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How World War Risk Could Impact Gold, Silver, Oil, and the Dollar
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Robert Kiyosaki
How close to World War are we? We have.
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Gerald Celente
It's already begun.
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Robert Kiyosaki
We're there right now, right?
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Gerald Celente
Yep, it's begun.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Hello, Robert Kiyosaki, Rich Daddy Radio Show. The good news and bad news about money. And we have a lot going on that's good and probably more bad. We're in a very critical time in the world history right now. Critical, critical time. So with that, I'm going to bring up a good friend, longtime friend, Gerald Salante. And Gerald and I are the same age and he is from the Bronx. And I went to school not too far from the Bronx. So I kind of understand guys like Gerald. I mean, the Bronx guys drive a lot of guys crazy, and Gerald is no exception. You know, you don't argue with them. I mean, you're from the Bronx. You're from the Bronx. I think I remember Gerald is this is that I was, I played basketball, you know, and went to school in great deck, not too far away. And I had a couple of friends who were from the Bronx and we played basketball. If you can't hit from 30ft out, don't play. And these guys were not nice about it, man. You can't hit from 30 get off the field. You know, they were not sportsmen about it. So I, I understand Gerald's personality type. Big time. They tell it like they see it. They do not hold back. So, Joan, I just saw you on Daniela Gamboni show. I mean, I love her dearly and she's, she's one of the very pure. She knows what she's talking about, no BS person. So you know, she's. Daniella is fantastic. So you are just ripping and roaring. So I'll let you just rip and roar. But before you go on, tell us what the Trans Journal is and why people should subscribe to it.
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Gerald Celente
Journalism is dead and thank you so much for having me on and I greatly admire all you do. And your forecasts are way beyond anybody else's out there. We look at the world so example again, the big companies own everything. Oh you just saw it just happened. Ellison buying up CBS and now Hex bragging that he hopes he gets cnn. And before this is a T shirt I did when Bill Clinton ran for office back in I'm a political atheist just to make it clear to me it's a crime syndicate. If they were Italian, you call them a mafia. There's a T shirt I did when Bill Clinton ran for office back in 1992. Beware of slick Willie. This is the Slick Willie that wasn't worth a dime. That's worth not. What about $130 million for the deals that he did, the payoffs. Anyway, this is a slime ball that deregulated the Federal communications Act in 1996. There were thousands of independent radio stations, TV stations, newspapers, magazines. Now six companies control all of the media. I call them prestitutes, media whores that get paid to put out by their corporate pimps and government or masters. Oh no, not my oh how about the facts again? Whether you like it, don't like it, agree or disagree. How about the woman they just brought on cnbc, Barry Weiss. I'm a quote pro Zionist. I don't care what you're pro anything. How about just give me the facts. I don't care what you believe in. Well, I'm a liberal, I'm a Democrat, I'm a conservative, I'm a Republican. I like Fox, I like how about being open minded and being a nothing and just looking at the facts. So going back to the Trends Journal, the Iran war going on, the Israel war going on. We subscribe to Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper. We also go to Times of Israel, Wynet, Jerusalem Post. Want to hear everything they have to say? Oh haters. For this we go to Press tv, Tehran Times, we go to Irna Isna. Want to hear what the Iranians have to say? We go to Arab News, we go to Al Jazeera. What if the Arabs have to say, we go to Euro news, we go to BBC, we go to Guardian, we go to France 24, we cover the world and we say this is what they're saying, this is our analysis and this is our trend forecast. And the bottom line of course is think for yourself. But these are the facts that they're all saying. So for example, you know, just before we went on the air, I looked up press TV and US Israel will retreat from region empty handed. IRGC cordfos force chief says you won't read this in the American news. Is he true? Is he false? Oh, no, no. We just obliterated a man. Nobody left. They got no missiles left. That's the side to hear from here. So that's what we do. And then we give our trend forecast and analysis. And that's what journalism used to be, but that's not what it is anymore. And so the grand total of 2.50 cents a week, when you hit your subscribe button, you go to the Wall street journal, was it $5 a day, New York Times, $4 a day and you're getting nothing.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So the reason I subscribe to the Trans Journal is I want to hear it like it is. And you know, Gerald and I the same age and all this, and I'm wearing my, this is my Marine Corps shirt. And I have two tours in Vietnam. And when I was overseas, Gerald, I was on a carrier in the Marine Corps is called an meu. MEU stands for Marine Expeditionary Unit. And so what's sitting in the Hormuz right now is one Marine Expeditionary Unit with a center around the ship called a Tripoli. I flew off to Tripoli in Vietnam. That's how old it is.
