Democrats’ NEXT LEVEL Crazy

Summary

Ruthless Podcast – Episode Summary

Podcast: Ruthless
Episode: Democrats’ NEXT LEVEL Crazy
Hosts: Josh Holmes, Comfortably Smug, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook
Guest: Jason Miyares (Attorney General of Virginia)
Date: October 9, 2025

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Overview

This episode delivers the trademark "variety progrum" atmosphere, blending sharp conservative critique, irreverent humor, and in-depth analysis of political controversies. The main theme is the escalation of what the hosts perceive as extreme, unhinged behaviors and rhetoric within the Democratic Party, illustrated through recent high-profile incidents involving Democratic politicians and candidates. The tone veers from biting sarcasm to moments of earnest concern, particularly in the interview with Jason Miyares about the stakes in Virginia’s attorney general race.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Next Level Crazy" in Democratic Politics

• Katie Porter’s Media Meltdown ([04:41]–[11:00]):

  • The hosts dissect Rep. Katie Porter's awkward interview, focusing on her dismissiveness towards Trump voters and her visible frustration with persistent questioning by a local reporter.
    • Quote: “There’s a level of darkness right beneath the surface. Like, you hear these stories that she burned her, like, husband’s scalp with mashed potatoes.” — (Smug, [00:13])
  • Porter’s handling of campaign math questions shows, according to the hosts, dangerous political arrogance and detachment.
    • Quote: "One of the most dangerous things a politician can do is start to play political quarterback in their own race." — Michael Duncan ([08:43])
  • The crew references allegations from divorce filings describing Porter's temper and episodes of domestic violence.

• Rhetoric on the Left: Antifa and Blame-Shifting ([14:29]–[16:40]):

  • Senators and media figures (e.g., Jeff Merkley, The View) are mocked for suggesting Trump somehow orchestrated or manufactured left-wing rioting.
    • Quote: "Now the logical conclusion is Donald Trump invented antifa." — Michael Duncan ([16:12])

• Escalating Political Violence and Normalization ([17:15]–[20:10]):

  • The panel notes an increase in left-wing tolerance for violent rhetoric and even acts of violence, suggesting Democratic leaders rarely distance themselves from extreme elements or incidents.
    • Quote: “We've seen candidates now that are openly expressing that they want to murder Republicans and see their children murdered in their mother's arms. That's all been normalized.” — Smug ([17:11])

2. Spotlight: Virginia Attorney General Race

a. The Jay Jones Controversy

• Jay Jones’ Violent Texts ([22:58]–[28:42]):

  • The Democratic candidate for Virginia AG, Jay Jones, sent messages wishing for the death of a political opponent’s children and comparing Republican colleagues to Hitler and Pol Pot.
    • Quote: “If those guys die before me, I will go to their funerals to piss on their graves... three people, two bullets... Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. Spoiler, put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know. And he receives both bullets every time.” — Jay Jones, as read by John Ashbrook ([27:26])

• Democratic Leaders' Non-Response ([24:25]–[29:44]):

  • When pressed, Senators Tim Kaine and Mark Warner do not call on Jones to withdraw despite widespread condemnation from across the political spectrum.
    • Quote: “There is a candidate on the Democratic ticket who is wishing to kill the children of his political opponent... and he’s standing right by him.” — Josh Holmes ([24:51])
    • Quote: “I mean, it's only moral courage when you have something to lose. ...But, like, where's the Democrat you have on that panel where they have to answer for it? Nowhere.” — Michael Duncan ([29:29])

• Frustration With Broken Political Norms ([27:01], [42:38]):

  • The hosts lament the loss of bipartisan moral standards, comparing these events to how Republicans handled their own problematic candidates in the past.

b. Interview With Jason Miyares (Attorney General, VA)

• Personal Reactions to Jones’ Comments ([31:53]–[36:25]):

  • Miyares expresses his shock and grief as both a public servant and a colleague familiar with the people targeted by Jones’ rhetoric.
    • Quote: "When you've met with a mother that has lost their child to a violent crime, there is no cry like the cry of a mother that has lost a child." — Jason Miyares ([36:25])
  • Emphasizes how dangerous it is for someone with Jones’ apparent worldview to wield prosecutorial power.

• Character, Duty, & Real World Stakes ([37:45]–[41:08]):

  • Miyares discusses the essential impartiality expected of the AG role, contrasting his law enforcement philosophy against what Jones claims and admits fearing.
    • “Could we get justice with this guy as the lawman of Virginia? Of course not.” — Michael Duncan & Josh Holmes ([38:14]-[38:33])

• Broader Cultural Observations ([41:08]–[48:20]):

  • Miyares describes his immigrant family’s gratitude for the American system, warning about the dangers of excusing violence for political ends.
    • “We decided a long time ago we're going to settle our differences at the ballot box, not with bullets...” — Jason Miyares ([38:37])

• Policy Achievements & Obstacles ([49:41]–[52:00]):

  • Discusses his record on reducing crime through Operation Cease Fire and highlights Democratic legislators obstructing crime reduction efforts despite empirical success.

• Exposé of Jay Jones' Other Controversies ([53:19]–[56:41]):

  • Details on Jones' reckless driving incident and possible misuse of “community service” for personal political benefit.
    • Quote: "Half of which was for the NAACP, half of which was for his own PAC." — Jason Miyares ([55:10])

• Partisanship vs. Professionalism ([57:50]–[59:51]):

  • The office of Virginia’s Attorney General is described as fundamentally nonpartisan in daily responsibilities, despite political pressures.
  • Miyares stresses the need for presence, humility, and a victim-first mentality.

• Final Reflection: Calls for Decency ([61:06]–[62:34]):

  • Both hosts and guest frame the race as a crossroads for American civic values.
    • Quote: “If you want to make sure decency stays alive in our politics, even if you're not a Virginia voter... stanwithjason.com” — Jason Miyares ([61:45])
  • Miyares closes with a poignant reminder: “If you go to Arlington National Cemetery and you walk among those crosses and the Stars of Davids, there's not an R or a D next to anyone's name.”

3. Lighter Segments, Listener Interaction, and Signature Games

• "Top Three Craziest Democrats" Contest ([62:42]–[64:27]):
  • Inspired by the episode’s recurring theme, listeners are asked to submit their nominations for the three "craziest" Democrats and why.
• Listener Comments ([64:04]–[66:24]):
  • Read and riff on humorous suggestions for how to "handle" blue cities gone wrong.
  • Notable responses include turning cities into Hunger Games-style contests or closed-off "Escape from New York" zones.
• King of the Hill (Signature Twitter Game) ([66:36]–[73:55]):
  • Bill Kristol (Holmes' pick) defeats Adam Kinzinger (Smug's pick) with especially egregious anti-Trump/Democratic-Party-pushing tweets, showing Kristol’s transformation from conservative leader to left-flanking Democratic critic.
    • Quote: “He’s like, I want more!” – Josh Holmes on Kristol ([72:46])
  • Memorable Moment: “Number one goes to Kristol.” – Michael Duncan, judge ([71:33])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "This is somebody who is just character, integrity, what you want in not only law enforcement, but some kind of representation, whatever it is, does it for the right reason, has the right perspective. Guy gets it up and down." — Josh Holmes on Jason Miyares ([02:58])
• "She did block out the moon." — Josh Holmes, roasting Katie Porter’s Batman costume ([07:37])
• “We like to call her mashed potatoes and crazy.” — John Ashbrook ([10:18])
• “It's one thing to enforce laws and rules. It's another to do it gleefully and celebrate the suffering of someone born into poverty and desperation.” — Adam Kinzinger (quoted by Smug in King of the Hill, [71:36])
• “I have never found a difference of opinion in politics, philosophy or religion as cause to withdraw from a friend.” — Jason Miyares quoting Thomas Jefferson ([38:37])
• “If someone says who they are, believe them.” — Jason Miyares ([34:48])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Katie Porter meltdown and media segment: [04:41]–[13:58]
• Discussion on left-wing violence and rhetoric: [14:29]–[20:10]
• Jay Jones controversy, Dems’ non-response: [22:58]–[29:44]
• Interview with Jason Miyares: [31:13]–[61:06]
• Listener comments and “Top 3 Craziest Dems” prompt: [62:42]–[64:27]
• King of the Hill game: [66:36]–[73:55]

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Episode Tone & Style

• Language: Direct, irreverent, often sarcastic; hosts use both humor and grave concern when warranted.
• Approach: Alternates between banter/mockery and genuine worry about deterioration of basic civic norms.
• Guest Interview: Earnest, respectful, providing context and urgency.

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Takeaways for New Listeners

• This episode presents a conservative critique of perceived left-wing extremism, both in rhetoric and policy.
• The Virginia AG race featuring Jason Miyares is framed as a microcosm for national questions about political decency, violence, and partisanship.
• Through examples, the hosts argue that Democratic leaders are increasingly unwilling to police their own extremes, with potentially severe ramifications for American society.
• Listener engagement and satirical games provide comedic relief but circle back to the episode’s serious theme: the urgent need for standards and character in public life.

Transcript

[John Ashbrook]

Dude, this woman has a volcanic temper.

