Ringer Tailgate - Episode Summary
Podcast: Ringer Tailgate
Episode: Week 2 CFB LIVE reactions: Oregon dominates, Clemson struggles, & Florida loses
Date: September 7, 2025
Hosts: Van Lathan, Joel Anderson, and Tate Frazier
Episode Overview
This live episode of Ringer Tailgate dives deep into the chaos and storylines of a wild Week 2 in college football. The hosts react in real-time to upsets, quarterback struggles, conference pride debates, and much more, blending sharp analysis with signature banter. The big narratives are Oregon's total dominance, Clemson’s surprising struggle with Troy, and Florida's shocking defeat at home to South Florida.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Week 2 “Letdown” Games & Real-Time Reactions
- Key Focus: Traditionally less-hyped Week 2 slate turns out to be beautifully chaotic with potential upsets everywhere (Clemson-Troy, South Florida-Florida).
- Van Lathan: “People thought that this would not be a great week of college football. They were wrong.” (03:23)
- Joel Anderson: “Anyone can love Week 1... This is for the real heads right here.” (03:36)
2. Who’s Having the Worst Day? – Start, Bench, Cut: Gundy, Dabo, Napier
- Hosts debate which coach is in most hot water.
- Van: Rules out Gundy (“massive, massive dog” vs Oregon), narrows it down to Dabo (Clemson) and Napier (Florida).
- Sharp critique of Florida’s lack of identity and dynamism:
“Florida doesn't look dynamic in any way, shape or form. They don't look overwhelming and dominant in any phase.” (04:24) - On Clemson’s struggles: “That is Troy coming into Clemson and what was supposed to be a get right game for them and showing that they still wrong.” (05:30)
3. Florida’s Upheaval & South Florida’s Signature Win
- In-depth analysis of Florida’s loss and what it means for Napier’s job security and program trajectory.
- Joel: “It is what it is... It’s not fair for Billy Napier that he’s being judged on this season, but it is what it is. So lose this game.” (06:05)
- The hosts note that if USF wins, they're likely the Group of Five leader (“absolutely” for NY6). (08:53)
4. No Such Thing as a College Football “Expert”
- Van Lathan's Take:
“There is no such thing as a college football expert.” (09:51) - Breaks down the inherent unpredictability of teams; references Florida State’s failed anointment last year and current overrated projections:
“If you're telling me that there's somebody who can... tell you how good [a team is] or how good they're going to be, I don't think that exists.” (10:02) - Cites Clemson as this year’s example.
5. Regional Rivalries & Why They Matter
- Joel Anderson: Emotional defense of regionalism in the sport: “Regionalism is what makes this game great... The thing you cannot recreate is the feeling that ISU gets from being in Iowa, from KU playing Mizzou...” (13:26)
- Stories about border rivalries, cultural enemies, and why conference expansion can’t replicate those stakes.
- Van: “These are your neighbors. These are your cultural enemies.” (16:08)
6. SEC Struggles and Conference Power Shifts
- The hosts debate whether the SEC is down this year—lack of great teams, ugly games, and poor quarterbacking.
- Van: “What is going on right now in the sec, man?” (17:39)
- Specific criticism of Kentucky/Ole Miss and “struggles-ville performances.”
7. The “Too Many Games” Debate
- Tate Frazier: “There’s too many games. I want to watch all these games... I was missing things...” (18:28)
- Van (with classic food metaphor): “You have to watch the college football slate like you comport yourself at a Fogo de Chão.” (19:31)
- Joel: Questions the utility of multilview—“You can’t actually take anything in this way...” (21:41)
- General agreement: Impossible to be an “expert” when so much is on at once.
8. Top 5 Teams Debate
- Joel’s Top 5 (off the cuff):
- Ohio State
- LSU
- Georgia
- Miami
- Oregon
- Iowa State (honorary mention; best resume so far)
- Discussion on Georgia’s “meh” 28–6 over Austin Peay and Oregon’s brute dominance.
9. Is Florida State the Best Team?
- Massive praise for FSU’s attitude and “executing with intensity.”
- Van: “Florida State...play[s] with precision, they play with intensity, they play with purpose, and they dominate where they're supposed to dominate.” (26:28)
- Debate over whether crushing bad teams should count—Van says yes for execution; Joel says not for resume.
10. Biggest Things of the Day: Quarterbacks and Development
- Joel: Urges patience with Arch Manning and other “ballyhooed” QBs:
“Development is not necessarily a linear process.” (30:26) - Arch analysis: “He didn't play that great today...A lot of the balls that arch threw were in gigantic windows.” (33:08)
- Additional color on fan and parental body language.
11. Coach Prime Watch: Colorado QB Carousel
- Reaction to Deion Sanders apparently leaning toward Ryan Staub (“Martin Luther Staub”) after QB change sparks better play.
- Martin Luther nickname story: “If he really is like Martin Luther King, he gonna have a hell of a night tonight after the game.” (52:34)
12. USF’s Statement Win over Florida – Breakdown
- Play-by-play reaction as USF upsets Florida in the Swamp with a last-second field goal.
