]

It was. I was a house chops party, but

[D]

then we ended up going to Legos

[B]

after on the podcast.

[A]

But do you twerk? Like, if we go out, would you twerk. Like, could we get. Like, can we go out twerking?

[C]

Rob, just say no. Just say no to drugs and twerk.

[D]

You know, I feel like Rob is laughing because it's a yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If he's doing all your stuff. I can see you.

[C]

I can see you with your hands on your knees.

[B]

Sure, sure.

[A]

You put hands on your knees.

[B]

Yeah, we can all imagine that.

[A]

Okay, we gonna get a video of all of us hands on the knees, twerking.

[B]

Nah.

[C]

Ain't gonna do it.

[B]

Just to know it was AI. Okay.

[C]

Why do I feel like Rob looks like that gift with that cartoon and that girl be like, burgers.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Jesus Christ. Rob said he's not doing them or play dates with us. He said, this is it.

[C]

Don't air this. Do not air that's. All of that.

[A]

Mom's like, not until maybe a year or two.

[C]

See, this is when you get to be Rob scenario.

[A]

Yes. Okay, so wait. Back to Lyric, because Clear was saying that real quick. I just want to kind of wrap that up. She is doing great to the point that she got. What's his name.

[B]

She's doing great, but she.

[C]

Michael, Haley doesn't like her. Okay.

[A]

I tell her Haley doesn't like her because Hailey. Because now she got. What's her name doing work.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Thank you. I would never speak again.

[C]

Okay. See, that's what I was gonna say.

[A]

Yes. They got him doing, like. He wants to protect Lyric, and now Haley's like, what?

[C]

I cannot understand how that's just men for you. And I'm sorry, men. But that.

[D]

Just men for you.

[C]

They can't read the room. You don't come in here and tell this woman who's hoh and an athlete who tried to take Lyric out in the last veto first. Who do you want to go against? Haley? I want to go against Lyric, who ends up winning the veto and pissed Lyric off. You gonna come and sit. I mean, piss Haley off? You gonna come and sit down in Haley's face and tell her, I think we gotta get Lyric. Like, we can get rid of Drew. Replace Drew with Lyric. She's smarter than everyone thinks. She's this. She's this. She's that. Haley's like, yeah, I don't really think so right now. Don't keep telling her all the shit that Haley can do. She don't care about what Haley can do. She tried to tell Rome all the stuff she could do. I think Haley wanted to be like with the guys, and Lyric is filling that spot. So she's like, Lyric, baby, it can only be one of us, and it ain't gonna be you.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

This sound like a Tyler Perry story,

[C]

but that's a Tyler Perry immunity idol.

[D]

The Medea idol. That Christian. Oh, my God. Christian said that?

[E]

Tyler Perry.

[A]

Yeah. Do you have Christian? That was.

[D]

I can't believe Christian. If you're watching this, we love you back anytime. We love you so much. Kristen's not. But it's okay.

[A]

We're gonna have a Tyler Perry Madea idol for you, for sure. Or veto. Or veto at this point.

[D]

Okay, question. I want to touch on something either Claire or Tiffany said about. I can't remember which one. Sorry about.

[C]

We're the same game.

[E]

Same game. Yeah.

[D]

Same game. Okay. Me and big D were playing the same. I also love how it's the big D on here, not just Big D. Is there a reason why you changed it this week?

[A]

You know, today I woke up and I said I want to be the big D on outhouse. So I go by the big D because I don't want other people to think that there's other big Ds. I am the big.

[C]

There are other big Ds?

[A]

Yeah. If you go to pornhub, but in real life, on regular.

[C]

Pause.

[A]

Pause. Come on.

[C]

Cut it. Okay, Hannah, it is officially just your turn to speak.

[E]

And speak.

[D]

This is nuts. Okay. Oh, yes. Okay. So de getting bored is considering keeping Drew because Drew has showed, I don't want to say unwavering loyalty to the crossovers, but he hasn't questioned them at all. He doesn't seem to be paranoid. He seems like he has a lot of implicit trust in them. And so as Dee and Devins, as. I mean, Angela's a bit paranoid, but as D and Devins, I'd go, this guy obviously trusts me a lot, so why wouldn't I trust him? Do we see Drew staying this week? Do we think a vote flip could happen if it's executed by Dee and Devins?

[B]

I mean, if they want it to happen, it'll happen. I think that they certainly could do it. I think it's just one of those things where they're talking about it on Tuesday. Get back to me on Thursday when they want to do it. I still think that they've talked about it for so long. They have to convince Angela. I'll be surprised if it happens Thursday night. I'll be excited, but I don't think it's likely to happen.

[C]

Drew still has no idea that he is the main target, the big D.

[E]

That's crazy.

[C]

Drew b Big D. Yeah.

[E]

A Big D. Wait, no, wait.

[A]

Big D.

[C]

One big D. Yeah.

[B]

The bb.

[D]

Big D. B.

[C]

Big D. B, B, D. Bvbd.

[D]

Okay, chat bcc. Make sure you subscribe.

[C]

Use my link below.

[A]

Shout out to chat bcc. Go ahead.

[E]

Okay, wait. I was gonna say, I think that as much as, like, I wish Drew knew, I do kind of think it's in his best interest that he doesn't right now. Like, I think Devin's in D mainly D. It seems like right now is still, like. Well, he would still be with us and would still be targeting red corner. And I think as long as that is the story he's telling, it's not gonna bother Dee and Devins that much. But if it gets to him. Oh, Dee and Devins also wants this. I could see him switching up very quickly, and then at that point, DN Devins will not allow that at all. Like, I think, like. So it is a very fine line of, like, him. He can't find out. But then if he doesn't find out, he can't blow things up. Up. And if I'm Barrett, I would want him to blow stuff up. But I also understand him being nervous and not wanting that at the same time.

[A]

Can I also ask, what do we feel about this power? This power bribe.

[C]

Explain it. Can we explain this power? She just got to bribe somebody. 5,000. She got to bribe somebody to do something. And do they know? Go ahead, Claire.

[E]

Okay, so how it works. I read the instructions. Okay. Okay. Watching the episodes and pausing. Yes.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Going to a storage room, opening the rule book.

[E]

Exactly. Really? You do learn a lot of things reading that rulebook. So what it basically is. It's $5,000 that she can give anyone publicly or privately, and for some action. And they have to do that action to get the 5k.

