Always Checking a Bag + Sharing Clothes

Summary

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Ride with Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Barone

Episode Title: Always Checking a Bag + Sharing Clothes
Date: November 19, 2025
Podcast Network: Dear Media

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Overview

In this freewheeling episode, hosts Benito Skinner (aka Benny Drama) and Mary Beth Barone bring their signature chaotic, witty banter to two lifestyle debates: the merits of always checking a bag when traveling and the beauty (and petty politics) of sharing clothes, especially among friends and family. Along the way, they riff on glam routines, personal style evolution, cultural moments, and the emotional dynamics that come with lending, borrowing, and packing clothes. With digressions into pop culture, friendship, and travel, this episode offers plenty of laughs but also manages to celebrate self-expression and communal living.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Embracing Unglamorous “Off-Days” (00:40–02:10)

• Benito and Mary Beth open by addressing how they “look like absolute dog shit” (00:40) after a day with no glam or makeup, underscoring their commitment to authenticity even as their lives become less relatable to their audience.
• Notable Quote:

  “It’s important to show that we are still real as we become less and less relatable in our day to day lives to our listeners.” – Mary Beth (02:46)

• They poke fun at the pressure to always look good, sometimes even managing their bathroom schedules based on podcast timetables (01:06).

2. Pop Culture Tangents, Nostalgia, and Film Talk (04:12–07:09)

• The hosts riff on micro-moments, like lash extension horror stories and comparing beauty services to scenes in films like “The Island,” “Don’t Worry Darling,” and “Stranger Things.”
• Discussion on the “yassification of Sadie Sink” as a meme-worthy phrase for child stars’ adulthood transitions (05:37–06:22).

  “Doesn’t it have such a nice, like, rhythm, the yassification of Sadie Sink? …I think it might be the most genius thing I’ve ever heard in my life.” – Benito (05:44–06:03)

• Tangents include admiration for Florence Pugh, the pressures of growing up under the public eye, and odd sleeping patterns post-travel (11:16–12:14).

3. GQ Man of the Year Awards & Travel Mishaps (08:45–09:40)

• Excitement at hosting the GQ Men of the Year Awards in London, with both jesting that they never have all the details about their own schedules.
• LAX travel mishap story: Mary Beth nearly gets into the wrong Uber due to similar cars/plates (09:40–10:06).
• They emphasize the philosophy of general “surrender” when traveling and working as public figures (09:26–09:40).

4. Sharing Clothes: Sisterhood, Etiquette, and Emotional Economics (23:34–33:02)

• Mary Beth shares her enduring love for borrowing and lending clothes – from family to friends to red carpet looks:

  “I love sharing clothes. I think not only does it create sisterhood...I have two older sisters and was constantly sneaking into their rooms and taking stuff.” (23:34)

• The politics of borrowing: always ask first, don’t borrow high-use or signature pieces before the owner wears it (26:03–26:23).
• Designer jeans lending among high school friends – the status symbol and complex logistical coordination of swapping (24:41–25:20).
• Powerful anecdotes of lending showstopper pieces to friends for their big moments, and overcoming the middle school-style jealousy of seeing someone else get compliments on your clothes (26:37–27:22).
• On the spiritual element: “I think we need to change the conversation around penises...Was the dick nice to you? Was it friendly? Did it create a safe space?” – Mary Beth (21:37–21:43)
• The existential (and often tongue-in-cheek) value of letting clothes circulate and live multiple lives via borrowing, RealReal resale, or as a sign of love as the “youngest child” (27:28–28:07).

5. The Dilemmas and Pleasures of Always Checking a Bag (37:50–44:41)

• Benito makes a case for "always checking a bag," arguing that living out of a carry-on is unrealistic for those who want options:

  “There is nothing I hate more than taking a skincare routine and putting it into some bullshit little bottle that it doesn’t belong in.” – Benito (39:10)

• Packing larger means you can shop on the trip; friends always want your extra space.
• The agony of baggage claim vs. the ecstasy of wardrobe choice; Mary Beth admits to being a “carry-on warrior” originally, but now concedes it’s not possible with a busy social and media schedule (43:06–43:25).
• Gate checking and its various joys and horrors (41:52–42:13).
• Shared wisdom: get rid of shame and stigma about checking bags, let people have their travel preferences (44:37–44:38).

6. Ride or Die Segment (45:36–end)

• The hosts debate: Mary Beth ultimately “dies for” always checking a bag (she dislikes it in principle but concedes it’s sometimes necessary), while Benito “rides for” sharing clothes but yearns to one day enjoy the benefit more as the lender than borrower (47:36–48:15).
• Both recall the family roots of their lending/borrowing ethos: stealing from moms and dads as an act of love (47:51–48:08).

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Noteworthy Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Highlight | |-----------|---------|------------------| | 00:40 | Benito | “We have boldly chosen to look like absolute dog shit today.” | | 02:46 | Mary Beth | “It’s important to show that we are still real as we become less and less relatable in our day to day lives to our listeners.” | | 05:44 | Benito | “I think it might be the most genius thing I’ve ever heard in my life. I’m not kidding.” (re: “yassification of Sadie Sink”) | | 21:37 | Mary Beth | “Was the dick nice to you? Was it friendly? Did it create a safe space?” | | 23:34 | Mary Beth | “I love sharing clothes. I think not only does it create sisterhood… I have two older sisters and I was constantly sneaking into their rooms and taking stuff.” | | 39:10 | Benito | “There is nothing I hate more than taking a skincare routine and putting it into some bullshit little bottle that it doesn’t belong in.” | | 44:37 | Mary Beth | “Get rid of the stigma, you know? So much hate. There’s so much...you’re checking a bag.” | | 47:36 | Benito | “We’re dating. You said it.” (running joke about the closeness of their relationship) | | 48:08 | Benito | “Yeah, nothing could matter less. It’s intimate to see. That’s 100% into me you see.” |

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Opening and Realness About Glam (00:40–02:46)
• Film and Pop Culture Tangents (04:12–07:09)
• Travel Mishaps and The Philosophy of Surrender (09:40–10:06, 09:26–09:40)
• Deep-Dive: Sharing Clothes (23:34–33:02)
• Checking a Bag: Pros, Cons, and Emotions (37:50–44:41)
• Ride or Die: The Final Stance (45:36–48:15)

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Tone & Style

Benito and Mary Beth keep the energy irreverent, playful, and occasionally absurd—mocking their own lifestyles as they gain fame, reminiscing about their “bimbo” days, then pivoting to heartfelt observations on friendship, fashion, and self-acceptance. The dialogue is raw but warm, fast-moving but packed with inside jokes and relatable moments about travel, style, and growing up.

