
Most people think studying ends when school does. But what if the real secret to freedom—financial, spiritual, and personal—comes down to how well you study? In this episode of the Rich Dad Radio Show, Robert Kiyosaki sits down with entrepreneur Clay...
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Hello, hello, hello. ROBERT kiyosaki, Rich Dad RADIO SHOW it's an exciting time also, I think a treacherous time, a spooky time also. But it's always, you know, dangerous, a good time. Today my guest is Clay Clark and I was, I went out with Tom Wheelwright to visit Clay with Eric Trump also. And the reason I want to talk to Clay this morning is a very important subject called study and reason. I say that is things are changing so fast and many people are completely missing the show. You know, things are changing at rapid, rapid, rapid speed. Technology is changing. As I went to Tulsa again with Tom Wheelwright and Eric, Eric Trump and the thing I was so impressed about, Clay, is this word called study. I don't know, you guys must, must be in your water or something, Clay. But boy, I was so, so impressed how big you guys are. But what really impressed me was you have this huge congregation. They're all about guys your age, they're on fire. And you start your classes at 5 in the morning. Now, let me talk to you about study here. We show our books here. This is how I study. You know, this is the Creature from Jekyll Island. It's on the Fed and what, and Clay, Clay's doing the same thing. We study. So I go out to Clay's place in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He's built this huge compound out there. And you guys start at 5:00 in the morning. It's not by Zoom. They drive there, they show up 5:00, bright haired, bushy tailed and all this. And they're on fire. Your group is on fire. So that's what was on Clay, this technology. You tell your group I was so, so impressed because like I said, studies became a bad word. I got into fights in my own company because our staff didn't want to study anymore. And I just, I don't know how they cannot do that. So, Clay, anyway, welcome to the Rich Dad Radio Show. That's what I want to talk to you about is how do you do it? 5:00 in the morning, you have hundreds of people Showing up in your huge, huge, huge auditorium on your property to study. Anyway, welcome to the show, Clay. And what turns you on so much? That's what I want to know. Give us a little about your background.
Clay Clark
Well, I'll say this. First off, it's a beyond an honor to be on your show. And I've been buying gold, specifically since 2005, when it was $450 an ounce because of you. And now the price of gold is over 3400. Who knows what it's going to be when the show comes out. So, again, I mean, I can't thank you enough for helping me increase my. My net worth by sevenfold. Eightfold. Second thing is, your books have made such an impact on my life. And for anybody who doesn't have your books, I recommend that you read these books. What happens is it's not about knowledge. It's about the application of knowledge. So Napoleon Hill, the bestselling author of the book called Think and Grow Rich, he said that action is the real measure of intelligence. And so when I read your books, I was also reading Napoleon Hill. That's why my son's name is Aubrey Napoleon Hill Clark. I named my son after Napoleon Hill. And I'm going, in this book, there's great potential power, but knowledge without application is meaningless. And so I started, Robert, a DJ company which I haven't owned in over 15 years, called dj connection.com. and we were doing 4,000 weddings a year. 4,000 weddings a year. That's 80 weddings every weekend. And people kept saying, can I pick your brain? Can I pick your brain? And so this was the pitch I told people, I said, here's the deal. You cannot pick my brain, but I will charge you some fee that you can pay on a monthly basis. And I just want a small percentage of your growth. And they go, huh? I go, just a small percentage of your growth because that makes it worth my time and your time and the whole thing. And then eventually, Robert, I got to 160 clients. And I thought to myself, that's a lot of partners, a lot of clients. I know what I'll do. Let's just start having conferences. And so this is my 20th year having these conferences. And I think why people come at 5 in the morning is because when they go to thrivetimeshow.com they see over 2000 documented case studies of real people on video that say, hey, my name is Aaron Antis, and I've grown my company from 14 million to 150 million. And people go, what? And People say, hi, my name is Lindsey Blankenship, and I was a startup, and now it's a multimillion dollar company called Revitalize Medical Spa. And people go, hi, I'm the founder of Oxy Fresh. I now have 500 locations. And people go, 500 locations. And so, Robert, I guess the answer is I have a very low Turnover program with 160 longtime clients, very limited availability, and it works. And people want to apply what they're learning. And so that's why it was such an honor to have you, because you're the master of application. And you and Tom Wheelwright, you guys broke down the biggest expense that every entrepreneur faces, which is taxes. And you made it very practical and very tactical, and it was an honor to have you and Eric Trump there. And now that Eric Trump comes to all of our business conferences, I, I said, we've got to get Robert Kiyosaki in the house. So, again, thank you for lowering your standards and joining me, sir.
