Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (2:09)

Unbelievable.

Josh Holmes (2:10)

We have so much to talk about.

Eric Trump (2:11)

What a day.

Josh Holmes (2:12)

But we start with, I mean, look, your father is quite literally presiding over one of, I think the most significant international developments that we've seen, at least in my lifetime over in the Middle East. The images coming out of there, incredible. The story is incredible. Hostages being reunited with their families. Something that we were assured could never happen. Yeah, and your dad made it happen. If you wouldn't mind just giving me Your reaction to some of that?

Eric Trump (2:43)

Well, I mean, isn't that kind of like the great irony of life? Right? You know, when people think big, they can kind of achieve big, and when people think small, they achieve small. And they all said it couldn't happen. And, you know, Donald Trump was one person saying, I can get you peace in the Middle East. I can get peace on Earth. And he's able to achieve it because he actually believed in the heart. I mean, there is like a law of positive thinking, right? And the Democrats have never known it. And that's a good point. And by the way he put his. Man, did this guy put work into this? This was not an easy one, right? I mean, you've got 2,000 years of culture, of two societies that fundamentally dislike each other in every way, shape and form. And, you know, and by the way, a lot of people who egg it on just for selfish reasons, as you've seen over the last, you know, year or two, you've got a lot of outside instigators who, believe me, did not want today to happen. And, you know, and yet he forced this great deal. And the hostages are back and incredibly proud of him. I mean, I could not be more proud as a son. I couldn't. And honestly, you know, so. So I know we're going to talk about a little bit later, but, you know, I wrote this book, Under Siege, right? And all of it's about what they. What they did to us and how they tried to destroy us, right? And everybody always asked me, you know, what's the whole journey worth it? And you guys reported that. And honestly, on a day like today, it's all worth it. I mean, it's all worth it. Every single time I see one of these conflicts ended, whether it's Vietnam, you saw the whole Cambodia thing, and all these conflicts, every single time, there are people who are alive right now because he stopped wars. It's worth it. The whole voyage was worth it.

Josh Holmes (4:07)

It's a good perspective. One of the things that we find so fascinating, of course, at every turn, your father's gotten no credit, your family gets no credit. But this one seems different in a lot of different ways, in that, generally speaking, international conflict comes to an end, there's some kind of a peace deal, the result of which is all in the eye of the beholder, meaning winners and losers. And it's sort of a mixed emotion across the world. What you saw yesterday was, at least in my lifetime, I think, the most globally recognized achievement that we've seen in foreign policy and I think that, I mean, it goes back to the work at the end of the first four years and being able to see that progress for what it is. Set aside all of the last four horrible years, pick up where you left off with those relationships and everything else. Is that. Am I right about that?

Eric Trump (5:03)

Yeah. No, no, I think it's. I think it's so well said. You're right. Normally you have a loser and you have a victor, and, you know, it's the first time that. And by the way, that's when the whole, like, nobody Peace Prize comes up, right? Where my father gets snubbed again. Now, Barack Hussein Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for bringing. For spending what, you know, $9 trillion in wars overseas. And, you know, they'd build a school, they'd bomb the hell out of that school, they would rebuild that school, they'd bomb the hell out of the school. This stuff was happening for, you know, two decades under these people Peace Prize, you know, and yet, and yet my father gets us out of all these wars, stops the ruthless killing, and he gets snubbed for Nobel Peace Prize again. He should have gotten it first term, but. But yet, you know, it's really amazing. Everybody, every party on every side of this conflict, they're all saying that he should get the Nobel Peace Prize. Like, the great irony, you know, it's like, you know, you go back to, like, World War II. I'm not exactly sure if Germany would have said that, you know, us should have gotten the Nobel Peace Prize and vice versa, Right? Like, you know, you know, same thing with Japan. I mean, you know, same thing with Vietnam or Korea. You know, you literally have the leaders of all of these things saying, give the man the, the Peace Prize, like he deserves it. Like, you know, every related party in this whole conflict is saying he deserves it. And so I think that's so well said.

John Ashbrook (6:11)

Yeah, I kind of see it including that woman who recently won it. I saw her over the weekend saying that because of what he's doing in Venezuela and protecting people who have been terrorized by these cartels over the years. She was like, you have to give this to him.

Eric Trump (6:26)

It's actually sad if you think about the whole thing, right? And like, like, I want there to be a Nobel Peace Prize for, For the benefit of humanity. This isn't me getting deep, right? But, like, I really like the world is deserving of something that has credibility, that honors people who really do great work, right? The problem, no different than the, the Emmys and the Oscars and everything else. Everything that goes woke goes to.

Josh Holmes (6:45)

Yep.

Eric Trump (6:46)

You. You know what I'm about to say, right? It goes, shit.

Josh Holmes (6:48)

Yeah.

Eric Trump (6:48)

And that's exactly what's going to happen with a Nobel Peace Prize if they keep on playing these games where everybody's expecting it and they don't do it. And then, you know, it's a bunch of people in Norway who make this decision and all of a sudden they're snubbing a guy for whatever they're, you know, you know, political animus is. And all of a sudden this great institution that was so revered for, you know, for so many years, you know, kind of falls apart, basically.

Josh Holmes (7:09)

Turned it into like Glamour magazine or Vanity Fair, right. It used to be all the best looking women and everything. And then all of a sudden, in the last 15, 20 years, it's like, well, only if they're like a left leftist side.

Eric Trump (7:21)

Can I give you. Great. Can I give you. You know, we always talk about the bop and weave. Yeah, I gotta give you like a little Trump bop and weave. So. So we owned Miss Universe for a very long time, right? And my father ended up selling it. He sent it, sold it to NBC and img and, you know, he always had this statement. They're like, you know, Mr. Trump, how did you make this successful? And he goes, you know, very, very tall heels and small bathing suits, right? And so sure enough, you know, we sell it and it was like the number one show, you know, NBC and a bunch of, you know, this whole conglomerate buys it, you know, the next year Miss Spain happened to be a man that they put into. And then sure enough, this whole thing went to shit. Right? It's no different. Like, we could buy it back. We could turn Miss Universe. We can't probably do that because of politics. That probably wouldn't be a great reflection on you.

Michael Duncan (8:03)

Never.

Eric Trump (8:04)

I don't know the rules. Crazier things have happened. The point of this is things can be fixed awfully quickly with the right leadership and totally.

Josh Holmes (8:12)

And vision totally ducks.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (8:14)

Yeah. So I'm sure you've talked with your dad here, you know, last few days about this deal a lot. I was wondering if maybe you could speak to sort of his, like, personal feelings about this and the magnitude of it, given all the work that y' all did in the first administration with the Abraham Accords. And this is sort of the crowning achievement of all the peace he's tried to bring to the region, sort of. Where was his head at when you talked to him about it?

Eric Trump (8:37)

Yeah, he was. I mean, listen, this is probably the crowning achievement of somebody's life if you think about it, right? Because it's really, you know, this is real transformational stuff. It's one thing to win races. It's. I mean, you're transforming the lives of, you know, hundreds and hundreds of millions, potentially billions of people, long term stopping death and destruction. And, you know, I know everybody on that stage, right? I mean, Steve Wyckoff is a dear friend of mine, like a dear, dear, dear personal friend. And I'm up there and my father's saying nice words about him and, you know, Steve's crying. I mean, listen, last thing that Steve Wyckoff needed to do is get into this thing. Incredibly good developer, made a fortune, right. You know, literally gave it all away so he could come into politics, so he could achieve this. I mean, literally gave up his entire life. It's no different than my father. I mean, I was the guy that my father came to when I was 33 years old. Honey, I need you to run the company. You know, I want to go do this, you know, this bigger thing. He walked away from it all. Spent a fortune. I mean, it cost him a fortune. He funded his entire campaign. We spent $400 million in legal fees keeping the animals away. And why did he do it? You know, he didn't do it because he wanted to be like, you know, Barack Obama, who, you know, was community organizer, who ended up, you know, buying the biggest house on Martha's Vineyard. Like, his life went backward when. When he did this.

Josh Holmes (9:47)

And.

Eric Trump (9:48)

And if you think about it, you know, why did he actually do it? He did it for moments like this.

Josh Holmes (9:51)

Yeah.

Eric Trump (9:52)

You know, why did he do it? When you see churches filled across this country, when you see, you know, respect for the Constitution, respect for anthem, where you no longer have the Colin Kaepernicks, you know, kneeling at football games, right? Like, that's why he did it. I mean, he's been such a pivotal kind of force for. For good, but he's also. He was so real. I'm not sure if you watched the speech this morning. God, I started. I started laughing. I started dying. At one point during the speech, you know, he looked at my. My sister, she was there. And he goes, bibi, Ivanka, she's a proud Jew. She converted. She's orthodox Jew. Bibi. And then he goes. And I turn around, I'm looking, I'm just. I know something's coming. And he goes, bb, this wasn't exactly in the cards. It wasn't exactly in the cards. And I go, in front of all of Parliament. He's literally doing this. And it was the funniest crap, but it was so real.

