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Tate
Oh, yeah. Welcome back to Ringer Tailgate. It is a live edition of the show. Van has got the logo in the background. Joel's got the TCU sweatshirt on. And we got a lot of football to talk about. We got CFP quarterfinals coverage. We're ready to raise the roof. Let's get it going. Van Lathan. What's up, Van? How you doing, man?
Van Lathan
What up?
Joel Anderson
What up?
Van Lathan
What up? What a great day of college football, man. Can't wait to talk about it with my guys.
Tate
Yeah, we're fired up. We got an incredible game last night. A lot of conversation, a lot of cultural conversation. Michael Irvin was the star yet again. We'll get to that game for sure. Obviously, the shocking events of today. Alabama, the king is dead. It seems like we'll talk about that as well. But first and foremost, let's say what's up to Joel Anderson. Joel. What's up, dude?
Joel Anderson
Man. Riff. Ram Wazoo. Give them hell. Tcu. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, y'.
Van Lathan
All.
Joel Anderson
Did y' all see that Alamo?
Tate
That is true. Yeah.
Van Lathan
What is it? What is it? What's the thing again? What is it?
Joel Anderson
Riff. Ram Wazoo. Give them hell, tcu.
Tate
Why is Wazoo in there?
Joel Anderson
Don't. No idea. Don't know.
Tate
Maybe there's like a little.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, y'.
Van Lathan
All. Y' all give props to another school. And y'. All. Yeah, that's crazy.
Joel Anderson
What do we.
Van Lathan
You on some different. I'm saying you said riffram wazoo. What the wazoo got to do with it?
Joel Anderson
Oh, it's the wazoo. It's like W, A, Z, O, O. Like two different words. It's not like W, A white. I mean, my school is. My school was 2% black when I was there.
Tate
Yes, I. I looked it up. It is not Wazoo. It's Riff Rambazu. B, A, H, Z, O, O.
Joel Anderson
So why did you come in why did you come in?
Tate
I'm just trying to help you understand. Yeah.
Joel Anderson
What was the point of that? You all are gonna have to.
Tate
It's so many orders and omissions.
Joel Anderson
At some point, you guys are gonna have to stand up for me, man. You're gonna have to have my back on one thing.
Tate
Stand up for yourself.
Van Lathan
You came in and you said, riff, Ram, Wazoo. And you confused Tate. Me, because me and Tater, like, why would Wazoo be in there? But it's Bazoo.
Tate
Yeah.
Van Lathan
Your own.
Tate
I also looked it up to see why that is. And AI says a classic nonsensical cheer from Texas Christian University. Nonsensical.
Joel Anderson
It does not say that. Did this not say that? I'm not looking it up. I don't have time.
Tate
We don't have to look it up.
Joel Anderson
Well, I'm not allowed. I'm not allowed to look at the computer or chats or anything while we.
Tate
Yeah, we do want to shout out before we get into the show. Shout out to the chat, everybody. All the tailgate fans out there that are in the chat, that are locked in, that are excited to see Joel's reaction to the Alamo Bowl. We can talk. Talk about that at some point. 3rd and 20. An incredible play for the TCU horn frogs. USC spiraling at this moment. But let's start with spiraling.
Joel Anderson
Just because they lost to tcu, they just got the ass.
Tate
You said that. You said it was a signature win for the program.
Joel Anderson
Say that. We've had a lot of signatures.
Tate
Dan, can I get a secondary?
Joel Anderson
Something UNC wouldn't know about. Has not had in. In this decade. Go ahead.
Van Lathan
So LSU had LSU beat Alabama. LSU beatle Alabama. First year LSU beat on my. We've had signature wins. Here's the deal.
Joel Anderson
Ole Miss.
Van Lathan
The thing is, you said that it was. We'll have to do what we do, which is take your words and use them on the show. You said that it would be a big deal, a big win. It's a nice for TCU to beat SC because Scott is a blue blood ish type of school in college football. You said that on the show, which is fair.
Tate
I think it's a good point.
Joel Anderson
A lot of signature wins. Ruben T. 81. Oh, I guess beating Michigan in the semifinal. Not a signature win. Not beating ole miss in 2014. Signature win. Beating Texas eight or 12 years that they were in the Big 12. Not a signature win. You know. Okay, my bad. You got. Those are signature wins. It's not a signature win when TC don't Do it.
Van Lathan
I never said. You are the one who said that. A victory over USC in the Alamo Bowl.
Joel Anderson
Well, I was going.
Tate
I'm so glad to be back to the program. I didn't really.
Van Lathan
We gotta.
Joel Anderson
Look, just play the audio.
Van Lathan
Yeah, we gotta play the audio.
Joel Anderson
We gotta play the audio.
Tate
We'll get free.
Joel Anderson
It's a meaningful story. And that, like, it's when, again, TCU has been talked about more for beating USC than it would if we beat Southern Mississippi in a bowl game like we used to in the Mobile bowl days or whatever. Like, it's more meaningful to beat usc. And also because of the way USC responded so obviously like that, that whole little conversation around us winning. Did people expect to tune in tonight and to get so much talk about the Alamo Bowl? They probably did, to be honest.
Van Lathan
Well, I mean, yeah, because you.
Tate
Right.
Van Lathan
To launch this college football show, discussing Maryland, discussing tc, things like that.
Joel Anderson
Rough year for them, too.
Van Lathan
They probably knew that we would start off with the Alamo bowl, but meanwhile, the College Football Playoff is being played, right?
Joel Anderson
That's right. That's right. Yeah.
Van Lathan
But hey, but you know what, though? I'm gonna be real. That's. That's a gritty, gutty win by tcu. And you have been on the coach's head this. This entire year, Sonny Dykes. But for him to be able to pull his team together and get them to play up to snuff and go out and win the game, you gotta give him credit.
Joel Anderson
And win without Josh Hoover. Like, this is a guy. The quarterback is a guy that basically not paid for Ken Seals. Congratulations to him. But really, I mean, my boy Jerem, man, from Mo City. Just like your boy. Mo City. Mo City helping out TCU again, man. So I'm just. I'm pumped about that. You know, it's. I mean, the bowl season can mean something sometimes, right? Like, and that's the sort of. That's what we do this for. You know, you want to feel good about the people that schools you care about.
Van Lathan
What do you think is the biggest contribution of Most City? Like, the most thing that Most city.
Tate
Is known for isn't Travis Scott from Most city.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't.
Van Lathan
You know, that's what I was about to say is the actual world tragedy, right?
Joel Anderson
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That would be.
Van Lathan
No, that's also what I'm saying. Travis Scott, that's the thing that Most City. That's what you guys have brought the world so we can move on tape.
Joel Anderson
I mean, Beyonce used to Live in Mo City.
Tate
You guys are claiming Beyonce.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, Beyonce. Beyonce did. Used to live in.
Van Lathan
Can't claim.
Joel Anderson
Sure can. Sure can. Thurman Thomas. Thurman Thomas.
Van Lathan
That's. That's one. That's a good one, right?
Tate
That's a good one. Let's stick with that one over for Ford.
Joel Anderson
Not the only one. TJ Ford over the Super Bowl. College basketball city. Great.
Tate
Yeah.
Van Lathan
Yeah. He would never. Now he would never play because he'd have to compete with LaMelo Ball for time. So never get a chance to shine.
Joel Anderson
No, man, you know, you don't. You know, you don't know about those old Willer Ridge basketball teams, bro. Him. Ken, what was Kenny's last name? And then it was Daniel Ewing Jr. Yeah.
Tate
Duke.
Joel Anderson
Duke. That was a good. Those some good teams.
Tate
Yeah, Kenny good guards.
Joel Anderson
Can he play the bail in it? Kenny Taylor, he played it Baylor and then he played his last year at Texas. That team was a national champion, man. Wooler is shout out.
Van Lathan
Will it race? Shout out to Willard.
Tate
Well, this is a nice segue. You mentioned national champions. We're talking about teams that are trying to win the national championship. And let's start here. One big reaction. We had a lot of big moments, a lot of big games, and a lot of big conversations that have happened. You could go with, obviously, the Miami conversation. You could go with the Ohio State conversation. You could go with what Oregon did to Texas Tech and the Big 12. The Big 12 has obviously struggled in the CFP. They only have one win as a conference in the CFP era. So that's a talking point we could get into, obviously, what happened to Alabama, courtesy of Indiana and the Rose bowl today. But one big reaction. I'll start with you, Van. What is your big takeaway from what we've seen so far?
Van Lathan
I'm gonna let Joel go ahead and do Alabama because that's gonna be a local conversation. I want to talk about Ohio State and. And Miami. Listen, you guys. Ohio State got their nuts cut again. Yeah, they got it. You guys in the trenches. In the trenches. You guys remember the town when that guy's talking to you. Hey, it's hit your mom. There's two ways you do it, you do it the key. That scene is so rage inducing. I'm sitting there and I'm Ben Affleck. He goes, your mother. You went out there and you're looking for. I did it the chemical way. I gotta give her the taste. And you like. You talk about my mom. That. That dude, that was Miami.
Tate
That was Michael Irvin.
Van Lathan
That was just a digital chemically in the trenches. And they it when they lose under Ryan Day, the last couple of times we've seen them lose, think about it. We're talking about nut cutting, somebody beating their chest, standing over the carcass of Ohio State. When you look at how they lost to Michigan, when they. You look at how they lost that this game, they got pushed around, couldn't do anything with all of the talent that they have. And they have talent on every level, on every side of the ball. They just got into a situation where they can't block and tackle as well as the other guys. They can run faster, they can fly around, they can throw the ball. They got all the 40 times, all the measurables, but they get into situations and they cannot just block and tackle as well as the other team and they get completely suffocated. I really was surprised. I kept waiting when the toughness for Ohio State was going to show in the game. When they were going to say, all right, we're not getting pushed off the ball. Never came. There was a run that was made a little bit in the middle of the third quarter where it looked like they had some things going. Miami stood up and when it was time for a big boy, grown man drive late in that game to seal it, they just ran the ball directly. Gap, gap, gap. Dead. I could not believe it. Tells me a lot about the DNA of Ohio State as a program right now, obviously an elite program. But when they lose, it's these nut cutting, manhood testing losses. And we gotta talk about it.
Joel Anderson
I agree. I mean, the thing is, man, is we knew that if Miami had one chance, it was Ken. These boys block Masador or Ruben Bane. And because, I mean, they would give me.
Tate
Came out firing earlier.
Van Lathan
They could not block Mezador and Ruben Bane.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, right. And that's how the game came. And they lost exactly in the way that we suspect that they might. And the thing about Ohio State that was interesting is that. And again, it's one of those things. Every time they played against a quality defense, they really struggled to establish the run. They average like 2 yards a game. And they lost to Indiana. They lost two yards. They averaged like two yards a game in the win over Texas. So like anytime we'd seen it, we was like, oh, they actually can't exert their will. They can't exert their dominance or, you know, just take the will out of a team. Like they have to kind of finesse you, beat you with their incredible talent on the edge. But Winning in the. Winning up in. At the. In the trenches, at the line of scrimmage, was always going to be a chore against them. And that's the one. That is the thing that Miami has been built on. When it was. When it was great before and when it's really, really good right now, it's really tough to beat them in the trenches. And so they sort of lost in the expected way. But I hear what Van is saying. If you're an Ohio State fan, it doesn't make you feel good to think, why, why are we inferior to Texas or, you know, Indiana in the trenches? There's no excuse for that. Ohio State can be better than them, and they have been in the past, and I'm assuming they'll fix that this off season.
Tate
Yeah, the underlying part of this, too. Sorry to Van and cut you off. Just the Ryan Day calling the plays of it. All. Right. I mean, that was the other part with Heartline on the sideline, but heartline wasn't calling the plays. Ryan Day is calling the plays. Obviously, the last head coach that called plays and won the national championship was Mac Brown in 2005. So it's been 20 years since we've seen that. Van, did you think that played a role, right, Ryan Day having to call the plays and manage the game?
Van Lathan
I didn't think he called a particularly good game. You know, I got. Ryan Day is a just a incredibly gifted offensive mind, so I think he knows how to play flow and game flow and all of that stuff, but he didn't call a particularly good game. I. There were points in the game where Miami's pass rush looked to be not as ferocious as it was coming out of the gate. But I think that had more to do with the fact that Miami got a little gassed as the game went on. But then when it was needed for them to step up and make something happen, they stepped up and they made it happen. Look, when saying had time, you know, Jeremiah Smith had a day.
Tate
Yeah, he did. He had a great game.
Van Lathan
He had a great, great game. They were abusing the secondary. They were doing stuff. But I think of small plays. I think of things that I watch during the game that talk a little bit about the competitive integrity of Ohio State. And I'm not impugning the entire program by any of these observations. I'm just saying you have like a fourth and two or maybe it was a third and two, and you're looking at saying, and he has the opportunity to run and pick up a first down, he's out of time in the pocket, he's flushed a little bit and he throws the ball away. I want people to compare that. I know he's a younger player. First of all, let's go ahead and, you know, admit that he's a younger player. So these are things that he'll learn.
Tate
He'Ll see still red shirt freshman, right?
Van Lathan
Red shirt freshman. So you got to give him in that, in that, in that regard. But when you look at some of the other games that we saw, when you look at what Mendoza would do to get a first down, when you look at what Carson Beck would do to get a first down, when you look at how some of these players will put their body on the line and all of that type of shit, right? I'm just. It seemed like at times that Ohio State kind of acquiesced to the situation that they were in and they almost came to terms with the fact that Miami was tougher than them. So, yeah, the play calling. Every team has some guy that took some job somewhere. Nobody's playing with their stock weapons all firing. It seems like that, except for maybe Indiana. But I was just surprised as this game went along that I did not see more from Ohio State to say, you know what? We're not losing right now. We're not losing. We're going to step up, we're going to make plays, and nobody's going to be able to beat us right now. It just never happened. As a matter of fact, the opposite happened. Their will kind of got taken from them.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, it's weird too, man, because going back to the play calling thing, do you all think that, like, Ryan Day should take a little bit of criticism? Because, I mean, Brian Hartline was there. Like, if Brian Hartline is going to be there, like, why be disruptive in a situation like that? Like, why not? Again, Brian Hartline is the head coach of USF right now. Right? So that's part of it. But don't you think that they should, you know, like, just especially when you.
Tate
Have Oregon as an example where you have Stein calling the plays, right? I mean, that's. There is an example of the same situation happening where a guy is still calling the place for his team. And the pick six to me was really when the moment where I was.
Joel Anderson
Like, oh, wow, what a jump.
Tate
I mean, that was something they saw on tape.
Van Lathan
You know, they saw. They saw that on film. He just.
Joel Anderson
I mean, bro, it was funny because there's a moment in the play when I think it's 86 and I don't know if that's clear or whoever. Like, sees Keonte Scott make the jump on the ball and he's like, should I block him?
Tate
It was Jeremiah Smith.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, right. And it was just.
Tate
He ran right by Smith and Smith.
Joel Anderson
Was like, oh, I should have got him. Yeah, man. It just, I mean, he was, it was Travis Hunter esque. And it reminded me, I don't know if with the year that. Yeah, I mean, I guess I don't know if Van was laughing at me, but that's fine. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I saw. It's like a.
Tate
Hey, we're allowed to laugh. We're laughing.
Van Lathan
Travis Hunters.
Joel Anderson
But do you remember the AJ Terrell pick six in the national championship game? Yeah, it was like that. Like, I just, I yelled. I was like, oh, like they're, they're in real trouble now, right? Like when that happened, I was like, oh, they're in trouble like this. They're. They're automatically panicking right now. So. Yeah, man, it. Miami, man.
Van Lathan
Can I say something? Can we. I said earlier this year at the beginning of the year that Carson Beck would be dominant this year. Obviously, that, that, that did not happen.
Tate
Right.
Van Lathan
Hold Van accountable.
Joel Anderson
Daniel Van accountable.
Van Lathan
But can we give it up for Carson Beck in this game?
Tate
Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna raise the roof for him.
Van Lathan
I'm gonna raise the roof for Carson Beck in this game.
Tate
I was impressed.
Van Lathan
Stats like Carson Beck made big throws, but he also made several big runs, drives, extending runs. When everything was covered up on the back end, the. It's not like the, the talent portions of Ohio State's team didn't show up. Like, it was hard to get people open in the back end of that, that secondary. It's a really talented secondary. But when everything was bottled up, Carson Beck just kept putting the pressure on Ohio State defensively by finding little ways to. To. To peel off five, six yards and big third downs to make plays with his feet. He really was the most steadying thing that Miami had to. The run game took over.
Tate
And imagine if you told a Miami fan going into this game, just gave them the blind slate of this Malachi. Tony is going to have two fumbles forced by Caleb Downs. Fletcher is going to have a fumble that ends up being a turnover. You would say, okay, well, we definitely lost the game probably by a couple touchdowns. You would assume. So for Carson Beck to be that good and good enough to kind of preserve the offense despite all of those chaotic things that were happening around him, I think that was the most impressive part, it also showed kind of like a veteran quarterback who's been in that experience a lot versus saying who felt like that was the first time, especially in the first half. He played better in the second half, but he felt like he was a little gobsmacked as he kind of got his feet underneath him in this game.
