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How Parents Can Protect Kids From Online Predators
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Jeff Godfris
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Robert Kiyosaki
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Robert Kiyosaki
Hello, Robert Kiyosaki, the Rich Dad Radio Show. The good news and bad news about money. And I'm broadcasting from Phoenix, Arizona, Scottsdale, Arizona, where it's either heaven or hell. And right now, it's heaven. So all you guys that are freezing and wherever you freeze, come to Phoenix. You know, it's beautiful, sunny, beautiful, warm. But I just completed one show with Glenn and Eric Meter and their gig is Privacy Academy. It's how Big Brother is watching you. This is technology coming into our lives. So Big Brother is watching you and they want to get all the data they can from you. So they were warning against cbdc, Central bank, digital currencies, and what we can do to defend ourselves. So Privacy Academy, you know, they suggest understanding the problem first, the education program to understand how big Big Brother is and who is Big Brother and why do they. What are they doing with the information? So I know that when I go, every time I go to a retail outlet, they want to know my phone number. And I don't give it out. It doesn't make any difference. I get it anyway. So obvious your credit card number. So Big Brother is watching again. That was Glenn and Eric made her a Privacy Academy. Today is an old friend of ours, Jeff Godfirst, and he is cyberdive co founder. The problem is similar but not the same. And I like his name. God first. But I am for full disclosure. I'm an investor in Cyber Dive. I like what they're doing. And what they're doing is, Jeff, if I can get it wrong, jump on me. But basically, Big Brother also wants your kid's number. And what they do is they come in through the kid's cell phone. So I invested in Cyber Dive for full disclosure, because what Jeff has done, he's invented their own cell phone that Big Brother cannot get into. So today we're going to be. I want to have Jeff talking about that. How big and pervasive is this problem of privacy? You know, Glenn and Eric, they got into this business because they were programming Big Brother, programming their son to commit suicide. And he go, wow. So they find, you know, they go through the data, they find, let's say, a child who may not be happy, maybe misfunctioning all this. You can program a child via the phone. So, Jeff, again, welcome to the Rich dad radio show again. And how did I do explaining what you guys do you have your own cell phone for kids? And how does that work?
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah, thank you for having us. Again, what we have is a cell phone built specifically for kids, where every action that that takes place on that phone, regardless on what social media site they're on, regardless if it's encrypted, if it's on Snapchat, all that information is sent to a parent dashboard, all in real time. So now we have given the power back to the parent that the parent finally gets to see what nefarious things, what programming, what lobotomization is happening to their child. And before, like you had indicated, there had been a sort of a wall big. Those major big companies did not want parents to know that. And like your previous show, excuse me, we started the company because of a young girl who had been assaulted and wanted to commit suicide after an event.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And.
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Jeff Godfris
And we know that we've created something that's very unique, very different, and is a way to finally turn a wall sideways and turn that into a bridge for parents to get their power back finally.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So how old basic are the kids or the children that use your cyberdive phone?
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Jeff Godfris
It's a great question. We get kids ranging from 4 years old up above 18. And what I mean by that, a lot of parents are getting their child a phone for the first time. We also have parents who will give a phone to a child who might have some sort of special needs, who is over 18 and needs further monitoring and guidance. The most important thing that we understood was the genie is out of the bottle. Phones are not going away. And we wanted to Be able to provide phones to a lot of parents who've grown up on social media and really believe in involvement over limitation, but are also scared of those things that are out there that are being programmed into their kids.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Yeah. So my question, you know, if I was a kid, I don't know if my. I want my parents to have a cyberdyke phone. You know what I mean? I want to be private. I mean, do you have that problem at all?
