Getting a Massage + Medicine

Summary

Ride with Benito Skinner & Mary Beth Barone

Episode: "Getting a Massage + Medicine"
Date: October 1, 2025
Podcast Network: Dear Media

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Main Theme & Overview

In this episode of Ride, besties Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Barone reunite in London to muse about two things they’re “riding for” this week: the art of getting a massage and the power of medicine. Amidst playful banter in the “Great British Library,” they share personal anecdotes about health, touch on privilege, and oscillate between irreverent humor and surprisingly practical advice for navigating modern wellness—always with their signature wit.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life Updates, Library Vibes, and Running Bits

[00:28 – 05:37]

• Setting: The duo is recording in what they playfully call the “Great British Library,” riffing on bookish energy and “Beauty and the Beast” references.
• Vogue’s 73 Questions: Benito shares an anecdote about meeting the real “73 Questions” interviewer during a commercial shoot (02:06–02:37).
  • Quote: "He is Mr. 73 questions." — Benito (02:30)
• Podcast as a Job: Mary Beth jokes about treating the podcast professionally, balancing fun with a sense of duty (06:32–06:44).
• Social Media Games: They discuss the petty pleasure of blocking people on social media, “just to make them think” (04:25–06:12).
  • Quote: "I just want you to know, like, just in one moment, I had a flash of just pure, raw anger towards you, and I just let her rip." — Benito (05:58)

2. Mini Rides, Friendship & Petty Dramas

[16:23 – 18:38]

• Friends and Exes: Mary Beth’s “mini ride” is about staying unbothered when friends hook up with exes, calling it “a fascinating move” (16:23–16:52).
• Petty Justice: The duo talk about decimating people (in-person confrontations or blocking online) as cathartic, with the reference to Elizabeth Hurley’s character in "Gossip Girl" as inspiration (17:36–18:17).

3. What They're Riding For: Massage

[18:47 – 31:54]

• Massage Privilege & Accessibility: Acknowledgement that massages can be a luxury, but there are budget-friendly options, especially in places like Thailand (19:00–19:25).
• Favorite Massage Types:
  • Thai massage (“Truly so unbelievable...I love when someone walk[s]”—Benito, 19:25)
  • Swedish and sports massage for athletic relief; lymphatic and dry brushing, too (22:11–22:49).
• Personal Anecdotes:
  • Benito shares an alarming story about an inappropriate massage experience, stressing the importance of researching massage parlors before booking (26:03–28:03).
    • Quote: “All of a sudden the guy just goes and slaps my ass. … So I assume he got what he—” (27:04–27:19)
• Public Massages: They joke about the humiliation and thrill of getting a massage chair treatment in the middle of an airport (29:59–30:16).
• Tipping & Boundaries: Emphasis on setting boundaries (“Speak up, b*tch challenge” 24:28–24:29), advocating for adequate tipping for massage professionals (31:27–31:41).

4. What They're Riding For: Medicine

[31:54 – 43:43]

• Faith in Medicine: Mary Beth “rides for” medicine, both Western and Eastern, prioritizing whatever actually works (32:31–32:39).
  • Quote: "How cool is science?" — Mary Beth (33:11)
• Nostalgic Medical Memories: Both reminisce about childhood experiences with antibiotics, doctor visits, and fear of shots (33:45–34:41).
• Public Health Soapbox:
  • Mary Beth laments declining vaccination rates and anti-science sentiment in the States, especially in Florida (34:41–35:35).
    • Quote: “I’m waiting for Republicans to be like we're outlawing seat belts. It's like how many people do you want to die because of your policies?” — Mary Beth (35:19)
• Healthcare Privilege: The hosts reflect on the reality that many Americans lack access to quality healthcare, calling it “deeply detestable” (38:38–38:46).
• Advice: “Please just, like, go in for your checkups if you are able.” (41:05)
• Lighthearted Detour: Discussion about quirky doctors and whether banter in those settings helps or hurts (40:31–41:02).
• Gratitude: Both acknowledge current health, access to care, and the importance of medical professionals.
  • Quote: “I ride for medicine. Of course, I think medicine is incredible. Medicine can heal. Medicine can help.” — Benito (42:53)

5. Closing – Gifts, Compliments, and the Importance of Treating Yourself

[42:18 – 43:43]

• Massage as a Gift: Mary Beth calls massages “such a good gift...for your friend who’s going through it” (42:24–42:27).
• Dating & Massage: Comparing the hit-or-miss experience of finding a good massage therapist to dating (42:42–42:51).
• Affirmations: The hosts share compliments and end on mutual appreciation (42:51–42:53).
• Benito jokes about being able to write prescriptions soon: “Let’s just say that. Drama MD, my love.” (43:32)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you gave me a button that said, you can't be gay anymore or die, I would choose die. Actually, I'd be straight for two weeks, then come back and get the other button...”
  — Benito (08:54)
• “In many ways, I think for you, massage acts as a form of medicine.”
  — Mary Beth (31:57)
• “Who did it? You? I don't remember because I was driving. So probably Me, because, you know, I'm all about safety on the road.”
  — Mary Beth (17:19–17:25)
• “The disparity is going to get bigger, too...people are gonna have to travel further to get care.”
  — Mary Beth (38:46–39:25)

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Timestamps for Main Segments

• 00:28 – Banter & “Great British Library” setting
• 02:06 – Vogue’s YouTube/73 Questions anecdote
• 04:25 – Blocking random people just to make them think
• 16:23 – Mini Ride: Friends and exes
• 18:47 – What They’re Riding For: Massage
• 26:03 – Benito’s inappropriate massage anecdote
• 31:54 – What They’re Riding For: Medicine
• 34:41 – America’s anti-vaxxers and public health discussion
• 42:24 – Massages as gifts; hit-or-miss nature of finding good practitioners
• 43:32 – Joking about MD credentials

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Tone & Style

• Playful, irreverent, and confessional
• Frequent use of inside jokes, pop culture references, and friendly teasing
• Moments of genuine vulnerability, especially around issues of privilege, health, and boundaries
• Occasional detours into the absurd (“I would say life is a highway, I guess.”)

