Biden’s Most Outrageous Pardons

Summary

Podcast Summary: Ruthless Podcast – "Biden’s Most Outrageous Pardons"

Episode Information:

• Title: Biden’s Most Outrageous Pardons
• Release Date: December 19, 2024
• Hosts: Josh Holmes, Comfortably Smug, Michael Duncan, and John Ashbrook
• Description: The Ruthless Podcast brings next-generation conservative talk to new heights, offering incisive and often humorous analyses of current events without holding back.

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1. Overview

In this episode, the hosts delve into President Joe Biden's extensive use of pardons and commutations, particularly focusing on the controversial clemency actions that have sparked outrage among conservative circles. Beyond the main topic, the podcast features light-hearted banter about fantasy football, a listener question regarding drones, and an engaging game segment, all while maintaining a dynamic and entertaining flow.

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2. Biden’s Pardons and Commutations

Michael Duncan initiates the discussion at 00:00, criticizing Biden's administration for issuing approximately 1,500 commutations and pardons. He argues that these actions are a "Trojan horse" designed to release some of the most problematic individuals from prison under the guise of addressing minor offenses related to COVID protocols.

Michael Duncan [00:00]: "Biden's letting them out. I mean, it's outrageous."

Josh Holmes concurs, emphasizing the need to scrutinize future implications as the administration continues its clemency spree.

Josh Holmes [06:40]: "President Biden made history last week when he commuted the sentences of nearly 1500 prisoners... It’s a big number."

The hosts compare Biden’s actions to those of previous presidents, highlighting that even under Barack Obama, the clemency count (1,927 individuals) was surpassed by Biden in his first term. Lee Smith and Comfortably Smug echo these sentiments, questioning the rationale behind releasing individuals involved in significant scandals, including Rita Crundwell’s $54 million embezzlement from Dixon, Illinois.

Lee Smith [10:25]: "That's roughly $180,000 a month."

They further discuss the moral and societal repercussions of these pardons, emphasizing the potential dangers of releasing corrupt individuals who have caused significant harm.

Michael Duncan [12:35]: "They abused the public trust, taken money, sent kids to prison who didn't deserve it... Biden's letting them out."

3. Fantasy Football Banter

Shifting gears, the hosts engage in a spirited discussion about their fantasy football leagues. Michael Duncan recounts his team's strong performance during the regular season but laments early playoff exits, a recurring frustration shared by many fantasy players.

Michael Duncan [02:25]: "I win the regular Season and I have the best team I got the regular season... But I lose in the first round."

Josh Holmes and Lee Smith join in, celebrating their playoff statuses and poking fun at Duncan's perennial misfortunes. This segment, filled with humor and camaraderie, provides a lighter counterbalance to the intense political discourse.

Lee Smith [02:30]: "I think it's more important to focus on fantasy football and Duncan's team's utter failure."

4. Listener Question: Drones and Media Distraction

At 23:54, the podcast transitions to address a listener's question about drones, speculating whether the increased focus on drone-related news is a deliberate distraction from more pressing issues.

Mark Wood's comment suggests that the media is amplifying the drone narrative to divert attention:

Mark Wood [23:54]: "The drone issue is to distract from something else that is going on... Proof of this is how much coverage the media is giving to it."

Michael Duncan builds on this idea, linking it to Biden's pardons and questioning the administration's priorities.

Michael Duncan [24:19]: "They're trying to bury all of the egregious cases with the number."

The hosts collectively agree, proposing that major issues like mass pardons are being overshadowed by less critical topics.

5. American Bridge and Democratic Strategy

Furthering the political analysis, the hosts critique the Democratic group American Bridge's plans to convene wealthy donors in Palm Beach, Florida, to strategize for upcoming elections. They question the effectiveness and sincerity of such gatherings, mocking the inclusion of conservative-turned-Democrat figures like Jennifer Rubin.

Michael Duncan [30:14]: "They are the largest effective ground game operation in the country to defend and advance the conservative movement."

Josh Holmes [32:58]: "Best of the business... This is a good game."

The discussion highlights a perceived disconnect between Democratic strategists and the broader voter base, suggesting internal fractures and ineffective approaches to rebuilding the party's influence.

6. Game Segment: King of the Hill

In an entertaining twist, the hosts introduce a game segment titled "King of the Hill." Characters like Jennifer Rubin and Ron Filipowski engage in a mock courtroom battle, critiquing political maneuvers and media narratives. This segment showcases the hosts' creativity and camaraderie, blending humor with sharp political commentary.

Lee Smith [42:18]: "I've actually had kind of like a long-running beef with John Harwood..."

Josh Holmes [41:31]: "John Harwood is a generally very amiable human being, easily gets along with everybody. I've never heard him more angry than he was."

7. Final Thoughts and Engagement

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts revisit the main topic of Biden's pardons, reiterating their concerns and encouraging listener participation through a "Price is Right"-style game. They invite listeners to guess the total number of pardons Biden will issue before the end of his term, offering exclusive merchandise as a prize.

Josh Holmes [65:03]: "We're Price is Right rules closest without going over. So until next time, Minions, keep the faith, hold the line and own the libs. We'll see you on Tuesday. Stay ruthless."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Michael Duncan [00:00]: "Biden's letting them out. I mean, it's outrageous."
• Josh Holmes [06:40]: "President Biden made history last week when he commuted the sentences of nearly 1500 prisoners..."
• Lee Smith [10:25]: "That's roughly $180,000 a month."
• Mark Wood [23:54]: "The drone issue is to distract from something else that is going on..."
• Michael Duncan [24:19]: "They're trying to bury all of the egregious cases with the number."
• Josh Holmes [32:58]: "Best of the business... This is a good game."

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Conclusion

This episode of the Ruthless Podcast offers a comprehensive and unfiltered exploration of President Biden's pardoning practices, dissecting the implications and comparing them to historical precedents. Interwoven with lively discussions on fantasy football and engaging listener interactions, the hosts deliver a balanced mix of serious political analysis and entertaining dialogue. For listeners seeking candid conservative perspectives on current events, this episode provides valuable insights wrapped in the show's signature humor and dynamism.

Transcript

[Michael Duncan]

The way that Biden allies and the administration are selling all of this, this 1500 commutations and pardons or whatever, is that, you know, these were people who were sent to home confinement during COVID protocol. So, you know, it's people who are getting out of prison in a few years or had committed lesser offenses. But really that's just a Trojan horse to let out some of the worst people who I think really embody the entire Biden era of the White House, which is a cash and carry government where they've abused the public trust, taken money, sent kids to prison who didn't deserve it, who killed themselves, and Biden's letting them out. I mean, it's outrageous.

[Josh Holmes]

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[Josh Holmes]

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[John Ashbrook]

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[Comfortably Smug]

Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please.

[Michael Duncan]

Just a catching strays over here.

[Josh Holmes]

You're in for a hell of a show.

[Lee Smith]

Keep the faith, hold the line and own the libs.

[Comfortably Smug]

It's time for our main event.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, let's have a Thursday here in the ruthless variety program. I'm Josh Holmes along with comfortably smug Michael Duncan. John Ashbrook, left to right across your radio dial. Fellas, I don't know if it's occurred to you before we get into like the meat of the program, as Lee likes. I mean, that's what Wolf's thing is. It's like the meat up front loves it, can't get enough of it. But before we get into that, has it occurred to you guys that starting Friday, there's like a thousand hours of football in front of us? Yeah, like literally not a day that you can see on the horizon that doesn't include epic football.

[Comfortably Smug]

The 12 team playoff in college football is the greatest gift in America. I mean, I really can't wait. I know there's a lot of drama about who's in, who's out. Alabama didn't make it this year, but maybe next year they win more games.

[Lee Smith]

I think it's more important to focus on fantasy football and Duncan's team's utter failure.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, I didn't know you were going to bring that up.

[Lee Smith]

How could I not? That was surprising.

[Michael Duncan]

What do you want to talk about? It happens every year.

[Josh Holmes]

I feel so I win.

[Michael Duncan]

I win the regular Season and I have the best team I got the regular season.

[Josh Holmes]

I sort of feel badly and then.

[Michael Duncan]

I lose in the first round. You don't give a or feel badly.

[Lee Smith]

I feel great. Me and Holmes in the playoffs. Cool as always.

[Michael Duncan]

Cool. You guys deserve it. Your really good.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, it's an annual tradition. At some level it is, right. You know, we go, we face off, we try to get a championship somewhere between the two of us.

[Lee Smith]

I mean, winners win.

[Michael Duncan]

Do you guys want. You guys want to take a break and go kiss in the hallway?

[Josh Holmes]

This is probably the only way you could have dug out of that.

[Michael Duncan]

That's good.

[Josh Holmes]

That's good.

[Michael Duncan]

Our fantasy fo.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, now it's a problem. If it went the other way last week season.

