Episode #159. Why Clinicians Must Stop Waiting and Start Building with AI, with Hassan Bencheqroun, CEO of the Medical AI Academy

Summary

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Risk Never Sleeps Podcast

Episode #159: Why Clinicians Must Stop Waiting and Start Building with AI
Guest: Dr. Hassan Bencheqroun, CEO of the Medical AI Academy
Host: Ed Gaudet
Released: December 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this engaging and lively episode, Dr. Hassan Bencheqroun (“Dr. B”), CEO of the Medical AI Academy, joins Ed Gaudet and co-host Saul Marquez to discuss the transformative power of AI in healthcare. The conversation centers around how clinicians must shed hesitation and actively build AI-driven solutions to improve patient care and safety. Along the way, the hosts explore Dr. B’s journey, the importance of AI literacy for clinicians, notable innovations, personal philosophies, and practical advice for would-be “builders” in medicine.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Dr. Bencheqroun and the AI-Ready Movement

[01:21] Dr. B’s Podcast and Mission

• Dr. Bencheqroun introduces himself as “the AI-ready doctor,” hoping all clinicians can achieve AI readiness.
• The Medical AI Academy’s podcast focuses on AI awareness, fluency, and literacy for clinicians:
  “It’s about AI awareness, AI fluency, and AI literacy.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [01:21]

[01:43] Importance of Clinician Engagement with AI

• Dr. B sees the present as a pivotal moment for AI adoption in medicine.

2. Addressing Misconceptions & Fears about AI in Healthcare

[03:27] Common Physician Misconceptions

• Some physicians fear AI will replace them or eliminate the human touch:
  “No one can touch patient’s hearts, no one can reassure them... AI can’t do that.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [03:34]
• Drawing analogies to the advent of the internet, computers, and calculators — initial fears give way to adaptation.
• The conversation highlights that human connection and empathy in patient care are irreplaceable but can be augmented by AI.

3. AI in Practice: Innovations from the Field

[06:21] Real-World AI Solutions in Hospitals

• Dr. B shares a conference insight about advanced AI systems predicting patient falls at night—a major safety issue.
  • “There was an AI for that. It delineates the body... as it moves towards a position where it might fall. Gives you a prediction of that. That is amazing.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [06:55]
• AI minimizes “alarm fatigue” by offering predictive analytics instead of blanket alerts.

[07:39] Future of Hospital Automation

• Robots and automation in patient rooms are discussed—judicious deployment of empathy and practical assistance:
  • “And it might have more empathy.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [07:56]

[08:15] AI in Medical Education

• Dr. B describes an experiment comparing traditional morning report rounds with AI-supported education for medical students.
  • “Both... learned something, and they were most engaged.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [08:15]

4. Dr. B’s Origin Story & Philosophy

[08:54] Personal and Professional Background

• Dr. B is originally from Tangier, Morocco, and became a doctor out of lifelong passion.
• He emphasizes the importance of returning to one’s roots and giving back:
  “You first learn, then you earn, and then you return.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [09:37]

[10:03] Social Media Milestone

• Dr. B’s sharing of motivational posts attracted recognition from Denzel Washington himself:
  • “Guess who liked it? Denzel Washington. Mic drop.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [10:11]

5. Perspective on Readiness, Action, and Building with AI

[16:15] Advice to Builders and Innovators

• Dr. B’s core message for those hesitant to start with AI:
  • “Just start. Ready is not a state. It's a decision... Somebody else started messy, and they're getting ready while you're still waiting.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [16:15]
• He advises embracing intentional learning and a “builder” mindset, studying the underlying fundamentals of the systems and tools one wants to master.

