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How AI, Big Tech, and Governments Are Quietly Watching Everything You Do - Glenn Meder and Eric Meder
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Eric Meter
This is the Rich Dad Radio show. The good news and bad news about money. Here's Robert Kiyosaki.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Hello Robert Kiyosaki Rich dad Radio show. Interesting. We still call ourselves radio when we're now a podcast, but that's how old the show is. It's been 30 years now. And we had terrestrial and satellite radio. It was big time. Now we're podcasting. But it was a great show. Today we have met Glenn and Eric Meter, father and son team. Met them at the New Orleans Investment conference, and it's a great place to learn more about the world of money. Should I say mining, especially gold and silver. As you know, gold and silver is on fire right now. And thank God I started buying silver back in 1965, and I just don't trust the dollar. But anyway, Glenn and Eric have a very special niche. I really don't know that much about it, but it's about Big Brother. And for those who understand Big Brother is how is Big Brother spying on you? So with technology accelerating, AI accelerating that there's more and more access to your private life. And so Glenn and Eric are. Their business, per se, is how to protect you from Big Brother. And I'd say that's quite, quite important because I'm, you know, I'm just me. And I'm surprised at how many people are trying to get in to my world and I don't know how to defend myself because you can't see them. In other words, Big Brother is alive and well, but we can't see them. And how do you protect your privacy? That is the big issue. So welcome, Glenn and Eric.
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Eric Meter
Thank you very much for having us. It's such an honor to be here.
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Glenn Meter
Thank you.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Well, it's my honor because you're a father and son team. You guys educate together. You were with Robert Helms and his goal show, I mean, not gold, how to set goals. And I've never done his course. I should do it. It's a great course, I've heard, but it's neat that father and son study together. And I think that is very commendable. Very, very commendable. Thank you.
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Eric Meter
Thank you. Well, I grew up reading your books. Every Sunday, I'd play cash flow with my friends with Glenn. So, I mean, this is really surreal. And it's. I mean, you're definitely one of my biggest heroes. So it's. It's awesome to be here.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Well, I'm, I'm. It's. It's. The feeling is mutual. I mean, what you guys are doing as father and son is exemplary because, anyway, I'm gonna get into father and son relationships because, as you know, my story is rich dad Poor dad. I had one dad that was rich and one dad that was poor. And never the twain shall meet. Yeah. But anyway, so what about Big Brother? What do you guys know? What is happening on surveillance? And then I guess cbdc, Central bank digital currency would fit in there. And what do we have to be afraid of or be cautious of or how do you guys protect people from Big Brother?
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Eric Meter
Yeah, absolutely. I think there is a coordinated attack on liberty throughout the world. And it's happening through the digital control grid. Every aspect of our lives is being surveilled constantly. We have smart devices around us that are listening through the microphones, through the cameras, and with AI, they're able to take that information and make a profile on you. And with that, they understand you better than you know yourself. And I've got a personal story about that where. So about five, six years ago, I was in culinary school and I was having a pretty depressing day. I went to school, and then right after that I went to work. And the whole day I listened to this song called Rotten Apple by Alison Chains over and over and over. It's a depressing song. And then I came home from school and I started swiping on TikTok. And then I saw a meme that just slapped me across the face. And it said, when you're a line cook and you listen to rotten apple 247 and you want to kill yourself. And I mean, Glenn had told me about privacy and stuff. I understand how social media works with for you feeds, but that was so targeted. I mean, it really, really creeped me out. It was like a Twilight Zone episode. And that's what made me inspired to work with my father and understand this on a deeper level. But if you think about it, my phone's with me all the time. It's listening to what I say. It has Spotify on it, so it knows I'm listening to that song. It knows my location, so it sees that I'm at school, and it can create this profile to manipulate me in ways that have never been possible before with propaganda.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Wait, wait, are you saying that this, whatever it was, was getting kids to kill themselves? Yeah.
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Eric Meter
Yes.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Well, how. Tell me about that. I've never heard of that. What was. What is that?
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Eric Meter
So basically, the way it works, AI works. Glenn always explains it like Google Maps. So with Google Maps, let's say I'm in Lincoln, Nebraska, and I want to go to Chicago. I put in those two locations and it can take me there, and it does that for everyone in the world. So let's say my mental state is good. If they know my profile, they can figure out how to send me down a personalized rabbit hole to depravity. And that's why we're seeing such massive radicalization with the youth, is because in the past, propaganda has always been a thing. You know, the printing press, radio, tv, that allowed for mass propaganda. But now with surveillance technology, with the detailed profiles, there's mass individual propaganda where people are able to go down personalized rabbit holes that take them to a end result, which is depravity and radicalization. And I really think that's why the youth is becoming so radicalized in many
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Robert Kiyosaki
different ways and also commit suicide. Possibly, yes.