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Gerald Celente
Wow.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And we sit there and we'd fly into Vietnam and fight and all this, and then we'd come back to the carrier and we'd have, and this is Walter Cronkite. And that's it. The CBS Evening News. And the pilots in the ready room be screaming, that didn't happen. That didn't happen. And so everybody thought Walter Cronkite was his most honorable man. But Gerald, as you know, he's paid to read the news.
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Gerald Celente
Yep.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And so right here at Arizona State University, the communist republic of Arizona State, they have the Walt the Cronkite Media center or something like that. So the reason I like what Gerald does is that it's about more than the news, is what you don't read is what you hear. And so what Gerald's Trends Journal is about is not the news, but it's the most vital information you can understand in here, because we're sitting off Hormuz right now. We have China pumping around with the biggest national debt in world history. We can't pay our bills, and what the hell are we going to do about it? So, Gerald, that's why when you're on with Danielle Camboni show and all this, and I love her dearly, you unleashed. So when you sit here looking at Hormuz, China and these crooked politicians, what do you want to say? You have three open reign, open mic.
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Gerald Celente
You know, I'd say, again, what's going to go on with the strait of our movies? We're hearing different sides. And now Trump is saying he won't let any ships go through there. And Iran says they're not going to stop it. So. And Israel's ramping up this war. And what they're doing in Lebanon, again, we only put the facts down. Again, we go to all the media. They've displaced 1.3 million people out of Lebanon. And then Guy Katz, that military guy over there in the house, the parliament there, whatever they call it, he said that 600,000 of them will not be able to come back to their homes, and they're going to demolish the homes so they can have a safe zone. So imagine everybody listening. You have to get out of your house. They're going to destroy it, and you can't come back. So, again, there was an article in last week's New York Times that many people spoke about, and it was about Netanyahu and Mossad coming to the United States. And in the Situation Room, which they should call it something else, a stupid room, when you see the people that are in it. And Netanyahu takes the head of the table and tells America why we have to go to war with Iran. I mean, this is unprecedented. So Israel is going to keep ramping up this war. They don't want to cease fire. And again, we only read what they what again, from all sides. And when Trump said that there was a ceasefire agreement to the 10 points that Iran made, one of them was that Israel had to stop attacking Lebanon. And then they said, no, no, that wasn't part of the deal. And you go back to the facts, and it was according even to the Americans in the beginning. So they keep changing it, and every day is a different trip. So here's the story. Again, we only put the facts in the Trends Journal. You go back to President Trump's State of the Union address on February 24. It was a Tuesday it was 8pm when he came out or 9pm the magazine came out a few hours earlier. It's right there. We said that it's highly likely that President Trump will bomb Iran over the weekend. He was going down. We had all the data from the polls. The equity markets were going down really bad. People forget this again. One of our top trends for 2026 is.combust 2.0. Trends are born, they grow, they mature, reach old age and die. You don't invest all you dough in the infant that was born in 2022. And we only put the data in there about how these companies are investing hundreds of billions of dollars in losing money. Then what happened? AI is coming out and wiping out a lot of these software companies. Down goes these private equity groups. The people want their money back and they won't give it back to them. Oh, you only could get 5%, you could get 11%. The markets were going down, they were wiping out software companies. AI, the, the, the poll ratings were terrible. I did a podcast with Judge Napolitano. That's Tuesday, comes out on Wednesday. It's Lenti and the judge, you can see it two days later. I said Trump's going to attack over the weekend. And that's exactly what happened. They do it over the weekend. Now going back to what's going on and what's being said. Again, only the facts. Let's go back when Trump said, you got 48 hours. I'm going to give you 48 hours. 