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Hey everybody, welcome back to another edition of the Enemies list. Q and a. You guys love it. So we do it with Q and A where we answer your questions about what's going on at the Lincoln Project in American politics and culture in, in, in, in this insanity that we all live in jointly and severally. So today I'm on the porch. It is kind of a beautiful, coolish for Florida standards morning. And so we're working out here today. Before we start, I, I probably have received since July 7,500 questions from people about Jeffrey Epstein, about the COVID up.
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That'S occurring right now in our government.
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About Jeffrey Epstein and the files and the client list and the data. So we have some clarity on what's going on here. There is a cover up now definitionally inside the Trump administration of the materials that they have related to Jeffrey Epstein. Donald Trump is one of the closest associates of Jeffrey Epstein for decades. One of his best friends self, admittedly from Epstein himself on an interview with Michael Wolf. Donald Trump was his best friend. There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of photographs of these men together. While most of them occurred in the pre social media saturation era, there are hundreds and hundreds of photographs of these men together. If you don't think that they were socializing and engaging in other activities together, you are out of your mind. But I think the most interesting part here is the gigantic chunk, the bolus of cognitive dissonance that's been required by the MAGA folks to accept and understand what's really happening here. It was an article of faith for a decade, from 2015 until July 7th of this year, in the voluminous federal and state prosecutorial records of Jeffrey Epstein's actual crimes. And there were many, and they were grotesque, of child trafficking, of human trafficking, of, of, of forcing women into prostitution, of sexual slavery, all these things. But there was this belief that there was this monstrous and horrible conspiracy where Jeffrey Epstein was the enabler of this global pedophile child sex slavery, cannibalism, a black magic and witchcraft ring centered on a pizza restaurant in D.C. now this was eagerly promoted by people like Jack Posobec, by people like Dan Bongino, by people like Cash Patel, by people like Alex Jones, by members of Congress like Anna Paulina Luna and Marjorie Taylor Greene, and many, many, many, many, many, many other significant figures in the MAGA scamplancer sphere. This, this belief that Epstein was the Rosetta Stone of evil, that they would open these files and it would destroy forever the Democratic Party. Now, the Trump administration were in a position over and over again to say the Epstein files, the Epstein files as a political weapon against Hillary Clinton, against Joe Biden, against many, many Democrats. Those folks are having a bad week because suddenly the administration is covering up the Epstein files. And there's no other word for it. Be very, very, very, very abundantly clear with one another. There is no other word for it. Pam Bondi just weeks ago said, I have the Epstein client list sitting on my desk. Now they're trying to redact history. Carolyn Levin's trying to retcon the whole thing. Oh, no, no. That was just the Epstein matter on her desk. She said the words client list. Does there exist a list of Jeffrey Epstein's, the men and women, I suppose, who Jeffrey Epstein allowed access to the trafficked women and the sexually enslaved women that he controlled? Yes. Now, it may not be a formal list of saying, you know, Ted Cruz was with, you know, Jane Doe number four and she rode him with a 14 inch dildo like a cheap mule. I'm not saying that Ted Cruz is ever an Epstein client. I'm just saying that kind of thing as an example. And now you'll never have that image out of your head. But Epstein would have had records of people who he partied with. There would have been emails to his staff like, hey, prepare the island this weekend because so and so is coming. So and so will sleep in bungalow number one or bungalow number four. Do I think it was a giant, carefully composed blackmail list? No. But the interactions that exist in this data with very powerful people, some of whom are probably almost certainly Democrats, some of whom are almost certainly Republicans, all of whom, like many men in power, enjoy a kind of belief in a. In a laissez faire approach to their sexuality. And it's grotesque.
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The whole.
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The whole thing is grotesque. But the fact that it's being covered up now is the real story here. The fact that it's being covered up is the real issue here, and it is being covered up. Dan Bongino and Kash Patel and Pam Bondi are the center of a conspiracy to hide the relevant materials in the Epstein case files from the American public. Despite the promises they made and the insistence of MAGA over the years that it must all come forth, it must all come out, it must all be revealed. I don't know if I've ever seen an issue that makes the Magaverse.
