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Ben Bollen
Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartradio. Welcome back to the show, fellow Ridiculous historians. Thank you as always so much for tuning in. Let's give a big shout out to our super producer, Mr. Max Williams.
Noel Brown
Gobbledygook, hippity hoopla. What is it? Bibbidi, Bobbidi, Bang bang boogie setup? Never mind. Carry on.
Ben Bollen
Nailed it. No, we can get it into the OED. That's Mr. Noel Brown. None other. They called me Ben Bollen in this neck of the woods. And guys, thinking about this, we love words. We actually would not have this show without words.
Noel Brown
It's kind of key. I suppose we could just do it with Wild Gesticulations now here in the video age. But don't think it would hit the same and it'd be really hard to consume whilst doing your housework.
Ben Bollen
That's right. Cause you have to watch us. We are still working on the interpretive dance and episodes of Ridiculous History.
Noel Brown
It's always happening in our hearts.
Ben Bollen
There it is. So, you know, thank you. Words. It's weird, Noel, because language is one of humanity's oldest technologies ever and it is still very much a work in progress.
Noel Brown
And we love that, you know, on this show and on stuff that I want you to know, this idea of things you might not think are technology as being a form of technology, you know, it is an innovation. The idea of being able to manipulate sounds and phonemes and have shared understanding and logic surrounding ways that we can relate to other people. To have a means to do that and a medium with which to transmit those ideas is absolutely technology. And I don't know, maybe I'm stating the obvious, but every time that comes up, I'm always like a little like, blown away.
Ben Bollen
It's wild, right? And I'm right there with you, man. There is no universal spoken language. In previous episodes, we talked about how there were a couple of folks over millennia who had tried to prove to themselves that a universal language existed. That if you raised a couple of human kids and you never let them talk to anyone else, they would speak the true language of God.
Noel Brown
Which is what? Esperanto.
Ben Bollen
I love an Esperanto reference, man.
Noel Brown
So I love the idea of Esperanto being the true language of God.
Ben Bollen
That would be so wild. Check out our. Our pals, Josh and Chuck and Jerry. They made an excellent Esperanto episode on their show. Stuff you should know.
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Ben Bollen
It's weird because to your point, Noel, it is baffling to consider language technology. Over time, thousands of years, over millennia, all sorts of people tried to figure out what makes language tick, how communication works, and again, the general hibbity hoopla of interacting with other humans. None of us are perfect at it.
Noel Brown
And to your point, Ben, in this delightful bit of research here, on a long enough timeline, everything's gobbledygook. Oh yeah, it's just a matter of what kind of hits and what becomes useful and enough people use and then that becomes part of the, you know, lexicon or whatever. And you always say on Stuff They Don't Want yout to Know. And on this show I'm certain that, you know, the English language or language in general is a work in progress. And it is a living, you know, language that we're always having new words being injected. And I love this idea of other countries too, using words from countries that are not their own and then recontextualizing them and giving them their own unique spin. But ultimately it's a game of telephone that involves the entire world.
Ben Bollen
Yeah, and here's a spoiler for, For a lot of us listening right now, this is a play along at home episode. All words at some point were made up, meaning that at some point in ancient history, enough people pointed at the sky and said sky. And everybody just went along with that because they, you know, got what you were pointing at.
Noel Brown
Is it vibes based, Ben? Is it like a lot of words? You know, we have the term onomatopoeia referring to a word that is sounds like the thing that it's describing. You know, sometimes can be very effective. I guess those make sense to me that someone looked at a thing and saw the sound that it made and then created the word. But then sky, like what? Where does that even come from? But who are we to say? I mean, we weren't there.
Ben Bollen
Yeah, and I, I love that point there, Noel, because again, civilization is still working on, as you said, the vibes. For a few years now, you, Max and I have been wondering about a. A bit of related ridiculous history. How does a word officially become a quote unquote real word, like the kind of thing you see in a dictionary or encyclopedia? What is to my old friend from just saying grando boys as a synonym for Thousands of US Dollars. Do we just insist upon it until everybody plays along?
Noel Brown
Yeah. I think that's the only way to do it.
Ben Bollen
This is our first meta episode of 2026. What makes a word a word?
Noel Brown
Yeah, it is. And before we jump into this, I've been on a bit of a tear, a bit of an obsessive Internet rabbit hole lately. Are you familiar bizarre patois and slang used by Toronto teens?
Ben Bollen
Ah, you're on the way to Canada. That's true.
Noel Brown
Well, I am, but this is unrelated. The Internet started serving me up these videos of these kids in Toronto. Specifically. They sound like they're Jamaican, and they use all these crazy words like cheesed and mandam, which is a group of friends. Or nyzit, which recognize walahi, which is Arabic, if I swear to God. Ting, which is very much a, you know, Jamaican kind of slang. They're always saying, like, tutus. My word, fam. And all of these crazy. It's bizarre, dude. Just look it up in your spare time. Anyone out there that isn't aware, just type in Toronto slang and you'll see some stuff that will blow your wig back.