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Jeff Godfris
Not really. Because most young kids, when they're getting a phone for the first time, they just want to go into the online world. They want to understand what their parents are doing all day on their phones. They know they can learn to shop, they can listen to music, they could play games all they want, especially young kids, they want to go on. It's sort of like driving without a seatbelt. You know, there was a time when we got to drive without seat belts, and when they told us we had to, we said no. But now for young people, they won't even get in a car without putting on the seatbelt. You know, it's been programmed into them. So for us, kids just want to go into that online world because it's so magical. There's so many incredible things that can happen online and in social media. But again, we have that other end where there are those nefarious things.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Right. So, you know, like, if it bleeds, it leads, you know, in news. So you can cyber diet doing wonderful work. But everybody wants to know, what are some of the horrible stories that have happened to kids or young people because they don't have a cyber dive? What are these? You know, when I was a kid, the parents could lock the door. You know, you come home, stay in the house, lock the door. Now you can't lock the door because the doors are wide open. Yeah, so what. What are some of the stories that have happened to kids that inspired cyberdive to step up the. Step up the. You know, become a business, basically?
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah. I think, again, there is a lot of nefarious things that happen online, anywhere from sex trafficking to sextortion, which is sort of like extortion with photos with someone who's nude. Drugs, grooming, animal violence, violence on children that is so prevalent online. I mean, there is a group of predators out there that feeds upon seeing young kids in very highly sexual experiences. And you can now find that online. Before you couldn't find that, you would have to go into the underground, but online, especially on the dark web, you can find it. So for us, we see a Lot of very horrific things, very terrible things that are happening online that the general public does not want to know about. There's a blind spot, and they want to keep that blind spot. But for us, every story has a hero and a villain, and we like to try to be the hero because some of these things, Robert, are so disgusting and vile that are happening. But we really, again, wanted to be able to provide parents with a way so that they get to see what's happening so these things can't happen to their kids because no one else is out there stopping it. And if they expect a social media company to stop it, it's going to be Christmas Eve for a very long time. They're not going to stop it.
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Robert Kiyosaki
No. I remember when you was talking to you guys, it's like how they, you know, basically, I don't. Yeah, there's just predators. There's pred. Yeah, Just predators. Yeah. Young boys and girls. Yeah. Actually, miss. Sexually. You know, blackmailing them, basically.
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Jeff Godfris
Of course. I'm sorry, I was gonna say, I think about that when I'm in a restaurant. I will look around a restaurant and I'll see people in there and I'll always think there is someone in here who's a predator. You know, they just look like a normal person, but on their phone they have images of this or that or something that is nefarious. And it's just prevalent in our world now. Like you said, you can't lock people up behind the door anymore. And with kids, the predator is already in the house. And I think that's sort of what has inspired us to become the best company that we can and provide power back to the parent.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Okay, so big question is, how much does a cyber dive phone cost?
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Jeff Godfris
We are, you know, we have three plans that we offer. And because we really didn't want to be like a company that was out of anybody's zip code. So we start at $900, if that's. If you want to own it outright. But then we have payment plans 24 months and 36 months so that anyone could afford it. Because we didn't want to be a gated community product. We want to help. I mean, that is part of our mission to make human life better.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So if I paid cash, it's 900 or I can get it on time. Payment. Yes. And how does a parent access what's in that phone? Or do you have a copy of one there?
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Jeff Godfris
Or. I don't have right one in front of me, but they have a parent dashboard that's an app that they put on. On their phone or on their tablet, and all they do is push on that, and then it shows all of that information. It'll say, here's what your child did on TikTok. Here's what your child did on Snapchat. Here's what your child did on WhatsApp. And remember, WhatsApp is encrypted. You can't even see that. I mean, that's the point of that. But for us, we're able to give that to the parent and deliver it in an app that is in real time and is perfectly, perfectly suited for them to understand what is happening with their child. We wanted to make it as seamless and easy for that parent to understand that. So that is how they see that the child has the phone and then they have the app on their phone or tablet.
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Robert Kiyosaki
It's kind of like, I just got this thing called ring. Yeah, yeah, I. I can. I can be in South Africa and see somebody at my front door, you know?
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Jeff Godfris
Right, right.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So that's, that's kind of what the technology is doing.