[C]

Do they know that she's giving them 5k?

[E]

I think that is part. Yes, that is. But I don't think it's clear if, like, it can be used for a jury vote, for example. I think that's a little bit nebulous.

[C]

And probably it was like, get somebody to vote a certain way. Like, what if I was already going to vote a certain way? Go ahead, Hannah. Sorry.

[D]

Oh, well, I. I think at that point, if you accept the bribe, you just have to do what she tells you.

[B]

Can't change it. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. If someone had bribed you $5,000 to vote for them on the jury, would you have taken it? Because I have.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

That's half the money I made I don't, I don't know.

[C]

And, and at this point you don't even know if you're gonna make it.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. I can imagine she probably wouldn't do that until much time.

[C]

Big D, can you believe this? Big D went ahead and won him $7,500. He didn't care about us.

[A]

No, I didn't care.

[B]

If you would have had a bunch of these bribe powers, you could have had the win.

[A]

I know, right? They could. This would have been great for me. I would have just gave everybody 5,000.

[C]

Okay, what was that Domino game? What's that? Domino game.

[A]

Once again. What do I look like trying to save Xavier? Like, Xavier was fine. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm going for the money.

[E]

I might as well have gone for that money.

[C]

Clear.

[A]

I don't know what to tell you. With these powers, the only power I wish they would put in the game. There used to be a power back in the day where you could throw the HOH without all that Coin of Destiny. Because right now I think there was a power debt I think they had back in the day where you could throw the HOH without flipping this coin or whatever.

[D]

The coup d'.

[C]

Etat.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Oh, overthrow the hoh. Okay, thank you.

[B]

Not throw the hoh.

[E]

You can throw that.

[C]

Any lead?

[A]

Yeah, just throw the hoh. Just fuck em Throw it. But my thing is that this Coin of Destiny for me, I think is stupid because of the fact that it's like I gotta hope for a coin flip and I hate that. Like, I think Rick Devin has the best power power out of everybody.

[C]

But nobody has the Coin of Destiny.

[B]

Yes. But it's, I'm so happy that I'm here because that I got to go back and I had to watch the clips from the Coin of Destiny to,

[C]

to understand how memory hold that.

[B]

I'm so sorry. I, I, I was like, what the hell is the Coin of Destiny? And so I, and then here I am watching old clips, watching Tiffany flip this big ass coin.

[A]

Big ass coin. She said they were like real hard.

[C]

They were hit it real hard. I said, all right, I don't know, it didn't work.

[D]

But

[B]

Claire, were you happy that they brought it back? This is so iconic, we need to bring it back.

[C]

Claire said, bury that. Kill it.

[E]

Guys. For a brief period this week, I was so excited. I was like, wait, you're saying someone did the Coin of Destiny worse than I did? I like as soon as I saw this power, I was like, God damn. People are gonna start talking about this Coin of Destiny. Again. And I've just been sitting sweating. Every week. I'm like, oh, God, I hope Devin doesn't get it. And then it was like, oh, maybe Drew got it and he didn't use it. And then I was online, I was

[B]

like, can you believe this stupid idiot used it?

[E]

If nothing else. But then, alas, it seems like it is not the case, and I am still the only Coin of Destiny recipient.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[A]

It's still.

[E]

Hopefully got brought up a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's still hope, Claire. Somebody can come and take it and not use it or.

[C]

And play it worse than you.

[E]

Claire.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[E]

Okay, tell me why. And I don't want to maybe need to cut this. I don't want it. I don't want to get anyone in trouble. The night I got evicted from Big Brother, I think it was that night. Maybe it was like, when we went into sequester for jury and they, like, put us in the hotel. A PA came up to me. No, it was the night I got evicted. A PA came up to me and was like, why'd you do that with the Coin of Destiny? And I was like, what? I was like, I literally had never. He was like, why didn't you put up, like, all the cookout guys? He, like, didn't say the cookout guy, but he was like, why didn't you put up all the guys? I was like, you know, I've. I. I was like, oh. I had never thought about it. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, good call.

[A]

Damn, I hope they're not working no more. That's traumatizing. I just got out the house, and you over here. Yeah, I ain't checked my phone yet to know what the hell is going on.

[E]

Big Brother bas do not play, I'll tell you that.

[D]

I guess they don't.

[A]

They do not. They do not.

[D]

That is so wild.

[A]

I don't have anything else for this week. I don't know if you guys have any.

[D]

Okay, well. Period. Okay. So who do we think goes home? It's a Tuesday night. We don't want.

[C]

I do not want Melody going home. I don't care what happens. I need Melody to stay in this house.

[D]

Mm.

[E]

Can I ask the people? And this is not. This is such an aside jotter. Like, I think Drew's going to know, like. Like, four times out of five. How do we think D and Devin does on Traders, Right? Like, surely, hypothetically, they get out of the house.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't know how long contract lasts. They'll get an Email eventually how they do that.

[B]

So I think that De will be a traitor and be incredible at it. She'll be really, really good and she'll like swear on her life that she's not. I think she'll really, really good. I think that.

[C]

Promise you that's kamu. Sorry.

[B]

Yeah. Rick will be faithful and he will be loud and accuse a bunch of people and. Yeah, Yeah, I think so.

[E]

Maybe not. Maybe not quite, but.

[B]

But yeah, he's not like bombastic, but I do think that he's gonna like, have like a lot of like crazy theories about who the traitors are.

[D]

Kind of like Tom Sandoval, maybe. It's Dolores. Are we kind of thinking Tom Sandoval?

[C]

No, Tom Sandoval wasn't that active. I think Devins would be more active, more actively involved in the strategizing of who is a traitor and vocalizing it. So maybe like a pilot. Pete.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It also would depend on Claire how this plays out, because, you know, Dee made it clear she ain't telling nobody about the power, not even Rick Devin. So if Rick Devin finds out that Dee was lying to her.

[C]

She didn't lie. But omission can be considered a lie. But she didn't lie unless he asked her and then she lied. Did he ask her?

[E]

They did.

[B]

They had like a whole thing of like, okay, you'll tell me if you get the power. And they had a code word.

[C]

She's like, no, she lied.

[B]

But I don't think he's gonna be pissed. I think he'll be like. I think he'll be like, if he finds out that she lied, he'll be like, oh, that. That sucks. But I don't unless it messages anything different. Yeah, well, how's the bribe going? To screw him up?

[C]

Sure.

