The #1 Real Estate Strategy to Get Rich in 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: Rich Dad Radio Show – "The #1 Real Estate Strategy to Get Rich in 2025"

Introduction

In the January 29, 2025, episode of Rich Dad Radio Show, host Robert Kiyosaki engages in an insightful conversation with real estate expert Robert Helms. The discussion centers around strategic real estate investing amidst current economic turbulences and introduces the upcoming Real Estate Guys Summit Cruise—an immersive event designed to empower investors with knowledge and connections.

Current Real Estate Market Overview

Robert Kiyosaki opens the dialogue by addressing the volatile state of the real estate market. He highlights key economic factors impacting real estate, including:

• Market Crashes and Economic Trends: Kiyosaki notes, “[...] real estate that's crashing” and compares the liquidity challenges of real estate versus stocks, emphasizing the necessity for smarter investment strategies. ([03:51])

• Use of Debt in Real Estate: He underscores the importance of leveraging debt wisely in real estate investments, stating, “the best investment is... you get to use debt.” ([02:11])

Real Estate Guys Summit – A Strategic Investment

The conversation shifts to the annual Real Estate Guys Summit Cruise, a pivotal event for real estate investors:

• Event Details and Objectives: Robert Helms elaborates on the 23rd edition of the summit, highlighting its role in bringing together experts to discuss diverse real estate topics and broader economic issues. He explains, “We have to assimilate that knowledge so you can pay attention to when things happen.” ([03:51])

• Immersive Learning Experience: Kiyosaki describes the summit as “like summer camp for the influent,” emphasizing the blend of education and networking opportunities onboard the Celebrity Beyond cruise ship. He mentions, “an exhilarating, stimulating, exciting in the face of all this tragedy going on around us.” ([32:01])

• Notable Speakers and Networking: The summit features renowned speakers such as Kenny McElroy, Peter Schiff, Brent Johnson, and George Gammon. Helms highlights the value of interacting with these experts through panel discussions and roundtables, fostering an environment ripe for transformative learning. ([12:28])

Strategies for Investing in the Current Market

Kiyosaki and Helms delve into tactical approaches for navigating the challenging real estate landscape:

• Risk Mitigation: Helms discusses the necessity of proactive planning, especially concerning natural disasters and their impact on insurance costs. He advises, “Is it worth changing your coverage? Is it worth upping your deductible?” ([22:12])

• Strategic Buying During Downturns: Emphasizing opportunistic investment, Kiyosaki remarks, “When everybody is scared to death and they don't know what to do... that's when you find a deal.” ([31:00])

• Education and Adaptation: Both speakers agree that continuous education and adaptability are crucial. Helms states, “You have to be willing to study, be vulnerable, be open to hearing another perspective.” ([08:42])

Economic Challenges Facing Real Estate

The episode also addresses several macroeconomic factors influencing real estate:

• Natural Disasters and Insurance: Helms shares personal experiences with increased insurance costs due to wildfires and hurricanes, pointing out the direct effects on property investments. ([22:12])

• Interest Rates and Bond Markets: Kiyosaki expresses concern over the bond market’s instability, noting, “the Bond Market is 10 times bigger than all other markets and the Chinese are dumping bonds right now.” ([25:07])

• National Debt and Inflation: Both hosts discuss the broader economic challenges, including national debt and inflation, and their implications for real estate and personal wealth protection.

Real Estate Guys Summit Cruise Details

Further details about the summit cruise are provided to encourage participation:

• Dates and Itinerary: The cruise departs from Miami on June 20th and returns on June 29th, including stops in Nassau, St. Martin, and St. Thomas. Helms encourages early registration, stating, “June 20th to the 29th, 2025.” ([09:28])

• Cabin Pricing and Special Offers: Cabin prices start at approximately $6,000 per person, with discounted rates available for young adults aged 18 to 25. Helms highlights, “It’s not cheap, but either should your investment be.” ([27:23])

• Unique Learning Opportunities: The summit offers a blend of structured educational sessions and informal networking, allowing attendees to engage deeply with faculty members and like-minded investors. Helms mentions, “You get to meet and hang out with the extraordinary faculty.” ([12:28])

Conclusion and Call to Action

Robert Kiyosaki concludes the episode by reinforcing the importance of strategic real estate investment and continuous learning amidst economic uncertainties. He invites listeners to join the Real Estate Guys Summit Cruise as a means to “protect your financial future” and gain invaluable insights from industry leaders.