[Lee Smith]

He was like, yeah, my team's doing great.

[Josh Holmes]

He's like, oh, dude, I can't wait.

[Michael Duncan]

That's not that, that is absolutely a lie. That's not what I said. This happens every year. I have the first. I have the first round seed and then I lose in the playoff. Literally said that. That's always what.

[Comfortably Smug]

Everybody out there who plays fantasy football can relate to this because Duncan's team is the team that had the most points scored in the entire year and the playoffs. He goes out.

[Lee Smith]

Mine was.

[Comfortably Smug]

Oh, are you.

[Michael Duncan]

Oh, really?

[Lee Smith]

The regular season. Correct.

[Comfortably Smug]

Really.

[Michael Duncan]

Right.

[Lee Smith]

He.

[Michael Duncan]

He passed me in the last week because Josh Allen put up like 55 points. Correct.

[Lee Smith]

He passed the ball to himself for a touchdown. Getting a passing.

[Josh Holmes]

I mean, that's. That. That has a tendency of racking up points.

[Michael Duncan]

But I have Derek Henry on my team and David Montgomery and Chuba Hubbard.

[Lee Smith]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

And then.

[Josh Holmes]

And this is a 20 team league.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. Again, 20 team league. And I had all three of those running backs. I had the number one team in fantasy football.

[Lee Smith]

I think that's also.

[Michael Duncan]

And then they just, they just have a bad week and then, well, it's all over.

[Josh Holmes]

You ran into a buzzer. You ran into a buzz. Mike Evans. You didn't see him coming. Nobody saw him coming.

[Lee Smith]

I think it's important to say you're.

[Michael Duncan]

Eight and six on the year for.

[Josh Holmes]

All six, eight, six. Well, I'm still in.

[Comfortably Smug]

Guys. One bad week is much better than 12 bad weeks, which is what I had.

[Josh Holmes]

Which is much like the Cincinnati Bengals.

[Comfortably Smug]

Which is, you know, I mean, very, very.

[Michael Duncan]

He takes a personal shot, he tries to diffuse the situation. And Holmes takes a personal shot.

[Comfortably Smug]

Very disappointing.

[Lee Smith]

The Bengals. He went right.

[Comfortably Smug]

We'll get him next year.

[Lee Smith]

But last thing I'll say in closing is we are in a 20 team league, which I think is the pinnacle of fantasy. You know who the like 9th string receiver is.

[Josh Holmes]

You have to earn it.

[Lee Smith]

Who got signed off the street last week because you're starting him.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

It's so true.

[Lee Smith]

It is true.

[Josh Holmes]

And like if the two thirds of your team isn't wrecked my injury like.

[Lee Smith]

Another thing is if you're at the bar and someone's talking football, you know every player.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh yeah.

[Lee Smith]

You know the water boy getting really.

[Michael Duncan]

Emotionally invested in Cooper Rush.

[Josh Holmes]

He was just starting quarterback.

[Michael Duncan]

He was cuz Trevor Lawrence like his, his brain broke.

[Josh Holmes]

It did. You know, it was, it was a shame. It was a shame.

[Lee Smith]

Something about those Florida QBs. It's brutal.

[Josh Holmes]

Anyway, I'm just going to sit back. I'm going to try to enjoy some things. I hope all of you are going to do something similar. Enjoy your families, a little bit of football, work some, you know, fun and.

[Comfortably Smug]

Merriment tis the season.

[Lee Smith]

And that's the thing is especially our listeners, you've worked so hard this year. We got what we wanted. We got an incoming Trump administration. All our listeners. You did the right thing, voted early. You got your friends out there. We celebrated the victory. Now you rest. And now we get the spoils of victory in January.

[Josh Holmes]

That's exactly right. So we say all of that to gin you up for a little bit more outrage.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Lee Smith]

Before the year is done, get your last bit in.

[Josh Holmes]

We're going to do everything we can to just give you a little taste of why it was that you worked so hard and did so many things. Because I don't know if you guys saw this pardon situation. Like obviously everybody paid attention to the Hunter Biden deal, which cracked the seal on a whole bunch of different problems. And we talked about that ad nauseam. But like beyond that, Biden set a record. This is According to FoxNews.com, biden set record with first term clemency grants. Here's how other presidents rank. So let me just read you a couple paragraphs and we can react to this. President Biden made history last week when he commuted the sentences of nearly 1500 prisoners.

[Comfortably Smug]

That's a big number.

[Josh Holmes]

And pardoned another 39, sparking mixed reactions from lawmakers, including Democrats who noted his actions far outpace the clemency actions of any other US President serving his first term in office. And I mean, we've been around for a while. A while.

[Lee Smith]

Yeah. There was a chart that I saw that was posted comparing the number of clemencies that Biden gave to any other president. And it's like, we're talking not even close.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, I mean, we're gonna get into all that, but like, I mean, Bill Clinton was president of the United States.

[Michael Duncan]

I have a lot of, I have a lot of thoughts on this entire scheme. And the number was that big because they needed to hide the ones that were the worst.

[Josh Holmes]

Yes, sir, we'll talk about it. Yes, sir, we're gonna talk about all of that. His lengthy list is, according to Fox Spark, mixed reaction and criminal justice reform advocates who questioned the administration's decision making in determining prisoners who are eligible for for clemency. It's coming from within.

[Lee Smith]

They're like, wait, we like getting people out of jail, but this is a bit much.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

If those guys are like, whoa.

[Michael Duncan]

Soros. Prosecutors are like, all right, okay, this is a little much.

[Josh Holmes]

This is the one we did prosecute before leaving office.

[Michael Duncan]

That's funny. That's funny.

[Josh Holmes]

Before leaving office in 2017, Barack Obama granted clemency to 1927 individuals during two terms as president, the highest total of any modern president going back to Harry Truman, also a Democrat. That's worth noting, according to Pew Research center analysis and the Justice Department. So we're gonna break this down a little bit and you're gonna get a better insight into more than just the numbers and the statistics of, like, why he's so outpaced. I think Duncan's point.

[Lee Smith]

He's 100% right.

[Josh Holmes]

I think Duncan's point might be something you all are interested in. We'll tell you why you should be so shocked right after this.

[Comfortably Smug]

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[Josh Holmes]

So we're going to continue on with Fox News because they've been covering this unlike anyone else. Yeah, right. I mean, is it funny? You get that you get all of this navel gazing from mainstream. Oh, we're losing our audience. Well, we've lost credibility. Leslie Stahl's like, I don't know if we could ever get it back. Like, it seems so tough and difficult and like, how do we go about doing it? I don't know. It's right in front of your fucking face. And the Only people that are actually covering any of this. This is Fox News. So here's another story. Illinois community outraged after Biden commutes a sentence of fraudster behind a $53 million embezzlement scandal.

[Comfortably Smug]

Oh, my goodness.

[Michael Duncan]

It's like a comptroller.

[Comfortably Smug]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

President Biden added a woman behind the largest municipal embezzlement scandal in US History.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. Stole taxpayer money to his list of.

[Josh Holmes]

Clemency controversies, outraging a small Illinois community in the process. Former Dixon, Illinois Comptroller Rita Crundwell, 71. Now, there you go. Maybe it's a boomer thing. Who stole nearly $54 million from the town over 22 years. I mean, first 52. How does Dicks in Illinois have $54 million?

[Lee Smith]

That's roughly $180,000 a month.

[Josh Holmes]

I mean, dude, what am I gonna drop fans on the floor?

[Lee Smith]

180K a month.

[Josh Holmes]

You just did that math.

[Lee Smith]

Yeah. Rita was like, listen, I got my house needs about $180,000 a month.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, listen to Rain Man. He understands it.

[Lee Smith]

For 22 years.

[Josh Holmes]

She had her sentence commuted as a part of a broader commutation last Thursday, making her one of 1500 the most ever granted by a president in a single day. Biden's blanket move also commuted the prison sentence for a corrupt judge involved in the Cash for Kids scheme.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah, the Cash for Kids scheme. It happened in northeastern Pennsylvania. They made a whole documentary about it.

[Josh Holmes]

They did.

[Michael Duncan]

I highly recommend you watch. It's horrific what this judge did to these kids, where he basically got a cut of this private prison that he started sentencing all these minors to who were having, you know, problems. Real, real problems in school or at home, but sending them to basically a prison that he was getting paid to fill.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

And were they bad kids? Some of these kids committed suicide because of what he did to them.

[Lee Smith]

Were they bad kids, though? Like, they weren't doing. Were they doing weird shit? Because I don't want them to. Weird.

[Michael Duncan]

I'm sure there are kids who are bad kids, but bad kids are from bad family sometimes. It's not always the kids.

[Josh Holmes]

This is not even about the bad kids. It's about this guy basically taking. It was basically taking kickbacks to send him to prisons.