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Lowing my standards, I was. I just want to let everybody know you have, you have a, how many acres do you have out there? You have your, you have your house, you have this, this, I call it an amphithe, and that's really an amphitheater, but it's a, it's an auditorium that you built on your property. And like I said, your parking lot fills up at 5 o'clock in the morning. How do you, what, how come you guys are on fire in Tulsa, Oklahoma?
Clay Clark
Well, you know what's wild too, Robert, is, you know, probably 95% of my clients are not from Oklahoma. So what happens is, is I tell people, look, hey, we have limited availability. We're going to have 300 people at this conference, and I keep the attendance small. And I say, listen, if you're not wanting to grow your company, if you're just coming because you want to get a photo with a celebrity, and you like fog machines and you like skinny jeans and fancy clothes, and you like to just pose and get fake influencers to fake. Take fake photos with, you don't come. But if you're a real entrepreneur and you're not afraid of giving someone a high five at five, come to our conferences. And I think that's what that's been, the filter process. Because when you study the lives of multimillionaires, I mean, over the years, I've interviewed the founder of Square, I've interviewed the founder of Netflix, the interview, I've interviewed Wolfgang Puck, guys like yourself. When I interview people like Eric Trump, they All wake up at 6am or before. You just don't see super successful people that are waking up at noon. And so it's sort of a filter process. And because Robert, I've been doing it for 20 years, you're pretty much now surrounded by only high quality, get her done. People that love to study and do deep work. And I say deep work. What's deep work? You once said, I'm quoting it. If I mangle it, I apologize. But there's a quote. You said, professionals hire coaches, amateurs do not. Yeah, I wrote that down. I wrote that down. I heard you say that the first time. Well over 15 years ago. I wrote it down and I thought to myself, why does Michael Jordan have a coach for fitness and Kobe Bryant has a coach and why don't I have a coach for accounting? So I did what you recommend. I hired a coach to help me with accounting and I thought about him going, why don't I have a coach to help me with the legal aspects of my company? And I hired a coach to help me with my accounting.
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And.
Clay Clark
And I still use the same coaches 10 plus years later. But again, there's one thing to hear it and it flies by. There's another to grab that idea and to apply it. And so how do you find the time to apply these things? I recommend that you wake up, you set your alarm at 4am or 5am every single day and you get up and you spend the first three hours of your day designing your life. And so I decided this idea, I thought to my thought to myself, self, I would like to have a 40 acre ish compound slash hobby farm where my wife and I and our five kids can raise our family and where we can offer the world's best business conference experience. And so I wrote it down, I sketched it, I drew it. I actually have a picture. This is a sketch of what I'm working on in my backyard right now. So I sketch this stuff out. You've been to my backyard, so I sketch it out. And when you came to the conference, I noticed that we are a little bit short on places for people to go. So I sketched out how I want the additions to be. And next time you come back, if I can trick you into coming back, we'll have more editions. And I'm just constantly sketching out my future ideal in every way possible. And then every day I work towards it.
Unknown
Well, you know, Clay, it was spiritual. I mean, your people are on fire. And I don't mean that in a bad way. They were so turned on. And like I said, in my own company, I couldn't get them to read a book. And I fired them. And I did. I said, I don't want to hang around people who are just going to cruise along with life because it's not worth it to me. And so that's why I want to talk today about what you do. I mean, pastors, Pastor, what's his last name?
Clay Clark
Jackson Longmire.
Unknown
Jackson, I mean, even your pastor is on fire. Why don't you tell his story? Because he's got this massive church and all this. Yeah, you got. Well, let me fire out there.
