CFP Quarterfinals Live Reactions

Summary

Ringer Tailgate: CFP Quarterfinals Live Reactions

Date: January 2, 2026
Hosts: Van Lathan, Joel Anderson, Tate Frazier

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Episode Overview

This live edition of Ringer Tailgate recaps an action-packed day of College Football Playoff (CFP) quarterfinals—a historic slate marked by upsets, blowouts, and shifting narratives for some of the sport’s biggest brands. Van, Joel, and Tate bring their trademark blend of sharp analysis and irreverent banter, diving into the shocking demise of Alabama, Miami’s revitalization, coaching legacies, the fate of blue bloods, and the chaos of live reactions as the games unfold.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Vibes and Banter ([00:43]–[07:53])

• The crew kicks off with festive energy—Tate notes the return from holidays and a stacked lineup of games.
• Joel enters with a TCU cheer: “Riff. Ram Wazoo. Give them hell, TCU.” Confusion about the meaning/composition of the cheer ensues, setting a fun, chaotic tone ([01:25]–[02:49]).
• Banter threads in TCU’s Alamo Bowl win over USC as a “signature” for the program, with Joel defending TCU’s historical wins and the importance of bowl games for school pride ([03:27]–[06:29]).

2. Breaking Down the Schools and Bowl Culture ([06:34]–[07:53])

• Tangent into Missouri City (Mo City), Houston—for its cultural contributions (Travis Scott, Beyoncé) and college sports alumni.

3. One Big Reaction: Quarterfinals Recap ([07:54]–[12:25])

Miami vs. Ohio State: Miami's Toughness, Ohio State’s "Softness"

• Van’s Take: Miami “cut Ohio State’s nuts.” Highlights Miami’s dominance in the trenches, their physical run game, and Ohio State’s inability to match physicality—“I kept waiting when the toughness for Ohio State was going to show in the game... never came.” ([08:31]–[10:57])
• Joel echoes: Miami’s D-line (Mesidor, Reuben Bain) dominated, while Ohio State got outmuscled yet again when facing elite fronts ([10:57]–[12:25]).

Notable Quote – Van Lathan ([09:18])

“They just got into a situation where they can’t block and tackle as well as the other guys ... their will kind of got taken from them.”

Ryan Day’s Playcalling:

• Tate and Joel question why Day kept playcalling duties over Brian Hartline, noting the historical rarity of a play-calling head coach winning a national title and critiquing Day’s “conservative” approach ([12:25]–[15:17]).
• Detailed play breakdowns, e.g., the game-altering pick-six Miami recorded, displaying how Miami's film prep and aggression paid dividends ([15:55]–[16:19]).

Miami’s Swagger & The U Nostalgia

• Props for Carson Beck’s gritty game management even amid Miami turnovers and chaos—contrasts Beck’s “veteran” poise with Ohio State’s redshirt freshman QB’s tentativeness.
• Tate and Joel relive Miami’s cultural moment: Michael Irvin, Ray Lewis on the sideline, Jimmy Johnson postgame. Miami’s old-school bravado and “the U is here” messaging, but Cristobal refuses to say “The U is back.” ([21:22]–[21:57])

Memorable Moment – Michael Irvin Antics ([21:57]–[24:41])

“Michael Irvin put an Ohio State jersey on a Gatorade cooler, and then he whipped it with a belt. ... Since we pointed that out, Michael Irvin has become unhinged to a level that I don’t think I’ve ever seen an alumni fan ever.”

4. “The King is Dead”: Alabama’s Humiliation by Indiana ([25:24]–[41:30])

Dramatic rhetorical reading from Joel ([25:24]–[26:15])

• References classic Alabama bravado and how it was historically realized under Saban, contrasting it with this new era.

“Changing of the Guard”

• Indiana physically bullied Alabama: “That’s Ali vs. Liston is what you just saw on the football field.” ([30:45]–[31:10])
• Historic context—Alabama’s “worst bowl loss since 1991,” Indiana’s first bowl win since the same year ([28:46]–[28:59]).
• Massive stat disparities: Indiana 400+ yards, Bama only 193, 17 rushes for 23 yards; a total reversal of Bama’s legacy as the physical enforcer.

Notable Quote – Van Lathan ([31:43])

“What you saw on that field was the new era of college football showing itself to the entire world. And man, did it show itself. ... At times I felt bad for them. I was like, they are getting their [expletive] destroyed.”

• The Hoosiers’ sideline shows “no tears, no shock” — total expectancy of this victory; Indiana’s program DNA now transformed ([32:07]–[32:43]).
• Discussion about whether this is the greatest coaching turnaround in CFB (hat-tip to Albert Breer’s viral tweet): “One of the worst teams in the history of major college football being number one, in back-to-back games, dominating two of the three biggest brands [Bama, Ohio State].” ([33:33]–[34:01])
• Dissection of Bama’s failed fourth-and-one "cute" play—Van calls it grounds for firing Kalen DeBoer due to cowardly, non-physical decision-making ([35:15]–[36:05]).

Bama Era Over

• A nuanced eulogy for the Bama dynasty—explaining the dynasty was already done post-2020, but now even the “intimidation factor, the entire thing of who you are” is gone ([38:58]–[41:30]).

5. Conference Image & First-Round Byes Debate ([41:30]–[48:22])

• Addressing narrative that “the bye is a curse”—Tate and Joel debunk small-sample takes; examples from past CFP games and why Indiana’s win isn’t explained by “bye rust.”
• Oregon’s defensive dominance in shutting out Texas Tech prompts debate: Was Tech rusty or just outclassed? Oregon’s growing reputation as a strong defensive team; critique of the Big 12’s struggles ([43:47]–[48:22]).

6. Live Game Reactions & Off-the-Cuff Riffs ([48:22]–[51:27])

• Crew gives live commentary (with timestamps throughout) as Sugar Bowl drama unfolds.
• Irreverent social banter: Ole Miss’s uniform and “Confederate” vibes, college football and campus culture, race, historical references ([49:01]–[50:55]).

7. Social Media, “Quote Tweeting” & Community Support ([53:09]–[63:00])

• Interlude on social media etiquette: Joel rails against being quote-tweeted by Reddit CFB, feeling targeted for punchlines. Discussion becomes meta, engaging the live chat to “support Joel” and the etiquette of punch-up vs punch-down quote tweeting ([53:09]–[63:00]).

Notable Quote – Joel Anderson ([55:56])

“That’s some whole ass [expletive] bro, quote-tweeting somebody. ... Don’t talk to me. Just don’t talk. Don’t follow me. We don’t have to do that.”

• Hosts, live chat, and audience join in supporting Joel, with much friendly roasting and inside jokes.

8. Down the Stretch: Sugar Bowl Chaos, Live Drama ([65:37]–[115:47])

• They provide running play-by-play on the wild finish to Georgia vs. Ole Miss, including missed field goals, timeouts, injuries, and last-second dramatics.
• Reflection on bowl game atmospheres and personal histories attending historic games (Sugar Bowl, Rose Bowl, Fiesta).
• Commentary on Lane Kiffin’s transition from Ole Miss to LSU: Kiffin’s public persona, rumors, and his refusal to wear LSU gear until Ole Miss's season is “done”; Van employs an A+ stripper metaphor ([68:30]–[71:11]).
• Banter about personal injuries on the field and postgame disrespect, including “belt-whipping” celebration by Michael Irvin.

9. The Final Four Is Set: Legacy & Blue Bloods Debates ([116:02]–[124:54])

• The CFP Final Four: Miami, Ole Miss, Oregon, Indiana
  • The hosts reflect on how “motley” this semifinal group is, noting the absence of traditional blue bloods and what that says about the new landscape.
• Debates over who now constitutes a “blue blood”—Miami’s claim to fame (five national titles, but two decades since top 10 finish), Oregon’s steady rise but lack of titles, Indiana and Ole Miss as “new money.”
• Comparing “tiers” of elite programs and how conference brands/identities are in flux.

Notable Quote – Van Lathan ([119:03])

“So you can’t be a blue blood, right? If you don’t have any national championships. Impossible. ... This is the first time in these final fours that there’s not a blue blood.”

• Van, Tate, and Joel agree this is “the most interesting Final Four you could have,” highlighting its cross-country regional diversity and underdog stories ([124:33]–[125:10]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “They just got into a situation where they can’t block and tackle as well as the other guys … their will kind of got taken from them.”
  Van Lathan – reflecting on Ohio State’s loss to Miami ([09:18])

• “Michael Irvin put an Ohio State jersey on a Gatorade cooler, and then he whipped it with a belt.”
  Van Lathan – describing Irvin’s wild Miami fandom ([23:49])

• “That’s Ali vs. Liston is what you just saw on the football field. … I felt bad for them. I was like, they are getting their [expletive] destroyed.”
  Van Lathan – after Indiana’s thrashing of Alabama ([31:43])

• “That’s the type of shit that would make me fire Kaylin DeBoer.”
  Van Lathan – on Alabama’s “cute” fourth-down play ([35:19])

• “The Alabama dynasty was already over. ... This is their reputation being over. And that’s a different thing.”
  Van Lathan ([38:58]–[41:30])

• “That’s some whole ass [expletive] bro, quote-tweeting somebody. ... Don’t talk to me. Just don’t talk. Don’t follow me. We don’t have to do that.”
  Joel Anderson – on social media “infractions” ([55:56])

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Game-Specific Segment Timestamps

Opening banter, cheer dispute:
[01:25]–[02:49]

TCU/Alamo Bowl win banter:
[03:27]–[06:29]

Miami vs. Ohio State rundown and analysis:
[08:31]–[21:57]

Alabama vs. Indiana dramatic breakdown:
[25:24]–[41:30]

Oregon–Texas Tech, Big 12 struggles:
[42:41]–[48:22]

Live Sugar Bowl reactions:
[65:37]–[116:02]

Final Four scenario & blue bloods debate:
[116:02]–[124:54]

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Tone & Style

As ever, the show is fast, loose, and unapologetically honest, mixing high-level football IQ with irreverent humor, real-time roasts, and the chaos of live reactions. Listeners are as likely to hear deep Xs and Os as they are to get a spirited rundown of college football Twitter etiquette, veteran fan storytelling, and debate over conference pride or “blue blood” legitimacy.

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Takeaways for Non-listeners

• Miami and Indiana’s upsets signal a new CFB order—physical football, not just recruiting stars, is back.
• Alabama’s reputation and intimidation factor are officially dead; Indiana established a new, gritty DNA.
• Ohio State lost their edge physically and mentally to Miami—same old “soft in the trenches” narrative persists.
• The Big 12’s struggles continue, Oregon’s defense looks elite, but blue bloods are MIA in the semifinals.
• The Final Four is a “motley crew”: Miami, Ole Miss, Oregon, Indiana—no dominant brand, just great stories.
• Show’s best: Real-time reactions, playful fights over tradition, banter about Michael Irvin’s antics, and passionate debates about what truly makes a “blue blood.”

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For next week: The Tailgate crew will be live, previewing the wackiest Final Four in CFP history. Get ready for more chaos, more analysis, and plenty more “raising the roof” on college football’s new normal.

Transcript

[Tate]

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[Tate]

Oh, yeah. Welcome back to Ringer Tailgate. It is a live edition of the show. Van has got the logo in the background. Joel's got the TCU sweatshirt on. And we got a lot of football to talk about. We got CFP quarterfinals coverage. We're ready to raise the roof. Let's get it going. Van Lathan. What's up, Van? How you doing, man?

[Van Lathan]

What up?

[Joel Anderson]

What up?

[Van Lathan]

What up? What a great day of college football, man. Can't wait to talk about it with my guys.

[Tate]

Yeah, we're fired up. We got an incredible game last night. A lot of conversation, a lot of cultural conversation. Michael Irvin was the star yet again. We'll get to that game for sure. Obviously, the shocking events of today. Alabama, the king is dead. It seems like we'll talk about that as well. But first and foremost, let's say what's up to Joel Anderson. Joel. What's up, dude?

[Joel Anderson]

Man. Riff. Ram Wazoo. Give them hell. Tcu. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, y'.

[Van Lathan]

All.

[Joel Anderson]

Did y' all see that Alamo?

[Tate]

That is true. Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

What is it? What is it? What's the thing again? What is it?

[Joel Anderson]

Riff. Ram Wazoo. Give them hell, tcu.

[Tate]

Why is Wazoo in there?

[Joel Anderson]

Don't. No idea. Don't know.

[Tate]

Maybe there's like a little.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, y'.

[Van Lathan]

All. Y' all give props to another school. And y'. All. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Joel Anderson]

What do we.

[Van Lathan]

You on some different. I'm saying you said riffram wazoo. What the wazoo got to do with it?

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, it's the wazoo. It's like W, A, Z, O, O. Like two different words. It's not like W, A white. I mean, my school is. My school was 2% black when I was there.

[Tate]

Yes, I. I looked it up. It is not Wazoo. It's Riff Rambazu. B, A, H, Z, O, O.

[Joel Anderson]

So why did you come in why did you come in?

[Tate]

I'm just trying to help you understand. Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

What was the point of that? You all are gonna have to.

[Tate]

It's so many orders and omissions.

[Joel Anderson]

At some point, you guys are gonna have to stand up for me, man. You're gonna have to have my back on one thing.

[Tate]

Stand up for yourself.

[Van Lathan]

You came in and you said, riff, Ram, Wazoo. And you confused Tate. Me, because me and Tater, like, why would Wazoo be in there? But it's Bazoo.

[Tate]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Your own.

[Tate]

I also looked it up to see why that is. And AI says a classic nonsensical cheer from Texas Christian University. Nonsensical.

[Joel Anderson]

It does not say that. Did this not say that? I'm not looking it up. I don't have time.

[Tate]

We don't have to look it up.

[Joel Anderson]

Well, I'm not allowed. I'm not allowed to look at the computer or chats or anything while we.

[Tate]

Yeah, we do want to shout out before we get into the show. Shout out to the chat, everybody. All the tailgate fans out there that are in the chat, that are locked in, that are excited to see Joel's reaction to the Alamo Bowl. We can talk. Talk about that at some point. 3rd and 20. An incredible play for the TCU horn frogs. USC spiraling at this moment. But let's start with spiraling.

[Joel Anderson]

Just because they lost to tcu, they just got the ass.

[Tate]

You said that. You said it was a signature win for the program.

[Joel Anderson]

Say that. We've had a lot of signatures.

[Tate]

Dan, can I get a secondary?

[Joel Anderson]

Something UNC wouldn't know about. Has not had in. In this decade. Go ahead.

[Van Lathan]

So LSU had LSU beat Alabama. LSU beatle Alabama. First year LSU beat on my. We've had signature wins. Here's the deal.

[Joel Anderson]

Ole Miss.

[Van Lathan]

The thing is, you said that it was. We'll have to do what we do, which is take your words and use them on the show. You said that it would be a big deal, a big win. It's a nice for TCU to beat SC because Scott is a blue blood ish type of school in college football. You said that on the show, which is fair.

[Tate]

I think it's a good point.

[Joel Anderson]

A lot of signature wins. Ruben T. 81. Oh, I guess beating Michigan in the semifinal. Not a signature win. Not beating ole miss in 2014. Signature win. Beating Texas eight or 12 years that they were in the Big 12. Not a signature win. You know. Okay, my bad. You got. Those are signature wins. It's not a signature win when TC don't Do it.

[Van Lathan]

I never said. You are the one who said that. A victory over USC in the Alamo Bowl.

[Joel Anderson]

Well, I was going.

[Tate]

I'm so glad to be back to the program. I didn't really.

[Van Lathan]

We gotta.

[Joel Anderson]

Look, just play the audio.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah, we gotta play the audio.

[Joel Anderson]

We gotta play the audio.

[Tate]

We'll get free.

[Joel Anderson]

It's a meaningful story. And that, like, it's when, again, TCU has been talked about more for beating USC than it would if we beat Southern Mississippi in a bowl game like we used to in the Mobile bowl days or whatever. Like, it's more meaningful to beat usc. And also because of the way USC responded so obviously like that, that whole little conversation around us winning. Did people expect to tune in tonight and to get so much talk about the Alamo Bowl? They probably did, to be honest.

[Van Lathan]

Well, I mean, yeah, because you.

[Tate]

Right.

[Van Lathan]

To launch this college football show, discussing Maryland, discussing tc, things like that.

[Joel Anderson]

Rough year for them, too.

[Van Lathan]

They probably knew that we would start off with the Alamo bowl, but meanwhile, the College Football Playoff is being played, right?

[Joel Anderson]

That's right. That's right. Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

But hey, but you know what, though? I'm gonna be real. That's. That's a gritty, gutty win by tcu. And you have been on the coach's head this. This entire year, Sonny Dykes. But for him to be able to pull his team together and get them to play up to snuff and go out and win the game, you gotta give him credit.

[Joel Anderson]

And win without Josh Hoover. Like, this is a guy. The quarterback is a guy that basically not paid for Ken Seals. Congratulations to him. But really, I mean, my boy Jerem, man, from Mo City. Just like your boy. Mo City. Mo City helping out TCU again, man. So I'm just. I'm pumped about that. You know, it's. I mean, the bowl season can mean something sometimes, right? Like, and that's the sort of. That's what we do this for. You know, you want to feel good about the people that schools you care about.

[Van Lathan]

What do you think is the biggest contribution of Most City? Like, the most thing that Most city.

[Tate]

Is known for isn't Travis Scott from Most city.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't.

[Van Lathan]

You know, that's what I was about to say is the actual world tragedy, right?

[Joel Anderson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That would be.

[Van Lathan]

No, that's also what I'm saying. Travis Scott, that's the thing that Most City. That's what you guys have brought the world so we can move on tape.

[Joel Anderson]

I mean, Beyonce used to Live in Mo City.

[Tate]

You guys are claiming Beyonce.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, Beyonce. Beyonce did. Used to live in.

[Van Lathan]

Can't claim.

[Joel Anderson]

Sure can. Sure can. Thurman Thomas. Thurman Thomas.

[Van Lathan]

That's. That's one. That's a good one, right?

[Tate]

That's a good one. Let's stick with that one over for Ford.

[Joel Anderson]

Not the only one. TJ Ford over the Super Bowl. College basketball city. Great.

[Tate]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. He would never. Now he would never play because he'd have to compete with LaMelo Ball for time. So never get a chance to shine.

[Joel Anderson]

No, man, you know, you don't. You know, you don't know about those old Willer Ridge basketball teams, bro. Him. Ken, what was Kenny's last name? And then it was Daniel Ewing Jr. Yeah.