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Episode Takeaways

• Sharing clothes is more than practicality—it’s about memory, emotional ties, and communal joy (with a side of etiquette).
• Always checking a bag can be liberation for those who crave options and indulge in fashion, especially as careers, events, and expectations escalate.
• Rejecting shame, embracing travel and wardrobe quirks, and supporting each other is the way forward, both on the road and in friendships.
• Pop culture, personal taste, and the desire to be seen—in clothes or experiences—are all part of being a “ride or die.”

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Summary by Ride with Benito Skinner & Mary Beth Barone Recap
Dear Media, November 2025

Transcript

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The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

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Hey, can you come pick me up?

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Yeah.

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What's wrong?

[B]

Nothing.

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Are you sure?

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Yeah, no, I just need a ride. Ride, ride. I just want to have fun.

[C]

Start your engine. Take care.

[A]

I'm Benito Skinner.

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I'm Mary Beth Barone and this is Rye Ride.

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I don't even know how to start today, honestly.

[A]

Well, we have to start.

[C]

Should we address our appearances?

[A]

Of course we have to, or else it'll consume us for the entire program. We have boldly chosen to look like absolute dog shit today. Shout out Sophie Pavitt. But I just got an A laser for my rosace.

[C]

Very dewy, I will say.

[A]

Well, thanks, sweetie, but it's red and blotchy. I'm about 20 minutes post lays, which I don't know if that was the.

[C]

Smartest choice, but look, we have to do stuff while we can. If it fits in the schedule, you just have to do it and deal with the repercussions later.

[A]

100%. I'm starting to schedule when I go to the bathroom just based on the show.

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And you have to for me right now. I've just had glam a few times. Glam privilege, kid.

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Glam yet. Wait, can I just say, we had glam done yesterday and I, like, didn't want to wash it off.

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I know. I felt really good about the glam.

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I looked in the mirror and I said, I like him.

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We went out to dinner because the glam was so good. We had no intention of going out to dinner.

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We would never not go to dinner if we've had glam done.

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We would never not go to dinner if we've had glam done. So we did do that. And I loved the glam and I loved what, you know, my hair was looking like and I'm just glad we got to experience that. But today we pay the price. Of course we pay the price. You know, the. We're back into the pumpkin.

[A]

Well, this would happen to me all the time on. On this set if ever compensated. I gotta shut up about this stupid fucking show.

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It's getting a little weird. Yeah, a little weird.

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I know people have said we. We wore makeup in the show, and.

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I'm not turning my head at all because of the blemish that I have on my face.

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I should be downturned the whole time.

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This is me doing the pod today.

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I do it literally. We go, oh, shist to McGuire.

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And I'm really sorry. I. I've definitely. I feel like there are some people that only listen and they don't watch. And I don't want them to feel like they're not getting the full experience. But I am sorry. I guess that's just my big apology for the day. And it won't be the last.

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No. But we're trying our best to describe everything. So I would say, Mary Beth, I don't think looks bad at all.

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I'm wearing the actress uniform. I have a tube top on. Sweatpants that say on the butt, make yourself hard to kill from Hollywood gifts from. Well, we're going to get into that with my ride.

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Can't wait.

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And then I have my New York Rangers hat on.

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Let's go Rangers.

[A]

I don't know if I'm actor. I'm kind of like, I don't know what I am, but I'm blotchy and I'm so much cuter than this. I can't believe we're doing this in our current era. No, I think having partners and we.

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Look like this, I think it's important.

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We'Re unpartnered and ugly.

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It's important to show that we are still real as we become less and less relatable in our day to day lives to our listeners.

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Yeah.

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As they go on to have kids.

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Stylist.

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We're in a writer's room, babe. We gotta show em. You have off days too. There's days when there's no glam.

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You are completely turned.

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There's no glam.

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She hasn't looked at me fucking once.

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Well. And I'm loving this new vibe, especially because the wall, when you look at it, is kind of dizzying.

[A]

Oh. The more you look at it, that's vertigo.

[C]

The more cross eyed you'd become.

[A]

Yeah. So good luck.

[C]

I have some stuff to talk about.

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Oh, well, the one thing I was gonna say about overcompensating was. Yeah.

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Oh, the one thing.

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Whoa. I just lost my mic.

[C]

Oh, awesome. I still hear you. You mean you lost your headphones?

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I lost my headphone.

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I'm not gonna let you get away with a mess up like that.

[A]

And you never would. But yeah, it would be like you're all glammed out all week. And then on the weekends I would see myself in the mirror after a week's worth of work and just be.

[C]

Like behind the barn.

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You gotta kill me.

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Well, that's what happened. You know, I had a. A lash extension era for like two years.

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I was there.

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I had no money, I had no rare aesthetic. Mary Beth Barone's lash extension era. I had no money. But I would do the lash extensions. They tape your eyes shut. This was my time to just Zen out because they tape your eyes shut.

[A]

That was me with my laser today. I'm. I see, I'm the opposite. I, I actually. No, that also sounds kind of painful. I like the heat of something on my. Like, I like a little pain. I think it feels nice.

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Well, but then when they all fall out, you're like, I guess I have to die. Yeah. And then one time I had a cough when I was getting them, so I had to sit up with my eyes tape shut. Like, oh, God. Well, they also have, like, 50 women in a room with their eyes taped shut. It's very. That movie. Oh, my God. What's it called with Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson where they're farming organs?

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I was about to say Don't Worry, Darling.

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Very bad.

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Yeah.

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What's that movie called where it's like surrogates?

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Do you remember in Don't Worry Darling when they were like, okay, let's make Harry Styles ugly. He has facial hair and he's.

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Well, there was a lot.

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And they give him acne or something, too Scarlet. I was thinking about that.

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Yeah, it's called the Island. Can I have a hot take here?

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For one second, I was completely enthralled with Don't Worry Darling and I think Florence Pugh. I could watch her in anything.

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Me too.

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So I had a great time.

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And it was stylized. Can I just say, stylizing a film and having interesting cinematography, it's going to go a long way for me.