[Lee Smith]

Is this the one that some of the kids were, like, innocent? He was like, the hell with it. Just send them anyway.

[Michael Duncan]

Right.

[Lee Smith]

Okay, so that's wrong.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. And some of these kids killed themselves, and he's getting out of prison.

[Comfortably Smug]

But you know. You know what strikes me back to a point Holmes made in setting this whole thing up is. This is an interesting story about an outrageous move by an idiot president that is completely, completely ignored by the mainstream media and Fox News. I'll just read one headline. Fox News dominates 2024. Viewership topping CNN and MSNBC combined during unprecedented year of news. Combined in the reason why in a.

[Josh Holmes]

Presidential election year, guys, everybody had their jerseys on all year long and they doubled everyone else.

[Comfortably Smug]

That's exactly combined. The reason why is because they're providing information for their audience, just like what we're talking about right now, directly.

[Josh Holmes]

Very good point.

[Michael Duncan]

So the thing that really outrages me about this entire thing is that the way that Biden allies and the administration are selling all of this, this 1500 commutations and pardons or whatever is that, you know, these were people who were sent to home confinement during COVID protocol. So, you know, it's people who are getting out of prison in a few years or had committed lesser offenses, but really that's just a Trojan horse to let out some of the worst people who I think really embody the entire Biden era of the White House, which is a cash and car government where they've abused the public trust, taken money, sent kids to prison who didn't deserve it, who killed themselves, and Biden's letting them out. I mean, it's fudgeing outrageous, I think.

[Josh Holmes]

Totally.

[Lee Smith]

I mean, that's like, for. For Joe Biden to be releasing people on corruption charges. It's like.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah, it's a little on the nose a little bit.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. Poor Rita Grunt Cronwell is like the. The Bernie Madoff of Central Illinois. $54 million for that. That ain. Surrounding error in. In Dixon that's getting them a new.

[Lee Smith]

Fire department and a police department. She's like, $54 million.

[Josh Holmes]

Don't mind if I do. Where does she. She's like, building a villa in Nice.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

You know what I mean? Like, what do you do 54m from a comptroller in Dixon, Illinois. Like, maybe you could have taken a couple hundred grand at least.

[Michael Duncan]

At least an office space. They had the dignity to be like, all right, fractions of a penny, you know, and just a lot. A lot of transactions. This situation.

[Lee Smith]

She just took it all. There's like one mysterious palace in Dixon, Illinois. And everyone's like, why's Rita got a house like that?

[Comfortably Smug]

She's very good at investing. Got in early on.

[Michael Duncan]

How do you think someone gets to be comptroller? They're good with money.

[Josh Holmes]

They're good with money. Yeah. It's like, I Went to kindergarten with Rita. Her family didn't seem that well off. I don't know. She. Well, she's a free woman today.

[Lee Smith]

Yeah. Thanks so much. That's the kind of person who doesn't get locked up on my watch.

[Josh Holmes]

You know who weighed in? This is my favorite part of this. You know who weighed in on the Cash for Kids? Pardon?

[Comfortably Smug]

Who?

[Josh Holmes]

Shapiro.

[Michael Duncan]

Little Dem on Dem. Violence. I love it.

[Lee Smith]

Oh, the governor of Pennsylvania, you know.

[Josh Holmes]

So we talked about this in. Before Kamala had selected Tampon Tim about, like, how if anyone has two, like, a brain cell left in their head, you obviously pick the guy who's from the state that you need to win in order to get to 270. And they're like, no, of course not. We're gonna go pick Tampon Tim. So they. They pick Tampon Tim. And like, Shapiro then through all these media interviews, and he was a team player, I think he did. Held up his end of the bargain for the Democratic side. But he was clearly, like, far more skilled.

[Comfortably Smug]

Right.

[Josh Holmes]

And far more articulate and far more liked, frankly, than Tampon Tim.

[Lee Smith]

They're like, we need Pennsylvania to win. Here's a guy who knows how to win Pennsylvania statewide. We're going with Tim.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Comfortably Smug]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

But I mean, you know why he's more. Far more, like, because of stuff like this.

[Lee Smith]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Like, I mean, he lives in the state where all this stuff went down, and he. I mean, this guy says it's absolutely wrong in granting clemency to this guy, saying that it's created a lot of pain in northeastern Pennsylvania. So good luck getting on the right track anytime soon. Democrats.

[Lee Smith]

I mean, it's. It's like Duncan said, is when you look at these individual cases, they put that 1500 number out there to be like, oh, that's a lot of people blanket.

[Michael Duncan]

You know, big. We were dealing with a lot.

[Lee Smith]

Yeah. You know, to blanket these egregious individual cases.

[Michael Duncan]

I mean, Shapiro goes on to say, some children took their lives because of this. Families were torn apart. This is lazy governance. It is really abuse of authority and power.

[Lee Smith]

That's something. Something to say straight up. A Democrat president from a Democrat governor.

[Josh Holmes]

You got other people saying that. It's like, of course it's an abuse of power. You know, we're outraged that Rita's released, but all the work I've done as a police officer around protecting children, alternatives to detention, the impact of detention on children. To have this judge walk free to have a day taken off his sentence, while that's just so wrong. Wow.

[Comfortably Smug]

Yeah. You know, on top of these people, you have two Chinese spies who are stealing eviction plans. And then you've got the child porn guy and you've got all these people. So to Duncan's point. Is a really good one. They're trying to bury all of the egregious cases with the number. Exactly.

[Lee Smith]

But it's so Biden. It's like all his favorite things. Helping out China. Cash for kids. More corruption.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. A real capstone to his presidency.

[Lee Smith]

100%. It's. That's pure Biden.

[Josh Holmes]

So. All right. He's still got the better part of a month.

[Comfortably Smug]

Oh, so you think there could be more.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. And that's our question of the day. He's at 1500 before the first of the year. And he only have 20 days.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Before Donald Trump is sworn in.

[Michael Duncan]

The 11th hour ones are usually the most horrendous.

[Josh Holmes]

Those are the dogs.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Lee Smith]

Has he pardoned his brother yet?

[Josh Holmes]

No, but I imagine that that one's coming.

[Comfortably Smug]

Wonder if he'll pardon Obama. Obama.

[Josh Holmes]

What a hilarious take.

[Comfortably Smug]

Obama. Yes.

[Lee Smith]

Based Ashburn. I wonder if he'll pardon such a great addition to the team.

[Comfortably Smug]

I wonder if he'll pardon Obama because I don't know if you guys are.

[Lee Smith]

Aware for what the guy Obama drowned that some people say Obama drowned.

[Michael Duncan]

Many people are saying parody. Parody. We're laughing.

[Josh Holmes]

Not even the mistreatment of Larry Sinclair.

[Comfortably Smug]

I was simply thinking the price of our health insurance, which has tripled since the guy was president and promised it would bend the cost curve down. I wonder.

[Michael Duncan]

Larry Sinclair.

[Josh Holmes]

I can't.

[Michael Duncan]

Is that. Is that the crime? Is he didn't reciprocate?

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Lee Smith]

Oh, my God.

[Comfortably Smug]

It's a one for one.

[Michael Duncan]

I'm sorry. Just Google it. Just Google it.

[Josh Holmes]

It's a holiday season.

[Comfortably Smug]

Or save yourself and don't Google.

[Josh Holmes]

It's the holiday season. Bear with us. We gotta have some fun. You gotta have some fun. And we're not all. It's not all serious stuff here.

[Comfortably Smug]

Anyhow. He didn't pardon Obama yet. He didn't pardon Hillary Clinton yet. Hillary Clinton. Two of the biggest. Donald Trump. Of something that was materially inaccurate about the Russian collusion. You know, he didn't pardon Bill Clinton yet.

[Lee Smith]

Obama needs to go to jail. Oh, yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Why did you get him?

[Comfortably Smug]

I mean, have you. I'm sorry. Did you pay your health insurance premium this day?

[Josh Holmes]

I did.

[Lee Smith]

It was a ton. It's expensive. But there's a lot of other crimes. I put Obama on first.

[Josh Holmes]

I'm not going to ask. I'm not going to ask because many.

[Lee Smith]

People said Martha's Vineyard. This guy drowned.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, my God.

[Michael Duncan]

We're laughing.

[Josh Holmes]

It's a parody. It's a parody. We're all laughing. This is a parody.

[Lee Smith]

I read it on the Internet.

[Michael Duncan]

We're not going to, like, we're not going to put him in prison for those things, but maybe for droning that wedding. I don't know. We'll see.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, there's clear.