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Bond like this. We'll be right back. And now back to the show. I'm going to read you a tweet from a very MAGA account in a moment here. You're going to be absolutely. It was, it was, it blew me away in a way that I, I, I am, I'm still having trouble processing how, how much it turns the, the idea of, of these folks as, as the champions of the, of the, the downtrodden Children on its head. RB gambles MAGA account. Not a big one, but it got a lot of traffic because people were like, sharing it. He says, I love Trump. He's the best leader of our lifetime and maybe in history. But no one in MAGA thinks that he's not a pedophile slash into incest. It's not ideal, but it's a flaw we live with. And I doubt he still acts on it. No one is perfect, but Trump comes awfully close. Move on. I'm going to use a technical phrase we use in politics sometimes. What the fuck, bro? But you're starting to see this is the way that they're compensating. You're starting to see that this is the way they're trying to rationalize and rectify this in their heads and reconcile it in their heads. And you can't. You cannot. Donald Trump was a running buddy of Jeffrey Epstein. They partied together. And by partied, we mean fuck young girls. There is an inevitability that Trump's name came up over and over. The lie you were being told by the Trump administration. We all, we all know it's a lie. But maga, you are being told a lie. And Trump is telling you this lie because he's in the file. And I want to pose this question to our MAGA listeners because there are some you hate. Listen. I know, but that's okay. Let me ask you guys a question. What would your reaction be to any other president, Republican or Democrat, in the same situation? I will tell you what it would be. You would lose your absolute goddamn minds. You would, you would, you would go completely batshit, bonker palooza. Trump has a long and checkered and horrible record of with women. He has been adjudicated in court as being a sexual assaulter. Over 25 cases, credible cases, of women who have. Who have accused Trump of sexual assault. Not one, not two. It's actually 27, I believe is the. Is the hard number. And more who encountered Trump in these circumstances have either been NDA'd or intimidated. He is a man who has talked about having sex with his daughter repeatedly. It is one of the most repugnant and weird things. It never affected the brain of the magi because they have the ability to edit out his sins from their minds. It's weird, it's sick, it's fucked up, but they can do it. Up until now, they always thought there would be a moment where the case files would open and Hillary Clinton would be revealed to be the secret sorceress at the center of the conspiracy or Bill Clinton. There would be photographs of Bill Clinton drinking baby's blood or eating adrenochrome or whatever, whatever weird ass, like fucked up fantasies they have. What you've seen, though, is an interesting split. You've seen that Donald Trump's MAGA influencers can't wrap their heads around this. So you have Andrew Tate and Alex Jones and Tucker and Jack Posoba and all these people, okay, except for Charlie Kirk, who will. Who have Trump shits in his face. Charlie will say it tastes like an ice cream sundae. All these people freaking out, oh, no. The deep state got to Trump. Oh, no. What are we going to do now? Well, you know what you're going to do now? You're going to accept it. Because here's what MAGA does. Even when they have a little moment, a twitch of conscience somewhere, somehow they can put it out of its misery quickly. They know what they're doing in that regard. We'll be right back. And now back to the show. And I will say, I think that there's a really interesting moment we're in because no one, and I mean no one who, who looks at Trump's character and looks at Trump and knows who Trump is, doubts for a minute he's on those, he's in those contacts. Doubts for a minute that there are people in those case filings that knew things. There's one fascinating thing, one of the, one of the assertions that was made by the White House Cover up team and the DOJ Cover up team of Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino and Cash Patel. That Cover up team has said there's no evidence of blackmail. It's a fascinating construction, the way they put it. And, and they, you can read the legalese in their statements very carefully. Blackmail doesn't work like the movies, guys. It doesn't work like, aha, these photographs of you, a goat. It's more subtle in politics. It's much more elliptical and discreet. You're seeing the results of it right now. This is one of the few things Donald Trump fears is this revelation. I suspect there were some nights in Manhattan or Palm beach where Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein deliberately and constructively went out either using Epstein's slaves or using or finding other women and bullshitting them and abused young girls sexually. You know, I'm not saying it all included violence, but it could have those ideas that somehow Trump has never done these things. If you believe that, you need a real reset on your analysis and assessment of Donald Trump. It's fun watching the magas melt down over it though, isn't it? I literally have had so many people writing, messaging, calling and on Subset chat asking me about this. Because it is. It's a big pendant question, isn't it? I appreciate you joining us, as always. Do me a favor. Go over to Lincoln Square on subsec and subscribe. Take a free subscription if you can. Take a do a paid subscription if you, if you, if you have the means. We'd appreciate it. It helps us grow the channel and get this information out to everybody. You can also catch me on subsec at the Rick Wilson. You can also catch me on my YouTube channel with the same name. And folks, we will be back with you again on the next version of Q and A on the Enemies List.