[Tate]

Duke.

[Joel Anderson]

Duke. That was a good. Those some good teams.

[Tate]

Yeah, Kenny good guards.

[Joel Anderson]

Can he play the bail in it? Kenny Taylor, he played it Baylor and then he played his last year at Texas. That team was a national champion, man. Wooler is shout out.

[Van Lathan]

Will it race? Shout out to Willard.

[Tate]

Well, this is a nice segue. You mentioned national champions. We're talking about teams that are trying to win the national championship. And let's start here. One big reaction. We had a lot of big moments, a lot of big games, and a lot of big conversations that have happened. You could go with, obviously, the Miami conversation. You could go with the Ohio State conversation. You could go with what Oregon did to Texas Tech and the Big 12. The Big 12 has obviously struggled in the CFP. They only have one win as a conference in the CFP era. So that's a talking point we could get into, obviously, what happened to Alabama, courtesy of Indiana and the Rose bowl today. But one big reaction. I'll start with you, Van. What is your big takeaway from what we've seen so far?

[Van Lathan]

I'm gonna let Joel go ahead and do Alabama because that's gonna be a local conversation. I want to talk about Ohio State and. And Miami. Listen, you guys. Ohio State got their nuts cut again. Yeah, they got it. You guys in the trenches. In the trenches. You guys remember the town when that guy's talking to you. Hey, it's hit your mom. There's two ways you do it, you do it the key. That scene is so rage inducing. I'm sitting there and I'm Ben Affleck. He goes, your mother. You went out there and you're looking for. I did it the chemical way. I gotta give her the taste. And you like. You talk about my mom. That. That dude, that was Miami.

[Tate]

That was Michael Irvin.

[Van Lathan]

That was just a digital chemically in the trenches. And they it when they lose under Ryan Day, the last couple of times we've seen them lose, think about it. We're talking about nut cutting, somebody beating their chest, standing over the carcass of Ohio State. When you look at how they lost to Michigan, when they. You look at how they lost that this game, they got pushed around, couldn't do anything with all of the talent that they have. And they have talent on every level, on every side of the ball. They just got into a situation where they can't block and tackle as well as the other guys. They can run faster, they can fly around, they can throw the ball. They got all the 40 times, all the measurables, but they get into situations and they cannot just block and tackle as well as the other team and they get completely suffocated. I really was surprised. I kept waiting when the toughness for Ohio State was going to show in the game. When they were going to say, all right, we're not getting pushed off the ball. Never came. There was a run that was made a little bit in the middle of the third quarter where it looked like they had some things going. Miami stood up and when it was time for a big boy, grown man drive late in that game to seal it, they just ran the ball directly. Gap, gap, gap. Dead. I could not believe it. Tells me a lot about the DNA of Ohio State as a program right now, obviously an elite program. But when they lose, it's these nut cutting, manhood testing losses. And we gotta talk about it.

[Joel Anderson]

I agree. I mean, the thing is, man, is we knew that if Miami had one chance, it was Ken. These boys block Masador or Ruben Bane. And because, I mean, they would give me.

[Tate]

Came out firing earlier.

[Van Lathan]

They could not block Mezador and Ruben Bane.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, right. And that's how the game came. And they lost exactly in the way that we suspect that they might. And the thing about Ohio State that was interesting is that. And again, it's one of those things. Every time they played against a quality defense, they really struggled to establish the run. They average like 2 yards a game. And they lost to Indiana. They lost two yards. They averaged like two yards a game in the win over Texas. So like anytime we'd seen it, we was like, oh, they actually can't exert their will. They can't exert their dominance or, you know, just take the will out of a team. Like they have to kind of finesse you, beat you with their incredible talent on the edge. But Winning in the. Winning up in. At the. In the trenches, at the line of scrimmage, was always going to be a chore against them. And that's the one. That is the thing that Miami has been built on. When it was. When it was great before and when it's really, really good right now, it's really tough to beat them in the trenches. And so they sort of lost in the expected way. But I hear what Van is saying. If you're an Ohio State fan, it doesn't make you feel good to think, why, why are we inferior to Texas or, you know, Indiana in the trenches? There's no excuse for that. Ohio State can be better than them, and they have been in the past, and I'm assuming they'll fix that this off season.

[Tate]

Yeah, the underlying part of this, too. Sorry to Van and cut you off. Just the Ryan Day calling the plays of it. All. Right. I mean, that was the other part with Heartline on the sideline, but heartline wasn't calling the plays. Ryan Day is calling the plays. Obviously, the last head coach that called plays and won the national championship was Mac Brown in 2005. So it's been 20 years since we've seen that. Van, did you think that played a role, right, Ryan Day having to call the plays and manage the game?

[Van Lathan]

I didn't think he called a particularly good game. You know, I got. Ryan Day is a just a incredibly gifted offensive mind, so I think he knows how to play flow and game flow and all of that stuff, but he didn't call a particularly good game. I. There were points in the game where Miami's pass rush looked to be not as ferocious as it was coming out of the gate. But I think that had more to do with the fact that Miami got a little gassed as the game went on. But then when it was needed for them to step up and make something happen, they stepped up and they made it happen. Look, when saying had time, you know, Jeremiah Smith had a day.

[Tate]

Yeah, he did. He had a great game.

[Van Lathan]

He had a great, great game. They were abusing the secondary. They were doing stuff. But I think of small plays. I think of things that I watch during the game that talk a little bit about the competitive integrity of Ohio State. And I'm not impugning the entire program by any of these observations. I'm just saying you have like a fourth and two or maybe it was a third and two, and you're looking at saying, and he has the opportunity to run and pick up a first down, he's out of time in the pocket, he's flushed a little bit and he throws the ball away. I want people to compare that. I know he's a younger player. First of all, let's go ahead and, you know, admit that he's a younger player. So these are things that he'll learn.

[Tate]

He'Ll see still red shirt freshman, right?

[Van Lathan]

Red shirt freshman. So you got to give him in that, in that, in that regard. But when you look at some of the other games that we saw, when you look at what Mendoza would do to get a first down, when you look at what Carson Beck would do to get a first down, when you look at how some of these players will put their body on the line and all of that type of shit, right? I'm just. It seemed like at times that Ohio State kind of acquiesced to the situation that they were in and they almost came to terms with the fact that Miami was tougher than them. So, yeah, the play calling. Every team has some guy that took some job somewhere. Nobody's playing with their stock weapons all firing. It seems like that, except for maybe Indiana. But I was just surprised as this game went along that I did not see more from Ohio State to say, you know what? We're not losing right now. We're not losing. We're going to step up, we're going to make plays, and nobody's going to be able to beat us right now. It just never happened. As a matter of fact, the opposite happened. Their will kind of got taken from them.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, it's weird too, man, because going back to the play calling thing, do you all think that, like, Ryan Day should take a little bit of criticism? Because, I mean, Brian Hartline was there. Like, if Brian Hartline is going to be there, like, why be disruptive in a situation like that? Like, why not? Again, Brian Hartline is the head coach of USF right now. Right? So that's part of it. But don't you think that they should, you know, like, just especially when you.

[Tate]

Have Oregon as an example where you have Stein calling the plays, right? I mean, that's. There is an example of the same situation happening where a guy is still calling the place for his team. And the pick six to me was really when the moment where I was.

[Joel Anderson]

Like, oh, wow, what a jump.

[Tate]

I mean, that was something they saw on tape.

[Van Lathan]

You know, they saw. They saw that on film. He just.

[Joel Anderson]

I mean, bro, it was funny because there's a moment in the play when I think it's 86 and I don't know if that's clear or whoever. Like, sees Keonte Scott make the jump on the ball and he's like, should I block him?

[Tate]

It was Jeremiah Smith.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, right. And it was just.

[Tate]

He ran right by Smith and Smith.

[Joel Anderson]

Was like, oh, I should have got him. Yeah, man. It just, I mean, he was, it was Travis Hunter esque. And it reminded me, I don't know if with the year that. Yeah, I mean, I guess I don't know if Van was laughing at me, but that's fine. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I saw. It's like a.

[Tate]

Hey, we're allowed to laugh. We're laughing.

[Van Lathan]

Travis Hunters.

[Joel Anderson]

But do you remember the AJ Terrell pick six in the national championship game? Yeah, it was like that. Like, I just, I yelled. I was like, oh, like they're, they're in real trouble now, right? Like when that happened, I was like, oh, they're in trouble like this. They're. They're automatically panicking right now. So. Yeah, man, it. Miami, man.

[Van Lathan]

Can I say something? Can we. I said earlier this year at the beginning of the year that Carson Beck would be dominant this year. Obviously, that, that, that did not happen.

[Tate]

Right.

[Van Lathan]

Hold Van accountable.

[Joel Anderson]

Daniel Van accountable.

[Van Lathan]

But can we give it up for Carson Beck in this game?

[Tate]

Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna raise the roof for him.

[Van Lathan]

I'm gonna raise the roof for Carson Beck in this game.

[Tate]

I was impressed.

[Van Lathan]

Stats like Carson Beck made big throws, but he also made several big runs, drives, extending runs. When everything was covered up on the back end, the. It's not like the, the talent portions of Ohio State's team didn't show up. Like, it was hard to get people open in the back end of that, that secondary. It's a really talented secondary. But when everything was bottled up, Carson Beck just kept putting the pressure on Ohio State defensively by finding little ways to. To. To peel off five, six yards and big third downs to make plays with his feet. He really was the most steadying thing that Miami had to. The run game took over.

[Tate]

And imagine if you told a Miami fan going into this game, just gave them the blind slate of this Malachi. Tony is going to have two fumbles forced by Caleb Downs. Fletcher is going to have a fumble that ends up being a turnover. You would say, okay, well, we definitely lost the game probably by a couple touchdowns. You would assume. So for Carson Beck to be that good and good enough to kind of preserve the offense despite all of those chaotic things that were happening around him, I think that was the most impressive part, it also showed kind of like a veteran quarterback who's been in that experience a lot versus saying who felt like that was the first time, especially in the first half. He played better in the second half, but he felt like he was a little gobsmacked as he kind of got his feet underneath him in this game.

[Joel Anderson]

It's funny because I agree that Carson Beck played well under the circumstances, and he made some great plays. Like, he ran for a first down. On third down, he got. I mean, the shit hit out of him, man. It was like a very brave and courageous play to extend and get that first down. But we talking about a guy that I don't believe is thrown for more than 250 yards combined in the playoffs yet, you know, and I just wonder. Eventually you. You got to think that's going to catch up with them. Like, Miami is, again, extremely talented on the lines. They've kind of got what they need there. But I don't think you can pass for 138 yards, win a national championship unless you know, you're Tommy Frazier in 1994. Nebraska.

[Tate]

This was also a possession game, though. You know, like, this wasn't for. This wasn't for stats. I mean, they were milking the clock the entire time. Knew that every single time that Ohio State was looking at the clock, they were like, damn, this game is getting away from us. And I just thought they did a great job, especially C.J. daniels. We didn't really talk about him as much. He showed up, but he was the. He was the safety net for Carson Beck this entire night. So, I mean, that was the other part. They were. This was a time of possession game all the way through, which is what Chris Stobel, AKA Crystal ball. That's what he wants. It was kind of perfect, right, man, which.

[Van Lathan]

Which it was certainly perfect. They were able to make Ohio State play the game the way that they wanted to play it. They were able to establish the lines of scrimmage and then sort of choke off Ohio State's explosiveness, make them be a little bit more methodical and in that, just wait for their style of football to win the game, which is what happened. And they just. Miami is playing with a tremendous amount of confidence right now, guys. And coming into the playoffs, you know, they. They get in barely, basically, in terms of, I guess, the national sentiment, but they have played like a team that believes that they belong there. They're playing with a tremendous amount of confidence, and they're playing like a team that can be anybody in the country.

[Joel Anderson]

Honestly, man. I mean, they talk some cash after the game, too, man. Like, I just. I've seen some of the videos.

[Tate]

Insane.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, I was.

[Tate]

He would be my number one pick, I think, man.

[Joel Anderson]

I mean, I assume he's gonna be a top 10 pick, but. Yeah, man, they are just. I mean, the. They were talking. It just feels good. I mean, I. I'm not going to get into the. Is the U back thing, because I think the thing about the U when we think about the U, is that they're national champions and the U didn't lose to smu. Right. Obviously, this is a different era, and obviously Miami is still very talented to win the national championship, but this is not that. But it's just cool to have, like, a talk in Miami. They seem good. They got a little swag. And I mean, man, they win another game, they might get to play the national championship game at home, you know?

[Tate]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Crazy.

[Tate]

It is crazy. And I did like that crystal ball will not say the U is back. Every time they try to say the U is back to him, he keeps, like, saying it different. He's like, the U is here. He said, the U is moving on. The U is doing all right. He never says the U is back. Because I think he even. He is sick of that kind of conversation. It was also cool to see Jimmy Johnson after the game when Cristobal is doing the interview, and Jimmy Johnson's across from him, and he's, like, talking back and forth. You got Ray Lewis on the sideline with Michael Irvin. If you're a Miami fan, it just kind of was. It stroked all the, you know, the nostalgia points that you wanted. So it was a good night for the Miami Hurricane.

[Van Lathan]

I like to say something about this. You know, our. Early on, we made some jokes about Michael Irvin and how he was acting when he was cranking the siren. Now, listen, guys, I want to go back to this, and we can put that video in later of him cranking the siren. He was cranking the sign like he had a lot of energy. And we were basically alluding to the fact that maybe Michael Irvin down in South Florida had a little bit of extra energy and cranking the siren. All right? We said that. We joked, and y' all went so woke on us. Yeah, y' all went nuts, man. Michael Irvin, everyone got.

[Joel Anderson]

His wife is ill. He's trying to live his life. He's almost.

[Van Lathan]

He's getting his life.

[Joel Anderson]

Mama needs. Mama needs a life, too.

[Van Lathan]

Meanwhile, since. Since we pointed that out, Michael Irvin has become unhinged to a level that I don't think I've ever seen an alumni fan ever. Do you remember when Matthew McConaughey was hanging around in Texas games, jumping up and down and doing calisthenics like he was about to run out there and make a tackle? We haven't even seen him in years. They must not like him no more. But. But now we have Michael Irvin, who is also shredded. Right at his age.

[Joel Anderson]

Dog bro has an eight pack, man.

[Tate]

When he took the belt off, I was like, damn, Michael Irvin should play.

[Joel Anderson]

Like, he want. He wanted that torso.

[Van Lathan]

He took the belt off and he whipped a Gatorade. He whipped the Gatorade bottom with the.

[Tate]

Ohio State jersey on.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah, the cooler. He whipped. The cooler. He put. I want you guys to understand, this is what happened since you guys got at us for us saying that maybe Michael Irvin was high. Michael Irvin put Ohio State jersey on a Gatorade cooler, and then he whipped it with a belt. Okay?

[Tate]

His own belt.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

So just chill, man. Everybody's saying it. Everybody's having fun. People was posting that Elmo Meme. He's having a great time. We're not talking down on the brother, but God damn, Mike is going hard. I'm concerned for him, man. I'm like, so. So I. But. But I'm also super happy.

[Tate]

I hope I'm happy for him.

[Joel Anderson]

Hope. Hope.

[Van Lathan]

I need to get in much better shape, but I hope to be.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

On fire about LSU when I'm almost 60 years old.

[Tate]

You also want to have that lust for life, you know? Yeah, I. I love to see him care that much about Miami football. Like, I. I just. It makes you feel special, you know, it makes you feel like it means something. And he's turned it. Like, there was a clip of him on the sideline where he's talking, and then I just saw someone was like, he's not even talking to anybody. He's just, like, talking to the world. The powers that be, just amazing.

[Joel Anderson]

He's. I mean, that is. Dude, is. Is. It's a lot. For a lot of people, if they did it, it would come off as performative. But that is. No, that is how Michael Irvin became Michael Irvin, you know?

[Van Lathan]

Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Right. How he was the alpha in the Cane's locker room. In the Dallas Cowboys locker room. And to be that kind of a dude, you have to be a special kind of a guy. So, yeah, props to Michael Irvin and the Canes. Man, it's good to see Them. It's good to see them back a little bit.

[Tate]

Yeah. I just love all the stories, too, from the Jimmy Johnson era that come back around the 747. You know, I will. 47. All that sort of stuff. It's all good. But, yeah, Ohio State got their nuts cut, and that is a bit of a Buckeyes joke, so. I like that. Van Joel, one big reaction for you, and I'm sure it's about Alabama because, boy, am I still reeling from watching that game.

[Joel Anderson]

So do you guys mind if I do a dramatic reading for a second?

[Tate]

Yeah, I would love it. I know that the Reddit CFB won't like it, but we gotta talk about.

[Joel Anderson]

We're gonna talk. We can talk about. That's fine. I'm not worried about that. All right, here we go. Are y' all ready?

[Van Lathan]

Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Okay. Up. Thing about is they don't piss me off. The man on the field gotta see me. I'm gonna choke his ass out from snap the whistle. It ain't my fault. He's the next man on the schedule. We Bama, that's what we do. They talk that shit because they scared. We ain't talking no shit. That's the routine. That's how we do it. That will not change today. I promise you that. They may look like they want it, but I guarantee you they don't want it. I'm a let him know he don't want it from me.

[Tate]

Is this Paul Fine Bomb?

[Joel Anderson]

And it's Paul Fine Bomb. Strangely enough, that's right. Yeah. No, it was.

[Van Lathan]

It was.

[Joel Anderson]

Those are the words of the former Houston Yates legend, also the alma mater of Felicia Rashad, Debbie Allen and Roland Martin and Bama defensive line star Damian Square. And from what I'm able to tell, that speech came before Bama's game at LSU in 2012, and that was the game. The Tide won 22. I think was 2117. And the reason that speech goes viral is because it speaks to the Deacon. The deepest, darkest depths of the Alabama football soul. When they would just embarrass man, they would physically dominate and humiliate people. They shut out the number one. Look at the thing. Don't. Don't be that way, man. You know what I'm saying? Don't y' all be that way.

[Van Lathan]

What? Who's doing?

[Tate]

I'm with you.

[Joel Anderson]

I'm looking.

[Tate]

I thought listen for the Indiana. Did you hear the person.

[Van Lathan]

I'm waiting. I'm listening to you.

[Joel Anderson]

I heard somebody go.

[Tate]

I think that was. I think he turned his Mic on.