Notable Quotes

• Robert Kiyosaki: “If it’s not in your brain, it can’t be in your hand.” ([00:39])

• Robert Helms: “Real estate is not liquid. Now that's a challenge if you see a reason to get out, but it's also a benefit...” ([03:51])

• Robert Kiyosaki: “When everybody is scared to death and they don't know what to do... that's when you find a deal.” ([31:00])

• Robert Helms: “You have to be willing to study, be vulnerable, be open to hearing another perspective.” ([08:42])

Final Thoughts

This episode of the Rich Dad Radio Show offers a comprehensive examination of current real estate strategies tailored for 2025’s economic climate. Through the insights of Robert Helms and Robert Kiyosaki, listeners are equipped with actionable knowledge and are encouraged to engage in immersive learning experiences like the Real Estate Guys Summit Cruise to bolster their investment acumen and financial resilience.

Transcript

[Robert Helms]

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[Robert Kiyosaki]

This is the Rich Dad Radio show, the good news and bad news about money. Here's Robert Kiyosaki.

Hello, Hello, Hello, Robert Kiyosaki, the Rich Dad Radio Show. And I thank you all for joining us today with a very interesting show, as all those shows should be interesting, hopefully. But it's with a longtime friend and we're going to be talking to you about what you can do this summer to have fun, make your plans now as well as get more education. Because it's amazing how many times I talk to people if they don't have money in their hands, it's because they don't have money in their head. You know, if they don't have it in there and they'll, well, how can, what can I do? I said study, buy books, listen to YouTube, you know, but what we have is a dear friend, Robert Helms, his father, years and years ago, was the first guy that ever had me on his before podcast. That's how old this was 30 years ago now. But I went on the radio Real Estate Guy show and it was the first time I talked about rich dad, poor dad. So ever since then, Robert Helms senior, Robert Helms, the son, we've been great friends because real estate, in my opinion, is the foundation of wealth. You know, you can have crypto, you can have gold, you can have silver, but dirt is better sometimes. So welcome to the show, Mr. Helms. Good to see you.

[Robert Helms]

Good to see you, my friend. Thanks for having me. It seems like it's been a lot of years. We've been teaching together and apart, and there's still so much to learn.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

And especially today, you know, I'm looking at real estate. You know, we talked about, I've been talking about it for a couple of years now, ever since 2008 when the Fed started just printing money to stop the crash of 2008 and they dropped interest rates and they inflated the supply. Then you had Covid, and now it's called the everything bubble, where the stock market is crashing as predicted, the bond market, which is real to me, frightening that's crashing. And then you have real estate that's crashing. So I was looking at, you know, Florida prices are just crumbling, plus it'd be tough to get insurance right now in Los Angeles. If there's a time to get smarter about real estate, especially it's now. Because the problem with real estate is it's not liquid. In other words, you buy a property and it starts to crash, it's hard to get out of it. Whereas if I buy a stock, let's say I buy Apple stock, and it starts to crash, I can get out that day. But real estate requires you to be a lot smarter. But it's also, in my opinion, the best investment and the reason it's even better investment is you get to use debt. So that's why you gotta be triple smart if you're gonna use debt. You buy real estate with cash. Nobody does. But some debt is the leverage factor in there. So you've gotta be smarter. So we have a real estate guy's crews coming up and I want to talk to all of you about it and have the person who Robert Helms, tell you all about what's going to happen on the Real Estate Guys cruise this summer. Welcome to the show, Robert.

[Robert Helms]