Ben Bollen
I can't wait to dive into this. I know several of those words, but it'd be weird if I use them.
Noel Brown
No, but these kids also, they all, like, pitch their voices up and sound like the Lucky Charms Leprechaun. It's a whole thing, dude. It's wild. Wild.
Ben Bollen
Oh, man. That's all. Okay, okay. I'm not going to say it's awesome.
Noel Brown
Tutu is my word, Krolski. Like, it's insane.
Ben Bollen
You give me perfect recommendations every time, man. I'm excited to dive in. We do have to acknowledge, folks, this is an English centric episode. English language centric episode. And we are talking about getting words into the official English lexicon. If you look at other languages and your mileage may vary. For example, France, downright militant about what qualifies as canonical French.
Noel Brown
Right? And, like, they both, like, want you to try to speak their language, but also will mock you relentlessly when you do it poorly.
Ben Bollen
Oh. Oh, man. Or when you do it. Okay, but you got a weird. You got a weird us cadence to you. Oh, also, no, we have to shout this out. We're pulling a lot of research for this episode from a Brain Stuff video I wrote years and years ago, which features none other than the Quister, our.
Noel Brown
Nemesis, giant strip, AKA the Quister. And do check out those Brainstuff videos. They still are alive and well on the Internet. And Brainstuff, the Podcast, hosted by Lauren Vogelbaum, is still very much an ongoing concern, harkening back to our roots in the How Stuff Works universe.
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Ben Bollen
As she would say, that's actual facts.
Noel Brown
Actual facts, yeah.
Ben Bollen
So, no. How would we define a word?
Noel Brown
Let's see. Well, Merriam Webster defines. This is like our like, like seventh grade project, you know, presentation Miriam, as a speech sound or series of speech sounds that symbolize and communicate a meaning, usually without being divisible into smaller units capable of independent use. That's a. That's a noodle baker right there.
Ben Bollen
I don't think that's a middle school way to begin. I do think.
Noel Brown
Well, no, Merriam Webster defines. It's the old joke. This is an incredible quote.
Ben Bollen
I do think it is, as you said, a noodle baker. And I like that turn or phrase. We said we were going. Meta, folks. So for what. What are they saying here? They're saying, take the word W O, R, D. You cannot break that down into a sensible series of other words or meaning. Like if you broke it up and it was just O and then RD by themselves, maybe they're abbreviations for something or they're nonsense entirely.
Noel Brown
And those would be the aforementioned phonemes. Right? The little nuggets that comprise a word, the sounds that make it up.
Ben Bollen
Just so we can make series of sounds that function by the rules of a specific language. And people who understand that language can. Might almost intuitively understand what you're saying. It's kind of like if you speak English and you watch a Scandinavian film or something from the Low Countries, or you're just hanging out in Brussels or something to that effect, you'll hear people speaking and you can almost get what they're saying.
Noel Brown
Absolutely. Even Danish versus German, things like that. There's a lot of shared. You know, I'm sorry, I'm hearkening back again to my trip to Denmark recently, but I know German relatively well. Ish enough to get by. And there's enough shared words or words that are very similar and mean similar things, but are spelled slightly different, maybe have a few more J's in them or whatever. It's really easy to read street signs and the typical things walking around, just kind of using context clues and history.
Ben Bollen
Has proven time and time again that there's a reason for that, that sort of connectivity. Centuries pass and later, language speakers will find a word. They'll put their own spin on it, they'll remix it, not just for pronunciation, but also for the spelling, for the meaning. Whatever best suits their environment and their ability to communicate. This is one of our favorite sciences and etymology, all about this stuff. It also makes Noel, Max, and yours truly Supes fun at parties.
Noel Brown
Yeah. And it makes us, you know, it just gives us the warm fuzzies, something that we enjoy. And this is of course, not to be confused with entomology, which is the study of insects.
Ben Bollen
I like the pause there.
Noel Brown
I know, I'm sorry. On paper, it's like just one letter away.
Ben Bollen
Right, right, right. And we have all found ourselves one letter away at some point.
Noel Brown
Well, one letter away from one word meaning in one language, something completely different, potentially mega offensive in another.
Ben Bollen
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Noel Brown
You know what you did, and they know, and you're on a list.
Ben Bollen
Everyone knows. Hopefully it's a good list. It's a nice and naughty, naughty situation.
Noel Brown
And of course, all of this applies to phrases as well. There are, you know, certain phrases, figures of speech. We went through a thing recently where we were trying to translate some of our podcasts into other languages. And you realize that the job of a good translator is not only these one to one translations. It's how to recommunicate the intent and the meaning of one of these figures of speech that without the cultural context, it's gonna be meaningless. So you have to find like a one to one or something at least adjacent in the other language and culture to make it make any kind of sense.
Ben Bollen
Absolutely. Man. This is one of my favorite translators once said, it's a marriage between accuracy and poetry.