Clay Clark
Well, let me give a big shout out to Pastor Jackson Lawmire. This is a true story. Your good friend, Donald J. Trump, America's 47th president, selected personally Pastor Jackson Lawmire to be One of the 15 pastors who he works with. So you hear about President Trump's faith council. You look in the picture, you're going to see a guy under the age of 40. That's Pastor Jackson Lawmire. This is a guy. His church is Sheridan Church. And I know this is not a religious broadcast, but Pastor Jackson is a diligent man who really does believe he's supposed to work as to the Lord. And President Trump saw him. He caught President Trump's attention. And so he is one of the pastors that President Trump has personally selected to lead America's faith leaders. So when you see President Trump had an Easter meal with the pastors, Pastor Jackson's in that photo. Now, Pastor Jackson is an entrepreneur who has read all of your books and he's diligently applied the principles that you teach. And he did that because he never wanted to build a church where he was dependent upon donations to be able to pursue his vocation. The word vocation means calling, meaning he never wanted to have to get up in front of a platform and browbeat people for money in order for his church to be solvent. He never wanted to be one of those churches where they spend 90% of the sermon begging you for money. He wanted to be a church where he could focus on teaching the Bible and he wanted to be self sustaining. So he, as a young man, true story. He has read your books, he's applied your books. When I told him that you were going to come to our workshop, he lit up like a Christmas tree. He lit up like a kid on the, on Christmas morning, he was so excited. He said, robert Kiyosaki is coming to Tulsa. And he was just so excited because you in many Ways have kind of written the business Bible. And so he was on fire to see you. And people say, clay, how did you meet Eric Trump? Eric Trump and I met through all this nonsense about the lockdowns and the quarantines, and I just refused to lock down. And he and I got to be good friends through that process because he discovered me because I wouldn't lock down and I wouldn't back down. And he liked that kind of energy. And we were comparing schedules, and he says, you wake up at 4am too? And I said, yes, sir. He goes, I wake up at 4am he goes, Do you work six days a week? I said, I do work six days a week. He goes, awesome. And he and I became friends. And now we've done, I think, 26 events together or 25 events together. So, Robert, Eric Trump is a diligent doer as well. But Pastor Jackson Lawmar, I'm telling you, everyone should look him up. He is the future of ministry in America. Check him out at Sheridan. That's his website. Yeah.
Unknown
And what was really interesting about your group, you're all young guys, you know, I'm a boomer, and you guys are on fire. When you come back, I want you to talk about what would you say to people? How do you get that fire? You know, for. For me, I started to study in Vietnam, and because it kept me alive, it kept my faith going. You know, that at nights before a battle, aircraft carrier, you know, the rocking of the ship going like this. And I just every. I'm not really religious, but I do believe there's a God. And I just sat out there and went, you know, dear God, tomorrow morning we fly into battle. We're up at 4:00 and we're launching by 6. So, you know, about 25 planes are taking off. And I just wanted to fly with spirit. And that's when. That's when I started to learn a lot about exactly what you're saying. It's action, you know, and I have my cash flow board game back here. And that came after Maria Montessori, the Montessori school system. And she says, what the hand does, the mind remembers. So when you come back, I want you to talk about what does it take to get somebody's fire going, that they want to come back to life and learn and take part. Take part in the greatest. You know, we're in a dangerous economy right now, but it's also the biggest opportunity in the world. And so many people getting crushed. You know, homelessness is expanding and so we have a lack of spirit in our country, right? So we come back and we have Clay Clark and I just want you to talk about getting that fire to learn and study and take part in life. So we'll be right back, Clay. So thank you. Welcome back. Robert Kiyosaki, Rich Dad Radio Show My guest today is Clay Clark and my good friend Tom Wheelwright and I traveled to Tulsa, Oklahoma to visit Clay as long as my other friend Eric Trump and his father and I are good friends. Wrote this book together called Midas Touch. And we're talking about the word study because when I went out to Clay Clark's place in Tulsa, he has a compound out there. I mean, it's huge estate and he had this huge, huge Are you getting richer or poorer?