[17:05] Regret vs. Failure

• Dr. B’s philosophy is shaped by a near-death experience that led to his ethos of action without regret:
  • “I would rather have failures than regrets.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [17:05]
  • “Everything after that is just borrowed time. And from that point on, no regrets.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [17:10]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On readiness and action:
  • “Ready is not a state. It’s a decision.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [16:15]
  • “While you're trying and waiting to get ready, somebody else started messy, and they're getting ready while you're still waiting.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [16:20]
• On embracing AI and new skills:
  • “Everything that I had a fear of, I’m going to go and do it... I want to be intentional about it, so I actually study it.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [18:15]
• On competition:
  • “People tell me, who are you competing with? And I say, myself, in 10 years.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [12:46]
• On living life without regret:
  • “I should have when I could have. That’s it.” — Dr. Bencheqroun [20:18]

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Highlighted Segment Timestamps

• [01:21] — Dr. B introduces his podcast and AI literacy mission
• [03:34] — Addressing physician fears about AI’s role in healthcare
• [06:21] — Real-world use case: AI predicting patient falls
• [08:15] — AI’s positive impact on medical education engagement
• [16:15] — Dr. B’s core message: Don’t wait for readiness, just start
• [17:10] — Story of survival and adopting a life without regrets

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Additional Insights & Personal Touches

• Dr. B’s cultural background influences his approach to medicine and teaching, embodying the values of learning, earning, and giving back.
• The conversation is peppered with humor, music and book recommendations, pop culture, and friendly banter, reflecting the importance of humanity in technology-driven healthcare.
• Dr. B’s Medical AI Academy and “AI-ready doctor” brand encourage clinicians worldwide to participate, learn, and lead in the AI revolution.

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Where to Find Dr. Bencheqroun

• Website: medicalaiacademy.com & theAIreadydoctor.com
• LinkedIn: Active and shares updates regularly

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Episode Summary:
Dr. Hassan Bencheqroun urges clinicians to dispel fears and inertia around AI, embracing curiosity and action over perfection. He advocates intentional learning and practical experimentation, sharing that “readiness” is a choice, not a destination. His approach blends technological optimism with a deep love for human connection and resilience, leaving clinicians with a powerful call: stop waiting, start building, and let neither fear nor regret dictate your influence on the future of medicine.

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Transcript

[Ed Gaudet]

Foreign.

[Ed Gaudet (Host Intro/Outro)]

Welcome to Risk Never Sleeps, where we meet and get to know the people delivering patient care and protecting patient safety. I'm your host, Ed Gaudet.

[Saul Marquez]

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the aimed 25 insight series. Saul Marquez here. And I am here with no one other than my co host, Ed Gaudet.

[Ed Gaudet]

Ed's not here. I brought Christopher Walken with me. That's so awful.

[Saul Marquez]

It's good to see you again, Ed. Thanks for joining.

[Ed Gaudet]

See you too, Saul.

[Saul Marquez]

We are with Hassan Benchkron. He is the CEO of Medical AI Academy. Hassan, so glad you could join us.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Thank you for the invite.

[Saul Marquez]

It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. How's the meeting going for you so far?

[Hassan Benchkron]

It's one of those times where you feel smart and dumb at the same time.

[Ed Gaudet]

I love that. That's every waking minute of my life.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Well, usually it's one or the other.

[Ed Gaudet]

No, together. Actually, that's my problem.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Two Brain.

[Ed Gaudet]

I got the two Brain thing.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

It's awful. Awful.

[Saul Marquez]

Yeah, it is.

[Ed Gaudet]

He's a fellow podcaster.

[Saul Marquez]

Yeah. Tell us about your podcast.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah, it's called the. Well, I am the AI ready doctor. And I hope that all my fellow clinicians can be AI ready as well. So it's about AI awareness, AI fluency, and AI literacy.

[Ed Gaudet]

Getting AI ready.

[Hassan Benchkron]

This is the time, right?

[Ed Gaudet]

This is the place. Aimed25.

[Saul Marquez]

What brings you to the conference, Hassan?

[Hassan Benchkron]

An Uber.