Noel Brown
Amelia, I knew you were going. That makes exactly. There's an interpretation to it, and it requires a certain nuance and ability to kind of read between the lines and really paint a picture.
Ben Bollen
Yeah. And allow us to be honest, folks, we are not really here to analyze the in the weeds sociopolitical mechanisms of communication or the mechanics, I should say English. But we do know the question on everyone's mind. How do I, you're saying, make up a word and then make it official.
Noel Brown
It's a very good question, Ben, one that I'm really hoping that you're going to help us answer in this episode. Otherwise it's going to be a real letdown.
Ben Bollen
All right. Okay. I'll hop on the tightrope with you, man. We're here together. Let's play along at home. All right, everybody in your head, make up a word. Noel, Max, Ben, you at home, make up a word.
Noel Brown
Can we also acknowledge that that's pretty difficult thing to do?
Ben Bollen
You think so?
Noel Brown
I kind of do. Because if you I mean, my mind immediately jumps to just like nonsense words. And even I have a collection and lexicon of nonsense words already in my head. So I'm having a real hard time without just grunting and making guttural noises to actually come up with a discrete new word.
Ben Bollen
Max, what do you got?
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Noel Brown
But see, Flargle's been done. We know Flargle exists. Flargle exists in the Futurama universe. Somewhat.
Ben Bollen
Some.
Noel Brown
You know.
Max Williams
Prove it. Prove it, Noel.
Noel Brown
I will, with the quick cursory Google.
Ben Bollen
No, we're keeping all of this in.
Noel Brown
Florigal, as we should from the counterfeit cat universe is an anthropomorphic kind of little booger looking purple alien creature that.
Max Williams
Sounds like a proper noun, not an actual word.
Noel Brown
Bro, you can get a mug. Oh, Flargle's in the urban dictionary, dude.
Max Williams
Okay, now I'm on Noel's side. Maybe it is harder to do it.
Noel Brown
It's tough, that's all I'm saying. For it to actually be, you know, Flargle Snorpeldork, space attorney.
Ben Bollen
Right. Okay.
Noel Brown
Everybody remembers Flarpel. Snorkel, Dork, Flargold.
Ben Bollen
Excuse me? Blaverdashery.
Noel Brown
See, but you just took haberdashery and changed hab to blav.
Ben Bollen
Okay, fair point.
Noel Brown
I'm not saying it's impossible.
Ben Bollen
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Noel Brown
I just say it again.
Ben Bollen
Quinauntive.
Noel Brown
And I like what you did there because you combine a lot of consonants and vowel y things to make it sounds like English. It does sound like English, but I would argue that that one is probably not going to come up on a cursory Google. You win this round.
Ben Bollen
Ben Bolden. No, Crafty devil. We're playing together.
Noel Brown
Can we at least acknowledge that it's not easy?
Ben Bollen
It is very much not easy. I'm with you there. And like we were saying, don't be surprised if you run into a Flargo moment if the word you made up already exists in some form. And by the way, Max, nice one on differentiating between a proper noun and utility word. Right.
Noel Brown
Can I also just say in my floral Google, which is fun to say in and of itself. I found like X post says, tried making a new word. I call it floral.
Ben Bollen
You lose, Max.
Max Williams
I was just like, trying to. Trying to like, you know, bring out my inner Rick and Morty 100. Yes, exactly.
Ben Bollen
And they've got the shlomis.
Noel Brown
Yes, of course.
Ben Bollen
So, as you can tell, folks, we're running into the same difficulties trying to make up a new word that means Something and is not also inherently hilarious to us. Communication is arguably one of the first big three games. The other two are survival and reproduction. But no riddle is this. How does a made up word like the Beautiful Ones all three of us just described, how does it become quote, unquote real or accepted?
Noel Brown
Well, I guess it depends on the context of the question. Like are we talking about how in the history of the human race a word becomes real in terms of its usage or are we talking about officially on paper, recognized by some governing body of language, like in the Phantom Tollbooth, does a word become quote unquote accepted? Because I think whichever one we're talking about, the answer is it depends, right?
Ben Bollen
Oh man, you're good at this. I missed when we had. I missed you guys when we weren't recording.
Noel Brown
Oh yeah. Honestly dude, it's been really great to have the break because not to say that I was getting burnt out or anything like that, but it's just we do a lot of this and having that break and that reset. I've just been really fired up to do this with y' all and excited to be here. So feeling is mutual.
Ben Bollen
It's just such a great question you posed because in the days of old, in the empires of old, this was so ad hoc. Like what you just heard us do, folks, is what really happened throughout history. Most people could not read a written language and words were drifting in and out of meaning, pronunciation and spelling to a crazy degree. A lot of. A lot of good rulers of various empires were aware of this. So they tried to pull a hammurabi and codify stuff. But some of them actively suppressed the power of literacy and they tried to restrict.
Noel Brown
Why would they do that? I don't know. I can't think of a logical reason why you'd want to keep people dumb.