Josh Holmes (10:42)

So real.

Eric Trump (10:42)

It was so Donald Trump.

Michael Duncan (10:43)

It was so real.

Eric Trump (10:44)

Parliament was laughing. BB Was laughing. And then, you know, by the way, there was, like, no teleprompter used. I mean, this was, like, the greatest hour of comedy. Right? Do you remember the whole, you know, Obama thing, right? Where after they killed bin Laden and, oh, yeah, we executed a perfect raid on. Yeah. And then when my father killed Al Baghdadi, it's like, you know, we shot him like a dog. You want to go. You would think you go through the front door, but, you know, these guys can go through the front door. They blew a hole in the wall.

Josh Holmes (11:12)

He's a storyteller, and he was crying.

Eric Trump (11:14)

And he cried like a little girl. Al Baghdad. He cried like a little girl.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (11:18)

Don't cry. We told him, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry.

Eric Trump (11:21)

But it was so funny. And then. And then off script, I'm not sure if you saw the whole pardon thing with.

Josh Holmes (11:25)

Oh, yes, absolutely.

Eric Trump (11:26)

Can you please pardon this guy? Like, this guy was like, the greatest wartime president for Israel after everything. And, like, what, you're. You're indicting him based on the fact that somebody gave him a, you know, 15 cigars. Like, what the hell is wrong with you people? Like, and he's just looking at him, he's like, do it. Come on. Pardon him. Like, do it. And it was like the greatest 15 seconds of silence. He was just waiting for him to acknowledge that he was gonna pardon Netanyahu. Like, isn't this what we want our diplomacy to be, where it's actually, like, results driven versus just in a real conversation? Yes.

John Ashbrook (11:56)

Right.

Josh Holmes (11:56)

It's not just people sharing talking points that they're going to say, yeah, we all write on a piece of paper that's previously negotiated what it is that our relationships are with one another. Like, he's doing it live.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (12:08)

And. And, you know, your dad never misses an opportunity to do that when he has a live audience and he could put somebody in a box.

Eric Trump (12:14)

You know, he's like, I'm gonna make.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (12:15)

This a little uncomfortable, but this is what I think.

Eric Trump (12:17)

Oh, it was like 15. It was literally like 15 seconds silence. And he just sat there and he stared at the guy, just waiting for a response.

Josh Holmes (12:22)

So I want to give a couple of clips here to get your reaction, because as we've discussed globally, this is a massive, massive day for humanity. A universally accepted win for the world. There are a couple of people domestically that just can't get their minds wrapped around giving your dad credit. One of them is going to be pretty familiar for you. Clip one. Please, fellas.

Interviewer/Reporter (12:45)

When this airs, President Trump will be on his way to the Middle East. They have this deal between Israel and Palestine. Both former Secretaries of State Hillary Clinton and Antony Blinken have commended President Trump for the ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas. Do you agree with them? Should he be commended?

Political Commentator (13:04)

Look, I don't think that we should hold any credit where it's due. I mean, first of all, let me say about that deal, I really do hope it becomes real and that the hostages are out, that Gaza is no longer being treated with such brutality of force that goes in. And I commend the people who have been a part of this process. I commend the Qataris, the Egyptians, and the President.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (13:38)

He gets third billing.

Josh Holmes (13:41)

The Egyptians and the president. Like, never mind the convenience.

Eric Trump (13:45)

It's so hard to watch this crap, honestly.

Michael Duncan (13:47)

Yeah.

Eric Trump (13:48)

Do you remember when she gave her economic speech?

Josh Holmes (13:49)

Oh, I do I ever.

Eric Trump (13:51)

Right? So I'm like. I'm like an economic guy, right? It's kind of like what I do, right?

Josh Holmes (13:54)

She's a champion of small business, Eric.

Eric Trump (13:56)

I don't know if you know. And she. And she's really pissed off about the price gauging, right? Do you remember the price gauging? I'm sitting there saying, I don't know, man. Like, I've worked in some pretty heavy, you know, capital markets in my life. Like, I'm pretty good at that stuff. Like, I don't know what price gauging is. I know what price gouging is, but I've never heard of price gauging. And I'm so happy that this is going to be the person who runs a $33 trillion economy. Do you guys ever watch her when she did the whole thing with the kids with Space? Oh, yeah, absolutely. With the actors. Oh, my God.

Josh Holmes (14:23)

It's the best thing I've ever seen, honestly.

Eric Trump (14:24)

Like, if you want to know about a person, like, just, I mean, think about having to rehearse and using kids as actors to get them excited about going to space. Like, it's.

Josh Holmes (14:34)

It's incredible. Well, we used to play a game here on the variety program called Veep, or Veep, where we would take A quote from HBO's Selena Meyer Veep show, and then match it up with whatever she said that week. We had to stop the game because they only made seven seasons of Veep and we flat ran out of quotes from Selina.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (14:55)

We had plenty of Kamala material. We ran out of the comedy show material.

Eric Trump (14:59)

It's so good. It's so good. But can you imagine? Can you imagine? She won. No, no, like that's serious.

Josh Holmes (15:05)

We just had this conversation.

Eric Trump (15:06)

Can you imagine? They were successful in Butler and that was literally the person running the United States of America. I mean, guys, I'm convinced you wouldn't have a country.

Josh Holmes (15:14)

This would be. We would have done an arms embargo on Israel. We would have allowed Hamas and Iran to proliferate across the Middle East. We would have a bona fide world war on our hands. You would have.

Eric Trump (15:27)

Probably. Including nuclear weapons, by the way.

Josh Holmes (15:29)

Definitely. I mean, without the Iran strike. Definitely.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (15:32)

And a lawless southern border.

Josh Holmes (15:34)

And that's. I'm glad you said that. Cuz that's where this thing sort of hits the wall of what does reality look like if he's not there? And she is. Sure, disaster.

Eric Trump (15:45)

Yeah.

Josh Holmes (15:45)

Absolutely catastrophic. I mean it's. But look, her Secretary of State's got something to say too.

Eric Trump (15:51)

Oh, I can't wait for this one.

Josh Holmes (15:52)

This is Anthony Blinken. If we put up graphic one. So here's my favorite part. It starts with a clear and comprehensive post conflict plan for Gaza. As if he's the one that put this thing together. It's good that President Trump adopted and built on the plan the Biden administration developed after months of discussion with Arab partners. Yada, yada, yada, yada. I can't even imagine the balls that it takes to try to write that first sentence.

Eric Trump (16:19)

Yeah, that's hard. That's hard. So I know a lot of people in that part of the world. Right. I've got a bunch of jobs over there. We've worked in that region for a long time. We know everybody over there. And man, how they were laughing at the United States. And by the way, it hurt me as a person who's like deeply patriotic. I'd go over there and they would literally just be making fun of your country. I mean, can you possibly believe you have, you know, six foot five men, men your size, swimming in women's sports? Hahaha. They're all sitting around a fireplace laughing about this crap and you're sitting there saying, oh my God, like, and like our standing was going down, you know, Give me a break. He didn't build anything. Blinken didn't build anything. I mean, Obama would show up. He would literally show up to China and they wouldn't even bring a staircase out to Air Force One, right? He'd show up, by the way, Saudi Arabia. He showed up in Saudi Arabia. They made Obama get. Do you remember when he went out like the kids staircase of Air Force One?

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (17:07)

Oh, yeah.

Eric Trump (17:07)

Give me a break. Yeah, you know, yeah, my father goes over there. They have a red carpet that's about four miles long. They've got, you know, 5,000 white horses with these swordsmen and everything else in the most spectacular greeting that a presence ever gotten. Like, that's how I want The American president, 100%, by the way, on both sides of the aisle. But that's the respect I want toward America. And yet. So Anthony Blinken, I'm really glad that this is part of his comprehensive plan.

Josh Holmes (17:32)

Well, they really thought it through.

Eric Trump (17:33)

Hey, buddy. My father was literally. He was serving french fries exactly one year ago today.

John Ashbrook (17:39)

All right.

Eric Trump (17:40)

And today we have Middle east peace. And Anthony Blinken's telling us how it's done. It's wild. You cannot make it up.

Josh Holmes (17:48)

You cannot make it up. But listen, when we're coming back, we're gonna talk a lot more about. We got into it a little bit last time you were here. I really want to dig deep and have some yucks right after this.

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Josh Holmes (19:33)

All right, so we're back here with Eric Trump. He's written a new book that happens to be bought by just about everybody in the world. It Seems like because he's soared right up the charts. Under siege. My family's fight to save our nation, quite literally. Not just our nation, but it seems like most of the world. Last time we talked, you were one of the very few sort of public personalities who put your own pen to paper on this bad boy. And you spent an awful lot of time just sort of downloading your own thoughts and organizing them to the story that you wanted to tell. And I think that comes through in this book in that it's a very authentic and real portrayal of your life and your family's life during this entire process.

