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Ben Bullen
Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartradio. Welcome back to the show, fellow ridiculous historians. This is publishing on Christmas Day, so happy Christmas to all who celebrate Holly jolly. All right. Well.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Oh, the mistletoe.
Ben Bullen
The booer in the peanut gallery over here.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
What a scrinch.
Ben Bullen
You said grudge. You said woo in a boo way.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
He did say woo in a boo way, Max.
Ben Bullen
Woo. And a boo way. Our super producer, Mr. Max Williams.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Kitty's got claws.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, that's Noel Copenhagen Brown. They call me Ben Bullen in this part of the world. Hello. Hello. And Bias, the biggest goose in all of London. This is tradition.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Tiny Tim lives. He lives.
Ben Bullen
This is. We're big fans of odd traditions. We consider them straight seahorse teeth. So we're recording this.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
I love that you're trying to make seahorse teeth come back. I'm here for it, Ben. It's so funny because it's like I don't even think we acknowledged, maybe we did at one point that that is from a very early episode of the show about wooden teeth or about various materials.
Ben Bullen
Hippopotamus teeth.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Right? And they called them seahorses because. Not because they were the little tiny guys, but because the horse of the sea, the hippopotamus.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, Straight seahorse.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Can you imagine making teeth out of actual seahorses? They'd be all chitinous and like crunchy and barnacly.
Ben Bullen
It'd be a lot of work for little return. One of my favorite hippopotamus facts that we haven't mentioned on air is that the world's most dangerous large land animal is a vegetarian. The hippopotamus is not attacking you to eat you. It simply does not like other things.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Right. And my favorite fake hip hop line involving a hippopotamus is from Fight of the Concords where they say, I'm the hip hop epotamus. My rhymes are bottomless.
Ben Bullen
And then they pulse. They choke. Yeah. Like eminem in the first act of 8 Mile. We are recording this for you, folks. It's December 18th as we're coming in with big end of the year energy. If you're hearing this when it publishes, it is Christmas day and Tiny Tim lives. And it's a bad day for the biggest goose in all of London. We are again, we're big, big fans of trad made up ones. I guess all tradition is made up at some point. We think it's Zanzibar. We think it's Falcon. Around this time of year. We'd like to take a moment and explore some of the stuff we did not get to in previous episodes.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Because you're saying we're starting a new tradition.
Ben Bullen
We are. We are. It was because we haven't done this before. No, we've done it. We've. We've done some leftover episodes before. Some things we didn't get to, but.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
We didn't tent pole it at the end of the year like this.
Ben Bullen
Now we're making it a holiday thing. This is Noel's.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
We'll maybe adhere to. We'll make no promises. We'll do our best.
Max Williams
I will try to keep track of it.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Crack the whip, Max.
Ben Bullen
Oh, good luck, Max. You got some raucous members.
Max Williams
Almost done with the States.
Ben Bullen
Almost. Take that soup, John. You slow rolled that.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
And yeah, Max, you got some serious cats to herd.
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Stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done.
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Noel Copenhagen Brown
IBM. We're going to do this in sort of three acts, the first of which comes from a series near and dear to Max's heart. The series not of the States, but of the wonders of the ancient world.
Ben Bullen
Ah, yes. And then we'll touch on Tupperware. We might have some stuff to say about Hare and inventors who died by their own hand. Okay, so we're very excited about our Wonders of the World series. Please do check out our upcoming episode in 2026 where we finally ask, what doth a wonder make in this?
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Answer it many times over with varying.
Ben Bullen
Degr of success and Noel. In advance of that episode on what Makes a Wonder Wondrous, we wanted to share some of the things we didn't get to in our previous episodes on the wonders of the Ancient World. How about we go to the Hanging Gardens conversation?
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Yeah, for sure. These are some deep cuts, and as they say, the first cut is the deepest. That's because it's made of glass, which can quite literally cut you. We're talking about the Glass beach in Northern California, right?