Yes, thank you, my friend. You know, this will be our 23rd year getting together with a whole bunch of smart people, many of whom are very well versed in real estate all over the world and different types of real estate. And you know, you can learn a ton and you should on podcasts and reading and webinars, live events, but you really have to assimilate that knowledge so you can pay attention to when things happen. And you're exactly right. Real estate is not liquid. Now that's a challenge if you see a reason to get out, but it's also a benefit because we don't have emotional reasons to just cut the panic cord like people do with some other more liquid investments. So I think it does provide the best of a lot of worlds, obviously tons of tax advantages to real estate. And there's, there's only so much you can learn from reading the tax code, from listening to folks sharing until you have to make it personal, meaning get one on one and have conversations with people that are really doing it. You know, what I appreciate about you is you're an excellent teacher, you have great head knowledge, but most of it comes from seat knowledge, time in the saddle, having been there and done that. And so once a year we get together with a whole bunch of extraordinary people and we talk not just about real Estate, we talk, we talk about broader picture economics. This year I'm sure we'll talk a little bit about politics, even though we aren't usually too political. We've got a lot to talk about and then the changes that we see coming, right, new administration, all kinds of things that could bode well for real estate and maybe some headwinds. So I think it's important for folks to get away from the daily grind from time to time. You know, I like to think of a retreat where you spend time away, where instead of working in your business, Michael Gerber would say step back and work on your business. And we've been doing this now for 23 years. We spend just over a week together. We learn and we study and we hear from experts and I'll tell you who some of those folks are before we're done. But then the really neat part is we get to talk about that and discuss it with each other, banter it around, debate sometimes it's not like everybody has the same opinion about this stuff. So I think for folks who are looking to navigate what could be a really challenging few years, the best way to do that is with people that are rowing in the same direction. And there's a lot of talk about like mindedness. It doesn't mean everybody thinks exactly the same way, but it means they have their eyes forward. They're trying to figure out how do you adapt based on what's happening in the world. You know, your first summit with US Back in 2012, you did the amazing talk on not not how to beat the Fed, but how to be the Fed. And you helped us drill down to think about what is it that the Fed does and how can we come along. Aside that knowing the direction they're going.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

The best thing about its immersion, you know, like you, you go into another, you go into a time capsule on board a ship. What's the name of the ship this year?

[Robert Helms]

So we're going to spend two days on land in a beautiful hotel in Miami, then get on the Celebrity beyond, which is the same ship we went on last year. Last year was a few months old, we had that new ship smell. But this is one of my favorite cruise ships ever. It's really beautiful, really conducive. You know, we're a few hundred people on a cruise ship of 3,000, so it's not everybody on the cruise is part of our group. But we get all the fun and amenities and parties and all the neat parts, the food that come along with being on a luxury cruise. Line, right?

[Robert Kiyosaki]

And the thing that I think is interesting is that real estate is crashing. If there's a time to buy real estate, it's now.

[Robert Helms]

You know, that's such a good point. I, I'm a friend who says, why is it that Americans love to buy everything on sale except real estate?

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Well, those are. Consumers are not smart people. But anyway, so it's a time to get, get to know people, you know, look at, you know, you've met all my team as Kenny McElroy and Tom Wheelwright and all this, and we're like, joined at the hip. And most people, like, I was talking to this young woman the other day, and she doesn't, her husband doesn't know anything about anything. She got three kids, and she's just busting her butt. And she goes, well, can I buy a piece of real estate and develop an office building on it? I said, what? I mean, ROBERT. Well, people have no idea. Do you know what I mean? And I met other people. This one guy says, well, I don't need to do that cruise. I have a real estate license.

[Robert Helms]

My dad would call that a license to learn the business, not a license to do anything with. And I happily don't have a real estate license anymore. I did for 18 years. Real estate, mostly investment property. But you have to think different. And the most important real estate is that six inches between your ears. But you're right. You, you, not everybody can do it, and not everybody should do it. I think it's really for the person who's willing to study, be vulnerable, be open to hearing another perspective, admit you might be wrong about something and then polish your brain against other brains. As Abraham Lincoln said, that's what makes us stronger isn't when we're sharing what we already know, it's when we're discussing with people that have maybe a different perspective.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Yeah, Robert so when is this cruise? What's the date?

[Robert Helms]

So it's June 20th to the 29th. We start in Miami the evening of the 20th. We'll spend all day on the 21st in the hotel, then the next day, half a day, and then we get on the ship the next day. So it's the 20th to the 29th of June.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

What time does it start? On the 20th.

[Robert Helms]

Yeah. So the 20th is the day you'll arrive into Miami. We don't really do anything that night other than fly there and get registered and be ready. We start the next morning on the 21st with breakfast in the hotel, and that is the tee up to what to expect you get the entire schedule. We don't put the schedule together of who's speaking or what they're talking about until right before because, like Robert, if I were to ask you now what you wanted to talk about, that could be completely different in June. So we want to make sure that we don't have the canned stump speeches that our faculty might do somewhere, but instead come talking about the stuff that's on their mind in the moment. And by June, we're going to be a few months into a new administration, there's going to be further movement in the markets. I think there's going to be a ton to talk about.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

So do you have any idea who the other speakers are?