[Lee Smith]

That is a crime.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, no, there's clear precedent exonerating a president from droning terrorists.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Yep. So anyway, that question that we have, and there's been some suggestions here on how you could get far above 1500 if he's done 1500 before the first year, like, what does that total end up on? And here's the trick for you, viewer. We're going to throw in a little something from the ruthless variety program. We're going to have like a Price is Right number here where if you guess somewhere in the neighborhood without going over, without going over the number of pardons that are gonna happen ultimately under the Biden watch, we're gonna throw in some merch. And what kind of merch are we talking about? The best stuff. Right. The best stuff.

[Lee Smith]

About $100 value.

[Josh Holmes]

About a hundred dollar value.

[Lee Smith]

And so official rules, is it clemency or is it pardons or is it both?

[Michael Duncan]

I think you roll it all up.

[Lee Smith]

Clemency. That's. That's fair.

[Josh Holmes]

We roll it all. Clemency and pardons and pardons because that's what we're dealing with. With a 1500 person number. That's what we're going to deal with. You guess it. You put it in our comments. You got to like and subscribe in order to do it. Like and subscribe. Put it in the comments.

[Lee Smith]

This is a good game.

[Josh Holmes]

And then whatever the winner is, you'll get a hundred bucks worth of merch.

[Comfortably Smug]

Here's the other thing you, that you got to keep in mind throughout the process. It's not the one. So if Biden adds Obama, okay, that's one person. But if he adds the pod, save bros for fraudulently claiming credit as white guys who elected the first black president. That's like four or five at one time.

[Lee Smith]

Can we get a shirt at the merch store from Ashbrook Jail? Obama just an Ashbrook, John Ashbrook quote.

[Comfortably Smug]

So, you know, fraud is something that they're.

[Michael Duncan]

This is off the rails.

[Josh Holmes]

There's nothing better when the most sober amongst us has become.

[Michael Duncan]

I, I think it's your. You brought up Larry Sinclair.

[Josh Holmes]

I know. And look what we've done.

[Comfortably Smug]

It's another one. So. So you got to think in multiples here. It's not just by the ones.

[Josh Holmes]

All right, so you get us that number, you put it in the. In the comments, we'll read it, and we'll. We'll get to the winner, and then we're. I guess on January 21, the day after Inauguration Day, we will award you. We'll get your address, we'll send you all your stuff. And believe me, Michael's been working very hard to make sure that it is the highest of quality.

[Michael Duncan]

Carpal tunnel.

[Josh Holmes]

Carpal tunnel. He's got all of that. When we come back, your question of the day from last week, which was a doozy. We were talking drones, I guess it was Tuesday, wasn't even last week. It was about drones. And the question was, we'll find out, you know, basically what your thoughts on all of that is. And, you know, there's a. Let's just say there's a wide variety of views on all of that. We're gonna get to all that right after this. I don't have to tell you Americans are ready for what's next. Moving beyond the hardships of inflation and economic anxiety towards building a future, a better future for our families. Ensuring greater access to more affordable energy that powers daily lives. Reliable energy that fuels innovation and economic growth, and the abundant energy that keeps our nation safer and more secure. It's all within our grasp. We'll do this together, building a brighter future for us, powered by America's oil and natural gas resources. You can learn more about all of [e-mail] so listen, after a real spicy last segment, we're back to you with your commentary on Tuesday's question, which is, what do you make of all these drones and all the drone discussion? We had some thoughts and you added to them. If you liked and subscribed. We got to them and we picked a handful. But to do that, we always start with a voice.

[Comfortably Smug]

Okay, first one comes from Mark Wood. Mark writes the drone issue is to distract from something else that is going on and they don't want you to know about it. Proof of this is how much coverage the media is giving to it. They were told to cover this story only in all caps. Mark understands how the media works, and he is not missing a beat.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, I mean, for example, going to the last segment, you pardoned 1500 hardened criminals, and all of a sudden you slip a couple of drones in the air and, you know, nobody pays Attention. Only the ruthless variety program would put a fine point on that. It's a very, very astute point.

[Comfortably Smug]

Thank you, Mark.

[Josh Holmes]

Comment 2. Dunks, Runks.

[Michael Duncan]

This is from Jim Doc USA. Jim writes the drones probably have DNC or Harris Walls bumper stickers as the Dems are actively surveilling the Jersey population to how the hell New Jersey became a battleground state. And kudos to the Biden administration for trotting out John Kirby to reassure the American citizenry. If you were casting the role of greasy Weasley lying spokesman in an 80s action movie, look no further than John Kirby.

[Lee Smith]

Oh, man, that's outstanding.

[Josh Holmes]

You know what, Jim? First of all, great take. Second of all, I hate to tell you, Kirby's the best one I got over there. I mean, that's like Bench. He's like literally the only one that has any resemblance of credibility, but he.

[Comfortably Smug]

Still seems like the kind of guy who would put all of the fellas on that helicopter and send them into the jungle with the predator 100%. You know what I mean?

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, right? Yeah. No, it feels right. All right, so comment three. Smug. What do we got?

[Lee Smith]

Comment three is from jw. And JW writes, writes the Biden administration likely intentionally under communicated on this for the very express purpose of hoping to spur Trump and his surrogates to overreact and have egg on their face later when the government reveals it was all under control the whole time. Trump handled himself exceedingly well at the press conference, showing he doesn't fall for the bait easily. That's a great point.

[Josh Holmes]

God, you know, I mean, our listeners.

[Lee Smith]

And working in that Trump didn't take the bait.

[Michael Duncan]

It's just nailed it smart.

[Comfortably Smug]

Best audience there is.

[Josh Holmes]

It's just like. That's just. It really is. It's a good. It's a good take, good read. So as Democrats look to rebuild their decimated party, they're turning to an old adversary of the program for help. Fellas. Yeah, it's one of our champions.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. Somebody who's not gonna tell you which one.

[Josh Holmes]

She's a first name basis. He or she is a first name basis here on the variety program. Everybody will know who exactly we're talking about, but we're gonna get to all of that on how they're actually putting a plan in place to go brief Democratic donors using this person. You will not fricking believe. It is mind blowing. We're gonna get to it right after this.

[Comfortably Smug]

All right, so I just gotta point out that my friends at Americans for Prosperity made a huge difference this year, AFP volunteers made millions of voter contacts, which is absolutely mind blowing. They are the largest effective ground game operation in the country to defend and advance the conservative movement. But now that the election is behind us, the hard work of turning electoral victory into policy wins begins. And the grassroots army with Americans for Prosperity will again be in the thick of it. We have an incredible opportunity next year to get the country back on track, but it means we're all going to have to roll up our sleeves and get to work. If you're ready to join a winning team making a difference across the country, check out my friends at AFP and you can learn more at americansforprosperity.org.

[Josh Holmes]

So this is the surprise. And like, what's not a surprise is that Democrats are having, shall we say, a little bit of trouble trying to figure out their way in the world after this election. They thought that they could just, they thought they had a game plan and then that kind of fell apart with Biden. And then they were like, oh, Kamala, like, we can stand anybody up against Trump. We're gonna win this thing. And they were very confident.

[Lee Smith]

And then they gave Kamala a billion dollars. And now the donors are like, wait, what?

[Comfortably Smug]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

So now everybody's looking for answers. And so there are groups that are putting together, not surprisingly, you know, a little profit motive there perhaps, but they're discussing with your more earnest Democratic set, like, this is what we need to do.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah, Think of like the Romney 2012 autopilot. That's kind of what's going on. That's their version of that.

[Josh Holmes]

This is the set that is exactly a perfect parallel. So according to the New York Times, the old gray lady. According to the New York Times, a liberal group, American Bridge, is planning to bring donors together early next year in Palm Beach, Florida. Interesting choice of location. Really interesting choice of locations. I don't know how they'll get many of these people in and out of there without at least some interaction with the real voter, but they're going to try. As Democratic Big Money Universe debates how they can do better in 26 and 28, a group of wealthy Democratic donors will gather early next year to try to figure out how the party can recover from Donald J. Trump's victory and extricate itself from the liberal malaise over the looming second term. Big Dollar Democratic contributors have been despondent and adrift since Mr. Trump's triumph last month, and their willingness to open their checkbooks to fund opposition to him remains in doubt. But the liberal group American Bridge, who I might add. Got a reason to open some of those checkbooks. They are the recipient of many of them. They plan to bring dozens of donors to the luxury hotel in Palm Beach, Florida, from January 31st 1st to February 3rd. And according to Alexandra DeLuca, spokesman from the organization, speakers will include Mitch Landrieu. Okay, remember, that was the mayor of New Orleans who they put. They put basically in charge of nothing, but they wanted him as a surrogate because he spoke a little bit more like a real human being.

[Comfortably Smug]

Right. The only thing better than one crawfish dinner. Three crawfish dinners. Oh, okay. He's gonna get a Republican vote.

[Lee Smith]

That was an excellent.

[Comfortably Smug]

Thanks, Mitch.

[Lee Smith]

That was an excellent. Mitch Landrew.