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Jeff Godfris
It's a, It's a great analogy. That is sort of exactly how it is. But think about thousands of people knocking on your door all day. And you would be seeing thousands of people doing that.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when we come back, we'll be talking more. Jeff. God first. But it's a brave new world. That's what we're talking about with Eric and Glenn Matter Privacy Academy. Big Brother is watching. And Big Brother's a pervert.
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah.
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Robert Kiyosaki
What a world. What a world. What a world. Because I remember I grew up in the Dark Ages, you know, I remember I. I had to use. We didn't have cell phones. We had to use. I had to carry quarters in my pocket to use a phone, you know, pay phone. Right. But we knew who the predators in town were. You know, I won't mention names, but we knew. Right. And tried to talk to little boys and little girls, but now they come in over the phone. And what does a parent do? Big Brother is watching. Like we said, Big Brother is a weirdo. So we come back, we talk about Jeff Gottfirst of cyberdive, what you can do to protect your children. Because if you don't protect your children with a cyberdive phone, then Big Brother is happy about that. So we're right back with Jeff. God first Foreign.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Welcome back. Robert Kiyosak Rich Dad Radio Show. Today our guest is Jeff Godfris. He's the one of the co founders of Cyberdive. And full disclosure, I'm an investor in Cyberdive because I like what they're doing and we're talking about, you know, we had Eric and Glenn Medder, a privacy academy for this is how Big Brother is watching and how they want to steal all your information to use it against you. So when you go to a retail outlet, can you give your phone number? I wouldn't give it out, but they'll get it anyway. Or they'll get your credit card number. They'll get it. So I met Jeff years ago and what they did was they created a phone to protect your Kids. So it's a special phone, it's $900 so that parents can then when they give their young child of iPhone, it's their phone, a Cyberdyne phone, and the parents can find out what's on the phone. And it's really a sad world. And you think about all the predators out there. And that's why I invested in it. You know, when, before, when I was a kid, mommy and daddy could lock the door. Today you can't, you know. And where do you. How do you protect your kids is the question. So as we're talking on the break about cyber dive and how if it bleeds, it leads. And there's a lot of goofy stuff going on out there. So what else does cyber dive do for the parent and to protect the kid?
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Jeff Godfris
I think most. Yeah, I think most importantly, there is a use a euphemism that people use called peace of mind. And we hear that a lot like we hear it. You get peace of mind with this. I think when we went about building our phones, we really wanted to lean into that again. We really wanted to be able to show parents what their children were being exposed to, because again, they're being programmed not only just by what's happening on social media, but also by like AI chatbots where kids are talking to bots about their problems and issues. And there have been recent cases where those bots have encouraged kids to commit suicide. And those cases are now going through the courts and so forth. But that is the strange world we live in now, that a child can be talking to a large language model bot and that bot can lead them to a path to take their life and they do it. And when I speak about peace of mind, that is what we wanted to be able to provide because we understood that that Big Brother is almost hijacking kids, lobotomizing them, making them to think certain ways that those companies want them to think and sort of taken away their free thought about issues. And we think we've accomplished that with a really great phone that does that.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Thank you. So I was talking to Eric and Glenn Medder of Privacy Academy, how they protect adults. What Jeff with Cyberdive does is protect actually the parents and the kids. And the question is, who is they? Who wants to do that? I mean, what kind of deviate would want to do that? I mean, could it be anybody or is it organized or who's they?
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah, I think there are multiple rings when we talk about that. I think there's individuals who are doing it. There are organized Crime groups who go after kids. And I think we're in a space again where social media companies are trying in an essence to protect people and protect kids. But there are so many nefarious people and predators out there and they look normal. You know, they're just normal looking people. When you see the pictures after they've been arrested, they look like just like normal human beings. You know, we often envision nefarious people looking very nefarious looking. And they're not, they're not. They just have very bad intentions. And those people can get onto your kid's phone and I can promise you they're not bringing milk and cookies to your house. That's not what they're doing. They want other things.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Do you have an example of one? Have you guys caught anybody?