[Saul Marquez]

That'S powered by AI?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Indeed. Actually, it's more Waymo. If that's the case.

[Saul Marquez]

This is true.

[Ed Gaudet]

Do they have Waymo here in San Diego?

[Saul Marquez]

Not in San Diego. Not yet.

[Ed Gaudet]

Experienced the Waymo yet?

[Hassan Benchkron]

I have.

[Ed Gaudet]

You have? Tell me.

[Hassan Benchkron]

First time I took it, there was somebody in there. And I'm like, well, that beats the whole purpose. They said we wanted to interest people to get into the Waymo. So there was somebody here. I'm like, well, I'm not sure. You killed experience.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. Because if you're getting in a Waymo, you're in there for the experience. You don't want anybody there.

[Hassan Benchkron]

And then he tells me nobody just.

[Ed Gaudet]

Randomly gets into a Waymo.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Seriously.

[Saul Marquez]

Right.

[Hassan Benchkron]

But then he said, that's how we did it with the elevators. The elevator butler. Oh, I never thought that's why they had those people.

[Ed Gaudet]

I say, bring back the elevator butler.

[Hassan Benchkron]

It makes you feel good obnoxious these days. I love that.

[Saul Marquez]

What floor?

[Ed Gaudet]

When everyone's jobs are removed and eliminated. Elevator Butler. That's it. Elevator Butler Academy.

[Hassan Benchkron]

And that's why they have physician butlers, because AI is going to take the jobs that. No, I'm just kidding.

[Ed Gaudet]

Elevator butler ready?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Indeed.

[Ed Gaudet]

I'm going to do the podcast.

[Saul Marquez]

So anything on the AI front? I want to make sure we cover some AI stuff.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, we will. Don't kill the vibe here, Saul. Listen, I'm just starting killing the vibe here.

[Saul Marquez]

I'm just getting us right.

[Ed Gaudet]

We just sailed in the last comp.

[Saul Marquez]

That was.

[Ed Gaudet]

That was.

[Saul Marquez]

Man, we were sailing. We were sailing like 15 foot waves.

[Ed Gaudet]

I know.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I think we didn't call Saul. That's why.

[Saul Marquez]

Better Call, baby.

[Ed Gaudet]

Better call.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah.

[Saul Marquez]

What's one of the most common misconceptions that you see from physicians wanting to adopt AI?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Wanting to adopt AI. First of all, those that don't want to adopt AI, and they say that it's going to take our job, we just need to retire, that it's tired now. No one can touch patients hearts, no one can reassure them, no one can get the context, no one can hold the patient's hand. AI can't do that.

[Ed Gaudet]

I don't think I want my handheld though. Yeah, do I?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah, you do.

[Ed Gaudet]

Really?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah. Sometimes fear can bring out the non caffeinated person in us. That's fair.

[Ed Gaudet]

That's a good point. Actually. Fear does do that. Does. Yeah.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I think it's more along the lines of if we first looked at the Internet and got afraid of it or the computers or. Do you remember calculators when they said that no one's going to learn anything anymore.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yet here we are, still learning to understand how good analogies works.

[Saul Marquez]

Hasan's got good analogies.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

He's probably a poet. Are you a poet? Do you write poetry?

[Hassan Benchkron]

I could start. Yeah, that might be with AI. You could do that.

[Ed Gaudet]

Don't do that with AI, please.

[Saul Marquez]

Eds a poet, by the way.

[Ed Gaudet]

That like kills. Kills the whole vibe.

[Saul Marquez]

If you. He just got published in Jamaica.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. October.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I'm going to tell you this. Let's do AI versus a human poetry. And let's see.

[Ed Gaudet]

It's hard to do. Actually, it is because AI is not a human. And the whole thing about poetry, it's human experience.

[Hassan Benchkron]

So that I agree with. But we can humanize it.

[Ed Gaudet]

So can we though.

[Saul Marquez]

Really?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yes. I don't know.