[Robert Helms]

Well, we've got a few folks confirmed, some of the regulars. Making his 12th appearance with us, your friend Kenny McElroy is joining us. Last year, Kenny brought Daniel.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Can't be on the same ship with him.

[Robert Helms]

Well, it's a big enough ship. We can separate you guys when necessary, but no, Ken's going to be there. He's going to bring Danielle. She's bringing her folks. They last year decided, you know, one of the neat things about the cruise, you know, Robert, you've been many times is at dinner, we're all together. So people change tables so you can talk to different cruisers and different, we call them summit tears. You can talk to the different faculty members. And so this last year, Kenny said, you know, I think Danielle and I would like to host two different tables. And that way people that are interested in what she's doing, you know, single family houses and owning businesses would be different than people want to talk about Kenny and syndication and apartments.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Yeah, if you want an immersion, you want a deep dive, you want to go to pressure cooker the real estate guys cruise zit. What the dates again?

[Robert Helms]

It's June 20th to the 29th. You can find out all the [e-mail].

[Robert Kiyosaki]

I said Miami, it starts.

[Robert Helms]

We start in Miami. We're going to go to some pretty beautiful places. You know, most of the folks that come back on the summit, more than half the people are generally alumni. They don't really care where we stop. But if you've never been on a cruise, this is a good one. We're going to go to Nassau in the Bahamas, beautiful port, lots of fun to do there. And then we're also going to go to St. Thomas and St. Martin, so two beautiful places to see. And the way it works is on the days that we're at sea, classes, seminars, roundtable discussions, great Dinners, parties at night. And then on the port days, we just go have a good time, see what's there to see and get to know people.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

It's really emergent learning and people learning. And the reason I say that is I was in Vancouver, the Vancouver Resource Investor Conference, the VRC great conference. And people want to talk to me. I said, I'm in and I'm out. Well, let's sit down and talk. I said, I don't have time for you. So those who want to sit and talk to guys like me and Kenny and some other characters on the real estate guys cruise, this is your time.

[Robert Helms]

We have some characters and it's great that you're always willing to have those conversations with folks. We do get people from the cruise line that aren't part of our group that, that recognize you and that's always fun. But your friend Peter Schiff is coming back with us again. Always fun to hang out with. Peter, he thinks is a contrarian. I think Brent Johnson's gonna be with us again. Our, our mutual friend George Gammon will be with us. Brian London is coming back. It's going to be awesome, man.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

The oldies but the goodies, but they're the leaders. They're the apostles of the new money right now. That's how I see them. You know, they're just the leaders of thought and business. And you know, it's not found in the MBA programs. It is now with the entrepreneurs outside who are doing it in real life. So Brent Johnson is a dollar milkshake theory guy. Peter Schiff tried to sell me some gold. I couldn't fucking believe that, man. Peter.

[Robert Helms]

If you hang around Peter for too long, he'll try to sell you some gold. That's for sure.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Peter, I own gold mines. Yes, but you know, he couldn't even hear a word I was saying. He would go into his sales pitch and going, peter, I got more gold than you do, you know, but it stuck.

[Robert Helms]

Well, that brings up a good point, is that there really aren't any sales pitches allowed. We don't talk. I mean, Peter gets a little bit of a past because he always talks about his company. But that's kind of the context because that's what he's paying attention to. And he can speak for two hours without notes and just nail all the latest statistics, Peter. And all of that. But it really is designed to be educational, but to your point, transformational. I mean, you can do more in a week. The investor summit that you could get accomplished in five years. Just wandering around from Conferences and, and webinars and podcasts.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

He is really a genius. But he had some cufflinks he wanted to unload on me.

[Robert Helms]

He had solid gold cufflinks and, and they look great on you, Robert.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Yeah, I never, I couldn't believe his markup on him either, because, you know, but anyway, it's entertaining. Robert Helms and his team keeps entertaining. It's auditorium style learning also, and breakouts and meal times. But you really get to know people in depth. And one of the most important assets I have are my friends like Robert helms and Kenny McElroy and Brett Johnson, George Gammon. These are my friends and they go, how do you get rich while you have smart friends? And I was talking to this one woman yesterday. Who are your smart friends? Oh, my son's in the Navy, and she's the one who wanted to buy a piece of land, develop an office building. I'm going, how much real estate do you own? None. But it can't be that hard. I'm saying, oh, my God, do you know what I mean? People are just. She's an extreme case of naive, but we're all naive at something, and that's why you come and you put, you. What you put together is a fantastic program once again with the dates and times. And before we get back, I want to dial it in.