[A]

I don't know. I would tell somebody. I need you to go for them.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm just still thinking big D that why didn't you tell five people? Like, hey, I'll give you $5,000 when you get out of the house.

[C]

You have the money whispering in their ears. Yeah, just tell us on our way out the door, like, hey, you vote

[B]

for me, I'll give you $5,000.

[A]

I should have. I won't make that mist. I promise you that. I'm. I'm doing everything.

[E]

You guys all got very nice watches from Xavier. You know, I didn't get a watch.

[D]

You went on the Amazing Race and you won a million dollars. So I don't want to hear this from you.

[A]

Yeah, clear. Your redemption is way Better than all of ours. Put it like that.

[E]

It's iconic right now.

[B]

I just really.

[C]

He should have got y' all to watch. He should have got y' all to watch.

[A]

Everybody watch.

[C]

Yeah, everybody that voted for him. I get it.

[A]

Especially, especially Brittany d' Low should have got her a big old watch for voting for him. Okay. 100%.

[B]

I just feel like that we hacked the game that we found out that the cost of a jury vote is actually very cheap.

[E]

How low? Wait, Rob, are you saying you wouldn't take Survivor Pays a lot of money. That's the thing. That's what you don't understand, Rob. The person who gets last place, last place makes more than I made for a season of Big Brother. That Schwartz Burger made like double almost the amount of money that I made.

[B]

What about Cory Wurttenberger?

[C]

He made the same.

[E]

I think he made the same.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And this is why I say survival.

[C]

So, Rob, we don't even have $5,000 to give nobody any when we.

[B]

If you win.

[C]

Yeah, that's the only. That's the only thing.

[E]

Thing.

[D]

I do like your hypothetical question. How low would you go?

[E]

Yeah. How low would you go for jury vote? Yeah, for a jury vote, I think

[C]

it would be 5, 000.

[E]

Let's go around.

[B]

But it's like, do you hate the other person? Like, I, I feel like that on your jury, like, I think that people probably, like, it wasn't like, oh, I, you know, I can't stand one of the people in the final two. Oh, sometimes you have a person that you hate.

[A]

They hated me. They hated me.

[D]

No one hated you.

[E]

Hate is such a strong word.

[D]

Yeah, well, because you hated her first. It was reactionary.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

You had one sided beef with everyone on our season.

[C]

No one hated you.

[A]

Not the thumbs up. Okay, I will say this. I would. I. For a jury vote. 5,000 is a lot. Big Brother and Survivor. No, but Big Brother. Yes.

[C]

But here's the thing. Like, what if those people were actually going to vote for you? So now I got to pay you 5,000 and you were going to vote for me anyway. So just go play a. Go play a $750,000 worthy game and keep the money.

[E]

There you go.

[B]

Yeah. Also, like, if you vote for somebody the fans don't like, sometimes the fans can be on your ass. Like on the original Edge of Extinction, Rick Devin's original season, like, people were big mad that people voted for Tiffan, your, your castmate Chris Underwood to win in that season. They're like, how could you Vote for the person who got voted out. And so sometimes for $5,000, it might not be worth it to just have people, like, just dragging you on social media.

[C]

So how do you feel about that? A person gets. I'm sorry, Hannah, go ahead.

[D]

No, I was just gonna say, when you're in the house, you have no idea what the fans think of you.

[A]

Yeah, true.

[C]

You're. Yes. What I was going to say is, speaking of getting voted out and being able to come back and win, what is. What are your thoughts on that, Rob? Because that's how Jag won his season.

[B]

You know, I do feel like that with Jag, it was pretty pure in that he never left the house. It was sort of like, you know, the eviction was basically canceled. Like, he.

[E]

He.

[B]

He got voted out, and then what was it that Matt used the power and canceled the eviction afterwards, so.

[C]

Yeah, but they voted him out.

[B]

Yes, he did technically get voted out, but he was never out of the game. So I feel like out of all of the scenarios where that type of thing has happened, I feel like that that was like, one of the least.

[C]

The.

[B]

The impact least. Yeah. Ones where it was. It wasn't like, oh, well, he didn't have to play for three weeks, and then he came back.

[C]

How long? Chris didn't have to play for three weeks.

[E]

Weeks.

[B]

He was. He got voted out on day eight or nine and came back in the game at, like, day 36.

[A]

He's so iconic. What is Chris like, Ron?

[E]

What?

[D]

Wait, that's.

[B]

I don't know. I don't know him that well.

[D]

You don't know him.

[C]

I'm have to go watch this season.

[A]

Yeah, I'm gonna go watch it.

[C]

Well, he threw. He threw. He threw a ball on me, and I'm still trying to get over it, and I got eliminated by that ball.

[A]

You're so lucky. I wish he would throw a ball on me.

[C]

I'm gonna throw a ball at you. Okay. Yes.

[A]

The big D. No, Rob, I love Chris under, but, like, oh, God,

[D]

no. I just have a question about Chris Underwood season. So he didn't have to play Survivor for 28 days, so he was on Edge of Extinction.

[B]

And so they weren't really playing the game. They were just sort of like, surviving. And then he won a challenge on day 36 against all the other people that were on the edge of extinction. And then he came back into the game, but he had been sort of like, like having a brainstorm with all the people there. Like, here's what you do when you get back in the. Say this to this person. And then you got to win the challenge. And then everybody was like, he did it. And they were like, that's great. You totally did the plan.

[E]

It's like if someone had been in jury house with us the entire time and then went back in, like, a week before, and we were like, well, if you do this, and then this. Well, I think that's a winning game because, like, you want to imagine yourself winning, you know? So I'm like, well, if I do

[C]

this, it's like Brittany going back into the game after spending all that time with us in jury, but not spending anytime with Derek and Xavier. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying, like, Derek and Xavier see her come into the game, or Derek Aza and Xavier see Brittany come into the game. She ends up sitting there and winning. And they're like, you haven't been here in all of this time. But we have spent time with her to hear the strategy that she goes into the house implements and ends up in the final seats. And then we vote for her. That's kind of how it went. Okay.

[A]

Icon, legend, I would have voted for. For him.

[D]

What if. What if that had happened on our season

[A]

before 23, I would throw the whole game away.

[E]

Rises up.

[D]

No, no, no, no. We obviously love Britney, but, like, imagine after everything that happened, Britney walks in 80.

[A]

Whatever.

[C]

Sorry.