[Josh Holmes]

Wow. Dude, man's on fire today. God, that's good. A former administration official who also served as mayor of New Orleans, Heather Cox Richardson. She's a historian and popular newsletter writer. I'm unfamiliar with her work.

[Comfortably Smug]

They know how to win in that state.

[Josh Holmes]

And Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian.

[Comfortably Smug]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, he was, like, in member writing speeches with Biden at one point. I think he was in. If I'm not mistaken about this, and don't hold me to it entirely, but if I'm not mistaken, I remember reading news about this three years ago when Biden did that ominous red backdrop speech in front of the Philadelphia in September. Backdrop where it was.

[Lee Smith]

He looked like Hitler.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. It was basically a speech talking about the end of democracy, and it was all directed towards Donald Trump and what have you. Very, very political speech. But I'm told, I think I remember Douglas Brinkley being a part of that. In terms of. Part of the writing anyway, so you get a little gist of that. Jim Messina, the campaign manager for Barack Obama's reelection run and the senior advisor to American Bridge. What they don't say here is he was also involved in the Kamala situation.

[Lee Smith]

Has this guy not made enough money like Jim Messina has been fleecing these damn donors for a dollar?

[Josh Holmes]

Dude, that's the best part about Democrats is they never change the staff, the lineup never changes. It's like if your favorite team ran it back every year with the exact same crew. I mean, I've been in this town for 20 years. They're the same Democrats that I dealt with 20 years ago that are now still in charge of everything today.

[Lee Smith]

I mean, Messina's made a killing. The dudes advise, like, corporations, American Bridge, all these left wing, dark money groups. And he even got a piece of the action with Kamala. He got a piece of that billion dollars that got Put up in smoke. And he's still back at it.

[Josh Holmes]

He's back at it.

[Lee Smith]

Rogue can't get enough.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, he's a senior adviser at American Bridge. John Delavolt, a top Democratic pollster.

[Lee Smith]

And then here's the kicker.

[Josh Holmes]

And then here's the one that you've all been waiting for. Opinion columnist Jennifer Rubin.

[Comfortably Smug]

No way. Are you kidding me? I purposefully did not read ahead because I wanted to be surprised. Are you actually kidding me? The conservative columnist for the Washington Post is giving Democrats advice about how to win an election.

[Michael Duncan]

Dude, it's so perfect. Cuz the only people dumber than Democratic voters are Democratic donors. And like, they are the only people who would still pick up a newspaper and read what Jennifer Rubin has to say about our politics.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, and think it. And think it. Like there's wisdom. There's wisdom in it. Like, imagine reading anything that she's done in at any point over the last, I don't know, eight years and being like, nail on the head stuff. Yeah, if only we could drive a message like she writes.

[Lee Smith]

You know, to me, this is a really weird thing because I thought one of the elections there were a few Democrats I felt like got it in the like shell shock aftermath of election day.

[Josh Holmes]

They were like, get rid of this crew.

[Lee Smith]

They were like, we're done with these. Like never Trumper. These like, you know, these Republicans that.

[Josh Holmes]

Never won anything in Republican politics. Exactly. They shifted to our side. Now we never win.

[Lee Smith]

Yeah. They're like, why are we having anything to do with this? But that lasted for like 72 hours. And then these grifters jumped right back in there. Like, I would have thought that they had that moment of clarity and I was like, oh no. They've realized the idiots we cast off the island are actually worthless.

[Josh Holmes]

I'd like to know. Ask American Bridge. Like, send us your invitation. We'll distribute it. Yeah, we'll distribute it. I want to make sure that every Democrat has the opportunity to attend such a thing. It's very important that you get.

[Lee Smith]

All their money should be spent on this kind of like, you know, a bunch of idiots together at some luxury resort and just come up with more stupid ideas that haven't worked.

[Josh Holmes]

You know, like they're like moseying around the breakers and like all of a sudden they show up and they're like.

[Michael Duncan]

Last in here is John Harwood too.

[Josh Holmes]

That, that's what the thing I was going to say.

[Comfortably Smug]

Of course, John Harwood. Of course.

[Josh Holmes]

Moseying around the breakers. All of a sudden you get newsman John Harwood, who's going to give you a very fair and balanced take on the state of democracy here in America.

[Lee Smith]

I've actually had kind of like a long running beef with John Harwood going back well over 10 years, right? When he was at CNBC.

[Michael Duncan]

It's like Tupac and Biggie like to.

[Comfortably Smug]

Hear more about this.

[Lee Smith]

So he was back at cnbc and he would very frequently in financial news matters get things wrong. And I'd be like, this is very basic shit. Like, you know, ask the dude with the camera, he knows this shit better than you. You're getting this wrong. And he'd get mad at me about this shit. And then Trump, Trump got elected and Harwood, the last part of his brain that worked just cracked, snapped, right? And he just went. He was one of these, like, broken journals that, like, they took their job as a journalist of being that, like, I will just say anti Trump shit all day long. It didn't work. He lost his job. And so then I danced on his grave and I was like, I told you for years you were a rotten journalist. It took everyone else a while to figure it out. And he blocked me for it. So, John Harwood, I remember. You're stupid.

[Josh Holmes]

Don't block him.

[Lee Smith]

And the truth hurts, which is why you block him.

[Josh Holmes]

Don't block him. That's how he remembers. He won't remember any of this unless you block him. And then if you do, like, he remembers.

[Michael Duncan]

I love when we get like a five minute monologue from Smug on like a personal slide he had 10 years ago. It's so perfect.

[Josh Holmes]

It's so good. It's smug. It's smug.

[Michael Duncan]

It's the best.

[Comfortably Smug]

You know what strikes me about this list is the names who are not on it. You got Jen Rubin and John Harwood, but you have no aoc. You have no Jasmine Crockett. You have no Michelle Obama.

[Josh Holmes]

I see what you're doing.

[Comfortably Smug]

These people who are the future of the Democrat Party, I see what you're doing. Not invited to Palm Beach. And you have to ask yourself the question, why are they moving on from aoc? Is there some sort of internal fracture that is unspoken with this wealthy crowd of people who are going to be down there eating caviar and drinking champagne?

[Lee Smith]

The power brokers didn't let AOC get over oversight.

[Comfortably Smug]

And they're like, they're like, aoc, we don't even want you to serve us drinks.

[Josh Holmes]

Down, John, are you suggesting that perhaps your rank and file establishment Democrat doesn't respect or even acknowledge the Base of their party.

[Comfortably Smug]

I think they hate their base because.

[Lee Smith]

AOC could make a mean drink if she's down there. You know, you have a bartender.

[Comfortably Smug]

Yeah. I mean, she comes by it honestly. Like, in all honesty. In all honesty of me, direct. Why not? Why not have aoc? I mean, she's got a big following on Twitter, and she's got, like. She's got ideas.

[Josh Holmes]

I mean, you're going to Palm Beach. AOC is not the worst invite.

[Comfortably Smug]

Why block her? And American Bridge is like the left of the left. Right. So what is going on in their party?

[Lee Smith]

There's a fraction.

[Comfortably Smug]

What is? What's going on over there?

[Josh Holmes]

We know. I think we know. I think you put your finger on it.

[Lee Smith]

Damn. Ashbrooke's right.

[Josh Holmes]

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[Lee Smith]

So Lumen is terrific. It's easy to use. Basically, it's like the size of your thumb. I keep it right next to my bed. Wake up in the morning, you pop the cap off it. There it is right there. There. You pop off the cap, you breathe out, you breathe in. The machine instantly reads, okay, this is what your body's doing. Here's what your metabolism's doing. Currently, it's burning carbohydrates or currently, it's burning fat. It tells you what that means, and it tells you, here's what you do for the rest of the day. It's not like. So I have them all. I got the. You know, the ura. I got the whoop. They'll tell you, okay, this is your hrv, and it's like, okay, I have zero understanding of what that means for me. Right. What Lumen does is it tells you. Don't worry about, you know, HRV or anything. Here's what you do with the rest of your day. It makes it so simple, and it's effective.

[Comfortably Smug]

The other thing that we all know and love about you. Smug, is that you're a numbers guy, and you will not accept any numbers that don't have the credibility to sort of enter your brain space. And you know that Lumen's numbers were developed by PhDs, so they're credible.

[Michael Duncan]

But even if you aren't a good numbers guy, what I like about Lumen is it makes it all really simple. Simple.

[Lee Smith]

Yep.

[Michael Duncan]

It's like for people who are busy and can't do complicated meal plans or meal prep. Five things in a Tupperware over the course of the week. This tells you what your cheat sheet is for, what you should eat.

[Josh Holmes]

You blow into it and it gives you a personalized nutrition plan.

[Michael Duncan]

Yep.

[Josh Holmes]

Like, I don't.

[Michael Duncan]

I mean, can't be more easy.

[Josh Holmes]

It just. It doesn't get any.