[Michael Duncan]

Yes, yes, yes.

[John Ashbrook]

And it is.

[Josh Holmes]

What it's a reminder of is mental illness that pervades deeply into the progressive Democratic Party.

[Smug]

There's a level of darkness right beneath the surface. Like, you hear these stories that she burned her, like, husband's scalp with mashed potatoes.

[Michael Duncan]

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[Jason Miyares]

Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please.

[Smug]

Keep the fate, hold the line and own the lids.

[John Ashbrook]

It's time for our main event.

[Josh Holmes]

Good, good Thursday to you. Welcome back to the Ruthless Variety Program. My name is Josh Holmes, along with comfortably smug Michael Duncan and John Ash Brook. A full cast and crew left to right across your radio dial. We're gonna get into a lot here in this show. There's next level crazy going on all over the place, and we're gonna have some fun with it. A lot of yucks. I will say at the outset. We have a guest today, Jason Miarez. If you haven't heard of him, he's the Attorney General for the Commonwealth of Virginia. You've probably seen a little bit about his race because the guy that's running against him is a certifiable lunatic. This is somebody who, in my mind is the worst part and most emblematic of the radical progressive left that now controls the Democratic Party. Yes. And we're going to cover some of this. So I don't want to get into all the details of it off topic, but I will say the reason you should listen to him is not really because of all of that. We cover it. If you listen to him, it's the perfect juxtaposition to that.

[Smug]

Yep.

[Josh Holmes]

This is somebody who is just character, integrity, what you want in not only law enforcement, but some kind of representation, whatever it is, does it for the right reason, has the right perspective. Guy gets it up and down. He is like the future. If you ever get despair about politics in America and whether a next generation can lead us to, you know, the previous heights that this country has been about, listen to that interview. Just listen to it. And I think you'll come away with like, nah, that's a guy we gotta. That's a guy we gotta keep our eye on. We gotta help. We gotta do whatever we can. That's my takeaway. And I don't say that a lot.

[Smug]

No.

[Josh Holmes]

We have guests, like, three times a week on this show, and I love them all, but sometimes you're like, hmm, that hits you a little different on the other side of the coin. My goodness gracious.

[Michael Duncan]

This is gonna be a great show.

[Josh Holmes]

I think we're still shut down. Government's still shut down. Chuck Schumer. At some point, Republicans are trying to figure out how to give him the little pilot's wings. You know, the plastic pilot's wing.

[Michael Duncan]

I keep saying giant metal.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. And, like, just pat him on the. You're so smart. You're such a good boy. You just did so great, Chuck. And, like, maybe that'll reopen the government, because he's not gonna get anything out of it. But it is. Anyway, we're not gonna belabor the point. That's an ongoing discussion. We are gonna talk about how insane these Democrats have gone. If you haven't seen the Katie Porter stuff, ooh, you're missing out. But you're not going to miss out any longer because here it comes. Clip one, please.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

What do you say to the 40% of California voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted for Trump?

[Katie Porter]

How would I need them in order to win, ma'?

[Jason Miyares]

Am?

[Reporter/Interviewer]

Well, unless you think you're going to get 60% of the vote. You think you'll get 60%?

[Jason Miyares]

All.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

Everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.

[Katie Porter]

That's what you're in a general election.

[Josh Holmes]

Yes.

[Katie Porter]

If it is me versus a Republican, I think that I will win. The people who did not vote for Trump.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

What if it's you versus another Democrat?

[Katie Porter]

I don't intend that to be the case.

[Smug]

Oh, yeah.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

So how do you not intend that to be the case? Do you, are you going to ask them not to run?

[Katie Porter]

No, no, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I have the support already in terms of name recognition. And so I'm going to do the very best I can to make sure that we get through this primary in a really strong position. But let me be clear with you. I represented Orange County, I represented a purple area. I have stood on my own two feet and won Republican votes before, feels disson. Every candidate in this race, if you're from a blue area, if you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you haven't, you don't have an experience.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

You just said you don't need those Trump voters. And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think you need any of those 40% of California voters to win? And you're saying no, you don't?

[Katie Porter]

No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

That, well, to those voters. Okay, so, so you, I don't want.

[Katie Porter]

To keep doing this. I'm going to call it.

[Jason Miyares]

Calls it.

[Smug]

You can't figure out where the mic is?

[Katie Porter]

Nope, not like this I'm not. Not with seven follow ups to every single question. I don't care. I don't care. I, I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you ask me about every issue.

[Smug]

That's the purpose of the media.

[Katie Porter]

Every question you're going to make up a follow up question, then we're never going to get there and we're just going to circle around. I've never had to do this before.

[Smug]

I've never had.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

You've never had to have conversation to end an interview. Okay, why don't we go through. I will continue to ask follow up questions.

[Smug]

I like that she kept her there.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

As a journalist, but I will go through and ask these and if you don't want to answer, you don't want to answer. So nearly every legislative.

[Katie Porter]

I don't want to have an unhappy experience.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, it's an unhappy experience.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.

[Jason Miyares]

I would love to continue to ask.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

These questions so that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels about every one of these issues that they care about. And redistricting, it's a massive issue. We're gonna do an entire story just on the responses to that question. And I've asked everybody the same follow up questions.

[Josh Holmes]

So I like, I've wrestled with this a little bit because she's clearly unprepared to deal with anyone who asks serious questions, as is the case with a lot of California Democrats. But I'm guessing that that is the case because she's just so unbelievably attractive.

[John Ashbrook]

I don't know if we have the picture in the system, but she once dressed up as Batman in Congress and she was caught in the hallway and then she conducted a hearing dressed as Batman. Yeah. And the outfit was not flattering.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, the only thing that's similar to Batman is she did block out the moon.

[John Ashbrook]

She did.

[Josh Holmes]

No question about that.

[Michael Duncan]

Well, I would say. And like God bless that reporter for doing her job and doing it under duress next to Katy Porter, but what an indictment on journalism writ large.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

That it's such a rare occurrence that a politician like that has to answer a follow up question. And you would think that they had her under the bright lights and they were waterboarding her at Guantanamo Bay.

[Josh Holmes]

Did you hear the question?

[Michael Duncan]

I have never, I have never had to do this and an interview.

[Josh Holmes]

Did you hear the question that wrapped her around the axle whether she was going to compete for Republican votes? Right, that's it. That's the question she couldn't handle.

[Michael Duncan]

She couldn't handle it.

[John Ashbrook]

Can't you just say yes?

[Jason Miyares]

I don't know.

[Smug]

That's the thing. So I mean, yes, her meltdown was great, but the admission that she doesn't care, I mean, because ostensibly she's going to represent everybody, but 40% she straight up writes off as like, I am indifferent to those. I don't need them, I don't care about them.

[Michael Duncan]

So here's the thing, and it's interesting and I'm sure all of us could pick out an experience in working in political campaigns that this is the case. One of the most dangerous things a politician can do is start to play political quarterback in their own race. It's a very difficult thing because then they use a different part of their brain and they start talking about mathematics and things like that. And a candidate should never do that. One of the times that comes to mind from recent history is Claire McCaskill would typically do this. And it's one of the things where you think you're super smart and so you want to talk like you're a political operative rather than the politician. And she's like, oh, well, you know, we can lose a lot of votes down there in the boot. And it's like you never want to talk that way.

[Josh Holmes]

All you did is tell the boot you're not important.

[Michael Duncan]

Right and it's the most dangerous thing a politician can do is look when you ask a question of like, well, you know, 40% still voted for Donald Trump and how are you going to represent them sort of thing. And they're like, well, they don't matter because of math. And it's like, what the fuck is your problem? Are you a robot or are you gonna represent me?

[Josh Holmes]

But she's also clinically insane.

[John Ashbrook]

She, dude, this woman has a volcanic temper.

[Michael Duncan]

Yes, yes, yes.

[John Ashbrook]

And it is. She's infamous for this. And one of the reasons why I love this clip so much is because everybody got to see a little taste of what her ex husband sounded like he lived with, according to their divorce filing. I don't know if you guys have ever read that. I read it start to finish. She dumped boiling mashed potatoes on the guy's head.

[Smug]

It's insane. He got burned, boy.

[Jason Miyares]

He did mashed potatoes.

[John Ashbrook]

We like to call her mashed potatoes and crazy.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. Is that okay? Clip 2 Do we have a little like preview of some of this? Because I feel like it's not just the husband, it's like her daughter. And like anyone who's ever surrounded her.

[John Ashbrook]

Let's hear it.

[Josh Holmes]

Basically has the same experience as this poor reporter.

[Katie Porter]

Clip 2 so on election night, I was with, I went to pick up my daughter from water polo practice and she's 12. And she got in the car and she was crying and I said, did someone punch you? Like, water polo is a rough sport. I was like, did someone hit you? Did the coach yell at you? What happened? And she said, mom, Trump won. Trump's gonna win. And what if I get raped and I need to have an abortion? This is from a 12 year old, my 12 year old daughter. And so it was really a reminder of how scary this time is for people and how important it is for Democrats to have strategies both at the state level and the federal level to make sure that we can continue to protect people's rights.