[Joel Anderson]

Don't do that.

[Van Lathan]

The Duke. The Duke is mad because Zoro Momdani got sworn in today. That's a bad day for the Duke.

[Joel Anderson]

But, yeah, man. I mean, see, yeah, that was. That was definitely him. Yeah, we'll stay off. Don't. Come on. Keep it. Leave it to the voice. But here's where we are today, man. So when Damian Squirrel was at Alabama, he won three national championships, and they won six from 202009 to 2020 and finished a season ranked lower than eighth only once over that stretch.

[Tate]

I'd say that's the golden era.

[Joel Anderson]

That is a golden era.

[Van Lathan]

You know, one of.

[Joel Anderson]

In 17 years, Saban lost by more than one score. Only eight times. You know how many times Deboer has done it in two years?

[Van Lathan]

How many?

[Joel Anderson]

Four. So it's over. The king is dead. They are the ones that got choked out today. That. That. I don't remember Alabama getting physically manhandled and humiliated in the way that they used to do Michigan State. You know, that's just not the Bama that I remember. And so I. Look, I think Bama fans are kind of crazy. I. You know, they have an unrealistic standard, I think, for a football team, but that's also what makes them great. But if they're mad today, I kind of get it.

[Tate]

Yeah. Bama's worst bowl law since 1991. The Fiesta bowl against Louisville, 34 to 7. Also Indiana's first bowl win since 1991. So we're talking 35 years since something like this happened in college football.

[Van Lathan]

Ole Miss just scored. The games tightening up a little bit. So 2118, you say. You say that Bama has an unrealistic sander. I had one. And you're right. You're right. And that probably is. I guess I'd say that that's. That more applies to the time before Nick Saban. A couple of the coaches that they ran out. Ran out of time before he got there. But for the most part, during the time of Nick Saban, the standard wasn't unrealistic. The standard was the standard. Yeah. The question is, is it an unrealistic standard now? And the answer is a resounding yes.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Bama today, if I read these stats off to you, which team would you have said had 400 yards? Which team would you have said had 193 yards? Well, I'm telling you, one was Indiana and one was Bama. And Indiana had the 400 average yards per rush. 1.4 yards on the ground.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

1.4 yards on the ground. Bama, we're talking about Derrick Henry, Trent Richardson, Mark Ingram, TJ Yeldin. TJ Yeldin.

[Joel Anderson]

Bo Scarborough.

[Van Lathan]

That Bama. Bo Scarborough. That Bama. 17 rushes, 23 yards against Indiana.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, man.

[Van Lathan]

17 rushes, 23 yards. Their QB knocked out of the game.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Who used to get knocked out of the game? People who were up against Colt McCoy, Anderson and DeAndre Francois.

[Joel Anderson]

Y' all remember Florida State had DeAndre Franco. Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Their quarterback knocked out of the game.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Remember what we talked about before this game? We talked about the fact that Indiana needed to win this game. And I was. Excuse me, I said that the Indiana needed to win this game. What we just saw right here is one of the most remarkable things that's ever happened in sports history. That's the changing of the guard. That's Ali versus Liston is what you just saw on the football field. That is that.

[Joel Anderson]

And when I say that, that's a really good analogy.

[Van Lathan]

I don't mean that Indiana is necessarily Ali. They could be, but I'm not saying.

[Tate]

That they might be.

[Van Lathan]

They might be. But what I'm saying is when Ali beat Liston, you knew that heavyweight boxing was completely different. Liston, the big, strong, tough guy, lost to the precise, confident, hyper athletic killing machine, which is what talked the talk.

[Tate]

Like Signetti, the talk.

[Joel Anderson]

Right.

[Van Lathan]

What you saw on that field was the new era of college football showing itself to the entire world. And man, did it show itself. I hate Alabama more than anyone in the world. At times I felt bad for them. I was like, they are getting their fucking asses destroyed.

[Tate]

It was the. Do something, man.

[Van Lathan]

The last thing I'll say Indiana expected it.

[Joel Anderson]

Yep.

[Van Lathan]

I didn't see any tears on their sideline. I didn't see any jumping up and down. I didn't see any. None of that. Indiana, their blood pressure never went up. Their heart rate didn't seem like it. They went in there and expected that. The standard has completely changed in Indiana. I don't know what Kurt Signetti does to people or does to young men, but whatever he does, that team thinks they could go out right now and beat the LA Rams.

[Joel Anderson]

So Connor, was it Connor that sent this? In our. In our group chat about it was a tweet from Was Dan Revell. Who was it that.

[Tate]

No, I think it was Albert Brer.

[Joel Anderson]

It was Albert Breer who asked.

[Tate]

This is the greatest.

[Joel Anderson]

Albert Breer.

[Tate]

It was a good question.

[Joel Anderson]

It was good question. Was this the greatest coaching turnaround? You know, do we need to dig into that? No, Sorry.

[Van Lathan]

It's fine.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, my God. Stop. It is. It is. It is. Oh, man, I lost my trainer.

[Van Lathan]

Is this the greatest?

[Joel Anderson]

Well, man, I was trying to get to it twice. Are we just going to talk about what I was gonna try to talk about?

[Tate]

Are you gonna talk about what you're.

[Joel Anderson]

Trying to talk about?

[Tate]

What were you trying to talk about? Is the question.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, man. It was about Albert Beer. It was the question that Albert Breer had asked.

[Tate]

Right.

[Joel Anderson]

About Alabama.

[Van Lathan]

Connor put it in the chat.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. If this was the. Yes, thank you. If this was the greatest turnaround in sports history. And at first I thought he said the greatest turnaround in CFB history. And I was like, oh, yeah. There's nothing like this. You're literally talking about the. One of the very worst teams in the history of major college football being number one in dominating, like in back to back games. Two of the three biggest brands in the sport, Alabama and Ohio State.

[Tate]

Right in the trenches.

[Joel Anderson]

In the trenches. And so.

[Tate]

But then like with fluke plays or like some spread offense, this was.

[Van Lathan]

This wasn't Boise State, Oklahoma. Right where they got schemed up or any. This was. Come here, little man. Yeah, get on my.

[Joel Anderson]

I'm here, little man.

[Van Lathan]

Come here, little guy. Get on my knee. Feel the force of daddy's love.

[Joel Anderson]

I like freak Slaything Junior.

[Van Lathan]

We freak is what I'm talking about.

[Tate]

Didn't you think that the example, what you're saying, Van, was the fourth and one, right, Where Bama has the ball. Fourth and one. They're on their side of the field and they're basically trying to get them to jump offside. And Signetti is disgusted that they thought that they would be undisciplined enough to even think about the idea of jumping off sides. Alabama calls a timeout, you assume they run the punt unit back out there instead, because it's a bit of a chess match or a peacock and whatever you want to call it, they say, okay, send the offense back out there. But then there's. They were scared of Indiana's D line enough so that they ran a trick play to Jeremy Bernard. Yeah, they were cute. Instead of just trying to get one yard, that was to me was like, that's the game.

[Joel Anderson]

That's.

[Van Lathan]

Y' all want to hear Van Lathan's overreaction of the pot?

[Joel Anderson]

Okay.

[Van Lathan]

That's the type of shit that would make me fire Kaylin deboer.

[Joel Anderson]

Ooh.

[Tate]

You know why that's weak?

[Van Lathan]

Because that is a game of chicken between the Two head coaches.

[Tate]

100%.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

And that is a game of chicken. Old school game of chicken between the two head coaches and fucking Kurt signetti. Embarrassed Kaylin DeBoer.

[Tate]

He said line him up.

[Van Lathan]

No, he said don't do none of that.

[Joel Anderson]

Nah, don't.

[Van Lathan]

No, no, no, no.

[Joel Anderson]

We're not.

[Van Lathan]

Line it up right here and go. We not jumping off sides. If you want the yard, you gonna have to go get it. We not scared of y'.

[Joel Anderson]

All.

[Van Lathan]

We not gonna jump off sides and give y' all the yard. If you want the yard, you gotta go get it. And rather than lining up heavy, getting jumbo and saying, okay, they tried to do the flame flicker flicky.

[Tate]

Try to be cute. Yeah, try to be cute.

[Van Lathan]

And got embarrassed. I'm like, nah, that's embarrassing.

[Tate]

That was the game.

[Joel Anderson]

That was really why they run that screen to Kaden Proctor again, you know, I mean, they're looking for some cute shit to do.

[Tate]

Proctor was getting work today.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah, man, he got over. So the whole thing is like, I'm looking at it. I'm all day long in college football. I saw people put it on the line and just get their hearts taken. And that's what indie Indiana, the Hoosiers, the Fighting Antoine Randalls, they did that to Alabama.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, man, I know.

[Tate]

I still can't even believe it. Like, as I was watching it live, you just felt like at some point Alabama would have an answer. But the more you watch, it's like, okay, well, Indiana's going to get five yards at worse on their first down play, running the ball. And then from there they're in plus territory, basically. And Mendoza was incredible. I mean, they played that soft defense off of those receivers on the outside in the boundary, and he just picked them apart every single time. He's like, oh, you're going to give me seven yards, I'll take that. And now you're going to have to make a tackle. And they got tired of tackling and the offense had no answer. And again, that's. That's what Bama used to do to people. That's why it was like a mirrored image.

[Joel Anderson]

We really only thought that Alabama had a chance in this game because they're Alabama. Right. I mean, I guess the thing is, I mean, they did qualify for the quarterfinals, but, like, they have not been able to establish the run. They have one of the worst pass rushes in college football. Like, they were 124th score wise, according to PFF. So there's a lot of things they don't do well. Right. And they were a very flawed team. And Yet a lot of people, you know, a substantial enough amount said, oh, man, Alabama, man, they still got the talent over, over Indiana. They're not going to, there's no, Indiana's not going to be able to beat them. And I mean, they, I mean, they beat their ass, man. You know, this happens to every. Again, every great dynasty ends with a loss like that. Like, you remember when was. It was like Miami, the first dynasty, when they lost like 29 to nothing to the Desert Storm Arizona team. This was like after the Erickson and Jump Jimmy Johnson years, they lost like 29 to nothing to Arizona. It was like, damn, man, I guess Miami really ain't good no more. Or when like Nebraska lost to Colorado, like 62 to 36 is like 20 years ago. And this running back named Chris Brown ran for like 250 yards.

[Van Lathan]

I remember that.

[Joel Anderson]

Brown, yeah, he was like a third round pick. Went to the 10 Titans and, you know, paint out the league. But he was the best he had ever been that day. And it was like, okay, Nebraska's done, like, they're just, they're not. Then they went, they made it to the national championship game and then Miami showed them again, oh, y' all don't belong at this level. And then USC when they lost to Stanford, when Jim Harbaugh was there, you know, like a 40.6, it was like, eventually the dynasty ends. And I feel like today's books on that.

[Van Lathan]

So let me tell you something. The Alabama dynasty was already over.

[Joel Anderson]

Right? Right.

[Van Lathan]

That's the thing. Alabama won their last national championship, I think was 2020, the year after LSU. Right. So the Alabama dynasty was already over. The, the power in the SEC had already shifted to Georgia and then really Texas, if we're looking at the, like just recently. Right. So it was already over. The dynasty being over is one thing. This is their reputation being over. And that's a different thing. Yeah. And the intimidation factor, the entire thing of who you are, right. The dynasty being over is. Look, it takes, if you, if anybody thinks that one team in college football is going to win a national championship every other year for 35 years, that's probably not going to happen. Right. However, what also comes after that is over is whether or not you still instill the same type of fear in people that you used to, because that, that's durable. That takes a while to go away. It takes a while to people for people to forget that you played them. LSU played Alabama one time. We didn't cross the 50. That's in a national championship game. Right. So Things like that. It takes a while for that stuff to get out of people's heads, but, you know, it gets it out of people's heads like this. And not just like this. Like this. With an Indiana team that is doing it in a classic college football way with fundamentals, mindset and toughness. Do or is. Is Indiana fast? Yep. Is Indiana strong? Yep. Is Indiana disciplined? Yep. But more than anything, Indiana is a nail. You can't bend them. You can't bend them like it. They. They are there and they believe. And I would be shocked right now if they didn't win the national championship based upon what I've seen. Be shocked. Even though I picked Georgia. I will, I will shout out one person, though. And this guy that I don't think gets shouted out enough because he's brilliant and I love this guy. David Dennis. David Dennis called this blowout. And y' all made fun of my man partly because he's light skinned. Y' all made fun of David Dennis because y' all said, listen, you beige, you don't know what's gonna happen in this game. And he was right. He said there's no reason to believe that Alabama will be able to do anything to Indiana. And he was right. They couldn't. They lost big. And the question is, if you are a Crimson Tie fan, now what now.

[Tate]

What'S a good question? There was also a lot of conversation stirring going into this game. And here's a fact for you guys, first fact here. College Football Playoff teams with the first round buy were 0 and 6 going into this game. And there was a conversation going into this game where it's like, maybe having the buy is bad and it's tough because you have to wait a month to play. Nick Saban's talking about it. Even Dan Lanning was talking about it. It kind of bit them in the butt last year against Ohio State. So for this Indiana team to have that conversation leading into this game, they kind of have this perfect excuse if they do no show first possession. By the way, Indiana gets the ball first, Mendoza gets sacked twice. And it did feel like, okay, this is going to be an Alabama game where they're going to dominate in the front and it's going to be like, oh, of course Alabama dominates. And then they end up winning the way that they did. Debunking the whole first round by conversation like that. That was the other part of this. It was like a double entendre of domination.

[Joel Anderson]

And I mean, also, that's just a really small sample. If you go through that list of games, like all of them make sense. Arizona, explainable. Arizona State lost to Texas.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Boise State lost to Penn State. Yeah. Georgia lost to Notre Dame with Gunner Stockton, who at that time was not the start. You know, it had been. Yeah.

[Tate]

It was a bad turnover before the half. Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Oregon had to run it back with Ohio State. Just as they were reaching, reaching their peak, Texas Tech played Oregon. You know, Oregon was favored and has more talent. All those things, all those things are expected. So I just went down to get the 06 thing. I was like that. The buy thing doesn't have anything.

[Van Lathan]

Hell nah. Hell nah. Hell no. Let's go back to the Texas Tech, Oregon thing.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, you want to talk about it?

[Van Lathan]

Yeah, let's talk about it. I, I think Texas Tech was affected by the layoff.

[Joel Anderson]

Really?

[Van Lathan]

Texas. Either Texas Tech is. Was affected by the layoff or Texas Tech is one of the worst offensive college football teams I've seen in a long time. That was excruciating.

[Tate]

Why can't Oregon be good at defense?

[Van Lathan]

Huh?

[Joel Anderson]

Why can't Oregon just be good at defense?

[Van Lathan]

Oh, yeah, no, they, they're okay. They're good. They're a good defensive team. But are they the 2,000 ravens? I mean, I didn't see Ray Lewis out there. They, they couldn't do nothing. And by the way, it wasn't just that. Stop trying to cap for the Big 12. It wasn't just that. This was terrible quarterback play, missing guys, weird throws. I thought he was pulling a John Tay Porter. I was about to check the props.

[Joel Anderson]

Let's talk about Baron Morton like that, man.

[Van Lathan]

I was looking at the props. I was, I was saying, like, what's going on?

[Tate]

I've been looking for.

[Van Lathan]

And bro, Oregon didn't look that good.

[Joel Anderson]

They did Oregon.

[Van Lathan]

The, the. You got to look at the final score of that game and say that Oregon went out there and dominated Texas Tech. Hell no.

[Tate]

It was a two possession game. One possession game the entire time.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah, Texas, they could not do anything on offense. I definitely think the layoff affected them. They got behind not just the actual sticks, but the mental sticks and they can never get back to right. Either that or they did little giants.

[Joel Anderson]

No, I just. The thing is, is that I thought their defense, they have a national championship defense. That is a defense that if you put, you know, Georgia on their helmets or whatever, you'll be like, oh, yeah, that is a, that's Oregon.

[Tate]

Hell, in this game, that is a.

[Joel Anderson]

Blue blood, blue chip, a championship level defense. Everybody that went into the game said, well, man, I just don't know how good Baron Morton is. I don't know how good that Texas, Texas Tech offense is. You know what it is about Texas Tech because they've done a great job. And I can't remember if the name's brother is James Blanchard or something like that. That's the GM that has assembled this team. Somebody will fact check me, I'm sure because I probably got it wrong. Yeah, it's like wazoo, bazoo, whatever. But they had a five star receiver a couple years ago that came in with. He was in the same class with Cam Cameron and Jeremiah Smith and his name was Micah Hudson. And this was a big coup. This is maybe one of the first five stars Texas Tech had ever had ever landed. And I think he had like eight receptions this year is a sophomore. It's just like, oh man, they missed on that. Like that's an evaluation a lot of people did because Michael Hudson was a five star. And I hate to put it on this kid, but I just felt like it would have been nice if Texas Tech had somebody that scared me all years. Yeah, they had good, good players. Another body that scared you that offense.

[Van Lathan]

Produced all year though.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, it's true they did. They never, they never played a defense.

[Van Lathan]

Like Oregon and they, they produced, they produced, they produced all year, all year.

[Tate]

And they had a really good backup and Will Hammond, right. Who's heard now for the year. So they didn't have a turn to him. Yeah, so that hurts too. He won some big games for them.

[Van Lathan]

He did win some big games for him. I thought that at times he looked a little bit better, more competent throughout the years a couple watch but, but they, they made plays all throughout the. And they came out there. I'm telling you. Obviously it's funny to watch the third best team I was with Joel to watch the third best team in the Big Ten over the Big Ten Chan the Big 12 champion. That's actually whatever when you get to these games in the playoffs it is what it is. But I do think that for Texas Tech I do think that the layoff hurt them. I do, I think it maybe not, maybe this game doesn't go in a different way, but I think they'd have looked different on offense had they not have like all the time off. And you know you're coming from. You're dealing with a Oregon team that had played a game play the game against James Madison much better on offense than Texas Tech did. James Madison was able to actually make plays and put a little bit of a Scare into Oregon. What? They weren't.

[Joel Anderson]

Oregon took the. I mean, they knew that they had some boys, and they took the. They took the. Yeah. And they took that foot off gas. They had. They. I mean, they never lit up off Tech.