48 hours happened on a Monday. What happened just before the markets opened? Okay, we got a ceasefire deal, we got a peace deal, we're negotiating with them. Brent crude was up to $112 a barrel, went down 12%. The equity markets in the red, they went up. There was no deal being made. They keep saying this stuff back and forth, back and forth, back and forth to rig the markets to keep them going up from not going down. That's the way we see it. And so this thing is going to get again, the problems were there already. Look what's going on with these, with, with, with their, with the private equity groups. It's right there for everybody to look at. They cannot pay the money back that the people want. They've over invested in these, in these things that, that the rich people put their dough in. So we're looking at a dot com bust. And if this is one of my books, Trend tracking far better than mega trends, Time magazine, how I became a trend forecaster, it's right here. The Iran war, Iran conflict back in 19, late 1970s, people had no idea. This is when I became a political atheist. Jimmy Carter comes back from spending New Year's Eve with the Shaw and his wife and said, quote, the Shah is the island of stability in the Middle East. This is when the revolution's going on in the Bronx. We used to say, bullshit has its own sound. I said, this thing's going to go down. And that's when I started playing the gold and oil futures markets. I bet $5,000 in each of them and almost burned up to three quarters of a million dollars. But I'm a young guy once, a lot of it I don't. But anyway, going back, people had zero idea of the United States overthrow of the democratically elected government of Mohammad Mosaddegh in Iran in 1953. Because Mosaddegh had the gall to say, the oil in Iran belongs to the Iranian people, not Anglo Iranian Oil, better known today as BP or Standard Oil, better known today as ExxonMobil. No, it doesn't. Winston Churchill, the little clown boy, the little fat guy with the smoking cigars that couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. And Kermit Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt's grandson. The telegrams are there. They both got together, the MI6 and the CIA to overthrew the government. And then they brought in the savak, the secret police that made the SS look good. So the revolution began back in the late 70s. I said, this thing's for real and it's going to go on. But they just taught us to hate the Iranians without giving us any more information.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Right. So the reason I want to Gerald on board here. It's really a holy war again.
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Gerald Celente
Yep.
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Robert Kiyosaki
It's Christians, Jews and Muslims. Yep. And oil. And the problem with that is is that Iran just said we're going to start trading in yuan.
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Gerald Celente
Yep.
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Robert Kiyosaki
In other words, we're going to stop jump. We're going to dump the US Dollar.
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Gerald Celente
Yep.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And dump trading yuan. That's going to set up World War 10 because you don't mess with the dollar. Everybody who messed with the dollar is dead. There was a guy named Gaddafi, he came out with the dinar oil based. Was it? I forgot the name of Libyan money. And then there was Saddam Hussein who said we're going to trade oil not in dollars, but in euro. And he's dead and go to war immediately when you mess with the dollar and our oil. So the reason I want to come back is the reason you want to understand the Trans Journal is you don't have to be a victim of ignorance because I follow people like Gerald Salante. Hate to say this, but I'm getting richer than a dog. Because once you understand they were going to go to war. Exactly as Gerald said. I used to work for Standard Oil. I'm an oil tanker driver and so my background is oil. I understand oil very well. I backed up the truck and I bought more oil in North Dakota so as it bombed Iran, which stands for Aryan. When they bombed Iran, the price of oil went up and I'm getting richer. Now, this may sound pretty mercenary to most of you, but it's better than being a victim. So the reason we have Gerald Celente on here, you listen to his trends report, you can see what's really going on. That's what. Not what's in the news, but what's really happening. So we come back, we'll be talking more about Gerald Salante, what he sees. But the reason I have him on here is I don't want you to be a victim of fake news. Listen to what Gerald's saying and you can see the future better and he can make your own better business decisions. Like you should have bought oil instead of buying anything else because the price of oil went up and the rich got richer. We'll be right back.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Welcome back. Robert Kiyosaki, Rich Dad Radio Show. We have our guest today. Gerald Celente is a founder of the Trends Journal and we're talking about the trends are not is not in the news. And the reason you want to subscribe to the channel Trans Journal is you can't find out what's really going on and not the trends. And like today I'm wearing my Marine Corps shirt. We're at war in a place called the Hormuz. And I was on board the Tripoli. It was an aircraft carrier and I flew off that aircraft carrier. We're still fighting about oil. I mean because when I was fighting in Vietnam, we were fighting for Occidental petroleum oil. I'm an oil man. So everybody thinks it's about this, it's about that. But Gerald sees it differently. I think we're in a global war again. I think Gerald always says that. He was on Daniela Gamboni show. He says when in doubt we go to war. So that's what I want you to talk about, Gerald. I mean this is more than just Hormuz. It's more than just Venezuela. It's oil. But also Russia is the gas station of the world. So Russia's getting richer. Are we getting richer or are we just sending our military in there that we can't afford to send in there? So Joe, I want to get the trend from a global perspective and that's what you're on here for.