[Josh Holmes]

Let me what it's a reminder of is mental illness that pervades deeply into the progressive Democratic party. If, and I doubt that's true, but if that is true, she has raised a 12 year old daughter to the first thing that they think about when there is an election about being raped.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. What a failure as a parent.

[Jason Miyares]

It's crazy.

[Josh Holmes]

What a horrible failure.

[John Ashbrook]

It's crazy. And I won't get too deeply into the divorce filings, but if you want to read it for yourself, I encourage you to check it out.

[Josh Holmes]

Avail yourself.

[Michael Duncan]

Why won't you avail yourself because she's.

[John Ashbrook]

Always so concerned about the children. According to the divorce filing, there was a moment when she yelled at her husband, keep them away from me. Why don't you get them away from me? These kids. One of her kids was coming up to her and like there were dishes that were unclean in the house and she busted a coffee pot over the counter and she hit her husband with it. So this is, this is, this is.

[Josh Holmes]

A. I blame him on that though. What kind of judgment do you have to marry something like that? Well, I'd rather sleep with the potatoes.

[John Ashbrook]

I'm sure he, you know, after, after everything, after everything you'll read in this filing, he's probably thinking the exact same.

[Michael Duncan]

Can I point one other thing out here that I find interesting is like, you know, if you're on audio only, I mean, you should also go to YouTube and you subscribe so you can see this in video. But what's, I think what's fascinating about it is that is like top rope, like dem leftist talking point. And she's doing it on a local news broadcast. It wasn't like primetime MSNBC where everybody's lost their mind.

[Josh Holmes]

No, these guys are like, tell me about your day.

[Michael Duncan]

She's like, rap, rape. My 12 year old wants to know if she can get an abortion, which, like, I think is a lie. I think she totally made that entire thing up. Like none of that is real.

[John Ashbrook]

Probably a lie.

[Michael Duncan]

I really don't think that's real. But to do that on like a local news show, it's like, that's jarring. That's a jarring thing to do a jarring.

[Josh Holmes]

So she's the front runner for governor of California.

[Jason Miyares]

What a wonderful state.

[Michael Duncan]

So you can begin to see some.

[Josh Holmes]

Of our anxiety when it comes to later in the show, Jason Miarez, where there is more Democrats than there are Republicans. If you can stand by a woman like that, you just hope that sanity will prevail in other states across this country.

[John Ashbrook]

Everything about her is calculated. Everything. She knew that the divorce filing was out there, so she pre sold the story to Huffington Post before she ran for Congress the first time. She is the most calculated person in politics. She pretends like, oh, I grew up on a farm in Iowa and I'm from, from the. She went to Phillips Exeter, she went to Harvard.

[Jason Miyares]

Leverage.

[Michael Duncan]

No leverage there.

[Josh Holmes]

You need a lot of leverage if you're trying to get her into the rack, I'll tell you that much.

[Jason Miyares]

Wow.

[John Ashbrook]

Right back at it. You know who her professor was in Law school. Elizabeth Warren?

[Michael Duncan]

No.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, that makes so much sense.

[John Ashbrook]

She's an Elizabeth Warren acolyte.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

And that's why when she came to Washington, she was so protected by this left wing shell, nobody would go after her.

[Michael Duncan]

Why is she so annoying?

[Josh Holmes]

She's got a grand plan for everything other than taking a lap around the block every once in a while, which is apparently alluded to her. Here's another genius. Clip three is Jeff Merkley, a senator from Oregon. They got trouble. Listen to his take.

[Jason Miyares]

Protesters are peaceful, but they have videographers behind them. And then they start throwing down pepper balls and tear gas to film it, to try to create the impression of chaos where there wasn't chaos. It's Trump creating the chaos because he wants violence and chaos to justify more authoritarian power.

[Michael Duncan]

This incredibly perilous moment for our nation.

[Josh Holmes]

So it feels like Portland, Oregon is second only to like the west bank in terms of just this prolonged violence that just has no solution whatsoever. I mean, I've been reading about antifa or protests or violent things from leftist psychopaths in Portland, I think as long as I could read. And now this guy is suggesting that somehow Trump has invented that and he is the one that is causing the violence.

[John Ashbrook]

Such a good point.

[Josh Holmes]

In order for him to amplify his message that there are problems in the cities, like, did Donald Trump ask for this? Like, what possible motivation? Think about how mind fucked those people have to be. What possible motivation would someone have to go into a city where you're going to fight political resistance in a place that doesn't have problems? Yeah, what's the upside to that?

[Michael Duncan]

But isn't this the logical conclusion of the whole thing? And we've talked about it previously on the show. There was a moment in 2020 with the riots in Minneapolis that Democrats started talking about antifa being outside forces.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, yes.

[Michael Duncan]

Maybe foreign actors getting involved.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, first they denied their existence altogether.

[Jason Miyares]

Right.

[Michael Duncan]

It was denied. And then it was an idea, it wasn' an actual thing. And then it was. Maybe foreign actors were behind antifa and that's the reason why Minneapolis was burning.

[Josh Holmes]

They've been just dragged into this.

[Michael Duncan]

And now the logical conclusion is Donald Trump invented antifa. Yes, he created it.

[Josh Holmes]

He's the one that's causing the violence.

[Michael Duncan]

It's like when you get robbed on the street, it's because you had your purse. It's not that there are criminals out there.

[Josh Holmes]

Smuggles. You always have a hot take on violence.

[Smug]

Well, I think it's very indicative. There's that saying that people who can make you believe absurdities can get you to commit atrocities. And that's what we're seeing right before our eyes. The guy is complete, absolute lie that Trump is filming and creating riots and chaos. Abject lie.

[Josh Holmes]

We've taken dark place.

[Smug]

Well, he's covering for the endless amounts of leftist violence that we've seen. How many times have they attempted to assassinate President Trump? How many times have we heard about them rioting like this? They spent an entire summer rioting. We see this endless cycle of violence from them. We've seen candidates now that are openly expressing that they want to murder Republicans and see their children murdered in their mother's arms. That's all been normalized. That's all been normalized.

[Josh Holmes]

And they're not losing support from United States senators of their own party.

[John Ashbrook]

That's crazy.

[Josh Holmes]

We're gonna cover all that. But you're right. I agree with all of that. I do like that you're in the dark place today. Let's keep going. Yeah, let's go darker. Okay, so let's do clip four. This is the View. The gals of the View. Oh, it's a very sensible.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

There is crime in American cities, but.

[Jason Miyares]

The way to deal with it is.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

Get the funding that you need for police, get the training that you need, and work with local officials.

[Jason Miyares]

This is a pretext to stop the next election.

[Reporter/Interviewer]

That's what.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, my God.

[Michael Duncan]

That was an awesome jump.

[Smug]

Amazing jump. Amazing jump.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. Didn't even say no.

[Smug]

Here's the thing. Not even. There's no attempt to even try to transition topics. He's trying to stop the next election, folks.

[John Ashbrook]

Full Fosberry flop.

[Michael Duncan]

Well, it makes you wonder, though, with all this rhetoric on the left that he's going to stop the midterm election or whatever. Donald Trump's a fascist. Right? Like the idea that you could shut down the government because you want to have a debate about a subsidies for the Affordable Care act that wasn't affordable or whatever feels like such small ball. Like, if you actually believe that Donald Trump is a fascist, like, wouldn't you shut down the government forever?

[Josh Holmes]

Well, I mean, there is a good portion of the Democratic. But don't give no ideas.

[Michael Duncan]

Well, I guess my point, people's livelihoods.

[Josh Holmes]

Do depend on veterans, for example.

[Michael Duncan]

I guess just my whole point in this is they don't actually believe any of this.

[Smug]

They don't.

[Jason Miyares]

Right.

[Michael Duncan]

They don't believe any of this.

[John Ashbrook]

Performative.

[Michael Duncan]

Like Donald Trump, you know, they attempted to assassinate him and they were giving their thoughts and prayers for a guy that they would say on any other day as a fascist, like none of this is real.

[John Ashbrook]

I think the problem comes when their supporters actually believe it. You know, the Joy Behars and the Dem politicians of the world are just saying their lives and saying their lives. But like these lunatic left wing people who are isolated out there and then carry out horrible atrocities because they hear something like that on television or they hear people say the Republicans are Nazis or like that is a very, very, very big problem in society. Huge.

[Josh Holmes]

If you were stuck in a room and you had to take one person home and it was Katie Porter, Joy Behar or Jeff Merkley, who you fellas leaving with.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, dude, that is tough.

[Smug]

I mean Katie Porter, she's an enforcer. Like she's built for violence.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, but you're gonna get up.

[Smug]

No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.

[Josh Holmes]

You're just gonna po.

[Smug]

She's like a coiled up pit bull. You just point them at a target.

[Jason Miyares]

Right?

[Smug]

Like when she was talking to that reporter and she was like, I'm not gonna have an unpleasant experience. Like that is someone. There's a, there's a level of darkness right beneath the surface. Like you hear these stories where she burned her like husband's scalp with mashed potatoes and is like breaking dishes and shit.

[Josh Holmes]

Hold on. That's what you like.

[Smug]

I want to unleash that violence somewhere.