Joel Anderson
It's funny because I agree that Carson Beck played well under the circumstances, and he made some great plays. Like, he ran for a first down. On third down, he got. I mean, the shit hit out of him, man. It was like a very brave and courageous play to extend and get that first down. But we talking about a guy that I don't believe is thrown for more than 250 yards combined in the playoffs yet, you know, and I just wonder. Eventually you. You got to think that's going to catch up with them. Like, Miami is, again, extremely talented on the lines. They've kind of got what they need there. But I don't think you can pass for 138 yards, win a national championship unless you know, you're Tommy Frazier in 1994. Nebraska.
Tate
This was also a possession game, though. You know, like, this wasn't for. This wasn't for stats. I mean, they were milking the clock the entire time. Knew that every single time that Ohio State was looking at the clock, they were like, damn, this game is getting away from us. And I just thought they did a great job, especially C.J. daniels. We didn't really talk about him as much. He showed up, but he was the. He was the safety net for Carson Beck this entire night. So, I mean, that was the other part. They were. This was a time of possession game all the way through, which is what Chris Stobel, AKA Crystal ball. That's what he wants. It was kind of perfect, right, man, which.
Van Lathan
Which it was certainly perfect. They were able to make Ohio State play the game the way that they wanted to play it. They were able to establish the lines of scrimmage and then sort of choke off Ohio State's explosiveness, make them be a little bit more methodical and in that, just wait for their style of football to win the game, which is what happened. And they just. Miami is playing with a tremendous amount of confidence right now, guys. And coming into the playoffs, you know, they. They get in barely, basically, in terms of, I guess, the national sentiment, but they have played like a team that believes that they belong there. They're playing with a tremendous amount of confidence, and they're playing like a team that can be anybody in the country.
Joel Anderson
Honestly, man. I mean, they talk some cash after the game, too, man. Like, I just. I've seen some of the videos.
Tate
Insane.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, I was.
Tate
He would be my number one pick, I think, man.
Joel Anderson
I mean, I assume he's gonna be a top 10 pick, but. Yeah, man, they are just. I mean, the. They were talking. It just feels good. I mean, I. I'm not going to get into the. Is the U back thing, because I think the thing about the U when we think about the U, is that they're national champions and the U didn't lose to smu. Right. Obviously, this is a different era, and obviously Miami is still very talented to win the national championship, but this is not that. But it's just cool to have, like, a talk in Miami. They seem good. They got a little swag. And I mean, man, they win another game, they might get to play the national championship game at home, you know?
Tate
Yeah.
Van Lathan
Crazy.
Tate
It is crazy. And I did like that crystal ball will not say the U is back. Every time they try to say the U is back to him, he keeps, like, saying it different. He's like, the U is here. He said, the U is moving on. The U is doing all right. He never says the U is back. Because I think he even. He is sick of that kind of conversation. It was also cool to see Jimmy Johnson after the game when Cristobal is doing the interview, and Jimmy Johnson's across from him, and he's, like, talking back and forth. You got Ray Lewis on the sideline with Michael Irvin. If you're a Miami fan, it just kind of was. It stroked all the, you know, the nostalgia points that you wanted. So it was a good night for the Miami Hurricane.
Van Lathan
I like to say something about this. You know, our. Early on, we made some jokes about Michael Irvin and how he was acting when he was cranking the siren. Now, listen, guys, I want to go back to this, and we can put that video in later of him cranking the siren. He was cranking the sign like he had a lot of energy. And we were basically alluding to the fact that maybe Michael Irvin down in South Florida had a little bit of extra energy and cranking the siren. All right? We said that. We joked, and y' all went so woke on us. Yeah, y' all went nuts, man. Michael Irvin, everyone got.
Joel Anderson
His wife is ill. He's trying to live his life. He's almost.
Van Lathan
He's getting his life.
Joel Anderson
Mama needs. Mama needs a life, too.
Van Lathan
Meanwhile, since. Since we pointed that out, Michael Irvin has become unhinged to a level that I don't think I've ever seen an alumni fan ever. Do you remember when Matthew McConaughey was hanging around in Texas games, jumping up and down and doing calisthenics like he was about to run out there and make a tackle? We haven't even seen him in years. They must not like him no more. But. But now we have Michael Irvin, who is also shredded. Right at his age.
Joel Anderson
Dog bro has an eight pack, man.
Tate
When he took the belt off, I was like, damn, Michael Irvin should play.
Joel Anderson
Like, he want. He wanted that torso.
Van Lathan
He took the belt off and he whipped a Gatorade. He whipped the Gatorade bottom with the.
Tate
Ohio State jersey on.
Van Lathan
Yeah, the cooler. He whipped. The cooler. He put. I want you guys to understand, this is what happened since you guys got at us for us saying that maybe Michael Irvin was high. Michael Irvin put Ohio State jersey on a Gatorade cooler, and then he whipped it with a belt. Okay?
Tate
His own belt.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
So just chill, man. Everybody's saying it. Everybody's having fun. People was posting that Elmo Meme. He's having a great time. We're not talking down on the brother, but God damn, Mike is going hard. I'm concerned for him, man. I'm like, so. So I. But. But I'm also super happy.
Tate
I hope I'm happy for him.
Joel Anderson
Hope. Hope.
Van Lathan
I need to get in much better shape, but I hope to be.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
On fire about LSU when I'm almost 60 years old.
Tate
You also want to have that lust for life, you know? Yeah, I. I love to see him care that much about Miami football. Like, I. I just. It makes you feel special, you know, it makes you feel like it means something. And he's turned it. Like, there was a clip of him on the sideline where he's talking, and then I just saw someone was like, he's not even talking to anybody. He's just, like, talking to the world. The powers that be, just amazing.
Joel Anderson
He's. I mean, that is. Dude, is. Is. It's a lot. For a lot of people, if they did it, it would come off as performative. But that is. No, that is how Michael Irvin became Michael Irvin, you know?
Van Lathan
Yeah.
Joel Anderson
Right. How he was the alpha in the Cane's locker room. In the Dallas Cowboys locker room. And to be that kind of a dude, you have to be a special kind of a guy. So, yeah, props to Michael Irvin and the Canes. Man, it's good to see Them. It's good to see them back a little bit.
Tate
Yeah. I just love all the stories, too, from the Jimmy Johnson era that come back around the 747. You know, I will. 47. All that sort of stuff. It's all good. But, yeah, Ohio State got their nuts cut, and that is a bit of a Buckeyes joke, so. I like that. Van Joel, one big reaction for you, and I'm sure it's about Alabama because, boy, am I still reeling from watching that game.
Joel Anderson
So do you guys mind if I do a dramatic reading for a second?
Tate
Yeah, I would love it. I know that the Reddit CFB won't like it, but we gotta talk about.
Joel Anderson
We're gonna talk. We can talk about. That's fine. I'm not worried about that. All right, here we go. Are y' all ready?
Van Lathan
Yeah.
Joel Anderson
Okay. Up. Thing about is they don't piss me off. The man on the field gotta see me. I'm gonna choke his ass out from snap the whistle. It ain't my fault. He's the next man on the schedule. We Bama, that's what we do. They talk that shit because they scared. We ain't talking no shit. That's the routine. That's how we do it. That will not change today. I promise you that. They may look like they want it, but I guarantee you they don't want it. I'm a let him know he don't want it from me.
Tate
Is this Paul Fine Bomb?
Joel Anderson
And it's Paul Fine Bomb. Strangely enough, that's right. Yeah. No, it was.
Van Lathan
It was.
Joel Anderson
Those are the words of the former Houston Yates legend, also the alma mater of Felicia Rashad, Debbie Allen and Roland Martin and Bama defensive line star Damian Square. And from what I'm able to tell, that speech came before Bama's game at LSU in 2012, and that was the game. The Tide won 22. I think was 2117. And the reason that speech goes viral is because it speaks to the Deacon. The deepest, darkest depths of the Alabama football soul. When they would just embarrass man, they would physically dominate and humiliate people. They shut out the number one. Look at the thing. Don't. Don't be that way, man. You know what I'm saying? Don't y' all be that way.
Van Lathan
What? Who's doing?
Tate
I'm with you.
Joel Anderson
I'm looking.
Tate
I thought listen for the Indiana. Did you hear the person.
Van Lathan
I'm waiting. I'm listening to you.
Joel Anderson
I heard somebody go.
Tate
I think that was. I think he turned his Mic on.
Joel Anderson
Don't do that.
Van Lathan
The Duke. The Duke is mad because Zoro Momdani got sworn in today. That's a bad day for the Duke.
Joel Anderson
But, yeah, man. I mean, see, yeah, that was. That was definitely him. Yeah, we'll stay off. Don't. Come on. Keep it. Leave it to the voice. But here's where we are today, man. So when Damian Squirrel was at Alabama, he won three national championships, and they won six from 202009 to 2020 and finished a season ranked lower than eighth only once over that stretch.
Tate
I'd say that's the golden era.
Joel Anderson
That is a golden era.
Van Lathan
You know, one of.
Joel Anderson
In 17 years, Saban lost by more than one score. Only eight times. You know how many times Deboer has done it in two years?
Van Lathan
How many?
Joel Anderson
Four. So it's over. The king is dead. They are the ones that got choked out today. That. That. I don't remember Alabama getting physically manhandled and humiliated in the way that they used to do Michigan State. You know, that's just not the Bama that I remember. And so I. Look, I think Bama fans are kind of crazy. I. You know, they have an unrealistic standard, I think, for a football team, but that's also what makes them great. But if they're mad today, I kind of get it.
Tate
Yeah. Bama's worst bowl law since 1991. The Fiesta bowl against Louisville, 34 to 7. Also Indiana's first bowl win since 1991. So we're talking 35 years since something like this happened in college football.
Van Lathan
Ole Miss just scored. The games tightening up a little bit. So 2118, you say. You say that Bama has an unrealistic sander. I had one. And you're right. You're right. And that probably is. I guess I'd say that that's. That more applies to the time before Nick Saban. A couple of the coaches that they ran out. Ran out of time before he got there. But for the most part, during the time of Nick Saban, the standard wasn't unrealistic. The standard was the standard. Yeah. The question is, is it an unrealistic standard now? And the answer is a resounding yes.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
Bama today, if I read these stats off to you, which team would you have said had 400 yards? Which team would you have said had 193 yards? Well, I'm telling you, one was Indiana and one was Bama. And Indiana had the 400 average yards per rush. 1.4 yards on the ground.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
1.4 yards on the ground. Bama, we're talking about Derrick Henry, Trent Richardson, Mark Ingram, TJ Yeldin. TJ Yeldin.
Joel Anderson
Bo Scarborough.
Van Lathan
That Bama. Bo Scarborough. That Bama. 17 rushes, 23 yards against Indiana.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, man.
Van Lathan
17 rushes, 23 yards. Their QB knocked out of the game.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
Who used to get knocked out of the game? People who were up against Colt McCoy, Anderson and DeAndre Francois.
Joel Anderson
Y' all remember Florida State had DeAndre Franco. Yeah.
Van Lathan
Their quarterback knocked out of the game.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
Remember what we talked about before this game? We talked about the fact that Indiana needed to win this game. And I was. Excuse me, I said that the Indiana needed to win this game. What we just saw right here is one of the most remarkable things that's ever happened in sports history. That's the changing of the guard. That's Ali versus Liston is what you just saw on the football field. That is that.
Joel Anderson
And when I say that, that's a really good analogy.
Van Lathan
I don't mean that Indiana is necessarily Ali. They could be, but I'm not saying.
Tate
That they might be.
Van Lathan
They might be. But what I'm saying is when Ali beat Liston, you knew that heavyweight boxing was completely different. Liston, the big, strong, tough guy, lost to the precise, confident, hyper athletic killing machine, which is what talked the talk.
Tate
Like Signetti, the talk.
Joel Anderson
Right.
Van Lathan
What you saw on that field was the new era of college football showing itself to the entire world. And man, did it show itself. I hate Alabama more than anyone in the world. At times I felt bad for them. I was like, they are getting their fucking asses destroyed.
Tate
It was the. Do something, man.
Van Lathan
The last thing I'll say Indiana expected it.
Joel Anderson
Yep.
Van Lathan
I didn't see any tears on their sideline. I didn't see any jumping up and down. I didn't see any. None of that. Indiana, their blood pressure never went up. Their heart rate didn't seem like it. They went in there and expected that. The standard has completely changed in Indiana. I don't know what Kurt Signetti does to people or does to young men, but whatever he does, that team thinks they could go out right now and beat the LA Rams.
Joel Anderson
So Connor, was it Connor that sent this? In our. In our group chat about it was a tweet from Was Dan Revell. Who was it that.
Tate
No, I think it was Albert Brer.
Joel Anderson
It was Albert Breer who asked.
Tate
This is the greatest.
Joel Anderson
Albert Breer.
Tate
It was a good question.
Joel Anderson
It was good question. Was this the greatest coaching turnaround? You know, do we need to dig into that? No, Sorry.
Van Lathan
It's fine.
Joel Anderson
Oh, my God. Stop. It is. It is. It is. Oh, man, I lost my trainer.
Van Lathan
Is this the greatest?
Joel Anderson
Well, man, I was trying to get to it twice. Are we just going to talk about what I was gonna try to talk about?
Tate
Are you gonna talk about what you're.
Joel Anderson
Trying to talk about?
Tate
What were you trying to talk about? Is the question.
Joel Anderson
Oh, man. It was about Albert Beer. It was the question that Albert Breer had asked.
Tate
Right.
Joel Anderson
About Alabama.
Van Lathan
Connor put it in the chat.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. If this was the. Yes, thank you. If this was the greatest turnaround in sports history. And at first I thought he said the greatest turnaround in CFB history. And I was like, oh, yeah. There's nothing like this. You're literally talking about the. One of the very worst teams in the history of major college football being number one in dominating, like in back to back games. Two of the three biggest brands in the sport, Alabama and Ohio State.
Tate
Right in the trenches.
Joel Anderson
In the trenches. And so.
Tate
But then like with fluke plays or like some spread offense, this was.
Van Lathan
This wasn't Boise State, Oklahoma. Right where they got schemed up or any. This was. Come here, little man. Yeah, get on my.
Joel Anderson
I'm here, little man.
Van Lathan
Come here, little guy. Get on my knee. Feel the force of daddy's love.
Joel Anderson
I like freak Slaything Junior.
Van Lathan
We freak is what I'm talking about.
Tate
Didn't you think that the example, what you're saying, Van, was the fourth and one, right, Where Bama has the ball. Fourth and one. They're on their side of the field and they're basically trying to get them to jump offside. And Signetti is disgusted that they thought that they would be undisciplined enough to even think about the idea of jumping off sides. Alabama calls a timeout, you assume they run the punt unit back out there instead, because it's a bit of a chess match or a peacock and whatever you want to call it, they say, okay, send the offense back out there. But then there's. They were scared of Indiana's D line enough so that they ran a trick play to Jeremy Bernard. Yeah, they were cute. Instead of just trying to get one yard, that was to me was like, that's the game.
Joel Anderson
That's.
Van Lathan
Y' all want to hear Van Lathan's overreaction of the pot?
Joel Anderson
Okay.
Van Lathan
That's the type of shit that would make me fire Kaylin deboer.
Joel Anderson
Ooh.
Tate
You know why that's weak?
Van Lathan
Because that is a game of chicken between the Two head coaches.
Tate
100%.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
And that is a game of chicken. Old school game of chicken between the two head coaches and fucking Kurt signetti. Embarrassed Kaylin DeBoer.
Tate
He said line him up.
Van Lathan
No, he said don't do none of that.
Joel Anderson
Nah, don't.
Van Lathan
No, no, no, no.
Joel Anderson
We're not.
Van Lathan
Line it up right here and go. We not jumping off sides. If you want the yard, you gonna have to go get it. We not scared of y'.
Joel Anderson
All.
Van Lathan
We not gonna jump off sides and give y' all the yard. If you want the yard, you gotta go get it. And rather than lining up heavy, getting jumbo and saying, okay, they tried to do the flame flicker flicky.
Tate
Try to be cute. Yeah, try to be cute.
Van Lathan
And got embarrassed. I'm like, nah, that's embarrassing.
Tate
That was the game.
Joel Anderson
That was really why they run that screen to Kaden Proctor again, you know, I mean, they're looking for some cute shit to do.
Tate
Proctor was getting work today.
Van Lathan
Yeah, man, he got over. So the whole thing is like, I'm looking at it. I'm all day long in college football. I saw people put it on the line and just get their hearts taken. And that's what indie Indiana, the Hoosiers, the Fighting Antoine Randalls, they did that to Alabama.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, man, I know.
