Podcast Summary: Risk Never Sleeps – Episode #180
“Unlocking Human Potential: Resilience, Leadership, and Purpose in the Workplace”
Host: Ed Gaudet
Guest: Raghunath Sapuram (CEO, TLEX Institute)
Date: December 30, 2025
Overview
This episode of Risk Never Sleeps dives into the human side of high-pressure environments, focusing on how resilience, purpose, and leadership are essential for protecting patient safety and driving performance in healthcare and beyond. Ed Gaudet welcomes Raghunath Sapuram, CEO of the TLEX Institute, to discuss unlocking human potential — specifically strategies for managing stress, building collaborative teams, and thriving amid rapid change like the rise of AI.
Key Topics and Insights
1. Mission and Impact of TLEX (Transformational Leadership for Excellence)
[01:45-02:51]
- TLEX’s mission: “Unlocking human potential” through corporate resilience and leadership training.
- Programs address stress, burnout, change management, and anxiety, with a current focus on navigating the pace of AI adoption.
- Raghunath introduces the idea of “centered leadership” and creating “Avengers teams”—highly collaborative cross-functional groups prepared to face rapid technological change.
- Programs serve executives, mid-level managers, and broader teams, focusing on building “human capital.”
2. Outcomes and Methods
[03:02-05:42]
- TLEX tracks outcomes in three dimensions: wellbeing (reducing anxiety and stress), employee satisfaction/loyalty, and the development of new skills.
- Surveys and self-reported feedback indicate significant improvements in calmness and focus.
- Techniques include accessible breath work and meditation, adapted for the corporate environment and busy professionals:
- “What we do is we bring those aspects of breath work, meditation into the program in such a way that becomes relevant in the corporate context, that it’s usable... in small intervals.” – Raghunath Sapuram [04:12]
- Emphasis on “micro techniques” for frequent, real-world use.
3. Productivity, Performance, and Team Cohesion
[04:56-05:42]
- Calmer and more centered people are more productive and adaptable.
- Focus on both “horizontal programming” (cross-functional team-building for speed and cohesion) and “vertical programming” (deepening team bonds for high performance).
- Trust and belonging are central to TLEX’s approach.
4. Personal Leadership Journey and Meditation Practice
[06:11-06:53, 13:48-14:36]
- Raghunath has practiced meditation for over 30 years; he now meditates daily, which he credits for expanding his personal and professional capabilities, including shifting careers from technologist to leadership coach.
- Recommends starting mindfulness practices earlier in life:
- “I would say starting it early would have given me a lot more years in terms of not being held back by shyness, the constraints that we put on our own minds.” – Raghunath Sapuram [14:19]
5. Meditation Methodology: SKY Breath
[06:58-08:12]
- TLEX’s main tool is “SKY Breath” meditation—a globally recognized technique practiced by over 300 million people.
- Offerings include brief, accessible programs as well as a “SKY Immersion” (3.5 hours) that delivers lasting physiological benefits:
- “Sky breath has been shown to bring down blood pressure and serum cortisol levels, like the stress hormone, comes down by more than 50%.” – Raghunath Sapuram [08:12]
6. Human-Centered Leadership Through Technological Revolution
[08:36-10:16]
- Raghunath’s background: Serial entrepreneur with three companies, including Gravitant (acquired by IBM) and Extraprise (acquired by Commerce One).
- Observes that across all technological revolutions, “it’s the people who make a difference.”
- On AI: Focus should be on enabling and empowering people, not just replacing them. Human purpose must drive the adoption of AI.
- “Aligning it with human purpose rather than letting AI shape human beings.” – Raghunath Sapuram [10:16]
7. Resilience and Reinvention During Adversity
[10:57-12:13]
- As CEO/CTO, Raghunath led his team through financial crisis and transformation, prioritizing retention and cohesion above all:
- “How do you focus on your team, the core assets that you have?” – Raghunath Sapuram [11:32]
- Attributes his company’s survival and eventual exit to loyalty, trust, courage, clarity, creativity, and continuous reinvention—the “Five C’s.”
8. Culture, Authenticity, and Purpose
[12:13-13:14]
- Post-acquisition, maintaining intentional culture—rooted in awareness—was possible even within a large, process-driven organization.
- “You have to be authentic. You can’t be insincere and get away with that. People see through that.” – Raghunath Sapuram [12:34]
9. Advice to Younger Self
[13:48-14:36]
- Encourages younger professionals to adopt meditation and mindfulness early to overcome self-imposed barriers.
10. Taking Risks and Managing Fear
[14:38-15:44]
- Riskiest act: Speaking to 5,000 people. Used meditation as secret to manage nerves and perform effectively.
- “I always meditate before I go into any risk kind of thing.” – Raghunath Sapuram [15:29]
11. Music, Family, and Personal Flow
[16:09-16:53]
- Music is integral to Raghunath’s family life, with one son a classical musician and the other a psychologist.
- “I call it the inner peace and the outer dynamism… Being centered and calm, but being active and responsible and doing things that make a difference purposefully.” – Raghunath Sapuram [17:02]
Notable Quotes
- On human potential:
“At a mission level, what we are doing is unlocking human potential… handling the human side of building what in the corporate world is called human capital.” – Raghunath Sapuram [01:45] - On practical meditation:
“Once I saw that I was expanding my capabilities and I was able to take on more responsibilities… I started going deeper into it.” – Raghunath Sapuram [06:38] - On leadership and culture:
“When we got acquired by IBM, we were fearful that we will lose that culture. And instead what I found was… it is possible to infuse that culture, possible to bring that in. But you have to intentionally and with awareness, go about the problem.” – Raghunath Sapuram [12:37] - On stress and leadership:
“There is too many misconceptions that meditation, all these things are, you know, once you retire… but I would say like when you’re very busy is when you need it the most.” – Raghunath Sapuram [18:52]
Memorable Moments
- Hosts' immediate reaction to Raghunath’s presence:
“You have such a calming effect. …I feel like you brought my blood pressure down like 20, 30 points. Seriously.” – Ed Gaudet [05:42] - On facing risk:
“The riskiest thing is stepping in front of 5,000 people and giving a speech… it was like a wall that I had to break.” – Raghunath Sapuram [14:42/15:23] - On meditation as a pre-performance tool:
“I pulled over, did my meditation for 20 minutes. Then went in… and I think I did fairly well…” – Raghunath Sapuram [15:44] - Hosts:
- “If you want to up the game of your people, your leadership… you need to check this company out.” – Ed Gaudet [17:44]
Resources, Contacts, and Follow-Up
[17:19-19:29]
- TLEX Website: tlexmindmatters.com
- Direct Contact: Raghu at ra@tlexinstitute.com
- App: TLX Flow (offered as post-program support)
- SKY Breath meditation information available via books, YouTube, and partner organizations (including programs for healthcare workers and even prison inmates).
Closing Thought
“Inner peace and outer dynamism: There are too many misconceptions that meditation and all these things are for when you retire, or when you have time in your life. But I would say—when you’re very busy is when you need it the most. Whether you come to TLEX or not, just experiment, do some breath work… SKY Breath meditation.”
— Raghunath Sapuram [18:52]
Listeners interested in practical ways to build resilience for themselves and their organizations—and boost patient safety—will find this episode a powerful resource for approaching leadership (and life) with greater calm, clarity, and purpose.