Ben Bollen
I don't have a single flargle for it.
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Ben Bollen
Wait, what is a Flargle again?
Noel Brown
Flargle Bargle.
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Noel Brown
It's a. It's a cartoon character, but it's also just like. It is a clear example of, like, clearly the Internet attempting to come up with a new word. There is something called Blargle Flargle that is some kind of board game. Zombie Edition.
Max Williams
It says here, Ben, the long story short is Flargle's whatever you need it to be.
Noel Brown
Six, seven.
Ben Bollen
Oh, man, you guys are so chill. I love this.
Noel Brown
That's a song. Blargle Flargle Zombie Edition. This is the. The intro to the song is just Blargle, flargle over and over again and then at the end goes grab. When the day is long and the mind is numb Blargle, flargles the words that come no rhyme or reason Just a silly sound Blargle flargle When no thoughts are found.
Ben Bollen
That's crazy that they say no rhyme or reason in a poem that rhymes.
Noel Brown
Yeah.
Ben Bollen
In a pair of words that are.
Noel Brown
Clearly designed around the fact that they rhyme.
Ben Bollen
So the idea of repressing knowledge is definitely Sith Lord stuff. I think we could argue or. Let's throw Max. Max. What's the Star Trek equivalent of a Sith Lord?
Max Williams
I don't know. The Borg, maybe.
Ben Bollen
Yeah.
Max Williams
I mean, but even the board, they.
Noel Brown
Have an imperative, though. It's not like they're mean, they just are this thing, Right?
Ben Bollen
Yeah.
Max Williams
And you could argue the Borg are just kind of what their programming is.
Noel Brown
That's what I mean.
Max Williams
They're just doing. I mean, you look at the character like Hugh from TNG who is just like, you know, we. I will make your life better if you're gonna simulate it. Or maybe that's from a different episode.
Ben Bollen
But still, the board will argue that that's Star Trek. TNG means the Next Generation. True.
Noel Brown
Speaking of all this kind of stuff, shout out to Pluribus. By the way, do check that show out. It incorporates a lot of what we're talking about in terms of hive mind kind of stuff. It's a Very, very, very cool depiction of that kind of sci fi trope. But let's get back on track though. We're talking about suppression of language and the fact that in general, in the days of old, most people couldn't read. So the arbiter of which words became words fell to those in the top top, toppy, top top.
Ben Bollen
Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, you nailed it. This also shows us this longstanding habit of suppressing knowledge, shows us the power of the written word and the power of the book. You know, we've mentioned it before, Noel. Reading something written by your favorite dead author is a lot like necromancy or time travel. And I would say the same with hearing ancient songs.
Noel Brown
Yeah, it's transportive. And one thing you start to see in fascist regimes is the suppression of stories because of how powerful they are to communicate ideas and to change hearts and minds or to put someone in someone else's shoes. It is an absolute superpower.
Ben Bollen
And thankfully, humanity soldiered on through no small numbers of disasters. Some were natural disasters, some were created by people in polity. But now there's not just one system of word adoption, there are several systems. So we have created a word, right? We're still playing along at home. We want legitimacy. How do we get our word in the dictionary is so crazy, man.
Noel Brown
Yeah, I mean, it always makes our list at the end of every year. The Websters or Cambridge or Oxford, rather their word of the year, which I believe this year, in previous years, stuff like Brainrot, which you could argue that combining two existing words together into one word makes a new word. And it is something that was just very much in the zeitgeist. So a lot of this slang and a lot of these words that have ended up in that Toronto slang thing I was talking about earlier are the kinds of things to really start seeing thrown around as quote, unquote, new words.
Ben Bollen
100%.
Noel Brown
There's way more to it than just pop culture y stuff. The lovely folks at Webster Miriam, they've combed through existing literature, right? Like sleuthing for new words, changes in language, new uses.
Ben Bollen
Yeah, yeah. Different dictionaries are going to have their various sort of house rules, methods for selecting words to be included in their newer editions. But they're more or less looking for the same criteria. It's kind of like how 0.6214-ish of a mile is technically 1km. But both of those measurements describe the exact same amount of distance. If you want your word canonical buckaroos, we gotta get it in print. If you want to get a nod from the Oxford English Dictionary. You got.
Noel Brown
There's a fancy boys on the block.
Ben Bollen
Oh, my gosh. They're so fancy. They don't even wear ties, man. They wear cravats.
Noel Brown
Yeah. No, the fanciest.
Ben Bollen
Do you wear a cravat? Have you ever won?
Noel Brown
I don't know the difference between a tie and a cravat, but I'm not gonna lie.
Ben Bollen
It's like I. I feel like it's a fancy. It's like a scarf that goes inside your college.
Noel Brown
What's an ascot?
Ben Bollen
Oh, my gosh.
Noel Brown
What does Fred wearing. Scooby Doo. Is that a cravat or an ascot?
Max Williams
That's an ascot.
Ben Bollen
That's an ascot.