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Gerald Celente
One of the things is that one of my sayings is that the 20th century was the American century, but the 21st century will be the Chinese century. Because the business of America is war and the business of China is business. This is a very different time. You had mentioned before about how they're trading in yuan now with oil. Venezuela and China, a lot of countries have had enough of the dollar. The death of the dollar we see coming. And you also talked about America's debt level. Was there an article in Fortune magazine a few weeks ago that the real debt level is about 143 trillion when you put in Social Security, all the other government debt. And now they're going deeper into debt as when they want another half a trillion dollars to build up the military. And you've been around the world. I mean the infrastructure in America's third world. Everywhere I drive, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Potholes everywhere. You go to China, high speed rail. Again, we only look at the facts the way they are. Let's go back 25 years ago before China came into the World Trade Organization.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Who brought them in? Slick Willie.
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Gerald Celente
You got it.
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Robert Kiyosaki
President Clinton. One of the biggest communists sympathizer we ever had. Next to Barack Obama.
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Gerald Celente
Yep. He brought us all to remember nafta. Get the jobs out of here, bring them down to China, Mexico. You get cheap labor and you pay me off for doing this. So let's go back. The western nations gave China all of the heavy industry and high technology they never had. Go back to the data. Look how great for General Motors, BMW, Volkswagen. Look at the money they were making in China when they first opened up these companies over there. Oh, the Chinese people started buying those automobiles. Not anymore. Who's the biggest seller of EVs now? Oh, the Chinese. Earlier I said about a dot com bust. Before Slick Willie brought China into the World Trade Organization, 10% of Chinese 18 year olds went to college today nearly 70%. And they're all AI high tech addicted. And China's investing extremely heavily in AI which again like it, don't like it, want it, whatever it is going to be.
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Robert Kiyosaki
They're investing in education and AI and we're going boom in the desert. We're just blowing millions and millions of dollars. I got my Marine Corps T shirt on that stuff Costs money. Every time they fire that one of Those rockets is 10, I think 10 ounces or 10 pounds of silver in each one of them. America's going, bro, fighting this war. And China and Russia are getting richer. That's what I want you to have your comment on. Because this is really what's going on.
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Gerald Celente
I'm telling you. That's why we're saying there's going to be a dot com bus. China's going to lead the world in this thing, this country. We became the country that our founding fathers fought against going back to the dollar. The sun never sets on the British Empire. We slaughter people all over the world. We never stop. And what happened after World War I? All those wars cost them so much money. The pound went down, the dollar came up. And now the United States, war after war, after war, after war, the dollar's going down. It's going to go down because of all these wars. And there's going to be an alternative currency. We see and we believe it may be gold backed. And that's the other thing. One of the reasons gold is going down. Look what just happened with Turkey, selling what, $20 billion worth of gold because their currency is going so way down, they got to back it up. Same thing with India, their currency going. This, this war is hurting the whole world. Yes, there's going to be. The other reason gold prices are going down is because when there was a lot of speculation when it hit the $5,600 an ounce mark, now those people had to sell their gold because they're losing money in all of these stocks. They got to cover their losses. So we're very bullish on gold and very bullish on silver.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So this is kind of my question to you. How close to world war are we? We have.