Ben Bullen
The Glass beach in Northern California. It's quite literal when you see the name that says glass, because once upon a time, this was a city dump. I'm not cool with it.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
I'm not either. Glass Beach. This makes me think of the horror stories my parents told me about going to certain beaches where there'd be, like, hypodermic needles washed up on the shore. This doesn't sound cool. It's true, though. It was once a city dump dump site. And now it has transformed into quite a glittering coastline. However, it's not glittering with, you know, sand and polished stones. It is glittering with literal, actual facts. Glass from the early 1900s to the mid-1960s, bottles and cans just Clap your hands. And appliances were pushed over cliffs in a sickening display of litter buggery into the ocean. And what emerged over time as this material kind of, I guess, coalesced were polished pieces of sea glass. And now it's a super popular tourist site along the northern coast of California.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, there's even a sea glass museum now. I want to throw to Max here. Max, you have seen the glass beach. Could you describe your experience?
Max Williams
Yeah, it was a number about 10 years ago when I was going up the whole west coast. I was on, you know, California one, the very famous highway. And it's like, outside of Fort Bragg bag. And I knew nothing about this, but I went to this thing and I'm like, wow, this place is really cool. I had no idea, though, at the time that it was actual glass that had like. Like the way. Like the way it had been created because it just looks like it's like some beautiful, like, volcanic rock. Because, you know, up there in that part of California, all the sand's like, black and, like volcanic and stuff.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Super cool.
Max Williams
It looks so beautiful and, like, natural. And then when I was doing this research, like, literally when I found out how it had happened when. When I was researching Hanging Gardens, and I was like, okay, this is really cool, but let's not do this again.
Ben Bullen
Right? Yeah. Some mistakes are to be acknowledged and not replicated.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
It's a life finds a way situation, you know, where it's like sort of over time, the environment sort of adapts to the things that people do to it.
Ben Bullen
I think it's a. Humanity finds art in error is probably a way to put it.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
I do like art based on error and randomness.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. And this brings us to another thing from Hanging Gardens we didn't originally get to. You ever look at a lake and thought, what if this was pink? Full disclosure, I have. I have thought stuff like that often because I am partially colorblind and it's just sort of gray.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
It's a genuine question.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. I'm like, what? I don't know. Maybe it is.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Perhaps some clown tights got dunked in there.
Ben Bullen
Rise of the Clown Pants. Another classic episode. This brings us to Lake Hillier, easily.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Mistaken for Lake Hitler if you're looking at it on the page. That's not what it is.
Ben Bullen
Just be careful. Yeah.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Yeah. And it has a dot com with lots of good information about Lake Hiller.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. So apparently, Noel, this one is actually a actual fact shout out to Lauren Vogelbaum, friend of the show, who we.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Saw last night at a little Holiday, a happy hour.
Ben Bullen
Yes. This is a pink colored lake because it lies just next to the Pacific Ocean. And if you regard it from above, the color of the lake really pops with the blue of the ocean. As long as you're able to see all the colors. Before we move on, we do have to explain the mystery. Once upon a time, the place was pink. Why was that for sure?
Noel Copenhagen Brown
And as we said, nothing to do with clown pants. It was to do with microorganisms. If anyone is from or has visited the Atlanta area, there is an incredible wonder of our area anyway, called Arabia Mountain, where there are these incredible little red, bright red pools in certain areas. And it is because they are habitats to these microorganisms. Specifically in the case of Lake Hillier, we're talking about halobacteria.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, yeah. And as we know, fortunately or unfortunately, the pink color has started to dissipate.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
And that's the thing too. If you go to Arabia Mountain, they don't want you to trod in those pools because they do want to preserve these ecosystems. And they are quite striking. If you ever visit that place, it feels kind of like being on the moon or like another planet or something.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, Pet Sematary 2 was filmed there.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
No way.