Noel Brown
But he's got a little scarf action going on. So there. I can't be the only one wondering.
Max Williams
I'm on it.
Ben Bollen
All right. Max is going to update us.
Noel Brown
He's pulling up the facts. He is.
Ben Bollen
We're so excited. I love the instrumental version of Max with the facts as well. Man. It's just so hype.
Noel Brown
So shout out to Matt Frederick for composing that absolutely mellifluous bop.
Ben Bollen
Oh, yes, and mellifluous. What a wonderful word, man. So it's around 1857, and the Eggheads over at Oxford have used a reading program ever since then to do what you just described, Noel. To find what they consider use cases, appropriate quotations for each entry in their dictionary.
Noel Brown
Already got me. Think AI is going to start being used for this moving forward, and then it's going to influence the outcome. And yeah, it's like a uro burros kind of situation.
Ben Bollen
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Noel Brown
Just. Just thinking there's. There's kind of no way around it because what you're even describing is reading programs. Yeah, that's, you know, a precursor to all of this stuff.
Ben Bollen
100% pattern recognition. So in the reading program department for OED, we've got 50 lexicographers, and they read almost every possible thing that can be read. And I agree with you. Reluctantly, this probably goes into large language models. At this point, we're not talking just novels, newspapers, should any still exist. We're talking about transcripts from TV and song lyrics and magazines and social media. And now we return with super producer Max.
Max Williams
Give us a. I got some surprises right here. I was not expecting this either, but a. A cravat is kind of an umbrella term that includes things like bow ties, ascots, and actual ties.
Noel Brown
Oh, so there's a Venn diagram situation.
Max Williams
Yeah. Well, so no, like it's actually. It's.
Noel Brown
It's a catch up.
Max Williams
It's okay. It's a flowchart.
Ben Bollen
Yeah, it's like how all mazes are puzzles, but not all puzzles are mazes.
Noel Brown
But in this case, all cr. No, right. Exactly.
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Ben Bollen
Got it.
Max Williams
So, yeah, ties and ascots are both cravats. But just because it's a cravat doesn't mean it's a tie.
Noel Brown
There you go. Love that. Oh, my God.
Ben Bollen
That's the best we got there, guys.
Noel Brown
In a hot minute.
Max Williams
An ascot is a formal necktie worn with a morning dress, tied with a rudimentary knot, worn over the shirt and secured with a pin. It says style cravat. That is from bespoke unit.
Noel Brown
Okay. It's the kind of thing you'd see a Dracula wear.
Ben Bollen
Yes. All right. And we're gonna quit while we're ahead, Max with the facts. Okay, so we're back. We're reading. We're in the reading department. Dream job for some people, nightmare job for others. And while we're reading, Noel, we're on the lookout for the newest words. We see. Toronto slang.
Noel Brown
We do.
Ben Bollen
We send it to our little database.
Noel Brown
Yep. They do a little fact check. Check out the prevalence of the usage. Right. These editors spend a lot of time manually going through this stuff, reading all published materials, checking the automated scans, I guess, of all of this stuff that they find in databases and I imagine online, because that's. Gosh. I mean, that's where most language is curated these days, it would seem. Not most, but if you look at. We're going to get to it at the end. The words of the year, so many of them in the last handful of years have been almost entirely Internet related.
Ben Bollen
Yeah. So like you were saying, the editor that gets this stuff from the database is going to go back toward a specific word and say, how long has it been in use? How popular, how prevalent is this term? For our buddies at Oxford, there's kind of a rule of thumb still a bit ad hoc. We call it the triple five rule. To get into the dictionary, to be considered for that halcyon space, your word has to be in print five times in five different sources over a period of five years. Triple five rule. And Noel, I love what you're pointing out because pre social media, that was a high bar, but now post social media, that's one weird day on Twitter or TikTok.
Noel Brown
Oh, absolutely. And I mean, words come and go as we're going to get to. And now more than ever, because not all words are Slang, of course, all slang are words. And inherent in the idea of slang is that it's a bit of a flash in the pan, and we just blast through those these days.
Ben Bollen
Yeah. And Oxford in particular. I mean, all the major dictionaries, they're doing their best not to be unconsciously repetitive. So when you get a word, you get a word from your database. You're the editor, you say, oh, it's in print five times. Oh, it's from five different sources. Oh, this has been going on for at least five years. Your next step is to check something called the Oxford English Corpus. This is another database. It collects everything published across the Internet. We're talking, like 2.5 billion words of 21st century English, of course, and that's always growing.
Noel Brown
So while the specifics of this process can vary from case to case, there are other dictionaries, of course, that do something very similar as we've already described, like, Merriam Webster has their methods, Cambridge has their methods, et cetera. So this is where you sometimes see. Look, these dictionaries, especially now, they are still kind of online publications, and they're looking to make some headlines. So when they pick that Word of the Year, it's a little bit of a PR move. It's a little bit of a. Like, we're the ones that are defining the zeitgeist this time, you know, and you look at the competing publications, let's call them, and you start to see that I'm trying to kind of differentiate themselves.