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Glenn Meter
There's a lot of lawsuits now that are happening against Chat GPT where Chat GPT has convinced teenagers to kill themselves. And they have. And the. What Eric's talking about here is that was TikTok. And TikTok has a built in AI that, that controls the algorithms. What do people see? And that is not random. That is the AI watches you and it learns you. It learns, it understands your emotional state and it can be programmed to take you to a certain mental or emotional state. And so, so you can imagine President Xi of China saying, okay, we want to destabilize the teens in the west and bring them down this rabbit hole of despair, radicalization and suicide. And I believe that's what's happening in TikTok. But that shows you the power of AI.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So I mean, so as Eric, you were. They targeted you and did you feel yourself actually getting more depressed or upset or what were you going through?
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Eric Meter
I mean, yes, I was in a very bad point in my life already. Um, and I was very depressed, I was very anxious. But everything I saw affirmed it. And so I was able to notice that because it was too blatant. Like, I mean, when you're a line cook. I was a line cook. Listen to rotten apple 247 and you want to kill yourself. I mean, that was too on the nose where it kind of like shook me out of it. And I was able to see like, you know, what the heck is this? This is crazy. But what happens with these memes is it just they, they use humor and relatability. And what they're able to do is they slowly, in a way that you can't see, shape how you view. And again, I think that's why people are so radicalized. I mean, they're really turning. I mean, kids don't watch the news. A lot of kids don't Read. And what they do is they just get fed this information and it slowly just changes how they see the world.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So, want to find out more? It's kind of beyond Big Brother. And they can control who is they? That's my, you know, my biggest question. I, I, a lot of the YouTube I watch and so there's a they. Who's they, you know, and why?
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Glenn Meter
So if you look at what's going on in the world right now, there is a global push to push digital IDs. And digital ID is something that will anchor you, to anchor your identity to everything that you do online. And this is what they're, every country around the world and we can see this, especially in the uk, but it's, it's, every country is doing this online. Well, in the us it's happening in the States with these online child safety acts. As you know, when you, when they push these laws, the name of the act is exactly opposite of what it actually does. So the online child safety acts are not about keeping you safe or keeping your children safe. It's about, it's about digital surveillance online. And they need to have this in place before they do the cbdc. So they're going to do the cbdc, which will be a control mechanism for each of us. But the first step is the digital id. And so there you can see this globally coordinated event effort. And it is a combination, it's a, it's a collusion between Big Brother, the World Economic Forum, Big Tech, Oracle, Google, all of these, Apple, all of them are doing this.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Why?
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Glenn Meter
To control us. This is the control grid. So this is the ultimate control mechanism that every tyrant throughout history would love to have. And it is, they're going to be able to see every single thing we do, every thing that we read, every post that we make, every response, how we respond, all of that stuff. And they're going to be able to control us, show us what they, they want to show us, give us. It's like surgical propaganda is really what it is.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Okay, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
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Eric Meter
It's not just propaganda either. It's, it's about surveillance and it's control. And I, I really consider it digital collectivism, really. I mean, you look at the UK, there's a report that says there's 30 people being arrested for their posts on social media. So for example, if they're against. Every day, Every day. And so if they're against immigration, you post an online, someone's going to come with a black van at night and take you to jail. And like Glenn told you before, I live in Budapest. And what I see there is the remnants of communism. And communism relies on people snitching on each other. I mean, you couldn't trust your family members because they're designed to turn on you. But with this control grid in place, you don't need that human element because your phones are listening. They know what you type, they know what you text people. And once you have this digital id, every action is constantly judged by all of these devices. It's really based off of what China has in place right, right now, which is the Chinese social credit system.
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Glenn Meter
Yeah.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So it's a new world. Yeah. So who is they? Who is Big Brother?
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Glenn Meter
It's, it's the collusion between the, the, the, the elites. The, the, the behind the scenes elites like Tony Blair. Tony Blair has been behind this for a long time. Yeah, John Kerry. There's, there's a lot of people, the World Economic Forum, the governments around the world. I think one of the things that is happening, that is taking the time, the, the reason they're not just rolling it out all at once is because just as the Federal Reserve is a cartel of banks, what they're doing now is they're going country by country to really get a cartel of the bad powerful people and get that system in place. And they're, they're the ones that are working on this behind the scenes.
