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A (0:00)
Foreign,
B (0:04)
this is Tom Uren. I'm here with another between two nerds discussion with the Gruk. G', day Grok, how are you?
A (0:09)
G', day, Tom. Fine, and yourself?
B (0:10)
I'm very well. This week's edition is brought to you by Authentic, the open source identity provider. Find them@goauthentic IO and that's authentic with a K. So Gruk, the last couple of weeks they've been, I guess, pretty big pieces of news related to iOS exploits that have been found in the wild, particularly by Google. So a couple of weeks ago there was the Karuna exploits.
A (0:38)
You go Australia,
B (0:42)
they appear to have been leaked from defense contractor with strong Australian links, I've got to say. And that was like top notch exploit engineering and a very capable set of truly world class.
A (0:58)
Yeah, yeah.
B (0:59)
And then just this week Google has also reported on something called Dark Sword, which is more limited in the number of versions, the versions of iOS that it could exploit.
A (1:12)
It's overall much poorer quality compared to a real authentic Australian made tool chain, you know, so don't settle for knockoffs, you know, you don't know what you're getting
B (1:28)
by Australian have the Made in Australia sticker on it. And so the My first thought is, does this tell us anything? Does it actually mean that iOS security is terrible and has all of a sudden sudden actually gotten gone backwards, that we've got these kits that are right.
A (1:48)
Is this some sort of like watershed event where now it's like the dam has broken? All of the known bad stuff about iOS is out in the open and we've been kept in the dark about the vulnerabilities that we're carrying around and now it's all coming out.
B (2:05)
Yep. Open season on Apple devices.
A (2:08)
Yeah, no, not at all. I think just if you look at the Karuna stuff, like the amount of engineering. So there's a podcast that came out on Risky Business that is like a 90 minute deep dive into the engineering. Yeah. And it's some truly amazing stuff. Like you listen to that, you don't go like, oh, I guess everyone's going to be doing this now.