[D]

Not five.

[E]

Iconic.

[C]

Iconic.

[E]

Like coaching Britney.

[C]

I'm like, britney, Britney, you got it. So now you gotta go do it. Go do it. Yeah, honestly. And then she goes in the house and she does it. I'm definitely voting for her. I'm voting. She's winning. That's what happened. She's on the block with Babier.

[E]

Forget.

[D]

Forget the cookout. Forget it.

[A]

What season was that for Chris? With Chris, so I could watch it. Okay, okay.

[D]

The full government name.

[A]

Is that the season that we like? Tiff. Because of the underwear.

[E]

He's in underwear a lot.

[C]

I haven't seen his.

[A]

We need to bring back the underwear and Survivor. I'm bored with these.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

He said, thank the Lord, Jesus, but we need more of it. We need the first Underwood.

[C]

Underwood. So. Wow. Yes.

[B]

Yes. What is it?

[C]

Where do we go from here? It's like every time somebody come over our house, a guest, and y' all tell me y' all gonna put on y' all best behavior or some kind of good behavior.

[A]

I have a collar on.

[C]

It's not tight enough. I want it to.

[A]

So anyway, I could have came in here looking like Yass, you know, with a bridle pad on the back of my head.

[C]

You look like Yas.

[D]

Who is Yas?

[C]

You're looking like. No. So anyway, Right. Rob.

[B]

Yes. Would you.

[C]

Who you want to win this season?

[B]

I. You know, I feel like it would be. It. Listen, I don't want to be underdog, you know, for. It would. It would be very nice for. For D or for Rick to. To win. I don't really have, like, I. I want to. I want to find somebody to really root for, but I haven't really fallen in love with rookies yet.

[D]

What about Lyric? I thought we were both lyricists. What happened?

[B]

I like. I like Lyric. I really. I think she's a very good player, but if she goes home on Thursday, I'll also be like, I'll be fine.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you going to play. Should we play the Katy Perry sound if she goes home on Thursday? No. You came all the way across the country to look cute.

[B]

Yeah, but Lyric is. I. I think that she. Of those three people that are on the block, I think she might be the best player here. But what. What I fear is that if she gets an hoh, I think she might put up Mallory and Melody. And, yeah, you know, she could certainly, like, hey, like, everybody that's in power, look what I'm doing in my hoh, I'm helping you win the game. So what.

[C]

What does. What does Drew do?

[B]

He. I think he puts up Kamu and Chuck and Haley.

[D]

I think so, too. And Melody.

[C]

Andrew needs to say day. His Lyric needs to go home. Buy Lyric. Sing your songs at home.

[B]

I think she's actually a very good player, though. Lyric.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

We did.

[A]

She got a man to like her when she just had a man that she was kissing on. And this man's already ready to throw his damn underwear at her, throw his whole game away for her.

[D]

Rob, why do you think Lyric is a really good player? Because it seems as though a lot of people are, Susan, when it comes

[B]

to her in the house.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, I think that she certainly has a way of convincing people to do what she wants them to do.

[C]

And I think I'm gonna do anything wrong. I'll do what you need me to do. If you just tell me, I'll work with you.

[B]

But it's working. And I think that people are, like, their radar is sort of alarmed. Is that right? That she's effective in being able to manipulate people in the house. And I think that that's a really impressive skill that she has. And so. But I Think it's not going unnoticed. I just think that she's flying too close to the sun. And so I think that she's the probably the most capable player that's on the block this week. And I worry for Lyric that people are going to wake up on Thursday and say, like, yeah, she's actually more dangerous than Drew or Melody. Why don't we take her out this week? Lyric to a number for Kamu.

[A]

Do you have an answer for that? Lyric?

[D]

Oh,

[C]

if you want me to take out. Like, I took out my boyfriend, I didn't have a problem with that. It all depends on what you want me to do. Tell me. What do you want me to do? What do you want me to take out? What do you want me to take out?

[A]

No, you could stay, Right? That's exactly how the conversation goes.

[C]

I do think Lyric might be playing a more better. A better social game. I would like for someone who is going to go against the grain and not just keep letting this ride the way it has been. So for me, that would be like, I would want Drew to stay or Melody to stay. But if Drew is going to be. If he's gonna go back dormant, I need his virus to stay active. If he's gonna go back dormant, then he can go out the doormat. But if Lyric is going to be active but on the wrong side, she's an active virus that could go dormant. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

She gave up. On the other side, I think she's like, you know what? I tried to make it work with these people. They don't know what they're doing. I'm throwing you with the people that are in power.

[D]

But she's also so disloyal, which is probably my favorite thing about her. I know that sounds bad, but Big Brother, I. Exactly. I like the fact that she's embracing the game of Big Brother and she's not doing this whole honesty, integrity, BS that we saw for 13 weeks on Survivor 50 and that we've sort of seen some semblance of in the house. So even though Lyric is telling Haley, Chuck, Kamu she's not going to put them up, who is to say what Lyric's going to do next week if she. She stays Claire.

[E]

And to this point right now, I just checked, she's telling Mallory that she would throw them three up after one conversation with D where Dee was like, I wouldn't. Them. I wouldn't. Like, she's like, me and Devin's have your back, but think about it. And Derek was getting. I. I think that's the thing. All these people are.

[C]

There's no loyalty in this house.

[E]

Manipulatable. Especially when it comes to, like, deep D, who is very good at this. You know, Like, I think whatever D and Devins wants will happen. Unfortunately. Like, Like, I think it's like, oh, well, Mallory, go after red corner. Will Drew. Yeah, probably. Because that's what D and Devins wants to happen. What's interesting to me is thinking who will go after the vets?

[C]

Nobody

[A]

just wants.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

No, I don't have anything else.

[C]

All I have to say, and nobody is targeting Angela. As crazy as they try to say Angela is. We talked about everybody else but Angela except Angela. Angela is sitting pretty.

[D]

The fact that we talked about Chuck and Yash more in this podcast than Angela is crazy. I do want to point out because

[C]

everyone, Angela might win this season.

[D]

Season.

[C]

I'm going for Angela.