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Gerald Celente
It's already begun.
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Robert Kiyosaki
We're there right now, right?
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Gerald Celente
Yep, it's begun. There's going to be a here. I tell everybody, Google up Franklin Roosevelt, Caesar's Japanese assets. Just Google it up. You'll get history today. On July 24, 1941 or July. Yeah, July 26, 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt seized all Japanese assets in America. You know why those dirty Japanese invaded French Indochina? You mean Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam and you're calling it French Indochina? Well, we're in 26 other countries too. We're in Algeria and Morocco. And again, you could Google it up. History today, Mainstream magazine. Remember the Great Depression's going on. The Great Depression. The Dutch East Indies and the uk United Kingdom. Dutch East Indies. What the hell did a Dutch Student. Indonesia. The same thing with the brush. Sun never sets on the British Empire stealing everything. The United States, the Dutch and the English cut off three quarters of Japanese trade. They stole their money and cut off 88% of their imported oil. They only import 98%. Okay. They had no oil. You cut off their trade and you stole their money. I can't understand why they bombed Pearl Harbor a couple of months later.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Right. So, Gerald, let's go. Let's go. Let's get up. Present time, man. Please, please, please. What's going to happen? That's what we want to know. Because right now, the biggest secret being held is people are dumping bonds to buy gold.
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Gerald Celente
Yep.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Nobody's talking about that.
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Gerald Celente
Yep.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And these financial planners are telling everybody, oh, buy bonds because they're safe. Well, Japan and China's dumping our bonds and they're buying gold. What do you know about that?
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Gerald Celente
You're 100% correct. I say World War III has already begun. And I don't. It may. And I'm concerned about nuclear because there's that thing called the Samson option where Israel says if they lose, they go nuclear. And they have between 200 to 400 nuclear warheads.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So how does a person protect themselves? As soon as I understood what you were saying, I said, okay, I spent a million dollars to buy oil in North Dakota. And when the price of oil went up, I get richer. That sounds mercenary, but it's better than being a victim. So if you're sitting in North Dakota right now and they're bombing, you know, out there in Iran and China, you know, China is not our friend, definitely. And Russia's not our friend. Russia is a gas station of the world. What does an American do sitting in North Dakota?
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Gerald Celente
Again, what I suggest is what you're saying, you know, you. You buy the futures. And again, gold and silver to me are very, very good. And. And oil prices are just going to keep spiking if this war keeps going on. And again, they say one thing and another thing happens, and they're doing it to me by the facts to keep oil prices down as low as they can. And the market's going up, but they're not going to work.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So if you're the trans guy, what do you see over the horizon? What's coming next? We already took out Maduro. Maduro and Venezuela. We have a Marxist as city mayor of New York, Mandami. We have a Marxist as governor of Arizona. And jobs are leaving. Ar. Leaving. Governor of California. They're leaving in droves to go to Florida. People are just running from Marxism all over the world. What do you see happening? Because that's how I see it, because I'm a former U.S. marine, went to military school. I don't see it as good. I see we're at war big time, all over the world. How are we going to pay for it?
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Gerald Celente
Again, we're not. And that's what it's going to bring down. That's what I'm saying. The death of the dollar is coming. We became the United Kingdom by fighting these wars and keeping it going, rather investing in the country. And again, I got to tell you, everywhere I drive potholes, everywhere the bridges are rotten. We have to rebuild our nation. That's the way you rebuild the economy. And to me, that's not what's happening.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And the payment on national debt is more than we spend on war. I mean, we're the biggest deter nation going. So, you know, being ahead of the trends journal, what, what recommendation do you have for the average guy sitting in North Dakota? What do you think?