[Josh Holmes]

Dude, I think you're nailing a bit more.

[Smug]

No, you take her to one of these like protest that's going on with us. I mean she's in a primary going after Dems face to face. She's ready for her own violence. Right. She's going to commit atrocities herself. The way that she pushed back on that reporter. If cameras weren't running, I wouldn't be surprised if she broke a dish on the reporter's head.

[Jason Miyares]

Right?

[John Ashbrook]

She was asking her staff for a dish.

[Smug]

I mean you take her to one of these antifa riots, she's gonna go after anybody. Like pit bulls, same thing. They can go off at any moment.

[John Ashbrook]

I think I'd say Joy Behar because she's just gonna sit there like a lug and talk and talk and talk and I can tune her out.

[Josh Holmes]

You can go to the other room.

[John Ashbrook]

I can just go to the other room or play music in my head. I was not listening.

[Michael Duncan]

I would just. Seppuku. That's. That's it.

[Josh Holmes]

The answer is Jeff Merkley.

[Michael Duncan]

Next up.

[Josh Holmes]

The old McLaughlin Group. Coming up, the crazy train turns right through the Commonwealth of Virginia. That's the next election. That's up with New Jersey. Both of them are worth watching, but this one is worth watching in our view, because it is indicative of a much larger national trend, one that could be absolutely terrifying to all of you if this guy doesn't win. We're going to talk about what set up this race right after this.

[Michael Duncan]

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[Smug]

It's insanity.

[Josh Holmes]

I can't like his description. I just can't like a clinically detached point of view. And I think Jason does a better job than me at explaining what that is. But my point is, is that they go to the Virginia, the statesman of Virginia, the longest serving oldest members of the delegation, two United States Senators, Tim Kaine. He was once a vice presidential candidate and fashions himself as some kind of a, if not a moderate politically, certainly from a tone perspective, a more moderate a statesman. Yeah, right. He'll call balls and strikes. That's what he models.

[John Ashbrook]

Remember when he first ran, he sought Republican votes by selling himself as a former missionary who is trying to be above politics.

[Josh Holmes]

Yes.

[John Ashbrook]

And to be a statesman. He totally sold himself as that. And what he's devolved himself into is just unrecognizable.

[Josh Holmes]

So naturally they ask him about this Jay Jones story. Indefensible comments. What does he say? Clip 5 Senator, do you still support Jay Johnson?

[Jason Miyares]

You do?

[Josh Holmes]

What? Do you, do you think you should drop out of this race after those comments? I just answered your question. You have concerns about what you saw? Nope. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see here. There's a guy who fashions himself as his ability to talk across the aisle. And here's a guy who, in this current environment, not a month removed from Charlie Kirk's assassination, there is a candidate on the Democratic ticket who is wishing to kill the children of his political opponent. Then the speaker of the House and his he's standing right by him.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah, I think what's interesting here, and we've talked about this a lot on the show with all the violence and the riots and, you know, we talked about Portland here today and stuff and it's like, how did we get here? Soros prosecutors and all these sorts of things and all the institutional power of the left through the NGOs and all of these things that we've always talked about. And they get these people elected and they basically let criminals out of prison and they don't enforce law and order. And us now doing this show, we get to see the after effects of that. And then we talk about it and how terrible it is. What strikes me now, and having talked to Jason, is like, we're at a moment now where we can stop it. We can stop it here in Virginia.

[Josh Holmes]

Sends a valuable message across the country that shit's not gonna be done.

[Michael Duncan]

We've done this show now, I think, for five years, and I've never like jumped to the front of an interview to tell you as the listener and viewer how important this thing is. It's like you don't get an you can't complain about things unless you do something about them.

[Jason Miyares]

Totally.

[Michael Duncan]

And, and go to his website, go to standwithjason.com, donate, volunteer, do something about it, because we can't lose another state here in the country to this left wing bullshit and then complain about it later.

[Josh Holmes]

And I don't care if you're from Virginia or not. This is what's happening in your home state. And what they're going to see and take as a lesson from the only nationally recognized election in an off year, 2025, is that it doesn't matter what you do as a Democrat, you can be the most morally vacant, horrible individual of all time. And as long as every Democrat sees that you're nominated for the office, they're gonna stand right with you and you're gonna win. And that is, I can't tell you how damaging that is. That is, that is just. We've literally never done it in the Republican Party. I mean, never. We've been a part of some of them. Remember, like Roy Moore?

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah, right.

[Josh Holmes]

I mean, like, when you find somebody who A can't do the job, B is morally and from a character standpoint, unable to do the job, it is your obligation at some level to walk away. And Democrats are saying right now, nope, no, we care more about the violence. We care more about the grassroots.

[John Ashbrook]

I think, just to be specific, you know, a lot of people are on Twitter. A lot of people have seen the texts that Jay Jones wrote, but I think we should read them just so that people can know exactly what he said and how depraved his comments were. So he starts by saying, so first of all, he's going back and forth with another lawmaker who's a Republican. And the lawmaker's like, hey, do you really mean that? What are you, what are you doing? He said, I mean, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they're breeding little fascists? Yes. And the guy responds, they say nice things about everyone. Lol. Jay Jones, the Democrat responds, if those guys die before me, I will go to their funerals to piss on their graves, send them out a wash in something. The guy, the Republican responds, Jay Jones. J. Jones responds further, three people, two bullets. Gilbert. Who's the Republican? Hitler and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. Spoiler put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know. And he receives both bullets every time. Why? Because this guy Gilbert said something nice about a moderate Democrat who Jay Jones evidently didn't like. Think about that.

[Josh Holmes]

It's, it's, it's unhinged. And this person is trying to be the chief law enforcement officer for a massive state, a state that abuts up against the nation's capital. So that is the good context. Even CNN has got a problem with this whole thing. Clip 7 and there have only been.

[John Ashbrook]

More and more comments and criticisms.

[Smug]

Mourning Joe, of all people, saying he.

[Jason Miyares]

Should probably get out of the race. Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Tough position. It really is a tough position for Democrats, too. I mean, Democrats are. You know, you have Mark Warner, ab, Miguel Spamberger saying that they were criticize it, but they haven't called on him to drop out.

[Jason Miyares]

Right?

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

I mean, when CNN is convening the panel being like, hey, you ought to do something about this. Like, you think about how high that bar is, right?

[Jason Miyares]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

I mean, it's only moral courage when you have something to lose. Right. And like, nobody on that panel who's a journalist has anything to lose. And I'm glad that they're talking about it and everything, but, like, where's the Democrat you have on that panel where they have to answer for it Nowhere.

[Jason Miyares]

No.

[Josh Holmes]

And they wouldn't do it.

[Michael Duncan]

And they would never do it.

[John Ashbrook]

They would never do it.

[Michael Duncan]

They're gonna bunker down here to election day and talk about, oh, well, you know, everybody sends some texts that they wish they didn't send. And it's like, well, I mean, I don't have a text where I was like, I want my political opponent's children to die in their mother's arms. I just don't.

[John Ashbrook]

No, no.

[Josh Holmes]

But that's why this whole thing is important, because it does affect you in any state that you live in across this country, in that it is the moral compass of the Democratic Party right now. And if they get away with it, they will get away with it everywhere. And what you will have is a bunch of complete sociopaths running on the Democratic side, where the only lesson is you don't apologize for a damn thing. And you certainly don't condemn violence. And all of it's good with you as long as you win. This guy explains it better than anyone. Attorney General Jason Miaras. Well, our next guest is a guy you're gonna have to hear from because his opponent has been in the news. This is a critical election, and I can say firsthand, I'm not sure there's a more important one that's coming up. Like this thing. If Jason Miyares, the Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Virginia, does not somehow win this thing, I don't know what it says about our country. I don't know what it says about Virginia. I don't know what it says about the Democratic Party. He's done everything right as AG and now he's rowing against a lunatic. My words, not yours. But he is a lunatic, and we've covered all of this. Welcome to the show, sir.

[Jason Miyares]

Great to be with you all. It's a Kind of a joy. I've listened to you all for a number of years and it's. I get major cool points with my kids by being on. So thank you all. I look way cooler than I normally do.

[Josh Holmes]

I appreciate that. The first time we talked to you was right after your grand victory in 21 and, and then we've watched what it is that you've been up to as Attorney General. Done your job, done it well in a Virginia that greatly needed leadership in the law enforcement side. And so, you know, what do you get? You get a well funded Democratic opponent who wants to throw all that out of the window, which is where it started. And now we found over the last couple of weeks this guy's pretty sick.

[Jason Miyares]

Well, I mean, this is what I would say is the Attorney General, you're the top prosecutor in the state. Your job is to stop violence. I can't imagine somebody running for this office that has actually advocated for violence. And I think the thing that has shocked me the most is obviously the text messages and describing that he'd want to see Jennifer Gilbert's children die in her arms. This was not hypothetical. I served in the General assembly prior to being Attorney General with Todd and Jay. These are not strangers. He's met Jennifer Gilbert, Todd's wife. He's seen his children. Todd would bring his kids to the assembly and their ages were 2 and 5 years old at the time these text messages were sent. So I think that's part of why this has had such a impact on me because why would not consider him a friend? I at least knew him. I can imagine what he has also said about me behind closed doors. More importantly, I can't imagine saying that about somebody you've worked with and then a wife that you have met and then small infant children. I can't imagine the worldview and the exchange where he is texted by Kerry Coyner, a colleague, you are hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children die in her arms. And his response is yes, because it's only through pain that changes occur.