[Lee Smith]

You don't have to pay an arm and a leg for that. Like you said, straight up personalized to you. It reads you at that moment and tells you what to do. It's amazing.

[Josh Holmes]

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[Lee Smith]

Yes.

[Josh Holmes]

And we're going to get to it right after this. I don't have to tell you Americans are ready for what's next. Moving beyond the hardships of inflation and economic anxiety towards building a future, a better future for our families. Ensuring greater access to more affordable energy that powers daily lives. Reliable energy that fuels innovation and economic growth, and the abundant energy that keeps our nation safer and more secure. It's all within our grasp. We'll do this together, building a brighter future for us, powered by America's oil and natural gas resources. You can learn more about all of [e-mail] okay, fellas, it's time for King of the Hill, the signature game here on the Variety program. We play it on Thursdays. It's a fan favorite. And I'm going to be a competitor this time around.

[Lee Smith]

Yeah. This is going to be an incredible matchup. Matchup. I'm going to be the judge. As folks know, I run a fair court, fair decisions.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. And I'm the champion. And I've got Ron Filipowski, a unseated challenger last week, who took down a titan Sherry. My Sherry.

[Josh Holmes]

Totally. I mean, it was a. It was a Cinderella story.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. A real 16 in one scene.

[Josh Holmes]

It really was. It was incredible.

[Michael Duncan]

All right, who do you have?

[Comfortably Smug]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, it's Jen Ruff Cuban. I read this story and I was like, there's no way I can go with anybody else.

[Michael Duncan]

He goes right to the top shelf for the best stuff.

[Josh Holmes]

Listen, she's the center of the Democratic Party today. She was a conservative columnist.

[Michael Duncan]

Like, he just. He comes to your house and he takes the Pappy off the top shelf. That's what he does.

[Josh Holmes]

It wouldn't be there if it wasn't to be enjoyed.

[Michael Duncan]

Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

[Lee Smith]

You know, it's. It's. It's a great trial by fire for Philipowski if he can get knockoff Sherry and Jen. I mean, the guys.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, that's a whole. That's a hall of fame type deal. Yeah, no question.

[Michael Duncan]

We'll see. Let's go ringside.

[Comfortably Smug]

Ladies and gentlemen, your attention, please. It's time for King of the hip in the red corner, fighting from Palm beach at a conference where she will present her vision for the future of the Democrat party, fighting for a chance to reclaim her crown. Jennifer Rainworms Ruben. And Knock. In the blue corner, hiding from who knows where. Ron. Philippa Villaba. How do you say the name anyway? Villa Pas.

[Lee Smith]

Best in the business.

[Josh Holmes]

What a special treat in the holidays. He really put his back into that. Who's the judge?

[Lee Smith]

Right here.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, you're the judge. Yep.

[Comfortably Smug]

I'm Bailiff.

[Josh Holmes]

Bailiff. Okay.

[Comfortably Smug]

I'm at your service, your honor.

[Lee Smith]

And champion goes first.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. So before I go to this, remember, we covered previously the CNN story where Clarissa Ward goes to prison to release this prisoner of the Assad regime. And it turns out all of that shit was wrong. Let's go spaghetti to exhibit number two, please. So I'll characterize the tweet first. There is a tweet that showcases the CNN video about, you know, an extraordinary moment of Clarissa Ward doing this thing, you know, help free this prisoner of the Assad regime. And there's a community note that's put underneath it that Ron doesn't appreciate. He hates that there's a community note there, and we might get to the actual truth of the original tweet. What is Ron White right here? The community note here is a despicable lie. The article it links to says the exact opposite in all caps of what the note claims. Musk shared a doctored video with fake audio intended to make it appear Ward stage something. Musk got community noted on that, not CNN or war.

[Lee Smith]

And so.

[Michael Duncan]

So he's defending it.

[Lee Smith]

And if I understand correctly, this dude, who is. Who CNN said is a prisoner of Assad, was actually one of Assad's torturers.

[Michael Duncan]

Yes, yes, yes. And Rod is out here being like, no, the community note is wrong. Don't put in the newspaper that I got mad.

[Comfortably Smug]

You're right.

[Lee Smith]

He's in there, like, at work torturing people in the prison. CN's like, are you a prisoner? He's like, yes.

[Comfortably Smug]

Your Honor, I, I would.

[Josh Holmes]

It is a funny story. The backstory is much funnier than the actual.

[Lee Smith]

He's like, I'm busy at work. What do you guys want?

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, what do you want from me?

[Lee Smith]

We're bring prisoners.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, let me throw this blanket on me.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Hey, I'm a victim.

[Comfortably Smug]

I simply would like to add for our judge that I noticed the date and time. December 10th, which was a Tuesday. The time was 7:10am so the first thing the guy did on A Tuesday at 7am was tweet.

[Lee Smith]

That bad. Takes take no time off first thing in the morning.

[Josh Holmes]

They don't. I'm not gonna need a big wind up on this at all. I'm just. This is Jen at Jen's. I mean, she's just doing what she does. She's the queen. Let's roll. Exhibit seven, please. Spaghetts. The scariest words you'll hear from a voter. I do my own research.

[Lee Smith]

My God.

[Josh Holmes]

And then she cc's Radio Free Tom.

[Lee Smith]

This is the kind of insight I hope she gives all these Democrats be like, let's just say voters are dumb and we hate them.

[Josh Holmes]

The best part about it is the context of the article that we just covered that she's going down to brief a whole bunch of Democrats on how you go about winning elections. Let me give you the upshot. The upshot is these people are fucking dumb as shit and they don't know anything. So you gotta just tell them what it is. Congratulations, Jen. Top notch political strategist. I hope the Democratic Party follows everything that you have to say.

[Lee Smith]

I gotta think that has to be your strongest take because that's an unreal opening hand. First round goes to Jen Rubin.

[Comfortably Smug]

Okay.

[Michael Duncan]

Boo hiss.

[Lee Smith]

I mean, you saw it yourself, dude. She's like, democrat voters are dumb.

[Michael Duncan]

Wow.

[Comfortably Smug]

And she tagged Radio Free's Blue sky account.

[Michael Duncan]

I do appreciate that on Blue sky, which many people are saying is not now Blue Cry.

[Lee Smith]

That's a good name for it. It really is.

[Michael Duncan]

Is that they cc each other on there. Like they don't get enough back pats to each other.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

It's like you created a safe space and you're like, I need more attention in my safe space.

[Josh Holmes]

Okay, so we're on to round two.

[Michael Duncan]

You have to go first.

[Josh Holmes]

Okay. So Jen, as you know, is a student of the Middle East.

[Lee Smith]

Come, boy.

[Josh Holmes]

And on this, you know, second week of December, some six weeks removed from the election, when we've seen all the world leaders sort of move to try to accommodate Trump, there's a Tweet that she's responding to. She's quote, tweeting that I'll characterize. I'm not even going to tell you who about perhaps Israel and Saudi Arabia reaching some kind of a normalization, kind.

[Lee Smith]

Of like what they did when Trump got the five years ago. Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

So here's your tweet. It's exhibit six, please. Baguettes. Would be huge, gigantic win for Biden if true. Let's wait and see.

[Comfortably Smug]

Amazing.

[Josh Holmes]

The beauty of this and like, the artistry of this is that this is a situation where normalcy had benched established between Israel and Saudi Arabia with Jared Kushner and the Abraham Accords and all of the things that happened in 2020, it was upended obviously by the Biden administration. October 7th, all of these other things, and the Biden administration completely fucking wasted all of the progress over four years that the Trump administration had made with this specific thing, this exact thing. And she's like, would be huge, gigantic Biden win if True. I mean, she'd give her a little space.

[Lee Smith]

It'd be like if Biden in his closing days decided to build a wall. And she was like, what a great idea Biden just came up with. This is a problem that needed to be solved.

[Josh Holmes]

So good. So good.

[Michael Duncan]

Well, to borrow a phrase from my competitor in round one, I don't need a whole wind up to sell this one. Spaghetti, can you put up exhibit number 13? Patriot takes puts up a tweet attacking Larry Hogan. Ron Filipowski quote, tweets it and says, there are no normal Republicans.

[Lee Smith]

Amazing.

[Michael Duncan]

This is a guy who was a former Republican, and he's saying, there are no normal Republicans. And, like, to me, attacking Larry Hogan, you know, there's.

[Lee Smith]

There's so many different factors that played into the election results we got, but to me, I feel the biggest one was normal Americans are sick of this shit. Yeah, the, like, main theme I think anyone could come away with is, okay, we're gonna go back to being a normal country. Voters said they want this country to be normal. Like, nuttiness has to go. And for his takeaway to be like, actually, there's no normal Republicans. When, like, the most obvious opposite is the team.

[Michael Duncan]

Literally half of the country.

[Lee Smith]

Boy, that's a tough one.