Ben Bullen
I didn't do it. I spent. Or parts of it. I spent a lot of formative years in Arabia Mountain. I know it well. Funny story about that, by which I mean sinister. There were a series of ritualized murders there in the 1970s that got covered up. But don't let that ruin your time. I love Arabia Mountain. I think everybody should go check it out. And while you're in the area, do please, do, please take an extra few hours to visit Our lady of the Holy Spirit, the Trappist monastery right up the road, you can hang out the entire time. They've got a sick bonsai garden, they've got a good cafe, they've got a great museum. The cathedral is stunning. I would just say watch out for the geese. They're the only bad.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Watch out for. That's. That's words to live by, Ben. Always live your life watching out for the geese because they'll sneak up on you when you least expect it.
Ben Bullen
I don't. I just don't know how you could live at a place that serene and holy and still be a curmudgeon. But the geese do it.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
They really do. Yeah, they're really cranky. Not to mention the leveled up Pokemon form of the goose, the swan, which literally dragged our friend Scott Benjamin as a small child to his watery grave almost. I think it was going for his ice cream.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, I've had some run ins with those creatures as well. Look, not to be anti swan, but anytime you think you can trust those creatures because they are picturesque, just pull up your Internet browser of choice and look at the inside of the beak.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
For sure. It's like looking into the maw of hell. And just really quickly, I'm glad we talked about Arabian Mountain, because it does have some really cool striking these little pools. They are apparently a very specific type of small, fragile flower. And not exactly the same phenomenon we're talking about with Lake Hillier, but a worthy tangent nonetheless.
Ben Bullen
The fourth largest basaltic extrusion. Actually, if you want to be fun at parties, you might be having a holiday shindig and someone brings up a pink lake and you think, well, I see you, pink lake. I raise you Rainbow Mountain. This is. This is from our mausoleum at Halicarnassus.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Episode Brother, that's got. Oh, my God. There has to be a psychedelic rock band called Rainbow Mountain. If it's too Mountain too good. Yeah, you've got Rainbow is also a band. Let's put them together and we get Rainbow Mountain. I might steal that. Yeah. What is the deal with Rainbow Mountain? I can already picture it in my mind. It just seems so painterly.
Ben Bullen
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. These are the mountains in China. The Zhongye Danjia National Park. We're going to Carly Hoke in her article 22 Strangest Natural Wonders of the World. These mountains in Danxia have a range of colors. They have this vast spectrum that again, I probably can't see, but I hope everybody else can. They coat the mountains throughout the year. It's all due to layers of sediment that have settled over millions, millions of years, millennia upon millennia. And ancient people probably thought this was painted on purpose. It looks purposeful if you pull up a picture.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Yeah. Very painterly indeed. In fact, as they put it in the piece that we were referencing, or in Carly's piece, rather, painted by the gods.
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And there are more wonders to get to.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
We have such wonders to show you. Or not show you. We've showed you enough. Let's move on to something.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. Well, this is another wonder we'd love to see. Okay, we are gonna do one more. Yeah. Tupperware.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
What a bait and switch. What a bait and switch. No, it's true. At the time.
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Noel Copenhagen Brown
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Ben Bullen
Resealable as well. Remarkable and resealable. Before Tupperware, people often would preserve their leftovers by putting a shower cap over a bowl or a dish. Because.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Pretty industrious. I'm not gonna lie. I respect the life hack of that. Right.
Ben Bullen
And Tupperware, as we learned, was displayed at the New York Museum of Modern Art in 1956.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Total wonder it became Art Decade. They got it.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. They.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
New York Museum of Modern Art.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. Thank you, moma.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Oh, this is the moma. I love the moma. So I. It's one of your favorites, too, Ben.
Ben Bullen
I love it, too. This idea of Tupperware. There's a lot of stuff we didn't get to in that episode, but we did want to have a couple of mentions. Our pal, the inventor Tupper also invented something called sure Stay Hairpins. And they were supposed to be a better way to hold the modern hair. Problem is, the product was unsuccessful. The slogan was so bad. Here's the slogan. Many women wear more or less false hair wigs cost good money, and romance or social prestige often hangs by the hairs on one's head. A good sure Stay hairpin is needed. Creepy voice like Bond villain voice.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Aggressive.