[Saul Marquez]

I just have to ask you because I see your glasses. Are you filming this with your glasses? Is that how that works?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Or I could if I wanted to.

[Saul Marquez]

Are those Google? Those are the Ray Ban. They got two cameras on it. The meta ones, right? They're from Meta.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah.

[Saul Marquez]

What do you use them for?

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah, they're stylish.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Having an assistant. Right. With you, I can just say, hey, Meta, where am I? And it tells me that's where you are and how can I get to point B? And it'll tell me how to get there.

[Saul Marquez]

Do you have a screen that you can see or it's just audible?

[Hassan Benchkron]

The new ones are coming.

[Saul Marquez]

Wow.

[Hassan Benchkron]

But you have to have this light up in order for it to be taking pictures of videos. Oh, I see how, you know somebody's feeling you.

[Saul Marquez]

Ah, understood. That's the indicator.

[Hassan Benchkron]

That is.

[Ed Gaudet]

But we could hack that away too, right?

[Saul Marquez]

Oh, yeah, I'm sure.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I'm sure.

[Ed Gaudet]

Don't try it at home, kids.

[Saul Marquez]

Yeah, well, see, and that's the cool thing about this place, right? We've been chatting about this all day.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yes.

[Saul Marquez]

I'm so done with conferences where you just stand up there and talk about a bunch of nothing.

[Ed Gaudet]

Kill me.

[Saul Marquez]

This has been so refreshing. What have you learned so far? Something that you came in and you're like, wow.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I learned of a few solutions that can be right away implemented. Such as? There was this morning conference talking about falls in the hospital. This is super important. And I already have talked to a vendor who has cameras around that can monitor patients at night, those that are confused or so on, but they can't really do anything if a patient is going to fall, especially in the dark. There was an AI for that.

[Ed Gaudet]

What did they do? Were they predicting movement?

[Hassan Benchkron]

It just moves. Delineates the body of the person as it moves towards a position where it might fall. Gives you a prediction of that. That is amazing.

[Ed Gaudet]

Does it do something like sound an alarm or.

[Hassan Benchkron]

It sends the alarm to the person. But at least it reduces all of the alarm fatigue that we have in the hospital. Because now it's all about a sensor. If a patient gets up. Yeah, but it's already too many alarms. Too many alarms. Too many. Yeah.

[Saul Marquez]

Alarm fatigue is real.

[Hassan Benchkron]

This one has a predictive analytic and it does give you.

[Ed Gaudet]

Interesting.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah, no, I saw it and I took a picture and I posted it immediately.

[Saul Marquez]

Super cool.

[Ed Gaudet]

You think we'll all have robots in our patient rooms?

[Hassan Benchkron]

100.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. So like when I'm rolling around, getting ready to fall, something's going to come over and tap me on the shoulder, right?

[Hassan Benchkron]

It might.

[Ed Gaudet]

Or it might maybe adjust the bed a little bit. Lift the thing. Yeah. The guardrail.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yep.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Hassan Benchkron]

And it might have more empathy.

[Ed Gaudet]

Really?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Oh, yes.

[Saul Marquez]

Like, more than what?

[Ed Gaudet]

Like, will it change my sheet if I wet the bed?

[Hassan Benchkron]

It might just talk to you in a nice.

[Ed Gaudet]

I don't Know where that came from?

[Saul Marquez]

You were thinking about it.

[Ed Gaudet]

I was thinking like a robot. Like what? Well, right. You get accidents. A fall's an accident.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah. There was another session, though, that was amazing this morning. There was this guy who talked about AI versus human in medical education. Medical students split them into two. You do it the traditional way, and you do Morning Report with AI Just pinned them against each other, and both of them learned something, and they were most engaged. I think his name was Hassan something.

[Saul Marquez]

Oh, Is that you, A.I.

[Ed Gaudet]

Ready, Doc?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. I love it.