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah, we had a recent case just recently that happened on a platform called roblox where a 14 year old girl in Virginia was on that platform and a person pretending to be a young boy started to talk to them and then got them to move to a site to video chat and they started chatting. He was not a 14 year old boy, he was a man. And during that conversation he then took down his pants and started to pleasure himself with her on the zoom chat. Our phone spotted that. That phone shut down. That parent then reached out to the authorities in Virginia, in South Carolina, law enforcement. And we were able to send all of those sessions of everything that happened to that law enforcement agency and they were able to move forward with a prosecution of that. And I think that is something we're very proud of, that we're able to see those things and to help. And that is a real time event that happened. I mean that's. It happened and it happened to a young girl and we were able to protect her and that's what we're happy that we were able to accomplish.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So there'd also work in favor because what cyber dive was actually got this guy's identity and all that.
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah, we were able, I mean we were able to record everything. So we were able to send all of that to law enforcement. So they were able to see his face, they were able to see the whole action of him doing that and the whole beginning of him trying to groom her. You know, he started to be like friendly with her about a game and then it moved into let's do this sexually. And so you were able to see that whole journey and we were able to provide that to law enforcement. I mean, and that's.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Yeah.
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Jeff Godfris
What more can you say? That's the win right there.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So when it goes to court, what can he say, right?
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah, there's nothing. I mean he's going to be, he just going to put his head down like he's going to be just like.
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Robert Kiyosaki
The old smile, you're on Candid Camera.
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Jeff Godfris
Exactly. Smile, you're on candid camera. Exactly. 100%. But that's a real world event that happened and that. And we're really proud of that. And we have that happen all the time where parents tell us, here's what I caught, here's what I saw, here's what I'm able to help my kid with. And that's really gratifying for us.
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Robert Kiyosaki
When I, in the 1960s, that's how old I am, I was in school in New York and there was this very famous, I'll mention his name, dj, you know, radio guy.
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Jeff Godfris
Okay.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And he was saying to all the kids, okay, now kids, go to your mother's wallet or your father's wallet, get some money out and send it to me. Raking it in, you know.
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Jeff Godfris
Right.
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Robert Kiyosaki
All these kids are sending money. I got. God almighty. So they busted him, but oh my.
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Jeff Godfris
Goodness, oh my goodness.
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Robert Kiyosaki
How do you put. Because he was famous too. I mean, but they busted him. And anyway, it's such a brave new world we live in.
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Jeff Godfris
Right?
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Robert Kiyosaki
Right. So what other what else do you see coming down the road for cyber again? Full disclosure. I invest in your company because I like your product. I like what you do. You guys are ahead of the game, but you have to stay ahead of them also too, don't you? I mean technology aids them as well as you guys.
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah, of course. For us we always have to telegraph the future. If we're just standing still, that's not good. So for us, besides our phones, we are going to be having coming out TVs as. And we did that. We wanted to create a smart TV where parents can then see what their kids are doing when their children are playing video games. Because if they're playing games like Fortnite or Minecraft, any or Roblox, they're chatting with people, there are people talking to them. And when a child is doing that on a video game, there's no monitoring of that. So we're really proud that we're in development of that, that television because I think that's completes the whole picture for the parent. The parent will have the phone and then they have the TV where they have like their PlayStation or their Xbox hooked up to. And for us, we knew customers wanted that and that was A frontier where we knew that kids were also being attacked and a lot of nefarious predators on that as well. And we're excited about that. It's a big step to develop.
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Robert Kiyosaki
That's a big step. Yeah, it's huge.
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah.
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Robert Kiyosaki
But let me ask another question because I don't know much about it.
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah.
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Robert Kiyosaki
What is the Dark Web?