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We're going to talk about eternity.

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The vision was there.

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Yeah.

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Needless to say.

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Needless to say.

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So, yeah. Lash extensions. I have a new challenge along the lines of kid Laroi is dating Tate McCray.

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What is it?

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Or should I say Tate McRae is dating the kid Laroi? And then to follow that, it's Tate McRae and the kid Laroi broke up the yassification of Sadie Sink. Do you get that?

[A]

Is that an article?

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No, I just came up with that this morning.

[A]

Oh. Oh. So we're like, we're in our creative flow.

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Oh, honey.

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We're in flow.

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Doesn't it have such a nice, like, rhythm, the acification of the Sadie Sink? I think if I was going to write a children's anthology or a children's.

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Wait, it just hit me. Sorry. It just hit me. I'm, like, completely sitting with it. I think it might be the most genius thing I've ever heard in my life. I'm not kidding.

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She Looks amazing.

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Can I just say, well, And I love her name.

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The Yassification of.

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Oh, you added more Yass.

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It's Yasmin.

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Yeah.

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You know, in Donnie Darko, when they're like, cellar Door is the most, like, satisfying mix of letters. Cellar Door, Yeah. For me, again, we're modernizing the Yassification of Sadie Saint Fuck.

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We're coming out with Birch, and we don't have that on it. I think she'd be totally fine. Her team would be happy with this, by the way.

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I'm praising. I think she looks. It's really hard, I think, for child actors to make that transition into adulthood. I've said this every day. I say this every day to you. I text you every single day. I say, it's very hard.

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It's very difficult.

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Very, very difficult.

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Well, Sabrina Carpenter.

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Sabrina Carpenter. The ossification of Sadie Sink. I saw her on the Stranger Things red carpet, and I just thought to myself, I just think she's doing really, really good work done.

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So I'm very embarrassed to say that I've never seen Stranger Things, but yesterday I said that to the writers room, and everyone was like, holy fuck, you have to watch it. So I guess, like, it'll just be one of those things I watched so late.

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I kept thinking it was gonna end. And then I was like, I'll catch up at that point, because I've watched two seasons same. But then it kept going. So I just need to wait for it all to be out and I can have some private time. Maybe over Christmas break or something.

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It's across 10 years.

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Sure.

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Whatever is, like, haunting. These kids is, like, addicted to that.

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No, it's not.

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But by the end, they're going, okay, Sadie.

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Okay, Sadie. We're going to leave that one alone. Jessica's girl, she's doing amazing.

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Good for her. I love that. Her certification of City Sink. I can only hope I think of something as brilliant as that soon. Well, you're.

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You're in the writers room. You have a lot of. You're thinking of a lot right now. And can I say a lot of what I'm hearing? It's as good as that or better.

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Thank you, sweetie.

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Hey, can I just say thank you? Don't. We're bleeping now. But that's my favorite line.

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I think it's my favorite line, too. You know what I'm having that's so fun?

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I don't tell me.

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Writing, flirting. I should do a master class on it. I think it's the most fun thing in the world. Because essentially, this is my big, you know, this. Hey, get your notepads out, kids.

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But pull over. If you're driving, then get the notepad out.

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Well, of course. But flirting is the most fun to write because it's like, what's the hottest thing in the world? Someone could respond to this, and then you just do that.

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It's like, I think about it, my.

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Toes curl, I start to sweat. I know, because I wrote something for a character to say to you, and I was just like, oh, my God, it's the Lady Gaga. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I've had a couple of drinks and, oh, my God. Oh, my God.

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But the thing is, it's like, it's also vulnerable to have someone read that. You know what I mean? Like, what you think is flirtatious.

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Yeah, but I mean, I'm killing.

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Well, totally. But it's just like, this is what my twisted mind would say if I could say anything.

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It's just like having, like, any kind of kindness and romanticism and then maybe, like, saying the person's name, like, once or twice.

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Dangerous legislation. We are, needless to say, hosting the GQ man of the Year Awards.

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Yes.

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They saw the work we did with Bestie of the Year.

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They saw that and said we have.

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To capitalize get them on the horn right now. Yeah. And so we're going to London. We're flying across the world to go give some awards out and, dare I.

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Say, be honored ourselves.

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You're looking at two Men of the Year.

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Yeah.

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Let's hear it for the man of the Year. So that's really cool. So I guess there's a live stream. We're learning about it at the same time. You are. So.

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Yeah, I mean, our teams know about all this stuff. We kind of, as I say to people, I just get in the car.

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Yeah.

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So people keep asking me. They go, where is that thing tonight? And I go, you think a little guy like me would know something I've.

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Never known less about where I'm going then? And it's surrender.

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I just put my hands up and I get in the car. And I guess this is kind of a warning to. To my friends and family. I'll get into any car and just take me away.

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Something crazy happened at lax, which was that I had an Uber coming, and there was a car that arrived. Same exact type of car, same two last two letters of the license plate. And so I was getting in it, and this guy came up and he was like, that's not your car. And I was like, okay, we're gonna figure this out.

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Imagine caring about shit like that. Okay, you know what I think about? Well, now it'll be the yassification of cdc. But is the. Could it matter any less?

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We're. Hey, hey, sir. We're gonna get through it.

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I see you.

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I see you.

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He'd get hard immediately. I see you. And he just goes, bazinga.

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Bazinga. Calm down. Why don't you go jerk off quickly and then come back, let off some steam?

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And I know it'll be quick because you just saw me. That's what you say.

[C]

How come everyone touched their bird after they see Mary Beth Brown flat chest at lax?

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Oh, my thing is, is, like, let people cancel things. Oh, my God. Could anything matter less? Like, who actually cares? I don't even care if you went through an effort to do it. Let people cancel. It's just not a big deal. Like, it's just never a big deal. It doesn't matter. I know it does.

[C]

There's enough.

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Come on, dude. I just, like, I need people to get over it. I know you want to see me, but you can't. Well, you will.

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Can I say one thing? You will.

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You will. When it matters.

[C]

It's just, like, not in this case. For whatever you're not available for.

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No, I have to write teens. I have to write.

[C]

Either we're taking pics of teens or we're not.

[A]

Positively Orwellian. I miss the Gossip Girl reboot.

[C]

Me too. I watched the whole thing with my niece and me and you. So I was sleeping.

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Yeah.

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One of my favorite things to do.