[Josh Holmes]

I mean, it's unbelievable.

[Jason Miyares]

So this wasn't a hypothetical. And I think this is one thing a lot of those in the legacy media are missing. These are real people that he actually met, real children that he has seen, that he actually fantasized and talked about in order to advance a political agenda. Not only just Todd Gilbert dying, but his children dying. That has add an extra layer. And when all this blew up on Friday, you know, my team was all like, you got to do a statement. And I said, timeout I need to just process this because I know so well the people involved, particularly Todd, who I consider a friend and his wife. And it just took me a moment. It took my breath away.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

And of course, it's just unthinkable that somebody would text something like that. But then I read to find out, well, what triggered this guy to get so fly off the handle like this? And it was because Gilbert had said something nice about a Democrat who had recently. Recently passed.

[Jason Miyares]

Yeah, yeah. Joe Johnson, a beloved legislator from Southwest Virginia, longtime Democrat, very universally respected on both sides of the aisle. And he was angry that Todd had said glowing remarks about his service. In fact, his response was that he wanted to piss on the grave of his political opponents. So that's what triggered this. That triggered this long mantra. And that's why I find ultimately, you know, his apology is a fake apology.

[Josh Holmes]

If it's even an apology.

[Jason Miyares]

Right. Frankly, I mean, if you look at the timeframe and Audrey from the National Review has laid it out. I saw an interview with her where she said she reached out to the Jones campaign at 8:30 that morning, repeatedly asked him for comment. They refused. She said he had a deadline, 11. She actually didn't publish till about 1. And then shortly after that, his statement. If you go back and look, his first statement, the words I'm sorry are not in that statement. No. He said, we all send regret text messages we regret. And then he attacked me and he attacked the president. Yup. And then it wasn't until she noted 8:30 that night that he finally issued the subsequent apology where he tried to apologize and deeply regretful. But if someone says who they are, believe them. Because he was called out contemporaneously when it happened, he doubled down. It was after he told. He was told this is inappropriate, that he talked about violence against children, that he was given an additional time. So it took him 12 hours. That's why I find this such a. To your point, I think it's a test of what is the basic standard of decency are we going to have in our country right now and in our politics?

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, totally. Right. I mean, look, you're the chief law enforcement officer for Virginia. You encounter unspeakable things. Oh, my gosh, you know, things that we don't like to talk about in public. What you don't expect is somebody who's seeking to replace you having the mentality of the worst things that you've encountered in the job. I mean, that's gotta. I understand why you would have to process this.

[Jason Miyares]

Well, Listen, I mean. But early in my career, I was a prosecutor back home in Virginia beach. And then in this role, you're the top prosecutor. I had never once a single asked any victim of crime whether they're Republican or Democrat. That's never even crossed my mind. And when you meet with victims, part of why this has so been difficult for me as well is in the nature of this job. You realize death is final, number one. And early in my career, when I was. When I was in the Commons attorney's office, I sat through an autopsy of a minor child that died from a gunshot wound in the head. That immediately came to mind. And anybody that has been in law enforcement would tell you when you say you could smell death and that there's such a finality to it, obviously, I'm a person of faith as well, so I know that's not the only aspect, but there's such a finality to it as far as on this earth. And when you've met with a mother that has lost their child to a violent crime, there is no cry like the cry of a mother that has lost a child. No kidding. And that tells me he's never. He's. He's applying to be the top prosecutor. He's never been a prosecutor and tells me he's never once sat with victims and heard the utter anguish. And then to fantasize and talk about hoping that children would die, I think just as solely unqualified for being this role, which I say is the people's protector, protecting all Virginians. No matter what your political background, I view that as my role.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah, yeah. That's what really struck me in this, was the banality of it, that he could so easily talk about something like that. And to your point, the guy's not a prosecutor, and he can talk about violence like that against children so easily. And it makes me wonder, as a voter in Virginia, and we all are in the aftermath of everything with Charlie Kirk, if, heaven forbid, something were to happen to one of us, could we get justice with this guy as the lawman of Virginia?

[Josh Holmes]

Of course not. Of course not.

[Michael Duncan]

And like, you know, I have to imagine every voter of Virginia has to be thinking that now, if they're a Republican, it's like, if I have a Trump sign in my yard, am I going to get justice? Because they're going to weaponize the legal system against people like me? Because this person who's ag now fantasizes about the murder of Republicans.

[Josh Holmes]

Somehow less than human because of your political affiliation.

[Jason Miyares]

That's. Listen I have a sign in my office that is. I say it every time I walk to my desk. It's one of my favorite quotes from Thomas Jefferson. And it says this. I have never found a difference of opinion in politics, philosophy or religion as cause to withdraw from a friend. And I have it there just to remind me that even if I disagree with somebody on politics, that's not a reason for me to deny them their friendship. That's my mindset. I can't imagine the mindset of someone who serves with somebody, has met the wife, has seen the children, to then imagine in their minds their death, a violent death. I can't imagine that. And I think to your point, it, you know, if you know my family story, my family fled Cuba, the Miar. When I travel around Virginia, sometimes people ask me, like, what kind of name is. I like to say, well, it's a, it's a Southern name. It's a really deep south, real south. But it gives you a perspective, Perspective. You know, I tell my daughters all the time that gratitude is the most underrated of human traits. And ingratitude is the most, is the ugliest, but gratitude's the most underrated. I was raised with such incredible gratitude being in this country by what we have. I call it the American miracle. But my uncle Angel Miyares was arrested at Bay of Pigs. During the Bay of Pigs invasion, Castro arrested anybody that could rise up. And he was taken in the middle of the night right in front of my mother by Castro's police. He was taken to an empty baseball stadium and he went through the humiliation of a mock execution. And his crime was simply that he had the wrong ideas, that he was handing out anti Castro leaflets in Havana. And when you think that individual dignity doesn't matter more than your idea, you know, C.S. lewis said, of all the tyrannies in the world, the worst tyrannies are the tyrannies done for your own good. In other words, ideas matter more than people. And this idea that we are going to reshape society in a violent way in order to achieve a greater good, that is a slippery, slippery slope. And so I was always raised to. And in this country, obviously we've had some difficult chapters in our nation, but we decided a long time ago we're going to settle our differences at the ballot box, not with bullets. I think that's why the Charlie Kirk assassination resonated with horror with so many people. We still have just for your listeners and know we still have right now, after the Charlie Kirk assassination, the chairwoman of the largest suburban district of Richmond, Chesterfield county, when that happened, said, I'm sorry, I thought we were supposed to celebrate when you shoot Nazis. Well, she's still in office. She has not resigned. She's still there.

[Josh Holmes]

So I want to talk to you about that, because, look, I grew up in a day and age in politics where it was just as partisan as it is today, but there was a level of decency at some level, and that there were lines you don't cross. And then there were certain character assessments that you made about candidates, regardless of whether they were Republicans or Democrats. When they crossed a line that was so obvious to voters, it didn't really matter if you were wearing a red jersey or a blue jersey. You took a look at it and you were like, I can't have it. I'm gonna disagree with the other guy. I may not even cast a vote, but I'm certainly not gonna support somebody like that. And I think what's most alarming in the wake of Charlie Kirk, in the wake of these comments now made by Jay Jones in your race, is that it seems like an awful lot of Democrats don't give a shit about that at all. In fact, you know, Senator Tim Kaine. Look, I got nothing in common with Tim Kaine other than we were both born in Minnesota, but his viewpoint has always been he comes off moderated, even if he votes to the left. So in dealing with this, he's not a moderate. He's like, yeah, I'm with Jay Jones. I mean, this is the hardest thing, I think, for us who have been involved in politics for a while, to watch what's happening on the left, and we've talked an awful lot about the violence. It's this just basic decency and character evaluation that no longer matters.

[Jason Miyares]

Well, it's also shocking to think about this is the number of them. And I'm almost positive Tim Kaine is. But I know Abigail was. They all asked for Ralph Northam to resign over a yearbook photo from 30 years ago.

[John Ashbrook]

Right.

[Josh Holmes]

And that. I mean, that. That seems like tiddlywinks compared to what we're talking about.

[Jason Miyares]

I mean, and now they're talking about, you know, political violence against. Against their opponents while decrying political violence. That's a little bit of the irony. They've all said that he needs to be held accountable for these text messages, but they never say what that looks like. Right. And so I view it as a real inflection point for them, but also for Virginia and the country. I mean, Virginia is in the shadow of our nation's capital. I think everybody in D.C. is recognizing they'll lower the rhetoric. But then you have a real moment and a real chance of saying, you know what, we're going to really take a stand on principle and set an example. Right now they're not doing it. And I think that's also part of why this is a story that was not a one or two day story. Yeah. This is a story where it says reflection on a larger issue of.