Eric Trump (20:12)

Terrible rot. Return on time. Yeah, I put a tremendous amount of time. I mean, the things that I probably could have done in the same amount of time as it took to write and publish. But, guys, I cared about the story. I mean, I really cared about the story. The corruption that we saw over the last 10 years was unlike anything that you can ever possibly imagine between. I think I told you about it a little bit last time, but, you know, getting the call from the FBI, you know, I hear you have secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower communicating with the Kremlin. I'm like, what the are you talking about? Like, come over to Trump Tower. Come on, guys, let's go. Bring your little guns over here. Like. Like, I'll give you a tour of the basement. Like. But it was all. It was all paid for by Hillary Clinton, right? And then the dirty dossier meant to destroy our family. The raids on Mar A Lago, the raids on Melania's room, the raids on Barron's room. The first impeachment, what they did to Kavanaugh, you know, the second impeachment, I became the most subpoenaed person in American history for doing nothing. 112 subpoenas. And these are like. There's like, big boy subpoenas. Yeah. These aren't like, kids opinions. They're all coming from federal stuff. You know, Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas. And, you know, I wrote back to one of the subpoenas of Pocahontas, like, you know. You know. You know, seven suns and three moons ago. You know, the funniest part is, like.

Josh Holmes (21:18)

That happens to one of us, and I'm like, under this desk?

John Ashbrook (21:21)

Yeah.

Josh Holmes (21:21)

You know, you guys take it out, and you're like, oh, let's. Let's talk about the Indian hair.

Eric Trump (21:25)

At some point, like, you become desensitized to games because, you know, it's a game. But, you know, I mean, every AG, every DA, 91 criminal indictments, every gag order, taking us off of. People forget when they took us off of Twitter and Facebook. I mean, they wanted us voiceless, they wanted us gagged, they wanted us broke, they wanted us bankrupt. I mean, they were calling every bank around the country saying, you know what? You don't bank Trump. You don't bank his businesses. You don't bank Trump. And, you know, they were de platforming us and they were de banking us. And they took my father off of the ballots in Maine. They took him off the ballots in Colorado. Right? And so what, seven justices want to subvert the will of the American people by ripping him? We fought every single one of these ballots and so many more. I sat in that courtroom with him every single day. I was there standing right next to him when the 34 felony counts got read out. And that sham New York trial, that's totally been overturned. Right? I mean, they wanted him in jail, they wanted him imprisoned, they wanted us off that stage. And then a couple months later, we figured out that they wanted him dead. Right? They wanted him dead in Butler, Pennsylvania, I had my two kids on my lap when I watched his hair almost come off, you know, and they wanted him again dead in, in Florida. Right? And, and, and obviously, you saw what they did to all of our mutual friend Charlie. Yeah, they wanted Charlie's voice off out of the equation as well. And, and, man, and then we won. And then you have days like today where that victory and that perseverance and that tenacity and, and, and not giving up led to, you know, to, to something that people are gonna be reading about and, you know, in textbooks in 100 years, which is today. And so it was all worth it. I mean, the siege was worth it.

John Ashbrook (22:56)

It's really, it's really something to strive for. You know, it's like it's an example that everybody, that we haven't had in this country for years. You know, it is something, I'm telling you, the leadership that he has shown on the world stage here is something that I think even if Democrats win again someday, they're going to try to replicate it. If they get the right. They get the right person, they're going to try to replicate it. Because if you listen to him in Israel this morning and then in Egypt, he's talking about all of the other people. He's talking about Witkoff. He's talking about, you know, he's talking about all the people who came together to make this happen. It's not. He's not focused on himself. He's focused on the mission. And that kind of, like, mission driven attitude is something that we have just been so hungry for in this country for so long. And I know you touch on some of that stuff in the book, but really, really glad that he's here.

Eric Trump (23:44)

Well, you know, it's why it went to number one. It went to number one in every category on Amazon, which is so cool. I'm so happy. But. But I spent a lot of time talking about it in the book. There's a couple of things. There's, you know, there's a God component. You better believe that God was guiding him, because this was the most unlikely journey that probably shouldn't have been. Right. But. But there's also a snowball effect to all of this. Right. Today's victory will. Will make every victory thereafter easier and easier. Right. And, you know, like, you don't. You don't think that Kim Jong Un is watching this. Yeah.

Josh Holmes (24:10)

Right.

Eric Trump (24:10)

You don't think that Putin is watching what's happening right now kind of coalescing of the entire, you know, world.

Michael Duncan (24:16)

Yep.

Eric Trump (24:16)

Right. I mean, every day that he stops a conflict, every day that daddy comes home and gives somebody a little spanking, like, you know, honestly.

Michael Duncan (24:23)

Yeah.

Eric Trump (24:23)

That's what he's doing.

Josh Holmes (24:24)

Well, yeah.

Eric Trump (24:25)

Including people in his own party, including all the Democrats, including the mainstream media. And you need that. I mean, the world needs that. And by the way, the entire world is thankful for that as well. Because, listen, if America is strong, the entire world is strong. If America is weak, the world goes to hell. And it does so very, very quickly. I mean, we saw that over the last four years.

John Ashbrook (24:44)

Yeah.

Eric Trump (24:45)

And so. No, it's good that we have some maturity back in the army.

Josh Holmes (24:49)

100%. Can I ask you, there's this period of time, Right. You know that the Biden administration's coming after your dad. Letitia James, you've got the shit in Georgia. Like, everything is going on. And then shortly after the midterms, your dad decides he wants to run again. He announces way earlier than anybody else thought in that period of time. Look, you've got an incredible company. You build large buildings. You've got a bunch of different things going on. Is there a moment where you and your family are like, are we sure, dad, Is this, like, something you want to go through again?

Eric Trump (25:27)

You know, I'm not sure how to explain it. Maybe this is less than, you know, PC but maybe we're a little bit, like, masochistic, where, like, we, like, we enjoyed the feeling of pain.

Josh Holmes (25:35)

Well, that's Kind of what I'm getting at.

Eric Trump (25:37)

Those people exist. I think at that point, guys, we were all in.

Josh Holmes (25:40)

Yeah.

Eric Trump (25:40)

If these people, like, like, we're going to win. And guys, 2020 felt. I remember how bad that night felt.

Josh Holmes (25:46)

Yeah, totally.

Eric Trump (25:47)

Right. We're seeing the blue room of the White House.

Michael Duncan (25:49)

Right.

Eric Trump (25:49)

Everything's. We had. We had the thing one, and then all of a sudden, all those returns started dropping at whatever it was, 1:30 in the morning. And we just saw it and we knew we'd won. Because I would be out there not as a person who wants anything to do with politics, but as a guy who was on that stage every day, meaning in defense of my father or by his side. I mean, I'd go. I'd go speak an event next to Joe Biden. I'd have 2,000 people there for me. And I was not on the ticket. Right. Yeah. And Biden couldn't fill up the little circles. Like, give me a break.

Josh Holmes (26:15)

Honking horns.

John Ashbrook (26:15)

Yeah.

Eric Trump (26:16)

That he beat Barack Obama by 16 million votes. He beat Barack Obama in 2012 by 16 million more votes. And he never left his Delaware. Like, give me a break. At the same time, it was the greatest thing that ever happened to us. Right. It's, like, weird that the law of unintended consequences, how, how that works, actually. Being able to get a better Cabinet, being able to have the House, the Senate, a 6:3 majority, obviously in the Supreme Court. I mean, it's just amazing how the world works. And like. Like everything was teed up almost for this, this moment. Yeah. You almost needed that pendulum shift in order to reshock the world as to. But. But no, we never said don't do it. In fact, I was the first person back on that stage, even though I was probably the one in the Trump family, you know, if you think about it, because I ran all the companies.

John Ashbrook (26:56)

Yep.

Eric Trump (26:56)

I was their target.

John Ashbrook (26:58)

Right.

Eric Trump (26:58)

They wanted to target everything my father had ever built, his entire career, his legacy, his name, everything. I mean, they've tried to diminish that every single day. And so, you know, how do they do that? They can't get to my father through the executive branch because he has executive branch protections under speech debate, laws and everything else.

John Ashbrook (27:14)

Right.

Eric Trump (27:15)

So guess where they came from.

Josh Holmes (27:16)

All of a sudden you're holding the red cable.

Eric Trump (27:18)

Holy shit.

Josh Holmes (27:19)

Oh, okay.

Eric Trump (27:20)

Man, this is. This is. This is hot and heavy today. Like, what the hell did I do to deserve this? Like, I'm a good guy. I don't have a laptop from hell. You know, I mean, I could Picture.

Josh Holmes (27:29)

Because you're like, look, you're remarkably, as of your whole family are remarkably well adjusted people. And you're sitting up, wow, they're really going after dad. And then you look at me like, wait a minute, that's. They're going right after me.