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Richdad, which are a term that he's built. And he had hundreds of people there at 5 o'clock in the morning to study. And you know, it was almost a worship. I looked at it, said this is a church or what? But you guys have made learning a religion. And that's what I wanted to have you on the Rich dad radio show for Clark, because your, the people around you are impressive. I was so in awe, humbled and honored. I mean there's such good people. But they came to you to study in Pastor Jackson and all you young guys out there. And then I go around, like I said, I had to let go of my company because they refuse to study. I study every single day. It's a religion to me. I don't mean I study religious things, but I study every single day. I was just out in the South Pacific, you know, watch looking at The World War II sites, you know, like Iwo Jima and Palau and Okinawa. And the guy I met there was going about your age and this guy studies, this whole group studies. They're multimillionaires on that trip. So how do you get people so turned on Clay? I mean, you do it in mass.
Clay Clark
Let's say this real quick. I'm going to give people a spiritual answer, not a religious one, a spiritual answer that I'll get really specific. So what I do is the Hebrew word work means worship. So if you look up the Hebrew word, the word work means worship and worship means work. I happen to identify as a Christian. If you're watching, you don't, that's fine. But I believe I'm supposed to work as unto the Lord and the word work. Work means worship. Think about it, folks. In Hebrew, the word work means worship and worship means work. So when I'm worshiping, if I claim to be a Christian, I'm working as unto the Lord and not as unto human masters. So I am over delivering because I know it will cause me to eventually be overpaid. I am filling the room with confidence because I have confided in myself, I've confided in myself during this instance that I'm doing what God wants me to do. I know that this is the day that the Lord has made, but what I do with that day is my gift to God. Every day that I have is a gift from God. And what I Do with it is a gift to God. So that's how I get myself fired up. Now, as far as specifics for other people, I say, listen, you're at this conference, you're watching this show, you're interacting with me right now. And time is your most important asset. Time is your most valuable asset. I don't care how old you are, how young you are. I tell people, look, I grew up poor. I worked at Applebee's, Target, and DirecTV simultaneously en route to building my empire or whatever this compound is. But everybody out there, what you want to do is think about your life perfect in every respect. Where do you want to be 18 months from now? Where do you want to be 18 months from now? Everybody watching today's show, write it down. Where do you want to be 18 months from now? And then we have to go. S M A R T smart. Goals. We have to set specific goals. What are our specific steps we need to take daily to get up that mountain? M. Measurable. They have to be measurable. They can't be. Woo woo. It can't be this pseudo esoteric, vague cloud of no. They have to be measurable. A actionable. They have to be actionable. You have to take your big idea and turn it into action steps. Realistic. Your goals have to be realistic, Are realistic, and t is time sensitive. We're only going to live once. Life is not a dress rehearsal. So when people go to thrivetimeshow.com and they click on the testimonials button and they go, you know, this guy's been doing the same thing for 20 years. He's a little more pale in person than I thought he would be. I'm surrounded by people that weren't born yesterday that are successful, but people who are young or people who are old. And people start to go, you know what, Robert? If somebody can do it, who's old? If someone can do it, who's young? If someone can do it, who grew up poor? If someone can do it, who grew up wealthy? If these people all eliminated their excuses and they decided to transform from victims into victors, perhaps I can do it, too. And I think that's what unlocks the excitement, is people go, you know what? I'm going to go back to my hometown, and I'm going to diligently implement these systems and processes. And then because we've diligently documented these success stories for 20 years, you start to go. And a lot of our longtime listeners will go on the site and they'll say, clay, you interviewed a mother of seven named Lindsey Blankenship. Her husband was working 80 hours a week. She's a mother of seven. And her and her husband started a company, Pre Covid, and now it's a massive medical spa. Well, I don't have any excuses. They go to belovedcheesecakes.com they see Jennifer, a recently divorced single mom who started a Cheesecake Factory. And now it's a nationwide success story. People start to say, you know what? I think I can do it, because I'm going to eliminate my own excuses. So, Robert, long answer, but hopefully that was specific for you, sir.