Ben Bollen
Oh, yeah, no kidding, man. And I want to lean on you for your. For your German acumen here. The idea of Word of the year began in 1971 in Germany, and they called it Vortes jaris.
Noel Brown
Just means Word of the Year.
Ben Bollen
You nailed it, though.
Noel Brown
Yeah. Thank you. I just tried to get the accent as best I could. It literally translates to word the year des means of the more or less.
Ben Bollen
That's surprising that Germany doesn't have all of it condensed into one crazy phrase.
Noel Brown
Yeah, they certainly do for a lot of concepts like Farfig, Nugent, and, you know, which is one of my favorites, which is like a collective guilt around the Holocaust.
Ben Bollen
Oh, that took a turn.
Noel Brown
Yeah, sorry.
Ben Bollen
It's a perfect example. Yeah, it's my favorite example.
Noel Brown
It's my favorite favorite one. So, to my point earlier, I think a little bit, you can't really capture all the complexity of what happens in the span of a year with a single word. But again, it just goes to show the ways that all of these various organizations are trying to kind of be the one that gets it the closest.
Ben Bollen
And you are so right about the PR aspect. And I would argue it's kind of like dendochronology, folks. Stay tuned.
Noel Brown
Remind me what that means.
Ben Bollen
The study of tree rings.
Noel Brown
That's the one.
Ben Bollen
Yes, of course. Where you see history writ large. If you ever want to be humbled, folks, go get thee to the nearest stump. Yes, get thee to thy nearest stump.
Noel Brown
Don't cut one down, though. Look for one that's already been cut.
Ben Bollen
Figure out which year in the ring you were born as, and then go to the current year. It's humbling when you see a redwood or something like that and remember how long these conversations or these lives continue similar to the English language. Look, let's say we got Flargle in there. We're obviously incredibly excited about our possibilities. We're waking up. We learn one day that the word we created, like flargle or schlop Fizzo. I was on one with that one. Or doppelgang banger. That's inappropriate. Whatever else you created.
Noel Brown
More of a pun, really.
Ben Bollen
More of a pun or a portmanteau.
Noel Brown
I love a portmanteau.
Ben Bollen
So now we're in the oed. The Merriam Webster, Anything but Urban Dictionary. We're riding high. We feel like Kanye west post late graduation. You cannot tell me nothing back when.
Noel Brown
He was still normal. Ish.
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Noel Brown
What is it? What is it? Oh, gosh. I'm not comparing Kanye to Hitler, Although he would do that himself. Norm MacDonald says about Hitler, the more I learn about this guy, the more I don't like him.
Ben Bollen
Right, Norm? Gosh, what a legend. Okay, here's the thing, though. And Noel, I think this is what we were alluding to a bit. You can't get too big for of britches. We have to remember that thousands of new words and new use cases can make it into a dictionary. But every year, those same dictionaries also are going to remove some words like.
Noel Brown
Schlop, fizzo and doppelgangbanger.
Ben Bollen
Right, right. Or for example, it sort of fell.
Noel Brown
Out of fashion, you know?
Ben Bollen
Yeah. They were like, come on, man.
Noel Brown
But Ben, they did have a golden moment. And that moment was 1999.
Ben Bollen
There it was. Yeah. Prince was all over the radio. What a time.
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Ben Bollen
Miriam Webster has cut words in the past. We've got some examples. Stern, forebost, Hodad, Snally Goster.
Noel Brown
That sounds like a Willy Wonka word. Stylopodium.
Ben Bollen
Stylopodium makes sense, right?
Noel Brown
Does it? Is it a type of lectern?
Ben Bollen
Where is it where you put a writing instrument? It's no Snally goster. It's definitely no.
Noel Brown
Stylopodium might well be the little thing you stick your pen in on the like, you know, the clipboard, right? I don't know.
Ben Bollen
Let's see.
Noel Brown
It's just context. Gluing it.
Ben Bollen
Oh, we are totally wrong.
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Ben Bollen
It is an enlargement at the base of the style of flowers in certain plants of the parsley.
Noel Brown
Boring.
Ben Bollen
I know.
Noel Brown
No wonder it got mixed. Yeah, no one was referring to that part. It's just too specific.
Ben Bollen
No one was looking at a bunch of beautiful flowers and going, we should admire the stylopodium.
Noel Brown
Maybe flower scientists were. And that does bring up a point. There are obviously words that are considered more jargon or very, very, very industry focused. Do those make it into the dictionary? Or is there like a separate list of like super niche industry specific, like science words and like, you know, stuff involving a specific industry and by the way, Ben, I completely concur with what you've put here in this outline. We've got to bring back Hodad. Do we know what hodad even meant? I really want to know. Inquiring minds. Is it like a doodad?
Ben Bollen
It's your grandpa's dongle. No, it's vintage surf slang. It's slang. It's someone who Shows up to the beach and has a surfboard but never actually goes.