[John Ashbrook]

It's just wild to me that they say we want to hold him accountable and then give him a job he doesn't deserve. It is absolutely wild to me that these elected Democrats continue to stick with this guy. I've noticed, by the way, I don't know if you guys have noticed the same thing driving home at night. I live in Northern Virginia surrounded by Democrats. There were several J. Jones signs out two weeks ago and I have seen some slowly, some of those signs have been picked up and thrown in the garage.

[Josh Holmes]

Interesting.

[Jason Miyares]

Yeah, I've heard that from other areas, too. But that's a greater point and it's something I think if the legacy media would ask some of them if someone was applying to be in your staff, a chief of staff, a senior policy advisor, and it turned out that they had text messages and they had openly called for violence against a political opponent or had fantasized and said they hope children would die, would you still hire them? This had come up in their background check, of course. Well, why then would you then say that Virginians should hire Jay Jones to be the top prosecutor in the Commonwealth of Virginia? And it's not just that, obviously. It has also come out that he told a fellow delegate back in 2020 that he hoped cops would die because that also would be changed.

[Josh Holmes]

That's an interesting law enforcement perspective.

[Jason Miyares]

Well, Fraternal Order Police has come out and said he needs a withdrawal from. From the race. But I will tell you the single hardest part of my job as attorney general is going to what are called end of watch funerals for the fallen. And when you. My first one was Michael Chandler. He was his. It was his birthday. He wasn't supposed to work that day. He took the shift because somebody called in sick and he died on his birthday. And the same pastor that had married him 30 days before was now doing the funeral.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, man.

[Jason Miyares]

And I remember then his cousin, who Michael Chandler from Big Stone Gap, who's also in law enforcement, said Michael loved his job, but he definitely had to carry the burden of the badge. I've Never forgot that. That is. It's the hardest job in America. That is the one thing that I have taken pride in in this office is for our law enforcement guardians in Virginia after they've been demonized, and we were dealing with a lot of low morale, letting them know, hey, I have your back. How in the world can you look in the eyes of law enforcement when you're meeting with them, when you're handling cases with them, knowing that you've also had that attitude as well? And it goes back to this idea that we've seen on the far, far left, that somehow pain is worth it for, quote, unquote, change. And that's exactly what you see in so many autocratic regimes and communist regimes, or this idea that pain is excused. Yeah, yeah, pain is excused. And listen, I have said an inflection point for America in the last modern American history was December 4, 2024. That was the day Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Healthcare, was murdered.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, I kind of agree.

[Jason Miyares]

And think about this statistic. When he died, it wasn't the fact that he was murdered. It was our reaction to it. 48% of America's college students said his murder was just, these are our future leaders, our future lawyers, judges, political reporters, political leaders. And so there's a quote from Plato who said, the two most important questions for a civilization is this. Who teaches the children and what do they teach them? And I think it's just as relevant today as ancient Greece. And again, that goes back again to my sense of both gratitude and when you talking about America, who we are. We are not a broken society. We are the most prosperous nation on the planet. We. We've given more second chances to more people of different faiths, colors and creeds than any country that has ever existed. It is the American miracle. My mother left Cuba in fall of 1965, homeless and penniless. When she got on that airplane, she was 19 years old and did not know where she was going to get her next meal. And almost 50 years. The day that she left, almost 50 years exactly the day she left, in the fall of 2015, she was able to go and cast a ballot for me to represent her in the oldest democracy in the Western Hemisphere, the Virginia General Assembly. And when I call it the American miracle, that is so many of the individuals that come to this country, and that is why. That is why, in my opinion, you're seeing so many, what I call new Americans, those that have done it the right way, become citizens, are shifting towards the gop. Right, because it Used to be both parties talked about America dream. Now one part of the country talked about it as a nightmare. Well, if you fled an autocratic regime or a communist regiment, you know, this is an amazing country. You understand, you know which party you're talking, right? You know which party wants to talk about preserving and expanding opportunities. So I do think this is, this is a real inflection point for Virginia. I think Virginians are going to get it right. Yeah, I'm confident in my, my fellow Virginians, but I do think this is an inflection point for us.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, you're working hard and look, I, I liked your chances before all of this came out. But once it was revealed that this guy is a bona fide lunatic, like, I really do like your chances. But the fact that it's an at all bothers me. It bothers me deeply because it's on one hand, you know, you could see how Democrats make a Hobson's choice at some point when there's like a crazy person that they think is gonna kill them all, right? And another guy, a guy like this, you just listen to him for 15 minutes. Pretty squared away dude, like morals, character, judgment also done the job and has the record of what it is that he's trying to do. So like not only is not it not gonna go to hell in a handbasket, like you're probably in better shape no matter what with this guy, other than somebody who is like a partisan affiliation for you. And yet you still see the hesitation from people like Tim Kaine and that I'm just hung up on that, like I don't understand. I think you're right that they will get it right. And I think people in Northern Virginia in particular that vote in heavy blue numbers, take a look at your character, what it is that you're trying to do and juxtapose that. And I think they're going to make the right decision. But the fact that we have to talk about it bothers me at all. It really does.

[Jason Miyares]

Well, you know, I am proud of the record. I mean, when we took office, our murder rate in Virginia was a 20 year high, 30 year high in violent crime, highest levels of addiction deaths ever recorded. And we had a really novel idea. Why don't we work with law enforcement instead of working against them? And here's the thing as well is you so much of the violence, and this is nationwide, roughly 5% of felons commit over 50% of the violent felony. You go after this small subset. So we launched something in Virginia with Governor Youngkin called Operation Cease Fire. I took prosecutors in my office. We essentially focus on these 13 most violent areas. We went after them. I'll give you an example. City of Roanoke, 0.12% of the population of city of Roanoke. That's less than 1/5 of 1% were committing over 30% of the homicides.

[John Ashbrook]

Wow.

[Jason Miyares]

So you go after the small subset, guess what happens. You have to investigate them, you have to indict them and you have to prosecute them.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Jason Miyares]

City of Roanoke, 62% drop in its.

[Josh Holmes]

Murder rate, is that right?

[Jason Miyares]

Yeah, we've seen that through our ceasefire cities. Just our 13 localities has contributed 66% to the drop overall drop in the murder rate. In Virginia, it's dropped by over a third. So we've seen this remarkable moment. And here's me, this is a little bit of. Even though I served in the legislature, a little naive moment. I thought, wow, I'm a numbers data driven guy. Right? Wow. This is, this is working. This shows this is working. Let's expand it, let's get more money to double the number of localities are going after the small subset of repeat offenders dead on arrival. I was barely luckily through the Democratic Senate to get even appropriate to keep it going even though it was showing that lives are being saved and crime is being dropped. And I thought that was a real, should not have been an eye opening moment for me, but it was.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. Can I ask you about that? Because look, I don't, I think like rank and file Democratic voters who are just taking their kids to softball practice in Northern Virginia and they're Democrats, they vote Democrat or whatever. I don't think they, they have that same thing that you're talking about with a legislature that is basically like, no, we want to protect crime.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. Yeah. How do these legislators in the Democratic Party get so far to the left on crime of their actual voters?

[Josh Holmes]

And I understand you're young, you're kind of like new in the grand scheme of things. Like you're not new in terms of your experience, but in the grand scheme of things, from a partisan perspective, it wasn't that long ago we all agreed that crime was crime and it ought to be prosecuted. That's why we passed the law in the first place.

[Jason Miyares]

Yeah. Until they started paying a political price to, to. They say the only thing you learn from history is nobody learns from history. There is nothing new under the sun. Like there is nothing every single quote, unquote new, innovative social justice reform in the criminal justice world was already tried, folks. It was tried in the 1970s, no cash bail, getting rid of all mandatory minimums, early release of violent offenders. It was tried. It led to a crime explosion. And in the late 80s, early 90s, what did you have? You had troops and sentencing pro abolition. Even Bill Clinton, right? Yeah, Bill Clinton advocated for it. But in Virginia, we had Governor George Allen. Before George Allen took office In Virginia in 1994, the average time you spent in your sentence. The average time was 1/4 of your sentence. So if you got sentenced to 16 years on a rape charge, you're out in four. George Allen did truth and sentencing. You had to serve 85 to 90% of your sentence between 1994 and 2020. Every year the crime rate in Virginia was going down. And then they decided, let's forget history. And they started doing the early release of felons and other social justice. And now what we saw was this uptick that then we had this high murder rate when I came into office as well. So it means you always have to be ever vigilant. It means you have to be ever vigilant because don't ever assume the hard lessons of the past or ever learned.

[Josh Holmes]

Can I ask you about the thing that came out before this horrific revelation was that your opponent, Jay Jones, was doing like 12130 down the freeway. And you know, in any state and the Commonwealth of Virginia, they looked down on that sort of thing. They were a sentence commensurate with endangering public safety the way that he had. So he went through this whole process and, and like the end of the story is that he was sentenced to community service, at which point at least a portion of that was raising money for himself.

[Jason Miyares]

Right. I didn't know that was community service. Holy cow. You'd be. I mean, you'd be world's biggest service hours. Yes. Right. Yeah. I mean, he was going 116 miles on one of the most dangerous stretches of interstates right east of Richmond, New Kent County. At that point, he had turned his vehicle into a two ton cruise missile. He was clocked at mile marker 224 and wasn't stopped until mile marker 227.