[Michael Duncan]

There are no normal Republicans, says former Republican.

[Lee Smith]

I mean, dude, listen, that was an incredible take. And in a lot of instances, 99 out of 100, I'd give that one to Jen, but I want to see this one go to three rounds.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, man.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay, there it is.

[Josh Holmes]

I know I'm cocky.

[Michael Duncan]

There it is. Pappy goes back on the shelf, pal.

[Lee Smith]

You gotta fight this one through.

[Josh Holmes]

No, I remain. It's going to round three.

[Lee Smith]

Round two goes. Phil.

[Josh Holmes]

I actually enjoy the challenge. Well, what do you got, Filipowski?

[Michael Duncan]

We'll see if you enjoy this. I agree with the judge, the esteemed judge, the fair judge, the honest judge, that the reason why Republicans were successful and Democrats weren't in this election is they wanted normal. The voters wanted normal and the Democrats refused to give it to them. Illustrated by exhibit number five, spaghetti. So this is another quote tweet, Turning Point USA tweets out that the spelling bee, which I know the challenger here is a big fan of. Yeah, we've had many segments about that.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

Some betting I. You did on it.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, I used to bet before.

[Michael Duncan]

Hilarious, hilarious stories.

[Lee Smith]

Awesome story.

[Michael Duncan]

But that, that this, the national spelling bee, you know, is going to allow another spelling of the word woman.

[Lee Smith]

Oh my God.

[Michael Duncan]

That woman. You can now spell W, O, M, Y, N. Jesus. And Ron Filipowski quote tweets it and says, what are we pretending to be outraged about today?

[Lee Smith]

Amazing.

[Michael Duncan]

Which therein lies the encapsulation of the entire problem of the Democratic party and why they lost on the election is that they hand wave past the most ridiculous things that the liberal left forces their party to pretend that they believe. Nobody thinks we should spell women with a why, but they're gonna do it.

[Lee Smith]

It's the same as the Latinx dumb shit.

[Michael Duncan]

And it also, it's also, you know, speaks to the institutional capture of the left in this country that you've got the spelling bee, literally an institution dedicated to spelling words correctly is going to spell woman with a Y. I mean, I don't think you can do better than that.

[Lee Smith]

That's pretty good.

[Michael Duncan]

That's all I got.

[Lee Smith]

That's pretty good.

[Josh Holmes]

Pretty good. Good. But I'm going to thank our listeners. I'm going to point to the seats and I'm going to call home here because this is just going to be the end of this thing. And I appreciate Philip HK Newcomer on the program, so.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay.

[Lee Smith]

All right.

[Michael Duncan]

Is he editorializing by my tick or is he doing his daylift?

[Lee Smith]

What is.

[Michael Duncan]

What are you doing over here?

[Lee Smith]

You sleeping the day off?

[Josh Holmes]

Hey, you know what? Let's see. Let's see for yourself.

[Comfortably Smug]

It. It's allowed.

[Michael Duncan]

It's allowed. Okay.

[Josh Holmes]

I'd like you to see for yourself. Exhibiting date the week after the assassination of UnitedHealth CEO. She says coming around to the view that like prisons, news outlets and Insurance companies should not be based in profit motive.

[Lee Smith]

My God.

[Josh Holmes]

Good night.

[Michael Duncan]

I don't know. It feels.

[Josh Holmes]

Good night.

[Michael Duncan]

Feels like in the context of the entire discourse on whether it was okay, you can fight to mert to murder, you can CEO. I feel like that's kind of melt. I'll say this, I'll say muddy in the water.

[Lee Smith]

Something, something. I, I.

[Josh Holmes]

She works at the Washington Post.

[Lee Smith]

A lot of importance on is, Is originality. Because, like, that essentially has been a, a kind of a. Like Duncan said, just a floating theme among all the left of like, oh, you know, actually killing CEO. Good. So it's not very original.

[Josh Holmes]

But.

[Lee Smith]

But I think the point Duncan brings up of, like, now you have spelling bees. Being forced to be like, you can spell women with a Y is total brain rot. And I think Filipowski takes.

[Michael Duncan]

Let's go, let's go.

[Josh Holmes]

No, she's been upset again.

[Michael Duncan]

Yes.

[Josh Holmes]

I can't be.

[Comfortably Smug]

I can't believe that she's in Palm Beach. The lesson for Jen Rubin is you can't take a day off.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, you never. The funny thing about that take from.

[Comfortably Smug]

Her is that, like, she's responsible for.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, for, for one, like, all of her colleagues have been laid off at the Washington Post. And so it should no longer be about profit motive because she's clinging to a gig. And then you, like, link it to the guy who just got murdered right in New York, like, right in front of people, and it's like, no, there's justification.

[Michael Duncan]

But Philip Filipowski is a little bit like that satellite of Maryland. What was the school? Umbc. Dc The Golden Retrievers.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, yeah. No, umbc.

[Michael Duncan]

Umbc, yeah. Made a deep run the Retrievers in March. March Madness. Yeah, he's sort of like that.

[Josh Holmes]

He has a little retrievery.

[Michael Duncan]

He's, he's putting some, you know.

[Josh Holmes]

No, he's putting good points on the board.

[Michael Duncan]

Points on the board.

[Josh Holmes]

I'll respect the verdict. I'll respect the verdict. I don't agree with it, but I'll. I'll respect it. You know, she finds herself. Reuben finds herself getting shortchanged a lot on this program.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay, it doesn't sound like he's respecting the verdict.

[Comfortably Smug]

The bar is high.

[Josh Holmes]

The bar is too high. I think.

[Comfortably Smug]

And to be honest with you, for somebody who is a huge Obama fan the way she is, and for the role Obama played in driving insurance prices through the roof, I feel like maybe I would have ruled differently.

[Michael Duncan]

Oh, so now the bailiff is weighing in to offer.

[Josh Holmes]

A fact.

[Lee Smith]

Would you jail her? With Obama, it's unbelievable.

[Comfortably Smug]

No.

[Josh Holmes]

Maybe a cause for appeal.

[Comfortably Smug]

I regret that I didn't suggest her name for a party. Jordan. With Joe Biden along with the former president.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, now he's filed. He's filed an appeal. Is there a ruling on the appeal?

[Lee Smith]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

Bail.

[Lee Smith]

Do your job.

[Josh Holmes]

I'll do my job.

[Michael Duncan]

Let's go. I remember that. Smug. And I always have solidarity.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, here we go. Here we go. Look at what's going on here.

[Comfortably Smug]

Next week.

[Josh Holmes]

Do you believe this?

[Comfortably Smug]

Next week, I'm the judge and I'll remember it.

[Josh Holmes]

Okay. All right. Well, that's good. I appreciate that. I'm going to bailiff and I'm going to absolutely assert the highest level of work in this court. You guys want some variety?

[Lee Smith]

Yes, always.

[Josh Holmes]

I think we got some variety for you. That's one way to get a cheap flight. This is according to cnn. We don't often cite it, but we are today. Woman who stowed away on a Delta flight to Paris apprehended again, this time flying to Canada. So here's the backdrop to this whole thing. I'm not even going to read the story. I'm just going to tell you what happened. So there's a woman who literally got in, like, the baggage compartment of a Delta flight.

[Comfortably Smug]

What?

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, to Paris last month.

[Lee Smith]

And she flew in the baggage from New York to Paris. Yeah, and she was in the baggage.

[Josh Holmes]

But she must have been in an area where it doesn't immediately kill you.

[Lee Smith]

Well, that must be like, basically flying Southwest.

[Josh Holmes]

There you go.

[Michael Duncan]

Maybe she got in one of those cages they put the dogs into.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, that's probably what it is.

[Michael Duncan]

That are pressurized.

[Josh Holmes]

That's probably it.

[Comfortably Smug]

What's the point of getting groped by TSA if you can just be a terrorist and walk into the baggage compartment.

[Josh Holmes]

I don't know how she got in there. Maybe she was groped and got in the baggage. I don't know. Her name is Svetlana Dali. Very unique. Very unique. Svetlana was then arrested because they found her doing all this on her way. And there was this big argument before the court about whether or not she was a flight risk. And the judge was like, I don't know. She's a stowaway. Like, it seems to me that this lady, if any, is a flight risk. It's somebody who stows away on a commercial flight. Right. Ultimately, the defense attorney wins the argument, and she's given bail to get out.

[Lee Smith]

For this crime that says everything. I mean, folks, if you've boarded a domestic flight in the past few Years, you can tell they've let basically anyone on that thing. It's like 50 stowaways in the back. You know, anything goes. There's no rules on these airlines anymore. And I'm not surprised it's Delta who did this, because Delta is a shitty airline.

[Josh Holmes]

So. Wait, hold on.

[Lee Smith]

Delta. Come on. Delta's a shitty airline. I was trying to fly to Sun Valley.