Noel Brown
That's amazing. Hodad specifically. And there's a. It looks like there's a well known surf shop also called Hodad, which is obviously I'm pretty funny.
Ben Bollen
That reminds me of Ugle with train kids. Anyway, yeah, so we know, we know folks. Max, if you could give us like a sad crowd size. Some words do have to go and that is okay because it may sound cruel to throw these words out, but we have to remember, Noel, you and I have talked about this a lot off air. English is a living language, right? Communication is key, not fancy spelling, et cetera. English. And the people who are speaking it already living language, they're trying to figure out that old technology of communication. What are the first three great games? And that means the dictionaries arguably have to change with that conversation.
Noel Brown
No doubt. And by the way, Hodad's was a. A small chain of burger joints in San Diego, not a surf shop.
Ben Bollen
Are they still open?
Noel Brown
I think so, yeah. Established 1973. Better. Tasty burger.
Ben Bollen
We gotta go get our tasty burgers, man.
Noel Brown
I love a California burger.
Ben Bollen
I do too. They are better. So we, we can't leave you without a dope phrase to step to. Here are, as we've been teasing, words of the year from five major dictionaries across 2025. And folks, we love Noel's point there about how you can see just like tree rings, you can see large patterns of social change just through these phrases over top.
Noel Brown
Yeah. And you are occasionally going to get some doubles. So we'll just go through these respectively Dictionary.com, merriam, Webster, Collins, Oxford and Cambridge to try to just remember the order. We'll probably discuss a little bit, some specific ones. But from 2020, if you can imagine, pandemic, pandemic lockdown. Oxford didn't choose a word because I guess they thought everything was too f.
Ben Bollen
Well, they couldn't get to the office.
Noel Brown
They threw their hands up. Cambridge went with quarantine. So pandemic, pandemic lockdown. Quarantine, what a year.
Ben Bollen
Yeah, go to 2021. We've got allyship vaccine, NFT vax with an X and perseverance from our friends at Cambridge.
Noel Brown
Yeah, that's really positive. Let's keep onwards and upwards. Cambridge, 2022. We've got woman. Oh, come on.
Ben Bollen
Dictionary.com.
Noel Brown
That is hilarious. Is dictionaries.com has got some kind of dumb ones. I'm sorry, I'm not. I'm just saying like every, every Year Woman. Really? I mean that's weird. That's almost insulting. A little.
Ben Bollen
It was there earlier.
Noel Brown
Yeah, 100%. They've been here for years. Don't call it a comeback. Gaslighting is 2022. Kind of the. The year of Me too, definitely. Okay. That's so funny and reductive just to have it be woman.
Ben Bollen
The worst joke about that one by the way is actually it's pronounced Jas. Lighting. It's terrible.
Noel Brown
Perma Crisis. That's relatable. Goblin mode. I remember that one. That's technically two words though. Oxford. I guess you could make it a onesie. And homer. Yeah, there's all these weird little outliers. That's from a Cambridge. Throwing another curveball. What happened in 2023? This is a very AI and starting to get into the brain rot of it all.
Ben Bollen
Yeah. Then we've got hallucinate. Authentic AI Riz. And Cambridge comes in swooping with Dictionary.com and they say also hallucinate word of the year.
Noel Brown
And that's of course referring to the thing AI does when it just makes stuff up to 2024. We've got demure. I had a moment Polarization brat, which I love. Charlie. XCX forever. Brain rot from Oxford. That was the one that made strange news. I think we definitely talked about that on the pod. Something I want you to know. Strange news episode and manifest Cambridge.
Ben Bollen
And then we get to 2025, the most recent year. Dictionary.com says six, seven.
Noel Brown
Those are numbers. Dictionary.com yeah, those are numbers.
Ben Bollen
Six, seven.
Noel Brown
Not even spelled out. They're just the numbers with a dash. I don't. I think that's absurd. We got Slop.
Max Williams
That's Miriam Webster, just Merriam Webster saying what Dictionary.com's worth of the year was.
Ben Bollen
And then we've got Collins with vibe coding. I know, yeah.
Noel Brown
And Parasocial, which is very podcast centric.
Ben Bollen
And Cambridge. That's. That's courtesy of our friends at Cambridge.
Noel Brown
Cambridge is a little more nuanced in their picks, wouldn't you agree?
Ben Bollen
I would absolutely agree.
Noel Brown
I think I like their takes the best in a lot of ways.
Ben Bollen
Oh come on. Perseverance.
Noel Brown
Perseverance is cool. I would love to see the data backing that one up though. It's like what context are people just throwing that word around in 2021?
Ben Bollen
It's the word they wanted to bring to the masses, to be honest. We also know, Noel, that there are regular polls and rankings very non scientific, very self reporting of the quote unquote quote worst or most misliked words in English. I think we all know a couple of characters from this rogues gallery. Moist. Always phlegm.
Noel Brown
Word aversions. Right. Phlegm. Ointment. I would also argue unguent, which is a sister word to ointment. Panties and slurp.