Unknown
No, I love it. Because, Clay, the reason I want you on my show, it's not just the mind. You know, we have a body, mind, spirit, and we have emotions and emotions. You know, when they talk about EQ or I, this iq, emotion, intelligence, but emotional intelligence. And you touch the spirit, Clark. You know, Clay, you. You touch their spirits and their fire goes on them. And that's what I want to know, how you do it and how do people. Can I suggest anybody listening to this, if you live near the Tulsa wing, just go visit what you're doing. Because to see your compound, I mean, your home is a mansion. And you open it up to everybody and you feed everybody. I'm going, my God, your spirit is so on fire. That's what I think is missing in life today, is that spirit, you know, I mean, you're on fire. And you passed it on to your, let's hate to say it, your congregation, but your followers out there, 5:00 in the morning, they're turned on and ready to study and learn and get back to work, you know?
Clay Clark
Well, you know, Robert, one thing that I do, and this is a visualization exercise. And again, I'm not getting religious. I'm telling you what I do. My father, may he rest in peace, he died of Lou Gehrig's disease approximately five years ago. And I had to watch my father suffocate en route to death. It was the worst. Just, I won't choke up on today's show, but I mean, it's just. Just talking about or thinking about it, it's heavy. I'm saying that because somebody out there watching today's show, it's heavy. It's heavy. And so when I grew up poor, a lot of your listeners grew up poor. And what happens is my dad's delivering pizzas and he was working. My dad, specifically, my father, may he rest in peace, was delivering pizzas for Domino's and working the Night shift at a gas station chain called Quick Trip. So my middle school years were spent with my father working two jobs to put food on our table. But he had a college degree, AKA he had gone through the Marxist indoctrination camp known as college. And so my father was really, really doing his best to provide for us. And I appreciate him doing that. And I, I wouldn't criticize anything about my father. He did such a great job trying to provide for us. But I recognized at the age of 15, I'm going, you know what, I am not going to live that way. And so I started a company out of my parents basement called dj connection.com and I decided I am going to have success. And so I reached out to millionaires and people that I kind of knew through church and friendships and people that parents of my friends. And I said, what book would you recommend that I read? I'm a 15 year old asking this question, true story. And I kept being told, you got to read Rich Dad, Poor dad and you got to read Think and Grow Rich. Napoleon Hill. Now Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich. I read that Rich Dad, Poor Dad, I read that. But then it was up to me, am I going to apply it? And as I began diligently applying these systems and processes and people kept asking me to help them grow their companies, I, I've decided mentally every time I talk to a potential client, I visualize and I picture my father and I think what would I tell my father who at that My, my father at the age of 37 was delivering pizzas and working at Quick Trips. Every potential client who goes to thrivetimeshow.com and they schedule a free consultation with me. It might sound weird, it might sound woo woo, but I, I, in my mind I picture my father is on, is the person on the other end of the phone and I think to myself if I was talking to my father or if someone like my father who's trying to raise kids and he's working two jobs despite the degree, what does he need to hear? Maybe not what does he want to hear, but what does he need to hear? And my goal is to kick that person into another gear when we get off that phone call. And so that's what I do. And I think people say, man, Clay, you're filled with enthusiasm or you have that spirit. The word enthusiasm comes from the Greek word theos means God. So enthusiasm means God within. So I believe that I am filled with the holy spirit or a spirit of I want to help somebody become successful and A mentor of mine back in the day, he told me this, a true story, a big mentor, multimillionaire. I said, sir, what is your philosophy towards coaching? He said, clay, the word charisma used to be. Used to be spelled with a K. And I said, come again? He said, the Greek word for charisma, it's spelled with a K. It's called charisma. K, A, R, I, S, M, A. It means to lift up, to coach up, to mentor up. That's what charisma means. He said, however, today's version of charisma is now spelled with a church C, H, A, R, I, S, M A. And now it means a highly motivated individual yelling at you, talking down to you, making you feel un, will, un, adequate, inadequate, unable. And so you get coached down or talked down to. He said, your job is to leave people feeling whole and not to leave people feeling full of holes. And I said, what did you just say? He said, your job is to make people feel whole and not to leave feeling full of holes. And so I would just say, everybody watching today's show, if anybody does come to our conferences, Robert, probably 95% of our attendees are not from Oklahoma. And I've always let people name their price, and people say, you let people name their price? Yeah. So I tell people it's $250 or whatever price you want to pay. I've got nothing to upsell you. But when people see that you're actually trying to give them a hand up, not a handout, people respond and people gain that enthusiasm. And I believe that courage and enthusiasm is contagious. Robert.