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I'm. It's my. I would love to do.

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You're not an alien it right now.

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Let's be honest.

[C]

You're not an alien it right now.

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I'm a D student. As far as sleep, it's so bad. And I can. I can feel it. I can feel it in the workouts.

[C]

I had just come back from la, so I was three hours behind. My body. Felt three hours behind my body.

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My body.

[C]

You like my body? So I had to wake up really early, and my alarm went off. And I was sleeping so deeply that when my alarm went off, it genuinely felt like that moment in Interstellar when they do the first handshake. I was being poked by something from another dimension. It's the Han Zimmer, literally. But it was like something with my brain and. And the way the alarm sounded, it literally felt like a creature from another dimension had broken through.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And was Shaking.

[A]

You feel that in your soul?

[C]

It was so crazy. And I've never been able to put it into words before, but as you could see with the ossification of Sadie Sink, I'm on fire right now.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[C]

So that's what it really felt like. I felt a tingle because I was like, there's more to all this.

[A]

Of course there is.

[C]

Have you ever been woken up by an alarm and you just think to yourself, there's more to all this?

[A]

Didn't Albert Einstein, who lived in the.

[C]

1990S, say that he was around when Full House was on?

[A]

Oh, my God, he loved Full House. He was such Mary Kate.

[C]

No, totally. We'll just bring up the Olsen twins as much as possible this season.

[A]

Good.

[C]

Hey, you guys.

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Mary Beth here. We're back in the Titan submersible and I'm doing ads.

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We are. Actually.

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I'm in the middle of a fitting, if you can even believe that, for the GQ man of the Year awards. Everyone want to say their names.

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Hi, I'm Keisha. I'm in Kitchen Chloe, too.

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All the girls are here to help me look snatched tonight. And by the time you hear this ad, it will have already happened. So hopefully you've gone and liked all the photos on every account. But that's actually not even what I'm.

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Here to talk about.

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What if you could bleach and color.

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I could use that.

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We would never not do an ad for K18.

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We've said it once, we've said it.

[B]

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[C]

There right now and get what is left of my tour tickets. Cuz yes, I use the bands in.

[B]

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[C]

Benny's sleeping by the way.

[B]

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[C]

What else can I tell you?

[B]

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[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Go to squarespace.com for a free trial and when you're Ready to launch squarespace.com ride to save 10 off your first purchase of a website or domain. Do you hear those hangers clacking?

[C]

Yeah, I'm about to try on some close. This season has been years long seasons.

[A]

Seasons is what it's feeling like. 525,600 minutes. How to measure a season of a ride. How about love in coffees? I don't know all the words in breakups in coffees. It's hell. Tell me that's not it. In breakups, in Dunkin ads. In I'm.

[C]

So we have more Dunkin ads coming.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And like I had to send some pretty fiery texts this morning.

[B]

We're not gonna get into it.

[A]

She sent some hard truths. She said I need to know when and I need to know how and I need to know why she's When I. Duncan, partner, we love you. Oh, we love you, Duncan. Like totally. As I have a full nothing.

[C]

You have a full nothing.

[A]

So there wasn't a Duncan nearby. We'll probably have to cut all that.

[C]

I'm not cutting that. And we're not cutting us talking about cutting. I've really been enjoying us keeping when we talk about cutting stuff. It's Just like, we have some stuff to hide. But not much, no.

[A]

I mean, you've taken everything from us.

[C]

We are. It's all we know.

[A]

The applause, our hearts on the floor. Speaking of heart on the floor. Oh, yeah. Lux, I. So I have to talk about albums as they happen now, because anything could happen. Lux is the best thing I've ever heard in my life. I was so ill prepared, and I get in an Uber and I'm driving across the Williamsburg Bridge, listening to the.

[C]

First two tracks at night.

[A]

You know what I thought, going off my ride last week. Can I just say, going into museum, listening to Lux.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, fine. I' ma stay through the album.

[C]

Sometimes I just.

[A]

Shocked right now.

[C]

I just think, like, there's some music boys shouldn't get to listen to.

[A]

I agree. Except homosexuals.

[C]

Well, that's not.

[A]

I know. I know.

[C]

You didn't know what I meant.

[A]

Yeah, I know, but people twist your words.

[C]

Oh, they do.

[A]

But it's just like, in my head, it's like you're in a museum in Madrid and, like, a guy's drawing you. I guess.

[C]

And can I say one thing? Listening to Rosalia, my apartment becomes the museum. I'm looking at my stuff in a totally different way. And I just have to think to myself, there's got to be more to look at.

[A]

My body, the contortions of my body in a different way.

[C]

Yeah. It's making me want to learn Spanish.

[A]

It's making me want to go to Madrid. Let's go. Come on, now. And San Sebastian. The motherland.

[C]

I love a shout out to the District of Columbia.

[A]

Yeah. Dc. Dc. They deserved it.

[C]

Things can happen there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Nothing good recently, but we know Rosalia went there, at least when I was in college.

[A]

And it was Obama, as I said, Obama. Pitch perfect and frozen. We used to have culture.

[C]

I wasn't. I wasn't a Democrat at that time. I couldn't even enjoy it.

[A]

I had a fling with a guy in college who was a Romney. Romney guy. Found that out late.

[C]

Rami, though, now, looking back to my core, actually, I'd with him at this point.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

What I would pay. What I would give.

[A]

100%. It used to be like, you know, Ugh. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, definitely a lot of evil happening, but, yeah.

[A]

Nancy Reagan, like, how's the fiery pits of hell? Like, do you like the taste of the fiery flames of hell?

[C]

Don't tell me.

[A]

Yeah. Is it hot down there? No one touch their birds when they meet Nancy Reagan.

[C]

No.

[A]

I think I did write down one thing. To say to you.

[C]

You wrote down. Can we skip to the good part?

[A]

Oh, well, someone brought that up. And they're like, that was such an era. And like, it couldn't be more this season. Also with Rosalia on the song. Is it. I don't want to butcher the pronunciation.

[C]

Don't you dare. Relic reliquia. I don't know.

[A]

I'm sure that I'm saying someone goes, travel privilege.

[C]

No.

[A]

And I was dying. I was like, that's incredible.

[C]

The last thing I'll say before we get into what we ride for. I forgot being single. When you hook up with people, everyone's first question, dick size.

[A]

Oh, yeah. What do I say?