[Saul Marquez]

That guy's sharp.

[Ed Gaudet]

He's very sharp. How did you get involved in medicine, healthcare?

[Saul Marquez]

That's a good question.

[Ed Gaudet]

What's your origin story?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Originally, I'm from Morocco. Born, raised, educated, and fed and exported. I graduated from there, so I knew I wanted to be a doctor since I was little. I mean, it's cliche. I know. It's true.

[Saul Marquez]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

One of those dens in Tangiers, right, that set you free?

[Hassan Benchkron]

I was born in Tangier.

[Ed Gaudet]

How I know these things, man? I'm on a different.

[Saul Marquez]

You got Tangier vibes.

[Ed Gaudet]

I'm on a different wavelength.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I got Tangier.

[Ed Gaudet]

Did you ever run into, like, Brian Jones from the Rolling Stones there?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Only in an AI dream, that's all.

[Ed Gaudet]

Morocco is a cool place. Yeah. That's like, the epicenter of the world.

[Saul Marquez]

Barcelona is as close as I've gotten.

[Hassan Benchkron]

You got across.

[Saul Marquez]

I know. I was so close.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I'm going there to teach medical students because I'm to Barcelona, like, to Morocco. There's this saying, you first learn, then you earn, and then you return. And I like that, too, Denzel.

[Ed Gaudet]

It's poetic. Too learn. Yeah, we get the right. You're a poet. I like that.

[Saul Marquez]

And you didn't even need chat GPT for that.

[Ed Gaudet]

No, I didn't.

[Hassan Benchkron]

But you know what? I did. I actually posted it in one of my episodes, and guess who liked it? Who? Denzel Washington.

[Saul Marquez]

Come on.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Mic drop.

[Ed Gaudet]

Boom. That's huge.

[Saul Marquez]

Come on.

[Hassan Benchkron]

The Real dense.

[Ed Gaudet]

Whoa.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Don't kill my vibe. I got Tangier vibes.

[Ed Gaudet]

I'm vibing off of your vibes right now.

[Saul Marquez]

That's.

[Ed Gaudet]

I'm feeling a little.

[Hassan Benchkron]

But, yeah, I'm going there to teach medical students where I trained when I was young. And you're going back to return.

[Ed Gaudet]

Like your birthplace.

[Hassan Benchkron]

That's Morocco. That's incredible. I love it. Awesome. I'm excited.

[Ed Gaudet]

You've got to document that. You should bring a crew to document.

[Hassan Benchkron]

You mean you're not on my followers? On my LinkedIn?

[Ed Gaudet]

I'm going to be.

[Saul Marquez]

After this, we got to do.

[Ed Gaudet]

You're my.

[Saul Marquez]

I reached out after we. We booked. I reached out to you. I saw that.

[Hassan Benchkron]

That's.

[Ed Gaudet]

And for listeners. This guy is wearing a puma. Cats.

[Saul Marquez]

This guy's a stud, man. I mean, everything is perfectly.

[Ed Gaudet]

The rings, everything.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Listen, well, watch.

[Saul Marquez]

I want to be like, is that a national.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, look at that. Is that an apple? Watch.

[Hassan Benchkron]

It is an apple.

[Ed Gaudet]

It's an older one, though. Is it older?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Them are fighting words.

[Ed Gaudet]

You're too cool. A little retro, maybe.

[Saul Marquez]

Retro. See? So cool.

[Ed Gaudet]

I'm so unnoticed, I didn't even notice. Like, he's got retro on his wrist, man. All right, so, interesting origin story. You're on a desert island. Because he's cool, and I want to know what music he listens to. Five records. What would you bring?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Well, I'll have to start with some of my country.

[Ed Gaudet]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I'm also a Latin dancer, so some Celia Cruz there.

[Saul Marquez]

Little salsa.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Oh, some of the Beatles.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, what beat? Any particular one or.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Not really.