Eric Trump (27:40)

And I'm looking at Hunter Biden, right? Who's like, who's the most. He's not, he's, he's far from a pure, but like, he's, I don't know, pure in terms of politics and kind of maybe political families. I sit there saying, holy shit. Like, I don't, I don't have any hookers on my laptop. Like, like, like, I'll give you any time you want to test this out. I'll pull out of my briefcase right now. You can go for my entire laptop, like, use. AI, like, you know, no, no illicit drugs, never married, courting your crack use. No, I never, I never married. Don's like, wife like crazy crap, right? And this guy gets the pass. Like, he gets the pass. Like, and, and by the way, you know, I raised $50 million for, for terminally ill children at St. Jude, and they come after me like, I'm the devil.

Josh Holmes (28:20)

You're the asshole.

Eric Trump (28:21)

I'm in bed by like 10:30 at night with two beautiful kids, run a company that pays 10 more money than you can possibly imagine to the, the government. I'm like, yeah, we're like the best of, like, American industry. And they come after me like, I've never got a speeding ticket in my life. And they come after me like I'm a freaking dog.

Josh Holmes (28:37)

Like, you know, it's sad. I mean, look, it's true. But, yeah, that's why I asked the question, because you go through all this and you're a normal guy, you're doing stuff, obviously extremely successful, but it's like, holy shit, do we want this? And, you know, I guess the answer is yes. And you guys had a clarity of mission about all of it that has resulted in what it is that we're seeing now.

Eric Trump (28:58)

Well, a little bit of it's, you know, if not us, who. Because I don't think anybody had, you know, and this was gonna sound horrible, so I apologize in advance, but, like, you needed, you needed two things in this fight. You need a deep pocketbook, right? Because. Yeah, and you needed a damn loud voice, right? And they tried to take both of those away from us, but they're the only things that got us through. Like, I love hearing from people who, you know, Trump's profiting from the presidency because somebody goes into one of their hotels and orders a margarita. I'm like, I think you Forgot about the $400 million we spent, you know, keeping these lunatics off of us. Plus the fact that, you know, DJT literally self funded his entire campaign. Plus the fact that he gives his salary back on a monthly basis, plus the fact that any kind of profits that come into the hotels from any foreign source, we donate back to the U.S. treasury. I mean, I could go on for hours and hours and hours, but there's a certain point. I have a great grandmother, she just turned 90. I have a grandmother who's an amazing woman, just turned 99 years old. But she always said, eric, she came from communist Czechoslovakia. Every, every day she'd say, how many steaks can you eat? Eric, how many steaks can you eat? She really saw, like, the Germans come through, you know, her town and do unthinkable things back in the day. And. And she always said, eric, how many steaks can you eat? And at the end of the day, that's how it was for our family. Like. Like, we've done tremendously well. Yeah. All of our success. We probably lived out the American dream. We built an unbelievable company. We have. We have unbelievable fortune and luck and everything else. You know, at some point, you dedicate whatever you can to actually helping humanity. And if. Who else was gonna do Jeb Bush?

Josh Holmes (30:21)

Yeah, like, fair.

Eric Trump (30:22)

Like who. Who else on that stage could have. Could have done what he did? No one.

Josh Holmes (30:26)

Nobody.

Eric Trump (30:26)

No one. I mean, I'm not. He's a remarkable human being and. And I'm so proud of him. So proud.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (30:33)

So I think you've done incredible public service here. You were talking about earlier, the amnesia of everything that you cover here in Under Siege and everything they did, you know, everything from deplatforming him and, and the dossier and, and all of that sort of stuff. So a huge public service that, like, now people can hear about that from a first person account. Is there one thing, really, that sticks out in all of it, in that crucible that your family went through to now return to the White House that you're most grateful for the test of.

Eric Trump (31:01)

Yeah, well, those low moments after those 34 felony, you know, 34 felony convictions in your courthouse. I remember we walked out.

Josh Holmes (31:08)

That's tough.

Eric Trump (31:09)

We actually went right from there to a fundraiser I'll never forget about. I'll never forget it. We left the courthouse and we went uptown, New York, to a fundraiser.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (31:15)

Yeah.

Eric Trump (31:16)

Because we were campaigning, but he was, he was Gagged and everything. And he goes, honey, we're going to win this whole thing. I don't know how, but we're going to win this whole thing. And I said, we're either going to be in the White House or we're both going to be in jail.

Josh Holmes (31:25)

Which was an absolute truth.

Eric Trump (31:26)

Yeah, yeah, no, the White House or jail for doing nothing wrong, by the way. But you know, we're going to, but honestly, you know, when we talk about the dirty dossier, everybody forgets about it. But like this was paid for and funded by Hillary Clinton. Right. And the Democrats and, and, and same with, you know, the Russia hoax. I mean, think about two nuclear superpowers who couldn't talk to each other for effectively three years. I mean, the two largest nuclear superpowers, the US and Russia thinking, you know, sitting on ungodly weapons payloads and they couldn't talk to each other because some greedy woman wanted, you know, three extra votes, you know, want to make up stories like true. No one ever actually puts it in perspective that, you know, like think about it, think about if a weather satellite went up in the air and somebody thought that there was an attack or something along those lines and all of a sudden the two biggest nuclear superpowers don't really have communication because of this whole slanderous lie made up by Hillary Clinton. You know, wow, is that a dangerous thing for the world, Right?

Josh Holmes (32:16)

No kidding.

Eric Trump (32:16)

But then think about how evil, you know, maybe this is just me not coming from the, you know, and I'm far from a baby.

John Ashbrook (32:22)

Right?

Eric Trump (32:23)

I mean think about somebody making up a dossier, talking about guys golden shadow. I mean the worst thing possible, all that was intended to do is embarrass and destroy family, destroy relationships and everything else. And paying somebody to. I mean, I don't have that in my heart. Maybe I'm too nice of a.

Josh Holmes (32:39)

No, I hear you.

Eric Trump (32:41)

I couldn't do it to somebody. My worst enemy. I couldn't just make up stories that didn't exist for the benefit of, remember? And that was their October Surprise. Those two things were their October Surprise as defined by Bill Clinton. October Surprise is something that you pop on somebody that's so devastating to them. Right. So late that they don't have enough time to disprove it. That's the Democrats version of the October Surprise. So they make up this whole thing and then, hahaha. And then guess what? I mean, you had Adam Schiff who was saying that Donald Trump Jr. Was gonna go to jail for treason. Yeah, yeah, right. Well, that's something that didn't exist, and.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (33:14)

Then taking it out of the political realm and having our own intelligence agencies and law enforcement in this country carrying the water of that dirty dossier and.

Eric Trump (33:22)

Spying on the campaign right into Trump Tower.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (33:24)

And you got Jim Comey up there being like, I'm not gonna tell you the provenance of this DOSSIER, but, hey, Mr. President Elect, did you pee on Russian prostitutes? Yeah. Like, one of the darkest moments in American history.

Eric Trump (33:35)

The moment that opened my eyes to all of this. I'm not sure if I told the story in the book, but I'm not sure if I've ever told the story publicly. I went down to the FBI headquarters, and I got a call. There's a serious threat against Trump Organization. We got to get you down here. And I got a shift. Okay, what is this? So I go down. We go into a skiff, right? You sign away your life. You go into a skiff. You leave your phone. Sir, there's a. There's a cyber threat against Trump Organization. I go, okay, now I'm rolling my eyes because guess what? You know, anybody with, like, you know, two people in it can. Can see this, right? You know, we've seen this before. Okay, so, okay, tell me more. You know, is it China? You know, they just shake their heads no. Is it. Is it Russia? They shake their heads no. Is Iran. And I just see these, like, you know, this little eyes get, like. All right. Okay, guys, so. So you mean to tell me that Iran's trying to hack into the Trump Organization? Shocking. Like, this is the least shocking thing I've heard all day. Sir, you can't tell anybody. You can't tell anybody. This is. And they gave me nothing. They had nothing.

Josh Holmes (34:24)

Like, why are you telling me?

Eric Trump (34:25)

And so, anyway, we leave. Thanks so much. I'll make sure we're all buttoned up from a cybersecurity standpoint. And. And I'm driving out the front of FBI headquarters in the basement. No one. I mean, no one in our company who knew where I was going. No one knew I was going down there. I'm driving up the ramp going out of the FBI building. My phone rings. It's a friend of mine that works for ABC News. Eric, how was FBI Headquarters? No, John Santucci is a friend. He works at abc. And he. I go, john, I'm not down at FBI Headquarters. What are you talking about? He goes, eric, you're down at MPI headquarters. I know this for a fact. I go, john, no, I'm not. I have no idea what you're talking about. And I go, by the way, John, even if I was, how would you know? Well, their press office in Washington, D.C. just told us that they're briefing you on a threat to the company against Iran. And I go, I had a Secret Service. I can only say this because he's out of the Secret Service now. The head of my Secret Service detail, he heard this conversation. I put it on speaker, and I just saw him, this big guy from North Carolina. I saw him literally clench his fists like he wanted to go fight, like he couldn't believe how we'd just been. And he goes, I can't believe it. Like, I can't believe I'm under. And by the way, this isn't. So many of my great friends are FBI. This is nothing against them. They're amazing. This is the politics that was happening at the time, right? No different than them manipulating the FISA warrants. No different than them spying on my father's campaign. Totally different than the games where James Comey, every single day is leaking to the New York Times. Like, yeah, like, don't we want FBI directors to be making sure that planes don't fly into buildings in New York City?