[C]

You say, was the dick friendly? Did it make you feel safe? Better questions.

[A]

Is that not a perfect question?

[C]

If you ask me the size, I'm just never going to tell you. You want to know how big someone's dick is? Why don't you go hook up with them? I had to earn that information. Exactly. And that information is a privilege.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I'm never going to tell you.

[A]

I'm more interested in, like, did you have the best time?

[C]

I know.

[A]

Was the dick nice to you? Was it friendly? Was it.

[C]

Did it create a safe space?

[A]

Did it create a safe space?

[C]

Because the other thing people do, which I hate, they say, how big was the dick? I say, I'm not going to tell you. They go, oh, so it was small. Nothing I can say.

[A]

I never say that.

[C]

Nothing I can say back to that. Because if I say no, then I'm answering their question. So what I say is just like, I'm not telling you. I'm not telling you. And I say, you know what I say? I say, the dick was perfect.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because it's not about the size.

[A]

As many dicks are.

[C]

As many dicks are. And it's not about the size. It's about who it's attached to.

[A]

Completely agree.

[C]

I think it's a good thing. I think we need to change the conversation around penises.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Let's get into what we ride for.

[A]

And dear media, so if you don't clip that, it's starting to happen while.

[C]

I have a blemish. While I have a blemish.

[A]

And while I've looked uglier than I ever have in my entire life. But, yeah, I would ask your friends, is it friendly?

[C]

I just watched you do something. That really itchy face is red. Want to feel old? This is the Puffs plus girl.

[A]

This is the Puffs plus girl.

[C]

And she's crass.

[A]

The yassification of Sadie Puff plus girl. Yeah. Wait, you are the ossification of the plus plus girl. I will be writing for Always checking a bag. This might be the first die from you. And I'm excited because it will actually make the format of this podcast make any lick of sense.

[C]

Yeah, well, I'm in a ride for sharing clothes.

[A]

Any lick of sense. Who cares?

[C]

No, a lick of sense is totally a phrase.

[A]

No, I know, but I just. No one's ever used it like I just did.

[C]

I. Okay. And guess what?

[A]

Any lick of sense.

[C]

Do you. Do you know that we're constantly revolutionizing the form of this podcast?

[A]

Of course.

[C]

And that includes language sounds, not words. Has been huge this year, so.

[A]

Well, it's been huge for. I mean, it's probably been, like, detrimental to the snitch community.

[C]

Well into just boyfriends everywhere.

[A]

Mrs. McClar, I think you met. That could never be me. I don't give a fuck.

[C]

That was me. Sometimes it was more my sister Pam, but. Okay.

[B]

Wait, where are we going?

[A]

Who cares? Ride. You go first, sweetie.

[C]

So here's what I want to say about today. I'm wearing pants given to me by Benny Drama. I'm wearing a jean jacket given to me by Benny Drama. I love sharing clothes. I think not only is it creates sisterhood, one of the best lines from overcompensating. They're your sisters. Why don't you buy a pair of pants and send them around? Yeah, you're starting to piss me off. Or whatever that you're pissing me off. You're pissing me off. I just think the practice of sharing clothes can be so powerful. I have two older sisters and I was constantly sneaking into their rooms and taking stuff. And in fact, today at your birthday party, there's a collection of dresses I have kept from my sister's over the years. I actually had both of their prom dresses tailored so I could wear them on red carpets or events in the future. And they're so classy. My sisters have amazing taste. Even though they didn't care about brands, they had amazing taste.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm wearing a dress that was purchased from the Stanford Mall at BB tonight for your birthday.

[A]

And I. And I'm wearing Abercrombie in the early aughts. Yeah.

[C]

And I'm so excited. And so my friends and I in high school, I mean, I've been sharing clothes forever, but my friends and I in high school, we were obsessed with designer jeans. Citizens of humanity seven for all mankind.

[B]

Can I say something?

[A]

Rockin Republic. Rockin Republic.

[C]

I got them.

[B]

True religion, honey.

[A]

True religion. Seven jeans.

[C]

What you can do when you have a group of 10 girls who all have a lust for designer jeans, the amount of designer jeans you have access to increases tenfold. We would bring the jeans in, we would plan our outfits. We go, I want to wear the eight pockets on Thursday. Seven jeans had these different types of pockets, of course, status symbol. So I would be like, okay, Lauren, can I borrow your A pockets on Thursday? I'm gonna wear it with this top. And then she would bring it in in a little shopping bag. I would carry it around with me for the day, and it's like, boom, I have a whole new pair of jeans. And obviously there are certain items. I think it's really important when you're sharing clothes to ask first.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You shouldn't just take. Because it's a privilege, not a right. I just love seeing my clothes, like, shine on someone else. What's unfortunate is that you can't really borrow my clothes, but I have had a long, long life of borrowing yours.

[A]

My archive. I mean, come on down. I actually, there's nothing I love more than someone going, pink shirt. Oh, it's so cute. Wait, I. I was supposed to give that to you. I brought it. It's coming to New York. It's in a box. I recently just went through all my clothes, said hi to all my friends, my girls, my guys. Like, I just love them. My non binaries, everybody. Like, you can just feel it. There's nothing more I love than when someone goes and puts on my clothes. I'm like, hell, yeah. It's very in her shoes. I'm like, give these the life they deserve.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I'm like, I can't wear all this all the time. There's a few things that I agree with that are a little tricky. Like, if it's something I wear, like, very consistently, I am like, that might smell andor like, I don't know if you necessarily want to put that on. And then there's one tiny rule where it's like, if it's a really good piece, I feel like you can't wear it first.

[C]

I was literally just.

[A]

That's my only rule.

[C]

Two sides of the same coin.

[A]

And you know what my thing is? If it looks really good on them, keep it.

[C]

Yeah. And that's like, no.

[A]

But I'm just like, I don't just. It's so fun to. To see the clothes on my muses. Yeah.

[C]

I bought this orange Vivian Westwood dress for a lesbian wedding that I went to this summer, Kira and Ilana.

[A]

I love that dress.

[C]

The dress is just so explosive. So my friend Rachel had to go to a wedding, and she was like, can I wear that? And I said, of course, but prepare to get more compliments than you've ever gotten in your entire life. She texted me in the middle of this wedding, and she goes, 10 people have stopped me. And including people that weren't even at the wedding, like, they were walking to the reception, stopped her and said, that dress is amazing. Tell me everything she says to Vivian. And what could bring me more joy than, like, my. Cuz I can't wear them all at once. God knows I can't wear them all at once.