[Ed Gaudet]

Okay.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I just. Any play them on. There are some days I'm like, today's a Beatles day.

[Ed Gaudet]

I feel.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah, really just a vibe.

[Ed Gaudet]

People used to say whatever music I had was a direct correlation to my mood. Right?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah, Without a shred of doubt. Yeah, absolutely.

[Ed Gaudet]

You like jazz?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Some jazz.

[Saul Marquez]

It was coming.

[Ed Gaudet]

See, we brainwaves, we are vibing together. We're no doubt in the vibe right now.

[Saul Marquez]

No doubt. I just felt the electricity.

[Ed Gaudet]

I feel like Jonah Hill. And who's that other guy? That was an actor with him. What was his name?

[Saul Marquez]

What movie? I don't know.

[Ed Gaudet]

Jonah Hill. Another guy that always.

[Hassan Benchkron]

You mean you're not connected, man? No, man, I got a plug.

[Ed Gaudet]

Seth Grogan.

[Saul Marquez]

Oh, okay.

[Ed Gaudet]

And Jonah Hill. I feel like we're like. I'm like Seth Grogan, I think, or my set.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Jonah Hill we wouldn't have a problem with.

[Ed Gaudet]

No, you're like Matthew McConaughey, though. You're that cool. He's that cool. Yeah, I could definitely see that.

[Hassan Benchkron]

You know what he said that I used to say before? I heard him say, people tell me, who are you competing with? And I say, myself, in 10 years.

[Saul Marquez]

Oh.

[Hassan Benchkron]

And then one day, I heard him say it. I'm like, you're a copycat.

[Ed Gaudet]

You said that and he copied you. Damn.

[Hassan Benchkron]

It makes for some damn story.

[Ed Gaudet]

Where do you live?

[Hassan Benchkron]

San Diego.

[Ed Gaudet]

You do.

[Saul Marquez]

You're in my home. My neighbor. We're in San Diego. Yeah. I'm in Carmel Valley.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Big park.

[Saul Marquez]

Oh, okay.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Nice. Look over the Mission Bay. All right.

[Saul Marquez]

All right, neighbor.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Hey. Hey.

[Ed Gaudet]

Nice.

[Saul Marquez]

Look at that representative.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah, but you seem more like an LA guy. You should be in la.

[Saul Marquez]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

San Diego vibe is not. I mean, you must be so far above the San Diego vibe. San Diego is like old, older, isn't it?

[Saul Marquez]

Yeah, it's more low key like, like, like, like jogging pants vibe though.

[Ed Gaudet]

It's not.

[Hassan Benchkron]

North park vibe is very cool. Okay, that's true.

[Ed Gaudet]

All right.

[Saul Marquez]

That's true. Yeah, I like that area.

[Ed Gaudet]

What are you reading?

[Saul Marquez]

Nice.

[Hassan Benchkron]

What I'm reading now?

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I am reading a book of a patient of mine that has passed since then. She had a TED Talk and she was a lung transplant person, but also an opera singer.

[Saul Marquez]

Oh, wow.

[Ed Gaudet]

She wrote a book.

[Hassan Benchkron]

She learned. She retaught her lungs to sing again.

[Saul Marquez]

Amazing.

[Hassan Benchkron]

And then she had a double lung transplant again. She went back singing again.

[Saul Marquez]

Wow. Talk about resilience and commitment. I got goosebumps. Grit.

[Ed Gaudet]

Like true grit.

[Saul Marquez]

Right.

[Hassan Benchkron]

The book's called the Encore. Listen. Oh, cool, man.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. That is.

[Hassan Benchkron]

She's singing somewhere else now.

[Ed Gaudet]

Right now.

[Saul Marquez]

Amen.

[Ed Gaudet]

Now, did you see her say you did?

[Hassan Benchkron]

I'm on the leadership of the American College of Chest Physicians. We call it Chests. I'm a pulmonologist in critical care.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, I thought we were talking like knights and rooks there for a second. At least they chest.