[John Ashbrook]

Wow.

[Jason Miyares]

So it was three miles down the road. Four people were in court the day he was sentenced. Three of the four people got either active jail time or suspended jail time. They all got their driver's license suspended. The only person that did not get any either active or suspended jail time and did not get his driver's license and suspended. Of the four people that day in court was Jay Jones. He instead Got to pay a fine and then do 1000 hours of community service. A thousand hours of community service with a 40 hour workweek is about 25 weeks of full time work. Half of which was for the naacp, half of which was for his own pac, his own political action. Going to Meet Our Moment. If you look at the court filings that are now public, the document was a two Senate sequence. Statement from Meet Our Moment does not say it's a political action.

[Josh Holmes]

It's a staffer.

[Jason Miyares]

Literally a staffer that works for him. So we're just so gratified with all.

[Michael Duncan]

The hard work that he did.

[Jason Miyares]

Yeah. My team went back and looked on the social media account. Their job is apparently to train civic leaders. They had one training session the entire year that he claimed he did his 500 hours. One. What a grip. That's a long training session.

[Josh Holmes]

So it literally was just him on the horse raising money for the pack.

[Jason Miyares]

I think he has a lot of questions he has to ask answer for that. And again, is that legal? Listen, it's, it's going to be curious to see how the new can. Commonwealth's attorney's office, they have come out and said they had not agreed that this would be his pack. Wow. So that in my opinion is almost essentially admission of we were deceived.

[John Ashbrook]

There's more to the story.

[Jason Miyares]

You have a requirement. Remember, he's also obviously a member of the, the Virginia Bar. He's a lawyer himself.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Jason Miyares]

You have a duty under the rules of professional conduct in Virginia to be completely with candor with the court. You're not allowed to receive. You're not allowed to say, well, you know, I just deception through just omission. Right. And so there's going to be.

[Josh Holmes]

So this guy, I mean if he like lightning strikes and this guy got elected attorney general, he could have like no law license.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Jason Miyares]

You are required to have a law license to do this job. Just for your listeners edification here.

[Smug]

Yeah.

[Jason Miyares]

So there's just. I do think, I mean when I saw that and all of that, that was a lack of both seriousness and dangerousness. But then obviously these latest revelations just show that his, in my opinion, his moral compass is, is off.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

Well, yeah, that's the thing that's scariest about these two things, I think in concert. I mean, obviously one is grotesque, like you know, fantasizing about the murder of children, but then also thinking that the rules don't apply to me. The other side of that is, is equally scary, I think in one way. And that is you want to be in charge of law and order in Virginia. And if the rules don't apply to the chief lawman, like, what are we supposed to do?

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, it's kind of like the deal we make with folks.

[Michael Duncan]

Right?

[Jason Miyares]

Right.

[Josh Holmes]

It's like the kind of the thing they sign up for when they're fighting for people.

[John Ashbrook]

It's so true. And this is a very real. Not that the other jobs in politics aren't real jobs. This is a very real job with very practical responsibilities that everybody living in the state depends on you to execute upon. And yet Democrats are pushing forward this guy who is utterly lawless. And I think about. We were talking earlier, I think about how they just replaced Joe Biden overnight on the ballot last year, and it just blows my mind that they didn't try to do the same thing with this guy.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, it's a little too late, right? Isn't that the reality?

[Jason Miyares]

Yeah, I mean, it looks to be that it. And I think this is why they are essentially tacitly sticking with him, is I think the date has passed. But to your point, yes. You know, I said before, you know, Jay was in his advertising, it was all about Washington fights. Right. Attacking President Trump. And a reporter asked me, and I said, well, first of all, with his liberal voting record, he should be running for Attorney General of California, not Virginia. But more so, he's running for the wrong office. He clearly wants to relish fights here. You know, the first thing I look at every morning is reports from the, Our equivalent of the FBI in Virginia is the Bureau of Criminal Investigation, the BCI reports from Virginia State Police Diffusion center, which is our threat center. Bci. And then obviously, I get a report regularly from Homeland Security. I have to get a security clearance with the nature of these threats, because, listen, there's a lot of bad actors that don't like us, and we have a lot of defense installations here in Virginia. And so the nature of it, this is an incredibly serious job. It is not a job in Congress where everybody's candidly doing the partisan talking smack. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's, that's, that's a whole separate discussion of people trying to legislate through cable news, I guess. Yeah, this is a serious job. I mean, my. And one of the things I was adamant about because I heard from law enforcement, was he had to be present. They had never, they hadn't really seen my predecessor. And in the transition, I asked every former attorney general that had previously been the job in Virginia, I asked him this. And I actually think every elected official should do this for those that have come before them. And the question I asked them was, what is one thing that you wish you had known your first day in office, you didn't realize until your last day? And a big portion of that was, you have got to be present. Because even with myself and getting these reports to come in, I make a point. I have a huge regional office in Fairfax, another one Roanoke, another one in Abingdon, another one Hampton Roads. Of going out and meeting with those at the front lines, meeting with law enforcement, having these private meetings with no press.

[Josh Holmes]

You can get bogged down in paperwork if you didn't know.

[Jason Miyares]

You get a sense of, who is this? Because there's a big difference between local gang activity, homegrown activity, and when cartels move in, organized activity. That means inevitably now you're also dealing with issues like extortion. There's a host of other. There's a big difference between homegrown gang activity and when the cartels come in, it changes the game. Right. You know, the difference between outlaw motorcycle gangs and how involved they're right now in the narcotics trade versus, for example. There's a reason why you don't hear much about the Bloods and the Crips anymore. Yeah, because they got wiped out. Because the cartels, they practice a form of vertical integration that is just ruthless. And so you have to be out and talking to them. You have to be present. And that goes to the fact that this is an incredibly serious job. Of course, it is partisan in the sense that you have to be elected, but most of what you do by nature isn't partisan. It's about public safety. And as I've said, when I've met with a victim, I've never asked them whether a victim has voted for me, never asked a police chief whether they've ever voted for me. I don't care. My job is being, as I said, the people's protector. That's the mindset I brought. And I'm confident Virginians will reward that and not reward what I think is a failure of decency.

[Josh Holmes]

Listen, I can hope beyond hope that that is true. I will say everybody's listened to this interview, so you don't need to reiterate it. This is a guy who you want to not only be an attorney general in an important state, but he's kind of represents the future of what the Republican Party ought to look like. He's in it for the right reasons, strong head on his shoulders, character, integrity, all those things. And then does the job like, isn't interested in just the rhetoric of it. I'm saying that so you don't have to because it's absolutely, absolutely true. We've enjoyed your leadership over the last four years. I'm looking forward to four more. Where do we go to help you.

[Jason Miyares]

If you want to make sure decency stays alive in our politics, even if you're not a Virginia voter? Everybody can go to stanwithjason.com that's stanwithjason.com, they could go. That goes. Takes you to my website. Obviously, they could follow me on x jasonmyarsva. But stanwithjason.com, that's how you could chip in. And if I could just close with this. We have a lot of debates. You all are in D.C. literally in D.C. a wise Marine once told me this. He said, if you go to Arlington National Cemetery and you walk among those crosses and the Stars of David's, there's not an R or a D next to anyone's name. And so it's important to pause and reflect that someone who thinks differently than you politically has literally given their life for this country. In other words, just because we differ politically, you're not going to be my enemy. I think that should be our mindset. That's the mindset I brought as attorney general. That's what I want to do for another four years.

[Smug]

You're the man.

[Jason Miyares]

Thank you. Real honor. Real honor.

[Josh Holmes]

Okay, so our question of the day. After all that, first of all, I just got to say, Jason is just such a good guy. Go to that website. Do something if you can. I'm going to right now. Like, as soon as we turn off these microphones, I'm gonna go help out as best I can and I will call him and I will do anything because I think it's that important. And it's not about Virginia. I think it's that important. But it leads to a good question based on the first and second segment and that interview, which is what are the top three craziest Democrats and why? Like Jay Jones, just an outside real dark horse. 16 seed worked his way into that guy conversation in the last week. But who are the top three Crazy. We gave you three off the top. We added a fourth with Jay Jones, but there are others. They're all out there. So that's our question of the day. You gotta like and subscribe to do it when you do it. We read all of your comments and get back to you the very next episode. In this case, we may hold it for next week. But do that if you want to. And here's your last, by the way, question of the day, which is an absolutely terrific moral conundrum that we came up with here on their Variety program. We talked a lot about Trump getting into these cities. And the question is, should Trump just let these cities fall? If they don't want them there, should he just let them fall? You guys had some terrific comments to do that. We always start with a voice first.

[John Ashbrook]

One comes from Dominic Thomas. Dominic writes, since we have a president who understands entertainment and media, let's flip this on its head. Each city becomes its own Hunger Games style reality TV show. I mean, we're trying to build the future.

[Jason Miyares]

Right? Right.

[John Ashbrook]

Let's just skip ahead and get started. Every citizen who remains in the city after a certain date is automatically considered a contestant. All weapons are legal and whomever is left standing at the end wins.