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Gerald Celente
Why you say guns, gold in the getaway plan? Well, again, what you're doing is you're telling the people exactly the right way with oil. And again, we don't give financial advice, but gold and silver to us are the ways to go. This thing is just going to keep getting worse. Oh, the other thing, by the way, they're saying that one of the reasons gold prices have gone down is because the Federal Reserve won't lower interest rates. What are interest rates now? What, 35375?
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Robert Kiyosaki
I don't know.
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Gerald Celente
What were they when gold started spiking in the late 1970s? Around 12%. Yeah. Interest rates aren't bringing down gold. Ain't even close. So that's not going to gold again, is all. And silver only selling out right now to cover the losses that they've made in the equity markets they need to do to cover them.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Okay.
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Gerald Celente
And as you mentioned, all of these missiles that they're firing loaded with silver, the new AI boom, loaded with silver. So we're very bullish. Silver as long as the war is going on. Brent crude and gold.
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Robert Kiyosaki
So, Joel, you're a political atheist. I know, but I always watch what a person does, not what they say. You know how you tell a politician's lies when the lips are moving? But anyway, you have this guy Trump, he puts a wall up. Biden took the wall down. Fentanyl came across our border. Wasn't it Biden and those guys that put a stop to the US Dollar or something in Russia which caused the BRICS nations to jump all over the place and we basically sanctioned our own money. People are holding our bonds or something like that. Did you say anything about that?
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Gerald Celente
No, I didn't. But again, look what little Biden did, he stole what about $250 billion of our money for the Ukraine war and on and on, you know, again, one after another, you know, to me, you know, by the way, you know, I launched a movement called Occupy Peace that peace rallies here every year and Judge Napolitano, Scott Ritter, Joe Laurier, Roger Waters did a live broadcast to me. It's bring home the troops, secure the whole homeland. That's. I read George Washington's farewell address. He says basically, don't get involved in these foreign entanglements. This stuff has been going on for centuries. We're not going to solve it. And you mentioned this being a religious war. Exactly, exactly. Look what just came out with the pump. Trump going after the Pope. I mean, I'm not making this up.
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Robert Kiyosaki
No. So, so, so with the Trends report final word, I'll give you 30 more seconds. What do you see? What does the Trends Journal going to come about and talk about next? What trend do you see big time coming up?
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Gerald Celente
Well, the big time ones are the global economy. You just saw the numbers come out. Consumer confidence in America now is at an all time low and it's global. So get ready for dragflation, not stagflation. Declining economic growth and rising inflation, which again is positive for precious metals and, and Brent crude. Okay, so that's the way we see it.
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Robert Kiyosaki
And how do, how do people subscribe to the Trends Journal?
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Gerald Celente
Well, they have your, your code there. If they put that in, they get 10% off $2.50 and it's trendsjournal.com trendsjournal.com and, but don't forget to give them the name of your code so they could put it in.
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Robert Kiyosaki
All right, so I want people to subscribe to Gerald's report because the news is fake. And if you really want to stay ahead of what's going on, I subscribe to Trans Journal. Charles, thank you very much. Keep up the good work. I mean it's great to have you out there so people can see what's really happening in the world. So thank you, Joel Salante.
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Gerald Celente
Well, and thank you, Robert, for all that you do. I'm honored to be on with you and all the great advice you've been giving people over the decades. Thanks so much.
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Robert Kiyosaki
Thank you very much. And we'll be right back for the Final word from Robert Kiyosaki
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Robert Kiyosaki
Welcome back. I want to thank Gerald Celente and the Trends Journal. You know, please subscribe to that publication simply because what's in the news is not the news. It's fake. And I wear my Marine Corps shirt here because I was on the Tripoli, which is now out in Hormuz fighting a war out there. And we keep fighting these wars. So the reason I wanted Gerald on the Trends Report is this is your greatest assets between this year and this year. So be careful what you put in here and what you say out here. So ladies and gentlemen, you don't have to be a victim of what's going on in the world today. So thank you. Thanks for watching the rich paying attention to Robert Kiyosaki and the Rich Dad Radio Show. Thank you.
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