[Hassan Benchkron]

That could be. It's a very cool organization.

[Ed Gaudet]

Are you a chess player?

[Hassan Benchkron]

I am.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. Me too.

[Hassan Benchkron]

No kidding.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. You play craps?

[Hassan Benchkron]

No, that I don't.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh. Gamble at all?

[Saul Marquez]

No.

[Ed Gaudet]

No.

[Saul Marquez]

Okay.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I like my money.

[Ed Gaudet]

You've never played with us. You'll double your money, you'll eat well, you'll play well, will grow until all hours of the night. 3:00am yeah. Sgt. Peppers.

[Hassan Benchkron]

There you go.

[Saul Marquez]

Can't beat that.

[Ed Gaudet]

No, you can't absolutely go back in time. Did I already ask you this question? 20 year old self. No, you haven't.

[Hassan Benchkron]

This one. You're going to kill it, man.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. That's confidence. I love that. So like, don't sweat the details. You got this. Don't worry about it. You're going to kill it.

[Hassan Benchkron]

That's right.

[Saul Marquez]

It goes well with the. Compete with 10 years. 10 years self.

[Ed Gaudet]

Right.

[Saul Marquez]

Complements it well.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I've always gone different from everybody else. Then eventually I just know why. I don't know why things like I did not know why I was being passionate about AI.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Hassan Benchkron]

And then here we are three years later.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Saul Marquez]

When you're. When you are not the same, you are outstanding.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yes. Exceptional. Right?

[Saul Marquez]

Yes.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I love this.

[Ed Gaudet]

No doubt.

[Saul Marquez]

There's a lot of builders out there that have great ideas. What advice would you give them from this conference? From your experience in building their companies for the future?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Man, this is easy. Just start ready is not a state. It's a decision. You cannot wait to get ready while you're trying and waiting to get ready. Somebody else started messy, and they're getting ready while you're still waiting to get raw.

[Saul Marquez]

I agree. I agree.

[Ed Gaudet]

Calm the crowd down.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Thank you.

[Ed Gaudet]

What's wrong with these?

[Saul Marquez]

Another good line. Another good line.

[Ed Gaudet]

That was a good line, man.

[Saul Marquez]

He's on fire.

[Ed Gaudet]

He's on fire. Yeah. We need a nickname for you. What can we be?

[Saul Marquez]

What do your friends call you? Dr. B.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Everybody's known me Dr. B. That's right. I like Dr. B. Yeah.

[Saul Marquez]

Yeah.

[Ed Gaudet]

To be or not to be Dr. B.

[Saul Marquez]

That is the question, right?

[Hassan Benchkron]

It's always to be.

[Ed Gaudet]

It's always to be.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I would rather have failures than regrets.

[Ed Gaudet]

Amen. 100%.

[Hassan Benchkron]

So about 20 years ago, I was in a car as a passenger, and I woke up and the world was red. And I realized it was my. Pardon me. I was bleeding, and I was literally counting the seconds to die. So everything after that is just borrowed time. And from that point on, no regrets. I don't want to look like I did then. I wanted to dance salsa. Now I do. Wanted to visit Spain, where my ancestors came from. Now I did. It's everything I set out to do. I'm on, like, my third bucket list.

[Saul Marquez]

That's awesome, man.

[Ed Gaudet]

What's the riskiest thing you've ever done?

[Hassan Benchkron]

Throw myself off of an airplane.

[Ed Gaudet]

You did. You're skydiving twice. Of course you are.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Twice.

[Ed Gaudet]

You can't be that cool now. Skydive.

[Saul Marquez]

Yeah, right.

[Ed Gaudet]

What are we doing? What are we doing wrong?

[Saul Marquez]

It's all I did once. I did it once.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Your music is cool.