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Final Takeaways

• Massage and medicine aren’t just self-care to these hosts—they’re entry points to larger conversations about health privilege, boundaries, and the importance of treating yourself (and your friends) well.
• The episode blends wellness advice, personal storytelling, and social commentary with a warmth and mischief that makes even “serious” topics accessible and entertaining.
• Listeners are left feeling seen, reminded to care for their bodies, trust science, and—always—block when the vibes are off.

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If you missed the episode, this summary gives you all the wit, wisdom, and wild tangents you could ride for.

Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

[B]

Hey, can you come pick me up? Yeah.

[A]

What's wrong?

[B]

Nothing.

[A]

Are you sure?

[B]

Yeah. No, I just need a ride. Ride, ride. I just want to have fun. Start your engines. Take care.

[A]

I'm Benito Skinner.

[B]

I'm Mary Beth Barone and this is Rye Ride. Welcome to Great Britain's biggest library.

[A]

So anything can happen. Even Gatsby can happen. Do you get that?

[B]

Yeah, I do.

[A]

Wait, I'm loving. Can I take shoes off?

[B]

Oh, wait, I'm gonna break the fourth wall.

[A]

The Great British Library. This is our Great British Library episode.

[B]

This is our Great British Library. Our great big British Library episode. And I'm not wearing shoes or socks. And that's my prerogative because it's my podcast.

[A]

I will say that if we ever one day get to build our own studio, I'm doing it brick by brick. Exactly like this fucking place. Recreation, like down to the books.

[B]

What's the song in the library? In Beauty and the Beast tale as old as time. Is that really in the library?

[A]

True as it can be. Barely even friends fwens.

[B]

Yeah, that's not in my register. So you're on your own.

[A]

You're on your own. It's not. Wait, think about that.

[B]

Okay, first things first. What you were talking about when I interrupted you was Vogue's YouTube channel. Oh.

[A]

Wow. It just. And here's the thing. Stick with us, we'll get to it.

[B]

And I'm always, no, don't eat juice. No, you ate a cracker sandwich. You ate that sandwich, girl. It's giving sandwich.

[A]

Come on, Sandwich.

[B]

That sandwich was a whole ass vibe.

[A]

Oh, for real?

[B]

For real.

[A]

Oh, my God, I felt like such a fool today. And the whole time I kept thinking, well, that was a whole ass vibe.

[B]

So what do you love about Vogue's YouTube channel?

[A]

Well, I just think it has so many great little videos. And I love the makeup ones. I love the 73 questions. It's been a while, but can I tell you something crazy? And again, this is industry. I'm not like, I'm. This is just our job sometimes. I was making a commercial, I think, with like meta a while ago, and then the guy shooting it, I just kept thinking, his voice is freaking me out. Why have I heard this voice before?

[B]

He is Mr. 73 questions.

[A]

And at the end he finally went, I am the guy who does 73 questions. And I was like, I lead with that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I spent the past hour in my head, like, I didn't hear a thing you said because I was thinking Yeah, I love when they do, you know, my favorite thing in the 73 questions. The format of it is when they'll ask one and then the. I'm throwing up this. Joe and the Juice.

[B]

Can you stop?

[A]

Damn, this cracker sandwich is hitting well.

[B]

It's so pointy. Well, it's literally crackers decimating my.

[A]

My insights. Joe and the Juice has not reached out for comment.

[B]

No. Dead silent.

[A]

Nothing.

[B]

Well, the DM that I got that said your silence is defining. Because they spelled deafening wrong. Your silence is defining.

[A]

Well, think about that.

[B]

And I did.

[A]

And say that in the Library Congress. Wait, I didn't say the thing I.

[B]

Love when and hey, we'll wait. I'm about to move on.

[A]

No, I know. I got a rip.

[B]

I only have so much.

[A]

You have an agenda. We got to do this quick or she'll leave. There's an electric guitar across from me. I'm telling you. You got it, kid. But where they do the kind of thing where it's like they answer one thing, something, and then the next one they'll do the same answer. So, you know, they'll be like, what's your favorite color? And then it's like, what's a color you'd never wear? Green. And you know, they do it twice.

[B]

That's a really bad example. But yeah, that doesn't make any sense. London bridge is falling down.

[A]

Falling down.

[B]

It would be more like. What's your favorite fruit? Orange. What's your favorite color? Orange.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

That's kind of the difference between us.

[A]

What's your favorite drink?

[B]

Orange.

[A]

Wait, I want to do it and enter orange. For everything.

[B]

For everything.

[A]

But I'm back in London, so I'll have material for at least a month, maybe two.

[B]

Right.

[A]

We're only here for a couple days, though. But we had to see this because I. I was so sad the second I left last time. I thought I didn't see any podcast studios, so it's good to be here. Here.

[B]

That's cuz I wasn't with you.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Let's talk about blocking random people just to make them think.

[A]

Yeah. So here's my thing. Lately, I run hot. I mean, I know people are going to be like, Scorpio season. Or they're not.

[B]

Wait, I love saying that. Just like, I know, blank, but. Or not.

[A]

Or not.

[B]

So we're kind of covering all of our bases.

[A]

It's kind of been my whole thing lately. I put myself out there and then I keep just getting like, completely shit wrecked. Like, I'll just be like, oh, yeah, babe, it's so bad. And so I'll do it. And then I'm like. Or I could just, like, never speak to you again.

[B]

Or anyone, for that matter.

[A]

I'm so sorry. I even, like, came, like, I. Oh, my God. I had this happen, and I'm not gonna say who, but it was a. An actor that I really loved, and I went up to them and I'm like, oh, I'm just such a fan. You're an icon. And they puffed so much vape.

[B]

I don't even remember who this was in my head.

[A]

I'll tell you later. Not in the library.

[B]

And it's not appropriate.

[A]

I just thought, damn, I'm never going to do that ever again. I felt, baby, yeah. Like, it was very ribbit. I was very rabbit.

[B]

You only want to do ribbit on purpose, intentionally. If something's unintentionally ribbit, it's like.

[A]

And we could leave it at that.

[B]

And so that's what we have to say this week.

[A]

That's kind of that on that.

[B]

But blocking random people just to make them think.

[A]

But, yeah, I think what's so cool about it, it's like, if someone has done something and I like, not even telling the person that they've done it, just block. Because it's like, I want them to.

[B]

Go, wait, wait, wait. What happens?

[A]

He blocked me.

[B]

But it's fun to do it for people that didn't really do anything.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just to say, like, hey, I'm just curious.