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Robert Kiyosaki
You know, I, I don't, I still know who they is or why they want, they want to do it, but I just saw that Newsom, California. They're going to tax control. They're going to put a control tax on everything you own. So it goes not only surveillance, but to figure out what you own, they're going to need that surveillance. Then they can tax it. They can tax it. And so, so I, I, you see the pieces of it, but I don't know who they is yet in. And I, I was talking to a friend. He's a very, very good friend. For years he didn't make any sense. Today, I mean, he went so radical liberal. He's an ex Marine pilot. He went so radically liberal. I mean, it didn't, you know, one plus one didn't fit who he's become in the last five or six years. But I mean, he was already kind of leaning liberal, but now he's a whack job. It makes no sense. He can't put one plus one together. And so I'm wondering if that's what you're talking about. They target or they can they again, they search for the weak or the inclined to be programmed, should we say, and we all are, to get us on something that they can get to our heart and soul in. Is that what kind of Big Brother is? They figure out your core strengths and weaknesses and pet peeves and things that'll piss you off or upset you. And they go after that and they get into your heart and soul.
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Eric Meter
Absolutely. Yeah. I. I actually have made like an entire passion project around trying to teach the youth about how to avoid this manipulation. And it's just. You're exactly right. I mean, you look at. There's articles talking about how Facebook has sold advertisers lists of teens that are deemed insecure. Insecure. And so first of all, why is Facebook, you know, targeting kids that are insecure or profiling them as insecure? And then why would they want to sell that data? It's because, like you said, they're vulnerable. And vulnerable people can be malleable to propaganda and agendas.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Okay, so we'll tell you. Glenn and Eric, we've now identified Big Brother as they. Whoever they are and who they target. But when we come back, you guys have programs to almost hate. Is it self defense? Or to not be programmable? Or to.
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Eric Meter
Yes.
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Robert Kiyosaki
How to know when you're being programmed. So we come back with the Rich dad show. We'll be talking to Glenn and Eric Meter about the Big Brother attack upon our privacy, our lives, everything. We'll be right back.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Welcome back. Robert Kiyosaki for Chef Radio Show. Our guest today, Glenn and Eric Meter. We're talking about Big Brother, the advancement of, let's say AI for a general term, and surveillance. But how it can really radicalize or even program some people to take suicide or actually take somebody else's life possibly. So you get programmed to be a robot. And I met Glenn and Eric at the New Orleans Investment Conference and that's a great program for those who are in my business, which is mining, not bitcoin mining, but I own gold mines. I used to own the silver mine and lost it. I didn't lose it, I sold that one. But I'm going to be at the VRIC, the Vancouver Resource Investment Conference on January 25th and 26th. So if you want to come and find out more about this world of silver and gold, which is my world because it's hard to program silver and gold. Maybe it is. But anyway, I'll be speaking at the Vancouver resource investment conference January 25th and 26th. So we're talking about Big Brother and surveillance. You guys have a company solutions for it. What can a person do to protect themselves from Big Brother?
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Glenn Meter
So the first thing is awareness. You have to become aware of what the issue is. You have to be aware of the threats that face you Online. And so it's. We talk about Big Brother, but it's big tech and then there's hackers and scammers and they all want the same thing. They all want your data, and then they take your data and they weaponize your data against you. So you have to really figure out how to not give them your data. And really there's things that you can learn, there's skills that you can do, but there's mindset things, there's tools that you can use, all of that stuff. And I'll give you an example here. This might be a little bit more advanced, but I think it's very important that you change the computer that you use, because computers. So Windows now has Copilot on it. Copilot is built in AI on your computer. It takes a screenshot every second. And AI, the AI that lives on your computer analyzes that. And it's doing that for a purpose, and it's doing that to learn about you. And this is part of this whole thing that they're doing. Apple does this, Windows does this, and so Linux. I mean, I think it's very important that this is not maybe the first step, but eventually people should move over to Linux. And there's some very good. Linux is a different operating system, but it's really good nowadays. It's very good. And there's specific versions of Linux that we recommend, but that is a way to stop the surveillance on you that's happening every second.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So one last. Well, some as far beyond my pay grade in Linux and all that stuff, you know, Okay, I barely turn on my cell phone, but that's the one thing I noticed when I go into a retail outlet, they say, may I have your phone number? Yeah. Is that part of it too?
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Glenn Meter
Yeah, absolutely. Well, I never give them my phone number. I always do, like my area code and then 867-5309 or. Or just 555-5555 or something like that. But yeah, you're right. You don't want to give them your phone number.
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Eric Meter
Yeah, what they're trying to buy is your purchasing patterns. I mean, that's data that they want to know. And I think it was Kroger.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Right?