Tate
I still can't even believe it. Like, as I was watching it live, you just felt like at some point Alabama would have an answer. But the more you watch, it's like, okay, well, Indiana's going to get five yards at worse on their first down play, running the ball. And then from there they're in plus territory, basically. And Mendoza was incredible. I mean, they played that soft defense off of those receivers on the outside in the boundary, and he just picked them apart every single time. He's like, oh, you're going to give me seven yards, I'll take that. And now you're going to have to make a tackle. And they got tired of tackling and the offense had no answer. And again, that's. That's what Bama used to do to people. That's why it was like a mirrored image.
Joel Anderson
We really only thought that Alabama had a chance in this game because they're Alabama. Right. I mean, I guess the thing is, I mean, they did qualify for the quarterfinals, but, like, they have not been able to establish the run. They have one of the worst pass rushes in college football. Like, they were 124th score wise, according to PFF. So there's a lot of things they don't do well. Right. And they were a very flawed team. And Yet a lot of people, you know, a substantial enough amount said, oh, man, Alabama, man, they still got the talent over, over Indiana. They're not going to, there's no, Indiana's not going to be able to beat them. And I mean, they, I mean, they beat their ass, man. You know, this happens to every. Again, every great dynasty ends with a loss like that. Like, you remember when was. It was like Miami, the first dynasty, when they lost like 29 to nothing to the Desert Storm Arizona team. This was like after the Erickson and Jump Jimmy Johnson years, they lost like 29 to nothing to Arizona. It was like, damn, man, I guess Miami really ain't good no more. Or when like Nebraska lost to Colorado, like 62 to 36 is like 20 years ago. And this running back named Chris Brown ran for like 250 yards.
Van Lathan
I remember that.
Joel Anderson
Brown, yeah, he was like a third round pick. Went to the 10 Titans and, you know, paint out the league. But he was the best he had ever been that day. And it was like, okay, Nebraska's done, like, they're just, they're not. Then they went, they made it to the national championship game and then Miami showed them again, oh, y' all don't belong at this level. And then USC when they lost to Stanford, when Jim Harbaugh was there, you know, like a 40.6, it was like, eventually the dynasty ends. And I feel like today's books on that.
Van Lathan
So let me tell you something. The Alabama dynasty was already over.
Joel Anderson
Right? Right.
Van Lathan
That's the thing. Alabama won their last national championship, I think was 2020, the year after LSU. Right. So the Alabama dynasty was already over. The, the power in the SEC had already shifted to Georgia and then really Texas, if we're looking at the, like just recently. Right. So it was already over. The dynasty being over is one thing. This is their reputation being over. And that's a different thing. Yeah. And the intimidation factor, the entire thing of who you are, right. The dynasty being over is. Look, it takes, if you, if anybody thinks that one team in college football is going to win a national championship every other year for 35 years, that's probably not going to happen. Right. However, what also comes after that is over is whether or not you still instill the same type of fear in people that you used to, because that, that's durable. That takes a while to go away. It takes a while to people for people to forget that you played them. LSU played Alabama one time. We didn't cross the 50. That's in a national championship game. Right. So Things like that. It takes a while for that stuff to get out of people's heads, but, you know, it gets it out of people's heads like this. And not just like this. Like this. With an Indiana team that is doing it in a classic college football way with fundamentals, mindset and toughness. Do or is. Is Indiana fast? Yep. Is Indiana strong? Yep. Is Indiana disciplined? Yep. But more than anything, Indiana is a nail. You can't bend them. You can't bend them like it. They. They are there and they believe. And I would be shocked right now if they didn't win the national championship based upon what I've seen. Be shocked. Even though I picked Georgia. I will, I will shout out one person, though. And this guy that I don't think gets shouted out enough because he's brilliant and I love this guy. David Dennis. David Dennis called this blowout. And y' all made fun of my man partly because he's light skinned. Y' all made fun of David Dennis because y' all said, listen, you beige, you don't know what's gonna happen in this game. And he was right. He said there's no reason to believe that Alabama will be able to do anything to Indiana. And he was right. They couldn't. They lost big. And the question is, if you are a Crimson Tie fan, now what now.
Tate
What'S a good question? There was also a lot of conversation stirring going into this game. And here's a fact for you guys, first fact here. College Football Playoff teams with the first round buy were 0 and 6 going into this game. And there was a conversation going into this game where it's like, maybe having the buy is bad and it's tough because you have to wait a month to play. Nick Saban's talking about it. Even Dan Lanning was talking about it. It kind of bit them in the butt last year against Ohio State. So for this Indiana team to have that conversation leading into this game, they kind of have this perfect excuse if they do no show first possession. By the way, Indiana gets the ball first, Mendoza gets sacked twice. And it did feel like, okay, this is going to be an Alabama game where they're going to dominate in the front and it's going to be like, oh, of course Alabama dominates. And then they end up winning the way that they did. Debunking the whole first round by conversation like that. That was the other part of this. It was like a double entendre of domination.
Joel Anderson
And I mean, also, that's just a really small sample. If you go through that list of games, like all of them make sense. Arizona, explainable. Arizona State lost to Texas.
Van Lathan
Yeah.
Joel Anderson
Boise State lost to Penn State. Yeah. Georgia lost to Notre Dame with Gunner Stockton, who at that time was not the start. You know, it had been. Yeah.
Tate
It was a bad turnover before the half. Yeah.
Joel Anderson
Oregon had to run it back with Ohio State. Just as they were reaching, reaching their peak, Texas Tech played Oregon. You know, Oregon was favored and has more talent. All those things, all those things are expected. So I just went down to get the 06 thing. I was like that. The buy thing doesn't have anything.
Van Lathan
Hell nah. Hell nah. Hell no. Let's go back to the Texas Tech, Oregon thing.
Joel Anderson
Oh, you want to talk about it?
Van Lathan
Yeah, let's talk about it. I, I think Texas Tech was affected by the layoff.
Joel Anderson
Really?
Van Lathan
Texas. Either Texas Tech is. Was affected by the layoff or Texas Tech is one of the worst offensive college football teams I've seen in a long time. That was excruciating.
Tate
Why can't Oregon be good at defense?
Van Lathan
Huh?
Joel Anderson
Why can't Oregon just be good at defense?
Van Lathan
Oh, yeah, no, they, they're okay. They're good. They're a good defensive team. But are they the 2,000 ravens? I mean, I didn't see Ray Lewis out there. They, they couldn't do nothing. And by the way, it wasn't just that. Stop trying to cap for the Big 12. It wasn't just that. This was terrible quarterback play, missing guys, weird throws. I thought he was pulling a John Tay Porter. I was about to check the props.
Joel Anderson
Let's talk about Baron Morton like that, man.
Van Lathan
I was looking at the props. I was, I was saying, like, what's going on?
Tate
I've been looking for.
Van Lathan
And bro, Oregon didn't look that good.
Joel Anderson
They did Oregon.
Van Lathan
The, the. You got to look at the final score of that game and say that Oregon went out there and dominated Texas Tech. Hell no.
Tate
It was a two possession game. One possession game the entire time.
Van Lathan
Yeah, Texas, they could not do anything on offense. I definitely think the layoff affected them. They got behind not just the actual sticks, but the mental sticks and they can never get back to right. Either that or they did little giants.
Joel Anderson
No, I just. The thing is, is that I thought their defense, they have a national championship defense. That is a defense that if you put, you know, Georgia on their helmets or whatever, you'll be like, oh, yeah, that is a, that's Oregon.
Tate
Hell, in this game, that is a.
Joel Anderson
Blue blood, blue chip, a championship level defense. Everybody that went into the game said, well, man, I just don't know how good Baron Morton is. I don't know how good that Texas, Texas Tech offense is. You know what it is about Texas Tech because they've done a great job. And I can't remember if the name's brother is James Blanchard or something like that. That's the GM that has assembled this team. Somebody will fact check me, I'm sure because I probably got it wrong. Yeah, it's like wazoo, bazoo, whatever. But they had a five star receiver a couple years ago that came in with. He was in the same class with Cam Cameron and Jeremiah Smith and his name was Micah Hudson. And this was a big coup. This is maybe one of the first five stars Texas Tech had ever had ever landed. And I think he had like eight receptions this year is a sophomore. It's just like, oh man, they missed on that. Like that's an evaluation a lot of people did because Michael Hudson was a five star. And I hate to put it on this kid, but I just felt like it would have been nice if Texas Tech had somebody that scared me all years. Yeah, they had good, good players. Another body that scared you that offense.
Van Lathan
Produced all year though.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, it's true they did. They never, they never played a defense.
Van Lathan
Like Oregon and they, they produced, they produced, they produced all year, all year.
Tate
And they had a really good backup and Will Hammond, right. Who's heard now for the year. So they didn't have a turn to him. Yeah, so that hurts too. He won some big games for them.
Van Lathan
He did win some big games for him. I thought that at times he looked a little bit better, more competent throughout the years a couple watch but, but they, they made plays all throughout the. And they came out there. I'm telling you. Obviously it's funny to watch the third best team I was with Joel to watch the third best team in the Big Ten over the Big Ten Chan the Big 12 champion. That's actually whatever when you get to these games in the playoffs it is what it is. But I do think that for Texas Tech I do think that the layoff hurt them. I do, I think it maybe not, maybe this game doesn't go in a different way, but I think they'd have looked different on offense had they not have like all the time off. And you know you're coming from. You're dealing with a Oregon team that had played a game play the game against James Madison much better on offense than Texas Tech did. James Madison was able to actually make plays and put a little bit of a Scare into Oregon. What? They weren't.
Joel Anderson
Oregon took the. I mean, they knew that they had some boys, and they took the. They took the. Yeah. And they took that foot off gas. They had. They. I mean, they never lit up off Tech.
Van Lathan
They. They never let up off Tech. But at the same time, watching the ineptitude that I saw from Tech, it was startling. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Tate
Lanning wasn't great in this game either, especially in the first half. Like, there were some boneheaded decisions, especially, like, in the red zone, not taking points when they probably should have taken points. And they kind of kept the game within reach. And for whatever reason, Texas Tech just could not figure out a way to score any points in this game. So they get shut out. I mean, how shocking is that, Joel, for the best team in the Big 12 to get shut out in this game?
Joel Anderson
I mean, it is. I mean, obviously, there's just been this shift in football. I was going to talk about it later, but obviously, like, defenses. The defenses are really, really good in college football this year, like, at this level. And, you know, I don't think I would have predicted that they would get shut out, but if you had told me they were going to lose 28 to 10 before today, I probably would have been like, yeah, I could see that happening, because I don't think Baron Morton is any good. I shouldn't say that. Sorry. Young man. I just think that this was not your day, and you didn't play. You played against a much better defense. You'd never played against a defense that good this season. And I think.
Tate
But I wouldn't say that Oregon's the best defense in the cfp, right? I mean, so that's the other part.
Joel Anderson
I don't think it is.
Van Lathan
You guys. You guys. Are you guys looking at this?
Joel Anderson
What? Oh, Trinidad. Oh. Oh, I'm looking at it right now.
Van Lathan
This. This game is. This game is wacky, bro got drunk 24.
Joel Anderson
He converted that, right?
Tate
Yeah.
Van Lathan
This. This game is wacky. Trinidad Chambers is running around being wacky as. This is wacky. It's wacky football happening right now.
Joel Anderson
I hadn't seen that, man.
Tate
They really wonky.
Joel Anderson
They got. They got that. They really are showing that confederate tonight, man. I feel like they just. The colors and everything, it just is very.
Van Lathan
What are you talking about?
Joel Anderson
It's just very. They got their conf. Federation.
Tate
I think it's Cam. I think it's camouflage. Right?
Joel Anderson
Cool. Yeah, man. Looks nice. Yeah.
Van Lathan
I mean, if you.
Joel Anderson
If you. If you into it, man, that's great.
Tate
I'm not into it.
Joel Anderson
Okay.
Van Lathan
All right.
Tate
I'm out on it. I don't even like. I don't like the powder blue appropriation.
Van Lathan
If you. If you all miss. Why don't you just lean into it?
Joel Anderson
Right?
Tate
Yeah.
Van Lathan
Somebody's. When you. When you have somebody sign in nil, they should just do it up on an auction block. And they should just. And they should just. They should just do. Go into the pageantry. You already. The Confederacy. But just go into the pageantry. Go into the pageantry. Line all the players up, do the nil. Bid. Do the whole thing. Like. Like learn.
Tate
They give out the Jefferson Davis MVP awards.
Van Lathan
The Robert Elite.
Joel Anderson
Don't you think there's a place for an explicitly racist college football program?
Van Lathan
Yeah.
Joel Anderson
Right now, but they could actually have a good. A good fan base, an activated fan base place.
Van Lathan
All of them really kind of are. Which is the funny part of it. It's.
Joel Anderson
All of.
Van Lathan
All of them are. If you guys ever been to these towns where we kind of can't talk about it because the players are there.
Joel Anderson
Downtown market. What?
Van Lathan
It used to be funny. It used to be funny to be on campus and tell. And tell the LSU players like, what the LSU Tiger really means.
Tate
Oh, my God.
Van Lathan
Like what it is. What happened?
Tate
Sorry. Chambers just complete like a 40 yard pass.
Van Lathan
Chad was going crazy. Yeah, but you would tell them that and they would be like, for real. And then the moment that it would go in their head, it would go out there. They would be like, for real. Well, if it's about being a Tiger, then I'm a Tiger.
Tate
Wouldn't happen to me, though.
Van Lathan
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Tate
Man, the backdoor payments were hitting well in those times.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Tate
Chambliss is driving right now, 26 to 37.
Joel Anderson
291. A touchdown. That's was okay. Hey, Van, how do you. Again? We. I think we ran over this the other day. How do you feel if Ole Miss wins this game? It.
Van Lathan
Well, I feel two ways. Number one, it's annoying if they win. That's the first thing. Number two, because it just continues the story. Plus, we need to see which ones of these guys are coming to Baton Rouge. You know, we need to get the season over. Number two, though. Georgia was my n. Georgia was my national championship.
Tate
Me too.
Van Lathan
Choice.
Joel Anderson
So listen it all for us today then?
Van Lathan
What'd you say?
Joel Anderson
Let's end it all for us. Because, I mean, me and Billy's teams already are out our national championship.
Tate
Joel. I have a perfect bracket.
Joel Anderson
Oh, you do?
Van Lathan
Wait, wait, wait.
Joel Anderson
If Georgia wins, though.
Tate
If Georgia wins. But I'm just saying, so far, I got a perfect. I don't think I'm trying to blow up everybody, man.
Joel Anderson
I would say. I mean. Okay, man, well, you know, you're the gambling guy, man. You know, we should. We should promote that more. Fanduel. Fanduel. Fanduel.
Tate
Hey, Sal. Put 100 bucks plus 700 Miami to make the semi finals, so.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, okay. It was smart. Smart. Sounds smart, man, you know, his too.
Tate
Well, that was for me. That's why I did it. I get 700.
Joel Anderson
Nice.
Van Lathan
Oh, you get the 700, man, y' all make.
Joel Anderson
Y' all do make gambling sound appealing. When it comes down to raw cash like that, I'm just like, man, 700.
Tate
We gotta. We gotta make. No matter. You know?
Joel Anderson
Yeah, man. I mean, gambling is. Oh, man. Fanduel. You know what it is, Joel?
Tate
Eject. Don't do it.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
Okay.
Joel Anderson
I'm letting it go.
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Van Lathan
I want the chat. Yeah. I want the chat to get on.
Joel Anderson
I don't know if I should join y' all in this because y' all about to pull some bullshit, but go ahead.
Van Lathan
No, we.
Tate
We just said this is a conversation point. So Joel on Twitter today had Reddit, CFB shout out to Red fc Reddit cfb. Big fans of what they got going on over there.
Van Lathan
Wait, who.
Joel Anderson
Who's big fans of who we all.
Tate
Are on the show, especially you.
Joel Anderson
Are I with him? I mean. Okay, that's what I'm saying. But everybody.
Tate
They, quote, tweeted Joel. When Joel said something about Alabama fans and Kaylin DeBoer. DeBoer should have gone to Ann Arbor. Right? That's the. That's the whole general conversation, right? Joel, they, quote, tweeted you, and then you were upset about this, and you responded accordingly. Because. Because why, I guess, is the setup.
Joel Anderson
Okay. Upset is probably pushing it.
Van Lathan
Touchdown. Ole Miss, by the way.
Joel Anderson
Oh, shit.
Tate
And they're going to go on Lacy. They're going to go for two right.
Joel Anderson
From Lancaster, Texas, man. Man, how did he get away from UT and Texas A? Yeah, well, I guess the same thing could be said of Aston Genti, you know? Yeah. Oh. So do you want me to tell the story for real?
Tate
Yeah, yeah. They're going for two. Yeah.
Van Lathan
Well, hold on.
Joel Anderson
Let's wait till they get to here. I want to. I know that I'm gonna lose my train.
Tate
25, 24, 11 minutes.
Joel Anderson
Somebody keep a bookmark so I know to come back to this.
Tate
Oh, got it.
Joel Anderson
Oh, damn, man. I'm behind y', all, man.
Van Lathan
They're gonna around and win this game. They gonna. Wow.