[A]

Like, I just want you to know, like, just in one moment, I had a flash of just pure, raw anger towards you, and I just let her rip. And you know what? And you'll never see me again.

[B]

No. Probably never. I walk out of the Great British Library.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Britain's biggest library.

[A]

Oh, my God. I can picture Belle walking in here.

[B]

I know all these books. Yeah.

[A]

Beast was like, you're kind of annoying, though.

[B]

We get it. You read books.

[A]

I feel like I'm being a new era. I have all these things.

[B]

Well, because we have a lot of, like, we haven't recorded in, like, two weeks. So I feel like we just have a lot in here, and I want to get through half of them in this episode and half of them in the next one.

[A]

Great.

[B]

So I'm just trying to get through these.

[A]

Treat it like.

[B]

Just like, sort of like a job. Yeah, well, it's a job.

[A]

I do think a lot of podcasts.

[B]

So I treat this like a job.

[A]

Oh, you're having fun.

[B]

No, no, no, not me. This Is a job.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I have a new era.

[A]

The camera. I don't care.

[B]

I have a new era.

[A]

What is it, sweetie?

[B]

After someone says something completely random, you just say, I knew you were going to say that.

[A]

You told this to me. And I thought, because why this is so you is because it's. I can't think of anything that would make the person more uncomfortable.

[B]

Yeah, well, I was at this. I did this music video that I. I won't tell anymore about because I'm not sure if it's out yet because I keep forgetting. Well, I keep asking what day it's going to come out and it's different. So I don't want to, like, say anything about it. But basically, the guy that was doing my hair, Brian, he was like, oh, this is a fig tree. Like, I can tell. It's like, whatever, whatever. And I just went, I think you're gonna say that. And he goes, really? You knew I was gonna go uncle on it and talk about this tree. And I just said, yeah.

[A]

My dad. It reminds me of this game my dad used to have that, like, as a kid, I was just like, eye roll. But now I'm kind of like, that.

[B]

Is kind of dads way too.

[A]

Totally. And I'm like, do this bit. Like, you can tour it. It's funny. Where he'll be driving somewhere and if it's not like a place we live. So for instance, we were in Baltimore, where my aunt lives, and we were driving somewhere. And to my grandma, my dad was like, I'll know exactly where I am if I see the A W sign. And it's like, it's. He's. I just saw it.

[B]

Oh, amazing.

[A]

And my grandma's like, holy. Like, there it is. It's really. It is. Because every. I. I've never seen somebody get the joke. Like every time they're like, oh, my God, right there.

[B]

Like, okay, so he is literally a running bit.

[A]

And then my dad goes, I fucking made a fool you. And that's it. You're so stupid.

[B]

Yeah, he uses the C word a lot.

[A]

Yeah, we bleep all.

[B]

I did notice. I did notice that the first few times I met him. Just a lot of C words.

[A]

Is that terrible that I just said it?

[B]

No, we'll bleep it if we want. I don't think Pete Buttigieg is the answer to all of our problems. I'll say that. I really don't fuck with him. He said on a. In a debate or at a town hall that if he could press a button to not be gay. He would. And so I was just like, that's not a man that stands on business. That's not a man that stands on, like, his own ethics and morals. That's not a man. If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

[A]

You know what's crazy? If you gave me a button that said, you can't be gay anymore or die, I would choose die.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Actually, I'd be straight for two weeks, then come back and get the other button. I would just be curious to see, like, what happens in my career.

[B]

Probably a lot of good.

[A]

Well, then I stick around and you're. But then I gotta go.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Goodbye.

[B]

Yeah, I just don't, like. Like a lot of people really ride for him. And I just. I don't see it personally and say that.

[A]

And I'm glad you did.

[B]

Yeah, I don't see it.

[A]

Did I put anything in there? I think I had a couple little things I wanted to just.

[B]

You said you needed to talk about something unbelievables again.

[A]

So something unbelievables for those joining in. I. I think it was something. It was one of the first times where I really just let her rip on here. I want to show you something. Something unbelievable.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I see him everywhere, and I feel him. And he's also a part of me in a lot of ways. But one of the things that's unbelievable is that he showed the girl is this place. But somebody goes, what is the origin of it? And again, it's just kind of like you're in Europe and a guy comes up and he's wearing kind of like an interesting polo with, like, all kinds of patches and flair on it.

[B]

Armani jeans.

[A]

Armani exchanged my love.

[B]

That's what I meant. The exchange was implied, of course.

[A]

Drop the exchange.

[B]

It's cleaner.

[A]

So he comes up and he shows you this, and he might kill you later. He just goes, I want to show you soft something.

[B]

He has the same accent.

[A]

Sebastian is his name.

[B]

He has the same accent as Costas in Sister of the Tribe, which we've talked about before. Because the line delivery of. Is it or is it something else? Because he's not Greek. He doesn't actually have a Greek accent. The actor might be Greek. I'm not sure. I haven't looked into his lineage.

[A]

I looked him up recently because he was a gay awakening for me.

[B]

Or is it something else?

[A]

Something else.

[B]

And I know he was like, can we not use that take? And they were like.

[A]

They go, sorry, it's kind of like the.

[B]

They Said so we actually. We didn't pull focus on the last one, so unfortunately we're gonna have to use that one.

[A]

I will say every now and then you see a batshit take and like, I had a couple in the show and it's just kind of like it. Keep it. Like to think that everyone always responds in a thing that's totally in line with them or normal. Like. I don't know. I think sometimes it doesn't.

[B]

It's not realistic. It's not Shakespeare land.

[A]

No, literally.

[B]

I just have always wanted to record the POD in front of an. What is it?

[A]

Well, books. Books are.

[B]

What even is it. What do I call that? An addition?

[A]

Oh, first edition in front of a. Well, the first edition of, you know, Of Mice and Men. Like, I had to be here for that.

[B]

Totally. Steinbeck.

[A]

Oh, I loved Steinbeck, so. I knew you'd say that.

[B]

Lacey. I. I knew you were gonna say that. Lacey Barone and a twinkish straight guy named Bonito. Jenny Han. There's easier ways to say listen to ride honey into media Clip that Lacey Barone. We. I don't claim her. Just so you know. She's not one of my cousins. I don't have any cousins with that name.

[A]

Okay. I haven't shown, but I'm gonna tap in.