Josh Holmes (35:53)

That should be on the.

Eric Trump (35:54)

Like, I think that'd be the priority. Not, like, literally leaking your. You know, you're airing your dirty laundry to. To, you know, the front pages of the New York Times. But, you know, maybe guys, maybe I'm just old school in.

Josh Holmes (36:05)

Well, if you have, like a. I mean, I think you described it well, but if you have a salt shaker of integrity, you're literally unable to do the shit that they were doing to you. All right? You know, just a touch of it.

Eric Trump (36:17)

You wouldn't even think about. Like, they're like, trump colluded with Russia. I'm like, we weren't smart enough to collude with Russia. Like, like, like, like it's a great idea.

Michael Duncan (36:24)

Like, like.

Eric Trump (36:25)

But we weren't smart enough. Like, guys, we didn't know what a fricking delegate was. We built the tallest skyscrapers in the world, the best golf courses. We were in hospitality. We were really good at turning stuff around. We were great at taking broken things and turning it around and making an exceptional. I remember we're like seven, eight states in. I'm sitting there saying, we keep on winning all these states, but we're not actually winning the delegate count. Like, what's wrong? Then I realized you actually had to wine and dine the delegates. Right?

Josh Holmes (36:50)

Maybe we should talk to somebody about this.

Eric Trump (36:52)

I never Forget it. In Pennsylvania, I went to boarding school in Penny. I called up every delegate. There's 51 delegates. I called up every single delegate in the state of Pennsylvania. I'm like, you know, so great to speak to you. You know, Eric Trump would love your support. Like my girlfriend, my ex girlfriend lived in your town when I went to boarding school. 27. I'm trying to do anything to be relatable to these people. And, and we, we won every delegate in the state of Pennsylvania. I think every but one in the state of Pennsylvania. As soon as we, like, understood how the game was created, we gotta do. That's the system now. I got it. It's like playing chess for the first time. Like you don't know how all the pieces move.

Josh Holmes (37:23)

Well, you all figured it out.

Eric Trump (37:24)

So when they say you colluded with Russia, I'm sitting there saying, guys, we weren't smart enough to collude with Russia. We're trying to figure, we're trying to figure out what caucus in Iowa was like this. This was not our world.

Josh Holmes (37:33)

You know, last thing I'm worried about is Moscow. I'm trying to figure out Des moines.

Eric Trump (37:40)

It'S negative 20 right now. I'm freezing my butt off. I'm about to speak at the caucuses. Like, you know. Yeah, exactly. Vladimir isn't exactly top line.

Josh Holmes (37:48)

But listen, I know you got to get out of here. You got a big day, you got a bunch of stuff to do. We can't thank you enough. This book, Under Siege, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation. You gotta get it. You can get it absolutely anywhere. Order it online. It is an absolute must read story that you're not gonna hear anywhere else. It turns out everybody else feels that way too. Cause they're ordering it hand over fist. Let's keep this going every couple weeks. Let's just blow it out.

John Ashbrook (38:09)

I love it.

Eric Trump (38:10)

I love it, honestly. I love the personality. You guys are killing it. I just saw your number one, so congratulations.

John Ashbrook (38:15)

Thank you.

Josh Holmes (38:16)

It's been fun.

Eric Trump (38:16)

Number one in politics and you guys are freaking rocking. So we love you guys. Thanks for the support. You're the man, Eric. Thanks for having me on. It's, it's great to be here.

Josh Holmes (38:23)

Thanks.

Eric Trump (38:23)

See ya.

Josh Holmes (38:24)

See ya.

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Josh Holmes (39:00)

Okay. Well, that's a hell of an interview. It's very nice of Eric to drop by the old studio and talk some stuff. I just. I enjoy talking to him so much. Because you have such a candid conversation about, like, stuff that's hard to even conceptualize. Right. I mean, that family's been through the wringer.

Michael Duncan (39:20)

Well, that's the thing is, like, I'm listening to the interview, and I was like, I'm amazed he has such a sense of humor because it's some dire circumstances. So, like, you know, every possible Democrat and every prosecutor is trying to jail my entire family. He's like, but here's the funny part. And I'm like, well, yeah, that's amazing, because I wouldn't find anything funny. I'd be pissed off all day.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (39:39)

You know, and just as an observer, you know, you look at all of that and you think to yourself, man, it'd be easy for him to go and play golf for the rest of his life.

John Ashbrook (39:47)

Totally.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (39:47)

You know what I mean?

Josh Holmes (39:48)

Yeah.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (39:49)

But I think Eric did such a good job of basically explaining, like, where the headspace was of the whole family when all that was going on. And again, I think it's a huge public service just to write the book for history, because it's very easy. And if you listen to anyone in the mainstream media, they have amnesia about all the shit that they put this family through, and, you know, all back from Russia Gate and Comey and everything, everything through to 2024. So, like, at the very least, like, you know, that is now recorded for all of history.

Josh Holmes (40:21)

Well done.

John Ashbrook (40:22)

And to Josh's point, I mean, he did it all with great humor. I mean, the guy has an A plus personality. The apple does not fall. Far from it. I mean, you could tell even. Even when the cameras weren't on. Great personality. He's like the kind of guy that you. He's very, very normal. Yeah, dude.

Michael Duncan (40:39)

The best is after the cameras were off, he looks over at Ashbrook's hat, and he was like, pebble Beach. Why is that a Trump national hat?

Eric Trump (40:45)

I need to get you a hat.

John Ashbrook (40:47)

So good.

Michael Duncan (40:48)

Always on.

Josh Holmes (40:50)

Well, we appreciate it, and he's welcome here anytime. I have a feeling that there are more good times to come. On all that front, the whole discussion led us, and I think he prompted us this part of the conversation for Our question of the day, which is a fantastic one, cuz we were thinking about all the things that he was saying. What an amazing time for him to be here and talking about this just obvious massive global win that his father has engineered. What would the world look like if Kamala Harris was President of the United States?

Michael Duncan (41:22)

That's an incredible question.

Josh Holmes (41:23)

What would it look like?

John Ashbrook (41:24)

Shudder to think.

Josh Holmes (41:25)

Yeah, I mean, really horrible stuff, right? I mean, I don't know. You guys are gonna have some good answers. We have some thoughts on that too. When you like and subscribe to the Ruthless Variety program, we read every single one of them, we summarize them and get back to you in the very next episode. You always come up with some great stuff and I can't wait for this one because I gotta imagine some dark humor and then some reality. I can't wrap my mind around beyond the reality of it. Cause it would be scary.

Michael Duncan (41:51)

Scary time would not be great.

Josh Holmes (41:54)

All right, so our last question of the day that we got back to you on Friday. Thanks so much for listening to that great interview with Senator Kenned. Blast on that. But who are the top three craziest Democrats and why? We covered a lot last week. I mean there was just a ton. And when you like and subscribe and leave your comments, we read them all and we read them back to you. And we start with the Voice.

John Ashbrook (42:16)

Okay, first one comes from K.C. casey writes, Katie Porter scares the shit out of me even at a vast distance. She's giving Kathy Bates and Misery vibes and I don't like it at all.

Michael Duncan (42:29)

Oh, that's so good.

Josh Holmes (42:31)

That visual is pretty much dead on.

Michael Duncan (42:36)

She's gonna hobble you, man. That comparison, my God, I love my favorite.

Josh Holmes (42:41)

We didn't even get into too much of this, but like there was a second clip that came out after we did our. Our show of her screaming at her staff, get the out of my shot. Or whatever it was that she said. And, and like the observation of the fact that the staff didn't even bat an eye at it.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (42:55)

No, did bat an eye.

Josh Holmes (42:56)

They were like, okay.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (42:56)

Also that poor woman in the background was wearing a mask.

Michael Duncan (43:02)

I mean like that observation. I think it was MK Hammer who had that one that she was like, the Stafford just acted normal. Like she shouted. Like she's shouted at get the F out of my shot.

Josh Holmes (43:13)

She's like mid mid thought on an answer and then get the fuck out of my shot. And the staff's like, I mean like.

Michael Duncan (43:18)

It'S a clear indicator. They're just like Used to the abuse.

Josh Holmes (43:20)

Beaten down, you know.

John Ashbrook (43:21)

You know why she's wearing a mask, by the way? All these years after Covid? She's wearing a mask because someone in Katie Porter's office, I guess gave her Covid one time and there's these messages where she yells at her over text, you gave me Covid. How could you do this? And basically fires the kid so that that girl walking behind the same thing to happen.

Josh Holmes (43:44)

That is a good reminder. All right, Dunks, what do we got in comment too?

