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RiskReversal Pod
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Welcome to the RiskReversal Pod, where Dan Nathan and Guy Adami are joined by the most brilliant minds in markets and tech.
We break down the most important market moving headlines to help listeners make better informed investing decisions.
Our goal is to deconstruct Wall Street speak and offer contrarian insights and strategies that help investors navigate increasingly volatile markets.
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A VC's Playbook For Investing in the AI Bubble with Jeff Richards
1w ago01:00:48Tap to summarizeDan Nathan welcomes Notable Capital partner Jeff Richards to discuss how public-market concentration and multiple expansion in mega-cap tech are influencing private-market valuations. Richards explains Notable’s evolution from GGV Capital and its investments across AI and software, then argues that AI adoption is accelerating rapidly, citing publicly reported Anthropic run-rate growth and broad “token path” benefits for infrastructure and select software. He highlights cybersecurity as a key beneficiary as agents increase enterprise risk and could drive continued growth for leaders like CrowdStrike and Palo Alto, while noting stretched valuations and advising patience for pullbacks. The conversation covers Google’s equity raise and Berkshire’s participation, Microsoft’s questions beyond Azure, and why Richards recently bought Meta. They address enterprise “sticker shock” for AI usage, the shift to measuring output, SaaS durability vs. internal builds at startups, talent-driven M&A, rising VC interest in robotics, and potential IPO demand for SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI amid signs of frothy market behavior. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
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The Tokenmaxxing Party Is Over and No One Wants to Admit It
1w ago00:37:19Tap to summarizeDan Nathan and Guy Adami open with promotion of their new interview series Standing Table (episodes with Anthony Scaramucci, Rick Heitzmann, and SoFi’s Liz Thomas) and note a recent RiskReversal conversation with Dan Niles about investing in a market bubble. They discuss eased geopolitical rhetoric heading into Memorial Day, crude around $88, lower yields, and the S&P 500 at all-time highs, while warning that valuation measures (Buffett indicator, CAPE) and consumer stress signals (high auto payments, elevated gas/insurance costs, rising credit card delinquencies) are flashing red. They review sharp pullbacks in Costco and Walmart as valuation-driven despite decent quarters, then turn to a rebound and potential rotation into software (IGV) and cybersecurity. They highlight rising AI token consumption pricing, “token maxing,” and reports that Amazon, Microsoft, and Uber are pulling back after blowing through AI budgets, framing it as an IPO-era monetization issue. They close on Dell’s blowout AI server results and parabolic stock move, cautioning about margins, valuation, and broader crash risk, referencing Andrew Ross Sorkin’s comments on the inevitability of future market crashes. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
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Dan Niles: We're 100% in an AI Bubble... Don't Go Broke Trying to Call the Pop
2w ago00:55:39Tap to summarizeDan Nathan hosts Dan Niles of Niles Investment Management on the Risk Reversal podcast to discuss macro conditions, AI-driven market leadership, and lessons from prior tech cycles. Niles compares the current AI build-out to 1997–1998’s internet infrastructure boom, arguing recent macro scares (tariffs, Iran/oil) created buying opportunities and that a bubble can persist, with further gains likely before a potential 30–50% drawdown next year. He cites a January 30 “agentic AI” step-change increasing token/compute demand, supporting strong CapEx and earnings growth, and notes Nvidia’s growth versus valuation relative to past leaders like Cisco. They debate rising yields, inflation measures, and expectations for a rate-cutting Fed chair (Kevin Warsh). The conversation covers Intel’s potential benefit from agentic shifts, corporate AI cost pressures, likely disruption to software/IT services and knowledge work, Micron’s HBM-driven surge and cyclicality risks, and how major IPOs like SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic could reshape flows and create new short opportunities. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
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The Perpetual Future Is Here with David Schamis & Jeroen Nieuwkoop of Hyperliquid Strategies
2w ago00:45:53Tap to summarizeDan Nathan hosts David Schamis (CEO, Hyperliquid Strategies) and Jeroen Nieuwkoop (COO, Hyperliquid Strategies) to explain Hyperliquid, a three-and-a-half-year-old L1 blockchain built for high-throughput exchange activity and best known for perpetual futures trading. They discuss how Hyperliquid aims to be an “AWS of on-chain trading,” enabling permissionless exchanges like Trade XYZ to list perps on assets such as major U.S. equities, gold, silver, and oil, and why decentralized custody, speed, and UI/UX differentiate it from prior DEXs. They outline HYPE tokenomics, including using ~99% of protocol fees for token buybacks and burns, and define perp pricing via funding rates. The conversation covers U.S. regulatory constraints, Hyperliquid Strategies’ Nasdaq-listed DAT (PURR) formed via reverse merger to provide U.S. access to HYPE exposure, and emerging use cases like pre-IPO perps (e.g., SpaceX) for 24/7 price discovery. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
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Peter Boockvar Gives Us His "Boock Report" On The Markets
2w ago00:38:19Tap to summarizeClick the link http://kalshi.com/r/MOSES or download the Kalshi App and use code MOSES to sign up and trade today! Checkout the Boock Report: https://boockreport.com On this episode of On the Tape, host Danny Moses sits down with returning guest Peter Boockvar — independent economist, market strategist, and CIO at OnePoint BFG Wealth Partners — for a wide-ranging conversation on the forces shaping today's markets. Peter and Danny dig into why yields finally started mattering to equity investors, the self-fulfilling momentum behind the AI trade, and China's rapid rise as a formidable competitor in EVs, robotics, semiconductors, and AI — and what that means for U.S. tech dominance. They also tackle the housing affordability crisis, the Fed's rate path, rising unemployment risk, and whether the U.S. consumer can hold up. Plus, Danny runs Peter through a series of event contract odds — from Fed rate cuts to S&P price targets — for a fast-paced gut-check on where markets are headed. --ABOUT THE SHOWFor decades, Danny has seen it all on Wall Street and has built his reputation on integrity, curiosity and skepticism that he will bring with him each week. Having traded through the Great Financial Crisis and being featured in "The Big Short" is only part of the experiences Danny wants to share with the listener. This weekly podcast cuts through market noise, offering entertaining and informative discussions with expert guests giving their views of the financial world and the human side of it. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just getting started, On The Tape provides something for all listeners.Follow Danny on X: @dmoses34The financial opinions expressed are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on this content.Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in 'On The Tape' carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.