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Eric Meter
I mean, Kroger made a ridiculous amount of money on the data. I mean, it's not. I think it was like over 10% of like all their profit. I don't know exactly on the number.
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Glenn Meter
$700 million is what Kroger makes on selling your data.
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Eric Meter
Wow. Yeah.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So I, I have a bad habit as I shop online. Does that open me up again?
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Eric Meter
Yeah. I mean, so there's two threads to that. I mean, one like what we just said with Kroger is they want to collect your data. But then the other side is hackers and scammers and thieves. And so what people make the mistake of is they reuse their password, they use their real credit or debit card, they use their email address for everything. And then basically if one of those get compromised, all of them are compromised. So what we do personally is we have a service that creates a fake email address for everyone that we use and it actually forwards it to our email address. We use burner debit cards for every transaction. It's actually super easy once you use the software. And basically we have no threat vector because we've obfuscated like all of the data. If I purchase something, it just says, you know, Will Smith and a different card number than mine and a different email address. So I don't have any threat really.
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Glenn Meter
But, but if, if we can keep it simple. Let's just keep it simple right now. So the first thing you should do is maybe use the Brave browser instead of Chrome or instead of Safari, something like that. Don't use google.com use the brave search engine. Those are two things that I think are very good de Google yourself. Just learn to how to get away from Google. I think that would be a very big step too.
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Eric Meter
Yeah. And one of the most simple things you can do is just have a webcam cover. And there's also another thing called a microphone blocker where it blocks the microphone from spying on you. But low tech and hardware solutions like, you know, a webcam cover that stops the camera from working. That's fantastic because you know, you can't hack a webcam cover off.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So what's, what service do you guys provide? Because here I am going, okay, so if that stops me from being an online shopper and then I go, so I go to the retail outlet, they get my credit card there anyway. Do what? I mean, we're wide open.
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Eric Meter
Yeah.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And so to say don't use your credit card, that's kind of ridiculous. Or don't give you, you know, there's only so much you can do on that side. So what service do you guys provide that on? How they get in touch with you, should I say?
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Eric Meter
So we teach people how to do it in bite sized steps. I mean the biggest problem, problem that people make is they try to jump into the deep end. They want to get a Linux computer, a phone, they Want to do it all at once and it's, it's not right. I mean you, you want to take baby steps, you want to take bite sized pieces and then you can go as far as you want. I don't believe in like elitism with privacy. There's a lot of people that say, oh, you have to do everything or it's worthless. The key is you figure out your threat model, whatever you want to do and, and then take the steps needed. And so that's what we help with. We. Oh, go ahead.
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Glenn Meter
We have a website.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Glenn and Eric Meter, how do they get in touch with you guys? How do they Access privacy?
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Glenn Meter
Privacy academy.com.
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Robert Kiyosaki
yeah, privacy academy.com.
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Eric Meter
yes.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And what do you get for that?
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Glenn Meter
We have a series, it's all about education. So we have series of courses, how to do this. Just lessons, we have recorded lessons, we have live lessons and we can work with you one on one. But we can help you learn how to protect yourself from online hackers, thieves and scammers, Big Tech and Big Brother. All three of them are very important to protect yourself against. And that's what we show you how to do.
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Robert Kiyosaki
How much does that cost?
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Glenn Meter
The core program? We've got different programs, but $49 a month is really the core program.
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Robert Kiyosaki
49amonth. And does it protect you or what does it do?
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Glenn Meter
It gives you access to the training that gives. That allows you to protect yourself.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Yeah, the training. But it doesn't protect you without the training.
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Glenn Meter
Well, the first thing you need to know is you need to know how to think about this and you need to. There are just certain things that you need to do and ways to think and understand how to stop the data flow.
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Eric Meter
Yeah.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So that's really understand the problem and the solution.
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Eric Meter
We teach you how to use the software. Like if you do want to use a Linux computer, we'll show you how to load it onto your own device, transition over to it. So the problem and then also the solution aspect of it.
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Robert Kiyosaki
That was Hackers Academy again. Well, Privacy academy.
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Glenn Meter
Privacy privacy academy.com.
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Eric Meter
yeah, don't go to Hackers Academy.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Everybody, everybody signed up for that. Well, wouldn't they anyway? You know, it's such a brave new world we live in and Big Brother is watching. What you're saying is disturbing, especially since you know where you're vulnerable everywhere.
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Eric Meter
Yes.