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (43:47)

This is from Bob Kelly. Bob writes, question of the day. I'd like to nominate Oregon Democrats as the crazies du jour. If I have to limit the list to only three. Let's go with number one, Governor of Oregon Tina Kotick, who not only states publicly that there's no violence in Portland, but apparently said the same in private phone calls to Kristi Noem and Donald Trump. Imagine the chutzpah.

Michael Duncan (44:10)

Yeah, seriously.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (44:11)

Mayor of Portland Keith Wilson.

Josh Holmes (44:13)

Yeah, guy's doing a bang up job.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (44:15)

Who met recently with Kristi Noem, convincing her to send four times more federal officers due to his lack of cooperation and unconcern. Number three, former Portland mayor Ted Wheeler. I mean this guy's a real gem.

Josh Holmes (44:29)

Totally.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (44:30)

Who oversaw the destruction of his city over eight years and is essentially himself a leader of Antifa.

Josh Holmes (44:35)

Oh my God.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (44:36)

Antifa's greatest crime was the destruction of downtown Portland. Elk statue. Elk Live Lives matter.

Josh Holmes (44:43)

Oh, dude.

John Ashbrook (44:44)

Sensing a theme.

Michael Duncan (44:45)

Yeah, right.

John Ashbrook (44:45)

Bob's submission.

Michael Duncan (44:47)

Someone's seen some shit.

John Ashbrook (44:48)

Bob.

Josh Holmes (44:48)

Bob. Those are good nominations. Nominations. All right, smug. What do we got? Comment 3.

John Ashbrook (44:53)

Comment 3.

Michael Duncan (44:54)

This is one of the greatest usernames I think I've ever seen. Bronk d'. Artender. Now, question of the day. Let's not ignore the orca in the room, fellas. J.B. pritzker. Oh, there we go. Is my top contender for crazy. Not only because of his incendiary rhetoric and calls for sedition or his terrible and corrupt policies that have driven taxes through the roof and sent business is fleeing the state of Illinois. But he is hubristic enough to believe that all this actually qualifies him as deserving the seat as the President of our American Union. Second place goes to Brandon Johnson. Though he is definitely more stupid than crazy. He is dangerously Marxist and unbalanced enough to double down on his failed far left progressive strategies while peacocking at press conferences declaring toothless executive orders. And third, Dickie Durbin cuz f him sound reasoning.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (45:44)

What more can be said?

John Ashbrook (45:45)

What I noticed here is we have one guy basically pointing out Democrats up and down the ballot in Oregon and another guy up and down the ballot in Illinois. It just seems to be a problem with Democrats.

Michael Duncan (45:56)

It really does.

Josh Holmes (45:56)

It seems like maybe there's a partisan hue to this conversation. And I do like the fact that mayors are taking a bath on this. They don't get nearly enough attention.

Michael Duncan (46:05)

And also, I will give both of those previous respondents tremendous credit because from what we've seen after President Trump's turnaround of D.C. you know, the failure is a choice. This has been a choice. It's shown to be a choice. And it's Democrat leadership of states and cities that have caused it. Good on our listeners for calling that out.

Josh Holmes (46:24)

Yeah, totally. And also, like, what's with these people saying, like, no, there's no problem, no crime problem.

Michael Duncan (46:31)

You let your own citizens have to live with these nightmares. They're like, no, it's fine.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (46:37)

They profit off of human misery, dude.

Michael Duncan (46:39)

They really do.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (46:39)

It's like, this is the left wing politics through and through. Not just the people in power, but the NGOs and the whole network of people around them that are all paid for, you know, go in and solve these problems. None of it ever changes. Remember, they're going to stop homelessness. Right. You know how much money California spent trying to end homelessness?

Michael Duncan (46:55)

And that's the thing, like, absolute grift. I saw Elon pointed out this past weekend on X. He had these statistics of like, these, like, NGOs in San Francisco that essentially make all, with grants and stuff, a million dollars per fentanyl addict. So they're like, we're not here to solve the addiction. We want to give them clean meals.

Josh Holmes (47:14)

They're perpetuating it. Exactly, yeah. I mean, if you had any question about whether Duncan's point is the right one, consider looking around at university campuses today and trying to find the pro Hamas constituency thanking President Trump for ending the conflict. Right. We were told cease fire now.

Eric Trump (47:33)

Now.

Josh Holmes (47:34)

Right, like now. Okay, done. What do you have to say about that?

Michael Duncan (47:39)

Yeah, I mean, I was seeing some editorials this couple days of like, so in Gaza, they're celebrating because President Trump ended it. Israel, they're celebrating because President Trump ended it. But for Gaza to be celebrating that it's over. And you do not see any of these, like, American leftists to be celebrating their cause isn't for the Palestinian people or anything.

Josh Holmes (48:01)

Never was.

Michael Duncan (48:02)

Never was.

John Ashbrook (48:02)

Never was.

Michael Duncan (48:03)

They just wanted to go after Trump and like, oh, no. Trump made world peace, God damn it.

Josh Holmes (48:06)

Well, and they tried to like pigeonhole in. I mean, I don't doubt that there are some Americans that, you know, they don't correctly understand the history of that conflict and they have a huge compassionate component for innocent people stuck. And I get that deeply.

John Ashbrook (48:24)

But.

Josh Holmes (48:24)

But if you do the math on all of that and you really cared, what you see is a Democratic party that pigeonholes their ideology into a bunch of well meaning people and then you put on top of that a bunch of people who are effectively terrorists, pro Hamas people. And their problem over there wasn't that it wasn't a ceasefire, it was that it wasn't going their way. Essentially. Like they're the same ones that took to the street on October 7th in New York City celebrating the anniversary of the horrific massacre of innocent people. Like, you can't. And they call it a Michigan problem.

Eric Trump (48:59)

Right.

Josh Holmes (48:59)

I mean, it's just such a vacant ideology at this point. It's just, it's disgusting. But that's where we are. Speaking of Vacancy, we played a Kamala clip for Eric, which she had a great take on, but she wasn't done quite yet. There's one little bit of revealing information that I think the Variety program had flagged quite some time ago and it turns out all to be true.

Interviewer/Reporter (49:21)

Clip 2 I want to get to some news that just came out today with President Biden.

Michael Duncan (49:27)

This guy Eugene is Ash Cook's friend, by the way.

Interviewer/Reporter (49:30)

He's going to now start doing radiation for his prostate cancer. Have you talked to him?

Political Commentator (49:36)

Yeah, no, I called him earlier.

Interviewer/Reporter (49:38)

How's he doing?

Political Commentator (49:39)

I have not talked to him. I just left him a message after.

Michael Duncan (49:42)

I heard the news.

Eric Trump (49:43)

I was.

Political Commentator (49:46)

On the event, at the event. I listen, I think Joe Biden is a fighter and that is what I told him. And left him a message and left him a message and he's gonna fight this and we're gonna hold him up and pray for his recovery and for his strength and for his family.

Interviewer/Reporter (50:05)

You write about him a lot in the book. Have you talked to him about the book?

Eric Trump (50:08)

Yes.

John Ashbrook (50:08)

Yeah. What did he say?

Eric Trump (50:09)

I'm not gonna tell you.

Interviewer/Reporter (50:10)

Oh, come on.

Eric Trump (50:11)

Let's just say that, right?

Interviewer/Reporter (50:13)

Madam Vice President, thank you so much for coming on.

Political Commentator (50:15)

You're appreciate it.

Josh Holmes (50:17)

I wouldn't want to follow up on that one.

Michael Duncan (50:20)

Goodness, dude.

Josh Holmes (50:20)

Did he like it?

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (50:22)

Yeah.

Josh Holmes (50:22)

Did he like when you threw him under the bus?

Eric Trump (50:24)

Right.

Josh Holmes (50:25)

How did he feel about that when you said that it was a, a problem, that she takes personal responsibility, that she didn't throw his ass out earlier? Like, how do you feel about that.

Michael Duncan (50:35)

That was just so incredible for so many reasons. First off, Ash Book's friend, Eugene Daniels. Absolute clown of a guy. Right. And these are softball questions. It's not like Kamala always makes every situation uncomfortable because she's a weird person. She's a weird person. She never had to, like, be able to connect to people.

Josh Holmes (50:58)

Yeah. It's a vacancy.

Michael Duncan (50:59)

Yeah. Because she's up through that, like, California Democrat machine where they fail up and fail up and fail up and fail up. Normally you meet politicians who have been, like, the head of their party's ticket, and they're relatable. Like, everyone can say whatever you want about Bill Clinton. He was a monster.

Eric Trump (51:14)

Sure.

Michael Duncan (51:15)

But they'd be like, when he spoke to you, you felt like you're the only person. When you speak to Kamala. Everyone's, like, cringing and on edge of, like, this weird lady. To the point where, like, Joe Biden sees it on his phone call from Kamala Harris. He puts that shit on silent.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (51:30)

He's like, no, okay, so, all right. I actually have to give Eugene Daniels some credit here because I really like the sequencing of those questions. Because you ask him first the question.