[D]

Is it okay if. Listen, my Amazing Race girl. My amazing. Yeah, you're wearing the Angela shirt. Diff. I did want to point out because everyone's been hyping up Dee's game and Devin's game. And I agree. I think they're doing very well. They're not hurting their games. And so that, to me, is their biggest strength. Angela, to me, has been even more active than Dee and Devin's in the sense that she wanted role out. Rome went home. She had her eyes set on Jason. Jason went home. She's had her eyes set on Drew for a very long time. Drew went home. The same thing happened on 26. He's about to go home. He might go home. Okay. Not just he's the target. He's the target as of now. So I will say whatever Angela manifests and wants ends up happening. I think she's a more active player than D and Devins, but her social game might not be as strong because she's seen as very.

[C]

Nobody's trying to get her out.

[D]

That's so true. That is so true. So I think the icons are in a really good position.

[C]

And she didn't even have a power. She ended up with a punishment. She was a big ass detective, Ed. And nobody's still trying to get her out.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

[A]

I think that the icons are too bigger of a threat in front of her, which I guess it does make sense for her to work with them because I'm not looking at Angela. I'm looking at Dee and Rick Devins. They have more relationships in the house. I need to cut them off some type of way. That's what it is. Angela's playing a little bit more lower than they are and that's her coming back. Like we said, season.

[C]

But is she really. She's paranoid. She's thinking. People are talking about her. She's going back. She is bringing seeds and dropping them. She's going to every hoh and telling what she heard. And nobody's saying, you know what Angela said.

[A]

No, of course that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying it's good. Hold on.

[C]

What'd you say, Rob?

[B]

That's the person that they should get to Scotland is Angela. She would be be the best as she would be the best at the round table. She would be like I saw something like she would be so going.

[E]

You think as a faithful.

[B]

That's a faithful. Faithful. She'd be good as a trader also. But I think I'm a traitor.

[C]

Why would you think that I'm a traitor?

[B]

I saw him.

[C]

I'm not a traitor. You're a traitor. Messy.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You're a mess. You're a messy traitor.

[B]

Low budget performance.

[A]

Your performance. I had a. You guys thought you came up to my hoh. You put on a good performance and

[B]

the traitors would take her to the fire of truth. She would go the whole way.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Message my contacts. Let them know I got somebody for you for season.

[B]

Whatever.

[D]

The thing about Angela is, and I don't want this to sound mean at all because I do think this is intentional on her part. She has this ability where people do not really take her seriously. Like that was the case on BB26. I've heard from multiple people and she ended up, I think, making it to top six or top five.

[C]

Six, I think.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. So I think Angela is just very good at managing her threat level like she does play. She is playing actively this season and realistically, she should be one of the biggest targets in there. And she's not making it easy for people to just live, laugh, love in the house. And yet people are not really taking her seriously. And I think that's going to benefit her. I hope that didn't sound mean because I'm most certainly not trying to come alive as offensive. And as I said, I think that's intentional on her part. I think she's very good at that.

[B]

I think her win condition is she's got to hold on to Haley for dear life and she's got to throw down the final two. Angela and Haley. Haley.

[C]

Why? Because. Because nobody likes Haley.

[E]

That's right.

[D]

But then what if Haley gets to final two and is like not a single one of you likes me and yet I'm still here.

[C]

I mean that's how the last couple of winners have. The last couple of winners have won like that except Chelsea.

[E]

What do you mean they weren't going like Vince? That, that was the issue like last season. Like.

[C]

Well, I heard different.

[E]

Okay, well up in the air to hear first.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I just mean like being able to stay along in the game and, and people overlooking the fact that you could get there and people would vote for you.

[E]

I, I always feel like whoever is at the final two has an argument like obviously, obviously you, you played better than me. You got there no matter how you did. Right. Like it's I. So I. But do I think people like Angela more than Haley?

[D]

Yes.

[E]

Like as of now, yes. Like I, I think Angela has a losing game against Dear Devins and so I think like Angela's strongest piece on the board is Haley. Like Haley trusts her a hundred percent way more than.

[C]

I don't think it would be like a shoe in though because Is anybody saying, I don't think anybody is saying that they don't like D or they don't like Devin's, but I also don't think anyone's saying that they don't like Angela.

[B]

Can I ask you, do you think a veteran or a reality, whether Angela, Rick, D, could they win over a first time player, do you think that a jury that is made up of first time players would vote for or one of the returning players?

[C]

I hope not.

[A]

I don't think so. I think if it's Angela up there, they would vote for Angela. But I think if it's a survivor player, I'm gonna be honest, I'm not voting for you. I don't want you to win.

[B]

But that's what Rick and D, it might make them go to the end with each other. It's like, hey listen, they're not gonna vote for that.

[C]

Their best, that's their best bet. I think that's why they have made amends like immediately walking in because, because maybe both of them know we are each other's best bet to sit next to each other.

[E]

I, I think we've, I mean we've seen returners win and we've seen returners lose at the final two. So Normie, I think it depends on how they play the jury and like how especially the, the non returners played the jury. Like if I'm in there, I'm trying to think do I want to be the person sitting next to them or do I want to make sure they're not in there? And if they're not in there, as soon as I hit jury, I. I'm like, I'm telling everyone I'm going to vote for them if they're in there.

[C]

Yes. On my way out the door, I

[E]

will vote for them because I'll be.

[C]

My biggest regret is not saying on my way out the door is if Big D is sitting in that final two seats. I will make sure he gets my vote. That is the thing I should have said.

[D]

Wait, why?

[A]

Because they get rid of me.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I said about X. I think there is like a, an argument to be made there. Okay, what do you think, Shadow? Okay.

[D]

I'm just having trouble understanding what you were saying before you said because you used a lot of pronouns, so.

[E]

Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right.

[D]

Okay. Yeah. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm sorry. Can. Can you break it down? No, no, not like that.

[E]

Basically, I, I was saying I. I think if I am a non returner in jury, depending on what I want me a non returner to be my in game strategy, I need to start hard. Either pitching that we cannot let them win or we can let them win, and then going either the opposite or like throw whatever I want to have happen. Whether I think I can comp out and win a the end. If I think me non returner can comp out and win at the end and maybe drag one of the returners.

[C]

You mean if you're in the house?

[E]

I'm in the house. I'm not a returner.

[D]

You're a newbie. You're a new.

[E]

I'm a newbie. I want to be saying, everyone, we cannot let them win. We can't let them win. Like, if they're at the end, we cannot vote for them. And then I take them to the end. So everyone will vote for me, myself. And I. I don't know if I'd have faith in myself winning a final three comp. So I would be saying to everyone, me, Melody's not that great at comps. Me, Melody, I'm like, if a returner sits at the end, I'm voting for them 100% of the time. And that is my cell. In the hopes that someone doesn't bring them and instead will me.