Tate
And then after we do this, we're going to talk about Lane Kiffin if Ole Miss wins this game. But, Joel, back to the original conceit. Why are you upset about this whole thing?
Joel Anderson
So, I mean, I'm not upset that. That overstates. I just sent off a tweet. You know, it didn't take nothing for me to send off a tweet. That doesn't mean I'm upset. I was just ending the conversation. But I thought they were being disingenuous by saying, oh, yes, the famously rational and not histrionic Michigan fan base. Do you know when Michigan fans would like. I don't know, man. Jim Harbaugh, we would expect you to do a little bit better here. It was like year six, like year five or year six of them. They had a. They had a bad Covid year.
Tate
He couldn't beat Ohio State.
Joel Anderson
Couldn't beat Ohio State for a while. And they were like, oh, man, maybe we should get rid of Jim Harbaugh. But it wasn't it really a fever pitch and it was like a low level hum. But they did make him take a pay cut to come back. He wins and goes away, bro. That's not what we know to be true about the Alabama fan base. That they would not. They're not gonna wait five years of you losing to your top rival and not winning and not contending for a national championship. They wouldn't tolerate that at Alabama, and which is why they would go through their coaches. So I don't know why Reddit CFB is pretending like they don't know the difference between Alabama and Michigan. And if they don't, then I guess they don't follow football. That's closely. But the other thing about it is.
Tate
But you said you weren't upset about what they said. Really? You were upset? Quote.
Joel Anderson
But the other thing is just like, man, don't. That's some whole ass bro quote, tweeting somebody. You. I don't. You don't follow me. You don't follow me. I don't with you. You know what I'm saying? It's not like I'll be going to Reddit cfb. Like, we're not enemies, you know? So, like, why are you like. I just. I would. I don't. I only quote, quote, tweet people in that way.
Van Lathan
People.
Joel Anderson
I don't like a people that I know that I'm not gonna like. I'm not doing it just for random people who we may be on the same side of an issue, whatever. But I guess that's the whole. That our Reddit CFB is down with. And I guess that's the whole. That y' all support. I was like, bro, I don't even talk to you, man.
Van Lathan
Why are you talking.
Joel Anderson
Why are you talking to me?
Van Lathan
You don't follow me.
Joel Anderson
Why. Why the you over here, dog?
Tate
But don't you think they're trying to amplify your voice, you know?
Joel Anderson
No.
Tate
Can you take it that way?
Joel Anderson
Lol.
Van Lathan
Why are you so pissed?
Tate
He's really upset. He's not mad. He told us he's not mad.
Joel Anderson
My bad.
Van Lathan
Hold on for a second.
Joel Anderson
Hold on, man. You know.
Van Lathan
You know when. You know, you get really bad, Homie's really mad. Hey, hey.
Tate
He turned on us.
Van Lathan
That ass. Whatever. But see, with that.
Tate
So that's Yalls, man.
Joel Anderson
Yes, y. I mean, y. Y' all want to support.
Van Lathan
See, man, that's how people do me about DJ academics. I've been doing that for a long time. I do something crazy, I get a random text. See, See, man, You see.
Tate
You'Re implicated.
Joel Anderson
I mean, y' all said y' all were fans of that. I don't know. Reddit cfb, maybe. They're good people. Maybe. Whatever. But there just was no need for you to talk to me, bro. So I'm sorry, like, if you go talk to me, follow me, then you know what I mean?
Tate
So if they follow, that's part of it, perfectly fine.
Joel Anderson
No, but I mean, establish a relationship with me. I don't.
Van Lathan
I don't just.
Joel Anderson
I'm not. Unless you want to be my enemy, which. Fine, whatever. Okay. We can tweet at each other and we can do that. That's fine. If that's.
Tate
I'm trying to understand the rules of engagement.
Joel Anderson
So if they quote Tweeted you only quote tweet strangers. I only quote tweet strangers. If like I'm like, oh, that's a funny story or they share something interesting or whatever. You know, something tangentially related to the world that I'm in. The range of things that I'm interested in. I'm not gonna get some 700 follow stranger. And they said something stupid quote tweeted and be like, haha, look at you. You said something dumb like, I'm not gonna do that.
Van Lathan
So the quotes to quote punch up.
Joel Anderson
So the quote tweets to you don't punch down.
Van Lathan
The quote tweet to you.
Tate
Is this Freest has got the tweets up.
Van Lathan
Here's the Got the tweets up right here.
Joel Anderson
Oh, man. I really fre. Really be on it, man.
Van Lathan
Yeah, he's on top of his so bring up.
Joel Anderson
I cannot believe y' all are inspecting my tweets. That's close. This is the kind of. That make me.
Van Lathan
Wait a second. That was funny.
Joel Anderson
Hold on.
Van Lathan
I'm looking at the. I'm watching you go back and forth with the Reddit CFB thing and the chat wanted it. And then under that I see that's some real.
Tate
At least you said the whole on Twitter.
Joel Anderson
Because I believe with his whole what.
Van Lathan
The Is like what is Joel so upset about? And then I look at it. It's not that even big a deal. The that y' all was going back and forth about. It's nice. But. But you. To you, the quote tweet itself is a dis. The act of.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. I mean, you're just coming to laugh at me, to throw me to your Reddit followers to be like, look at this, man. He think he know about football. I Man, you dog. Don't talk to me. Just don't talk. Don't talk. Don't follow me. We don't have to do that. That Wait, and I'm torn on if if he did a screenshot, if that would be more of a whole move or not in some ways, I guess I kind of respect it because, you know, you did do it to my face. You didn't do a screenshot would be even more ho. But I mean, come on, man.
Tate
That would be the most ho. Ship him to screenshot it, not follow you, and then tweet it without you knowing.
Van Lathan
Yeah, that's actually more.
Tate
That would be foul.
Joel Anderson
That's more. That would be the lowest in over the whole. Yes.
Van Lathan
Duke, Duke, what's your thoughts here?
Tate
Well, what. What if you get the.
Joel Anderson
Why does his opinion matter on this?
Tate
He understands we're a team. I'm just asking.
Joel Anderson
No, we're not.
Tate
We're not a team.
Van Lathan
What do you mean?
Joel Anderson
Not the way I mean, y' all said y'. All. That's y', all boy. Who ready? Cfb.
Tate
If you got the follow tonight, how would you feel, right? Like, after this, he follows.
Joel Anderson
If he followed. I mean. Nah, man. Get. Now you trolling me, bro.
Tate
What?
Joel Anderson
Now you trolling. If you follow me, be like, oh, yeah, my bad, man. I didn't mean nothing about that. I actually had a twin interaction with somebody earlier this year, and it was like, we kind of had a misunderstanding, and we talked offline, and we worked through it. It was cool. You know what I'm saying? It's like, okay, I just kind of didn't know where you were coming from. You didn't know where I was coming from, but we might like each other. Van knows who I'm talking about. Do you remember this? No. No. We're not gonna talk about it in public, but Van knows what I'm talking.
Van Lathan
About because a whole bunch of people.
Joel Anderson
Were like, joel, what's going on, bro?
Van Lathan
This is intro. This is intra ringer.
Joel Anderson
Why are you giving up the. What are you doing?
Tate
You're fighting with people at work.
Joel Anderson
What are you doing?
Tate
I actually. I actually remember this, too.
Van Lathan
I'm sorry.
Tate
Wait, who was it?
Van Lathan
No, we can't talk about it. Joel is go. You guys, Joel's gonna maybe have an aneurysm on this show.
Joel Anderson
It was a whole thing, and I didn't know the brother. Oh, man. Well, here it is. Is Raheem okay? Fine. And me and Raheem, we just had a misunderstanding on Twitter and people.
Van Lathan
And people.
Joel Anderson
And everybody was like, oh, Joel. What? You know, people were doing that, and one of our mutual friends shout out Jason England linked us up. He's like, man, y' all got more in common than y' all think. Y' all should get the talk offline. And, like, he apologized, and I apologized for my role in it, and it was like, okay, cool. And now, like, I. I with Raheem, like, you know, yeah, he might be.
Tate
Watching this for all we know.
Joel Anderson
We got. Yeah, that's the right.
Van Lathan
Raheem will put you on blast on Twitter, though.
Tate
Oh, yeah.
Van Lathan
But see, this is. But see, here's the thing, though. This is what I'm saying. A quote tweet, in and of itself is not necessarily necessarily a diss. It's not. I do get the follow thing, though. I do get the Follow thing. A quote tweet. A quote tweet itself is not necessarily a dis. But the follow thing kind of makes sense because it's like, now we don't even know each other. Like that, and you almost trying to get your followers on me.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
Yeah.
Joel Anderson
Well, thank you, Van. I appreciate it.
Van Lathan
I do. I do, kind of. I do. See, I think that.
Tate
Joe, we're all on your side.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. Are you really?
Tate
All of us.
Joel Anderson
Reddit, cfb, y', all, Boy.
Tate
Not our. Not our boy. But we're trying to look unfollow him. They have an audience.
Van Lathan
What?
Joel Anderson
Unfollow. Don't follow them.
Tate
Right now we gotta post this clip, tagging them. Right? Like, obviously, like, we need to escalate this.
Joel Anderson
I don't know if we gotta do that, man.
Van Lathan
We have to, because at this.
Tate
If not, you're talking. Yeah, that's. Oh, now you're you. Now you're screenshotting.
Van Lathan
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Joel Anderson
Wait, what's. Ho.
Van Lathan
Post this clip, then you. That's whole on your part.
Joel Anderson
Oh, no question. I don't care.
Van Lathan
Go for it.
Joel Anderson
Go for it. That's fine.
Tate
Go for it.
Joel Anderson
That's fine. I don't want. I would.
Van Lathan
You know what?
Joel Anderson
It should end tonight. There's a big game going on.
Van Lathan
You challenged Lane Kiffin to a fight. Yeah, and then when we was about to post.
Joel Anderson
I didn't challenge him to a fight.
Tate
Yo, we have Joel. You said it on the air.
Joel Anderson
I said that if he had a problem with. I said what I said, defining his behavior as ho. I did not call him a hoe.
Tate
You said, bring it to 227.
Joel Anderson
No, I said, meet me at the Whole Foods in downtown Silver Spring.
Tate
So you said.
Van Lathan
Don'T.
Joel Anderson
Don't nobody approach me there. Don't nobody come to me. I have my son with me.
Tate
Georgia just got sacked on a fourth and two.
Joel Anderson
I saw that, bro.
Tate
Big play.
Joel Anderson
Is that Santera Perkins? Yeah.
Tate
Big play. And a fumble.
Van Lathan
That's a sack fumble right there.
Tate
Yeah. Let's see. I think it is a fumble, right?
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Tate
That's a fumble. That's a fumble.
Joel Anderson
Bam.
Van Lathan
Golden coaching where as this. Oh, and they're driving now. Red zone happening.
Joel Anderson
Okay. Oh.
Van Lathan
Oh, wow.
Joel Anderson
They're at the 25.
Van Lathan
Gotta keep them out of the red. Out of the end zone right here, man. You know that play right there, that sort of. That kind of concept right at the edge of the defense, Right. It's not a slant. It's almost like a flat route. Right? Out there, it's just killing Georgia.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
That flat route right there is just getting on. They getting out leverage every time, man. Every time they run that.
Tate
And it's funny because, like, before the game, Kirby was like, no free access, plays six.
Joel Anderson
Oh, is it really six?
Van Lathan
Trinidad Chambers is having the game of.
Joel Anderson
His life that wasn't playing in Division two football last year, man.
Tate
He won a national championship.
Joel Anderson
He won a national championship. Division two. And now. Yeah, man. That's incredible, man.
Tate
And he also played great against Georgia, at Georgia. You know, during the season, they were up in that game as well, and Georgia was able to climb back and get a win. But this is a lot of Ole Miss fans, by the way, at the Sugar Bowl. Have you guys ever been in the Sugar Bowl?
Joel Anderson
Oh, my God, I have. Of course.
Tate
I have, too. I think we've all been to the Sugar Bowl.
Joel Anderson
Do you know what I mean? I told. I think I told Vanish. I was there for the 2003 Sugar bowl where they beat. Because I used to cover Oklahoma in the 2003 year. So I was there for that national championship game at the Sugar Bowl. That's one of the most fun weeks I've ever had in my life. It was so great.
Tate
It was a Gables experience.
Van Lathan
Yeah, the LSU fans were so happy to be there at that point. We hadn't really sniffed the national championship in a long, long time. So everything, everybody. We knew how great the team was, but everybody was just full of life.
Joel Anderson
Chad Lavalay. Justin.
Van Lathan
Yep. Chad Lav. Justin Vincent. Skyler Green. Matt.
Joel Anderson
Matt Mock. Yeah.
Van Lathan
Marcus Spears. Michael Clayton.
Joel Anderson
Marquis Hill.
Van Lathan
Marquis Hill. Rest in peace.
Joel Anderson
Rest in peace. Marquis Hill.
Van Lathan
Like, rest in peace. Marquis Hill. Great team. Corey Webster.
Joel Anderson
Oh, that's right. Corey Webster was on that team.
Van Lathan
Corey Webster converted wide receiver, Nick Saban takes him over to the defensive side of the ball, and he becomes an All American. Goes on to have a pretty good NFL career. So, like, a lot of Tigers there, like, unforgettable team, Unforgettable Tigers team.
Joel Anderson
Would you rather go to if we had to pick? We're not gonna get to go. But the. The Sugar bowl, the Rose bowl, the Fiesta bowl, or the Orange bowl, if you had to pick?
Van Lathan
No, I've never been to the Fiesta Bowl.
Tate
Yeah, I've been all. But the Fiesta bowl, really? Should we all go to the Fiesta Bowl?
Van Lathan
We should all go to the Fiesta Ball. I've never been to the Fiesta. I've been to the Orange bowl before. I've been to the Sugar bowl before. I've been to the Rose Bowl.
Tate
Before.
Van Lathan
Before. I've never been to the Fiesta bowl out here. You can go to you. You. Some years ago. I'm saying it. Let's go to the Rose Bowl. It just go to the Rose Bowl. Go and hang out there. But like, you. Sugar bowl was on. I've never been to the Fiesta Bowl. That's Arizona, right, Tempe?
Joel Anderson
Yes, Arizona, man. I've never. I've only been in the Phoenix airport. Arizona is like one of those weird states I've never been to before.
Tate
I've been to final fours there, 2017, a couple years ago. But yeah, it'd be great. Let's go to the Fiesta Bowl.
Joel Anderson
Let's line up.
Tate
But right now, 34, 24, nine minutes to play. Sugar bowl happening right now in real time. Apparently, Billy Gill said lane Kiffin makes 500K. This is true. This is not a rumor. He is going to make 500k if ole miss wins this game tonight. He also vane, I want to get your thoughts on this. He apparently. This. I don't know if this is true, but through the grapevine, he apparently was trying to get on the broadcast for this game and I guess talk about Ole Miss and, you know, try to, I guess, assuage some of the friction between himself and the old Miss fans. And then there was a lot of pushback from Ole Miss with espn. They didn't want him on the broadcast. Your thoughts? Just like right now, as he's the LSU coach, he ended up going to the women's basketball game with Kim Mulkey instead. But would you want him on the broadcast? Do you want him to kind of have his. Do you want it to be over with with Ole Miss? I guess is the question.
Van Lathan
So here's the thing, and I. I'm really confused about this. Not confused, but I'm not quite sure the way Lane is. You kind of gotta let Lane be Lane. When you're in the Lane business, all of this stuff is a part of it. Do I personally want Lane Kiffin to be around like this and doing that type of stuff? No. I think that there are so many things that he has to fix right now in Baton Rouge that he needs to be thinking about those things. Transfers everywhere. We got some good news as far as Wit Weeks and Harlem Berry, some other guys to Sean Spears. But we're also losing a lot of guys. Make sure you go out and restock the offensive line in the transfer portal and all of that stuff. But then at the same time, this is a part of it. Like, you know what I Mean, it's like if you take a stripper out the club, you take it, then you. You take out to your. To your family. You can't really be mad if she shake a little ass. Like, if you. If you. If you take out the strip club and then y' all go to the family reunion and she shake a little ass.
Tate
Leopard doesn't change his stripes.
Van Lathan
She shouldn't. She shouldn't.
Joel Anderson
No, she should, but.
Tate
But she's a tiger.
Van Lathan
She did not know. You expect.
Joel Anderson
Just because she's a dancer, you expect. If you had. If you dated a massage therapist, would you expect her to show up? If she showed up at your house and had a massage table, I was like, well, I'm just gonna go. I'm just gonna rub a couple.
Van Lathan
Yeah. You know what's funny?
Joel Anderson
Stop.
Van Lathan
The episode. The episode of the Sopranos when Steve Buscemi's character, the animal Tony Blundetto, gets out. He got his massage license inside of jail. As soon as the rest of the crew comes around, what does he start doing? Giving the whole guy's massages. Giving them massages.
Joel Anderson
You.