[Van Lathan]

They. They never let up off Tech. But at the same time, watching the ineptitude that I saw from Tech, it was startling. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

[Tate]

Lanning wasn't great in this game either, especially in the first half. Like, there were some boneheaded decisions, especially, like, in the red zone, not taking points when they probably should have taken points. And they kind of kept the game within reach. And for whatever reason, Texas Tech just could not figure out a way to score any points in this game. So they get shut out. I mean, how shocking is that, Joel, for the best team in the Big 12 to get shut out in this game?

[Joel Anderson]

I mean, it is. I mean, obviously, there's just been this shift in football. I was going to talk about it later, but obviously, like, defenses. The defenses are really, really good in college football this year, like, at this level. And, you know, I don't think I would have predicted that they would get shut out, but if you had told me they were going to lose 28 to 10 before today, I probably would have been like, yeah, I could see that happening, because I don't think Baron Morton is any good. I shouldn't say that. Sorry. Young man. I just think that this was not your day, and you didn't play. You played against a much better defense. You'd never played against a defense that good this season. And I think.

[Tate]

But I wouldn't say that Oregon's the best defense in the cfp, right? I mean, so that's the other part.

[Joel Anderson]

I don't think it is.

[Van Lathan]

You guys. You guys. Are you guys looking at this?

[Joel Anderson]

What? Oh, Trinidad. Oh. Oh, I'm looking at it right now.

[Van Lathan]

This. This game is. This game is wacky, bro got drunk 24.

[Joel Anderson]

He converted that, right?

[Tate]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

This. This game is wacky. Trinidad Chambers is running around being wacky as. This is wacky. It's wacky football happening right now.

[Joel Anderson]

I hadn't seen that, man.

[Tate]

They really wonky.

[Joel Anderson]

They got. They got that. They really are showing that confederate tonight, man. I feel like they just. The colors and everything, it just is very.

[Van Lathan]

What are you talking about?

[Joel Anderson]

It's just very. They got their conf. Federation.

[Tate]

I think it's Cam. I think it's camouflage. Right?

[Joel Anderson]

Cool. Yeah, man. Looks nice. Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

I mean, if you.

[Joel Anderson]

If you. If you into it, man, that's great.

[Tate]

I'm not into it.

[Joel Anderson]

Okay.

[Van Lathan]

All right.

[Tate]

I'm out on it. I don't even like. I don't like the powder blue appropriation.

[Van Lathan]

If you. If you all miss. Why don't you just lean into it?

[Joel Anderson]

Right?

[Tate]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Somebody's. When you. When you have somebody sign in nil, they should just do it up on an auction block. And they should just. And they should just. They should just do. Go into the pageantry. You already. The Confederacy. But just go into the pageantry. Go into the pageantry. Line all the players up, do the nil. Bid. Do the whole thing. Like. Like learn.

[Tate]

They give out the Jefferson Davis MVP awards.

[Van Lathan]

The Robert Elite.

[Joel Anderson]

Don't you think there's a place for an explicitly racist college football program?

[Van Lathan]

Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Right now, but they could actually have a good. A good fan base, an activated fan base place.

[Van Lathan]

All of them really kind of are. Which is the funny part of it. It's.

[Joel Anderson]

All of.

[Van Lathan]

All of them are. If you guys ever been to these towns where we kind of can't talk about it because the players are there.

[Joel Anderson]

Downtown market. What?

[Van Lathan]

It used to be funny. It used to be funny to be on campus and tell. And tell the LSU players like, what the LSU Tiger really means.

[Tate]

Oh, my God.

[Van Lathan]

Like what it is. What happened?

[Tate]

Sorry. Chambers just complete like a 40 yard pass.

[Van Lathan]

Chad was going crazy. Yeah, but you would tell them that and they would be like, for real. And then the moment that it would go in their head, it would go out there. They would be like, for real. Well, if it's about being a Tiger, then I'm a Tiger.

[Tate]

Wouldn't happen to me, though.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tate]

Man, the backdoor payments were hitting well in those times.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Tate]

Chambliss is driving right now, 26 to 37.

[Joel Anderson]

291. A touchdown. That's was okay. Hey, Van, how do you. Again? We. I think we ran over this the other day. How do you feel if Ole Miss wins this game? It.

[Van Lathan]

Well, I feel two ways. Number one, it's annoying if they win. That's the first thing. Number two, because it just continues the story. Plus, we need to see which ones of these guys are coming to Baton Rouge. You know, we need to get the season over. Number two, though. Georgia was my n. Georgia was my national championship.

[Tate]

Me too.

[Van Lathan]

Choice.

[Joel Anderson]

So listen it all for us today then?

[Van Lathan]

What'd you say?

[Joel Anderson]

Let's end it all for us. Because, I mean, me and Billy's teams already are out our national championship.

[Tate]

Joel. I have a perfect bracket.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, you do?

[Van Lathan]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Joel Anderson]

If Georgia wins, though.

[Tate]

If Georgia wins. But I'm just saying, so far, I got a perfect. I don't think I'm trying to blow up everybody, man.

[Joel Anderson]

I would say. I mean. Okay, man, well, you know, you're the gambling guy, man. You know, we should. We should promote that more. Fanduel. Fanduel. Fanduel.

[Tate]

Hey, Sal. Put 100 bucks plus 700 Miami to make the semi finals, so.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, okay. It was smart. Smart. Sounds smart, man, you know, his too.

[Tate]

Well, that was for me. That's why I did it. I get 700.

[Joel Anderson]

Nice.

[Van Lathan]

Oh, you get the 700, man, y' all make.

[Joel Anderson]

Y' all do make gambling sound appealing. When it comes down to raw cash like that, I'm just like, man, 700.

[Tate]

We gotta. We gotta make. No matter. You know?

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, man. I mean, gambling is. Oh, man. Fanduel. You know what it is, Joel?

[Tate]

Eject. Don't do it.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Okay.

[Joel Anderson]

I'm letting it go.

[Tate]

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[Van Lathan]

I want the chat. Yeah. I want the chat to get on.

[Joel Anderson]

I don't know if I should join y' all in this because y' all about to pull some bullshit, but go ahead.

[Van Lathan]

No, we.

[Tate]

We just said this is a conversation point. So Joel on Twitter today had Reddit, CFB shout out to Red fc Reddit cfb. Big fans of what they got going on over there.

[Van Lathan]

Wait, who.

[Joel Anderson]

Who's big fans of who we all.

[Tate]

Are on the show, especially you.

[Joel Anderson]

Are I with him? I mean. Okay, that's what I'm saying. But everybody.

[Tate]

They, quote, tweeted Joel. When Joel said something about Alabama fans and Kaylin DeBoer. DeBoer should have gone to Ann Arbor. Right? That's the. That's the whole general conversation, right? Joel, they, quote, tweeted you, and then you were upset about this, and you responded accordingly. Because. Because why, I guess, is the setup.

[Joel Anderson]

Okay. Upset is probably pushing it.

[Van Lathan]

Touchdown. Ole Miss, by the way.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, shit.

[Tate]

And they're going to go on Lacy. They're going to go for two right.

[Joel Anderson]

From Lancaster, Texas, man. Man, how did he get away from UT and Texas A? Yeah, well, I guess the same thing could be said of Aston Genti, you know? Yeah. Oh. So do you want me to tell the story for real?

[Tate]

Yeah, yeah. They're going for two. Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Well, hold on.

[Joel Anderson]

Let's wait till they get to here. I want to. I know that I'm gonna lose my train.

[Tate]

25, 24, 11 minutes.

[Joel Anderson]

Somebody keep a bookmark so I know to come back to this.

[Tate]

Oh, got it.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, damn, man. I'm behind y', all, man.

[Van Lathan]

They're gonna around and win this game. They gonna. Wow.

[Tate]

And then after we do this, we're going to talk about Lane Kiffin if Ole Miss wins this game. But, Joel, back to the original conceit. Why are you upset about this whole thing?

[Joel Anderson]

So, I mean, I'm not upset that. That overstates. I just sent off a tweet. You know, it didn't take nothing for me to send off a tweet. That doesn't mean I'm upset. I was just ending the conversation. But I thought they were being disingenuous by saying, oh, yes, the famously rational and not histrionic Michigan fan base. Do you know when Michigan fans would like. I don't know, man. Jim Harbaugh, we would expect you to do a little bit better here. It was like year six, like year five or year six of them. They had a. They had a bad Covid year.

[Tate]

He couldn't beat Ohio State.

[Joel Anderson]

Couldn't beat Ohio State for a while. And they were like, oh, man, maybe we should get rid of Jim Harbaugh. But it wasn't it really a fever pitch and it was like a low level hum. But they did make him take a pay cut to come back. He wins and goes away, bro. That's not what we know to be true about the Alabama fan base. That they would not. They're not gonna wait five years of you losing to your top rival and not winning and not contending for a national championship. They wouldn't tolerate that at Alabama, and which is why they would go through their coaches. So I don't know why Reddit CFB is pretending like they don't know the difference between Alabama and Michigan. And if they don't, then I guess they don't follow football. That's closely. But the other thing about it is.

[Tate]

But you said you weren't upset about what they said. Really? You were upset? Quote.

[Joel Anderson]

But the other thing is just like, man, don't. That's some whole ass bro quote, tweeting somebody. You. I don't. You don't follow me. You don't follow me. I don't with you. You know what I'm saying? It's not like I'll be going to Reddit cfb. Like, we're not enemies, you know? So, like, why are you like. I just. I would. I don't. I only quote, quote, tweet people in that way.

[Van Lathan]

People.

[Joel Anderson]

I don't like a people that I know that I'm not gonna like. I'm not doing it just for random people who we may be on the same side of an issue, whatever. But I guess that's the whole. That our Reddit CFB is down with. And I guess that's the whole. That y' all support. I was like, bro, I don't even talk to you, man.

[Van Lathan]

Why are you talking.

[Joel Anderson]

Why are you talking to me?

[Van Lathan]

You don't follow me.

[Joel Anderson]

Why. Why the you over here, dog?

[Tate]

But don't you think they're trying to amplify your voice, you know?

[Joel Anderson]

No.

[Tate]

Can you take it that way?

[Joel Anderson]

Lol.

[Van Lathan]

Why are you so pissed?

[Tate]

He's really upset. He's not mad. He told us he's not mad.

[Joel Anderson]

My bad.

[Van Lathan]

Hold on for a second.

[Joel Anderson]

Hold on, man. You know.

[Van Lathan]

You know when. You know, you get really bad, Homie's really mad. Hey, hey.

[Tate]

He turned on us.

[Van Lathan]

That ass. Whatever. But see, with that.

[Tate]

So that's Yalls, man.

[Joel Anderson]

Yes, y. I mean, y. Y' all want to support.

[Van Lathan]

See, man, that's how people do me about DJ academics. I've been doing that for a long time. I do something crazy, I get a random text. See, See, man, You see.

[Tate]

You'Re implicated.

[Joel Anderson]

I mean, y' all said y' all were fans of that. I don't know. Reddit cfb, maybe. They're good people. Maybe. Whatever. But there just was no need for you to talk to me, bro. So I'm sorry, like, if you go talk to me, follow me, then you know what I mean?

[Tate]

So if they follow, that's part of it, perfectly fine.

[Joel Anderson]

No, but I mean, establish a relationship with me. I don't.

[Van Lathan]

I don't just.

[Joel Anderson]

I'm not. Unless you want to be my enemy, which. Fine, whatever. Okay. We can tweet at each other and we can do that. That's fine. If that's.

[Tate]

I'm trying to understand the rules of engagement.

[Joel Anderson]

So if they quote Tweeted you only quote tweet strangers. I only quote tweet strangers. If like I'm like, oh, that's a funny story or they share something interesting or whatever. You know, something tangentially related to the world that I'm in. The range of things that I'm interested in. I'm not gonna get some 700 follow stranger. And they said something stupid quote tweeted and be like, haha, look at you. You said something dumb like, I'm not gonna do that.

[Van Lathan]

So the quotes to quote punch up.

[Joel Anderson]

So the quote tweets to you don't punch down.

[Van Lathan]

The quote tweet to you.

[Tate]

Is this Freest has got the tweets up.

[Van Lathan]

Here's the Got the tweets up right here.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, man. I really fre. Really be on it, man.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah, he's on top of his so bring up.

[Joel Anderson]

I cannot believe y' all are inspecting my tweets. That's close. This is the kind of. That make me.

[Van Lathan]

Wait a second. That was funny.

[Joel Anderson]

Hold on.

[Van Lathan]

I'm looking at the. I'm watching you go back and forth with the Reddit CFB thing and the chat wanted it. And then under that I see that's some real.

[Tate]

At least you said the whole on Twitter.

[Joel Anderson]

Because I believe with his whole what.

[Van Lathan]

The Is like what is Joel so upset about? And then I look at it. It's not that even big a deal. The that y' all was going back and forth about. It's nice. But. But you. To you, the quote tweet itself is a dis. The act of.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. I mean, you're just coming to laugh at me, to throw me to your Reddit followers to be like, look at this, man. He think he know about football. I Man, you dog. Don't talk to me. Just don't talk. Don't talk. Don't follow me. We don't have to do that. That Wait, and I'm torn on if if he did a screenshot, if that would be more of a whole move or not in some ways, I guess I kind of respect it because, you know, you did do it to my face. You didn't do a screenshot would be even more ho. But I mean, come on, man.

[Tate]

That would be the most ho. Ship him to screenshot it, not follow you, and then tweet it without you knowing.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah, that's actually more.

[Tate]

That would be foul.

[Joel Anderson]

That's more. That would be the lowest in over the whole. Yes.

[Van Lathan]

Duke, Duke, what's your thoughts here?

[Tate]

Well, what. What if you get the.

[Joel Anderson]

Why does his opinion matter on this?

[Tate]

He understands we're a team. I'm just asking.

[Joel Anderson]

No, we're not.

[Tate]

We're not a team.

[Van Lathan]

What do you mean?

[Joel Anderson]

Not the way I mean, y' all said y'. All. That's y', all boy. Who ready? Cfb.

[Tate]

If you got the follow tonight, how would you feel, right? Like, after this, he follows.

[Joel Anderson]

If he followed. I mean. Nah, man. Get. Now you trolling me, bro.

[Tate]

What?

[Joel Anderson]

Now you trolling. If you follow me, be like, oh, yeah, my bad, man. I didn't mean nothing about that. I actually had a twin interaction with somebody earlier this year, and it was like, we kind of had a misunderstanding, and we talked offline, and we worked through it. It was cool. You know what I'm saying? It's like, okay, I just kind of didn't know where you were coming from. You didn't know where I was coming from, but we might like each other. Van knows who I'm talking about. Do you remember this? No. No. We're not gonna talk about it in public, but Van knows what I'm talking.

[Van Lathan]

About because a whole bunch of people.

[Joel Anderson]

Were like, joel, what's going on, bro?

[Van Lathan]

This is intro. This is intra ringer.

[Joel Anderson]

Why are you giving up the. What are you doing?

[Tate]

You're fighting with people at work.

[Joel Anderson]

What are you doing?

[Tate]

I actually. I actually remember this, too.

[Van Lathan]

I'm sorry.

[Tate]

Wait, who was it?

[Van Lathan]

No, we can't talk about it. Joel is go. You guys, Joel's gonna maybe have an aneurysm on this show.

[Joel Anderson]

It was a whole thing, and I didn't know the brother. Oh, man. Well, here it is. Is Raheem okay? Fine. And me and Raheem, we just had a misunderstanding on Twitter and people.

[Van Lathan]

And people.

[Joel Anderson]

And everybody was like, oh, Joel. What? You know, people were doing that, and one of our mutual friends shout out Jason England linked us up. He's like, man, y' all got more in common than y' all think. Y' all should get the talk offline. And, like, he apologized, and I apologized for my role in it, and it was like, okay, cool. And now, like, I. I with Raheem, like, you know, yeah, he might be.

[Tate]

Watching this for all we know.

[Joel Anderson]

We got. Yeah, that's the right.

[Van Lathan]

Raheem will put you on blast on Twitter, though.

[Tate]

Oh, yeah.

[Van Lathan]

But see, this is. But see, here's the thing, though. This is what I'm saying. A quote tweet, in and of itself is not necessarily necessarily a diss. It's not. I do get the follow thing, though. I do get the Follow thing. A quote tweet. A quote tweet itself is not necessarily a dis. But the follow thing kind of makes sense because it's like, now we don't even know each other. Like that, and you almost trying to get your followers on me.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Well, thank you, Van. I appreciate it.

[Van Lathan]

I do. I do, kind of. I do. See, I think that.

[Tate]

Joe, we're all on your side.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. Are you really?

[Tate]

All of us.

[Joel Anderson]

Reddit, cfb, y', all, Boy.

[Tate]

Not our. Not our boy. But we're trying to look unfollow him. They have an audience.

[Van Lathan]

What?

[Joel Anderson]

Unfollow. Don't follow them.

[Tate]

Right now we gotta post this clip, tagging them. Right? Like, obviously, like, we need to escalate this.

[Joel Anderson]

I don't know if we gotta do that, man.

[Van Lathan]

We have to, because at this.

[Tate]

If not, you're talking. Yeah, that's. Oh, now you're you. Now you're screenshotting.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

[Joel Anderson]

Wait, what's. Ho.

[Van Lathan]

Post this clip, then you. That's whole on your part.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, no question. I don't care.

[Van Lathan]

Go for it.

[Joel Anderson]

Go for it. That's fine.

[Tate]

Go for it.

[Joel Anderson]

That's fine. I don't want. I would.

[Van Lathan]

You know what?

[Joel Anderson]

It should end tonight. There's a big game going on.

[Van Lathan]

You challenged Lane Kiffin to a fight. Yeah, and then when we was about to post.

[Joel Anderson]

I didn't challenge him to a fight.

[Tate]

Yo, we have Joel. You said it on the air.

[Joel Anderson]

I said that if he had a problem with. I said what I said, defining his behavior as ho. I did not call him a hoe.

[Tate]

You said, bring it to 227.

[Joel Anderson]

No, I said, meet me at the Whole Foods in downtown Silver Spring.

[Tate]

So you said.

[Van Lathan]

Don'T.

[Joel Anderson]

Don't nobody approach me there. Don't nobody come to me. I have my son with me.

[Tate]

Georgia just got sacked on a fourth and two.

[Joel Anderson]

I saw that, bro.

[Tate]

Big play.

[Joel Anderson]

Is that Santera Perkins? Yeah.

[Tate]

Big play. And a fumble.

[Van Lathan]

That's a sack fumble right there.

[Tate]

Yeah. Let's see. I think it is a fumble, right?

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Tate]

That's a fumble. That's a fumble.