Unknown
Well, I tell you what, Clay, can you tell people how they get in touch with what you just said is important? I think it's important people come and spend, you know, time to. To look at your work, what you have done. I mean, you're not just talking and to come and associate with your. I use the word congregation, but your followers, because they're on fire. And we're going into a very rough economic time, as you know this. Our debt's gone out of sight. That's why gold is making you rich and silver and bitcoin. But people need the fire. So how do people get in touch with Clay Clark? And what would they have to do to come and visit you and get a sense of what you're doing and carry that out into the world?
Clay Clark
Well, first off, Eric Trump asked me the first time I did this, he goes, are you actually giving out your cell phone number? This is my cell phone number. And anybody out there with a sound mind who is a sincere person, you can text me to request tickets to our events. That's 918-851. This is the same cell phone number my wife texts me on. The same one Eric Trump texts me on. That's my son. That's my Cell phone number. 918-851-0102. Or you can go to thrivetimeshow.com thrivetimeshow.com and you might say, why would you give out your cell phone number? I do it because I get to meet some of the most fantastic people ever. One of the world's best selling authors text me the other day and I said, is this you? And he goes, is it you? We had an NBA player who's currently playing in the playoffs texts me the other day and goes, dude, I love your podcast. Is this you? So it's a great way for me to connect. It sort of breaks the industrial complex and it freaks people out. But that's my Cell phone number. 918-851-0102. Or you can go to thrivetime show.com thrivetime show.com and if you want to listen to my podcast, I recommend you go to Spotify and do a search for the Thrive Time show on Spotify. That's the Thrive Time show on Spotify.
Unknown
T H R I V E Time Show. Thrive. Yes, sir. So I, you know, because what you have is the fire and you've, you've, you packaged it, you deliver it and you turn your people on. Like I said, you know, the hardest times of my life were just sitting on that aircraft carrier going, you know, the fear is intense. Flying into combat. And how do you overcome that fear, the paralysis, the, the sadness about it? We did a job that nobody really wanted to do. We got spit on him when we came home hit with eggs and, you know, called baby killers. But that actually built strength.
Clay Clark
Well, you know, sir, one thing I wanted to share with you, and again, with the limited time we have here, and I mean this sincerely, I am in awe of, I am inspired by the men and women who've served our country. You know, I get to focus on, you know, problems like how do I teach my kids how to become successful or how can I teach entrepreneurs? But none of that matters if you don't have freedom. And so on behalf of me and all the entrepreneurs out there that have frankly been living in this great country because of the sacrifices of you and anybody watching today's show who's ever served in the military, I Just want to say thank you so much for repeatedly putting your life in harm's way and for doing a job that nobody else wanted to do. And then I want to issue an apology to you on behalf of anybody that spit on you or said negative things about you in ignorance because you really did stand up and fight for our country. And it's just an honor to know you, to call your friend and thank you for the. The service. You and anybody else watching today's show who's ever served in our military, thank you so much, sir.
Unknown
Well, you know, thank you, Clark. Really, Clay. I mean, like, my good friend's name is Clark, so I call you Clark. Anyway, Clay, so thank you very much. And it's thrivetimeshow.com I want you on my program to let people know that you're for real out there and, you know, take the time to go visit your work, you know, worship and work. But when you see your house and the people and 5 o'clock in the morning, it's just. It's inspiring. Inspirato. So congratulations, Clay. You're doing a fantastic job. Tell your people out there I was so impressed with them because of their fire, their spirit. They're wanting to learn and to go and serve the world out there. So congratulations, Clay, for your great work out there.