Van Lathan
What I'm saying is you wouldn't expect him to give a massage, but if he starts giving a massage, you can't be mad about it. If you give massage, you can't be mad about it. So what I'm saying is, in this situation, if you gonna be with a free spirit like that, you kind of gotta let them free spirit their thing. It's not my type of deal, but I can't get too mad at it.
Tate
One other thing, Van, that I've heard through the grapevine is that he's not wearing LSU gear until Ole Miss is kind of done, like, this season. So it was sort of his way to show some. I. This is. Again, this is all agents. You know, agents feed you bullshit, and you. You know, you regurgitate it if you want to, but this is what I've heard through the grapevine that he's like, this is a solidarity play from Lane, that he has not worn any LSU gear. Do you buy that? Or you just think Lane is trying to get his fits off? Because I. I don't really buy that whole idea, but I do find it funny.
Van Lathan
I'm gonna be real with you. I saw Kyle Whittingham. Attending the. The Citrus bowl, and he had a Michigan shirt on.
Tate
Had a headset on at one point.
Van Lathan
And I got. I got pissed off. I was a little.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, see, I'm not gonna.
Van Lathan
You. At first, I didn't care about it. But I saw him. I saw him. He said, I got a little pissed off. I got a little pissed off that Kyle Winningham was up there full on maze and blue, and our guy was just like Cyclops in the first X Men movie.
Tate
It left the game early, you know what I'm saying?
Van Lathan
So, like, and Kyle Whittingham just got there.
Joel Anderson
He, like, he just got there, man.
Tate
Yeah, it is very strange. I. I don't know how to read it. And he went to the LSU game tonight, the women's game, and he didn't wear any LSU gear there either. So I'm starting to believe what I. What I've been told.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, I missed it. Oh, Branch, Branch. Usc. Usc. Could have used him the other night, man. Damn.
Tate
Zachariah Branch has had a good game.
Van Lathan
This game is crazy. If the Georgia defense can step up, it'll be legacy drive Gunner Stockton time. I say that we ride this game out with the tailgaters.
Tate
Yeah, let's ride it out.
Van Lathan
Tailgaters, y'. All.
Tate
Why are you upset? Or is that Billy again?
Joel Anderson
It's 11. It's 11:12 out here, man.
Tate
Joe, hey, you know, seven minutes. What do you have to do? What are you doing? You want this show to succeed or not?
Joel Anderson
My children. My children are asleep in the room next to this room. And so my wife is sleeping in there with them, keeping them just so they don't wake up or run in here, you know, And I haven't eaten today. I only had two wings. But I'll wait with y', all, man. Okay.
Van Lathan
Oh, no. You know what, Joe?
Tate
We don't want to put you microphone and eat your chicken wings, and then we'll. And then chime in, the three of us.
Van Lathan
The three of us.
Tate
Yeah, chime in as you want. Like, the chat will love that. They would love to see Joel. Like, they'd be like, joel's definitely high tonight. There's no.
Joel Anderson
I don't like. No, dude.
Van Lathan
I'm like, eat your chicken wings.
Joel Anderson
Don't say it like that. Don't say, eat my chicken, man.
Van Lathan
Tell you to eat the chicken.
Tate
Oh, no, no.
Van Lathan
We back to the. To the Oxford auction block, son. The essence.
Joel Anderson
I used it. I. I went. You know, I did it. But I. Let's. Let's do it. Let's stay. Okay. Boy, I tell you, if y' all got anything else. Thank you, Joe.
Van Lathan
I appreciate that. You know what? Hold on for a second.
Joel Anderson
We have 609 people looking at this. Can you believe it? This late at night? What are y' all doing?
Van Lathan
We like, we going crazy. We. And we. It's gonna be. We gonna be bidded. Hey, I want to say something else to everybody that's supporting tailgate right now. Now, tailgate is on his way up. You guys are the original tailgaters. I'mma find something. I'mma find something to do for the original tailgaters, man. Yeah, Tailgates on the way up. Y' all the original tailgaters. But right now, since Joel acting crazy, let me go to college football Reddit page.
Joel Anderson
Oh, bro, come on.
Tate
Make a. Make a post about Joel on there or where.
Joel Anderson
Oh, man, who is Joel? See, why y' all hyping it up?
Tate
Yeah, how do we do that?
Joel Anderson
Why are y' all hyping it up? Why. Don't do that.
Van Lathan
Let me. Let me ask y' all a question. Oh, I want to introduce this into this.
Joel Anderson
Y' all really don't support me. Go ahead.
Van Lathan
Shout out to. Shout out to Franco, aka @ Don Cheech. Who put this.
Joel Anderson
In?
Van Lathan
Who. Who tweeted me in this? It said, dan Wolkin says it's time that we question whether or not the Big 12 is a power conference. Conference. It says it's time to consider whether the Big 12 is perpetrating a fraud on college football. Is this collection of schools still.
Tate
Worthy? Joel's gonna start eating here in a.
Van Lathan
Second. Of being called a power conference. Joe, I'm asking. I didn't say.
Tate
This. Joe, if you're hungry, I would eat.
Van Lathan
Now. I didn't. I didn't say this. This was. This was Franco cheat. Don at Don Cheech, who tweeted us all in this. Joe, What. What. What do you think about what? That point from Dan.
Tate
Wilkins. One CFP win as a.
Joel Anderson
Conference. I think what's going to happen is that they're not going to be a power. Most of those schools are not going to make it to the next iteration of college football. I told you that. I think that they're effectively a group of five conference and that nobody. It doesn't make a difference. People will share all the facts about how SEC has done poorly in the playoffs the last couple of years, about how the ACC is whack, you know, about how the Big Ten is.
Tate
Overrated. Semifinal team. Calm.
Joel Anderson
Down. Okay. All.
Tate
Right. Dominating the.
Joel Anderson
Draft. Yeah. Duke, 8 and 5 conference.
Tate
Champ. Who did Duke be a Big 12 team? Arizona.
Joel Anderson
State. I mean, they didn't have that quarterback. They missed a Sam Levitt, man. Arizona.
Van Lathan
State. You should. Hey, no, hold on for a.
Joel Anderson
Second. You support.
Tate
Duke. I have to do conference pride now. This is what SEC propaganda has made me. You know, I have to fight the.
Van Lathan
Good. Because when you brought up the cool, you brought up the Cougs, and you talked about the fact that they beat lsu. We didn't have nobody, so many people weren't around for the game, and you said no. And you know what I said? You know what? They won the.
Joel Anderson
Game.
Van Lathan
Cool. Same. Duke won the.
Joel Anderson
Game. Give it up for Duke. Okay.
Van Lathan
Great. Give it up. They did, okay? They did. And. And Miami is putting belt to ass, okay? Gatorade coolers with it right now. So you got to give it up for the.
Joel Anderson
Acc. No, I don't have to give it up for the acc.
Tate
What? Joe, you were. You're a.
Joel Anderson
Champ. Do you think the ACC gives up for the acc, man? I mean, Georgia Tech, now, we had a great season. Okay? I mean, man, you. I mean, are you. Do you. Are you gonna get looked down on when you go to Chapel Hill riding for Duke like this?
Tate
Tate, I watch the games. I support the.
Joel Anderson
Conference. I have a homeboy from Bossier City, Louisiana. My boy Gene, man. And I need. I owe him a call. And he used to. He hated lsu, bro. He hated LSU so much. No, don't talk about Gene like that. Gene just turned 60, man. That's my.
Van Lathan
Dog. Oh, he's 60 years.
Tate
Old. Shout out to Gene. Why'd you call him? For the.
Van Lathan
Razor. For.
Joel Anderson
Him. That's my guy, man. Jean Stroen. You know who I'm talking.
Van Lathan
About? Jean Stroen up there. He probably got gout. Go ahead. You probably.
Joel Anderson
What? Come on.
Tate
Man. Why. Why haven't you.
Joel Anderson
Play. My boy's health, man. So I just. Man, I. Do you have. You have two children. Two small children. You.
Van Lathan
Understand?
Joel Anderson
I. You know. But the point, man.
Van Lathan
See? What's the point.
Joel Anderson
Joe? I.
Van Lathan
Forgot. What's the point, bro? I forgot.
Joel Anderson
Itine. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. No, what Gene said was that. Gene said I would if. If Cl. If LSU played the clan. I root for the.
Tate
Clan.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Tate
Yeah. That used to be it. That's what I'm.
Joel Anderson
Saying.
Tate
Yeah. If Duke played, you know, Taliban. You pull versus the. You know, the.
Van Lathan
Whole. Yeah, yeah.
Joel Anderson
Gene. Yeah, man. But he don't like. Y' all like that dog. You.
Van Lathan
Know? I get it. Who does Gene root for, though? Shout out to Gene. Who.
Joel Anderson
Does. Gene Roof, man. Gene, kind.
Van Lathan
Of. Just because he's in. He's in. The architects up.
Joel Anderson
There.
Van Lathan
Yeah.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. So Gene went to school, I think Southern Arkansas. He played football there. He was a linebacker there. I saw again, who does Gene root for man. Gene don't kind of root for nobody.
Tate
Man. He just hates.
Joel Anderson
Lsu. Yeah, he hates lsu. He like, you know, he likes in Louisiana Tech because he's, you know, and okay. And Grambling and I'm.
Van Lathan
School. I went there for a little while. Yeah, I.
Joel Anderson
Remember. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. You know about rusting. So. Yeah. Shout.
Tate
Out. Who's the number one Louisiana Tech.
Van Lathan
Alum? Car.
Tate
Malone.
Joel Anderson
Yeah.
Van Lathan
Yeah. Oh.
Tate
Not. Got.
Van Lathan
Him. Not. He's number one on the court. Off the field is not. Is less than ideal, but on the court, no, on the court, he's. He's probably number.
Joel Anderson
One. No. You know what you could do to get rid Terry Bradshaw? Terry.
Van Lathan
Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw is. Is there as well. Terry.
Tate
Bradshaw. I think Terry still got like a. A hog farm up.
Joel Anderson
There. Like, man, Louisiana Tech. Who was that kid? And people are going to remember in the. In the. In the comments, it was a receiver they had. His name was Troy something and.
Van Lathan
He had like Troy.
Joel Anderson
Edwards. Troy Edwards had like 20 receptions against Nebraska when.
Van Lathan
Nebraska. Nebraska, like, like 200 some yards. Troy Edwards and Timurite together. Timber Tay was the.
Joel Anderson
Quarterback. Timber Tay. That. Timber Tay was cold.
Tate
Didn't. I mean, they had another good quarterback. Georgia with the.
Joel Anderson
Ball. By the way, I want to stay longer. We up here talking about Louisiana State.
Tate
Football. Nate Frazier went down the.
Joel Anderson
Injury. Oh.
Van Lathan
Man. Georgia. Georgia has the ball right now. Yeah, I feel like Georgia. Georgia can't. Can't punt this away. They need to come up with some kind of points on this drive. Either. Either the field goal to tie or to go ahead.
Joel Anderson
Touchdown. Wait, is that.
Tate
Nate? Yes, Nate. That's my.
Joel Anderson
Guy. Oh, man. This looks bad, though, the way look. The way they.
Tate
Acting. I.
Joel Anderson
Know. Well, I don't know. They just kind of gave each other.
Tate
Doubt. He finally got healthy.
Joel Anderson
Too. Yeah. Let's see what.
Tate
Happened. Oh, it's his right leg. It.
Joel Anderson
Looks. Yeah. Oh.
Van Lathan
Man. Rolled over right.
Joel Anderson
There. I mean, football is crazy.
Van Lathan
Man. These young men are.
Joel Anderson
Playing. Yeah, man. Football's crazy, man. I just. And every time now I look at it and I was like, oh, man, this guy got his leg trapped up under him or when people fall. I just. Oh, I can't believe people do that.
Tate
Man. Joel, you've been at the bottom of a pile.
Joel Anderson
Before. I couldn't.
Tate
Even. I couldn't.
Van Lathan
Even. Hey, Duke, where was.
Tate
Joel? At the bottom of a pilot 227.
Joel Anderson
Stop. First of all, stop talking about that. And I was not at the.
Tate
Bottom. Oh, I was genuinely asking about injury. What's the Worst.
Joel Anderson
Thing. Stop it. Stop it.
Van Lathan
Man. So now we know. Hold on. No, wait, wait. Let's just move.
Joel Anderson
On. Yeah, let's move on. Let's move.
Tate
On. I just. I was trying to ask a genuine question, Joel, about the injury. Like, what's the worst injury you feel at the bottom of a pile? It got off the rails.
Joel Anderson
Quickly. Yeah. I mean, somebody stepped on. Somebody stepped on. They running on my.
Tate
Hand. Yeah, that's what I've heard. I mean, I heard a lot of nutshots also.
Joel Anderson
Man. You know, I never. I don't know what it is. Maybe we just went that dirty down there in Houston ever. But nobody. You know, people barely even talk it. Like, maybe this was a 1995 thing. I don't know what they did in Baton Rouge or whatever or in. In Henderson, North Carolina, But I felt like we didn't really do a lot of talking against our opponents at that age in that time, for whatever reason. I don't know, like, if you went to the pickup to the Y or something, you might talk when you talk with your boys, whatever. But in the actual game, like, unless you did something to me, I don't.
Van Lathan
Know. In an actual game, almost.
Joel Anderson
Never.
Van Lathan
Yeah. In pickup, the. The talking in Baton Rouge was just.
Joel Anderson
Terrible.
Van Lathan
Really? Yeah. You'll shoot the ball, and then you'll be like, hey, as soon as you shoot it, you'll be like, take that dick like a.
Joel Anderson
Man.
Van Lathan
What? The talking was terrible. It was.
Tate
Bro. That was bottom of the pile talk right.
Van Lathan
There. That's bomb with a piece. Hey, hey, take that like a man. You'll be so mad.
Tate
So.
Van Lathan
And. But never like, because the rest. The rest in back home was real, like, 81. What do you say? Like, the refs would, like, real pissed off. What do you. What are you. So what do you say? What'd you say to.
Joel Anderson
Him? Come over.
Van Lathan
Here. But like, in the park and like that. Like, yeah, like you. You in the gym in the catch. Em going crazy.
Joel Anderson
Talking. The catch him. Was that near.
Van Lathan
McKinley? Nah. So McKinley, the Ketchum, was where we all played. It was where me, Michael Clayton played. Marcus Spears used to be there. Silk, the Shaka and Master P. And them used to.
Joel Anderson
Come. Okay. They would fall through.
Van Lathan
Okay. So the Ketchum was the Ketchum Fitness center that was running by Jimmy.
Joel Anderson
Swaggart. Wow.
Van Lathan
Right? So the Family Christian Academy was Jimmy Swaggart's school that he had. The Ketchum Fitness center was connected to Family Christian Academy. And if you was hooping in Baton Rouge, especially on the south side, of the city. You can get to the catch. And the catching was where all the games was, where everybody was.
Tate
Playing. A 4th and 9 right now, by the way, Georgia, 4th and 9, 3:13 to.
Joel Anderson
Play. This.
Van Lathan
Is. This, to me, is the.
Tate
Game. Definitely could be the game.
Joel Anderson
Man. It's.
Tate
Just. I would have played.
Joel Anderson
This. It's crazy to think.
Tate
Of. Oh, my.
Van Lathan
God.
Tate
Open. That's Branch again.
Joel Anderson
Zachariah. Oh.
Tate
Wow. Is he hurt? No, he's.
Van Lathan
Good. And that's a three man rush. Would you have.
Tate
Rush? That's a. Golding likes the three man rush. That's like his.
Van Lathan
Thing. I mean, drop.
Tate
One. That wasn't even a three man rush. That was a two man rush with, like, a.
Van Lathan
Container. That is a great ball, man. From gun layered that ball over the top. So we're already in field goal range. What do you do here.
Joel Anderson
Man? Branch is so cold, man. All right, let's see now. We up here. Watch. Perkins got hell. Come on.
Van Lathan
Man. It's a.
Joel Anderson
Whole. Yep.
Tate
Yep. That's big. Now you're out of field goal.
Joel Anderson
Range.
Van Lathan
Yep. I mean, I sort of blame.
Joel Anderson
That. Hold.
Van Lathan
On. Gunner Stockton right there. Yeah, he's a little indecisive right there. Made his line block a little bit too long.
Tate
Man. I just followed Reddit.
Joel Anderson
Cfb. Come on.
Tate
Billy. Billy, man, I just want to see if they kind of put you on blast again so that I know when to speak.
Joel Anderson
Up. No, you don't need to know that. Yeah, you don't need to know.
Tate
That. We need someone.
Joel Anderson
Watching. Y' all not gonna.
Tate
Do. What do you mean? No, we're gonna share it with you and then defend you.
Van Lathan
Yeah. Ready? Cfb. Don't talk to him like.
Tate
That. I'm.
Van Lathan
Gonna. I'm.
Joel Anderson
Gonna. Actually, you know.
Tate
What? I'm gonna repost what they did to you earlier. I'm gonna say that's not.
Joel Anderson
Right. Don't do.
Tate
That.