[Joel Anderson]

Bam.

[Van Lathan]

Golden coaching where as this. Oh, and they're driving now. Red zone happening.

[Joel Anderson]

Okay. Oh.

[Van Lathan]

Oh, wow.

[Joel Anderson]

They're at the 25.

[Van Lathan]

Gotta keep them out of the red. Out of the end zone right here, man. You know that play right there, that sort of. That kind of concept right at the edge of the defense, Right. It's not a slant. It's almost like a flat route. Right? Out there, it's just killing Georgia.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

That flat route right there is just getting on. They getting out leverage every time, man. Every time they run that.

[Tate]

And it's funny because, like, before the game, Kirby was like, no free access, plays six.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, is it really six?

[Van Lathan]

Trinidad Chambers is having the game of.

[Joel Anderson]

His life that wasn't playing in Division two football last year, man.

[Tate]

He won a national championship.

[Joel Anderson]

He won a national championship. Division two. And now. Yeah, man. That's incredible, man.

[Tate]

And he also played great against Georgia, at Georgia. You know, during the season, they were up in that game as well, and Georgia was able to climb back and get a win. But this is a lot of Ole Miss fans, by the way, at the Sugar Bowl. Have you guys ever been in the Sugar Bowl?

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, my God, I have. Of course.

[Tate]

I have, too. I think we've all been to the Sugar Bowl.

[Joel Anderson]

Do you know what I mean? I told. I think I told Vanish. I was there for the 2003 Sugar bowl where they beat. Because I used to cover Oklahoma in the 2003 year. So I was there for that national championship game at the Sugar Bowl. That's one of the most fun weeks I've ever had in my life. It was so great.

[Tate]

It was a Gables experience.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah, the LSU fans were so happy to be there at that point. We hadn't really sniffed the national championship in a long, long time. So everything, everybody. We knew how great the team was, but everybody was just full of life.

[Joel Anderson]

Chad Lavalay. Justin.

[Van Lathan]

Yep. Chad Lav. Justin Vincent. Skyler Green. Matt.

[Joel Anderson]

Matt Mock. Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Marcus Spears. Michael Clayton.

[Joel Anderson]

Marquis Hill.

[Van Lathan]

Marquis Hill. Rest in peace.

[Joel Anderson]

Rest in peace. Marquis Hill.

[Van Lathan]

Like, rest in peace. Marquis Hill. Great team. Corey Webster.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, that's right. Corey Webster was on that team.

[Van Lathan]

Corey Webster converted wide receiver, Nick Saban takes him over to the defensive side of the ball, and he becomes an All American. Goes on to have a pretty good NFL career. So, like, a lot of Tigers there, like, unforgettable team, Unforgettable Tigers team.

[Joel Anderson]

Would you rather go to if we had to pick? We're not gonna get to go. But the. The Sugar bowl, the Rose bowl, the Fiesta bowl, or the Orange bowl, if you had to pick?

[Van Lathan]

No, I've never been to the Fiesta Bowl.

[Tate]

Yeah, I've been all. But the Fiesta bowl, really? Should we all go to the Fiesta Bowl?

[Van Lathan]

We should all go to the Fiesta Ball. I've never been to the Fiesta. I've been to the Orange bowl before. I've been to the Sugar bowl before. I've been to the Rose Bowl.

[Tate]

Before.

[Van Lathan]

Before. I've never been to the Fiesta bowl out here. You can go to you. You. Some years ago. I'm saying it. Let's go to the Rose Bowl. It just go to the Rose Bowl. Go and hang out there. But like, you. Sugar bowl was on. I've never been to the Fiesta Bowl. That's Arizona, right, Tempe?

[Joel Anderson]

Yes, Arizona, man. I've never. I've only been in the Phoenix airport. Arizona is like one of those weird states I've never been to before.

[Tate]

I've been to final fours there, 2017, a couple years ago. But yeah, it'd be great. Let's go to the Fiesta Bowl.

[Joel Anderson]

Let's line up.

[Tate]

But right now, 34, 24, nine minutes to play. Sugar bowl happening right now in real time. Apparently, Billy Gill said lane Kiffin makes 500K. This is true. This is not a rumor. He is going to make 500k if ole miss wins this game tonight. He also vane, I want to get your thoughts on this. He apparently. This. I don't know if this is true, but through the grapevine, he apparently was trying to get on the broadcast for this game and I guess talk about Ole Miss and, you know, try to, I guess, assuage some of the friction between himself and the old Miss fans. And then there was a lot of pushback from Ole Miss with espn. They didn't want him on the broadcast. Your thoughts? Just like right now, as he's the LSU coach, he ended up going to the women's basketball game with Kim Mulkey instead. But would you want him on the broadcast? Do you want him to kind of have his. Do you want it to be over with with Ole Miss? I guess is the question.

[Van Lathan]

So here's the thing, and I. I'm really confused about this. Not confused, but I'm not quite sure the way Lane is. You kind of gotta let Lane be Lane. When you're in the Lane business, all of this stuff is a part of it. Do I personally want Lane Kiffin to be around like this and doing that type of stuff? No. I think that there are so many things that he has to fix right now in Baton Rouge that he needs to be thinking about those things. Transfers everywhere. We got some good news as far as Wit Weeks and Harlem Berry, some other guys to Sean Spears. But we're also losing a lot of guys. Make sure you go out and restock the offensive line in the transfer portal and all of that stuff. But then at the same time, this is a part of it. Like, you know what I Mean, it's like if you take a stripper out the club, you take it, then you. You take out to your. To your family. You can't really be mad if she shake a little ass. Like, if you. If you. If you take out the strip club and then y' all go to the family reunion and she shake a little ass.

[Tate]

Leopard doesn't change his stripes.

[Van Lathan]

She shouldn't. She shouldn't.

[Joel Anderson]

No, she should, but.

[Tate]

But she's a tiger.

[Van Lathan]

She did not know. You expect.

[Joel Anderson]

Just because she's a dancer, you expect. If you had. If you dated a massage therapist, would you expect her to show up? If she showed up at your house and had a massage table, I was like, well, I'm just gonna go. I'm just gonna rub a couple.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. You know what's funny?

[Joel Anderson]

Stop.

[Van Lathan]

The episode. The episode of the Sopranos when Steve Buscemi's character, the animal Tony Blundetto, gets out. He got his massage license inside of jail. As soon as the rest of the crew comes around, what does he start doing? Giving the whole guy's massages. Giving them massages.

[Joel Anderson]

You.

[Van Lathan]

What I'm saying is you wouldn't expect him to give a massage, but if he starts giving a massage, you can't be mad about it. If you give massage, you can't be mad about it. So what I'm saying is, in this situation, if you gonna be with a free spirit like that, you kind of gotta let them free spirit their thing. It's not my type of deal, but I can't get too mad at it.

[Tate]

One other thing, Van, that I've heard through the grapevine is that he's not wearing LSU gear until Ole Miss is kind of done, like, this season. So it was sort of his way to show some. I. This is. Again, this is all agents. You know, agents feed you bullshit, and you. You know, you regurgitate it if you want to, but this is what I've heard through the grapevine that he's like, this is a solidarity play from Lane, that he has not worn any LSU gear. Do you buy that? Or you just think Lane is trying to get his fits off? Because I. I don't really buy that whole idea, but I do find it funny.

[Van Lathan]

I'm gonna be real with you. I saw Kyle Whittingham. Attending the. The Citrus bowl, and he had a Michigan shirt on.

[Tate]

Had a headset on at one point.

[Van Lathan]

And I got. I got pissed off. I was a little.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, see, I'm not gonna.

[Van Lathan]

You. At first, I didn't care about it. But I saw him. I saw him. He said, I got a little pissed off. I got a little pissed off that Kyle Winningham was up there full on maze and blue, and our guy was just like Cyclops in the first X Men movie.

[Tate]

It left the game early, you know what I'm saying?

[Van Lathan]

So, like, and Kyle Whittingham just got there.

[Joel Anderson]

He, like, he just got there, man.

[Tate]

Yeah, it is very strange. I. I don't know how to read it. And he went to the LSU game tonight, the women's game, and he didn't wear any LSU gear there either. So I'm starting to believe what I. What I've been told.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, I missed it. Oh, Branch, Branch. Usc. Usc. Could have used him the other night, man. Damn.

[Tate]

Zachariah Branch has had a good game.

[Van Lathan]

This game is crazy. If the Georgia defense can step up, it'll be legacy drive Gunner Stockton time. I say that we ride this game out with the tailgaters.

[Tate]

Yeah, let's ride it out.

[Van Lathan]

Tailgaters, y'. All.

[Tate]

Why are you upset? Or is that Billy again?

[Joel Anderson]

It's 11. It's 11:12 out here, man.

[Tate]

Joe, hey, you know, seven minutes. What do you have to do? What are you doing? You want this show to succeed or not?

[Joel Anderson]

My children. My children are asleep in the room next to this room. And so my wife is sleeping in there with them, keeping them just so they don't wake up or run in here, you know, And I haven't eaten today. I only had two wings. But I'll wait with y', all, man. Okay.

[Van Lathan]

Oh, no. You know what, Joe?

[Tate]

We don't want to put you microphone and eat your chicken wings, and then we'll. And then chime in, the three of us.

[Van Lathan]

The three of us.

[Tate]

Yeah, chime in as you want. Like, the chat will love that. They would love to see Joel. Like, they'd be like, joel's definitely high tonight. There's no.

[Joel Anderson]

I don't like. No, dude.

[Van Lathan]

I'm like, eat your chicken wings.

[Joel Anderson]

Don't say it like that. Don't say, eat my chicken, man.

[Van Lathan]

Tell you to eat the chicken.

[Tate]

Oh, no, no.

[Van Lathan]

We back to the. To the Oxford auction block, son. The essence.

[Joel Anderson]

I used it. I. I went. You know, I did it. But I. Let's. Let's do it. Let's stay. Okay. Boy, I tell you, if y' all got anything else. Thank you, Joe.

[Van Lathan]

I appreciate that. You know what? Hold on for a second.

[Joel Anderson]

We have 609 people looking at this. Can you believe it? This late at night? What are y' all doing?

[Van Lathan]

We like, we going crazy. We. And we. It's gonna be. We gonna be bidded. Hey, I want to say something else to everybody that's supporting tailgate right now. Now, tailgate is on his way up. You guys are the original tailgaters. I'mma find something. I'mma find something to do for the original tailgaters, man. Yeah, Tailgates on the way up. Y' all the original tailgaters. But right now, since Joel acting crazy, let me go to college football Reddit page.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, bro, come on.

[Tate]

Make a. Make a post about Joel on there or where.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh, man, who is Joel? See, why y' all hyping it up?

[Tate]

Yeah, how do we do that?

[Joel Anderson]

Why are y' all hyping it up? Why. Don't do that.

[Van Lathan]

Let me. Let me ask y' all a question. Oh, I want to introduce this into this.

[Joel Anderson]

Y' all really don't support me. Go ahead.

[Van Lathan]

Shout out to. Shout out to Franco, aka @ Don Cheech. Who put this.

[Joel Anderson]

In?

[Van Lathan]

Who. Who tweeted me in this? It said, dan Wolkin says it's time that we question whether or not the Big 12 is a power conference. Conference. It says it's time to consider whether the Big 12 is perpetrating a fraud on college football. Is this collection of schools still.

[Tate]

Worthy? Joel's gonna start eating here in a.

[Van Lathan]

Second. Of being called a power conference. Joe, I'm asking. I didn't say.

[Tate]

This. Joe, if you're hungry, I would eat.

[Van Lathan]

Now. I didn't. I didn't say this. This was. This was Franco cheat. Don at Don Cheech, who tweeted us all in this. Joe, What. What. What do you think about what? That point from Dan.

[Tate]

Wilkins. One CFP win as a.

[Joel Anderson]

Conference. I think what's going to happen is that they're not going to be a power. Most of those schools are not going to make it to the next iteration of college football. I told you that. I think that they're effectively a group of five conference and that nobody. It doesn't make a difference. People will share all the facts about how SEC has done poorly in the playoffs the last couple of years, about how the ACC is whack, you know, about how the Big Ten is.

[Tate]

Overrated. Semifinal team. Calm.

[Joel Anderson]

Down. Okay. All.

[Tate]

Right. Dominating the.

[Joel Anderson]

Draft. Yeah. Duke, 8 and 5 conference.

[Tate]

Champ. Who did Duke be a Big 12 team? Arizona.

[Joel Anderson]

State. I mean, they didn't have that quarterback. They missed a Sam Levitt, man. Arizona.

[Van Lathan]

State. You should. Hey, no, hold on for a.

[Joel Anderson]

Second. You support.

[Tate]

Duke. I have to do conference pride now. This is what SEC propaganda has made me. You know, I have to fight the.

[Van Lathan]

Good. Because when you brought up the cool, you brought up the Cougs, and you talked about the fact that they beat lsu. We didn't have nobody, so many people weren't around for the game, and you said no. And you know what I said? You know what? They won the.

[Joel Anderson]

Game.

[Van Lathan]

Cool. Same. Duke won the.

[Joel Anderson]

Game. Give it up for Duke. Okay.

[Van Lathan]

Great. Give it up. They did, okay? They did. And. And Miami is putting belt to ass, okay? Gatorade coolers with it right now. So you got to give it up for the.

[Joel Anderson]

Acc. No, I don't have to give it up for the acc.

[Tate]

What? Joe, you were. You're a.

[Joel Anderson]

Champ. Do you think the ACC gives up for the acc, man? I mean, Georgia Tech, now, we had a great season. Okay? I mean, man, you. I mean, are you. Do you. Are you gonna get looked down on when you go to Chapel Hill riding for Duke like this?

[Tate]

Tate, I watch the games. I support the.

[Joel Anderson]

Conference. I have a homeboy from Bossier City, Louisiana. My boy Gene, man. And I need. I owe him a call. And he used to. He hated lsu, bro. He hated LSU so much. No, don't talk about Gene like that. Gene just turned 60, man. That's my.

[Van Lathan]

Dog. Oh, he's 60 years.

[Tate]

Old. Shout out to Gene. Why'd you call him? For the.

[Van Lathan]

Razor. For.

[Joel Anderson]

Him. That's my guy, man. Jean Stroen. You know who I'm talking.

[Van Lathan]

About? Jean Stroen up there. He probably got gout. Go ahead. You probably.

[Joel Anderson]

What? Come on.

[Tate]

Man. Why. Why haven't you.

[Joel Anderson]

Play. My boy's health, man. So I just. Man, I. Do you have. You have two children. Two small children. You.

[Van Lathan]

Understand?

[Joel Anderson]

I. You know. But the point, man.

[Van Lathan]

See? What's the point.

[Joel Anderson]

Joe? I.

[Van Lathan]

Forgot. What's the point, bro? I forgot.

[Joel Anderson]

Itine. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. No, what Gene said was that. Gene said I would if. If Cl. If LSU played the clan. I root for the.

[Tate]

Clan.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Tate]

Yeah. That used to be it. That's what I'm.

[Joel Anderson]

Saying.

[Tate]

Yeah. If Duke played, you know, Taliban. You pull versus the. You know, the.

[Van Lathan]

Whole. Yeah, yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Gene. Yeah, man. But he don't like. Y' all like that dog. You.

[Van Lathan]

Know? I get it. Who does Gene root for, though? Shout out to Gene. Who.

[Joel Anderson]

Does. Gene Roof, man. Gene, kind.

[Van Lathan]

Of. Just because he's in. He's in. The architects up.

[Joel Anderson]

There.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. So Gene went to school, I think Southern Arkansas. He played football there. He was a linebacker there. I saw again, who does Gene root for man. Gene don't kind of root for nobody.

[Tate]

Man. He just hates.

[Joel Anderson]

Lsu. Yeah, he hates lsu. He like, you know, he likes in Louisiana Tech because he's, you know, and okay. And Grambling and I'm.

[Van Lathan]

School. I went there for a little while. Yeah, I.

[Joel Anderson]

Remember. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. You know about rusting. So. Yeah. Shout.

[Tate]

Out. Who's the number one Louisiana Tech.

[Van Lathan]

Alum? Car.

[Tate]

Malone.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. Oh.

[Tate]

Not. Got.

[Van Lathan]

Him. Not. He's number one on the court. Off the field is not. Is less than ideal, but on the court, no, on the court, he's. He's probably number.

[Joel Anderson]

One. No. You know what you could do to get rid Terry Bradshaw? Terry.

[Van Lathan]

Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw is. Is there as well. Terry.

[Tate]

Bradshaw. I think Terry still got like a. A hog farm up.

[Joel Anderson]

There. Like, man, Louisiana Tech. Who was that kid? And people are going to remember in the. In the. In the comments, it was a receiver they had. His name was Troy something and.

[Van Lathan]

He had like Troy.

[Joel Anderson]

Edwards. Troy Edwards had like 20 receptions against Nebraska when.

[Van Lathan]

Nebraska. Nebraska, like, like 200 some yards. Troy Edwards and Timurite together. Timber Tay was the.

[Joel Anderson]

Quarterback. Timber Tay. That. Timber Tay was cold.

[Tate]

Didn't. I mean, they had another good quarterback. Georgia with the.

[Joel Anderson]

Ball. By the way, I want to stay longer. We up here talking about Louisiana State.

[Tate]

Football. Nate Frazier went down the.

[Joel Anderson]

Injury. Oh.

[Van Lathan]

Man. Georgia. Georgia has the ball right now. Yeah, I feel like Georgia. Georgia can't. Can't punt this away. They need to come up with some kind of points on this drive. Either. Either the field goal to tie or to go ahead.

[Joel Anderson]

Touchdown. Wait, is that.

[Tate]

Nate? Yes, Nate. That's my.

[Joel Anderson]

Guy. Oh, man. This looks bad, though, the way look. The way they.

[Tate]

Acting. I.

[Joel Anderson]

Know. Well, I don't know. They just kind of gave each other.

[Tate]

Doubt. He finally got healthy.

[Joel Anderson]

Too. Yeah. Let's see what.

[Tate]

Happened. Oh, it's his right leg. It.

[Joel Anderson]

Looks. Yeah. Oh.

[Van Lathan]

Man. Rolled over right.

[Joel Anderson]

There. I mean, football is crazy.

[Van Lathan]

Man. These young men are.

[Joel Anderson]

Playing. Yeah, man. Football's crazy, man. I just. And every time now I look at it and I was like, oh, man, this guy got his leg trapped up under him or when people fall. I just. Oh, I can't believe people do that.