[B]

It's definitely a journey. And I'm. I would say, like, I'm glad it's over in the sense. Well, they're doing a movie, which I will be fucking sad for, but I know you will. I just wanted the anguish for these characters to end. And I think it has in a really beautiful way. And I think she went with the guy that I think she should be with. So I'm thrilled for her. And I just think, you know, there were definitely some moments where I didn't agree with the characters, and that's okay. And I'm sure people felt that about overcompensating.

[A]

I think that's great. She's really incredible, Jenny Han. She like. I mean, it's full pandemonium. And she did it with. To all the boys I've rimmed.

[B]

It's really the first season of Summer Agency.

[A]

I've rimmed before.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That was that. That big joke that hit you the first time. So I'm gonna go. Let's just focus on it and say it one more time.

[B]

Well, the rule of thirds, of course.

[A]

One more later. So here's the thing. But, yeah, I think she's incredible. I mean, also, that must be so gratifying in the end to get to like do the end. Like, I've been thinking about that a lot of like getting to tell a story and getting to wrap it up. Like we really are out here. Just completely raw. Like overcompensating really ended raw.

[B]

It's raw.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we're excited to see you. Remember when we shot that.

[A]

You were so good that day. And I do want to say to anyone who. I'm so excited. The overcompensating score and soundtrack is now available, I think everywhere. It should be Amazon Music, Apple and Spotify. I was just listening. Walking around London. I did cry. So I would say this soundtrack, it could send you to the loony bin if you're not really just making sure you check in with yourself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It is so unbelievable. That was the chair. Now I have to do repetition to prove. There you go.

[B]

So cracking me up today.

[A]

I know. Alex Summers. George Daniel. George Daniel. Charlie xcx, Amber Bain. Wow.

[B]

Fabulous.

[A]

I just want to say thank you. And that took a long time because, you know, we had to get all our ducks in a row. But they took so much pride in their work. It's so go listen. It's just like do your homework to it. You know, I was thinking it's a lot like Teenage Dream. You can fuck to it, you can cry to it, you can dance to.

[B]

It, you can work out to it.

[A]

You can die to it. Yeah, work out to it. Yeah, definitely. There's some hits, but it's like the best score I've ever heard.

[B]

I can't wait to blast it in our hotel room later.

[A]

Oh my God. The. Are we friends?

[B]

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[A]

Yeah, what's your mini rides?

[B]

I'm mini riding for people who are my friends fucking my exes. Like, I'm not mad about it. I just think it's a fascinating move is all. I'll say. I don't think there's like ownership over people. Right. And if you've never met me and you fuck one of my exes, like, obviously that's fair game. I mean, I still might be weird to you at an event, but that's my prerogative. And what did I say at the beginning of the season? My opinions aren't always correct. They're nothing more than opinions. But I think to be my friend and do it is just utterly fascinating.

[A]

Yeah. And that's one where I'm like, I don't know. You must not have gone to a Catholic school because the only thing I was given is like deep guilt.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's crazy. But yeah, I mean, that was an immediate block for me. I think I know what you're talking about.

[B]

Yeah. It's just weird.

[A]

It can be so simple. That's what I say to people. I found out that someone said something bad about Mary Beth at an event and I just.

[B]

In court.

[A]

It was in court and I said, take. I go take my phone. Do it.

[B]

Unfollow.

[A]

Who did it? You? I don't remember because I was driving.

[B]

So probably Me, because, you know, I'm all about safety on the road.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Yeah. It's fun. It's interesting, I guess, just, like, people making choices that I wouldn't necessarily do, but whatever.

[A]

Life is a highway, I guess.

[B]

The thing is, like, at some point, if I go full, like, demon bitch mode, like, a lot of people are going to be really sad because I'm fucking decimate. I had to decimate someone this week.

[A]

Who'd you get permission from?

[B]

I got permission from you to go in person and decimate someone.

[A]

Getting to write in all caps. Decimate. You know, I'm.

[B]

Destroy it.

[A]

Destroy it. The second I walked in here, I literally saw the books. I go.

[B]

And that's, of course, Elizabeth Hurley in Gossip Girl.

[A]

Elizabeth Hurley in Gossip Girl. Summer. Kind of wonderful. She takes Nate Archibald into a bedroom that later turns out to be hers in her mansion, and she asked a high schooler to fuck her raw in it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So.

[B]

So, yeah, I'm gonna. I don't know. It's like, I. I might decimate some people soon. Like, I got the taste for it. I don't do it much, but when I do it, like, you're gonna remember, and you're gonna rue the day that dear remembers. You're gonna rue the day. I mean, the plant did. And I wasn't as evolved as I am now, so. Yeah.

[A]

So we're so happy to have you guys here today.

[B]

So thank you so much for joining us here at Ride.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I guess what I'm riding for this week is you're gonna ride for.

[A]

I'm riding for the art of massage.

[B]

And I'm gonna ride for medicine.

[A]

Oh. Some would say.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Very intertwined.

[B]

Do you mind if I go first?

[A]

Would that be okay?

[B]

I'll allow it. This once.

[A]

Just this once.

[B]

Wait, where are we going?

[A]

Who cares? Ride. So massage. And this is obviously coming from massage.

[B]

Privilege at this point. It's health privilege, travel privilege. I had to post about denim privilege the other day.

[A]

It's many privilege.

[B]

Now we have massage privilege. But I want to say this as well. There are places you can go where massages are extremely inexpensive. And sometimes those are the best massages.

[A]

Dying to get one. In Thailand, there's a few of these YouTube channels where these guys do it on the street, and it's, like, unbelievable. Like, I think Thai massage is my favorite type of massage. It's like. It's truly so unbelievable. I love when someone walk.

[B]

You've taken me there a little under the date night.

[A]

My new thing, too, I guess if I died for something. It would be gatekeeping. Because I just think, like, how much time do we have left?

[B]

We don't know.

[A]

Let's hit. Let's hit the ground running. So.

[B]

So I guess I should say everyone that my exes.

[A]

Yeah, well, save.

[B]

Because we don't have that much time left.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. That'll be the series finale.

[B]

Series finale.

[A]

Well, the series finale of Ride will just be like kind of audio clips, like we're reading names for something.