[A]

Do you remember how brutal it was, though, in, like, middle school where you would loan something to a friend and then they got compliments the entire night? Some shit like that would have sent me into psychosis. But now I'm like, that's right, baby.

[C]

Now it's okay.

[A]

And I go, I know where you got that.

[C]

Mm.

[A]

Yeah. For those of us with a shopping addiction, it's so fun to. To watch it start to feel like it's doing some good.

[C]

Absolutely. And, I mean, I've been selling a lot through the RealReal lately, and that's just the ultimate way to give your clothes new life. Cause it's like, if I'm not wearing it anymore, then I want it to. I want it to be seen. Be seen, you know?

[A]

I wonder if you feel this. I can always tell when I see something at the RealReal if it was bought by someone who's a Nepo baby. I can, like, feel it on it.

[C]

I love that. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Like, I just kind of know if it's like, if the piece was bought by someone who earned all of the money. Right. Or came into great wealth. It was something very.

[C]

That's beautiful.

[A]

Isn't that really?

[C]

That's your third eye?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Unfortunately, my third eye is I am a little bit psychic. Yours is that you can tell if clothes on the Real Real were a little bit psychic.

[A]

I see everything. I saw your entire future when I saw your set the first night we met. I'm not.

[C]

I know. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that.

[A]

What's. Okay, so what's your favorite piece of yours? Yes.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

That I put on you.

[C]

Well, it's hard to say.

[A]

I really love you in that letterman's jacket. I think it's so cute.

[C]

I wore that this morning to get my coffee.

[A]

You didn't.

[C]

The Valentino you didn't. I did.

[A]

I love that jacket.

[C]

I loved this dress I wore. Or it's a shirt, actually. So what's cool is when you date someone.

[A]

Oh, so you're trying to go public. Oh, oh, oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh, oh. So these habits when you. You're not friend zoning me when you're.

[B]

Best friends with someone.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no.

[B]

The body of a lying doctor.

[A]

Don't let this go, baby. Freudian neutralized attraction. Neutralized attraction. Oh, my God. Now when someone goes, are you dating someone?

[C]

I can go, yes.

[A]

Well, yes, when you're best friends with.

[B]

Someone with the body of a linebacker.

[C]

His shirts thus become dresses.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[C]

So I wore this dress to a Marshalla store opening. Do you remember the carry?

[A]

The J.W. anderson Carrie Collection.

[C]

So good. No, I literally have DMU platforms.

[A]

You see, I just saw my entire Closet coming out. J.W. anderson carry collection.

[C]

I loved that. And I thought it was unexpected space.

[A]

Like, I love you in that.

[C]

Yeah, I know. So much of your stuff.

[A]

I hadn't worn it yet, but.

[C]

But it was your idea for me to wear it.

[A]

Of course. No, no, no.

[C]

I would never ever do that.

[A]

I know, but it was actually, you know, like, I'm breaking every roof for you.

[C]

I can't hit those. Whoa.

[A]

Well, the producer just left because he was like, I gotta.

[C]

He said, I need to take a lap real quick.

[A]

He said, whoa.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

He's like, you're not signed.

[C]

That just hit me.

[A]

You're not signed. Right?

[C]

You're not signed. So I think sharing clothes can be really beautiful. Obviously you have those friends that don't take care of the clothes. They decimate the clothes and you have to set a boundary.

[A]

You almost clean them too much. I'm like, I don't like the starchiness.

[C]

No, I know. But I have to take care of them.

[A]

I know. Oh. You know what's tricky? The hardest thing, I think to share is shoes. Just because of smell and wear. And I don't know, that one's a little tricky for me also. It's funny, it's like in being in gay relationships, everyone was always like, do you share clothes so much? Oddly, no. I don't know why, but I'm, you know, open to it. But.

[C]

But you guys have different style.

[A]

Yeah, that can be. Yeah, that's. That can be a thing.

[C]

Nothing better than shopping. Benny Drama's closet.

[A]

But you know what's so fun is that sometimes though, you kind of know when it's not like you know, if I get something and it's actually not quite me, I'm like, oh, I got this. This is for someone else.

[C]

Yeah. And sometimes that someone else, huge mistake.

[A]

It's Mary Beth Barone. I got this for Mary Beth. Sometimes when there's a rumbling. Is that a subway?

[C]

I don't know. I think it's Bane. He's down there. He's setting some shit up.

[A]

Problem.

[C]

There's gonna be a sinkhole here later.

[A]

Yeah, there's gonna be a reckoning. I do think a reckoning is coming, by the way. For sure.

[C]

Oh, it's happening right now.

[A]

You and your friends better batten down the hatches.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

When Anne said that to him, and she's like. When she leans in and does that whisper. Well, it's Ann. Yeah, Ann.

[C]

No one's ever called her Anne.

[A]

Well, it's Annie. She leans in and goes, you and your friends bear pants. And wonder why you could live so good in the. Than the leaf sell out for the rest of us.

[C]

You know, she credits Christopher Nolan for saving her career.

[A]

I know.

[C]

And his Interstellar.

[A]

And I just think she's brilliant. And her performance in Interstellar and as Catwoman, when she backflips out of that window, incredible. Nothing more.

[C]

I'd like to do my friend Carrie, who I stay with in la. She's kind of a legend. Amazing closet to shop. Wow. And I always ask first because it's polite.

[A]

Well, you should always ask.

[C]

I think some roommate situations, they're not asking, and that's a huge problem.

[A]

I agree. The one thing that drives me crazy sometimes, though, is if someone just goes in and then puts on, like, a really good sweatshirt or something or like a really good piece for like, just chilling or, like, farting around and it's like, okay, well, you kind of picked the best thing we got here.

[C]

That's insane.

[A]

You got to chill.

[C]

That's just not okay.

[A]

It's just so not. Actually, I've cared about anything like that. I really haven't. You could, like, destroy something and there's only a few pieces that I'd be like, oh, that makes me sad for a couple minutes.

[C]

One time I let my friend borrow a J. Crew sweater, and I was like, just don't put it in the dryer. It was wool. I shopped a lot of J. Crew in high school, and I loved it. And unfortunately, her mom washed it, put it in the dryer. It did shrink and became unwearable. And it was a really good lesson for me to just go, that's okay. It's a sweater. It's okay. It's not going to affect our friendship.