[Robert Helms]

Yeah, we'll start, we'll start Miami, Florida on June 20, and we'll spend a couple of days on land, then we'll hop aboard the beautiful celebrity Beyond. Seven days on the cruise, tons of fun parties at night. We watch a movie together, usually one night. And then the roundtable discussions at lunch. That's where the summit ears lead conversations about what they're doing in real estate and other markets. And we'll also have, obviously, the main stage time where our featured faculty members will get to share with us. But I think the most unique thing is the panel discussions. I can listen to these individual podcasts, but what I can't usually do is hear four or five really smart people banter back and forth and, and talk about the issues of the day. And that's awesome.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Yeah, the crew is really a gift you give yourself. So we come back, we'll be talking to Robert Helms because he is, after all, the real estate guys become the real estate guys cruise. But I want you to give it a. Give me a point of view on real estate today, because I look all over the world and I, you know, this fire in California with insurance and the storms on the, on the East coast with collapsing stuff and homeowners associations jacking prices due to insurance rates. So this is a tumultuous time in real estate, which is a good time if you're an investor. It's a bad time if you're a dreamer. We'll be right back with Robert Helms.

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Welcome back Robert Kiyosaki, the Rich dad Radio show. Today our special guest is Robert Helms. As I said, his father was the first guy let me speak about rich dad, poor dad years and years ago. And, and you know, I'm a real estate guy. His father's real estate guy. Robert's real estate guy, Kenny McElroy is a real estate guy. We're real estate guys because real estate is the foundation of wealth. One more thing that's great about real estate, it provides income if you want and it's stable, but only if you're smart. And I'll say it again, I meet so many people who say, well, how come I'm broke? Because my rich dad always said to me, if it's not in your brain, it can't be in your hand. And so the reason so many people lose something, they go to a financial planner and they just tell them, you know, well, diversified portfolio, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, ETFs and stock market is crashing with China's deep, deep sea. Whatever. What was that? AI? Yeah, but the market is crashing. The boomers are screwed. This is my friend Rickards here, MONEY GPT. It's how AI is going to affect the stock main, the real banking industry. So we're in a major area of turmoil and we have the California fires and the storms on the East Coast. So property prices are going down because expenses are going up, prices are crashing. And it's bad news if you're stupid. It's good news if you're going to be an investor. So, Robert, what do you see with all this thing with wildfires and what's happening on the east coast of Florida? Condos are crashing and the California wildfires. What do you think of all this?

[Robert Helms]

Yeah, it's a great question. You know, there are so many external forces on real estate and one of the ways that we build in that stability that you're talking about is through thinking ahead. If you're going to buy, say in a flood zone, well, you're going to need flood insurance. That's more expensive today than ever. And if you're going to Get a loan, even though you might not necessarily need to insure at the highest level, your lender is going to require that. And so when we see these natural disasters, it has an effect. So I just got a notice two days ago. Now, my insurance that I've had with the same company for eight years, I paid them tens of thousands of dollars every year because I got a lot to insure and never a claim. They dropped me not because of anything, except they're trying to change their risk profile. So I think when the market changes, we just have to be ready and come up with solutions. Two of the biggest expenses that we've seen skyrocket are interest rates, right? Went up. Not only did they go up a lot, they went up really fast. And that threw people off. And of course, as you mentioned, insurance and catastrophic insurance is becoming more and more expensive. And that's not because insurance companies are greedy. Not a big fan of insurance companies, but it's because of the actuarial or the cost. And when you have a big, big issue like those amazing wildfires, I mean, you have to, you know, have a heart for just the people that have had their lives changed or taken when something like that happens. And now you're going to actually have a higher need for real estate. And the same thing with the storms and the hurricanes. So there are areas where you have to be prot from those things. You know, we have a couple of developments. I'm here today in beautiful Puerto Rico. Well, Puerto Rico got hit by Hurricane Maria and the property that I'm on got completely devastated. Every building was destroyed, crops were destroyed. This is 900 acres and now it's being rebuilt. But everything they're approaching from a development point of view is about Category 5 hurricane protection. Because when you don't build that way, that's a big risk you take. And so as real estate investors, we're balancing risk and reward. The rewards. What everybody wants to focus on, hey, it's going to provide cash flow and tax benefits and it's going to go up in value. My tenant's going to pay down the mortgage. And all that is great, but we don't spend enough time focusing on the what ifs. So there's a lot of great ways to mitigate risk. Insurance is about the well known. But when the cost to do has becomes like it is now, you have to start thinking about it. Is it worth changing your coverage? Is it worth upping your deductible? These are the things you have to think about in these times.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

It's a lot to learn. Real estate is a very, very sophisticated, complex subject. So that's why this person I'm talking to, well, I. If an idiot like me, you know, can do it, it's okay.