[B]

Well, here's what I'm dying for. I want someone to do a tar edit of the podcast like they do in the movie, where they cut everything together to make it sound like she's being so, so up. Like, edit us to be saying, like, I don't think women should have rights.

[A]

That was my one thing in that movie where I'm like, I don't. I don't think students would believe. Like, that to me, was my one thing where I was like, wait.

[B]

Students might not, but the average, like, person who is online might. I mean, the media literacy is.

[A]

That's what scares me.

[B]

I don't like it, but I think it'd be funny to have an edit of the podcast. Oh, that makes us look crazy.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sure that'll. I don't know how much editing they'll need.

[B]

No. But to make it look like we're saying bad stuff, women shouldn't be in the workplace, that sort of thing.

[A]

They'd find that easy. I'm sure we can give that to. Well, you just gave it to them clean, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. There's this place in LA called, I believe it's Thai Massage on Hillhurst. They are so fabulous. Like, everyone is just so skilled and talented. And you can go in, you can get 30, you can get 60, you can get 90. If I get 90, they're like, every time they go, you're going to enjoy your sleep tonight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because they know. One time, though, I got a massage and I will say, I like. I like deep. I like. Let's take it there. I don't want to be tickled. I want to be rocked. You don't understand. I want to be.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

And so. So I go and I went to Thai Thai Massage on Hillhurst. And after the woman looked at me and she was like, should you be driving home? And I just. I literally. I saw what I looked like in my car. I looked like a hoe. It was so. I look like I had been ran through. Yeah. My hair was full Jimmy Neutron. My face was so I mean, because it's just, it is so good for you. It's good for serotonin I.

[B]

Circulation.

[A]

If any of this isn't true, I don't care. Also serotonin, endorphins, circulation. I take an Epsom salt bath after, like, as someone who I. I got a really bad back when I was in high school because during track, because, like carrying this ass across the finish line, you know, not everyone can do it. Not everybody can do it.

[B]

Not everyone's capable.

[A]

Thank you. There's also Swedish massage. Swedish massage.

[B]

That's a tough one. Swedish massage.

[A]

So difficult.

[B]

Swedish massage.

[A]

But which I also just like, I, it's divine. It's divine intervention and I love it so much. But yeah, I think I'm. I'm Thai tie first. And I love like an athletic sports massage. I obviously, I do like to train quite a bit, so. But it's this bad low back from track and I just need someone to get into these hips, lock in with their elbow and just rock my world.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And oh my God, I love, I love a dry brush too. I love lymphatic massage.

[B]

I haven't done one of those yet.

[A]

I had one of those earlier. You are, I mean, it's. Your body is tea.

[B]

Yeah, it's like.

[A]

What do you want me to say?

[B]

I go to the now massage sometimes.

[A]

Now is great.

[B]

In la. Massage place in New York that I went to and. Well, there's a place on West 4th street that's famous. There's a woman who does massage there named May. And if you look them up, like every single review is just saying how like May changed their lives on Google reviews.

[A]

How have I not been?

[B]

I don't know. It's. She's like so wonderful. Mae, I believe.

[A]

Done.

[B]

And so I. But I moved away from the West Village. So when I was in, in Brooklyn, I found a place and it was like a membership and you pay per month and you can go whatever three times. But I went in, it was a 60 minute massage and they started 10 minutes after and then they finished five minutes early. And I was like, can we talk about. Because that's not 60 minutes. And she was like, we give you 10 minutes to change out of your clothes and five minutes to get dressed.

[A]

Were you in a corset? Like full?

[B]

I was corseted.

[A]

A three piece.

[B]

I was wearing two corsets, one on top, one on bottom. And she just said like, we just want to make sure you have time to get out of that.

[A]

And so I had a garter On.

[B]

I was just like, you know what? Like, I don't want to, I don't want to pay that much for a 45 minute massage. It's just not 60 minutes. And like, if you want to call it a 45 minute massage and if that's what I thought I was paying for, like, totally valid, totally valid. But to call it 60 and you're, you're, you're shaving 15 minutes off the top. I mean, I can't do math, but like, that's a percentage. As a people pleaser number.

[A]

As a people pleaser, I'd go best massage.

[B]

I just said I'm going to cancel my membership. But, like, I'm sure plenty of people go and they are fine with that timetable. It just wasn't for me.

[A]

I will say what I love about this is that you, you set your boundaries. You knew what you wanted. My thing is I. For so long, I wouldn't be vocal if they start. And I did want harder or I've only said it a couple times, but maybe a little softer.

[B]

Speak up, bitch challenge.

[A]

Speak up, itch challenge. And you might be complicit. You might be complicit sitting through that massage.

[B]

I have started physical therapy at this place in midtown where they do bodywork. Cause I have a bad shoulder and my hands were really hurting from holding my phone. And I just thought, it's been five years. I've been to pt. Nothing was helping. I've done the exercises. So I go to this new place where they do body work. So he is really getting in there.

[A]

What could be better?

[B]

And like, he f. He fixed me, my shoulder still flares up quite a bit, but my hands are like, better. And he was like, you sleep on your stomach. That's the problem. Because my neck was getting stiff at night. So I have had to completely change my sleep style, which was on my stomach for 34 years of my life. And so now I have to back inside sleep. But it has, like, totally changed my life. I don't know if you could tell I'm in a much better mood lately. Yeah, no, and you hadn't really mentioned.

[A]

I've definitely noticed there's been a shift, for sure. No, that makes me so happy because I do think that these things can heal. Like, I. As I get more massage and like, as, like my body is and is being less tense and I drink a ton of water. After water, you have to drink a ton of water and do an Epsom salt, salt soak. Oh, my God. You'll just feel Like a million bucks. You'll have the best.

[B]

Well, you soak in two inches of water.

[A]

I'm sorry. Ellie's always in a drought. You're so hurtful to me.

[B]

You make up for what the Kardashians do to their lawn with your 2 inch backpack.

[A]

Well, that's my big thing. Yeah. But so, okay, I will tell this story and I'm laughing about it, but I know that it's like a slightly triggering thing. But it did happen and I just.

[B]

You were assaulted.

[A]

So I was assaulted at a massage parlor once. But here's the thing. I think research all the places before you go and be really thoughtful. That's why I'm telling you, Ty on Hillhurst, that if you're in la, that's a great one to go to. Definitely, like, find out who's rubbing you down in a dark room for an hour. I think is. Is important, but I do just have to laugh because the thing. And I get, we might have to cut this, but I kind of just like, this is what happened.