Josh Holmes (51:38)

The cancer question.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (51:39)

The cancer question.

Michael Duncan (51:40)

Right.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (51:40)

Oh, well. Left him a voicemail.

Michael Duncan (51:42)

Yeah.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (51:43)

And it's like, okay, well, did you talk about the book in which you savaged him?

Eric Trump (51:46)

You know what I mean?

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (51:47)

Like, it was actually well sequenced to make her look ridiculous.

Josh Holmes (51:50)

That's not bad. I would have liked to have had a follow up or two. But I also. I mean, it's hard not to come away with the full takeaway that her relationship with the former president, United States, amounts to having his phone number. Yeah, like, that's it. There wasn't anything there.

John Ashbrook (52:05)

Which, you know, that whole word salad. Plenty to dunk on, but one crouton I'd like to take off the top, please. I don't know if this occurred to you, just the thought of what happens to Joe Biden's messages. I'm sure that some staffer puts them down on a paper and then walks into his room and reads them to him. And can you imagine the volume with which that staffer has to read the messages? Mr. President, Kamala says she hopes you're okay. Huh?

Eric Trump (52:34)

Huh?

Michael Duncan (52:35)

She says she hopes you're okay.

John Ashbrook (52:36)

Kamala, can you imagine that conversation? Because that is one that. I would love to be a fly on the wall.

Josh Holmes (52:42)

I can't imagine.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (52:42)

I mean, I just. They hate each other's guts.

Eric Trump (52:44)

They do. They do.

Michael Duncan (52:45)

That's the thing is they hate Each other terribly.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (52:48)

And it's all the more rewarding after all the fake phony bullshit where they forced him out. And then, remember during the Dem convention, you know, Biden shows up to give his speech, and Kamala's conveniently not there. This whole choreographed thing where she's up in Milwaukee and he's down in Chicago. Oh, we love you, Joe. Oh, Joe. Oh, we're so than thankful to have you, Joe. And now she can't even get him on the phone.

Michael Duncan (53:12)

And also, like, dude, that's a great callback. Because here's the thing is, not only was Kama not there, but, like, after Joe said his thing and they gave him a horrible time slot too. Oh, yeah, after he said his thing, they jetted his ass out of there. They're like, we don't want you in the building when Kamal is around. He probably didn't want to be in the building when Kamal's around because his ass got robbed. They kicked him off the ticket, took his shit. And that family specializes in stealing shit. So to rob these people, it takes a certain kind of talent, right? Because that's their bread and butter. Like, the Bidens are the kings of doing that shit. So for him to get robbed and played, you know, he didn't want to show up and have to do that shit anyways. But for him to be like, I won't even answer her phone calls, she's like, yeah, I left him a message. I would not have. She should not have admitted that.

Josh Holmes (53:56)

She should not have admitted.

Michael Duncan (53:57)

She should have been like, absolutely. I gave him a call. And listen, he's in our thoughts because he's going through a lot right now during this, like, you know, cancer recovery, kind of to like, let him know that I don't want to talk about it. So if you're like, you know, someone's dealing with the cancer stuff, it's kind of like, leave him alone.

Eric Trump (54:09)

Yeah. No, she just went.

Michael Duncan (54:10)

She's like, well, I left a voicemail. He left my shit on red. You know what I mean? To admit that is hilarious.

Josh Holmes (54:18)

What's so funny? To me, it just goes to show how dumb she is and how that dumb that campaign was in that they literally broke apart that relationship to a point where the active hostilities. And we were reading between the lines.

Michael Duncan (54:33)

Real time, we were telling everyone this.

Josh Holmes (54:35)

Like, when you called back that thing when she did the big speech, and he was like, yeah, they're all trash and covers garbage, like, and stepped all over it. But that was, like, replete throughout that whole thing to the point where they wouldn't show up the conventions together and all of that. And yet, when given the opportunity to try to distance herself publicly from it, she's like, no, we're, like, very close, and we would do the same thing. So she got all the liabilities of having a close relationship and all of the liabilities at not actually having a close relationship. Like, that's politics 101, man.

Eric Trump (55:05)

Great point. Let's.

Josh Holmes (55:06)

Like, she just figured it was the worst possible way to play that.

John Ashbrook (55:09)

Yeah.

Josh Holmes (55:10)

And it continues to this day. It says, write the voicemail.

Michael Duncan (55:13)

I mean, that's just. That's. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving, horrible person.

John Ashbrook (55:17)

You think that Biden had the phone right next to him and he went, honored, dude?

Michael Duncan (55:21)

That's my guess. 100%.

Eric Trump (55:23)

Yeah.

Michael Duncan (55:24)

I mean, like, the only thing worse.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (55:25)

Than radiation therapy is talking to Kamal.

Michael Duncan (55:28)

A hundred. So we've heard. Like, you know, the Biden family has hit tough times because their entire business. And it was a family business. Business was based on grifting for access. Right? I mean, so when Hunter had that interview, remember, like, a month or two ago with that weird YouTube channel guy?

Josh Holmes (55:46)

Oh, yeah.

Michael Duncan (55:48)

He had daggers out for Kamala. And he is actually, at this point, probably the mouth of the Biden family. He's putting it out. So he was like, I cannot believe the audacity of these people. They're scumbags. Kamala's a scumbag. We hate them.

Josh Holmes (56:02)

Obama's a scumbag. He's a scumbag.

Michael Duncan (56:05)

He said, the Pod bros. He was like, they're a bunch of scumbags. And it was.

Eric Trump (56:09)

It was.

Michael Duncan (56:10)

It was hilarious. And then Kamala's like, ah, shit, I gotta make some money off this book deal. I don't have shit going on. So she's gotta come out and act like everything's normal. And for her to then admit, no, Biden answer. He won't answer my phone calls. That's what that clip said. Biden won't answer my phone calls. I haven't heard back from him. Cause it's not like she's like, oh, I left a message. And then when he called me back, he said this. No, he's not calling back. He's not picking up.

Josh Holmes (56:35)

Did not call back.

Michael Duncan (56:36)

Amazing.

Josh Holmes (56:37)

We've known about the cancer.

Eric Trump (56:38)

It.

Josh Holmes (56:38)

For quite some time, right?

Eric Trump (56:40)

Exactly. It's not like I saw the diagnosis.

John Ashbrook (56:45)

And I wanted to call you and just let you know I'm thinking about it.

Josh Holmes (56:48)

Jeez. In the last six months, I picked it up and left you a voicemail. And then she kind of like danced through the talking about the book thing. She's not going to tell. I don't think she talked to him. I don't think she.

Michael Duncan (56:57)

Not at all.

Josh Holmes (56:58)

I don't think she did. Anyway, this is worth talking about. You know how we like. We like fights, we like animals, and we like sports. This doesn't include the animal component. Unless you're like, you know, being figurative about it. But I will say there's a new boxing league that has shown up that we just saw an X. And so I don't know a lot about it, but I do know the clip, and it sounds fantastic. A new boxing league that is just hockey fights. It's called BKFC Ice Wars. It was founded earlier this year. Take a look at this clip. 3.

Eric Trump (57:30)

This is going to be a good one.

Michael Duncan (57:31)

Oh, yes, dude. It is just straight up.

Josh Holmes (57:33)

It's the size of a ring with bull boards. And they come all right.

Michael Duncan (57:38)

And they don't even have gloves.

Josh Holmes (57:39)

No, no.

Michael Duncan (57:40)

It's just straight to it, dude.

Josh Holmes (57:41)

No gloves. And look at this, dude. Dude, I think this is gonna be a hit.

John Ashbrook (57:56)

It's gonna be a huge hit.

Josh Holmes (57:57)

I think this is fantastic.

John Ashbrook (57:58)

Do you remember. I mean, I would have loved to have seen this in the days of, like, Bob Probert and stu Grimson, Basil McCrae. Yeah, they put out those VHS tapes once a year. You have a highlight. I got all the best fights.

Josh Holmes (58:11)

Yeah, I had them all when I was a kid.

John Ashbrook (58:13)

This is such a great concept.

Josh Holmes (58:14)

It's a great concept. But I mean, like, I don't know what the qualifications are to get here. Like, I don't know if you've had to have played. I mean, you clearly, if you're taking battle here, you have no idea the amount of balance he's got.

Michael Duncan (58:25)

Because it's not like they're just normal boxers and they're like. But here's the deal. We're going to have you on ice skates and no gloves.

Eric Trump (58:29)

Gloves.

Michael Duncan (58:29)

Because, like, they wouldn't sign up for that. This has to be. You got to be played.

Josh Holmes (58:33)

Yeah, you gotta. And then, like, these are the kind of guys that if you encounter on a golf course, do not talk.