[Tate]

Man. Joel, you've been at the bottom of a pile.

[Joel Anderson]

Before. I couldn't.

[Tate]

Even. I couldn't.

[Van Lathan]

Even. Hey, Duke, where was.

[Tate]

Joel? At the bottom of a pilot 227.

[Joel Anderson]

Stop. First of all, stop talking about that. And I was not at the.

[Tate]

Bottom. Oh, I was genuinely asking about injury. What's the Worst.

[Joel Anderson]

Thing. Stop it. Stop it.

[Van Lathan]

Man. So now we know. Hold on. No, wait, wait. Let's just move.

[Joel Anderson]

On. Yeah, let's move on. Let's move.

[Tate]

On. I just. I was trying to ask a genuine question, Joel, about the injury. Like, what's the worst injury you feel at the bottom of a pile? It got off the rails.

[Joel Anderson]

Quickly. Yeah. I mean, somebody stepped on. Somebody stepped on. They running on my.

[Tate]

Hand. Yeah, that's what I've heard. I mean, I heard a lot of nutshots also.

[Joel Anderson]

Man. You know, I never. I don't know what it is. Maybe we just went that dirty down there in Houston ever. But nobody. You know, people barely even talk it. Like, maybe this was a 1995 thing. I don't know what they did in Baton Rouge or whatever or in. In Henderson, North Carolina, But I felt like we didn't really do a lot of talking against our opponents at that age in that time, for whatever reason. I don't know, like, if you went to the pickup to the Y or something, you might talk when you talk with your boys, whatever. But in the actual game, like, unless you did something to me, I don't.

[Van Lathan]

Know. In an actual game, almost.

[Joel Anderson]

Never.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. In pickup, the. The talking in Baton Rouge was just.

[Joel Anderson]

Terrible.

[Van Lathan]

Really? Yeah. You'll shoot the ball, and then you'll be like, hey, as soon as you shoot it, you'll be like, take that dick like a.

[Joel Anderson]

Man.

[Van Lathan]

What? The talking was terrible. It was.

[Tate]

Bro. That was bottom of the pile talk right.

[Van Lathan]

There. That's bomb with a piece. Hey, hey, take that like a man. You'll be so mad.

[Tate]

So.

[Van Lathan]

And. But never like, because the rest. The rest in back home was real, like, 81. What do you say? Like, the refs would, like, real pissed off. What do you. What are you. So what do you say? What'd you say to.

[Joel Anderson]

Him? Come over.

[Van Lathan]

Here. But like, in the park and like that. Like, yeah, like you. You in the gym in the catch. Em going crazy.

[Joel Anderson]

Talking. The catch him. Was that near.

[Van Lathan]

McKinley? Nah. So McKinley, the Ketchum, was where we all played. It was where me, Michael Clayton played. Marcus Spears used to be there. Silk, the Shaka and Master P. And them used to.

[Joel Anderson]

Come. Okay. They would fall through.

[Van Lathan]

Okay. So the Ketchum was the Ketchum Fitness center that was running by Jimmy.

[Joel Anderson]

Swaggart. Wow.

[Van Lathan]

Right? So the Family Christian Academy was Jimmy Swaggart's school that he had. The Ketchum Fitness center was connected to Family Christian Academy. And if you was hooping in Baton Rouge, especially on the south side, of the city. You can get to the catch. And the catching was where all the games was, where everybody was.

[Tate]

Playing. A 4th and 9 right now, by the way, Georgia, 4th and 9, 3:13 to.

[Joel Anderson]

Play. This.

[Van Lathan]

Is. This, to me, is the.

[Tate]

Game. Definitely could be the game.

[Joel Anderson]

Man. It's.

[Tate]

Just. I would have played.

[Joel Anderson]

This. It's crazy to think.

[Tate]

Of. Oh, my.

[Van Lathan]

God.

[Tate]

Open. That's Branch again.

[Joel Anderson]

Zachariah. Oh.

[Tate]

Wow. Is he hurt? No, he's.

[Van Lathan]

Good. And that's a three man rush. Would you have.

[Tate]

Rush? That's a. Golding likes the three man rush. That's like his.

[Van Lathan]

Thing. I mean, drop.

[Tate]

One. That wasn't even a three man rush. That was a two man rush with, like, a.

[Van Lathan]

Container. That is a great ball, man. From gun layered that ball over the top. So we're already in field goal range. What do you do here.

[Joel Anderson]

Man? Branch is so cold, man. All right, let's see now. We up here. Watch. Perkins got hell. Come on.

[Van Lathan]

Man. It's a.

[Joel Anderson]

Whole. Yep.

[Tate]

Yep. That's big. Now you're out of field goal.

[Joel Anderson]

Range.

[Van Lathan]

Yep. I mean, I sort of blame.

[Joel Anderson]

That. Hold.

[Van Lathan]

On. Gunner Stockton right there. Yeah, he's a little indecisive right there. Made his line block a little bit too long.

[Tate]

Man. I just followed Reddit.

[Joel Anderson]

Cfb. Come on.

[Tate]

Billy. Billy, man, I just want to see if they kind of put you on blast again so that I know when to speak.

[Joel Anderson]

Up. No, you don't need to know that. Yeah, you don't need to know.

[Tate]

That. We need someone.

[Joel Anderson]

Watching. Y' all not gonna.

[Tate]

Do. What do you mean? No, we're gonna share it with you and then defend you.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. Ready? Cfb. Don't talk to him like.

[Tate]

That. I'm.

[Van Lathan]

Gonna. I'm.

[Joel Anderson]

Gonna. Actually, you know.

[Tate]

What? I'm gonna repost what they did to you earlier. I'm gonna say that's not.

[Joel Anderson]

Right. Don't do.

[Tate]

That.

[Van Lathan]

Billy. Leave it.

[Joel Anderson]

Alone. Stop. I don't need. I don't need. I don't need any more.

[Tate]

Enemies. Oh, ball tip to the.

[Joel Anderson]

Line. Oh, man, y'. All. My feet are so many. There's so many seconds behind.

[Tate]

Oh, what streaming service are you on.

[Joel Anderson]

Joel? I'm on YouTube TV.

[Tate]

Man.

[Van Lathan]

Okay. Oh.

[Joel Anderson]

Really? Yeah, I.

[Tate]

Got. That's what I'm on.

[Joel Anderson]

Too. I finally. I had my. My assistant to cancel my DirecTV.

[Van Lathan]

Man. Just finally my.

[Tate]

Assistant. Damn. You had double. Double cable going on for a.

[Joel Anderson]

While. Well, I had to get it, if you remember, if you recall, because we didn't have.

[Tate]

YouTube. Yeah, we didn't need it. For four.

[Joel Anderson]

Months. No, it was two months. That's how fast the world has moved. I think it was at the top of November and I got it for then and I had paid for December and I think. I'm not trying. I don't remember. Do you guys? I'm not gonna go over my bills with y'.

[Tate]

All. Oh, has the assistant been nice?

[Joel Anderson]

Joel? I love her, man. She's great.

[Van Lathan]

Fantastic. What's you guys opinion about the never ending hitch route that. That exists that you seemingly can throw to any athletic player on the outside in college football, like right now, they need to put themselves in a useful down and distance to have a chance to go for this. And again. And they just throw the hitch and branch goes and gets. Goes and gets.

[Joel Anderson]

It. You know that's right. What.

[Van Lathan]

Man?

[Joel Anderson]

He. I. I mean, I know Branches seems like he's had a really good game and he has, but he also has eight receptions for 67 yards. I just didn't realize, man. I was talking about this earlier today, bro. Guys, don't they seem to barely wear leg pads anymore? I just. They look like they're out there in shells. I just cannot believe they're so willing to have their legs exposed like that out there. Well, nobody had anything else to say about that.

[Van Lathan]

Okay. Hey.

[Tate]

Hey. A two minute warning.

[Van Lathan]

Okay? Something just distracted me. My old. My homeboys are hitting me up because my high school and college girlfriend is on the pop the balloon.

[Joel Anderson]

Show. Oh.

[Van Lathan]

Really? I thought she was.

[Tate]

Married. Is she popping the balloons or holding a.

[Van Lathan]

Balloon? She is the. The one that is going and having the people pop the balloon. She is the. The.

[Joel Anderson]

She's. She's the Rachel shooters, basically.

[Van Lathan]

She. She's the. Yeah, she's the. She's the one.

[Tate]

That. They're the subject of the.

[Van Lathan]

Popping. The subject. The subject of the.

[Joel Anderson]

Popping. We'll send the link. What's.

[Van Lathan]

Up? What's up, everybody? They haven't sent me a leak. They just sending me.

[Joel Anderson]

Stills.

[Van Lathan]

Okay. They're like, hey, yeah. Oh, you know they did. They just sent me a.

[Joel Anderson]

Link. Yeah. Share with the.

[Van Lathan]

Family. They sent me a link. She. Hold on, I'll send it to you guys. She. She. Is she really mad with.

[Tate]

Me?

[Van Lathan]

What? What? What.

[Joel Anderson]

Man? Billy up here actually quote tweeted these, man. Come on.

[Tate]

Dog. Billy, I told you I have your.

[Joel Anderson]

Back. You do not. You do not have my back. What do you mean? I just don't want to. I don't even want to read the.

[Tate]

Tweet. Joel, it sounds like he has your.

[Joel Anderson]

Back. I don't even damn. Don't do by Joel Anderson like this. That's my guy. I mean, what.

[Van Lathan]

A. Hold on. I'm about to. Billy, I'm about to do.

[Joel Anderson]

It. No.

[Van Lathan]

Vamp. Come.

[Joel Anderson]

On.

[Van Lathan]

Man. Billy. Cause Billy. Billy, come on. That's what we all should be doing.

[Tate]

Bro. We're family. I retweeted what.

[Joel Anderson]

Billy. No, I mean, y' all should do it. Y' all should do it with some real in your heart and not. Why don't you guys should do it to support me.

[Tate]

Bro? Why don't you say exactly what. What should be tweeted at.

[Van Lathan]

Them? Nothing. Yeah, tell me what should. Nothing should be tweeted at the. You.

[Joel Anderson]

Don'T. You don't.

[Van Lathan]

Interact. Everybody on this right now. Everybody on this right.

[Tate]

Now. That's all people. The same thing. Hey, guys, you give us the.

[Joel Anderson]

Template. Guys, don't look the chat. Don't do it.

[Van Lathan]

You. Who are you going to support on.

[Joel Anderson]

This? Right? Everybody on the chat don't like.

[Van Lathan]

Quote, tweet this, quote, tweet this. Matter of fact, somebody put. Somebody put a link to the tweet into the.

[Joel Anderson]

Chat. Come on, man. Yeah, don't. Please. No, don't do.

[Tate]

That. Need to let Reddit see if.

[Joel Anderson]

The game is going on. 3rd and N. Hold up.

[Tate]

Joel. They're gonna know your. Your strength in numbers at this.

[Joel Anderson]

Point. Here we.

[Tate]

Go. Third.

[Joel Anderson]

Nine. Oh. Oh.

[Tate]

Man.

[Van Lathan]

Oh, my daddy.

[Joel Anderson]

Flag. Oh.

[Tate]

Trinidad. Oh, that's a tough.

[Van Lathan]

Flag.

[Joel Anderson]

Oh. Oh, man. They haven't been this mad.

[Tate]

Since. Since when.

[Joel Anderson]

Joel? 1968 Civil Rights.

[Tate]

Acts. I was hoping you're gonna say. Do you guys not remember.

[Joel Anderson]

That? That's not fair. Y' all remember that. Y' all remember that? Man, I shouldn't even with that man, because you know what? Oh, but wait. He grabbed old boy by the helmet. That's on Georgia, right? Is that.

[Tate]

Opi? I mean, you can't review a flag, right? Oh, yeah, there's the tweet right there. If you're watching. Graphics in real time, I was.

[Joel Anderson]

The only one to show appreciation for your work before the show even began, and now y' all be supporting you. Oh, he jumped over him. Oh.

[Tate]

Damn. Oh, wow. Okay, no, Joey, now you're back on schedule. Timing wise, we're on the same schedule. 145 to play here. Obviously, Georgia. I mean, they're milking the clock. When will Ole Miss start taking.

[Joel Anderson]

Timeouts? I was wondering about that. Like, what is their plan.

[Tate]

Here? I thought they want to go to overtime. First down run, you know, they.

[Joel Anderson]

Want. They want to Go to.

[Tate]

Overtime. It looks like it. That's how they're playing. Like it.

[Joel Anderson]

Man. P. Golden, first time head coach.

[Tate]

Man. Yeah, this is the stuff. He basically has said that this is the reason he doesn't like me. He didn't want to be head coach. He's like, I like, just calling the defense, you.

[Joel Anderson]

Know? Oh.

[Tate]

Man. There's a lot more that goes into.

[Joel Anderson]

It. Oh.

[Van Lathan]

Man. They got another flag. I think that flag. I don't know if that. That flag might be.

[Tate]

Opi. I think that was hold or. Yeah, I think it's holding on the defense. He grabbed.

[Joel Anderson]

Him. Come on.

[Tate]

Man. Let's.

[Joel Anderson]

See.

[Tate]

Wow. Holding on the.

[Joel Anderson]

Default. Look at Pete golden, man. He's like, y'. All. You Slick Devils. Oh.

[Tate]

Man. That's exactly what he just.

[Van Lathan]

Said. Oh, that was, though. Oh.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah, he did. He held him. He did.

[Tate]

Yeah. Yeah. He. I mean, he thought it was a touchdown. That's why he was like, I'll save the touchdown by holding first and.

[Joel Anderson]

Goal. So. Again. Okay, well, we don't. Okay, let's see what happens here, man. That's a.

[Van Lathan]

Good. This time, Georgia. If I'm Georgia here, I'll. I'll run the ball here.

[Tate]

Right? I mean, you're trying to score a.

[Joel Anderson]

Touchdown. Yeah, of course they're gonna. Oh.

[Tate]

Man. Oh, get.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. Ole Miss. But.

[Tate]

Now. Now you call.

[Joel Anderson]

Timeout. Yeah.

[Tate]

Okay. Man, I feel like the Manning cast right now when. This is how they are. They're watching games. All they do is. Yeah, now you call.

[Joel Anderson]

Timeout.

[Tate]

Yeah. Yeah. So what do you want the tweet to say, Joel? Just so we're all on the.

[Joel Anderson]

Same page, I want you guys to leave them alone and say nothing as a show of support, because, again, messing with people you don't follow ain't is kind of ho. Shit. As I've explained previously, at the top of the show, you know, you don't follow him. Y' all got nothing to do with this. And y'. All, this. This is engaging in.

[Tate]

Ho. Well, I followed him, so it's not.

[Van Lathan]

Ho. Oh, you know, got to follow him.

[Tate]

Too. Yeah, you got to.

[Joel Anderson]

Follow. I.

[Tate]

Follow. Let me follow.

[Joel Anderson]

Him.

[Tate]

Follow. Good.

[Van Lathan]

Idea.

[Tate]

Follow. Yeah, let me follow. Everybody in the chat, follow.

[Van Lathan]

Reddit. Everybody in the chat, follow Reddit.cfb as well. I.

[Tate]

Already. I already followed.

[Joel Anderson]

Reddit. C. This is why y' all didn't get credentialed.

[Tate]

Joel. They don't follow me. Don't feel.

[Joel Anderson]

Offended. They want a.

[Tate]

Professional. No, we're being professional. We're supporting artists, you.

[Joel Anderson]

Know? Yeah.

[Tate]

Yeah. And you and you, our co host. All right, we're all locked.

[Joel Anderson]

In. I want you all to stop.

[Tate]

That. We should do hell week in the off season and let Joel, like.

[Van Lathan]

Explain. Like, you know who the biggest hoes.

[Tate]

Are? Yeah, biggest.

[Joel Anderson]

Hoes. I know a few right.

[Van Lathan]

Now. Hey, people are starting to Tweet@Reddit CFG. Yo, I don't understand why you don't. This is a. This is something I. I gotta tell Tate and them. This. Y' all don't. Y' all wouldn't understand this because this is something y' all don't deal with, but this is something sometimes that exists, like, within our community, within the black community, with brothers not knowing how to accept, support and.

[Joel Anderson]

Help. Stop it. Get out of.

[Van Lathan]

Here. Because we're grown up and we're grinding up by this. We're grounded up by this society, right? The same society that lets Tate have two Christmas trees. It grinds. It grinds on me and Joel. Grinds on me and Joe. So what happens is when we get help, sometimes we push the help out. What did Kendrick Lamar say? He said, like, I. I like. If you. If you show me love, I might reject your love. When he said that in the Father time joint from Ms. Morale and the Big Steppers, he said that that's what Joel is doing right now. If you show me, I might reject that love. And Joel is rejecting that love because he doesn't know how to experience.

[Tate]

It. Crabs in a buc bucket, right? That's what you're.

[Joel Anderson]

Saying. No.

[Van Lathan]

I. Look, hold on, Tate. I'm not saying anything about goddamn crabs in the bucket.

[Tate]

Okay? That's a.

[Joel Anderson]

Theory. That's how y' all are.

[Van Lathan]

Being. That's how. No, I'm. What I'm saying is we don't know how to accept the love. You talking about crabs in the.

[Joel Anderson]

Bucket. I know. The thing is, I'm smart enough to know when love. Where the love exists. I've experienced many kinds of love, and I know that is not love. All right.

[Tate]

Okay. Georgia, third and goal. Oh, did a shoe come.

[Joel Anderson]

Off? Did somebody shoe come off out.

[Tate]

There? All right, so we got a field goal, and they got a.

[Joel Anderson]

Minute. Oh, they're going to kick a field goal? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. I mean, that's a responsible thing.

[Tate]

Yeah. Yeah. And then. And then Ole Miss turn it at Chambers is going to have a.

[Joel Anderson]

Minute. You got a.

[Tate]

Minute. Get another field.

[Joel Anderson]

Goal.

[Tate]

Okay. All right. And Ole Miss, I mean, their kicker, he set his career high 55 yarder, and then he said his career high 56 yarder right after it. So definitely the guy you want kicking a field goal to win the.

[Van Lathan]

Game. Nobody was.

[Tate]

Open. Yeah, Good.

[Joel Anderson]

Defense. Drew Hamilton. That drew Hamilton, 8026. That's right. That's right. What? I'm talking to people in the.

[Tate]

Chat. What are you. What's the chat.