[A]

Yeah. You don't talk to her anymore?

[C]

Well, no. Yeah, we haven't spoken in years, but.

[A]

Yeah, since she ruined your fucking sweater.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[C]

Cuz that's unforgivable. Yeah, it's good for my control issues. It's exposure therapy. Just be like this person's going to wear this thing and it's going to be okay.

[A]

I wonder if mine is actually just tied to me being like take everything.

[C]

Love me, probably that.

[B]

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[C]

Third Love.

[B]

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[C]

I mean my gosh, you just go.

[B]

On there, throw a couple bras in.

[C]

The cart, do a little try on situation right now.

[B]

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[C]

Bye. Excuse me.

[B]

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[A]

I get into what I ride for?

[C]

I would love if you did.

[A]

I'm going to ride for always checking a bag.

[C]

I'm white knuckling this whole ride.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Let's get into it.

[A]

I can't wait for you to die for this. What did I die for? Text threads.

[C]

Text threads and group. No, it was group chats and something else. You've died for two things. I don't remember what the second one was.

[A]

Well, we had a hater one, right? Didn't we die for?

[C]

It wasn't died for.

[A]

Died for Teslas.

[C]

You died for something else.

[A]

Oh, and oh, your big stickers that say I hate the CEO are really doing a lot of work. You guys. Hey. Love the car. Hey, CEO.

[C]

It's like he's on his way to being the first trillionaire. For what it's worth. Jesus.

[A]

I loved Billie Eilish saying that was billionaire.

[C]

Why that isn't that. You just gave me a little.

[A]

Isn't that incredible? Did she say why?

[C]

She said you guys need to give away your money.

[A]

Yeah, it's incredible. I ride for always checking a bag. So here we go. So this is gonna ruffle so many feathers, but I just kind of always do. So there's nothing I'm sitting back I hate more after I just talked about hey, after I just talked about the archive that you left. Get your sticky fingers in. I love to be on a trip and have options. I like to have options of tops, pantalones, shoes. I like multiple workout things. I can't just bring one. There's not a washer, dryer. And I'm not trying to smell Like. Like if someone thinks I smell, I.

[C]

Have to kill yourself.

[A]

So here's my thing. I know that this is inconvenient, and I know sometimes it's. It's not cost effective. It's always been worth it to me. There is nothing that I hate more than taking a skincare routine and putting it into some bullshit little bottle that it doesn't belong in. It just. And it knows it doesn't belong in there and it's disappointed. It wastes so much of the product. I just. I hate it and I hate putting it in those little bags also. I'm saying if it's a weekend, I'm probably not, but I. I probably are checking in a big way. I just have these big old Patagonia bags and I'm just like, throw it in. And I find that if people shop on the trip, they come to me and they go, after giving me so much shit for checking the bag and apparently adding so much time to the trip, they go, can I use some of the bag space? And every time I come to them with the warmest love, heart open.

[C]

And you say, there is no backspace.

[A]

And I say, it's fucking full, bitch. Yeah, No, I have done that, but I am like, yeah, isn't it nice to have a little room, have a little leeway to shop the streets, shop local, think global. And oh, my God, I just. Oh, and you can bring a red light mask if you want. You can bring all your, like, supplements.

[C]

Your AG1, your neutral one, your neutrophil. My thing is, so as I've said before on this podcast, I'm always on the move.

[A]

And for me, you said that so many times.

[C]

I have, yeah. For me, stopping at baggage claim, waiting at the carousel, it has been a good opportunity for me to connect with Baronies because I love to meet them there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There is no time in my day, week, month, year when I am more antsy than when I'm waiting at that baggage claim. Now, having become someone that has to attend events by choice, shoe privilege. So you have to pack the shoes that go with the outfit. I can't just wear sambas every day because I have outfits that have been curated and put together. So the biggest thing for me lately is just accepting, surrendering to this idea that I'm going to check a bag because I want all the shoes that I need at my disposal. It's actually, it's a need, it's not a want. And to say that, yes, it's much easier to pack my lotions and Things like that. It makes me sick. I think it's taking years off my life waiting at baggage claim. So for me, I understand the benefits of always checking a bag. I'm trying so, so hard to just shove stuff in there in this carry on. And also, I have to just say that traveling with Pinky, my carry on has become a space for my laptop. The dog food treats.

[A]

Exactly. You don't have room. Oh, God. Picturing my girl in the middle of the aisle, 15 guys behind her, all who want to hit her, and she has to lug it up and put it up in that thing and it doesn't fucking fit. And they go, ma', am, you have to check that.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, gate checking. Gate checking. Gate. Here's the thing. Gate checking when they're gonna bring the B right to the plane and they. They put it in that little hallway area. That's one thing.

[A]

That's.

[C]

That's got one of God's greatest gifts. Gate checking when they're going to bring it to the carousel. Well, now you've pissed me off.

[A]

Well, you've been punished.

[C]

What did I do?

[A]

Yeah, it's like, oh, I could have just. I could have brought the biggest bag possible. And now it's like. It's just. It's. That to me is. You could have just been with Benny Drama and filled your bags up and. Oh, God. Okay. I had literally, like, I. I felt the endorphins in my body. When you pack for a summer trip, you can fit so many more clothes, so many garments. You don't have to put sweaters and coats.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Oh, my God. And the shoes. I like a kind of thicker, chunkier shoe in the winter, of course. So. Oh, my God. I had to pack for a couple weeks in New York before I move into my place. And I don't have that many clothes, and it was hard, but I did two huge bags. But. Oh, my God. Packing the summer, everything. Everything goes. 50 tank tops.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You can find the amount of crop tops I'm bringing is just astounding.

[A]

Yeah, a thousand. It was really annoying to my friends when we were traveling abroad when I was in college, but, you know, but they love.

[C]

Oh, so this has been a lifelong practice, but they.

[A]

Of course, sweetie. I think I am who I am. My family even knows. They're like, always add 20 minutes for Benny.

[C]

Benny to get his bag. My mom is a carry on warrior. So I was just always taught that, like, and I knew that. Keep it moving and just try to really pare down your Stuff. Unfortunately, now with the lifestyle that I'm living, it's really not possible anymore.