Ben Bullen
A little.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
A little insulting.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, especially like you're attacking people by trying to. As a way to try to sell stuff to them.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Well, obviously, you know, I just googled sure Stay Hairpins, and nearly nothing comes up. But you know why? Because it was like the hairpin that time forgot. Because all we ultimately needed in a design that hasn't changed in many, many, many, many, many years is the humble bobby pin, which you can use to do all those things, advertise, and also to pick a lockdown during a heist.
Ben Bullen
Sure Stay was such a womp. Womp as far as hair products go. Because, you know, it's kind of like this. And beat me here for this part, Max, because we're at the end of the year. Imagine you have. You're trying to sell a car. Thank you. Wait for it, though. Imagine you tried to sell a car, right? You're Ford. And you're trying to sell cars and you say, hey, buddy, you. You don't have a car. You're bad at hitchhiking. You need a Ford. And then later. And then, thank you, Max. And then later, the. The top brass at Ford is like, why does no one like our cars? Is it because we were rude to them?
Noel Copenhagen Brown
We were mean to them? I'm surprised anybody still likes cars, considering the scheme of it all with the salespeople and no shade on anybody that's a car salesman. But they do quite frequently have a certain aggressive demeanor about.
Ben Bullen
It's an unnecessary rent, sinking middleman system.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
It's very unsafe.
Ben Bullen
Doesn't have to. It doesn't have to happen that way. Just like privatized insurance.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
It doesn't have to be that way.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, exactly.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
There's gotta be a better way. And there is, but it's one of those things that's just been that way. And these industries have a stranglehold on the way things are. But, you know, what is pleasant for Ben or what are pleasant?
Ben Bullen
What are pleasant?
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Cartoons.
Ben Bullen
Ah, yes, I agree.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
We really like cartoons.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. We're gonna stick with the hair for a second, because in an earlier episode, courtesy of our research associate, Ren on hair dye, we learned some surprising things about Egypt and cartoons, Right.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
We did learn that the Ramesses the Great's hair likely was red. There was certain prestige that went along with that. I think it was a difficult Hugh to obtain. And he wore it as a bit of a flex. And then everyone else started wearing it too. It's escaping me a little bit. Bim, could you maybe help us fill in the details about what was so special about red? Was that a material that was more precious?
Ben Bullen
The idea is, okay, so for a long time, people were going back and forth about this because a mummified corpse of a human, sometimes, when exposed to air, the hair or whatever fibers are left over will react to the atmosphere and turn red. However, Ramses, our boy, was. He was rocking this as sort of a aspect of his regal Persona, right? Because it was a flex.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
It was to stand out. I did remember that detail, and I can't remember what the stuff was that they used to make it, but they mashed up all kinds of things. Like what? Like powdered insect shells and various pigments and all kinds of stuff. They were also great at cosmet and other remedies, you know, and poultices and things. The Egyptians were onto something. But we did promise cartoon talk. And if anyone remembers the early aughts, the earliest of aughts. Cartoon Network original series Courage the Cowardly Dog. You'll remember. It's sort of a monster of the week show wherein Courage the cowardly dog and his family, the kindly farmers, are menaced by some sort of creature apparition. It's got Scooby Doo vibes. And despite his cowardliness, Courage usually saves the day. And in an episode from 2000, actually, this may have been when the episode was from. I seem to remember Courage may have started. A lot of those shows started in, like, 99. King Ramses curse. The name of the episode. The monster of that particular week was King Ramses.
Ben Bullen
Ah, yeah. And the red hair. I just looked back at our previous research. The red hair was associated with royalty and with the deity set.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Okay.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. So people are still wondering whether this was a genetic. Was this a natural redhead or day walker or was there a dye job? We know that Ramses is redheaded when he plays his villainous role in Courage the Cowardly Dog.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
To be fair, he just wants back what is his. But then Courage and his family sort of gets swept up in the madness, and they really had nothing to do with it. His sacred slab is stolen by robbers, and his apparition appears outside Courage's family's farmhouse to get it back. And our research associate, Ren, delightfully put the quote, return the slab, King Ramses from the episode.