[Ed Gaudet]

Oh, thank you. Thank you, sir.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Thank you.

[Ed Gaudet]

Thank you.

[Saul Marquez]

Yeah. And back to readiness is not a state. It's a decision. Yeah, that is.

[Ed Gaudet]

That's a killer line.

[Saul Marquez]

You're living your life that way.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I just started playing with any of the tools, any. Everything that I had a fear of, I'm going to go and do it. So if I'm wondering what is coding, I'm going to go learn coding.

[Saul Marquez]

But I don't.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I don't do it just any. I want to be intentional about it, so I actually study it. You know what is so interesting about creators? If you have someone who wants to get into the business of bread, they don't just invest in bread. They go and study where flour is made, what are the types, which soil. So you learn the entire process. So you become the expert.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah, it's all. Get in etymology, man. It's all about the etymology. You understand the origin of things.

[Saul Marquez]

Yeah, definitely is.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Yeah. Because it makes you then belong. When I wanted to start to speak to my clinician friends and start a podcast, I went and studied about podcasts and started my own. Awesome. It's number 18 now in medicine category on Apple.

[Ed Gaudet]

Really?

[Hassan Benchkron]

That's serious. That's. That's huge. And just for the heck of it, number one in Morocco.

[Saul Marquez]

Oh, watch out now.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Number one.

[Ed Gaudet]

I need a country. I need a country. I need to find a country and be number one.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Don't make it a deserted island.

[Ed Gaudet]

How about Capri? I could be number one in Capri, dude.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. Because Capri's beautiful.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Or maybe like, three people are beautiful.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah, they are. They're so beautiful. Like, you walk on that island and you just realize there are more beautiful people.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I gotta take better care of myself.

[Ed Gaudet]

No, you're beautiful. I mean, what are you talking about?

[Saul Marquez]

Thank you.

[Hassan Benchkron]

What do you want?

[Ed Gaudet]

I'm Seth Grogan. £44,000 here. I don't know.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Nah, just 3,900.

[Saul Marquez]

Oh, my.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Listen.

[Ed Gaudet]

God.

[Hassan Benchkron]

When you're watching yourself and you're saying, I don't have much to live, it doesn't matter anymore.

[Saul Marquez]

It doesn't.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Just say to yourself, I should have when I could have. Yeah, that's it.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yep.

[Saul Marquez]

Just do.

[Ed Gaudet]

That's a good way to end this. What do you think?

[Saul Marquez]

It really is.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah. Because I don't think we can say much more. And we're starting to sound like buffoons at this point. And he's just going to completely ride over us.

[Hassan Benchkron]

I already did.

[Saul Marquez]

This has been awesome.

[Ed Gaudet]

Dr. B.

[Saul Marquez]

In the house.

[Ed Gaudet]

Dr. B.

[Saul Marquez]

In the house.

[Ed Gaudet]

Yeah.

[Saul Marquez]

Where.

[Ed Gaudet]

Appreciate you.

[Saul Marquez]

Where can people find. Follow you and keep up with the awesome work that you're up to in AI and the physician world.

[Ed Gaudet]

And how do we get to Morocco together?

[Hassan Benchkron]

You'll find me there in two weeks. Yeah, find me there.

[Ed Gaudet]

Let's go to Morocco.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Thanksgiving in Morocco. Can you imagine that?

[Ed Gaudet]

No, I can't. That.

[Hassan Benchkron]

That would be Magical way of cooking a turkey. You've never had a.

[Saul Marquez]

Come on.

[Ed Gaudet]

How is it different?

[Saul Marquez]

Sign me up.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Not just spices. It is also the love around you.

[Ed Gaudet]

Turkey love.

[Hassan Benchkron]

There you go, man.

[Saul Marquez]

So tell us where to find you.

[Hassan Benchkron]

Medicalaiacademy.com or the AI ready, doctor dot com.

[Ed Gaudet (Host Intro/Outro)]

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