Michael Duncan (58:38)

Yeah, that's a hard lesson learned by some folks. But the thing is, is a couple things. So first off, to me, they did look like current or former hockey players because they do the kind of. You know what I mean? It's like the hockey fight move of, like, grabbing the collar and doing the over ram punches. So it looked like a classic hockey fight. But on a personal level, this is tremendous because so many times I have to get invited to these hockey games here, you know, And I appreciate the invites and such, you know, but for.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (59:08)

Me, you appreciate that.

Michael Duncan (59:10)

But for me, it's more about, like, you know, talking to the people there, because hockey is a very boring spot.

Josh Holmes (59:15)

You are such a Travis.

Michael Duncan (59:18)

It's like, wow, gents, we're at the edge of our seats. Final score, 1 to 0. Excellent use of my, what, 90 minutes, 2 hours of my time to see one goal.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (59:26)

I feel like 10 is pretty, pretty rare. Actually.

Michael Duncan (59:28)

It's fairly common. It's extremely common. You know, this is not exactly watching an NFL game where you got red zone going. Because red zone for hockey, be just dudes skating back and forth and, oh, look at that, he pissed.

Eric Trump (59:39)

Oh.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (59:40)

Hockey is constant action.

Michael Duncan (59:41)

What are you talking about? There is no constant action. The only thing you root for is the fight. So, like, this just cuts to the chase.

Josh Holmes (59:46)

Soccer cuts.

Michael Duncan (59:47)

You're gonna see just as many goals made watching this than the average hockey player.

Josh Holmes (59:52)

I can't believe you went negative. I didn't know you had that in you.

Michael Duncan (59:56)

Every time we go see a hockey player, what am I doing? I'm talking to everybody there. I'm having a great time with the people. Because chances are, the odd thing is, like, people who enjoy hockey are good people, but the sport isn't. So it's a strange situation, you know? Like, you always have someone to talk to, have a beer and chat and hang out with, and that's a great time. My back is to the game, like, the entire time.

Josh Holmes (60:14)

Most of the time, I can see his takes coming. This is not one of them.

Michael Duncan (60:17)

It's the truth. Every time we're there, I'm the one who's just like, all right, I'm gonna go talk to. I haven't caught up with him in a while. I haven't caught up with him in a while.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (60:23)

You know, my favorite thing?

Michael Duncan (60:24)

And everyone's fun to chat. Cause there's nothing to miss. What you're gonna miss not seeing a goal.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (60:29)

My favorite thing in all of this, sort of tacitly left unsaid, is that he's in a suite for all these guys.

Josh Holmes (60:35)

Oh, that is tacitly left on set. It's true. He's like, I got the popcorn.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (60:39)

I'm turning around. I'm talking to people.

Josh Holmes (60:41)

Yeah. Checking out what kind of IPAs they.

Michael Duncan (60:43)

Have in the fridge. Well, I mean, that's the thing is, like, you Know, for a lot of sports, I don't typically go to live sports anymore, but if someone is kind enough, and a suite is a good place to see the game and you can talk to people and you can have a good time, and you don't have, like, I'm not going to stand up in a chair with a bunch of or, like, you know, animals going crazy.

Josh Holmes (60:57)

It's unbelievable. This is incredible on this.

Michael Duncan (61:02)

It's the only place to watch a game. I'm being honest.

Josh Holmes (61:04)

There will be a difference of opinion on that one, my friend. But that, you know, your take now was stinking.

Michael Duncan (61:08)

Like, I'm not gonna be one of those maniacs on the glass who's just like, bump into me, you know?

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (61:13)

Bump into me.

Josh Holmes (61:14)

God, you're such a bastard. All right, so there is one thing we've been tracking here. Trudeau. Terrible president, awful human being, great synopsis.

John Ashbrook (61:25)

Yeah.

Josh Holmes (61:26)

You know, I mean, we're all. It's all well documented at this point, but he also has got this sort of, like, Hollywood thing that he's always had where it's like, I don't know his full story, but it seems like to some people, the left wing lunatics all kind of find him attractive at some level.

John Ashbrook (61:43)

I think it all started with his father, Fidel Castro. Hollywood loved Fidel Castro. They love his son even more.

Josh Holmes (61:51)

So we got this graphic, too, if you don't mind tossing that one up. All right, so that's Trudeau and Katy.

John Ashbrook (61:57)

Perry better than Katie Porter.

Josh Holmes (61:59)

Oh, my God. Well, I don't think that boat could hold that situation. Certainly not the roof. I know that you want to talk about a hole in me boat, that would be the full SS Minnow in no time if Porter was on that sucker. But this is Katy Perry allegedly up here making out with Justin Trudeau. Now, she has made her way around. I feel like. Am I breaking news on that? I see a picture with her with somebody else every single day. But apparently, Trudeau is now the topic du jour. And Katy Perry. What do we think about this one?

Michael Duncan (62:38)

I mean, hold up. That was amazing. Wind up, dude.

Josh Holmes (62:42)

Dude, am I wrong?

Michael Duncan (62:43)

Trudeau was destroyed. He's a bad human then. Well, that's Carrie Pay. She's been around the boy Buckle. You know, every time I open the paper, it's another guy. Huh? How about this one? Like, amazing. To start with, I was gonna go with the obvious joke of, like, finally, she kissed a girl and liked it. He's like, so Katy Perry. Am I right, fellas? A lot of guys been There, hanging out with her. She's always got a new guy. What's that? What's that about?

Josh Holmes (63:05)

I mean, I'm not. I'm not out of school on that. She's been linked to everyone.

Michael Duncan (63:10)

Oh, what's his name? The elf from Lord of the Ring Rings.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (63:13)

Orlando Bloom.

Michael Duncan (63:14)

That's the one. Like, he was married to her, wasn't he? Yeah, or they were together.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (63:18)

I think they were dating.

Michael Duncan (63:19)

Or these Hollywood types. Boy, they never settled down.

Josh Holmes (63:20)

Well, that Brit comedian guy was left wing, turned right wing.

Michael Duncan (63:24)

Him too. And then wasn't she was married to.

Josh Holmes (63:27)

Him for a stage.

Michael Duncan (63:28)

Wasn't it a country guy, too? Wasn't it some country guy or some singer guy from when she's on that show, like America's Got Talenters? I mean, listen, I guess.

John Ashbrook (63:35)

Am I wrong?

Michael Duncan (63:36)

Dude, Holmes has a point.

Josh Holmes (63:37)

Am I wrong?

Michael Duncan (63:38)

You got four guys here trying to put the list together, and we can't get to the bottom of it.

Josh Holmes (63:41)

No, you can't. I mean, she's got numbers.

Michael Duncan (63:43)

But I will say one thing is, like, for Trudeau to, like, scold everyone of, like, the United States needs to comprehend there's a climate disaster. And that's why I'm on a yacht. Now, folks, do you know how much fuel this thing burns?

Josh Holmes (63:59)

Can we toss that back up? Hold on just one sec.

Michael Duncan (64:01)

Straight up.

Josh Holmes (64:02)

Okay, so here's the thing. You can't see the whole yacht. Maybe it's just at the top of it. That doesn't really look.

Michael Duncan (64:07)

It's a yacht. It was described in the near. It was described. Well, it's hers, I think.

Josh Holmes (64:12)

Oh, is it?

John Ashbrook (64:12)

Oh, it is hers.

Josh Holmes (64:13)

Oh, so maybe that's the. The version of events like his. Season of life, shall we say. He's the one that's doing the whoring to try to get.

Eric Trump (64:23)

Wow.

Josh Holmes (64:25)

Season of life, if you will.

Co-host (possibly Duncan or Ashbrook) (64:27)

What more can be said?

Josh Holmes (64:29)

I mean, I don't know. It just seemed like it was. The guy was president of Canada.

Michael Duncan (64:34)

It's like, yeah, you'd hope you'd have a better exit. And again, for him to so openly be like, now I'm on a yacht. We're burning more fuel. I'm with Hollywood's favorite hot potato. This is where my story ends. And Castro's looking up from hell. Like, son, I imagine so much more for you.

Josh Holmes (64:54)

Fantastic. So remember our question of the day, which was, what would the world look like if Kamala Harris would have won the selection? You're gonna have a lot of good stuff to say. You gotta like and subscribe in order to, to do it. When you do, you leave us those comments. We read every one of them. Get back to you the very next episode. Check out some merch while you're there. We got some new stuff going up and we is what a time to be alive here on the Ruthless Friday program.

Michael Duncan (65:18)

That's right.

Josh Holmes (65:18)

Just great content.

John Ashbrook (65:19)

Sure is.

Josh Holmes (65:20)

We're having a lot of fun. We're having a lot of fun with you. So thank you for joining us. And with that, fellows, I think we did it.

Michael Duncan (65:25)

I think so. Absolute banger of an episode. Gentlemen, thanks so much to Eric Trump and thank you to the Medians. Remember, just like Homestead, go to the YouTube hit that subscribe because it's more fun in video. So until next time, minions, keep the faith, hold the line and own the libs. We'll see you Thursday.

Eric Trump (65:40)

Stay ruthless.