[Robert Helms]

Die.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

I'm going, Jesus. And she's got nothing. I mean, nothing. It's got a bunch of kids.

[Robert Helms]

Well, at least it seems she has desire. And maybe that's a start. If she'll read the books, if she'll study, if she'll apply. Too many people are looking for that easy answer. Like we were together the other day and the gentleman who was retrieving the cars wanted his picture with you, and he wanted to ask you a question and he's like, well, what should I do? Which is always the question. And your answer was, we'll get educated. And as trite as that may sound, that's exactly what has to happen. You have to get educated or have someone on your team who is.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Especially today, because look, we got fires, hurricanes, AI. And again, I. You want, you want to scare the crap out of you is money. GPT by Jim Rickards is how AI is going to sink the money, the banking system. But the biggest thing I'm watching is the bond market, because the Bond Market is 10 times bigger than all other markets and the Chinese are dumping bonds right now. So anybody who thinks, well, I'll just, you know, real estate is going to be like yesterday. You know, tomorrow will be like yesterday. I think they're dreaming. And on the other side of it, it's the biggest opportunity to get smart. You know, I was talking to this guy, he says, yeah, I just, I just buy homes and I flip them. I'm saying, I think those days are gone for a while now. Don't get me wrong, I just bought two more properties with Kenny, you know, $20 million each. So I am putting my money where my mouth is, but I'm not stupid about it. The point here is this. It's time to get smarter. I don't care what you're in. Stocks, bonds, mutual funds. I predicted in my book Rich Dad's prophecy, the biggest crash was coming. We entered it just now. And the reason is, is because our interest rates, I mean our national debt, as everybody knows, is all time highs. The interest payment on our debt is more than we pay for national defense. And we have Trump coming to market. He's going to raise tariffs, he's going to create. I mean, I love the guy, he's a great, smart man, but it's not going to be a smooth ride so that's why it's a real estate guy's cruise. How much does it cost, Robert?

[Robert Helms]

So it cabins start at about $6,000 a person, which is a healthy investment. Understand that's all your lodging, all your meals, all your fun. It's going to be extraordinary. And it depends on the type of cabin you want. If you're okay with an inside cabin, it's less expensive than if you decide you want to have a beautiful suite. And every year we set aside 30 spots for young adults, people ages 18 to 25, and their charge is $2,500, which is less than it costs for us to put it on. But it creates an awesome environment with these enthusiastic young people. They love hanging around you and learning from you. And really all the faculty, we always do one session where it's just the faculty, you, Kenny, Peter, all with just the young adults because the future is in their hands. So you can get all the [e-mail] or just go to the Real Estate Guys site or Real Estate Guys radio where it says summit.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

And what are the dates again and where you sail from?

[Robert Helms]

Yeah, so we're going to sail from Miami. You want to arrive on June 20 and then the festivities will start early the next morning. We'll spend a day and a half in the hotel, get on the cruise ship for seven days. We'll go to the Bahamas, St. Martin, St. Thomas, and you will. It's like summer camp for the influent. You'll come and you may not know hardly anybody, but by the end you'll have best friends. You'll have new people you stand in contact with for the rest of your life. You get to meet and hang out with the extraordinary faculty. Brian London from the Gold Newsletter. Our friend Dana Samuelson will be there. We've got real estate developers, we've got gentlemen's going to talk about AI, we've got cryptocurrency, we're talking about broader picture economics and then drilling down to what does all that mean for real estate investors right now? So I can't think of a better way to get a ability to collapse time frames. Really get your education, jump started so you can make this your best year yet.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Yeah, and I own Kenny and I own tons of real estate. I also own gold mines and silver mines. I also own cattle. Do you know, I only invest in things I can see, touch and feel. But my concern is the bond market. You know, I'm keep watching that. And, and so every time I'm hanging around with on the real estate guys cruise, I get to find out guys who are extremely good with bonds and stocks because I'm weak at that area. I am very weak on that area. I know it, it doesn't make any sense to me. But bonds are debt and the Chinese are dumping it right now. So what's that going to mean for the future? Plus, one more thing is the boomers, baby boomers are retiring. So they were a tremendous source of money for the investment market. So boomers are getting out. Where's this money? The bond market is going to go down. This is either the best time or the worst time.