Ben Bullen
And there's another thing we wanted to mention about hair dye. Fast forward through time and space to the story of Howard Hughes. We have an episode coming up on Howie later, but he has a little bit of an historical footnote in the story of hair dye. A guy born in Texas. He becomes a millionaire at the young age of 18. He inherits his father's estate. And he's a really chiseled looking guy. He's a Tony Stark character, right?
Noel Copenhagen Brown
100%, yeah. A real smoke show, a real playboy. He got into Hollywood. He was a producer and maybe even director of some very popular Hollywood properties at the time, one of which won him an Oscar.
Ben Bullen
Mm. Yeah.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Something about Pew, Pew fighter planes. And apparently some of the shots are, like, for the time, were revolutionary in terms of, like, showing air combat. And people almost thought it was, like, news footage. It was so well done.
Ben Bullen
And in our episode on hair dye, we talk about Jean Harlow, one of the original blonde bombshells.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Another smoke show.
Ben Bullen
Right, right. Because of the hair dye, which was one of the decisions made. Howard Hughes, he signed her up to act, and then he directed her first major role, Hell's Angels, 1930. So Howard Hughes had to get away.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
With that swear in the title back then, Right?
Ben Bullen
Yeah. Howard Hughes, we're saying, is partially responsible for the concept of the blonde bombshell. And we cannot wait for you to hear the rest of our exploration.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Did we really leave this story out of that episode? Because he was a real pill about it. Like, he was really very toxically masculine in his wanting to shape Ms. Harlow in this image that he had in mind. And to get your hair that shade of blonde back then required all sorts.
Ben Bullen
Of very damaging chemicals.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Damaging not only to the hair, but to, like, the skin. And I think even some of the chemicals that could have caused. I don't want to go so far.
Ben Bullen
They get into your system. System is cognitive.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Yeah. Can we go into a little more detail about that? I do. I do want to. Hughes is his own thing. There's a million things we could talk about.
Ben Bullen
I would love to talk.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
How did it go? Like what. What ended up happening with. With Gina Harlow? Is she okay?
Ben Bullen
She died at the age of 26 due to.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
It's not okay. Not necessarily hair related, but it couldn't have been good. All those fumes and stuff, too.
Ben Bullen
And I think a lot of Howie's behavior, even at that point, is indicative of his precipitous mental decline.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Oh, 100%. If you've seen the film, which I only just saw it for the first time very recently, of course, it was good Scorsese, but it was pretty good. He died alone of his own choice. He was surrounded by whomever he wanted to have in his company, having that level of power, but he excluded himself. And I believe he was like, peeing into jars and wearing tissue boxes for shoes.
Ben Bullen
Not trimming his toenails, his fingernails. Yeah, he was. Look, all the money in the world doesn't solve every problem. In fact, I was very interested in some research from a few years ago that says we'd have to adjust for inflation, but statistics show us that making your country or your community's equivalent of $70,000 a year up to that point. Money does provide happiness. After that, you run the risk of getting in a Howard Hughes situation.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
More money, more problems. I think P. Didgy once said. No, that wasn't him. I don't think he wrote.
Ben Bullen
That is him now. Big name.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Have you seen that P. Diddy dog? Have you seen that Diddy Doc?
Ben Bullen
Yes, I had to watch it.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
It's very good. I mean, you know, good quote, unquote, but it's like that guy was apparently just an utter fraud.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, yeah, not.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
And not a good dude to me.
Ben Bullen
Not an ideal person nor musician.
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Ben Bullen
Going back to Howard Hughes, we do have a bit of a through line we've been doing for a while now. A series of a mutual unanimous fascination for us inventors who died by their own hands.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
But not in the way you might typically think of that phrase. They didn't unalive themselves on purpose, right?