[D]

Well, God forbid there's a Kyland in the house. You're voting for Xavier. I have to sit next to.

[E]

Well, that's who I got that's the best player in there. And you know what? I would worry maybe about some of those players doing that like Ka Mu. So who knows?

[D]

May one of those players never find me in life ever. Kyland, I'm talking to you. Make sure you watch his his challenge recaps on the Heavy Crown network.

[C]

Yes, absolutely. First episode the Challenge premieres this Wednesday, August 5th. My birthday.

[E]

Yay.

[A]

Once again, Tiffany, happy birthday. We appreciate you letting us be a part of your little birthday festivities.

[C]

I appreciate you all just being a part of my life. A birthday is every day that I wake up. I am a day older. This time I'm just one full year.

[E]

What is your wish for your year?

[C]

Oh, girl, it's big. I hope to get a grasp on what my future goals and dreams are and what work in the direction to get there. I am getting older. I would like to think about retirement, settling into a place. Whether it's relocating how I want to live. Just how I want to live my life. Yeah. And how I'm going to afford it. So whether that's a rich man is going to come into my life. Whether I'm just going to be this breakout star and get some contracts and some deals, whether I'm going to my laboratory business is going to blow up and I'm going to become somehow somebody gotta fund this life because I want to live a nice one.

[A]

Ashley Blaine Featherson.

[D]

That sounds like manifestation.

[C]

That's my birthday wish.

[E]

I love that.

[A]

What would you be bringing to this table for someone to fund your life?

[D]

No.

[C]

What would you keep the pot

[A]

rom scenario?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It was so good. Thank you for doing this play date.

[C]

Rob, do you want to leave us with the any last words? Give us get. Give us something. What you got?

[B]

Oh, I mean listen, I love coming here and hanging out with you all. You all know way more about big brother than I do. Thank you for humoring me and wanting to hear my casual takes on all of big Brother. But this is so fun getting to hang out with you. I love all of you and this is so fun and would love to do it any other time.

[A]

We love you, Danny.

[D]

Be careful what you wish for.

[A]

Yeah. Can we do a holiday special? We'll see you.

[C]

Let us think about it. He ready to get rid of us right now. You want to ask can I come back over? That's like the little kid who did a sleepover and still want to ask. Can I come back? You haven't even left yet.

[E]

Leave.

[C]

Let us miss you and then ask can you come back? Don't ask, can you come back while you're still here? Chanel, can I come back next month?

[B]

Yeah. Look, I think it's so cool. I'm really, really, I don't, I don't say envious, but I just think it's like that. You all have this bond. You played together. You're all very close. You get like, like, I don't talk to anybody from my season of Survivor. And this is like so fun.

[D]

You know, Tiff did say in chat bcc, shout out. Chad, BCC the other day, they're getting all this free promo for me.

[C]

Shout out.

[D]

Not a day has gone by where she has not spoken to someone from BB23. And I was thinking about that. Like, actually, yeah. I don't think a single day has gone by without me talking to someone

[E]

from her unless I'm filming active without. No.

[D]

Claire, you also talked to someone from our season every single day for years.

[E]

I had a long, I had a long stretch.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes. I hope. Well, Rob, you never alone. Just know you're part of our season.

[B]

The other big brother seasons are like that.

[C]

No, they're not.

[D]

We are 100% an anomaly.

[C]

I, I have, I recall several people from other seasons saying to me, like, we, we know y' all are awful now, but just wait till a couple of years. Like, you'll, you, you won't, you'll, you'll forget all about these people. And I was like, oh, okay. And I hate to think about that day. I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna, like, if I'm looking forward to that. It's been five. And these are my, this is my family. It's like beyond a friendship. Like, this is my family. They try to go somewhere, it's gonna be on the news. What you doing?

[A]

I know. I try, I try my best. I can't. She won't let me go. It's my punishment for what I did to her in the house.

[C]

You stuck with me forever.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Tiffany's on the block. Yeah, Tiffany's on the block.

[D]

Remember that?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

When explaining to my mom what a lavender marriage was the other day, because she was like, what's that? And I was like, it's kind of like the relationship that Tiffany and Big D have. She was like, oh, I understand.

[C]

A full on married come from the same cloth.

[A]

I will say this. I'm very happy that we do have this family. And I agree. Like, I don't know what I would do without these people. I would probably be lost. And I'm Glad that I got a chance to like rock. Like learning from you and your foundation and your network has really helped us to push a lot. And we appreciate you just like taking the time out of your busy schedule to like sit with us and talk with us. Like it means a big deal and just us being your little baby, you know, children on the side. You know.

[C]

We are a non interfering podcast.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And when you're ready.

[C]

Tip.

[A]

Guess what? Rob asked when me and Rob, we're gonna recap Baddies.

[B]

Wait, okay. I need to ask what it was.

[A]

Explain what it is.

[B]

Tell them what it is.

[A]

Tip. Tell them what it is.

[B]

I asked if it was Bad Girls Club and it is.

[C]

It's a spin off. It's a spin off of it. But explaining it to you. I kind of feel like you gotta watch it. It kind of feels. I feel like. I don't think I. I don't think you supposed to know about it. I'm just going to tell.

[B]

Yeah, probably not. Well, listen, when you, when it's on and you're ready, I'll come watch it with you. I'm broaden my horizons.

[C]

There is no way you might not ever look at a certain demographic of people the same ever again.

[A]

Would pay money to watch Rob recap. Like pay even extra money for him to watch Baddies. His tone will be great. He'd be like, someone told me to bring a f. Someone told.

[C]

Let me show you how you recap it. Rob.

[B]

Rob.

[C]

You know, there are these, there's this beautiful group of women. I mean they're all different sizes, colors, looks, shapes, but they all have different color hair and nails and doesn't stay on. And so they get together but. And they're supposed to be. I'm not sure what they're supposed to be doing. They have. But it's immediately as soon as they get together together. It's boxing without a ring. And you know, the, the hair comes off, the nails come off, the eyelashes come off and then I can't tell anybody apart because at first they started off this way. They like transform. It's Transformer women. So this sounds very good.

[D]

That is the most eloquent explanation of baddies I think I've ever heard of.

[C]

Robbed you on Bad Boys.

[D]

How would Rob do on Bad Boys?