[A]

It's not possible, sweetie. You need options. And I also, you know, I have to bring options for the people around me, of course.

[C]

You know, because you're sharing clothes quite often.

[A]

Of course.

[C]

I guess the thing is, like, with age, I've come to accept it, but I would never always do it.

[A]

I know. And I don't know. It's just one of those things that I'm like, fudge, yeah, who cares? And it's actually been good for me as far as patience. Like, I am just like, no, it's worth it to me. And I'm fine to wait, like, an extra 20 minutes. Sometimes it's really annoying.

[C]

Sometimes the waiting is.

[A]

I travel enough that usually I have, like, a priority tag. So it. It does come out pretty early.

[C]

Sometimes that tag means nothing.

[A]

Sometimes that tag means everything.

[C]

Right?

[A]

And when it comes down, it's a little bit like what I assume. It's like when you get home to Pinky. Oh.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

And it's the first bag when my red Patagonia falls. I'm like, well, there's my princess.

[C]

Yeah. No, it feels really good.

[A]

It's just so cool that she made the trip with me. And I'm like, how is she?

[C]

Must have been so scared under the plane.

[A]

No, I bet it was cold under there. But, yeah, it was. Oh, God. And I think about just all the. All the things I've been able to bring, all the looks and stuff. It's just. It's been a total travel privilege in every way. So anyone who's doing it. What I'm also telling you is get rid of the shame. I. I know what it's like to.

[C]

Have people get rid of the stigma, you know?

[A]

So much hate. There's so much.

[C]

You're checking a bag.

[A]

So much gay hate at it.

[C]

Picture this, everyone.

[A]

And they go, oh, he's got to check the bag. It's like, we're here a week. What are you guys going to be wearing on day five? This I got to know.

[C]

For me, it's like, I'm bringing 100 pairs of underwear.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[C]

Taking up space.

[A]

Every single pair of underwear I own. They're coming. They got to see. They got to see.

[C]

They got to see this.

[A]

They got to see. Austin.

[C]

Oh. A piece. A piece that I've kept from a sharing clothes experience. I do have a pair of Calvin Klein boxer briefs that just are perfect. And I wear them. Sometimes they stick up out of the pants. Sometimes they're a bedtime thing. But that's just a. It's a piece that I. And you know what? I think sometimes with sharing clothes, if you don't know the person that well, you do need to give it back. And I'm sorry to go back to my ride here 100%. Some of that stuff, like, I need back.

[A]

Yeah. You don't know me like that yet.

[C]

I hope to get there one day.

[A]

And, hey, I'm not writing it off. But come on. Hey, come on now. Should we get into Ride or Die?

[C]

Let's get into Ride or Die.

[A]

You know what? You are Mary Beth.

[B]

Bisexual.

[A]

Well, yeah, but you're also my ride or die. Ride or Die. Did I get a die? Probably.

[C]

It's so hard because, like, obviously, obviously, I understand it, and I feel like I. And you benefit from it. Communicated that, and I benefit from it. For me, I have to die for always checking it back, because I do think there are some instances where it's not worth it. Now, as I grow, as my wardrobe expands, as the shoe options need to be more and more specific, because people are taking pictures of me at an event and putting their little face over it and commenting on what I'm wearing. I mean, the shoe game has to be on, like, okay, okay, okay, here's a story. Yeah. You took me to the Boas Afraid premiere.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And I was able to go to Wasteland and get a Molly Goddard gingham dress that was sheer, which was fabulous. Now, all I had for shoes on that trip to wear out were white cowboy boots. Was it the shoe I wanted to wear? Absolutely not. Was it the shoe I had to wear or I couldn't go to the event. Yes. So I knew it was a mission, and then it ended up on one of those accounts that was, like, at what they're wearing or whatever. I don't. I don't remember. The account was called. And someone just goes, I don't get the white cowboy boot thing. And I was just like, can I be honest? Neither do I.

[A]

No, I.

[C]

And I didn't. I wouldn't have chosen it.

[A]

No.

[C]

And so actually, too, what I'm finding is that I'm just responding. So Nikki Bell did talk about our CFDA looks, and he said, you're not doing yourself any favors when you're wearing satin. I commented. I said, I started every interview apologizing for the fabric.

[A]

Yeah. You said, nikki, hear me out.

[C]

Nikki, hear me out.

[A]

Hear me out, sweetie.

[C]

And I don't mind. I don't mind the critique. Yeah, I think I don't either with it.

[A]

I think he said, my jacket needs 2 minutes, 2 inches up.

[C]

I thought that it was the pants, but that wouldn't have made sense. No, but anyway, pants were perfect. I have suffered at the hands of not checking a bag.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And it's my own fault. It's. It's self. It's self. Something. I don't know, but I will die for it. Because I think for me, once I land off that flight, I just. I got to get out of the airport. I have to.

[A]

No worries. Hey, fuck you.

[C]

Can we still be friends?

[A]

No worries. Of course. Oh, sweetie. We're dating. You said it.

[C]

That was crazy that that happened.

[A]

We have it on camera. That's the least crazy thing that's happened. I. I ride for sharing clothes. Although I never. I could potentially die for it because I never. I ride for being the one.

[C]

You never get to benefit from it.

[A]

I'm never.

[C]

Hey, maybe one day and. And I do want to shout out my mom. I've been stealing clothes from her since I was born.

[A]

Yeah, I steal a lot of. Like, lately I've been stealing ties for my dad and looking at some of his stuff. Maybe it's like the youngest child in me, but I'm like, yeah, take whatever you want. Like, I just don't care. Do you love me?

[C]

Do you love me or not?

[A]

Yeah. Nothing could matter less. It's intimate to see that it is into me. You see, in 100%, in every way. It's like, just take it.

[C]

Just take it. I can't wear it. I'm wearing something else.

[A]

I've completely picked a different outfit today. And, yeah, I'll let you borrow some of my clothes on a trip. I love letting people pull from my mini little archive on a trip because I have all kinds of categories and all kinds of stories.

[C]

What's really cool about your clothes is when they're in a pile on the floor, you know exactly what's in there and you know where it is.

[A]

Of course. I know everything.

[C]

You know the location of every piece.

[A]

It's organized chaos and you gotta just surrender to it.

[C]

Live and let die.

[B]

The justification of Sadie Sink.

[A]

Oh, my. Exit.

[C]

Benny, babe, eyes on the road. Then you go. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.