[Smug]

Amazing.

[Michael Duncan]

I love that we're going to do the purge.

[Josh Holmes]

So good comment to Haruncs.

[Michael Duncan]

This is from Karen Alexander. Karen writes, letting the liberal cities fall is comparable to letting the brat kid in class ruin school for everyone else. So no, Trump should legally step in and show them dad is home. Love the show.

[Smug]

See, that's a good point.

[Josh Holmes]

It is a good point, Karen. It's the kind of thing we come to expect from sensible listeners of the Variety program. Comment three, please.

[Smug]

Smug comment three comes from the shitpost. That's a play on the Washington Post name. They write we should continue the Build the Wall project and build walls around all of the red cities in red states. Think Escape from New York turn them into huge open air prisons. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Josh Holmes]

So like LA and Manhattan and Chicago turn into like Australia but England? Didn't the English do that in a prison colon?

[Smug]

Honestly, at this point, it's like the way things are going in these cities, building a wall around them might not be the worst idea.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. And then like, like 300 years later they show up and they got a bunch of hots in Hollywood.

[Michael Duncan]

Would I do. I do think. I think, I think there should be some sort of like, to, you know, like the no Fly List. Right? Like if you live in New York City and you vote for Mom, Donnie, you shouldn't be able to relocate to Florida.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, no, you're right. You should have to lock in.

[Michael Duncan]

You should end up on a no Fly List. You cannot leave.

[Smug]

You have to.

[Josh Holmes]

You have to live no matter what under the leadership that you elected.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah, you can't, you can't. You can't change your mind. In 18 months and move to West Palm.

[Josh Holmes]

Wouldn't that be a great social contract? God, that would be so great. They're like, oh, well, I don't know. Now there's no jobs.

[Michael Duncan]

I'm totally insulated from all the decisions I make. My life is perfect. I'll fuck it up for everyone else and then move to Florida.

[Josh Holmes]

What a great idea. I love it. Okay, so that's all that. I think it's time for a game, fellas. Let's get some yucks on. Signature game here on Thursday is King of the Hill, I believe I'm the defending champion.

[Michael Duncan]

You are with Bill Crystal smug. You're the challenger. Who do you have?

[Smug]

Adam Kinzinger.

[Michael Duncan]

Kinzinger. And I'm Judge. Which leaves Ashbrook to Bailiff. Let's go ringside.

[John Ashbrook]

Ladies and gentlemen, your attention, please. It's time for King of the Hill. In the red corner, fighting out of who knows where, Adam Kinzinger. And now, in the blue corner, fighting from Pierroma Dier's checkbook, and current champion.

[Josh Holmes]

Of the world, Bill War.

[John Ashbrook]

Now War forever.

[Jason Miyares]

Crystal.

[Josh Holmes]

God, that's a good one. That was a really good one. All right, I'm the champion, so I have to go first. There was a lot out there, as you might imagine, in this particular day and age, but there was one that I picked up this week that I think is particularly indicative of Bill Kristol's metamorphosis, shall we say, Exhibit 1. Pam Bondi's shameless stonewalling of the Senate Judiciary Committee today is, of course, a total negation of congressional oversight. Oversight is impossible if they won't let you see anything. All right, so let me explain what it is that he's getting at here. What we learned in that very congressional oversight hearing was that Jack Smith, the special prosecutor who was assigned to try to indict President Trump, had surreptitiously obtained data and information on eight Republican United States Senators. That is, of course, a huge constitutional problem. There's the whole Article 1, Article 2 component that where that is kind of a dead letter. But this, it became a larger discussion that none of us ever knew about. That is what oversight is, is you tap into a department that has control of information and you ask questions about it. In this case, the world got to hear for the very first time that Jack Smith wasn't just targeting Donald Trump and all of his associates. He was actually going after sitting United States senators. And I think tomorrow we're gonna have Kennedy on to talk about this, who was extremely animated in that kind of hearing, but, like, for him to say she was stonewalling him about. What was it like, fucking Epstein that he's talking about? Like, some shit that, like, is four months old. Like, I have no idea what he's talking about, but, like, this is, to me, the essence of an oversight hearing. And this cat didn't want to hear it.

[Michael Duncan]

Well, I think the only inversion, really, was all the Democratic members of that committee suddenly disinterested in what an out of control executive looked like when it was run by Joe Biden, but simultaneously.

[Josh Holmes]

Very interested in the current executive, which is a little bit of a heel turn.

[Michael Duncan]

Strange.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

Smug. What do you got?

[Smug]

Exhibit eight, please, from Adam Kinzinger. He's posted a photo of the proposed dollar coin which has President Trump, you know, pumping his fist after he had survived an assassination attempt. And Kinzinger writes, not a cult, though. He accuses Trump supporters of being an occult. Not the whole point of that image being that maybe Democrats brainwashed their cult into thinking Trump is a fascist and they repeatedly try to murder him, and now they continue to try to murder conservatives in general.

[Michael Duncan]

Interesting. I mean, this is difficult because it's basically substance verse style. It's one of the most difficult things to do on King of the Hill when you have two tweets that are just so different. Can we. Can we put up.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. Exhibit one.

[Michael Duncan]

Exhibit one again, real quick. Pam Bondi's shameless stonewalling of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Okay, okay.

[Josh Holmes]

So.

[Michael Duncan]

The thing that's interesting, I think, about that whole Judiciary Committee, which is left unsaid, of course, by Bill Kristol's tweet, is that Pam Bondi came to that hearing, like, locked and loaded with every attack back on every Democrat.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

In that committee.

[Josh Holmes]

Eviscerating.

[Michael Duncan]

And so I guess what I love about this tweet from Bill Kristol is that he's, like, on the front lines running interference on a hearing that obviously went terrible for the Democrats. And I think, like, Ty goes to the runner in this situation. In that case, the substance wins over the style. And for that reason, number one goes to Crystal.

[John Ashbrook]

Okay, okay, challenge snuggles.

[Smug]

Exhibit nine, please. This is Kinzinger's take on illegal immigration. He says, the thing that makes me the sickest is that these folks don't even have a shred of compassion. It's one thing to enforce laws and rules. It's another to do it gleefully and celebrate the suffering of someone born into poverty and desperation. I love this Excuse me, excuse from the left of Basically like, oh, no. You know, look at this photo of this person crying. This is why you're not allowed to have borders in your country. Like he says, it's one thing to obey laws, but like, that tells you everything. He doesn't care about laws, he doesn't care about rules. He doesn't care about the enforcement of it. He doesn't think America should exist as a country. If someone, oh, no, this person's crying as they're getting arrested for breaking the laws.

[Josh Holmes]

That's pretty good.

[Michael Duncan]

I like it.

[Josh Holmes]

All right, Exhibit three. Oh, it's just so good. I'm gonna go for the knockout. I think we are facing a clear and present authoritarian danger in these circumstances. Can Democrats in Congress continue to take the position that their demand from the Trump administration is simply to restore healthcare funding?

[John Ashbrook]

I don't think so.

[Michael Duncan]

Interesting.

[Josh Holmes]

So he's to the left of Shuber, he's to the left of Jeffries. He's to the left of the Democratic Party. They're down a rat hole with no fucking ladder. And this guy is like, no, I want more.

[John Ashbrook]

The guy used to publish a conservative magazine, Weekly Standing.

[Michael Duncan]

I mean, that is compelling. It is compelling. You know, when you get into shutdown politics, it's like, jerseys. Yeah, put jerseys on.

[Josh Holmes]

He's like, fuck the jersey.

[Michael Duncan]

And he's like, fuck the jerseys. He's like, I'm a Democrat now and the Democratic Party's failing me. I'm to the left of the Democratic Party. I just, I gotta say, it's incredible. For a guy who, you know, was the editor in chief of the Weekly Standard, it's gotta be a two round knockout. Sorry.

[John Ashbrook]

Smug.

[Michael Duncan]

I'm sorry.

[Josh Holmes]

You know what, the thing that the part of the magic is with Crystal is that he sat next to Krauthammer all those years.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. I wanted to give it to Kinzinger because it was posted on Blue Sky.

[Josh Holmes]

I know.

[Michael Duncan]

And that in and of itself, I think, is such an indictment.

[Josh Holmes]

I know, but.

[Michael Duncan]

But it goes to Crystal.

[Josh Holmes]

Couldn't go there.

[John Ashbrook]

Our noble jurist has ruled.

[Josh Holmes]

Two time champion. All right, so thank you for that. Remember, our question of the day is what are the top three craziest Democrats? And. And why give us a little color on all of that? When you like and subscribe to the YouTube channel, we read every one of your comments, we summarize them and get back to you in the very next episode. Check out some merch while you're there and enjoy yourself a little. I know we will. And we're gonna see you tomorrow. With that, fellas. I think we did it.

[Smug]

I think so. Absolute banger of an episode. Gentlemen, thank you so much, Attorney General Miaris. And thank you so much to the Minions. Like Holmes said, if you have not yet, go to the YouTube hit that subscribe because it's more fun and video. So until next time, Minions, keep the faith, hold the line, and own the libs. We'll see you on Friday. Stay ruthless.