[Joel Anderson]

Saying? I'm gonna do my own thing since y' all don't be supporting.

[Tate]

Me. And we.

[Van Lathan]

Are. I gotta build you. Yeah, he missed it. He missed it. I'm just.

[Joel Anderson]

Joking. Oh. I was like, damn.

[Van Lathan]

Man. Come.

[Joel Anderson]

On. I was like, what, Joel, what.

[Tate]

Is the chat saying to you in your side.

[Joel Anderson]

Chat? I mean, y' all can look at the chat. You know what I'm.

[Tate]

Saying? Oh.

[Van Lathan]

Man.

[Tate]

Y'.

[Van Lathan]

All. Y'. All. Y' all not supporting us. Y' all not.

[Tate]

Supporting. Joel's saying he's got soldiers in the chat that are not supporting.

[Joel Anderson]

Us. I didn't say I have any soldiers. I just. I'm trying to cultivate.

[Tate]

Some. So are.

[Joel Anderson]

We. Because.

[Van Lathan]

People. People.

[Joel Anderson]

That. People that would support me and not doing. Engaging in.

[Van Lathan]

Ho. We didn't engage in ho. We taking up for you on your side.

[Tate]

Bro. They're saying you have an army. Yeah, this is. You said you had no soldiers. Someone tweeted.

[Joel Anderson]

At. Yeah, I mean, GMOs. Only one with the army's. Only one with the army, not.

[Van Lathan]

Me. Hey, our top fans. I'm looking at our top fans. Our top fans on this. Number one is at ced 83. Said.

[Joel Anderson]

83. Okay. That's what's.

[Van Lathan]

Up. Number one. He's the number one king of. Of whatever's going.

[Joel Anderson]

On. Said.

[Tate]

83. Shout out. Said shout.

[Van Lathan]

Out. To shout out. Said every.

[Joel Anderson]

83. Is that said class of.

[Tate]

83? Sure, he could.

[Van Lathan]

Be. Or maybe he was born in.

[Joel Anderson]

83. Could be 183. Oh, yeah, that's probably more. Yeah, that's probably more. Yeah. Born in.

[Tate]

83. Class 83 is gene or which. Whatever your friend's name.

[Joel Anderson]

Is. Right, Gene?

[Van Lathan]

Stojo. We got more tweets popping up. Hashtag Joel, army is popping.

[Tate]

Up. Yeah, yeah. That's what we're saying.

[Joel Anderson]

Joel.

[Tate]

Cool. Hashtag, let's go look at my.

[Joel Anderson]

Boy Decker in there, man. I know. I know. Decker got love for me, dog. That he.

[Tate]

Said. That is true that Joel has engaged with the chat more than any of us. So he actually knows black game.

[Joel Anderson]

12. That deck, man. Deck was my roommate when I looked my first move to. To New York, man. We're both. Both. Both married men. Two children. Not that you know, again Nothing. You know, Decker. Decker is an example of a father that I want to be. When I was trying to be a father, I was like, I want to be the kind of father that Decker is.

[Van Lathan]

So. Shout out. Why is he such a good.

[Joel Anderson]

Father? Why? He's just really engaged, man. He's out. You know.

[Van Lathan]

He'S.

[Joel Anderson]

He. It's. There's no relationship or parenthood thing where it's truly equal because the. The kids are always just going to gravitate to the mom and some. Maybe that's a cop out in some ways, but, like, the kids just demand more for the mom. But once you get past that, Decker is like. You can see that he's as much a primary parent as his wife. I just. I've never seen anybody put in as much work to be a dad as Decker.

[Tate]

Did. And so is he in the chat? Why are we talking.

[Van Lathan]

About. He.

[Joel Anderson]

Is. He was in there.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. Shout out to.

[Tate]

Decker. Appreciate you. I like. You know, we need good fathers out.

[Joel Anderson]

There. Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Man. Chambers Legacy Drive. Also, remember, the Ole Miss kicker has incredible.

[Tate]

Range. Yeah. Like I said, 55, 56 already in this.

[Van Lathan]

Game. Yeah. Incredible.

[Tate]

Range. Are they. I mean, they just ran the ball and they're letting the clock run. They're playing for.

[Van Lathan]

Overtime. I don't know that they are. I think they were trying to keep them off guard a little.

[Joel Anderson]

Bit. Now they're gonna pass for me. Oh, man.

[Tate]

Oh. Oh, he's.

[Joel Anderson]

Hurt. He's hurt for.

[Tate]

Real. Oh. Any stand. They just stepped over him while he was down.

[Joel Anderson]

Man. Damn. All right, homeboy. He sucks. Oh, man. Lee. A leaf. A leaf for an Ole Miss. Came up short then Ole Miss and Lee came short again. Man, who have I heard that story.

[Van Lathan]

Before? That's.

[Joel Anderson]

Funny. Frederick Gray's leak, so I hope he's okay.

[Van Lathan]

Though. You gotta. You gotta. You gotta pick that.

[Tate]

One. Fifteen for.

[Joel Anderson]

Real? Yeah, man. Gotta make a play. What they say. Gotta make a play. Oh, man, he's really.

[Tate]

Hurt. He got.

[Van Lathan]

Rocks. Yeah. You talking all that about him? Talking about some confederate. The guys hurt. The guys. The.

[Joel Anderson]

Guys. Is he alive? I mean, he's not.

[Tate]

Even. No, he's good. He's. I.

[Van Lathan]

Mean, the way he.

[Joel Anderson]

Was. I mean, he was on that. I was like, oh, okay. I mean, I.

[Van Lathan]

Didn'T.

[Joel Anderson]

No. I mean, I know that he's probably in pain. He's agonizing because look at the crowd. Shot again at Reddit.

[Van Lathan]

Cfb. How you gonna do the college dorm wrestling champ of 1998? Like.

[Tate]

That. Joe, you have an army. We were trying to Tell you, the people are trying to speak for you.

[Van Lathan]

Joe. It's actually heartwarming. Everybody in the chat. If y' all could do. If Reddit, cfp, CFB will not know what hit.

[Tate]

Them. If they get. They will never quote, tweet you.

[Joel Anderson]

Again.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. Never.

[Tate]

Again. Get.

[Van Lathan]

A. Follow the. Georgia. The winner of this game plays Indiana. No. Indiana plays.

[Joel Anderson]

Oregon. No. The winner of this game plays by.

[Tate]

Miami. Miami. This is.

[Van Lathan]

Cart. We.

[Tate]

Want. I mean, for the drama. We kind of want Georgia to win for the legacy game. Carson back. Legacy game. You.

[Joel Anderson]

Know. You know what I had, though? Like, just a tinge of desire for old Mr. Win this.

[Tate]

Game. I mean, either way, it's good TV. No, no.

[Joel Anderson]

Shade. Yeah. You know, I mean, I just think. Yeah, it's a great story, you know, and I mean, they have been a traditionally not great football program, so.

[Tate]

Yeah. And it is kind of funny if they. Oh, that's touching. Oh, my.

[Joel Anderson]

God. Oh, my.

[Van Lathan]

God. This game is.

[Tate]

Over. Yeah, that's.

[Van Lathan]

Over. That is a insane.

[Joel Anderson]

Throw. Oh, man, that's.

[Van Lathan]

Some. That's a insane.

[Tate]

Throw. Now Jordan's got to call timeouts.

[Joel Anderson]

Right? I mean, yeah, well, yeah, for sure. I mean, dog, it's not. They're not getting the.

[Van Lathan]

Ball. Insane throw.

[Joel Anderson]

Man. They don't have any timeouts. That's.

[Tate]

Right. Georgia has three.

[Joel Anderson]

Timeouts. No, I'm talking about Ole.

[Tate]

Miss. Oh, yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah.

[Tate]

Oh. Why are you throwing the.

[Joel Anderson]

Ball? Okay, he's like, bro. He's like. Don't. Don't test me, dog. I like.

[Van Lathan]

That. Everett, you just had a chance to. To take this game to. Oh, it's over now.

[Tate]

Oh. Oh, man, he really could have. Yeah. He really have picked.

[Joel Anderson]

That.

[Tate]

Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. It would have been an amazing.

[Tate]

Play. That was a tough throw, but.

[Joel Anderson]

They said, make a play, son. Make a.

[Van Lathan]

Play. I. Am I wrong for thinking that you run this ball twice and then kick the field.

[Tate]

Goal? Of course. Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. Center it. But, oh, wait, they don't have a timeout, so they got to make sure they rush up back to the.

[Tate]

Line, and then I guess that's the reason.

[Joel Anderson]

Why. Yeah. So this is a 47 yard field goal. If they.

[Tate]

That's. That's.

[Joel Anderson]

Cash. What. What.

[Tate]

Happened? I guess they're scared to run and not.

[Joel Anderson]

Get. I don't think a 47 yard field goal. No matter in.

[Tate]

College. It's.

[Joel Anderson]

Cash. That's. That's. Man.

[Tate]

47. He's the best kicker in Ole Miss.

[Joel Anderson]

History. He just broke. Do you all remember Scott.

[Tate]

Norwood? I. I get what you're saying, Joel. Nothing's a guarantee. I'm just saying. This is. This is. Wow, what a.

[Joel Anderson]

Throw. Oh, man. I just. I don't know, because what if he gets sacked or something like that? I mean, I guess the thing is, they telling Trinity if he gets.

[Van Lathan]

Sacked, they shouldn't be throwing the football at all. That's what I'm.

[Joel Anderson]

Saying. I just kind of. I just don't. Okay, well.

[Tate]

Fine. Yeah, he's just throwing it.

[Joel Anderson]

Away.

[Van Lathan]

Okay. Just throwing that away. Here we go, Chambers. Okay, let's see what.

[Joel Anderson]

Happens. He said I did my.

[Tate]

Part. Yeah, yeah, he.

[Joel Anderson]

Did. I did my.

[Van Lathan]

Part. Half a milli on the line for. If you're laying Kiffin, do you want them to make the cake? And you know what? Half a million. You.

[Joel Anderson]

Don'T. I, man, have a million. Ain't nothing for killing Kiffin.

[Tate]

Man. Yeah, I think he. I think he's over it. I think he wants us to be over.

[Joel Anderson]

With. Yeah, he's like, man, I mean, I'm making how many million a year? 11 million a year.

[Van Lathan]

Now. Half a million dollars. A lot of money. Okay, let's see.

[Joel Anderson]

This. To me, for.

[Tate]

Sure. Joel has an assistant, man, I.

[Joel Anderson]

Don'T have the money to do it, but I need it. I need it. I need.

[Van Lathan]

It. Would you. Would you wrestle Lane Kiffin for a half a million.

[Joel Anderson]

Dollars?

[Tate]

Yes. Well, you challenged the fight. He challenged him to a fight for.

[Van Lathan]

Free. Yeah, that is.

[Joel Anderson]

True. I didn't say I would fight him. I said that if he had a problem with what I said.

[Tate]

You. You would answer the.

[Joel Anderson]

Bell. Yeah, well, I just said. I mean, I. I actually said I would apologize. I said if you think that what I said was that offensive and that I actually called you a hoe, I expect you to be smarter than that. But if you're not, then I. I'm sorry for calling you a hoe. For you thinking that I called you a.

[Tate]

Hoe. I kind of miss when you could ice the kicker three times, you know? Now you can't call three straight.

[Joel Anderson]

Timeouts. Oh, I.

[Tate]

Know. I feel like if he. If Kirby could ice him three times here, then it would be more drama. But, like, if he keeps waiting till different moments to ice.

[Joel Anderson]

Him. There's empirical data that icing the kicker doesn't.

[Tate]

Work. I know, but I still like.

[Joel Anderson]

It. I still like.

[Tate]

It. I like the pageantry of.

[Joel Anderson]

It. Kirby didn't do.

[Tate]

It. Oh, he made.

[Joel Anderson]

It.

[Van Lathan]

Game. Oh, yeah. He hit it. That's.

[Tate]

It. Yeah, that's. I'm telling you, that was.

[Joel Anderson]

Game. Oh, my.

[Van Lathan]

God.

[Joel Anderson]

Every. Everybody's Bracket is now.

[Tate]

Man. I got one.

[Joel Anderson]

Wrong. Yeah, but you. That was your. I mean, that was my.

[Tate]

Chance.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. I mean.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. Georgia. Oh, Georgia. Let Ole Miss do it to.

[Joel Anderson]

Him.

[Tate]

Right. What a story, though, for. For.

[Joel Anderson]

Old. Well, this is. It's so much better for them to. Yeah. For Ole Miss to be doing this, man. Oh. Oh, man, they ain't been this.

[Van Lathan]

Man. Oh, she's.

[Joel Anderson]

Crying. I know that nose.

[Van Lathan]

Crinkle. She's.

[Joel Anderson]

Crying. Oh.

[Tate]

Man. I mean, Chambers is a.

[Joel Anderson]

Student. Yeah.

[Van Lathan]

Man. Good is the.

[Joel Anderson]

Man. He really is. Man. Shout out to training that.

[Van Lathan]

Chambers. I cannot wait till he's at LSU next year.

[Joel Anderson]

Man. Would you rather have him a DJ Lagway.

[Van Lathan]

Or. Sam Chambers is not coming to lsu. I don't think he's gonna get the extra year. And even if he did, I think he'd go back to Ole.

[Tate]

Miss. Yeah, I don't think Ole Miss would let him go. I think they pay him well.

[Joel Anderson]

Man. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. It's. He's already done too much now.

[Van Lathan]

Right?

[Tate]

Yeah. LSU would, what, offer him 5 million? That seems to be the prevailing number. But Ole Miss would match.

[Joel Anderson]

That. Who's going to be the offensive coordinator at Ole Miss? They have a settled that.

[Tate]

Yet? No, It's Charlie Weiss Jr. Right.

[Joel Anderson]

Now. He just. Right, but he's not. But Charlie White's going to.

[Tate]

Lsu. Yeah. I mean, who knows? Maybe they dropped the. The Brinks truck for him, too. Who.

[Joel Anderson]

Knows? I always feel like it's just so undignified when a team loses like that. That. Oh, man, that looks sad. Oh, look, they talking. Look at.

[Tate]

Them. Safety. That's.

[Joel Anderson]

Game. Oh, look how they.

[Tate]

Talking. I mean, they deserve.

[Joel Anderson]

It. Yeah, man. Oh.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. I mean, you.

[Tate]

Play. They deserve.

[Joel Anderson]

It. They play the game. Look, Kirby. Kirby happy for.

[Tate]

Pete. Yeah, Kirby's. Kirby's all class, you.

[Joel Anderson]

Know. I mean, Kirby's not. He's one. One of the few people in the world who's not on the hot seat. And he can appreciate a great game and a great story and golding.

[Tate]

Work for him, you.

[Van Lathan]

Know?

[Tate]

Yeah. It's kind of like seeing like, a guy that, you know, is like, having his.

[Joel Anderson]

Moment. I'm sure. I'm sure he's hurt, you.

[Van Lathan]

Know. You know what would make me want to fight after a game? For people to do the belt thing. You ain't gotta whoop my.

[Tate]

Ass. Especially if it was Michael Irvin, you know, and he's got it on a cooler. That'd be wild.

[Joel Anderson]

Man. The only time in my life that I've Ever. Well, you know what? I shouldn't say it like.

[Tate]

That. Yeah, let's do it. Say.

[Joel Anderson]

It. So what happened? So I. I fumbled in our rivalry game my senior year, man. I'm not. Now my. My forward motion is stopped. And then I, I. And I was in a pile, and somebody took the ball out of my hands. It fumbled. The guy picked it up, ran in for a touchdown. We lost the game 14 to 7. And so I was just hurt. Like, I just could not get that out of my head. End of the game comes. St. Thomas is running around the field whooping it up. And the cheerleaders come over, and they. They're, like, talking to me while I'm sitting on the ground. I like crying. I'm, like, sitting there.

[Tate]

Crying. Oh.

[Joel Anderson]

Man. And I was like, Man, I really. It was like, the one time I was like, I could hit one of y', all, man. I really. I really. I really would like to. One of y' all up right.

[Tate]

Now. Did you raise the roof.

[Van Lathan]

Instead?

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. No.

[Tate]

Song. That would.

[Joel Anderson]

Be. I didn't raise the.

[Tate]

Roof. That would be like. I created this. Have you.

[Joel Anderson]

Guys. I was down, though, bro. Like, that was not a real fumble, but it's.

[Tate]

Nothing. It was on the list. It was on the whistle, right? Forward.

[Joel Anderson]

Progress. Wait, what's.

[Tate]

That? You're saying it was forward progress, like it should.

[Joel Anderson]

Have? Yeah, for progress. Yeah. I thought the play. And you watched it on. I don't need to get into it, but on tape, I was like. I had stopped. My forward motion had stopped. Stopped. And they. They looked. I guess they let the whistle keep going. The ball got knocked out of my hands, and St. Thomas, 14, straight Jesuit.

[Tate]

Seven. I'm sorry, Joel.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. Yeah. I think y' all gonna hear about straight Jesuit.

[Tate]

Tonight. You could let it go, though. Like, you've accomplished a lot since.

[Joel Anderson]

Then. 30 years ago. 30 years ago this fall, you've.

[Van Lathan]

Been able to accomplish a lot.

[Joel Anderson]

Of. Yeah, I am. I'm. I'm proud. I'm proud of my little life.

[Tate]

Man. All.

[Van Lathan]

Right. So why. So why are you. Why are you.

[Joel Anderson]

Still. That still hurt? That's why. So I would have liked to have won that.

[Tate]

Game. You're just trying to give a reference point for what.

[Joel Anderson]

George? Yeah, I was giving a reference point. That's right. Yeah. But how it feels about when.

[Van Lathan]

People, when it was in your face, call you all kinds of hoes and did you. Did you. Did you square up with anybody? You put something on somebody's.

[Joel Anderson]

Ass? Nah, man. Because most. It was like, three cheerleaders that were in front of me that talked this to me and then want to play. And then one of the players. Boxing classes shout out Greg Gatlin, who. Who has Gatlin's Barbecue in.

[Tate]

Houston.

[Joel Anderson]

What? He's the one who returned the fumble. He's a good brother. Runs a. One of the best barbecue restaurants in Houston. But I always said I would never go to his restaurant, man, because that.

[Tate]

Hurt. Were you friends with the guy.

[Joel Anderson]

Now? I mean, I ran into him somewhere in the city. I can't remember, maybe a couple years later. And, like, it was cool. Like, we just. He was like, yo, bro, like, you know, you're a good player. You're a good player. Blah, blah, blah. You know, whatever. We went about our.