Van Lathan
Billy. Leave it.
Joel Anderson
Alone. Stop. I don't need. I don't need. I don't need any more.
Tate
Enemies. Oh, ball tip to the.
Joel Anderson
Line. Oh, man, y'. All. My feet are so many. There's so many seconds behind.
Tate
Oh, what streaming service are you on.
Joel Anderson
Joel? I'm on YouTube TV.
Tate
Man.
Van Lathan
Okay. Oh.
Joel Anderson
Really? Yeah, I.
Tate
Got. That's what I'm on.
Joel Anderson
Too. I finally. I had my. My assistant to cancel my DirecTV.
Van Lathan
Man. Just finally my.
Tate
Assistant. Damn. You had double. Double cable going on for a.
Joel Anderson
While. Well, I had to get it, if you remember, if you recall, because we didn't have.
Tate
YouTube. Yeah, we didn't need it. For four.
Joel Anderson
Months. No, it was two months. That's how fast the world has moved. I think it was at the top of November and I got it for then and I had paid for December and I think. I'm not trying. I don't remember. Do you guys? I'm not gonna go over my bills with y'.
Tate
All. Oh, has the assistant been nice?
Joel Anderson
Joel? I love her, man. She's great.
Van Lathan
Fantastic. What's you guys opinion about the never ending hitch route that. That exists that you seemingly can throw to any athletic player on the outside in college football, like right now, they need to put themselves in a useful down and distance to have a chance to go for this. And again. And they just throw the hitch and branch goes and gets. Goes and gets.
Joel Anderson
It. You know that's right. What.
Van Lathan
Man?
Joel Anderson
He. I. I mean, I know Branches seems like he's had a really good game and he has, but he also has eight receptions for 67 yards. I just didn't realize, man. I was talking about this earlier today, bro. Guys, don't they seem to barely wear leg pads anymore? I just. They look like they're out there in shells. I just cannot believe they're so willing to have their legs exposed like that out there. Well, nobody had anything else to say about that.
Van Lathan
Okay. Hey.
Tate
Hey. A two minute warning.
Van Lathan
Okay? Something just distracted me. My old. My homeboys are hitting me up because my high school and college girlfriend is on the pop the balloon.
Joel Anderson
Show. Oh.
Van Lathan
Really? I thought she was.
Tate
Married. Is she popping the balloons or holding a.
Van Lathan
Balloon? She is the. The one that is going and having the people pop the balloon. She is the. The.
Joel Anderson
She's. She's the Rachel shooters, basically.
Van Lathan
She. She's the. Yeah, she's the. She's the one.
Tate
That. They're the subject of the.
Van Lathan
Popping. The subject. The subject of the.
Joel Anderson
Popping. We'll send the link. What's.
Van Lathan
Up? What's up, everybody? They haven't sent me a leak. They just sending me.
Joel Anderson
Stills.
Van Lathan
Okay. They're like, hey, yeah. Oh, you know they did. They just sent me a.
Joel Anderson
Link. Yeah. Share with the.
Van Lathan
Family. They sent me a link. She. Hold on, I'll send it to you guys. She. She. Is she really mad with.
Tate
Me?
Van Lathan
What? What? What.
Joel Anderson
Man? Billy up here actually quote tweeted these, man. Come on.
Tate
Dog. Billy, I told you I have your.
Joel Anderson
Back. You do not. You do not have my back. What do you mean? I just don't want to. I don't even want to read the.
Tate
Tweet. Joel, it sounds like he has your.
Joel Anderson
Back. I don't even damn. Don't do by Joel Anderson like this. That's my guy. I mean, what.
Van Lathan
A. Hold on. I'm about to. Billy, I'm about to do.
Joel Anderson
It. No.
Van Lathan
Vamp. Come.
Joel Anderson
On.
Van Lathan
Man. Billy. Cause Billy. Billy, come on. That's what we all should be doing.
Tate
Bro. We're family. I retweeted what.
Joel Anderson
Billy. No, I mean, y' all should do it. Y' all should do it with some real in your heart and not. Why don't you guys should do it to support me.
Tate
Bro? Why don't you say exactly what. What should be tweeted at.
Van Lathan
Them? Nothing. Yeah, tell me what should. Nothing should be tweeted at the. You.
Joel Anderson
Don'T. You don't.
Van Lathan
Interact. Everybody on this right now. Everybody on this right.
Tate
Now. That's all people. The same thing. Hey, guys, you give us the.
Joel Anderson
Template. Guys, don't look the chat. Don't do it.
Van Lathan
You. Who are you going to support on.
Joel Anderson
This? Right? Everybody on the chat don't like.
Van Lathan
Quote, tweet this, quote, tweet this. Matter of fact, somebody put. Somebody put a link to the tweet into the.
Joel Anderson
Chat. Come on, man. Yeah, don't. Please. No, don't do.
Tate
That. Need to let Reddit see if.
Joel Anderson
The game is going on. 3rd and N. Hold up.
Tate
Joel. They're gonna know your. Your strength in numbers at this.
Joel Anderson
Point. Here we.
Tate
Go. Third.
Joel Anderson
Nine. Oh. Oh.
Tate
Man.
Van Lathan
Oh, my daddy.
Joel Anderson
Flag. Oh.
Tate
Trinidad. Oh, that's a tough.
Van Lathan
Flag.
Joel Anderson
Oh. Oh, man. They haven't been this mad.
Tate
Since. Since when.
Joel Anderson
Joel? 1968 Civil Rights.
Tate
Acts. I was hoping you're gonna say. Do you guys not remember.
Joel Anderson
That? That's not fair. Y' all remember that. Y' all remember that? Man, I shouldn't even with that man, because you know what? Oh, but wait. He grabbed old boy by the helmet. That's on Georgia, right? Is that.
Tate
Opi? I mean, you can't review a flag, right? Oh, yeah, there's the tweet right there. If you're watching. Graphics in real time, I was.
Joel Anderson
The only one to show appreciation for your work before the show even began, and now y' all be supporting you. Oh, he jumped over him. Oh.
Tate
Damn. Oh, wow. Okay, no, Joey, now you're back on schedule. Timing wise, we're on the same schedule. 145 to play here. Obviously, Georgia. I mean, they're milking the clock. When will Ole Miss start taking.
Joel Anderson
Timeouts? I was wondering about that. Like, what is their plan.
Tate
Here? I thought they want to go to overtime. First down run, you know, they.
Joel Anderson
Want. They want to Go to.
Tate
Overtime. It looks like it. That's how they're playing. Like it.
Joel Anderson
Man. P. Golden, first time head coach.
Tate
Man. Yeah, this is the stuff. He basically has said that this is the reason he doesn't like me. He didn't want to be head coach. He's like, I like, just calling the defense, you.
Joel Anderson
Know? Oh.
Tate
Man. There's a lot more that goes into.
Joel Anderson
It. Oh.
Van Lathan
Man. They got another flag. I think that flag. I don't know if that. That flag might be.
Tate
Opi. I think that was hold or. Yeah, I think it's holding on the defense. He grabbed.
Joel Anderson
Him. Come on.
Tate
Man. Let's.
Joel Anderson
See.
Tate
Wow. Holding on the.
Joel Anderson
Default. Look at Pete golden, man. He's like, y'. All. You Slick Devils. Oh.
Tate
Man. That's exactly what he just.
Van Lathan
Said. Oh, that was, though. Oh.
Joel Anderson
Yeah, he did. He held him. He did.
Tate
Yeah. Yeah. He. I mean, he thought it was a touchdown. That's why he was like, I'll save the touchdown by holding first and.
Joel Anderson
Goal. So. Again. Okay, well, we don't. Okay, let's see what happens here, man. That's a.
Van Lathan
Good. This time, Georgia. If I'm Georgia here, I'll. I'll run the ball here.
Tate
Right? I mean, you're trying to score a.
Joel Anderson
Touchdown. Yeah, of course they're gonna. Oh.
Tate
Man. Oh, get.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. Ole Miss. But.
Tate
Now. Now you call.
Joel Anderson
Timeout. Yeah.
Tate
Okay. Man, I feel like the Manning cast right now when. This is how they are. They're watching games. All they do is. Yeah, now you call.
Joel Anderson
Timeout.
Tate
Yeah. Yeah. So what do you want the tweet to say, Joel? Just so we're all on the.
Joel Anderson
Same page, I want you guys to leave them alone and say nothing as a show of support, because, again, messing with people you don't follow ain't is kind of ho. Shit. As I've explained previously, at the top of the show, you know, you don't follow him. Y' all got nothing to do with this. And y'. All, this. This is engaging in.
Tate
Ho. Well, I followed him, so it's not.
Van Lathan
Ho. Oh, you know, got to follow him.
Tate
Too. Yeah, you got to.
Joel Anderson
Follow. I.
Tate
Follow. Let me follow.
Joel Anderson
Him.
Tate
Follow. Good.
Van Lathan
Idea.
Tate
Follow. Yeah, let me follow. Everybody in the chat, follow.
Van Lathan
Reddit. Everybody in the chat, follow Reddit.cfb as well. I.
Tate
Already. I already followed.
Joel Anderson
Reddit. C. This is why y' all didn't get credentialed.
Tate
Joel. They don't follow me. Don't feel.
Joel Anderson
Offended. They want a.
Tate
Professional. No, we're being professional. We're supporting artists, you.
Joel Anderson
Know? Yeah.
Tate
Yeah. And you and you, our co host. All right, we're all locked.
Joel Anderson
In. I want you all to stop.
Tate
That. We should do hell week in the off season and let Joel, like.
Van Lathan
Explain. Like, you know who the biggest hoes.
Tate
Are? Yeah, biggest.
Joel Anderson
Hoes. I know a few right.
Van Lathan
Now. Hey, people are starting to Tweet@Reddit CFG. Yo, I don't understand why you don't. This is a. This is something I. I gotta tell Tate and them. This. Y' all don't. Y' all wouldn't understand this because this is something y' all don't deal with, but this is something sometimes that exists, like, within our community, within the black community, with brothers not knowing how to accept, support and.
Joel Anderson
Help. Stop it. Get out of.
Van Lathan
Here. Because we're grown up and we're grinding up by this. We're grounded up by this society, right? The same society that lets Tate have two Christmas trees. It grinds. It grinds on me and Joel. Grinds on me and Joe. So what happens is when we get help, sometimes we push the help out. What did Kendrick Lamar say? He said, like, I. I like. If you. If you show me love, I might reject your love. When he said that in the Father time joint from Ms. Morale and the Big Steppers, he said that that's what Joel is doing right now. If you show me, I might reject that love. And Joel is rejecting that love because he doesn't know how to experience.
Tate
It. Crabs in a buc bucket, right? That's what you're.
Joel Anderson
Saying. No.
Van Lathan
I. Look, hold on, Tate. I'm not saying anything about goddamn crabs in the bucket.
Tate
Okay? That's a.
Joel Anderson
Theory. That's how y' all are.
Van Lathan
Being. That's how. No, I'm. What I'm saying is we don't know how to accept the love. You talking about crabs in the.
Joel Anderson
Bucket. I know. The thing is, I'm smart enough to know when love. Where the love exists. I've experienced many kinds of love, and I know that is not love. All right.
Tate
Okay. Georgia, third and goal. Oh, did a shoe come.
Joel Anderson
Off? Did somebody shoe come off out.
Tate
There? All right, so we got a field goal, and they got a.
Joel Anderson
Minute. Oh, they're going to kick a field goal? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. I mean, that's a responsible thing.
Tate
Yeah. Yeah. And then. And then Ole Miss turn it at Chambers is going to have a.
Joel Anderson
Minute. You got a.
Tate
Minute. Get another field.
Joel Anderson
Goal.
Tate
Okay. All right. And Ole Miss, I mean, their kicker, he set his career high 55 yarder, and then he said his career high 56 yarder right after it. So definitely the guy you want kicking a field goal to win the.
Van Lathan
Game. Nobody was.
Tate
Open. Yeah, Good.
Joel Anderson
Defense. Drew Hamilton. That drew Hamilton, 8026. That's right. That's right. What? I'm talking to people in the.
Tate
Chat. What are you. What's the chat.
Joel Anderson
Saying? I'm gonna do my own thing since y' all don't be supporting.
Tate
Me. And we.
Van Lathan
Are. I gotta build you. Yeah, he missed it. He missed it. I'm just.
Joel Anderson
Joking. Oh. I was like, damn.
Van Lathan
Man. Come.
Joel Anderson
On. I was like, what, Joel, what.
Tate
Is the chat saying to you in your side.
Joel Anderson
Chat? I mean, y' all can look at the chat. You know what I'm.
Tate
Saying? Oh.
Van Lathan
Man.
Tate
Y'.
Van Lathan
All. Y'. All. Y' all not supporting us. Y' all not.
Tate
Supporting. Joel's saying he's got soldiers in the chat that are not supporting.
Joel Anderson
Us. I didn't say I have any soldiers. I just. I'm trying to cultivate.
Tate
Some. So are.
Joel Anderson
We. Because.
Van Lathan
People. People.
Joel Anderson
That. People that would support me and not doing. Engaging in.
Van Lathan
Ho. We didn't engage in ho. We taking up for you on your side.
Tate
Bro. They're saying you have an army. Yeah, this is. You said you had no soldiers. Someone tweeted.
Joel Anderson
At. Yeah, I mean, GMOs. Only one with the army's. Only one with the army, not.
Van Lathan
Me. Hey, our top fans. I'm looking at our top fans. Our top fans on this. Number one is at ced 83. Said.
Joel Anderson
83. Okay. That's what's.
Van Lathan
Up. Number one. He's the number one king of. Of whatever's going.
Joel Anderson
On. Said.
Tate
83. Shout out. Said shout.
Van Lathan
Out. To shout out. Said every.
Joel Anderson
83. Is that said class of.
Tate
83? Sure, he could.
Van Lathan
Be. Or maybe he was born in.
Joel Anderson
83. Could be 183. Oh, yeah, that's probably more. Yeah, that's probably more. Yeah. Born in.
Tate
83. Class 83 is gene or which. Whatever your friend's name.
Joel Anderson
Is. Right, Gene?
Van Lathan
Stojo. We got more tweets popping up. Hashtag Joel, army is popping.
Tate
Up. Yeah, yeah. That's what we're saying.
Joel Anderson
Joel.
Tate
Cool. Hashtag, let's go look at my.
Joel Anderson
Boy Decker in there, man. I know. I know. Decker got love for me, dog. That he.
Tate
Said. That is true that Joel has engaged with the chat more than any of us. So he actually knows black game.
Joel Anderson
12. That deck, man. Deck was my roommate when I looked my first move to. To New York, man. We're both. Both. Both married men. Two children. Not that you know, again Nothing. You know, Decker. Decker is an example of a father that I want to be. When I was trying to be a father, I was like, I want to be the kind of father that Decker is.
Van Lathan
So. Shout out. Why is he such a good.
Joel Anderson
Father? Why? He's just really engaged, man. He's out. You know.
Van Lathan
He'S.
Joel Anderson
He. It's. There's no relationship or parenthood thing where it's truly equal because the. The kids are always just going to gravitate to the mom and some. Maybe that's a cop out in some ways, but, like, the kids just demand more for the mom. But once you get past that, Decker is like. You can see that he's as much a primary parent as his wife. I just. I've never seen anybody put in as much work to be a dad as Decker.
Tate
Did. And so is he in the chat? Why are we talking.
Van Lathan
About. He.
Joel Anderson
Is. He was in there.
Van Lathan
Yeah. Shout out to.
Tate
Decker. Appreciate you. I like. You know, we need good fathers out.
Joel Anderson
There. Yeah.
Van Lathan
Man. Chambers Legacy Drive. Also, remember, the Ole Miss kicker has incredible.
Tate
Range. Yeah. Like I said, 55, 56 already in this.
Van Lathan
Game. Yeah. Incredible.
Tate
Range. Are they. I mean, they just ran the ball and they're letting the clock run. They're playing for.
Van Lathan
Overtime. I don't know that they are. I think they were trying to keep them off guard a little.
Joel Anderson
Bit. Now they're gonna pass for me. Oh, man.
Tate
Oh. Oh, he's.
Joel Anderson
Hurt. He's hurt for.
Tate
Real. Oh. Any stand. They just stepped over him while he was down.
Joel Anderson
Man. Damn. All right, homeboy. He sucks. Oh, man. Lee. A leaf. A leaf for an Ole Miss. Came up short then Ole Miss and Lee came short again. Man, who have I heard that story.
Van Lathan
Before? That's.
Joel Anderson
Funny. Frederick Gray's leak, so I hope he's okay.
Van Lathan
Though. You gotta. You gotta. You gotta pick that.
Tate
One. Fifteen for.
Joel Anderson
Real? Yeah, man. Gotta make a play. What they say. Gotta make a play. Oh, man, he's really.
Tate
Hurt. He got.
Van Lathan
Rocks. Yeah. You talking all that about him? Talking about some confederate. The guys hurt. The guys. The.
Joel Anderson
Guys. Is he alive? I mean, he's not.