Ben Bullen
Ooh, great goat. Yeah, this is like.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
What's it called, Ben? The IG Nobel Prize.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Darwin Awards.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
That's right. There's the IG Nobel Prize. And the Darwin Awards is the one for people that have like, the IG Nobel Prize, I think is like the razzies of, of science and innovation. And the Darwin Awards is awarded posthumously to people who unalive themselves in bizarre and accidental ways.
Ben Bullen
And the IG Nobel Awards are a raucous good time. They actually, this year, the IG Nobel Awards. NPR aired part of the IG Nobel Awards. And the people who show up up are great. Like, these are. These are scientists. These are actual academics. They love sharing their work. It's an all around good time. It's kind of like a nicer version, a nicer, more nerdy version of a Friars Club roast.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
I'll tell you who knows how to party, Ben. Scientists.
Ben Bullen
Oh, yeah. No, I can't even. You know, back when I used to party, even I couldn't hang with mathematicians. Those guys are nuts.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Absolutely nuts. Always jotting formulas on the back of their cocktail napkins making you feel dumb.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, yeah. It always try to talk into huffing ether. And I'm like, what century is this?
Noel Copenhagen Brown
What's on that rag? Smells delightful.
Ben Bullen
So some inventors we wanted to mention, we, we have more of this coming up in future iterations of our series.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Because weirdly, it's not and it's a particularly exhaustible subject.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, it's a well that keeps giving terrible and frightening water. But here are a few we didn't get to previously. We want to introduce you to a guy named William Bullock. Before we meet Will, though. Noel, Max, we gotta meet a guy named Richard Ho. Hoe.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
That's right. In 1832, printing was revolutionized by Mr. Ho with an E, H O e, who converted the process from one that used flat surfaces to transfer ink to paper into one that used these cylinders. Think of like a classic newspaper printing montage, you know, rolling across the paper. This is apparently a lot more efficient, took up a lot less space, all of that stuff. Earlier presses could only print around 400 sheets an hour, whereas the cylinder press could turn out between 1,000 and 4,000 pages in that same amount of time.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, yeah. So that's Richard Hope, that's 1832. Our buddy Willie is coming onto stage in 1865. He has a breakthrough with something he calls the Bullock press. In a burst of humility, because his last name is Bullock. This is a rotary press that gets fed by a continuous sheet of paper. Right. So again, we're thinking back to the newspaper printing press montage scenes. This continuous roll of paper, like a roll of toilet paper, it's stored on one side of the machine and just goes through. You can cut it later. This saves so much time because also.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
The way L. Ron Hubbard wrote his short story, like I believe he actually typed onto rolls of paper because they were just like throwaway. He wrote so many of these schlocky sci fi stories before he, you know, founded a religion.
Ben Bullen
There is a true story about one of the beat poets or beat writers, Jack Kerouac, who took a bunch of stimulants, became somehow intoxicated on uppers, and then just wrote on a typewriter on a continuous sheet of paper. He just kept going.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
So we have Mr. Ho, who invented the cylinder rolling process, and then Mr. Bullock, who introduced the continuous roll of paper that just doubled up on the efficiency of what Ho had previously done.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, absolutely. So the pre hoe printing press, which is not going to sound weird out of context, ever stamped. Yeah, yeah. 400 sheets per hour if it's at its top red line speed. The Hoe printing press, because of the cylinder we mentioned, could go 1,000 to 4,000 pages in an hour. The Bullock Press can go 12,000 sheets per hour and. But wait, there's more. It can print on both sides and the rolls are like five miles long even today.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
I'm impressed that a printer can print on both sides. You know, an electric printer. I say, wow, the future we're living in is, is wild.
Ben Bullen
That sense of anticipation when the page goes out and you see the first page and it's like, ooh, not yet, not yet. And then it goes back in.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
But then you can imagine that to achieve that level of productivity, these roles had to be going at a hefty clip.