[Tate]

Business. They. They put one second back on the clock, by the.

[Joel Anderson]

Way.

[Tate]

Really? There's a stage in the.

[Joel Anderson]

Field. Yeah. Hey, man, Georgia, let me eat some chicken wings while y' all are still playing to celebrate your.

[Tate]

Demise on the.

[Joel Anderson]

Field. Do you know what I'm talking about? You know, the reference point there. I'm gonna eat some chicken wings while Georgia's playing, while they're losing in the playoffs. Yeah, I don't remember.

[Van Lathan]

That. When they.

[Joel Anderson]

Play. They were playing TCU in the national champion, maybe. People probably turned.

[Tate]

Off. You know why? Georgia was eating chicken.

[Joel Anderson]

Wings. Yeah, Georgia was eating chicken wings when they were beating TCU late in the second half of that national championship win. I was.

[Tate]

Like. It was.

[Joel Anderson]

Funny. Somebody brought him a plate of chicken wings. They're like, oh, now. Eating chicken wings while I really. They're beating tcu. Well, y'.

[Tate]

All, you have so much hate, like, pent up inside. Don't let some of this go. That's true, I think, you know, I'm really a.

[Joel Anderson]

Love. I'm a lover, not a fighter.

[Tate]

Man. No, someone pointed this out, Joel. Like, I listened to you on the press box. It is like two different people. Like, you know, like, Joel Anderson on the press box is. Is one wolf. Wolf. And then Joel Anderson on this show is a totally different wolf, which.

[Joel Anderson]

I appreciate, you know, all the same. All the same.

[Tate]

Guy. I like. I like the range, though. It's good. I had someone. Like, I heard this whole podcast that Joel did on Clarence Thomas. It was so.

[Van Lathan]

Great. Oh, I hear.

[Tate]

About. Then I hear him on tailgate. I can't believe that he's the same person if you guys treat him that.

[Van Lathan]

Way. Hey, bro, the clearance. The clearance. Thomas Park. If you guys. I don't know if Joe even get. Gets anything for it, but Like Slow Burn. Clint Thomas. Slow burn. Who was the other guy y' all did it on? David Duke. Some of the best work ever. It's some of the greatest work ever. But you come over here and he on there, he's talking all this. Here he wrestling guys in his.

[Joel Anderson]

Dorm. It's the same guy.

[Van Lathan]

Eating. It's the.

[Joel Anderson]

Same. I was 18 to 19 years old when I was wrestling them dudes. Dudes, man. And I. And wrestling is not. I mean, again, like, y' all didn't wrestle. Y' all didn't wrestle. You tussle, you in shadow.

[Tate]

Box. I think you said tussling, which I think is what some people are. Yeah, that's what got people was the.

[Joel Anderson]

Tussling. Oh, George, in this game. There's not a second left in this.

[Tate]

Game. Oh, there we.

[Joel Anderson]

Go. Stop it.

[Tate]

Gator. A bath. Pete Golding. Honestly, good Gatorade bath response there from Pete Gold. He didn't even.

[Van Lathan]

Flinch. You know.

[Joel Anderson]

What? And I'm gonna give. I'm gonna give old Peak. Pete Golding is wearing a really nice. That hoodie is really nice.

[Tate]

Man.

[Joel Anderson]

What?

[Tate]

What? We got more drama. They're saying game not over. They. I think, like, onside kicked the punt and then recovered it. And no time went off the.

[Joel Anderson]

Clock. So they're going to give. This is.

[Van Lathan]

Unacceptable. The second. The second didn't go off the clock because they recovered the.

[Tate]

Ball.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. So Georgia's going to get a one last.

[Van Lathan]

Play. George is going to get another play, and they gonna score on.

[Tate]

This. That's what it feels like. We're gonna have a Gatorade bath and then a Georgia.

[Joel Anderson]

Touchdown. Who was old boy that got. That was a Guy Morris. The Kentucky. That was the LSU game, wasn't it? Where he got. He got the Gatorade bath. And then they had to run it back. And then LSU won on a. The bluegrass miracle. Yeah, man, Georgia looks. Oh, man. They gotta bring the.

[Tate]

Whole. Oh, yeah. No, it's. This is a debacle. This is, like, so.

[Joel Anderson]

Mismanaged. This is. I mean, America in a nutshell, man. It's still.

[Tate]

America, Joel. It's been a couple weeks, but you want to name Decker your daddy of the.

[Van Lathan]

Day? Yeah. Who's the daddy of the.

[Tate]

Day? Who's the daddy, Joel? Wasn't it Decker? Wasn't that your friend? Such a good dad.

[Joel Anderson]

Decker. He's a great.

[Tate]

Dad.

[Joel Anderson]

I'm. Yeah, a lot of great.

[Van Lathan]

Dads. Last play for Georgia.

[Joel Anderson]

Okay. This is the stupidest thing ever, man. I'm so mad about this. This is so.

[Tate]

True. I mean, I'm.

[Joel Anderson]

Just. I'm like, what did you do, Hunt gun of Stockton? Why did. I mean, you didn't even try to throw it down the field. What are the odds that you're going to do this, man? This is. This is undignified.

[Tate]

Joel. It's not over.

[Joel Anderson]

Yet. It's undignified. You're not going. They're. You're not going to win this way. She should have thrown it down the field. This is ridiculous.

[Tate]

Man. What if somebody gets really hurt? It was a forward.

[Joel Anderson]

Pass. What if somebody really gets hurt? Like.

[Tate]

This. Yeah. Another forward.

[Joel Anderson]

Pass. I would be so pissed if I was Pete Golding, man. I'm sure. I know he is.

[Tate]

Pissed. Yeah, I would have hit the. I would have hit the out of Gunner stocking right.

[Joel Anderson]

There. Oh, yeah, man. Yeah. Make.

[Van Lathan]

It. Somebody just said randomly said Tupac in the chat. This was a great.

[Joel Anderson]

Game. Yeah, it.

[Van Lathan]

Was. All.

[Tate]

Right. Finally. We had a good.

[Van Lathan]

Game. Real quick, before we go. Okay, so our matchups are set. Miami, Ole Miss, Oregon, Indiana. What a motley.

[Joel Anderson]

Crew.

[Van Lathan]

Of. There's not a blue blood in the final.

[Joel Anderson]

Four. No, man. Somebody weird is going to win the championship this.

[Van Lathan]

Year. I'm. Of those four. I don't think that you could.

[Tate]

Say I would take Oregon. Of those.

[Joel Anderson]

Four. Yeah. Oregon.

[Van Lathan]

Probably. No, I'm saying Oregon's a. You think Oregon's a college football blue.

[Tate]

Blood. I'm just saying of those four teams, I think that's a good draw for.

[Joel Anderson]

Oregon.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think Oregon's gonna win the national.

[Tate]

Championship. I honestly, Indiana looked like Indiana.

[Van Lathan]

Is gonna clearly win the national championship.

[Joel Anderson]

Now. Yeah. I don't say clearly Oregon because anything can happen. But yeah, I think they're the. The. Yeah, they're the odds on favorite. I guess Fanduel will give us the odds on.

[Van Lathan]

This. But the more interesting game is who wins. Who wins the Miami Ole Miss.

[Joel Anderson]

Game? You gotta give me Miami.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah.

[Joel Anderson]

Really? Yeah, I think Miami. I mean, obviously we're still underestimating Ole Miss. This is an incredible win.

[Tate]

Yeah. I feel like Chambliss is the difference, though. Like, if you believe in Ole Miss, it's because you believe in.

[Joel Anderson]

Chambliss. But that's what I was gonna.

[Tate]

Say. I think Mezador and Reuben.

[Van Lathan]

Bane. Hey, Drew Hamilton, 8 026.

[Tate]

Yes. What'd he.

[Joel Anderson]

Say?

[Van Lathan]

Nothing. Drew Hamilton, 8, 8.

[Joel Anderson]

02. What about this week? What about this week? You should try.

[Van Lathan]

Again. Yes. The answer is.

[Joel Anderson]

Yes. Van. Try again this.

[Van Lathan]

Week. All that. So is Miami a blue.

[Joel Anderson]

Blood?

[Tate]

No. Yeah, I.

[Joel Anderson]

Guess. I mean, it's just kind.

[Tate]

Of. It's always like.

[Joel Anderson]

Yukon. Is Yukon a blue blood in basketball? No, see, it's kind of feel like a.

[Van Lathan]

Seed. Is Yukon.

[Tate]

You. Are you saying women's and men's? Are you doing like.

[Joel Anderson]

Men'S? I meant and this because women's, they clearly are women's for.

[Tate]

Sure. I mean, men's this centuries for sure. I mean, you can make the argument, but I'm just saying blue blood is a tough. It's like if you want to take Indiana out and put in Yukon for men's basketball, I mean, I can, sure, whatever. But. Yeah, that's a tough.

[Van Lathan]

Conversation. So.

[Tate]

Okay. I mean, blue bloods in college basketball. Basketball, it's five.

[Joel Anderson]

Teams.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. Oh, what are the.

[Tate]

Five? North Carolina, Duke, Duke, Kentucky.

[Joel Anderson]

Kansas.

[Tate]

Yeah. Kentucky, ucla. Those are your.

[Joel Anderson]

Five. And it's just like you could say Arizona.

[Tate]

Right? It's like the next six to.

[Van Lathan]

Ten you could go, oh, the Duke is out. Yeah, Duke said it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Oh, now he's back. So, so, so then. And college football. Blue bloods then, of the final.

[Tate]

Four. Oregon, new.

[Van Lathan]

Blood. Indiana. New.

[Joel Anderson]

Blood. Man, Oregon's been good for 30 years now.

[Van Lathan]

Joel.

[Joel Anderson]

Championship. That's fair point. Fair.

[Van Lathan]

Point. So, so, so you can't be a blue blood, right? You don't have any national championships. Impossible. So Oregon, Indiana, Ole Miss, Miami. This is the first time I would say in this, in these Final Fours that there's not a blue blood in.

[Joel Anderson]

There.

[Tate]

Damn. Miami's the only arguable.

[Joel Anderson]

One.

[Van Lathan]

Miami. Miami's the arguable one.

[Tate]

Right? Yeah, yeah. Michael Irvin's gonna put a.

[Van Lathan]

Picture. Okay. You can say that Miami is a. Is a blue blood, but if you're looking at the blue bloods, maybe even the year the LSU was there, there was no blue blood blood. You can maybe look at that because, like, that year, it was what, lsu, Clemson, Clemson, Texas. What was the other.

[Joel Anderson]

Team?

[Van Lathan]

Texas. Not Texas. Lsu, Clemson.

[Joel Anderson]

Oklahoma. Oklahoma.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. Lsu, Clemson.

[Joel Anderson]

Oklahoma. Oklahoma's a blue.

[Tate]

Blood. Oklahoma's a blue.

[Joel Anderson]

Blood. Oklahoma's a blue.

[Van Lathan]

Blood. Oklahoma's a blue blood. Okay, cool. Texas is a blue blood for like, whatever in this. I don't know, Miami, you could count Miami as a blue blood if you want, but Miami really hasn't been a consistent.

[Joel Anderson]

Enough.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. College football program to be on that level. I think they're like lsu. I think they're a tier two team. Yeah. And that's right. I think they're a tier two.

[Tate]

Team. And by tier two, you're saying like six to 12. You know, I think people here too, like, they, they go, like, what? Disrespecting my.

[Joel Anderson]

Program. It's like, I mean, yeah, I mean, when was the last time Miami won a conference.

[Tate]

Championship? This would be a chance. If Miami wins a national championship before an ACC championship, that would be one of the.

[Joel Anderson]

Funniest. That'd be.

[Tate]

Crazy. That would be ACC chaos in a nutshell right.

[Van Lathan]

There. And that's what they say. The, the, the, the, the chat says Miami has won five national championships and has played for like.

[Tate]

10. Yeah, we said, we said that they're the most blue blood that's.

[Joel Anderson]

In. Yeah, they're the most. I don't, I don't think that. Yeah, I mean, it's like Alabama, Oklahoma, I guess maybe usc, Michigan, Ohio State. How many more blue bloods Texas, I guess, can be in there? That's probably the first tier of college football. Bluebirds and whoever, you know, right after that is. And again, Miami has more national championships than a bunch of those teams. But I mean, and I'm sure that like, kids that are, that were born in like 1995, like, you know, they may have, they may feel differently about who the blue bloods are. We, our knowledge, our frame of reference goes back away.

[Van Lathan]

So. Okay, well, all right then. Look, if, if we're saying that Miami is a blue blood, five national championships is a shit ton. If we're saying it. They, they are, they are not. As. Their blood isn't blue. Right. As, as blue right now as it's been in the.

[Tate]

Past? Yeah, it's a little bit.

[Joel Anderson]

Lighter.

[Van Lathan]

Yeah. A little bit clearer, lighter blue. But I guess my point is that this is a motley crew of, of a college football final four is certainly, I mean, the most interesting one that we've seen in a while. If you are Oregon, you have got to be clamoring for that national.

[Tate]

Champion. Yeah. Oregon, you got to be like, we're due. I mean, we have to win.

[Joel Anderson]

Now also Miami, you can't say that you're a blue blood and you haven't been. You haven't finished a season ranked in the top 10 since 2003. I mean, I'm sorry, that's just. I'm sorry, you.

[Van Lathan]

Can'T. I guess the question is, can you lose that status? Because, I mean, if that's the case, Nebraska was once.

[Joel Anderson]

One. Yes. Fair point. Yeah, but I.

[Tate]

Didn'T. Listen, you can, I think it's a 30 year grace period and then you lose it. Like Indiana basketball, last championship is 1988. You.

[Joel Anderson]

Know? Yeah. I mean, UCLA. I mean, was. You said it was 94.

[Tate]

95. 95. Jim Herrick. Yeah. So, like.

[Joel Anderson]

They'Re.

[Tate]

They're. They're on the chopping block, like, coming up, UCLA is no longer a blue blood now.

[Joel Anderson]

Yeah. Ty.

[Van Lathan]

Said. All right. They're saying we don't know what a blue blood is. Real quick.

[Joel Anderson]

Quick.

[Van Lathan]

What. What. What is a blue blood? To the chat, then the chat said, interesting logic. Two tier, two teams having the two best college football teams of all.

[Joel Anderson]

Time. I mean, but what does that.

[Van Lathan]

Mean? Y'. All. Y' all know how I feel about, like, 2019 LSU. By the way, that Miami team had a lot of Louisiana people on it. But. But. But, like, you're right. Ed Reed, New Orleans. So not a lot of Louisiana people. Some Louisiana people. What I'm saying is most of those guys are in Florida. I'll take away from that team. But. But to me, part of the blue blood thing is also the brand and the consistency each and every decade that you. That you kind of get to. I get. I understand what you guys are saying, but what y'. All. To the chat. What do y' all think of blue blood.

[Joel Anderson]

Is. Tell us on.

[Van Lathan]

Tuesday.

[Tate]

Yeah. Should we wait till then? Should we.

[Joel Anderson]

Wait? Yeah, let's wait till.

[Tate]

Tuesday. Let's.

[Joel Anderson]

Accumulate. Is.

[Tate]

Yeah. Is a playoff working? Like the 12 team playoff if you keep getting a final Four where everyone's kind of like, ooh, these are random teams and the bi week is.

[Van Lathan]

Hurting. I think it worked this year. I think today was a great day of ball. I. I am. I have never been more intrigued for a playoff game that doesn't involve LSU as the Ole Miss Miami game. That's a fascinating game. Yeah, that is. That is storylines and storylines and storylines. You got the Kiffin thing. You got Ole Miss in their first playoff appearance. You have Miami in their first 12 team playoff appearance. One team trying to get to something they've never gotten to before, another team trying to recapture something that they've had before. That is really interesting. I think this is. This might be. This four might be the most interesting Final Four that could have possibly.

[Joel Anderson]

Existed. Okay. All.

[Van Lathan]

Right. It's a little bit. I'm winning. It's a little bit more boring if Bama's in it. They've been there so many.

[Joel Anderson]

Times. Georgia be the clear favorite.

[Van Lathan]

Favorite. It's a little bit more boring if Ohio State's in it. But this group, this four teams right here, this is by far the most interesting Final Four you could have.

[Joel Anderson]

Had. And it Covers a tremendous cross section of the country. I mean, you've got Oregon at one end, Miami at the other, Indiana up here, Ole Miss down here. It really. It really, truly is like an.

[Tate]

Amer. Yeah, it's.

[Joel Anderson]

Awesome. From all four corners of the country.

[Tate]

Basically. Basically west coast, Midwest, deep south, and then Florida, which is his own thing. Or Miami, especially its own thing. So, yeah, pretty good. Also Pete Golding, if they win the championship, did they build him a statue? I would.

[Van Lathan]

Just.

[Tate]

Statue. Yeah, yeah. Build this guy's statue for sure. What a.

[Joel Anderson]

Championship. They gonna put it right next to Charlie Kirk. Okay, I'm ready to go. I'm trying to get a. The.

[Van Lathan]

End. Yeah. That was the way to do.

[Tate]

It. End of the.

[Van Lathan]

Show. That was the way to do it. We got last episode, we got nearly 800 people in here, which is with tailgate. I'm kidding. Tailgate. We going up. We got nearly 800 people. Appreciate y' all shows. How to show how. How you know the numbers. You could probably do if we could go later on in the day, whatever, but we got nearly 800 people in here. And Joel making jokes about that. That almost got everybody fired. All kinds of crazy. I guess we gotta go.

[Joel Anderson]

227. I mean, not. Not if. Not if Van Bill Simmons, Lathan stands up for your boy and y'. All. Y', all, you know, invest in that whole. We won't get fired. All right, let's go, Doug. I'm ready to.

[Tate]

Go. All right, Joel. I think Joel's trying to. Trying to end the show as he did a few weeks ago as well. We appreciate everybody tuning in to Ring of Tailgate. A lot of fun. We will be back next week. We're going to preview the games. We'll be live next week as the games are happening. We appreciate everybody tuning in. Let's do it one more time. Might be the last time. Appreciate everybody listening and we will see you next. Must be 21 or older in president. Select states for Kansas and affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 and older in present in D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-G GAMBLER or visit rghelp.com, call 1-888-78-97777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit MD gamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gambling helpline ma.org or call 800-327-5050 for 27 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text HOPE NY in New.