[B]

It's your story.

[A]

I prefer not to totally laugh at it now because. So I'm getting this massage and this, this guy's like, okay, great. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of easier without the blanket. And I'm like, no, I don't think it is. Also, I never get fully naked. It's like I don't. You know, it's. I'm not in my house.

[B]

I do sometimes.

[A]

Sometimes I get that if I'm like, if I know the person, like, we've been there. But if I'm just like hopping into a place which this was like very drive by vibes, like I was just popping in, which is not always like, I don't know, I wouldn't necessarily.

[B]

But it's not your fault. What happened to you is not your fault.

[A]

Thank you, sweetie. And this one thing happened though, where I was oiled down and then all of a sudden the guy just goes and just slaps my ass. It did jiggle. I'll just be totally real. So I assume he got what he.

[B]

When he said, this is easier without the blanket, he meant slapping your ass.

[A]

Yeah, no, I think so. Then he said he was like, bubble butt. And I was like, oh, okay.

[B]

I think thank you so much.

[A]

Yeah, I was like, no, and thank you for saying that. I did like laugh in the moment because I felt so uncomfortable.

[B]

It's very uncomfortable.

[A]

And I was like, oh. And also like, I'm totally good now. Like, I have to go.

[B]

Okay, so you extricated yourself.

[A]

I did. Yeah. I mean, which was so sad. Like, I wanted the rest of the massage, but I will say, like, he didn't have the stones. Like it. The real stones, which I like the hot rocks on my back, but also, like, it wasn't to the level. Where's that? Where did I get that from? Is that Bethenny Frankel where she's like, it's not at the level. Maybe. Who knows what just comes through, you.

[B]

Know, You're a vessel.

[A]

Yeah. I'm sad this happened, but I guess I serve as a warning to everyone. Research the places you're going to. Because I guess finding out later this was a place that people frequented.

[B]

Okay. To get fingered and stuff.

[A]

Finger blast. Yeah. To have a finger of the booty ass bitch.

[B]

He should have asked first because that's just a. Yeah, that's just the thing you can quickly just check in on before you sort of do that.

[A]

Yeah. It's just crazy to then sit back in your car and, like, you just got your ass swatted. You're kind of covered in hot oil.

[B]

And your clothes are getting all oily.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, I didn't get the hot towel to kind of get it all off my body.

[B]

No, you just kind of fled. You fled the scene.

[A]

Yeah, but I. Back to the good. Hey. And I just.

[B]

You just don't want to. We don't want anyone walking into a situation.

[A]

Exactly. I don't want to be like, that's.

[B]

The best thing we would want.

[A]

Yeah. Because then I know you'll tweet. Benny Drama told me to get a.

[B]

Massage and now it's your fault.

[A]

Yeah. They got red handprints on this ass.

[B]

I have found sometimes lately I'm like, I don't want to recommend certain things. Like, I was going to ride for, like, going on vacation alone. But, like, I actually can't advise anyone to do that.

[A]

No.

[B]

So I just think, like, sometimes just know that there are certain things you ride for where we're like, but we don't want to put our girls in a situation.

[A]

There's like, obviously all of this is at your own responsibility. I'd say, namely, Icebreakers. Ice cube.

[B]

Sure. Yeah. That's like, if you're going to play fast and list those things, it's not.

[A]

On us, it's on you.

[B]

Like, we recommend you use it as it's instructed. As instructed.

[A]

I said put four in my mouth. I actually take that back.

[B]

But you said that's what you do. That's not saying that. That's what anyone else. But, sweetie, they're gonna hear that. They're gonna want to be just like their daddy.

[A]

But, yeah, massage has really helped me. And I really. It's such a great way. Like, as I enter the writer's room and I'm hunched over and I'm in this library writing what could be like the next great American record, I'm thinking to myself every now and then, going for a little massage. I will say, there's a great one on Bedford Avenue. I wish I had the name of it.

[B]

But you can go right by your old place.

[A]

I loved it. Oh, my God, it was so amazing.

[B]

And I guess if you don't live in New York or L. A, we got nothing for you in the way of massage.

[A]

Well, I assume you just can't get one, right?

[B]

Yeah, I don't think they have.

[A]

They don't have them. I would love the chairs ones too. If you ever just want to be, like, completely embarrassed, I would say, like, the deepest embarrassment you can feel is get one of those publicly at an airport. I thought they were behind, like, night. Oh, my God, again. I just comes back around. I live my truth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Period.

[B]

I think it's. I think it's wonderful. Be safe out there. So, okay, this happened to me.

[A]

I. I hate so. To go from that into what you.

[B]

Just said, but this is actually kind of funny, because obviously, you know, I'll take a gay guy over a straight guy any day of the week, but when I asked for a male masseuse and someone flamer comes up to me wrists, it's not what I meant.

[A]

You go. I said I wanted hands on me also. Yeah, I. It's funny. I don't really have preference. It can be anyone. But sometimes when it's. It's Thai massage and it's a man, I am like, holy.

[B]

Yeah, they're gonna rock your shit.

[A]

I'm like, you need to hold those poles. You're gonna break my back.

[B]

Yeah, massages are one of those things where it's like. You know that phrase that. It's like pizza is like sex. Like, when it's good, it's really good, and when it's bad, it's still pretty good. Yeah, well, with massage, it's like the opposite. It's like, when it's good, it's really good, and when it's bad, like, you could get.

[A]

You could get injured. And also the worst is when it's just, like. It's just not.

[B]

It's nothing.

[A]

It's, like, tickly and, you know, that like. Like, I'm there for a service. Do you get me?

[B]

Totally. I'm there and you're paying for a service.

[A]

Rocked.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I.

[B]

And what are you doing at the end? You're tipping. I know you're tipping, sweetie. You got.

[A]

Don't be crass.

[B]

You gotta tip these 25.

[A]

Be for real.

[B]

Yeah, I tip my waxer 25 as well.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because it's just like, you saw that. You saw all that.

[A]

Yeah. Well, you. To me, I'm like, you just took care of me and you made me feel really good. Thank you so much. Like, what an incredible skill. I love asking, like, does your family ask for these all the time? And every time, every masseuse is like, kind of. No. Like, sometimes, like my partner see, if.