[C]

Like on the show.

[A]

Let me tell you a fun story. When I got them big brother 23, Natalie hit me up to come and do Bad Boys. But I could not do it because I was still in my CBS contract.

[C]

I would have broke the shit out that Contract. They didn't care. God, they did not care. They would have not cared.

[A]

I should have broken it.

[C]

I would have been right there.

[A]

That's a lot of money.

[C]

If she wanted you, then, she'll take you now.

[A]

Call her, I said. But she don't want me now. She told me.

[C]

Okay, well, you fucked up. Don't tell nobody else that. Cut at this part.

[A]

Yes, but I would love to.

[C]

It was Rob on Baddies. Here's Rob on Baddies on Bad Boys. Here's Rob on Bad Boys.

[E]

Whoa.

[C]

All right, so we just immediately. Now. Why don't. Why? Why? What's his problem with this guy? I thought they were. Okay, you want to fight me? No. I have a wife and kids. I don't fight. I came. I came to.

[D]

I thought we were here for a zipline, because you know how they do

[C]

the excurs, where I was like, wait a minute, wait. That was my forehead. And it seemed like you wanted to have a conversation. I speak with my words, not with my hands. I see y' all do it differently over here.

[A]

So when they have house meetings, they have house meetings. And I kind of put Hannah to watch a little bit, but they have house meetings.

[C]

That's kind of honest. You always telling somebody's business.

[D]

Talk about.

[C]

Tell your story without including another character.

[A]

But they have house meetings, Rob. And the goal is that they always got to get to the bag. The bag is the money. They have appearances, they go to club, they do performances. They. They do all of it. It's really.

[C]

Now they do. They have. After eight seasons, they finally got the rapping correct.

[A]

So they all rap and they dance. And we're bringing all rappers in the house now.

[C]

They are kinda the bad boys.

[E]

They're the baddies.

[C]

The bad boy, the badger. The baddies, girl.

[A]

The baddies.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

The baddies gone wild, though, right, Rob, you could. You could do a dance segment, because after Yasha's remake, and I know you got it in you, you could do a whole dance segment. So you don't rap, you dance.

[B]

Maybe it was a house of podcasts.

[A]

That would be.

[C]

Let's do it.

[A]

That would be.

[B]

Are we gonna fight? Are we gonna get all the outhouse guys in there?

[A]

We could do all of it. Let me tell you something.

[C]

You talking, but you might be manifesting something. We might need to do a house of podcasters for, like, a weekend live stream. It.

[E]

We get in there, you guys do it at.

[C]

And it'd be like wilding out, where we gotta talk to each other. Like, we gotta. We Gotta cap on each other, like wilding out.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Sorry.

[C]

Go ahead. Claire, I'm getting too excited about this.

[E]

Well, I know they're doing our hopcon or. Or what?

[B]

Havecon. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I think I'm gonna come to that.

[E]

I saw.

[B]

For real. Oh, my God. Is it my birthday?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I love that.

[C]

October 12th or something, right?

[B]

No, it's August. It's August 26th.

[D]

October 12th.

[E]

Christopher Columbus Day at this ring of pod.

[A]

I gotta cut that part. I gotta cut that.

[C]

It's August. It's okay if I'm not gone, I'll be there.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So you're gonna show up to Milwaukee on October 12th, and no one's gonna

[B]

go on for 12.

[A]

So, Rob, next time you see somebody giving you a problem rom, you tell them, run me my fade.

[D]

Run fade, Ron.

[C]

Say that immediately. When you say, run me my fade, they gonna run they fist into your jaw. Go to a fighting stand.

[B]

I don't even know. Run. Run me my fade.

[A]

Run me my fade.

[C]

That mean let's fight. That mean let's fight. That's exactly what it means, Claire.

[D]

I love Claire's fist. She always goes, yes.

[A]

Taught Claire better than that.

[C]

I would just take Claire's hand and pop it like this. And her little hand would be right in her.

[E]

You could. You could.

[A]

I'm just teaching you lingo.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Daddy shot A. That means we're taking shots.

[C]

Anybody. You are, do your big one.

[B]

Do your big one.

[A]

You did your big one with Rob Hest.

[C]

You did your big one with. Yeah. You did your big one when you did the Yash remake.

[A]

Your big one.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Okay. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. Okay. And I do love how this conversation all stemmed from Rob asking Big D what's baddies.

[C]

Me and Rob are going to recap baddies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I bet you all the comments are gonna say you have to recap baddies.

[C]

Now, I want to save you, because let me tell you what happened. If you recap baddies, they gonna find out about it and they gonna be like, bring your little skinny ass up in here. You was talking all that bullshit.

[A]

Oh, my God, I hate that. Guess what, Rob?

[C]

I'm telling you, it's gonna be a problem. You don't need them problems. You got kids there.

[A]

Guess what, Rob? I'll take that fade for you. I'll take that fade.

[C]

That's the only reason I won't reach out. Recap it because they gonna try to call me out.

[B]

I already have pray on my ass.

[A]

Oh, my God. Please don't get me started with him. I'm not gonna start with that dumpster

[C]

in his season, like, 13 years ago. Like, what are we talking about here?

[A]

He's still upset that he is working at the pizza shop still.

[D]

Wait, who? McCray?

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Is he working at the pizza shop still?

[A]

Probably. So. What else is he doing with his.

[D]

Why you got the fade on your ass, Rob?

[C]

What happened? What'd you do to him?

[B]

I didn't.

[A]

I don't know what I did.

[C]

You need to run him his fade.

[A]

Yeah. You want me to run that fave for you? I'll run that fade for you. Rob, don't. Look, don't get it twisted. I'm running.

[B]

I'm good.

[C]

You know what, Rob, though? I ain't lying. I'm for real about this.

[A]

Yeah, me, too.

[C]

Me and Big D be watching Baddies on Sunday. I might have to bring you.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, you can watch it whenever. I'll give my password. I'll send it to you.

[C]

He can't watch it by himself. No, you're not sending him your password.

[A]

We gonna call you. We gonna call you.

[B]

Network. Is it on what channels?

[C]

You don't even know this is a black. You thought we was a black network. We are not a black network. We are a network of the reality TV people. Zeus.

[B]

Is that on YouTube? TV?

[C]

No, it is not. Rob, he should have never brought you in this, because I feel like this is. I don't supposed to tell.