Clay Clark
Thank you, brother. And again, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you as a highlight of my life having you come to Tulsa. Thank you, sir.
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Well, thank you. I'll be back, man. Thank you, thank you, thank you. So we come back with our final words from the Rich dad show. And I want to again thank Clay Clark. It's thrivetimeshow.com Please, if you had the time, go visit him in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It's worth the trip. Thank you. Clay, welcome back. Again, I want to thank Clay Clark, you know, and Thrivetime. And if you have a chance, please go visit him. Spend a week out there. Because the reason I like the cash flow game, it requires four intelligences to win the game. Mental, emotional, physical, spiritual. And I've had my lows. I mean, I've been so down. I was. I never. I didn't come close to committing suicide. But suicide would have been a great way out because I lost everything.
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I've lost everything twice. And so the thing that brings you back is your spirit, your soul. And so that's why I want to thank, you know, Clay Clark for what he's doing because he's putting people on fire. And I've had to fire people because they don't want to study, they just want the money. And the world's changing way too fast today to be stupid. It's just being stupid and being ignorant. Ignorant is when you ignore and you say oh well you know, things will be the same, you know, I'm gonna make it and that's our academic system. You know, like what a socialist is, is socialism works for people who don't work. So we're encouraging people not to work. People are going to college and getting deeply in financial debt, and they're coming out of school having no skills. They learn things like underwater basket weaving or something like that. Our education system has lost its soul. So that's why I speak. That's why the Rich dad radio show. And that's why I was so thrilled to go to Tulsa, Oklahoma to visit Clay Clark with Eric Trump, who is a fabulous, fabulous young man. His brother John Jr. Don Jr. And I are really good friends, and his father's doing a fabulous job with Elon Musk. And we're fighting for the soul of our country right now, because if we don't, the Marxists take over. The Marxists are an academic system. They believe in giving people money for free, defund the police, you know, making sex changes and that. They shut down usaid. And there was usaid, which is a government agency, was sending money to Hamas and Hezbollah. Hey, what has happened to this country? So let's fight back. I'm not favoring America, but I'm favoring. Let's have peace and prosperity throughout the world. And it's going to take all of us having strong minds, bodies and spirits. Thank you very much for watching Rich Dad Show.
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Rich Dad Radio Show: "Why STUDYING is the Secret to Real Freedom" – Detailed Summary
Podcast Information
Introduction
In this compelling episode of the Rich Dad Radio Show, host Robert Kiyosaki welcomes Clay Clark, a renowned entrepreneur and real estate expert, to discuss the pivotal role of studying in achieving real freedom. The conversation delves into how continuous learning and disciplined application of knowledge can transform individuals and businesses, especially in a rapidly changing economic landscape.
Clay Clark’s Journey and Inspiration
Clay Clark shares his profound admiration for Robert Kiyosaki’s teachings, attributing a sevenfold to eightfold increase in his net worth to Kiyosaki's influence. He emphasizes the importance of not just acquiring knowledge but "the application of knowledge" (07:57). Inspired by Napoleon Hill’s philosophy that "action is the real measure of intelligence," Clay integrates these principles into his business endeavors.
Clay Clark [03:09]: "It's not about knowledge. It's about the application of knowledge."
Starting his entrepreneurial journey at 15 with dj connection.com, Clay successfully scaled his business by offering consultancy services, eventually hosting large-scale conferences. His dedication to continuous learning and growth is evident in his establishment of a compound in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where hundreds gather each morning to study and strategize.
Building a Community of Learners
A significant portion of the discussion centers around Clay’s ability to cultivate a motivated and disciplined community. Starting sessions at 5:00 AM, Clay ensures that attendees are "bright haired, bushy tailed" and eager to absorb knowledge (05:51). This early start symbolizes the commitment and seriousness of his congregation.
Clay attributes the success of his community to a rigorous selection process, attracting individuals who are "real entrepreneurs" and "not afraid of giving someone a high five at five" (06:18). This approach filters out those seeking superficial gains, fostering a culture of genuine learning and growth.