[B]

I was married to a physical therapist.

[A]

Or a masseuse, I'm like this at dinner.

[B]

Give it to me, baby. In many ways, I think for you, massage acts as a form of medicine. Medicine, which is what I would like to talk about today. So I have a joke about medicine in my hour. I'm not going to do it right now, but I obviously have deep ties to the medical industry, medical practice, and medicine with my dad being a doctor and my mom being a nurse. So I've long believed in the power of medicine. I think Eastern or western, it's sort of whatever works for you. I would definitely say I'm more whatever the one is that we do in America. I don't know what direction is growling.

[A]

That Joe and the juice just.

[B]

It's hitting the cracker sandwich.

[A]

It just hit home.

[B]

I think we do eastern medicine, but I'm not sure.

[A]

I believe.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

I'm not sure.

[A]

This could end right.

[B]

This could end right. Basically, pharmaceuticals. So every day in my garden, I think there's types of medicine, there's types of healing, there's like, you know, I think going to therapy is a type of medicine. For me, working out is a type of medicine. But today I want to talk about pharmaceuticals and the ones that work for you. It's like, it's so cool when you are sick or you have a problem and you literally. There is a medicine that's like, made for what you're going through.

[A]

I mean, it's topical.

[B]

I mean, how cool is science?

[A]

It is a topic.

[B]

How cool is science?

[A]

It's incredible.

[B]

Okay. Penicillin is so fucking cool. And I used to get strep throat all the time as a kid. You know, you get that little syrupy.

[A]

Thing that's Such a thing.

[B]

I had a pacifier because I was four, so it's just covered in germs.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I.

[A]

My sister. Her. Her sons get home from school, and they're like, okay, new virus just dropped.

[B]

Yeah, new virus just dropped.

[A]

Yeah. I got to give it to school.

[B]

As a petri dish. Ear infections.

[A]

Ear infections. I remember one my up as a kid, I was watching out of the Box, and I was like, girl, because you're home sick. I'm like, I'm actually tripping.

[B]

Yeah, I. I got pink eye as a child. I got really bad pink eye. That. I mean, unfortunately, I did have to get held down by two of my cousins, and they had to put the drops in because I just hated it so much. Also, when I would go to the doctor, I hated getting shots. So one time, my sister Pam had to take me, and so I was like, oh, easy. Like. Like, my mom's not here. I'm. I'm not getting a shot today. Like, I'm gonna get out of this. I put my hands in the shirt. You know, I went like this. And I was just like, you're not gonna do it. Oh, of course you're not gonna do it.

[A]

You're not gonna do it.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I was, like, screaming, crying. Also, one time, my mom was taking me and Greg and Tom, so my siblings close to me and age, to the pediatrician, but she didn't want me to know or she didn't want me to know what we were going for. And in the car, Tom goes, are we all getting shots or just me and Greg? And my mom looks back at him. Death stare.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She goes, way to spill the beans. Obviously, we were all getting shots, but if she had told me before, I would have. I would have handcuffed myself to the house.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

So I wouldn't have never been in that car.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But now I understand that. That it was all to help me. I think, unfortunately, right now, we live in a society where Florida is removing vaccine mandates, and more and more people are opting out of vaccinating their children. I think there's, like, the rates are just going down. Measles is spreading.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

That people are gonna die.

[A]

I'm sorry. The measles spreading. And just like, oh, my God. Also, you're, like, putting other people at risk.

[B]

Other people at risk that maybe can't get the vaccine for medical reasons. And so I just think, like, it's insane to me that we would rebuke science and say, like, hey, we have this Thing that's going to make our lives better and make the world safer and we're going to not do that anymore.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I'm waiting for like Republicans to be like we're outlawing seat belts. It's like how many people do you want to die because of your policies? It seems like anything that makes sense and makes people safer they just want to completely do away with for some reason. So I'm just like, please trust the medicine.

[A]

What's the logic there? I mean I guess I'm just like the maha of it all. I am just kind of like what's the.

[B]

They've convinced people, vulnerable people that vaccines cause autism.

[A]

Yes. Which I.

[B]

Which isn't true.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And it's very dangerous to spread lies like that.

[A]

But what is the. I guess what is the motive?

[B]

I don't know. That I don't know because to me.

[A]

I'm trying to figure it out and I'm like. But I. I would definitely think like it was kind of on both sides, like an agenda, you know, big pharma. I'm kind of thinking like wouldn't that it's confusing for like funding for campaigns. I know my big thing with the coal dial.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I don't low key maha of me though.

[B]

No, it kind of is.

[A]

I'm taking it all back. I there. I now know why there's not.

[B]

I don't know what the goal is. I don't know. I guess in some people think because of the propaganda they've been served that it makes like shampoo. The chemicals in shampoos and stuff like give kids like other problems.

[A]

This drives me crazy. Clean beauty has really come into the space and kind of scared people of some of these chemicals that like just are preservatives.

[B]

Yeah. Make sure pretty chill.

[A]

Yeah. It's like I would say that our culture is built right now on like absolute fear.

[B]

Fear everybody.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Here's the thing. When I have a uti, I go to the doctor. They have a solution for that. When I have dermatitis, I go to the doctor. Are you looking right now solution for that? When I have bv, it's like all these medical breakthroughs that help keep us healthy, especially as women and like preventative care which we're going to talk about next week.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's. It's really scary and I just like I'm so thankful that we have scientists and doctors who dedicate their lives to researching mom and dad and my parents and that's how they met. They met at the emergency room. At St. Vincent's she gave him a.

[A]

Shot in the butt.

[B]

And she gave my dad a shot in the butt.

[A]

She said, I know you were caked up like that.

[B]

She was like, wait a minute.

[A]

Hey, you're kind of kicked.

[B]

No, the real story is that they were pumping someone's stomach. My mom was pumping someone's stomach and my dad came up and asked her on a date in the middle.

[A]

That guy died.

[B]

Yeah, well, yeah. She was so excited about the date.

[A]

She was like, oh, my God.

[B]

He finally.

[A]

Wait, this is so crazy because I just visited a friend who had a really bad stomach problem and was having like such intense stomach issues and with her eating. And then she went to the doctor, she got put on an antibiotic, which I think was. Think. I think like everything in moderation in a way. Like, I know sometimes people like will just do so many antibiotics and. But I think it's like.