[Robert Helms]

It sure is. And the great, the, all the wisdom of the markets can be summed up in that scene in Caddyshack where Rodney Dangerfield says, sell, sell, sell. They're all selling. Well, then buy, buy, buy. When everybody is scared to death and they don't know what to do. If you'll maintain your poise and you'll surround yourself with smart people and you'll let your friends poke holes in your thesis and, and you get to something that works, that's when you find a deal. It's why you and Ken and I are buying right now. But we're not just buying anything. We're being strategic. Now multiply that times 200 people and you've got an incredible opportunity to find out where the opportunity is going.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

That's correct. And there's always an opportunity. And real estate is a foundation. So once again, as the real estate guys cruise dates again, Robert.

[Robert Helms]

June 20th to 29th, 2025. It's even hard to say 2025. You get the [e-mail] you'll see a button that says Summit. We'd love to have you hang out with Robert and, and our friend Ken McElroy, Peter Schiff, all the folks. George Gammon. It's going to be an extraordinary. We still have several faculty members that haven't fully committed. We'll be announcing those as time goes on. But you can get all the details if you'll just check it out at investors [e-mail] I cannot wait to hang out with you, my friend, for a week.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Yeah, I can't, I can't wait. I mean, it's just such an exhilarating, stimulating, exciting in, in, in the face of all this tragedy going on around us. It's the best time, but you've got to be smarter, that's all.

[Robert Helms]

Yeah.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

How much again?

[Robert Helms]

How much again starts at $5,900 or an inside cabin per person. And you can spend as much as you want. We got a bunch of nice sweets and those things. But you're not going to spend a lot of time in your cabin. And it's not a vacation. It's fun. We have a great time. You're going to see beautiful parts of the world. But we work you pretty hard. And that's because we have this unique cocoon we have for nine days. We want to take absolute maximum ability to learn, to study, and to get connected to people. So join us. It's not cheap, but either should your investment be. People ask, you know, is it expensive to come on the summit? And I always say, well, that depends on if you come or if you don't. Yeah, you don't come.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

It's going to be really about $6,000, everything included, for nine days.

[Robert Helms]

Yeah. Yeah. Food. And the. Food's great. Oh, my gosh, the four dining rooms in this ship. Amazing food. Late night parties, early morning walks around the deck. We have groups that exercise together. We have people that do meditation. And it's just, it's so much fun. And you're, you're almost forced to meet so many people because at every meal, you're with different folks. And it can really, really catapult your investment career, whatever you choose to invest in.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Okay, once again, as a real estate guy, summit at sea. And the dates again, I want to.

[Robert Helms]

Keep pounding June 20th to the 29th.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

Yeah. So I'd like to have everybody there. This is the biggest opportunity given the turmoil the world is entering into. You know, it's, it's, it's unbelievable. So, anyway, we'd love to see you guys. I love going on the cruise. I go to learn and of course, argue with Peter Schiff of.

[Robert Helms]

Those are the two things. Learn and argue with Peter Schiff.

[Robert Kiyosaki]

But anyway, that's how we learn. And what is our greatest asset today? Well, it's the gap between our left ear and our right ear. So, Anyway, thank you, Mr. Helms, and thank you for being a friend for all these years of the Rich dad company and the message of financial education. We'll be right back.

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[Robert Kiyosaki]

Welcome back. Wanna thank Robert Helms real estate guys and please check it out. Real estate guys summit at sea cruise this June. Going out of Miami nine days trying to get $6,000. I don't know where you can. You can't set a hotel for that much and everything's included. But you go there for the feed your mind and all this. I think the most important thing is you go there to meet people who are like you. People who want to get ahead, people who don't panic when markets are crashing and they're crashing right now. But it's the best opportunity. It's the best opportunity. So other thing, too is when Kenny and I are there, we're going to be talking about an infinite return. Why you don't need money to make any money at all. We use zero money and we make millions together. So it only depends upon here. And as my rich dad said to me, if it's not in your hands, because it's not in your brain. So I thank Robert Helms again. See you guys at the Real Estate Investor Summit at sea. Thank you for watching Rich dad program and Get Smart.

[Robert Helms]

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