Transcribe →Liz Thomas at Harry's | Standing Table #3
2w ago00:24:39Tap to summarizeToday, we’re back on Wall Street and dining at Harry’s, a trusted Wall Street institution for over 50 years. Joining us is Liz Thomas, Chief Market Strategist at SoFi. Her origin story starts in Wisconsin, but she’s made a name for herself in New York as a trusted market and investment guru. Prior to joining SoFi, Liz was the Director of Market Strategy at BNY Mellon, a Portfolio Analyst at Baird, and a Research Analyst at BMO Global Asset Management. Timecodes 00:00 — “Edgy Broads” 00:21 — Welcome to Standing Table at Harry’s on Wall Street 01:24 — Meet SoFi’s Head of Investment Strategy, Liz Thomas 02:24 — From Wisconsin to Wall Street: Liz’s Journey Begins 04:54 — The Mentor Who Changed Liz’s Career Path 06:14 — Guy & Dan Tell the Early Fast Money Origin Story 09:35 — Liz Opens Up About Leaving Everything Behind for NYC 12:31 — Becoming a CNBC Personality & Inspiring Young Women 16:18 — Why Liz Took the Leap from BNY Mellon to SoFi 20:49 — Marriage, Motherhood & Being the Breadwinner 22:21 — Liz’s Mission Supporting Women Through Grace Outreach 23:37 — Liz’s Career Advice: Don’t Wait to Be Noticed Standing Table is made possible through our continued partnership with Apex Fintech Solutions. Apex Fintech Solutions provides the tools and services that enable hundreds of clients to launch, scale, and support digital investing for tens of millions of end investors. The company provides essential infrastructure and a comprehensive ecosystem of cloud-based products to enable and streamline trading, wealth management, cost basis, tax reporting, and, through its subsidiary Apex Clearing™, custody and clearing. For more information, visit the Apex Fintech Solutions website: https://apexfintechsolutions.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/apex-fintech/ —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Transcribe →Microsoft Can't Afford Its Own AI. What Does That Tell Us? + Easterly's Darrell Crate on Structural Volatility
2w ago00:49:35Tap to summarizeGuy Adami and Dan Nathan discuss an S&P 500 pressing all-time highs amid sticky inflation, a 10-year yield around the mid-4% range, and low near-term volatility despite an upcoming Fed meeting and PCE data. They review mixed retail signals (strength at higher-end brands versus Walmart’s margin pressure and a strained lower-end consumer), debate the market’s resilience, and focus on AI: Nvidia’s explosive growth and concerns that soaring usage-based AI costs could challenge the “sanctity” of big-tech CapEx, alongside critiques of Meta layoffs and skepticism about SaaS firms overpromising AI. Guy then interviews Darrell Crate of Easterly, who outlines structural volatility, demographic-driven retirement needs, and hedged equity demand, argues small caps benefit from innovation, and describes Easterly Government Properties as a mission-critical government-lease REIT with an 8% dividend, no canceled leases, a $1.5B pipeline, and potential tailwinds from government efficiency initiatives and GSA changes. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
Transcribe →Wall Street Bull Brian Belski Sees Correction Before S&P Run Into the 8,000s
3w ago00:54:11Tap to summarizeBrian Belski joins Dan Nathan to break down why he still sees the S&P 500 moving higher — but warns a correction may come first. Belski explains why this is now an earnings-driven market, why the Mag 7 may begin to hand leadership to the other 493 stocks, and what could trigger the next pullback. He also shares his views on AI stocks, SpaceX/OpenAI IPOs, financials, industrials, housing, rates, and why he believes the market could still end the year with “an 8 handle.” Topics include:• Why Brian Belski expects a correction before another rally• The case for S&P 8,000 (and why it won’t be a straight line)• AI enthusiasm, IPO mania & whether we’re in a bubble• Why he’s bullish on financials, industrials & select cyclicals• Treasury yields, housing, Walmart, Deere & the consumer outlook• What could actually trigger the next bear market Timecodes 00:00 Intro + Brian Belski Returns02:00 Inside Belski’s New ETF (HIS) & Stock-Picking Strategy05:45 How Belski Nailed the S&P 7,000 Call08:30 Why 2026 Is an “Earnings-Driven” Market09:45 Why Belski Expects a Market Correction10:45 Mag 7 vs. The Other 493 Stocks14:00 Walmart Warning, Consumer Trends & Retail Risks17:15 Deere, Industrials & Why AI Could Benefit Old Economy Stocks20:00 Why Belski Still Likes Financials Despite Weak Performance21:45 Airlines, FedEx & The Transport Trade24:00 Housing, Homebuilders & What Happens If Rates Fall26:45 Will Treasury Yields Finally Move Lower?31:00 SpaceX, OpenAI & Anthropic IPO Risks33:00 Could AI IPOs Trigger a Market Shake-Up?39:00 The AI Trade: Bubble, Boom or Just Getting Started?44:00 What Wall Street Is Missing in Software & AI45:45 Timing the Next Market Correction48:00 What Could Actually Cause a Bear Market?49:45 Belski’s S&P Outlook: Why He Sees an “8 Handle” This episode is sponsored by Fidelity Investments and the all-new Fidelity Trader+ platform. Try Fidelity’s most powerful trading experience yet: www.Fidelity.com/TraderPlus Fidelity Investments and Risk Reversal are not affiliated. Views, opinions, products, services, and strategies discussed are not endorsed or promoted by Fidelity Investments. Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC, Member NYSE, SIPC. Xxx —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
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The Future of AI: Agents, Defense, Space & Trillion-Dollar Startups with Shahin Farshchi & Ann Bordetsky
3w ago01:10:26Tap to summarizeDan Nathan sits down with Lux Capital partner Shahin Farshchi and AI investor Ann Bordetsky from the RBC Private Tech Conference to explore what comes after ChatGPT — and where the next wave of AI is headed. From defense, robotics, semiconductors, and space infrastructure to AI agents, enterprise software, and the future of work, these conversations break down the technologies, companies, and trends shaping the next decade. They also discuss trillion-dollar valuations, venture capital, hyperscalers, and what separates breakout AI winners from the rest. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @riskreversalmediaTwitter: @RiskReversalLinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
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Rick Heitzmann at Manhatta | Standing Table #2
3w ago00:21:06Tap to summarizeToday we're doing lunch at Manhatta, towering 60 stories above the financial district. Joining us is Rick Heitzmann, co-founder and partner at one of New York's most influential early stage venture firms, First Mark Capital. Rick has been early to some of the most category defining companies of the last decade, backing names like Pinterest, Airbnb, and DraftKings. That foresight has landed him on the Forbes Midas list, not once, not twice, but five times. And if that wasn't enough, he's living the dream of every New York sports fan, joining the ownership group of the New York Yankees. Timecodes: 00:00 – Cold open: The Vilification of AI 01:08 – Meet Rick Heitzmann 03:18 - Philly Sports Fan Turned Yankees Owner 05:02 - How Rick Got Into Yankees Ownership 06:00 - Spotting Trends Early: DraftKings, Airbnb & Pinterest 07:50 - Sports Betting, Prediction Markets & Integrity in Sports 09:40 - Danny Meyer, Hospitality & NYC Restaurant Culture 11:27 - Why the Restaurant Business Is So Tough Right Now 12:46 - AI, Digital Health & The Future of Healthcare 15:45 - The Explosion of Women’s Sports & Sports Merch Culture 18:02 - The Great Jersey Debate: Should Adults Wear Them? — FOLLOW US Instagram: riskreversalmedia Twitter: https://x.com/riskreversal LinkedIn: riskreversalmedia #investing #stocks #stockmarket #ApexFintechSolutions Standing Table is made possible through our continued partnership with Apex Fintech Solutions. Apex Fintech Solutions provides the tools and services that enable hundreds of clients to launch, scale, and support digital investing for tens of millions of end investors. The company provides essential infrastructure and a comprehensive ecosystem of cloud-based products to enable and streamline trading, wealth management, cost basis, tax reporting, and, through its subsidiary Apex Clearing™, custody and clearing. For more information, visit the Apex Fintech Solutions website: https://apexfintechsolutions.com/ LinkedIn: apex-fintech SUBSCRIBE: RiskReversal Pod for more from Guy and Dan: https://apple.co/3RzvgpD RiskReversal Media channel for more episodes and content: / @riskreversalmedia The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal. Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose. Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.
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