Robert Kiyosaki [00:39]: "What turns you on so much? That's what I want to know."
Clay Clark [06:18]: "It just so, I don't know how they cannot do that."
Strategies for Success: Setting SMART Goals
Clay introduces the concept of SMART goals—Specific, Measurable, Actionable, Realistic, and Time-sensitive—as a foundational strategy for achieving success (18:26). He stresses the importance of visualizing desired outcomes and breaking them down into actionable steps.
Clay Clark [18:26]: "We have to set specific goals. They have to be measurable. They have to be actionable. They have to be realistic. And they have to be time-sensitive."
This structured approach empowers individuals to eliminate excuses and transform from victims into victors, a mindset crucial for navigating today’s volatile economy.
Incorporating Spirituality into Business Practices
Clay bridges the gap between spirituality and business by redefining "work" as "worship". He explains that in Hebrew, the term for work means worship, highlighting a deeper, spiritual motivation behind his entrepreneurial efforts (23:07).
Clay Clark [23:07]: "Work means worship and worship means work. So when I'm worshiping, I'm working as unto the Lord and not as unto human masters."
This perspective fosters a sense of purpose and dedication, driving both Clay and his community to excel beyond conventional expectations.
Overcoming Adversity Through Studying and Action
Clay recounts personal hardships, including watching his father struggle with multiple jobs and battling Lou Gehrig's disease. These experiences instilled in him a relentless drive to succeed and avoid a similar fate. By "diligently applying these systems and processes," Clay turned his early struggles into a thriving business empire.
Clay Clark [23:07]: "When I grew up poor, a lot of your listeners grew up poor... I decided mentally every time I talk to a potential client, I visualize and I picture my father."
This resilience and proactive approach serve as an inspiration for listeners facing their own challenges, emphasizing that continuous study and application can lead to substantial personal and financial freedom.
Fostering Emotional and Spiritual Engagement
Robert Kiyosaki highlights the importance of addressing not just the mind but also the body, spirit, and emotions. He acknowledges Clay's ability to ignite a passionate "spirit" within his followers, which is crucial for overcoming economic hardships and personal setbacks.
Robert Kiyosaki [21:54]: "You touch the spirit, Clark. You touch their spirits and their fire goes on them."
Clay explains that his method involves visualizing his goals and embodying a spirit of enthusiasm and courage, which he believes is contagious and essential for motivating others.
Clay Clark [23:07]: "I believe that courage and enthusiasm is contagious."
Success Stories and Real-World Applications
Throughout the episode, Clay shares numerous success stories from his conferences, illustrating the tangible impact of his teachings. Examples include:
These narratives serve as proof of concept, demonstrating that disciplined study and strategic action lead to significant business growth and personal success.
Clay Clark [03:09]: "When I read your books, I was also reading Napoleon Hill. That's why my son's name is Aubrey Napoleon Hill Clark."
Practical Steps to Engage with Clay Clark
For listeners inspired by Clay’s methods, he provides clear avenues to connect and engage:
Clay Clark [27:58]: "Anybody out there with a sound mind who is a sincere person, you can text me to request tickets to our events."
Final Thoughts and Call to Action
Robert Kiyosaki concludes the episode by emphasizing the urgent need for continuous learning and personal growth in the face of economic uncertainty. He encourages listeners to adopt Clay’s disciplined approach to studying and applying knowledge, asserting that "waiting makes you poor, taking action makes you rich."
Clay echoes this sentiment, highlighting the transformative power of integrating mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual intelligences to navigate and thrive in challenging times.
Robert Kiyosaki [31:31]: "The world's changing way too fast today to be stupid. It's just being stupid and being ignorant."
Key Takeaways
Conclusion
This episode of the Rich Dad Radio Show underscores the transformative power of disciplined study and the strategic application of knowledge. Through Clay Clark’s inspiring journey and proven methodologies, listeners are encouraged to embrace continuous learning, set clear goals, and foster a community of motivated individuals to achieve real freedom and success.