Ben Bullen
Ah, that's the thing. Yeah. No. So our buddy Willie does not have a long time to rest on his laurels. He. He does successfully get this out into the world, and he makes a big splash. He makes some headlines on multiple levels, but he is at the Philadelphia public ledger in 1867, supervising a bullock press. And he tries to kick a driving belt onto a pulley.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Yep. And very similar to the plot of the Stephen King Show. The Mangler dude gets mangled hard in the leg, crushed. He doesn't die right then and there, though. As is often the case with some of these inventor deaths, it gets infected and goes gangrenous, and he eventually does succumb to the infection just a couple of days later.
Ben Bullen
The Mangler is such a great short story.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
It's pretty good. Do you remember what led to the Mangler being a ghost machine that could. They accidentally put gelatin in it or like a variety of things that got spilled into this laundry press were just the right things to curse it and have it be sentient demonic entities.
Ben Bullen
They accidentally summoned a demon. Right. With just a little bit of the wrong herbs.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Because I believe the gelatin, it was literally like horse hooves that they used to put in. Or the material that's. And horseshoes, I guess, was part of whatever this ritual was. But, you know, people give Stephen King a hard time. Cause it's like, what if I made a spooky newspaper machine?
Ben Bullen
Come on.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Cocaine's a hell of a drug, man. That's all I'm saying.
Ben Bullen
That's true. I love that guy.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Oh, he's the best. And I'm glad that he got right, you know, in terms of his struggles with addiction. And I think he's, you know, continued to do some really impressive output over the years.
Ben Bullen
It's like blood of a virgin bat's blood. Horse's hoof. Because there's a container of jello.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
That's right.
Ben Bullen
Or something.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Yeah. I don't remember how the bat gets in there, but it happens over the span of time. But yeah. Okay, so our guy, Willy Bullock is no more, unfortunately.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. And he had also, by the way, credit where due. He had created several other pretty impressive mechanical devices. A grain drill, a way. A proto automation for seed planting, a hay press. And why don't we end on this one? Do you guys ever think about riding motorcycles?
Noel Copenhagen Brown
I think about it, and then I immediately recoil and think, that's a terrible Idea. It seems fun, but I just. It's so dangerous. I do like to ride bikes, but I'm very cautious.
Ben Bullen
Good friend of the show, Andrew Howard has a bike. He's a moto boy. He's a moto man.
Max Williams
He would say he has a bike. You can ride it if you like. It's got a basket and pedals and things to make it look good.
Ben Bullen
It's true.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
He'd give it to us if he could, but somebody borrowed it. Never mind.
Max Williams
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Ben Bullen
Stop it.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Yeah.
Ben Bullen
So this is the story not of our pal Andrew, but of our pal Sylvester h. Roper. In 1896, before the dawn of the modern crotch rockets, our buddy is perfecting his Roper steam velocipede. I love the word. Ooh.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Velocipede. You know what's funny? William Bullock, who we were just talking about, is the name also of the sheriff in the show Deadwood. And there is a. In that show that involves a velocipede. It is what you might call a boneshaker. The one with the big wheel in front that you see, like the muscle men with the curly moss. Like a penny farthing. A penny farthing. But this was called the character who I believe runs the tavern, one of the taverns, one of the lesser taverns. He brings a velocipede and shows it to everybody. So what is the twist in this version of the thing?
Ben Bullen
Yeah, this is basically a primitive or proto version of the modern motorcy story. Story goes that one day Sly is out. Or sil. I like Sly.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
I think Sly get his family stone.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. All right. So our buddy Sylvester is working on the Roper steam powered velocipede. He goes out.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Steam power.
Ben Bullen
I know, right?
Noel Copenhagen Brown
That's so steam powered.
Ben Bullen
He goes to drive this thing and he wants to prove to the population, prove to the public and the world at large that that his invention is a good idea. Basically. Look how fast it goes. Steam is the future. Yeah. We can go long distances. Yeah. We can go on public roads, off road, even.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Wow. We don't know about that. But it wasn't like, you know, of course, maybe you're picturing some sort of horrific Hindenburg esque explosion, you know, but that's not what happened at all. It was just. It was the guy's time. And it happens to be the time that he was demonstrating the philosophy.