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Jeff Godfris
A dark place. It's an area where you have to dive deep in order. Like us normal people, when we type something into Google or a search engine, you know, we're getting the top layer of, of what's out there. We, I mean if we're looking up a car, you know, a jacket, whatever it is, you can go further down, deeper into that. And when you get down to sort of a lower level, that is where a lot of nefarious things are and that is trafficking, drugs, a lot of other illicit things. And I have to tell you and all the viewers, it's out there. It is real. These things that we sometimes might see in movies that we think are just in a movie, it's real. And it's even worse in the real world. I mean, the stories we hear about what people do to kids and to animals and to things of that nature, it's, it is a, like you said, it is a new world and it is time that we understand what is happening out there.
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Robert Kiyosaki
It's interesting in my, my physician, my doctor, she married, just got married and had a child, but her husband got his PhD in the dark Web. I'm going to interview him next to figure out what is this Dark Web. And you may remember one of the things that people were against Bitcoin was about was Bitcoin was what funded the Dark Web. That's what they claimed. And so there's so much we do not see that we'll never see because it's an invisible world of the Dark web, whatever that is.
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah, yeah. And I think that's, I think that's a good point. That there's, we go about our day to day lives just looking at what's in front of us, you know, and sort of going through the cadence of what we're doing. But there is a whole arena, just a dark web, a online world that we don't know about and parents don't know about. And most normal people just going through their day to day, they're not aware of it. But the sad thing is it's there and at a granular level, people are being hurt. And that is sort of the reason we started our company, because yes, we know we can help, and that makes us feel good. That's why we put our feet on the ground every morning. To be a company that does things right and does try to make human life better.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Well, you fight back against the dark web or. Yeah, you put light into the dark web.
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah, we try to bring some light. I like that. Right. And like you said, if it leads, it bleeds. Right.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Like, what we're talking about during the break is that I'm so old, I, I, I had to carry quarters in my pocket, you know, So I, I fly from Hawaii to New York to go to do, to do a CNBC or something. I had to carry piles of quarters in my wallet, my pack. I set up all these alarm bells and all this. So I fly from Hawaii to California and I get on the phone and I dial New York and get a busy signal. And then, you know, now with the iPhone, it's so much faster and quicker, but so that the dark side get faster and quicker also. And I must confess, we're laughing about this. 25 cents was a lot of money back then, you know.
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Jeff Godfris
Yeah.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And so I used to travel all over the world, and one day I put, I think it was 100 yen piece or something. Instead of, instead of, instead of 25 cents, it was like 3 cents or something like this in yen. And it worked perfectly in the cell and iPhone, in the payphone. So could you imagine? And back then, they used to break into the pay phones and steal the money. So somebody breaks into this pay phone, they get Japanese yen. There's always a way to get around the whole thing. So that's absolutely.
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Jeff Godfris
You know, I love these stories because you. All these interesting stories that you've experienced, I love hearing them.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Yeah. I mean, it's real life, you know, I mean, everybody's. I have a T shirt across the front says Saint on it. I don't dare wear it. But anyway. But anyway, we all have a dark side too, and so does the world. So anyway, Jeff, God, first, congratulations on your success. Looking forward to the tv. I'm glad I invested in cyberdive for full disclosure. And again, we'll make no Rich dad makes no recommendations, just full disclosure. So keep up the good work, Jeff.
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Jeff Godfris
Thank you. Really appreciate it. Loved being on with you. Thank you for everything.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Thank you. And we're right back with a final word from rich dad.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Welcome back Robert hugheside Richard Radio Show. I want to thank Jeff Godfrey of Cyberdive. Again, for full disclosure, I do invest in the company. I like what they're doing. They're fighting the dark side. And final word about being a senior citizen. Now that says you get older, it's more important you do, you know, work that inspires you. So I've loved teaching as my casual board game there and I teach all over the world because it keeps my spirit happy. Education is what keeps us moving forward ahead of the dark side. So thank you again, Jeff Godfirst and thank you all for watching the Rich Dad Radio show. Thank you.
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