Podcast: Rick Wilson's The Enemies List
Episode: Trump, Epstein & The MAGA Cover-Up
Date: July 14, 2025
Host: Rick Wilson (Black Pearl Studios)
In this episode, Rick Wilson confronts recent developments surrounding the ongoing Jeffrey Epstein files and the alleged Trump administration cover-up. Wilson analyzes the implications for American democracy, the MAGA movement’s reaction, and the wider culture of denial and selective outrage among Trump supporters. This critical Q&A installment dissects the tangled web of conspiracy theories, political bad faith, and deepening cognitive dissonance in the current political landscape.
"I love Trump. He's the best leader of our lifetime...But no one in MAGA thinks that he's not a pedophile/slash into incest. It's not ideal, but it's a flaw we live with. And I doubt he still acts on it. No one is perfect, but Trump comes awfully close. Move on."
– [RB Gambles, via Rick Wilson, 07:37]
"What the fuck, bro?" (08:08)
He argues MAGA influencers are "trying to rationalize and rectify this in their heads and reconcile it...and you can't" (08:12).
"He has been adjudicated in court as being a sexual assaulter...actually 27...credible cases of women who have accused Trump of sexual assault" (09:28).
"It's weird, it's sick, it's fucked up, but they can do it" (10:15).
"[MAGA influencers] can't wrap their heads around this.... Oh, no. The deep state got to Trump. Oh, no. What are we going to do now? Well, you know what you're going to do now? You're going to accept it. Because here's what MAGA does...they can put it out of its misery quickly." (11:25)
"There are people in those case filings that knew things...This is one of the few things Donald Trump fears, is this revelation" (13:15).
"If you believe that, you need a real reset on your analysis and assessment of Donald Trump." (14:07)
“What the fuck, bro?”
– Rick Wilson (08:08)
“Dan Bongino and Kash Patel and Pam Bondi are the center of a conspiracy to hide the relevant materials in the Epstein case files from the American public.”
– Rick Wilson (05:10)
“Donald Trump was his best friend. There are hundreds and hundreds...of photographs of these men together.”
– Rick Wilson (01:25)
“If any other president...were in the same situation...You would lose your absolute goddamn minds.”
– Rick Wilson (09:50)
“All of whom, like many men in power, enjoy a kind of belief in a laissez-faire approach to their sexuality. And it’s grotesque.”
– Rick Wilson (05:00)
“Blackmail doesn’t work like the movies, guys...It’s much more elliptical and discreet. You’re seeing the results of it right now.”
– Rick Wilson (12:40)
Wilson’s tone is acerbic, direct, and laced with disbelief at the level of denial and rationalization among Trump’s supporters. He is unsparing in his criticism, frequently using sharp language and dark humor to drive home his points about hypocrisy, danger to democracy, and the grotesque abuse of power.
In essence:
Rick Wilson spotlights the shifting MAGA narrative in the face of damning Epstein-related revelations, emphasizing willful denial and double standards. He demands accountability from both the Trump administration and MAGA’s public figures – warning of the grave threat posed to democratic norms by this culture of secrecy and rationalization.