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Robert Kiyosaki
You know, like I have this one friend who started thinking to protect the kids iPhones from porno, whatever they put on those things. But you know, before you could, you could lock your door. Now you can't lock your door. Yeah, because it just come right through. So any final words there? Anything you want else you would like to advise people what they should know, what you see coming and what the threats are?
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Eric Meter
Yeah, absolutely. I think the threat is that everything is becoming centralized. And so I define a smart device as the ability to surveil you and then the ability to control you. And a good way to look at that is like if you look at a car from the 80s, it's very simple. You know, you turn the ignition, the car turns on, you turn the wheel, the wheels turn. But now it's a computer on wheels. So what does that mean? It can be controlled like a computer can. And so, you know, they can limit how far you drive, they can limit how fast you drive, they can limit everything because it is a smart device. And what's happening is all of these data points are centralizing, and that means all the centralized power is going to a small group of people. So right now we're seeing an extreme centralization of power. And basically it's all going to say that privacy is really being ignored right now. But I think it is the biggest issue to liberty. I think it's the backbone to what's creating and could create the most powerful collectivist society ever. And if you care about your personal liberty, I really educate, I really urge you to learn about the dangers and, you know, opt out of that awful future.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And. One second, that's called Privacy Academy.
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Eric Meter
Yes, yes.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Final words are. Glenn, any words of warning or.
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Glenn Meter
Yeah, yeah, I would say that what we talk about, it is kind of a dark topic. But I. We are optimistic. I think, I think we will be able to preserve liberty. We as a society will be able to preserve liberty if we become aware of this issue and if we take the steps to stop really this digital id, all of that stuff. So I think we have to get our own house in order, but then we have to work on the state level to stop the digital id.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And so let me ask you this question then. Let's say the Fed comes up with cbdc, Central bank, digital currency. What can a citizen do?
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Glenn Meter
Yeah, so I think having. Working on a local level, I don't think there's really much we can do on the federal level, unfortunately, I think it's all the local level, the state level. The Constitution supports local and decentralized power structures. So I encourage people to focus on the, on the state level and we can have local economies that are maybe parallel to the, to the other, to the, to what they want to put in place. But, you know, gold, maybe we do gold backs and silver. Yeah. And we. I think we just have to have. We. We have to fight back. We have to ensure that the states protect our. Our rights from the encroachment of the world Economic Forum in the federal government.
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Robert Kiyosaki
That's a big, big tester. I think I'd rather call privacyacademy.com right. And get. I think the step is you have to get more educated to it or more aware of it first.
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Eric Meter
Yes.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Which is what you're doing.
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Eric Meter
Absolutely.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Anyway, big brother's here. Big brother's talking to us. And I. The funny thing is they have whole banks of my AI now. And I saw an AI of me pop up and my friend called me and says, man, I never saw you sound so intelligent. It was an AI of me. It basically synthesized, you know, 10 things I said down to one important point. Yeah. So I thought I was laughing my butt off, but it's not funny. Another level but AI is making more intelligent even though it's not me. So Glenn and Eric Meter, Against Privacy Academy, please go and check them out. I think the first step is, as you guys say, is understand the problem to get educated. Yeah. Okay. So thanks for your dedication, young men, both men, father and son. And we'll see you around the block. So thank you very much.
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Eric Meter
Thank you very much. Such an honor.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And we come back. We'll be having a final word from Rich dad. We'll be right back.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Download the Amazon Music app today. Welcome back once again. Thank you to Eric and Glenn Meter of Privacy Academy. I think the recommendation is solid. Understand the problem first before you do anything. So again, I met them at the New Orleans Investment Conference in New Orleans. And I'll be heading to the vric. It won't be an AI of me. I'll really impersonally be at the VRIC on January 25th and then 26th. And also I'll be in Charlotte, North Carolina February 3rd for the Aspire Tour. The Aspire Tour in Charlotte, North Carolina, February 3rd. It won't be the AI of me. You'd be the real me. So it is a brave new world and Big Brother is watching. And I get the funny feeling every time I use my credit card or I mess with my phone number. I just don't know what they're going to do. But we all know it's coming. And there's always a good and a bad to everything. But unfortunately, like anything is the bad, the bad is more profitable than the good a lot of the times. So it's like, you know, when the, when the worldwide WWW came up, the first thing that popped up on it was porno. And it's because it sells. So with this World Wide web and big Brothers watching and all that, it'll do a lot of good. But first comes to bad, so please be aware, be careful. I make no recommendations, but check out the Privacy Academy. And I wholeheartedly endorse the first suggestion. Get educated about what the problem is because Big Brother is watching. Thank you for watching Rich Dad Radio show.
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