[Josh Holmes]

They bumped me down. Here it goes again.

[Lee Smith]

They bumped me down in Atlanta, which is a major hub, so they got lots of planes.

[Josh Holmes]

They bumped me down.

[Lee Smith]

They bumped me down. I paid for first class class. Where did they put me? In the rafters with the animals. I'm stuck in Utah waiting for a flight. The real horror was, you know, a friend who.

[Josh Holmes]

Who.

[Lee Smith]

Who sees me back there.

[Josh Holmes]

Delta, I want you to know this is not. This is not an official position of the R. It was.

[Lee Smith]

Whitlock sees me back there, and I was like, I swear they put me here.

[Comfortably Smug]

I didn't.

[Josh Holmes]

They did it. They done it deliberately.

[Lee Smith]

I'll never forgive Delta. And they treat everyone very badly.

[Josh Holmes]

He's so. Well, so what? Any. Anyway, she. They're like, okay, well, she gets out. She, like, within hours, stows away again.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

On a flight to Canada, which is a hell of a bit, like, even beyond the airline comedy to it. She's like a permanent stone.

[Lee Smith]

She's like, be ungovernable. You will never make me stop doing away.

[Comfortably Smug]

And the government's like, no, stow away. The government's like, no, no, no, no, no. Harry Houdini can't do it again. We swear to God. This time we got him.

[Michael Duncan]

I think. I think once you survive it twice, full immunity. Like Joe Biden. Pardon? Like, if you stow away on a transatlantic flight, you're there for five.

[Josh Holmes]

You're free.

[Michael Duncan]

You're free. Yeah, I don't think it should be a crime, actually. If you manage to find a way to survive that, like, total pardon.

[Lee Smith]

Well, this time it was into Canada, right?

[Josh Holmes]

Well, yeah. Yeah. But here's to your question earlier about the TSA stated that she did not have a plane ticket. She intentionally evaded tsa. Okay, so that gets.

[Michael Duncan]

So she's a hero twice over.

[Josh Holmes]

There's a security risk involved.

[Comfortably Smug]

But she's flying to Canada, so it's sort of a domestic.

[Lee Smith]

So that's what you get. You can pay for first class on Delta and you'll have to go through tsa. You're gonna maybe get bumped down. You're gonna get treated very badly. Pre flight drinks. Remember those folks, they're gone, right? But meanwhile, this lady doesn't pay shit, and she'll get a free ticket, and you're paying for it.

[Michael Duncan]

I think landing in Trudeau's Canada is punishment enough.

[Lee Smith]

She should be jailed. The heads of Delta should be jailed. American Airlines is no better, boys.

[Josh Holmes]

She didn't even go to the bottom of the plane.

[Comfortably Smug]

Oh, interesting, Interesting. Where'd she go?

[Josh Holmes]

So the gate agents were busy helping people with, like, you know, standbys or whatever.

[Lee Smith]

That'd be her first. Gate agents helping people.

[Josh Holmes]

And she just.

[Lee Smith]

Usually they're telling you, oh, your carry on's gonna be checked in.

[Josh Holmes]

In.

[Lee Smith]

Well, but I thought that was their job.

[Josh Holmes]

My favorite gate agent thing is, like, and it's like a language that nobody ever could understand. And they're trying to tell you whether your plane is late or boarding or whatever. You're like peanuts. Voice like, I feel like there's one qualification for this job, and it's speaking clearly in English in an American airport.

[Lee Smith]

No, the only qualification is to tell you that your. Your carry on bag, which you're allowed to have, is now going to be checked in. That's their job. These horrible people. All you gate agents are criminals.

[Michael Duncan]

My, my, my favorite thing is when the plane isn't there.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

And it's like 10 minutes to boarding y. And the person's there just typing.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, yeah. But then, but then they'll get enough.

[Michael Duncan]

No gate announcement, but they'll get enough.

[Josh Holmes]

Traffic lined up with a look at you kind of like, okay, and so.

[Michael Duncan]

It looks like we're a little delayed.

[Josh Holmes]

That's. I wish they did that. I wish they did that. That what they do is.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

And you're like, what do you. What is that? Is the plane late? Is it like. And then you're like, trying to. You're like, is this late? Is this like, there's no communication? And it doesn't matter. I'm not picking on Delta or anybody.

[Lee Smith]

America's just as bad.

[Josh Holmes]

Like, there's just a. Like, it seems to me that there is one prerequisite for one job at American in the airport or Delta in the airport or Southwest. I don't know. Like, I don't know if they.

[Lee Smith]

All these airlines, the only prerequisite is you hate humanity fiercely.

[Josh Holmes]

And, like, some of them get a raw deal, right? Because they're on the business end of decisions that are made way before them and they have to deal with anger customers. And, like, when you get a sincere gate agent, I actually kind of feel bad about it. But, like, the vast Majority of them. Not an English word.

[Lee Smith]

Why do they have a poor attitude? Why do they have a poor. You know, it's like, why?

[Josh Holmes]

That's not the one thing you should do.

[Lee Smith]

Here's the thing. When you get a plane ticket, you paid. You're like, okay, I want to get myself and my stuff somewhere at this time. Do we have an agreement? Yeah. Okay. Now, you take my money when you get there. Your plane's late, right? Your check in. Oh, well, good luck finding it. It's probably gonna be lost, wouldn't you say? That's the case, Holmes? American Airlines, I think that's probably the case with that.

[Josh Holmes]

They did incredible work to try to recover my bag, and they did.

[Lee Smith]

After they lost it. It's like, listen, I killed you, buddy, but I tried to resuscitate you. You gotta give. All right? These criminal airlines. I hope Trump goes after all these bastards.

[Josh Holmes]

I'm not going to say a bad word about American because they went above and beyond to try to get my stuff.

[Lee Smith]

American can talk to me, Delta can talk to me. We can fix this problem. But it's been a problem.

[Josh Holmes]

American is. You're listening, American. American is my thing. Yeah, right. You know, like, for a long time, Delta was his thing.

[Comfortably Smug]

I'm a Delta guy.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, because he grew up in Cincinnati.

[Michael Duncan]

Before they pulled the hub out of there from cvg.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, they pulled it out of there.

[Comfortably Smug]

I still love it.

[Josh Holmes]

Unceremoniously. And he still loved him.

[Lee Smith]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

You know, it's like being a Rams fan when you live in St. Louis, you know, it's like they just ripped it out from underneath you. And you still do it. But then we had. He had to go somewhere at the end of an election, and. And there was a direct flight, and.

[Michael Duncan]

He was like, no, through Detroit.

[Josh Holmes]

I fly Delta through Detroit. And he did it. And they put him in, like, the mid. Middle seat next to the bathroom by.

[Michael Duncan]

The time he got there, they called it.

[Josh Holmes]

John Ashbrook is a generally very amiable human being, easily, easy to, like, gets along with everybody. I've never heard him more angry than he was.

[Lee Smith]

And that's the thing. That's how airlines treat people, especially during the holidays. Remember this when you're trying to see your family and everything, your flight's gonna be delayed. Smoke's like, I'll never stop for no answers. And they. They're criminals. These people are criminals. Something's gotta be done about these people.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, boys, just.

[Lee Smith]

To American, all of them just horrible people.

[Josh Holmes]

Just rapid. Jesus.

[Lee Smith]

They're demons.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay, we get it.

[Josh Holmes]

Spock, just wrap this up. She actually snuck past the gate engines and hid in the bathroom.

[Michael Duncan]

Nice.

[Josh Holmes]

She didn't. She had a real ride. This lady's got talent.

[Lee Smith]

Imagine.

[Josh Holmes]

Balls. Svetlana. Svetlana Dali. I mean, she's teaching the world on how to do the stowaway routine. Anyway, she's going to jail.

[Lee Smith]

Anyways. She's got jail.

[Josh Holmes]

You got to remember, our question of the day is how many people will Biden pardon or commute? We've added that it's 1500 plus right now. But he's got another four weeks. You got to ask yourself, how many more thousands can he get through hundreds, even tens? There were some suggestions here made that were interesting. But if you put a number on it and it's Price is Right rules closest without going over, you're going to get yourself some ruthless merch. And Wolf says It's up to 100 bucks. I'll double it. 200 bucks.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Lee Smith]

Okay. I come out of my own pocket now. It's a game.

[Josh Holmes]

200 bucks worth of stuff. Pick out anything you want. We'll get it. There's. We'll get it to you on us. You gotta like and subscribe in order to do it. Well, fellas, I think we did it.

[Lee Smith]

I think so. Absolute banger of an episode. Gentlemen, thank you so much to the minions. Remember, like, subscribe and submit your guests. It's Price is Right rules closest without going over. So until next time, Minions, keep the faith, hold the line and own the libs. We'll see you on Tuesday. Stay ruthless.

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