[B]

Or like the fact that.

[A]

Thoughtful about it.

[B]

We get ads for medicines. I do think we're probably over medicated in this country. I mean, I think that's like, factual.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I'm not, I'm obviously not advocating for going to your doctor with a laundry list of medicines that you want to get on. What I'm saying is that I love when there is something that is solvable and fixable and you can go to the, Get a, Go to the doctor, get a prescription and then it goes away. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

And this is what happened to her. She went on antibiotics and she was thoughtful while she was doing it because obviously with bacteria, sometimes you kill all the good bacteria to do the whole thing. She is, like, she said, it's completely gone. Like, she just feels fantastic. It's so crazy that not everyone in this country can have that.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And I really think that is so deeply detestable.

[B]

Health privilege.

[A]

Health privilege is, it's.

[B]

The disparity is going to get bigger too, because even, even now, after this, this big quote, unquote, big beautiful bill, there's hospitals closing, there's emergency rooms closing, there's trauma centers closing. People are gonna have to travel further to get care. And so already on a system that was like, very overburdened, now it's just gonna get even worse. And so it's really scary. And I think we have a lot to fix in our country. I mean, you can say what you want about the uk, but they do have the National Health Services, the nhs. It's sobering to think about the people that don't have Access to these things. I wish there was more we could do other than just, like, voting and voting people out of office because we can only do so much.

[A]

But we're gonna do it.

[B]

We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. And I just. As someone that's on doxycycline right now, because I have a little. I have a little dermatitis.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm just thankful. I'm grateful. It's gratitude. And we come back to gratitude a lot on this podcast.

[A]

And gratitude, I'd say, and tattitude.

[B]

We're always mentioning both.

[A]

I'm on a prescription right now. I don't want to talk about it yet, but it is working for my dermatitis. I just don't want to say this. And then everyone rush to the hospitals. I don't want the hospitals over.

[B]

Hospitals are already overflowing. They can't take that right now.

[A]

You really can't.

[B]

Let's wait till there's a little day.

[A]

What did Benny drama. Yeah. Let's see, like, how long. Let's see if this really does work. But I went to a doctor, and they took really good care of me. And I went to an allergist. They also took really good care of me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm probably gonna go to a dentist next week. It.

[B]

Oh, my God, I love the dentist.

[A]

I. Yeah. I mean, I had so many cavities as a kid, so I think there's a lot of trauma associated with that. But my parents used to joke that they should have a statue of me there because I paid for it.

[B]

You paid for it, baby?

[A]

Yeah. And I agree.

[B]

There's something so special when you find a doctor that you really like and you really like with their energy.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Totally. Doctors are like every other profession. There's going to be better ones than others. There's going to be ones that make you uncomfortable. My gynecologist is a man, and he's a little, like, crass, but, like, I kind of appreciate it. It feels very honest to me.

[A]

My brain went to just the dinner.

[B]

Disgusting. Things like that. Yeah. So he's sort of doing well. He does a lot of. He does the mask. Jim Carrey's character from the Mask, when he's putting a speculum inside me, he goes, somebody stop me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's really weird, but we laugh.

[A]

It's fun for him to do the bit. And it chills you out.

[B]

And please just, like, go in for your checkups if you are able. And. And my goodness, we just need to keep all the people on the right side of history, we need to keep them safe. We're already having less babies. I haven't fact checked this, but my brother, who I really trust, did say, yeah, Republicans are having more kids than they would and Democrats are having less. So that doesn't bode well for sort of our future. You know what you are, Benny? Hmm?

[A]

A f ck it.

[B]

Your words, not mine, babe. You're my ride or die.

[A]

Ride or die. Well, on that note, this has been so great in the library.

[B]

I mean, how am I not going to be like, you know, talking about serious stuff in this room? It's so distinguished.

[A]

Of course, sweetie. And you are distinguished. I feel like Mr. Rogers in here.

[B]

Yeah. I started the Mr. Rogers movie on the plane the other night. It was so different than what I thought. So I need to get back into it. It just wasn't what I was expecting.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I will finish it.

[A]

Mr. Rogers always said, expect the unexpected.

[B]

Much like Shania Twain.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

In the letter that she wrote to her friend that her husband, her current husband, she said, expect the unexpected.

[A]

She kind of wrote for that, too.

[B]

When she then married that woman's husband.

[A]

Yeah, that's a mini. I'd say a big one.

[B]

That's for her. I mean. Yeah. So we will get into ride or die. I love massage. Whenever I think to go get one, obviously you have to, like, live within your means and whatever.

[A]

Whatever.

[B]

I mean, how many. How many disclaimers can we do on one episode?

[A]

I know. You just. You get this one life. Go treat yourself and get a massage.

[B]

I know, Please. And also, it's a really great gift.

[A]

It's such a good gift. Oh, my God. What an amazing thing to get. Like your parent, your lover, your friend who's going through it for your friend who's going through. Remember that day where I said, let's just go get massages?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Come on. I was happy to introduce you to.

[B]

My friends and you treated me and that was wonderful.

[A]

It was fabulous.

[B]

I do think, like, it's hit or miss and you have to just. It's sort of like with dating. It's like, you know, some masseuses just aren't going to be a good match for you. And that's okay.

[A]

I love you. You look so cute today.

[B]

Thanks.

[A]

I ride for medicine, of course. I think medicine is incredible. Medicine can heal. Medicine can help. Medicine is. It's us in a lot of ways. I hope you're my medicine.

[B]

What did Devin say to us last night at the restaurant? She said I dumped my antidepressants down the toilet because I found ride.

[A]

And we said, Devin, now don't do that, sweetie.

[B]

Devin, now, please be careful.

[A]

I have to pee so bad. I think we just have to stop or else I will just kind of piss myself in the sun.

[B]

And. Babe, that's the episode.

[A]

London can't see me.

[B]

That's the episode.

[A]

Though. I really do ride for medicine. And once I once. This really locks in you guys and just. I get a couple more months.

[B]

Yeah, you're gonna reveal.

[A]

I'll be writing some scripts. Let's just say that. Drama md My love.

[B]

I can't wait. The doctor will see you now.

[A]

To all the boys I've roomed before. Oh, my. Exit.

[B]

Benny, babe. Eyes on the road. Benny, go. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.