Tate
Even. No, he's good. He's. I.
Van Lathan
Mean, the way he.
Joel Anderson
Was. I mean, he was on that. I was like, oh, okay. I mean, I.
Van Lathan
Didn'T.
Joel Anderson
No. I mean, I know that he's probably in pain. He's agonizing because look at the crowd. Shot again at Reddit.
Van Lathan
Cfb. How you gonna do the college dorm wrestling champ of 1998? Like.
Tate
That. Joe, you have an army. We were trying to Tell you, the people are trying to speak for you.
Van Lathan
Joe. It's actually heartwarming. Everybody in the chat. If y' all could do. If Reddit, cfp, CFB will not know what hit.
Tate
Them. If they get. They will never quote, tweet you.
Joel Anderson
Again.
Van Lathan
Yeah. Never.
Tate
Again. Get.
Van Lathan
A. Follow the. Georgia. The winner of this game plays Indiana. No. Indiana plays.
Joel Anderson
Oregon. No. The winner of this game plays by.
Tate
Miami. Miami. This is.
Van Lathan
Cart. We.
Tate
Want. I mean, for the drama. We kind of want Georgia to win for the legacy game. Carson back. Legacy game. You.
Joel Anderson
Know. You know what I had, though? Like, just a tinge of desire for old Mr. Win this.
Tate
Game. I mean, either way, it's good TV. No, no.
Joel Anderson
Shade. Yeah. You know, I mean, I just think. Yeah, it's a great story, you know, and I mean, they have been a traditionally not great football program, so.
Tate
Yeah. And it is kind of funny if they. Oh, that's touching. Oh, my.
Joel Anderson
God. Oh, my.
Van Lathan
God. This game is.
Tate
Over. Yeah, that's.
Van Lathan
Over. That is a insane.
Joel Anderson
Throw. Oh, man, that's.
Van Lathan
Some. That's a insane.
Tate
Throw. Now Jordan's got to call timeouts.
Joel Anderson
Right? I mean, yeah, well, yeah, for sure. I mean, dog, it's not. They're not getting the.
Van Lathan
Ball. Insane throw.
Joel Anderson
Man. They don't have any timeouts. That's.
Tate
Right. Georgia has three.
Joel Anderson
Timeouts. No, I'm talking about Ole.
Tate
Miss. Oh, yeah.
Van Lathan
Yeah.
Tate
Oh. Why are you throwing the.
Joel Anderson
Ball? Okay, he's like, bro. He's like. Don't. Don't test me, dog. I like.
Van Lathan
That. Everett, you just had a chance to. To take this game to. Oh, it's over now.
Tate
Oh. Oh, man, he really could have. Yeah. He really have picked.
Joel Anderson
That.
Tate
Yeah.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. It would have been an amazing.
Tate
Play. That was a tough throw, but.
Joel Anderson
They said, make a play, son. Make a.
Van Lathan
Play. I. Am I wrong for thinking that you run this ball twice and then kick the field.
Tate
Goal? Of course. Yeah.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. Center it. But, oh, wait, they don't have a timeout, so they got to make sure they rush up back to the.
Tate
Line, and then I guess that's the reason.
Joel Anderson
Why. Yeah. So this is a 47 yard field goal. If they.
Tate
That's. That's.
Joel Anderson
Cash. What. What.
Tate
Happened? I guess they're scared to run and not.
Joel Anderson
Get. I don't think a 47 yard field goal. No matter in.
Tate
College. It's.
Joel Anderson
Cash. That's. That's. Man.
Tate
47. He's the best kicker in Ole Miss.
Joel Anderson
History. He just broke. Do you all remember Scott.
Tate
Norwood? I. I get what you're saying, Joel. Nothing's a guarantee. I'm just saying. This is. This is. Wow, what a.
Joel Anderson
Throw. Oh, man. I just. I don't know, because what if he gets sacked or something like that? I mean, I guess the thing is, they telling Trinity if he gets.
Van Lathan
Sacked, they shouldn't be throwing the football at all. That's what I'm.
Joel Anderson
Saying. I just kind of. I just don't. Okay, well.
Tate
Fine. Yeah, he's just throwing it.
Joel Anderson
Away.
Van Lathan
Okay. Just throwing that away. Here we go, Chambers. Okay, let's see what.
Joel Anderson
Happens. He said I did my.
Tate
Part. Yeah, yeah, he.
Joel Anderson
Did. I did my.
Van Lathan
Part. Half a milli on the line for. If you're laying Kiffin, do you want them to make the cake? And you know what? Half a million. You.
Joel Anderson
Don'T. I, man, have a million. Ain't nothing for killing Kiffin.
Tate
Man. Yeah, I think he. I think he's over it. I think he wants us to be over.
Joel Anderson
With. Yeah, he's like, man, I mean, I'm making how many million a year? 11 million a year.
Van Lathan
Now. Half a million dollars. A lot of money. Okay, let's see.
Joel Anderson
This. To me, for.
Tate
Sure. Joel has an assistant, man, I.
Joel Anderson
Don'T have the money to do it, but I need it. I need it. I need.
Van Lathan
It. Would you. Would you wrestle Lane Kiffin for a half a million.
Joel Anderson
Dollars?
Tate
Yes. Well, you challenged the fight. He challenged him to a fight for.
Van Lathan
Free. Yeah, that is.
Joel Anderson
True. I didn't say I would fight him. I said that if he had a problem with what I said.
Tate
You. You would answer the.
Joel Anderson
Bell. Yeah, well, I just said. I mean, I. I actually said I would apologize. I said if you think that what I said was that offensive and that I actually called you a hoe, I expect you to be smarter than that. But if you're not, then I. I'm sorry for calling you a hoe. For you thinking that I called you a.
Tate
Hoe. I kind of miss when you could ice the kicker three times, you know? Now you can't call three straight.
Joel Anderson
Timeouts. Oh, I.
Tate
Know. I feel like if he. If Kirby could ice him three times here, then it would be more drama. But, like, if he keeps waiting till different moments to ice.
Joel Anderson
Him. There's empirical data that icing the kicker doesn't.
Tate
Work. I know, but I still like.
Joel Anderson
It. I still like.
Tate
It. I like the pageantry of.
Joel Anderson
It. Kirby didn't do.
Tate
It. Oh, he made.
Joel Anderson
It.
Van Lathan
Game. Oh, yeah. He hit it. That's.
Tate
It. Yeah, that's. I'm telling you, that was.
Joel Anderson
Game. Oh, my.
Van Lathan
God.
Joel Anderson
Every. Everybody's Bracket is now.
Tate
Man. I got one.
Joel Anderson
Wrong. Yeah, but you. That was your. I mean, that was my.
Tate
Chance.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. I mean.
Van Lathan
Yeah. Georgia. Oh, Georgia. Let Ole Miss do it to.
Joel Anderson
Him.
Tate
Right. What a story, though, for. For.
Joel Anderson
Old. Well, this is. It's so much better for them to. Yeah. For Ole Miss to be doing this, man. Oh. Oh, man, they ain't been this.
Van Lathan
Man. Oh, she's.
Joel Anderson
Crying. I know that nose.
Van Lathan
Crinkle. She's.
Joel Anderson
Crying. Oh.
Tate
Man. I mean, Chambers is a.
Joel Anderson
Student. Yeah.
Van Lathan
Man. Good is the.
Joel Anderson
Man. He really is. Man. Shout out to training that.
Van Lathan
Chambers. I cannot wait till he's at LSU next year.
Joel Anderson
Man. Would you rather have him a DJ Lagway.
Van Lathan
Or. Sam Chambers is not coming to lsu. I don't think he's gonna get the extra year. And even if he did, I think he'd go back to Ole.
Tate
Miss. Yeah, I don't think Ole Miss would let him go. I think they pay him well.
Joel Anderson
Man. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. It's. He's already done too much now.
Van Lathan
Right?
Tate
Yeah. LSU would, what, offer him 5 million? That seems to be the prevailing number. But Ole Miss would match.
Joel Anderson
That. Who's going to be the offensive coordinator at Ole Miss? They have a settled that.
Tate
Yet? No, It's Charlie Weiss Jr. Right.
Joel Anderson
Now. He just. Right, but he's not. But Charlie White's going to.
Tate
Lsu. Yeah. I mean, who knows? Maybe they dropped the. The Brinks truck for him, too. Who.
Joel Anderson
Knows? I always feel like it's just so undignified when a team loses like that. That. Oh, man, that looks sad. Oh, look, they talking. Look at.
Tate
Them. Safety. That's.
Joel Anderson
Game. Oh, look how they.
Tate
Talking. I mean, they deserve.
Joel Anderson
It. Yeah, man. Oh.
Van Lathan
Yeah. I mean, you.
Tate
Play. They deserve.
Joel Anderson
It. They play the game. Look, Kirby. Kirby happy for.
Tate
Pete. Yeah, Kirby's. Kirby's all class, you.
Joel Anderson
Know. I mean, Kirby's not. He's one. One of the few people in the world who's not on the hot seat. And he can appreciate a great game and a great story and golding.
Tate
Work for him, you.
Van Lathan
Know?
Tate
Yeah. It's kind of like seeing like, a guy that, you know, is like, having his.
Joel Anderson
Moment. I'm sure. I'm sure he's hurt, you.
Van Lathan
Know. You know what would make me want to fight after a game? For people to do the belt thing. You ain't gotta whoop my.
Tate
Ass. Especially if it was Michael Irvin, you know, and he's got it on a cooler. That'd be wild.
Joel Anderson
Man. The only time in my life that I've Ever. Well, you know what? I shouldn't say it like.
Tate
That. Yeah, let's do it. Say.
Joel Anderson
It. So what happened? So I. I fumbled in our rivalry game my senior year, man. I'm not. Now my. My forward motion is stopped. And then I, I. And I was in a pile, and somebody took the ball out of my hands. It fumbled. The guy picked it up, ran in for a touchdown. We lost the game 14 to 7. And so I was just hurt. Like, I just could not get that out of my head. End of the game comes. St. Thomas is running around the field whooping it up. And the cheerleaders come over, and they. They're, like, talking to me while I'm sitting on the ground. I like crying. I'm, like, sitting there.
Tate
Crying. Oh.
Joel Anderson
Man. And I was like, Man, I really. It was like, the one time I was like, I could hit one of y', all, man. I really. I really. I really would like to. One of y' all up right.
Tate
Now. Did you raise the roof.
Van Lathan
Instead?
Joel Anderson
Yeah. No.
Tate
Song. That would.
Joel Anderson
Be. I didn't raise the.
Tate
Roof. That would be like. I created this. Have you.
Joel Anderson
Guys. I was down, though, bro. Like, that was not a real fumble, but it's.
Tate
Nothing. It was on the list. It was on the whistle, right? Forward.
Joel Anderson
Progress. Wait, what's.
Tate
That? You're saying it was forward progress, like it should.
Joel Anderson
Have? Yeah, for progress. Yeah. I thought the play. And you watched it on. I don't need to get into it, but on tape, I was like. I had stopped. My forward motion had stopped. Stopped. And they. They looked. I guess they let the whistle keep going. The ball got knocked out of my hands, and St. Thomas, 14, straight Jesuit.
Tate
Seven. I'm sorry, Joel.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. Yeah. I think y' all gonna hear about straight Jesuit.
Tate
Tonight. You could let it go, though. Like, you've accomplished a lot since.
Joel Anderson
Then. 30 years ago. 30 years ago this fall, you've.
Van Lathan
Been able to accomplish a lot.
Joel Anderson
Of. Yeah, I am. I'm. I'm proud. I'm proud of my little life.
Tate
Man. All.
Van Lathan
Right. So why. So why are you. Why are you.
Joel Anderson
Still. That still hurt? That's why. So I would have liked to have won that.
Tate
Game. You're just trying to give a reference point for what.
Joel Anderson
George? Yeah, I was giving a reference point. That's right. Yeah. But how it feels about when.
Van Lathan
People, when it was in your face, call you all kinds of hoes and did you. Did you. Did you square up with anybody? You put something on somebody's.
Joel Anderson
Ass? Nah, man. Because most. It was like, three cheerleaders that were in front of me that talked this to me and then want to play. And then one of the players. Boxing classes shout out Greg Gatlin, who. Who has Gatlin's Barbecue in.
Tate
Houston.
Joel Anderson
What? He's the one who returned the fumble. He's a good brother. Runs a. One of the best barbecue restaurants in Houston. But I always said I would never go to his restaurant, man, because that.
Tate
Hurt. Were you friends with the guy.
Joel Anderson
Now? I mean, I ran into him somewhere in the city. I can't remember, maybe a couple years later. And, like, it was cool. Like, we just. He was like, yo, bro, like, you know, you're a good player. You're a good player. Blah, blah, blah. You know, whatever. We went about our.
Tate
Business. They. They put one second back on the clock, by the.
Joel Anderson
Way.
Tate
Really? There's a stage in the.
Joel Anderson
Field. Yeah. Hey, man, Georgia, let me eat some chicken wings while y' all are still playing to celebrate your.
Tate
Demise on the.
Joel Anderson
Field. Do you know what I'm talking about? You know, the reference point there. I'm gonna eat some chicken wings while Georgia's playing, while they're losing in the playoffs. Yeah, I don't remember.
Van Lathan
That. When they.
Joel Anderson
Play. They were playing TCU in the national champion, maybe. People probably turned.
Tate
Off. You know why? Georgia was eating chicken.
Joel Anderson
Wings. Yeah, Georgia was eating chicken wings when they were beating TCU late in the second half of that national championship win. I was.
Tate
Like. It was.
Joel Anderson
Funny. Somebody brought him a plate of chicken wings. They're like, oh, now. Eating chicken wings while I really. They're beating tcu. Well, y'.
Tate
All, you have so much hate, like, pent up inside. Don't let some of this go. That's true, I think, you know, I'm really a.
Joel Anderson
Love. I'm a lover, not a fighter.
Tate
Man. No, someone pointed this out, Joel. Like, I listened to you on the press box. It is like two different people. Like, you know, like, Joel Anderson on the press box is. Is one wolf. Wolf. And then Joel Anderson on this show is a totally different wolf, which.
Joel Anderson
I appreciate, you know, all the same. All the same.
Tate
Guy. I like. I like the range, though. It's good. I had someone. Like, I heard this whole podcast that Joel did on Clarence Thomas. It was so.
Van Lathan
Great. Oh, I hear.
Tate
About. Then I hear him on tailgate. I can't believe that he's the same person if you guys treat him that.
Van Lathan
Way. Hey, bro, the clearance. The clearance. Thomas Park. If you guys. I don't know if Joe even get. Gets anything for it, but Like Slow Burn. Clint Thomas. Slow burn. Who was the other guy y' all did it on? David Duke. Some of the best work ever. It's some of the greatest work ever. But you come over here and he on there, he's talking all this. Here he wrestling guys in his.
Joel Anderson
Dorm. It's the same guy.
Van Lathan
Eating. It's the.
Joel Anderson
Same. I was 18 to 19 years old when I was wrestling them dudes. Dudes, man. And I. And wrestling is not. I mean, again, like, y' all didn't wrestle. Y' all didn't wrestle. You tussle, you in shadow.
Tate
Box. I think you said tussling, which I think is what some people are. Yeah, that's what got people was the.
Joel Anderson
Tussling. Oh, George, in this game. There's not a second left in this.
Tate
Game. Oh, there we.
Joel Anderson
Go. Stop it.
Tate
Gator. A bath. Pete Golding. Honestly, good Gatorade bath response there from Pete Gold. He didn't even.
Van Lathan
Flinch. You know.
Joel Anderson
What? And I'm gonna give. I'm gonna give old Peak. Pete Golding is wearing a really nice. That hoodie is really nice.
Tate
Man.
Joel Anderson
What?
Tate
What? We got more drama. They're saying game not over. They. I think, like, onside kicked the punt and then recovered it. And no time went off the.
Joel Anderson
Clock. So they're going to give. This is.
Van Lathan
Unacceptable. The second. The second didn't go off the clock because they recovered the.
Tate
Ball.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. So Georgia's going to get a one last.
Van Lathan
Play. George is going to get another play, and they gonna score on.
Tate
This. That's what it feels like. We're gonna have a Gatorade bath and then a Georgia.
Joel Anderson
Touchdown. Who was old boy that got. That was a Guy Morris. The Kentucky. That was the LSU game, wasn't it? Where he got. He got the Gatorade bath. And then they had to run it back. And then LSU won on a. The bluegrass miracle. Yeah, man, Georgia looks. Oh, man. They gotta bring the.
Tate
Whole. Oh, yeah. No, it's. This is a debacle. This is, like, so.
Joel Anderson
Mismanaged. This is. I mean, America in a nutshell, man. It's still.
Tate
America, Joel. It's been a couple weeks, but you want to name Decker your daddy of the.
Van Lathan
Day? Yeah. Who's the daddy of the.
Tate
Day? Who's the daddy, Joel? Wasn't it Decker? Wasn't that your friend? Such a good dad.