[A]

I'mma show Rob one of the clips of Summer getting punch in the. In the thing.

[C]

The Heavy Crown Network.

[D]

Did I.

[B]

He shows it on his phone.

[E]

I probably did, yeah.

[D]

Don't. Don't do that. Don't do that.

[C]

Hannah said. Hannah is a cn. She said we cannot do this on here.

[B]

No.

[E]

On the phone. No.

[C]

Because it be cussing.

[D]

All right, just send it to him. Send it to him separately. Let's just.

[C]

Let's just privately show him 30 seconds of an episode and he can make a decision to bow out gracefully. He's not gonna stay.

[D]

The cats hate it. The cats were. Velma was in the back.

[B]

The cats didn't like baddies.

[E]

My cats don't mind.

[A]

Thank you, Claire. Claire's about that life. Well, guys.

[C]

Derek, you know what? You really make me want this. My last. You really, really make me want to start my reality TV etiquette school. You would be my first student.

[E]

You can do.

[C]

Because you need.

[D]

You need less

[A]

than. We truly appreciate. We truly appreciate.

[C]

Hey, you keep around. I'm serious.

[A]

We should cut this right now. I'mma tell you that right now. Let's cut it afterwards.

[B]

We could talk fade.

[C]

Hannah, what you think? Reality TV etiquette. School.

[D]

Charm school. Do you remember Char school?

[E]

Yes.

[C]

Charm school for the re. Charm school for reality tv. We get Big D, Michael Rappaport.

[E]

We got.

[C]

I'm talking about. It's a whole list of them. Yeah, McRae.

[E]

We get them all.

[C]

We bring them in.

[B]

Yes, but, Tiffany, are you teaching them to be bad? Reality tv, then.

[C]

They already. They already. It's just like what you do and what you don't do. The do's and the don'ts. It's like the haves and the have nots, but it's the do's and the don'ts. Like social media etiquette. Like, take this tweet that you wrote and rewrite it, be your own. I'm, you know, teaching them pr. You know, like, take what you did, watch this flip back of yourself

[E]

and

[C]

redo it in today after we give you the tools.

[D]

It's the concept of the Heavy Crown Network being a public relations.

[C]

Hey, you never. You never know. It's the Amazon. Amazon started in the garage. That's okay.

[D]

Okay, so I do think that this is a great way to wrap things up. So thank you so much. Rob Scenario from the amazing.

[C]

If y' all want to. If y' all want the Charm School Connecticut reality.

[B]

This could be your. This could be where. Your direction for where your life comes from. The reality TV charm.

[E]

Charm School Love.

[C]

Coached by yours truly, Tiffany. Like the company.

[D]

Okay, commenters, put. Whether you want a charm school and who you would want to be in the first graduating class of said charm school.

[C]

Maybe we need, like, 12. We need 12 guests, or should we start with six? Is that too many?

[D]

No, I think 12 is fine.

[C]

I think 12.

[D]

Is this at university or if it's on Zoom.

[C]

No, we got to get them in person. We got to get them in person for, like, a weekend in a cabin. Yeah, they gotta do stuff, too. Like. Yeah, they gotta, like, celebrity. Remember Apprentice, but, you know.

[B]

Yeah, better.

[C]

Better, because it's gonna be a better host. You know what I'm saying?

[D]

It's gonna be run by me.

[C]

And we can have a board. We can have a board. Hannah. Hannah. Me. Hannah, Claire. We need one guy. Derek. You gonna be in the school, so it can't be you.

[A]

Why do I have eggs in here?

[E]

Eggs in here. Exactly.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Why do I have to be in the store?

[E]

You're good casting. That's why you need.

[C]

You trying to get on another show. I got it. It's not Gonna be baddies. It's gonna be goodies.

[D]

Okay, thank you so much. Rob Scenario, again from the Amazing Rays for dropping by and just descending into our madness.

[E]

What?

[A]

I accidentally, when I was doing Rob's cast assessment for Traitors, I fucked up and said he was from the amaz. He was from the Amazon. Claire.

[B]

It's not Stolen Valor. I don't say that. I'm on race.

[E]

I was like, come on.

[D]

I'm.

[C]

Well, do you know why his name is Rob Scenario?

[E]

Well, I can imagine. I. I put that. I put one and one together in me too. Just know that I did not question that at all.

[D]

You knew. Big D did those intros.

[E]

I could tell there was the width of it. And air.

[D]

Thank you so much, Claire, Tiffany, and Big D for doing this. Happy birthday, Tiffany. Commenters. Also make sure you comment Happy birthday, Tiffany. It's her 33rd.

[A]

Tiffany.

[D]

Tiffany. I hope everything that you just manifested comes true in this year and the next. You deserve it all. You are pick D. Why are D. Big D. Why are you so mad?

[A]

Not the show part, but yeah, everything else I hold. Cup hater.

[C]

Hater. Calm down. You don't get no blessings by hoping somebody else in the dreams don't come true. A charm school is not a bad thing. Me producing my own reality TV show is not a bad thing. Because you don't want to be charmed by me. You already have been, bitch. Look at you.

[D]

Lavender marriage goals.

[C]

Rob, I'm so sorry. That's why you can't watch Baddies. It's worse than this.

[D]

Well, yes. Yes. Commenters. Last thing that I want you to comment. Do we want Rob covering baddies on. Rob has a podcast anyway, guys.

[C]

Or do you want recovering it?

[B]

Yeah, don't put this on me. I have to come.

[D]

Keep that away from.

[E]

I have the Facebook audience. We gotta get that ratchet.

[A]

Ratchet. Yeah, we need to ratchet. Audience.

[C]

She said rap. Oh, Ratchet.

[B]

I've heard it both ways.

[C]

You already bring the ratchet audience. You go both ways. Wait a second.

[E]

Hey, welcome to the club.

[A]

I'm ending this right now.

[B]

The Outhouse.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, we would love to have you. I'm done.

[D]

Okay, guys, make sure you like you comment, you subscribe. Thank you for watching. We'll see you later on this week. We have a lot going on. Outhouse. We have the live feed recaps, we have the royal tea and we have the challenge. I know we mentioned that earlier in the episode.

[E]

Bye.

[C]

And some future shows. Thank you, Rob, for joining us. I truly appreciate it.

[B]

Thanks for having me.

[A]

Claire, Rob, you guys have any that's done.

[C]

You'll be hitting the button so fast we scared to say something.