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The Intersection of Law, Tech, Entrepreneurship, and Storytelling.
Rule of Law is a podcast by lawyers, for lawyers. In each episode, we sit down with an attorney or legal professional to talk about relevant current events, practical technology for lawyers, career-defining stories, and the business of running a law practice.
Our guests range from large firm litigators to boutique practitioners to legal tech CEOs - all sharing stories and wisdom for listeners in the legal profession. Our goal in every podcast is to provide listeners with an engaging, unscripted experience that is insightful, educational, and yes, even fun.

In this episode, Phoebe Morris joins us to discuss the evolution of legal services in the age of the creative economy. Phoebe shares how she’s moved beyond traditional hourly billing to offer creators, startups, and small businesses a more modern, accessible approach to legal services. We dive into what alternative legal services look like for startups and creators, how alternative fee structures can create better outcomes for both lawyers and clients, and what the future of legal services might look like.Subscribe to the Rule of Law PodcastApple • Spotify • Amazon Music

In this episode, we sat down with RJon Robins, founder of How to Manage a Small Law Firm, to break down what it really takes to build a successful law practice. Spoiler alert! It is NOT giving up your life. We explore how to define success beyond revenue, the difference between working in your business versus on it, and why that shift is critical for long-term growth. This episode is packed with practical insights for attorneys looking to run a more strategic, scalable firm.Download resources and join the waiting listBookSubscribe to the Rule of Law PodcastApple • Spotify • Amazon Music

In this episode, we sit down with a leading voice in AI and legal tech - Colin Levy. We explore what lawyers should really be asking about artificial intelligence, and the mindset shift law firms need to make - from updating outdated workflows to rethinking how legal work is done. We also discuss why so many tech initiatives fail and how the next generation of lawyers is approaching AI.Subscribe to the Rule of Law PodcastApple • Spotify • Amazon Music

In this episode, we dig into how the business of law is changing as outside investment, alternative legal service providers, and management services organizations become a bigger part of the conversation. We unpack the recent headlines around non-lawyer ownership and look ahead at what all of this means for the future of law firm structures.Subscribe to the Rule of Law PodcastApple • Spotify • Amazon Music

In this episode, we sit down with Shaun Jardine, legal pricing expert and founder of LegalGigz, a new platform designed to help lawyers easily discover and keep track of business of law legal conferences, events, and the growing ecosystem of adjacent gatherings that make these trips so valuable. Shaun shares why conferences remain one of the most powerful tools for career growth, business development, and staying ahead of industry change. Subscribe to the Rule of Law PodcastApple • Spotify • Amazon Music

In today’s episode, we sit down with David Wakeling, Partner and Global Head of Markets Innovation Group at A&O Shearman, for an inside look at how one of the world’s most forward-thinking law firms is shaping the future of legal practice.We explore how A&O Shearman evaluates and implements AI, what distinguishes real legal-tech ROI from “innovation theater,” and why many firms struggle to turn experimentation into meaningful operational change. David also shares practical insights on how to build a culture of innovation and his thoughts on the true capabilities of today’s AI systems.Subscribe to the Rule of Law PodcastApple • Spotify • Amazon Music

In this episode, we sit down with Kelley Brubaker, a CPA who specializes in working with law firms to uncover the financial blind spots that hold firms back. From hidden profit leaks and overlooked expenses to common accounting mistakes, we dive deep into how firms can rethink their approach to money management.Subscribe to the Rule of Law PodcastApple • Spotify • Amazon Music

In this episode, we dive into one of the fastest-evolving areas of modern litigation: eDiscovery. Kelly Twigger walks us through why every attorney, regardless of practice area, needs to understand how to manage electronically stored information (ESI) and why the days of leaving it “to the tech team” are over.Subscribe to the Rule of Law PodcastApple • Spotify • Amazon Music

In this episode, we sit down with Sean Olson, Founder of Olson Personal Injury Lawyers, to explore the real journey of starting and scaling a law firm from the ground up. Sean shares hard-earned insights on managing people, creating a positive work culture, and leveraging authentic customer service as a competitive differentiator. Subscribe to the Rule of Law PodcastApple • Spotify • Amazon Music

Are you really using LinkedIn to its fullest potential? In this episode, we sit down with Matthew Hunt, founder of Demandii, and dive into strategies for building a strong personal brand, creating content that resonates with your ideal clients, and turning connections into real opportunities. If you’ve ever wondered how to stop “posting and hoping” and start using LinkedIn with intention, this conversation is for you.Subscribe to the Rule of Law PodcastApple • Spotify • Amazon Music