Joel Anderson
Decker. He's a great.
Tate
Dad.
Joel Anderson
I'm. Yeah, a lot of great.
Van Lathan
Dads. Last play for Georgia.
Joel Anderson
Okay. This is the stupidest thing ever, man. I'm so mad about this. This is so.
Tate
True. I mean, I'm.
Joel Anderson
Just. I'm like, what did you do, Hunt gun of Stockton? Why did. I mean, you didn't even try to throw it down the field. What are the odds that you're going to do this, man? This is. This is undignified.
Tate
Joel. It's not over.
Joel Anderson
Yet. It's undignified. You're not going. They're. You're not going to win this way. She should have thrown it down the field. This is ridiculous.
Tate
Man. What if somebody gets really hurt? It was a forward.
Joel Anderson
Pass. What if somebody really gets hurt? Like.
Tate
This. Yeah. Another forward.
Joel Anderson
Pass. I would be so pissed if I was Pete Golding, man. I'm sure. I know he is.
Tate
Pissed. Yeah, I would have hit the. I would have hit the out of Gunner stocking right.
Joel Anderson
There. Oh, yeah, man. Yeah. Make.
Van Lathan
It. Somebody just said randomly said Tupac in the chat. This was a great.
Joel Anderson
Game. Yeah, it.
Van Lathan
Was. All.
Tate
Right. Finally. We had a good.
Van Lathan
Game. Real quick, before we go. Okay, so our matchups are set. Miami, Ole Miss, Oregon, Indiana. What a motley.
Joel Anderson
Crew.
Van Lathan
Of. There's not a blue blood in the final.
Joel Anderson
Four. No, man. Somebody weird is going to win the championship this.
Van Lathan
Year. I'm. Of those four. I don't think that you could.
Tate
Say I would take Oregon. Of those.
Joel Anderson
Four. Yeah. Oregon.
Van Lathan
Probably. No, I'm saying Oregon's a. You think Oregon's a college football blue.
Tate
Blood. I'm just saying of those four teams, I think that's a good draw for.
Joel Anderson
Oregon.
Van Lathan
Yeah. Well, I mean, I think Oregon's gonna win the national.
Tate
Championship. I honestly, Indiana looked like Indiana.
Van Lathan
Is gonna clearly win the national championship.
Joel Anderson
Now. Yeah. I don't say clearly Oregon because anything can happen. But yeah, I think they're the. The. Yeah, they're the odds on favorite. I guess Fanduel will give us the odds on.
Van Lathan
This. But the more interesting game is who wins. Who wins the Miami Ole Miss.
Joel Anderson
Game? You gotta give me Miami.
Van Lathan
Yeah.
Joel Anderson
Really? Yeah, I think Miami. I mean, obviously we're still underestimating Ole Miss. This is an incredible win.
Tate
Yeah. I feel like Chambliss is the difference, though. Like, if you believe in Ole Miss, it's because you believe in.
Joel Anderson
Chambliss. But that's what I was gonna.
Tate
Say. I think Mezador and Reuben.
Van Lathan
Bane. Hey, Drew Hamilton, 8 026.
Tate
Yes. What'd he.
Joel Anderson
Say?
Van Lathan
Nothing. Drew Hamilton, 8, 8.
Joel Anderson
02. What about this week? What about this week? You should try.
Van Lathan
Again. Yes. The answer is.
Joel Anderson
Yes. Van. Try again this.
Van Lathan
Week. All that. So is Miami a blue.
Joel Anderson
Blood?
Tate
No. Yeah, I.
Joel Anderson
Guess. I mean, it's just kind.
Tate
Of. It's always like.
Joel Anderson
Yukon. Is Yukon a blue blood in basketball? No, see, it's kind of feel like a.
Van Lathan
Seed. Is Yukon.
Tate
You. Are you saying women's and men's? Are you doing like.
Joel Anderson
Men'S? I meant and this because women's, they clearly are women's for.
Tate
Sure. I mean, men's this centuries for sure. I mean, you can make the argument, but I'm just saying blue blood is a tough. It's like if you want to take Indiana out and put in Yukon for men's basketball, I mean, I can, sure, whatever. But. Yeah, that's a tough.
Van Lathan
Conversation. So.
Tate
Okay. I mean, blue bloods in college basketball. Basketball, it's five.
Joel Anderson
Teams.
Van Lathan
Yeah. Oh, what are the.
Tate
Five? North Carolina, Duke, Duke, Kentucky.
Joel Anderson
Kansas.
Tate
Yeah. Kentucky, ucla. Those are your.
Joel Anderson
Five. And it's just like you could say Arizona.
Tate
Right? It's like the next six to.
Van Lathan
Ten you could go, oh, the Duke is out. Yeah, Duke said it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Oh, now he's back. So, so, so then. And college football. Blue bloods then, of the final.
Tate
Four. Oregon, new.
Van Lathan
Blood. Indiana. New.
Joel Anderson
Blood. Man, Oregon's been good for 30 years now.
Van Lathan
Joel.
Joel Anderson
Championship. That's fair point. Fair.
Van Lathan
Point. So, so, so you can't be a blue blood, right? You don't have any national championships. Impossible. So Oregon, Indiana, Ole Miss, Miami. This is the first time I would say in this, in these Final Fours that there's not a blue blood in.
Joel Anderson
There.
Tate
Damn. Miami's the only arguable.
Joel Anderson
One.
Van Lathan
Miami. Miami's the arguable one.
Tate
Right? Yeah, yeah. Michael Irvin's gonna put a.
Van Lathan
Picture. Okay. You can say that Miami is a. Is a blue blood, but if you're looking at the blue bloods, maybe even the year the LSU was there, there was no blue blood blood. You can maybe look at that because, like, that year, it was what, lsu, Clemson, Clemson, Texas. What was the other.
Joel Anderson
Team?
Van Lathan
Texas. Not Texas. Lsu, Clemson.
Joel Anderson
Oklahoma. Oklahoma.
Van Lathan
Yeah. Lsu, Clemson.
Joel Anderson
Oklahoma. Oklahoma's a blue.
Tate
Blood. Oklahoma's a blue.
Joel Anderson
Blood. Oklahoma's a blue.
Van Lathan
Blood. Oklahoma's a blue blood. Okay, cool. Texas is a blue blood for like, whatever in this. I don't know, Miami, you could count Miami as a blue blood if you want, but Miami really hasn't been a consistent.
Joel Anderson
Enough.
Van Lathan
Yeah. College football program to be on that level. I think they're like lsu. I think they're a tier two team. Yeah. And that's right. I think they're a tier two.
Tate
Team. And by tier two, you're saying like six to 12. You know, I think people here too, like, they, they go, like, what? Disrespecting my.
Joel Anderson
Program. It's like, I mean, yeah, I mean, when was the last time Miami won a conference.
Tate
Championship? This would be a chance. If Miami wins a national championship before an ACC championship, that would be one of the.
Joel Anderson
Funniest. That'd be.
Tate
Crazy. That would be ACC chaos in a nutshell right.
Van Lathan
There. And that's what they say. The, the, the, the, the chat says Miami has won five national championships and has played for like.
Tate
10. Yeah, we said, we said that they're the most blue blood that's.
Joel Anderson
In. Yeah, they're the most. I don't, I don't think that. Yeah, I mean, it's like Alabama, Oklahoma, I guess maybe usc, Michigan, Ohio State. How many more blue bloods Texas, I guess, can be in there? That's probably the first tier of college football. Bluebirds and whoever, you know, right after that is. And again, Miami has more national championships than a bunch of those teams. But I mean, and I'm sure that like, kids that are, that were born in like 1995, like, you know, they may have, they may feel differently about who the blue bloods are. We, our knowledge, our frame of reference goes back away.
Van Lathan
So. Okay, well, all right then. Look, if, if we're saying that Miami is a blue blood, five national championships is a shit ton. If we're saying it. They, they are, they are not. As. Their blood isn't blue. Right. As, as blue right now as it's been in the.
Tate
Past? Yeah, it's a little bit.
Joel Anderson
Lighter.
Van Lathan
Yeah. A little bit clearer, lighter blue. But I guess my point is that this is a motley crew of, of a college football final four is certainly, I mean, the most interesting one that we've seen in a while. If you are Oregon, you have got to be clamoring for that national.
Tate
Champion. Yeah. Oregon, you got to be like, we're due. I mean, we have to win.
Joel Anderson
Now also Miami, you can't say that you're a blue blood and you haven't been. You haven't finished a season ranked in the top 10 since 2003. I mean, I'm sorry, that's just. I'm sorry, you.
Van Lathan
Can'T. I guess the question is, can you lose that status? Because, I mean, if that's the case, Nebraska was once.
Joel Anderson
One. Yes. Fair point. Yeah, but I.
Tate
Didn'T. Listen, you can, I think it's a 30 year grace period and then you lose it. Like Indiana basketball, last championship is 1988. You.
Joel Anderson
Know? Yeah. I mean, UCLA. I mean, was. You said it was 94.
Tate
95. 95. Jim Herrick. Yeah. So, like.
Joel Anderson
They'Re.
Tate
They're. They're on the chopping block, like, coming up, UCLA is no longer a blue blood now.
Joel Anderson
Yeah. Ty.
Van Lathan
Said. All right. They're saying we don't know what a blue blood is. Real quick.
Joel Anderson
Quick.
Van Lathan
What. What. What is a blue blood? To the chat, then the chat said, interesting logic. Two tier, two teams having the two best college football teams of all.
Joel Anderson
Time. I mean, but what does that.
Van Lathan
Mean? Y'. All. Y' all know how I feel about, like, 2019 LSU. By the way, that Miami team had a lot of Louisiana people on it. But. But. But, like, you're right. Ed Reed, New Orleans. So not a lot of Louisiana people. Some Louisiana people. What I'm saying is most of those guys are in Florida. I'll take away from that team. But. But to me, part of the blue blood thing is also the brand and the consistency each and every decade that you. That you kind of get to. I get. I understand what you guys are saying, but what y'. All. To the chat. What do y' all think of blue blood.
Joel Anderson
Is. Tell us on.
Van Lathan
Tuesday.
Tate
Yeah. Should we wait till then? Should we.
Joel Anderson
Wait? Yeah, let's wait till.
Tate
Tuesday. Let's.
Joel Anderson
Accumulate. Is.
Tate
Yeah. Is a playoff working? Like the 12 team playoff if you keep getting a final Four where everyone's kind of like, ooh, these are random teams and the bi week is.
Van Lathan
Hurting. I think it worked this year. I think today was a great day of ball. I. I am. I have never been more intrigued for a playoff game that doesn't involve LSU as the Ole Miss Miami game. That's a fascinating game. Yeah, that is. That is storylines and storylines and storylines. You got the Kiffin thing. You got Ole Miss in their first playoff appearance. You have Miami in their first 12 team playoff appearance. One team trying to get to something they've never gotten to before, another team trying to recapture something that they've had before. That is really interesting. I think this is. This might be. This four might be the most interesting Final Four that could have possibly.
Joel Anderson
Existed. Okay. All.
Van Lathan
Right. It's a little bit. I'm winning. It's a little bit more boring if Bama's in it. They've been there so many.
Joel Anderson
Times. Georgia be the clear favorite.
Van Lathan
Favorite. It's a little bit more boring if Ohio State's in it. But this group, this four teams right here, this is by far the most interesting Final Four you could have.
Joel Anderson
Had. And it Covers a tremendous cross section of the country. I mean, you've got Oregon at one end, Miami at the other, Indiana up here, Ole Miss down here. It really. It really, truly is like an.
Tate
Amer. Yeah, it's.
Joel Anderson
Awesome. From all four corners of the country.
Tate
Basically. Basically west coast, Midwest, deep south, and then Florida, which is his own thing. Or Miami, especially its own thing. So, yeah, pretty good. Also Pete Golding, if they win the championship, did they build him a statue? I would.
Van Lathan
Just.
Tate
Statue. Yeah, yeah. Build this guy's statue for sure. What a.
Joel Anderson
Championship. They gonna put it right next to Charlie Kirk. Okay, I'm ready to go. I'm trying to get a. The.
Van Lathan
End. Yeah. That was the way to do.
Tate
It. End of the.
Van Lathan
Show. That was the way to do it. We got last episode, we got nearly 800 people in here, which is with tailgate. I'm kidding. Tailgate. We going up. We got nearly 800 people. Appreciate y' all shows. How to show how. How you know the numbers. You could probably do if we could go later on in the day, whatever, but we got nearly 800 people in here. And Joel making jokes about that. That almost got everybody fired. All kinds of crazy. I guess we gotta go.
Joel Anderson
227. I mean, not. Not if. Not if Van Bill Simmons, Lathan stands up for your boy and y'. All. Y', all, you know, invest in that whole. We won't get fired. All right, let's go, Doug. I'm ready to.
Tate
Go. All right, Joel. I think Joel's trying to. Trying to end the show as he did a few weeks ago as well. We appreciate everybody tuning in to Ring of Tailgate. A lot of fun. We will be back next week. We're going to preview the games. We'll be live next week as the games are happening. We appreciate everybody tuning in. Let's do it one more time. Might be the last time. Appreciate everybody listening and we will see you next. Must be 21 or older in president. Select states for Kansas and affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 and older in present in D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-G GAMBLER or visit rghelp.com, call 1-888-78-97777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit MD gamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gambling helpline ma.org or call 800-327-5050 for 27 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text HOPE NY in New.
Date: January 2, 2026
Hosts: Van Lathan, Joel Anderson, Tate Frazier
This live edition of Ringer Tailgate recaps an action-packed day of College Football Playoff (CFP) quarterfinals—a historic slate marked by upsets, blowouts, and shifting narratives for some of the sport’s biggest brands. Van, Joel, and Tate bring their trademark blend of sharp analysis and irreverent banter, diving into the shocking demise of Alabama, Miami’s revitalization, coaching legacies, the fate of blue bloods, and the chaos of live reactions as the games unfold.
Notable Quote – Van Lathan ([09:18])
“They just got into a situation where they can’t block and tackle as well as the other guys ... their will kind of got taken from them.”
Memorable Moment – Michael Irvin Antics ([21:57]–[24:41])
“Michael Irvin put an Ohio State jersey on a Gatorade cooler, and then he whipped it with a belt. ... Since we pointed that out, Michael Irvin has become unhinged to a level that I don’t think I’ve ever seen an alumni fan ever.”
Notable Quote – Van Lathan ([31:43])
“What you saw on that field was the new era of college football showing itself to the entire world. And man, did it show itself. ... At times I felt bad for them. I was like, they are getting their [expletive] destroyed.”
Notable Quote – Joel Anderson ([55:56])
“That’s some whole ass [expletive] bro, quote-tweeting somebody. ... Don’t talk to me. Just don’t talk. Don’t follow me. We don’t have to do that.”
Notable Quote – Van Lathan ([119:03])
“So you can’t be a blue blood, right? If you don’t have any national championships. Impossible. ... This is the first time in these final fours that there’s not a blue blood.”
“They just got into a situation where they can’t block and tackle as well as the other guys … their will kind of got taken from them.”
Van Lathan – reflecting on Ohio State’s loss to Miami ([09:18])
“Michael Irvin put an Ohio State jersey on a Gatorade cooler, and then he whipped it with a belt.”
Van Lathan – describing Irvin’s wild Miami fandom ([23:49])
“That’s Ali vs. Liston is what you just saw on the football field. … I felt bad for them. I was like, they are getting their [expletive] destroyed.”
Van Lathan – after Indiana’s thrashing of Alabama ([31:43])
“That’s the type of shit that would make me fire Kaylin DeBoer.”
Van Lathan – on Alabama’s “cute” fourth-down play ([35:19])
“The Alabama dynasty was already over. ... This is their reputation being over. And that’s a different thing.”
Van Lathan ([38:58]–[41:30])
“That’s some whole ass [expletive] bro, quote-tweeting somebody. ... Don’t talk to me. Just don’t talk. Don’t follow me. We don’t have to do that.”
Joel Anderson – on social media “infractions” ([55:56])
Opening banter, cheer dispute:
[01:25]–[02:49]
TCU/Alamo Bowl win banter:
[03:27]–[06:29]
Miami vs. Ohio State rundown and analysis:
[08:31]–[21:57]
Alabama vs. Indiana dramatic breakdown:
[25:24]–[41:30]
Oregon–Texas Tech, Big 12 struggles:
[42:41]–[48:22]
Live Sugar Bowl reactions:
[65:37]–[116:02]
Final Four scenario & blue bloods debate:
[116:02]–[124:54]
As ever, the show is fast, loose, and unapologetically honest, mixing high-level football IQ with irreverent humor, real-time roasts, and the chaos of live reactions. Listeners are as likely to hear deep Xs and Os as they are to get a spirited rundown of college football Twitter etiquette, veteran fan storytelling, and debate over conference pride or “blue blood” legitimacy.
For next week: The Tailgate crew will be live, previewing the wackiest Final Four in CFP history. Get ready for more chaos, more analysis, and plenty more “raising the roof” on college football’s new normal.