Ben Bollen
Slurp at.
Noel Brown
You don't love slurp, but that would be an onomatopoeia. Slurp describing the sound of sucking up, you know, stuff into your mouth.
Ben Bollen
Right, Right. And we talked a little bit off air with our with our brother in arms, Max about about favorite and non favorite words. You nailed it with word aversion. Noel, do you have a favorite word?
Noel Brown
Flargle.
Ben Bollen
Well done. Oh my gosh. That's it folks. This is our show. Thank you so much for joining us for a very meta episode where we use words to talk about words. Good luck getting into the dictionary. Our last riddle for today is the following. Can you guess the most common word in the English language?
Noel Brown
It's probably an article. I think we talked about this. Is it A or the? Did I get it? Am I close?
Ben Bollen
You nailed it, man. It's the most common word in the English language. You folks are just the best. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. We cannot wait to hang out with you more in the future. Now you often hear us refer to as you show called stuff they don't want you to know which we do with our brothers in arms, Matt, Frederick and Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. You can find us on Netflix.
Noel Brown
It's crazy. It's true. We just started doing that in the new year. Coming to a Netflix tab near you, look for podcasts. I think you can actually already go and subscribe sort of or hit the little bell to get notifications. But yeah, we're doing a new thing on Netflix. They're trying to bring podcasts into the fold. So we're doing two of our weekly episodes, the kind of deep dive topic driven episodes of stuff they don't want you to know as video as well that you can find on Netflix coming very soon.
Ben Bollen
And big, big thanks of course to our super producer, Mr. Max Williams.
Noel Brown
Flargo. Williams.
Ben Bollen
Mr. Max Flargle. Williams. Perfect. Hey Max. Favorite non favorite word. What do you got that Wait.
Max Williams
Favorite non favorite word or just favorite word.
Ben Bollen
Favorite word, non favorite word.
Noel Brown
Andor.
Max Williams
Oh so before and I think Noel wasn't on the call yet, but my favorite word is Q because it is just, it is just like the leftover parts of a word. They're like, ah, let's put a. Let's put a Q and a U and then, I don't know, an E and then what else?
Noel Brown
I can never remember how to spell correctly.
Max Williams
I think it's the only word in the English language.
Noel Brown
Q, U, E, U, E. Yes.
Max Williams
Four straight vowels.
Ben Bollen
No. You nailed it. No one.
Max Williams
The other one I have is bookkeeper because it is double O, double K, double E, double P in a row.
Noel Brown
You know what they say the most beautiful word in the English language is. Guys.
Ben Bollen
Cellar door.
Noel Brown
Yeah. Donnie Darko forever guys.
Ben Bollen
This is just such a weird language. The English language is spoken today as a non consensus eventual game of piracy and improv. And thank you for sailing the high linguistic seas with us. Big, big thanks of course to Jonathan Strickland, AKA the Quizzter, a fellow etymology enthusiast.
Noel Brown
Long may he reign over his fiefdom of lies. That was good.
Ben Bollen
Big thanks to Dr. Rachel Big Spinach. Lance AJ, Bahamas, Jacob. Who else?
Noel Brown
Christopher Osiota. Steve Shepko here in spirit, of course. And you, Ben. What a great research doc this was. We'll be coming back soon with some more ridiculous history for all of you fine people out there. We'll see you next time, folks. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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Podcast: Ridiculous History (iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: Ben Bowlin & Noel Brown
Date: January 15, 2026
In this lively, meta episode, Ben and Noel get gloriously lost in the question: What makes a word “a word”? They joyfully trace the history, mechanics, and quirks of language invention and official adoption, from human tribes naming the sky to the Oxford English Dictionary’s (OED) rigorous vetting criteria. Along the way, they wax philosophical about language as a technology, the chaos of slang, and the surprising difficulty of coining truly new words.
Memorable Word Inventions:
Host Banter Highlights
The hosts run through "word of the year" picks over the last several years across major dictionaries (Dictionary.com, Merriam-Webster, Collins, Oxford, Cambridge), with much laughter at the sometimes odd choices:
Insight:
Words of the Year are both reflections of collective consciousness and PR tools for dictionaries. “It's a little bit of a PR move... like, we're the ones that are defining the zeitgeist this time.” (Noel, 37:44)
Just as importantly, trending language provides a kind of “tree ring” history of society. (“It's kind of like dendochronology... the study of tree rings.” – Ben, 39:01)
Ben and Noel keep things playful, delighting in digressions, oddball words, and linguistic trivia. Their tone is warm, openly nerdy, and self-deprecating (“It also makes Noel, Max, and yours truly Supes fun at parties.” – Ben, 13:56).
Recommended for: Language nerds, history buffs, etymology enthusiasts, writers, and anyone who’s ever wondered where words come from—or tried to make one up.
For further listening, check out Stuff You Should Know’s Esperanto episode, or the podcast Pluribus for a deep dive into hive-mind sci-fi.