- Van: “If this game ends up right now in a victory from South Florida that we called, I'm gonna drop my nuts all over college football because you guys bet with us, man.” (43:19)
- Immediate speculation on Napier’s job security and Florida fans' mental state post-game.
13. Notable Memorable/Entertaining Moments
- Running gags about Blue Sky social, “skeets” (the name for posts), and Van’s live LSU anxiety derailing focus.
- Van: “I've been using multi-view for a long time, just not for football... Now that it allows you to curate the multiview? Yeah, crazy.” (21:49)
- Northwestern State literally surrenders to Minnesota, new for all: “They surrendered. That was the term that they used.” (71:44)
14. Nick Saban Calls Out Big Ten NIL Advantage
- The hosts bristle at Saban’s post-coaching comments about NIL and conference advantage.
- Van: “What I don't want Nick Saban to become is the thing that I hate more than anything. Boy, do I hate an old ass hater.” (82:22)
- Lively discussion about how the sport’s balance of power is perpetually cyclical, now driven by money.
15. SEC “Integration” History Debate
- Joel puts forth a “Nick Saban integrated the SEC” as a recruiting boundary breaker.
- Van questions the terminology but agrees Saban kept instate recruits home, changing LSU’s trajectory.
- Spirited, joking analogies and pushback; will revisit data next week.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Van Lathan: “There is no such thing as a college football expert.” (09:51)
- Joel Anderson: “Regionalism is what makes this game great... the feeling that ISU gets from being nioa, from KU playing Mizzou...” (13:26)
- Tate Frazier: “We had 79 games today. FBS games. There's too many games. I want to watch all these games...” (18:28)
- Van Lathan: “You gotta prioritize. You gotta...nibble, nibble, nibble, taste, and then feast on the most sustenance filled meal. That's how you do these games.” (19:31)
- Van Lathan on FSU: “They are dropping their nuts all over the place. I've been unbelievably impressed by what I've seen from Florida State, and that includes today.” (27:44)
- Joel Anderson on quarterback play: “Development is not necessarily a linear process.” (30:26)
- Van Lathan (on the sting of his own team’s struggles): “I'm not going to be a very good podcaster while LSU is on...like this is...there were no pro sports in Baton Rouge. You lived and died by this.” (78:21)
- On the term “Skeets”: “So on blue sky, you skeet somebody. You skied on them.” (41:01)
- Northwestern State surrenders: “I have never seen this. Northwestern State formally surrendered to Minnesota today.” (71:43)
Key Live Timestamps
- [03:23] – Van: Why this “boring” week is actually amazing CFB
- [04:24] – Van: Who’s having the worst day: Gundy, Dabo, or Napier?
- [06:05] – Joel: Florida’s must-win schedule pressure
- [09:51] – Van: “There is no such thing as a college football expert”
- [13:26] – Joel: Regionalism in college football
- [17:39] – Van: “What is going on right now in the SEC, man?”
- [18:28] – Tate: “There’s too many games”
- [21:41] – Joel: Multiview is “not actually taking in anything”
- [23:04] – Joel’s Top 5 teams
- [26:28] – Van: Praise for Florida State’s “purpose” and “joy”
- [30:26] – Joel: On the non-linear nature of QB development
- [33:08] – Van: Arch’s pedestrian day hides behind stats
- [43:19] – Van: “If this game ends up right...I’m gonna drop my nuts all over college football...”
- [52:34] – Van: “If he really is like Martin Luther King, he gonna have a hell of a night tonight after the game”
- [71:43] – Tate: Northwestern State surrenders to Minnesota
- [82:22] – Van: Saban “turning into an old ass hater”
- [93:04] – Joel & Van: Was Saban the SEC’s “integrator”?
Flow & Energy
The hosts’ energy and sense of chaos matched the day's slate. Passionate rooting (especially from Van for LSU), irreverent analogies (buffet strategies, family legacies), and recurring live check-ins gave the show a dynamic, living-room-watch-party vibe. Humor about “skeets,” body language, and college football rituals kept the tone accessible despite deep and nuanced CFB analysis.
For Listeners Who Missed It
This episode was both an analytical breakdown of major CFB stories and a real-time emotional rollercoaster as upsets unfolded. Major storylines included Florida’s disaster, Oregon’s dominance, the collapse of SEC invincibility, and the continuing mystery of how to rank this year’s contenders. Banter about regional identity, college football “experts,” and quarterback hope/hype was highlight-worthy. The episode’s live setting and interplay made it both insightful and entertaining even for those who didn’t catch every game.
Next Up
- The Ringer team promises more deep dives on Wednesday, including follow-ups on today’s hottest topics (FSU, SEC, and the power balance), and real data on Joel’s Nick Saban thesis.
- Look for Wednesday’s show to contextualize all the wildness from this Saturday’s games and dissect the fallout from major upsets.
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