Ben Bullen
His heart went too quickly. Yeah.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
He's too stoked.
Ben Bullen
Yeah. He got so excited. He got over revved he suffered a heart attack. He was incapacitated while on the vehicle and he lost control of the velocipede. He crashed and died.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
At least he died doing what he loved.
Ben Bullen
Yes, at least. Yes, that is true, man. I was going to make a joke, but you're absolutely right. It also makes us wonder about the ways history could have gone. You know, if this guy popularized the steam velocipede, would we have steam powered motorbikes today?
Noel Copenhagen Brown
I don't know, man.
Ben Bullen
I would say probably not.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
There was steam powered lots of stuff and then eventually just, you know, gas powered just was like, yeah, we can do better, right?
Ben Bullen
And we are powered by neither gas nor steam. We are powered by a fascinating of all things ridiculous caffeine. Oh yes. And shout out to no offense, Max. Big thank you to our other super producer, all of the caffeine producer.
Max Williams
It's what powers your. It's what steam powers your super producer.
Ben Bullen
Yeah, we by the way folks, we're an audio podcast at present. We all three organically like good improv. We just held up our caffeinated drinks and and cheers.
Max Williams
I had cold brew and hot coffee at the same time.
Noel Copenhagen Brown
Maniac, you.
Ben Bullen
Cold brew for. Cold brew for us, hot brew for the rest. Big thanks to our super producer, Mr. Max Williams. Big thanks to our composer, Alex Williams. Big, big thanks to the rude dudes of ridiculous crime. If you dig us, you'll love them. Noel. Merry Christmas, man.
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Merry Christmas to you man. What a good time. What a good, good year. We'll see you next time, folks. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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Hosts: Ben Bowlin, Noel Brown
Super Producer: Max Williams
Date: December 25, 2025
In this festive special, Ben and Noel treat listeners to a “clip show” packed with “leftovers”—fascinating historical tidbits, bizarre facts, and amusing tangents that didn’t make it into earlier episodes. With a playful, irreverent tone, they cover odd traditions, strange wonders of the world, failed inventions, the history of hair dye (with an Egyptian twist), and curious cases of inventors dying by their own inventions. The episode is divided into loose “acts” and provides a real sense of camaraderie between the hosts and their producer as they riff and ramble through history’s stray crumbs.
Research reveals ancient Egyptians (notably Ramses) likely had red-dyed hair, signifying power.
“King Ramses’ Curse” episode in Courage the Cowardly Dog gets loving mention.
Hughes’ role in Hollywood’s first “blonde bombshell,” Jean Harlow, driven by (at the time) extremely toxic chemicals in hair dye.
Reflection on Hughes’ reclusive decline, connecting to broader research on money vs. happiness.
“More money, more problems. I think P. Diddy once said. No, that wasn’t him…” – Noel (30:38)
Timestamps: [23:22]-[31:02]
1896: Roper tries to prove his steam-powered motorcycle (“velocipede”) is practical; suffers a heart attack during demonstration and crashes.
Amusing detour: bicycles and "boneshakers," with the Deadwood TV show referenced.
Timestamps: [34:22]-[45:14]
The conversation is playful, full of puns, tangents, and easy camaraderie between Ben, Noel, and Max. Each “leftover” story is handled with a mix of historical fact, speculation, and hearty skepticism.
This “clip show” episode embodies the spirit of Ridiculous History: warm, weird, and witty. The hosts bring obscure oddities and forgotten figures to vivid, comedic life, all while inviting listeners to find joy in the quirks of the past. If you enjoy the show’s blend of historical deep-dives and good-natured goofiness, this episode is a festive treat—equal parts celebration and silliness.
Recommended For: Fans of history with a side of humor, trivia lovers, and those curious about the delightful detritus of previous Ridiculous History episodes.