Is Fauci Going to Prison?

Summary

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Ruthless Podcast — "Is Fauci Going to Prison?"

Hosts: Josh Holmes, Comfortably Smug, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook
Date: July 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

This charged and irreverent episode explores the high-profile Senate hearing of Dr. Anthony Fauci, delving into whether he faces meaningful legal jeopardy, or, as the hosts put it: “Is Fauci going to prison?” The Ruthless crew dissects Fauci’s unprecedented use of the Fifth Amendment, the legal nuances around presidential pardons, and the broader political and societal fallout of pandemic-era public health policy. The episode also features their usual pop-culture tangents, biting humor, and listener engagement, before round two of their satirical "King of the Hill" competition and a rapid-fire review of other recent bizarre news stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fauci's Senate Hearing and Pleading the Fifth

• Opening Salvo: The hosts immediately focus on Fauci’s testimony (00:00), noting that he took the Fifth Amendment 111 times, refusing to answer even the most basic questions.
• Rand Paul’s Role: The hosts praise Senator Rand Paul for his persistence in holding Fauci to account.
  • “This hearing would not have happened if it wasn't for the determination of this guy.” – Michael Duncan (00:18, 12:36)
• Media Critique: Fauci’s rise to “media stardom” is discussed as corrosive to both science and public trust.
  • “The more publicity that he's getting, the more the mainstream media is recognizing what they say is the brilliance of Anthony Fauci, the less scientific all of his recommendations are becoming.” – Josh Holmes (06:52)
• Irony and Accountability: The crew skewers the irony of Fauci’s silence after promoting himself during the pandemic.
  • “The guy who craved the spotlight... now he doesn't have anything to say.” – Multiple hosts (12:10-12:20)

Memorable Quotes

• “I either get answers to how this happened or I want you in prison.” – Josh Holmes (00:25, 47:55)
• “He chose to exercise [his power] in an incredibly callous, disconnected way from what any science was telling him.” – Josh Holmes (08:30)

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2. How the COVID Era Changed America

• Personal Stories: The hosts recount how COVID policies impacted their own families, kids, and mental health (03:15–05:00).
• Societal Trauma: They stress how most Americans want to forget the era, but emphasize the importance of public reckoning for future generations’ protection.

Notable Moment

• “You gotta overcome that, because believe me, it was awful. Everyone knows it was terrible.” – John Ashbrook (02:43)

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3. Fauci, “The Fifth,” and Public Health Credibility

• The Sixth Feet “Rule”: Hosts highlight Fauci’s alleged arbitrary decision-making (13:35–14:56).
  • “He just pulled that out of thin air. That number. He was like, maybe six feet should do it.” – John Ashbrook (14:07)
• Collapse of Trust: Governmental and public health trust is depicted as shattered, with skepticism likely to linger for generations.
  • “Nobody trusts the fucking government anymore.” – Michael Duncan (18:39)

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4. Legal Nuances: Pardons, Fifth Amendment, and Real Liability

• Biden’s Preemptive Pardons: The show dissects President Biden’s controversial preemptive blanket pardon of Fauci and others.
  • “Joe Biden came along and he pardoned preemptively for crimes that were not charged. A whole rash of people, including Anthony Fauci.” – Josh Holmes (33:10)
• Supreme Court Precedent (Brown v. Walker, 1896): If pardoned for an offense, you lose the right to plead the Fifth for that offense—making Fauci’s repeated refusals potentially actionable (43:32–45:20).
• Future Legal Jeopardy: The hosts discuss possible legal avenues (contempt, future charges, flipping associates) for holding Fauci accountable.
  • “If Fauci takes the Fifth... the committee could seek to compel Fauci’s testimony. A finding of contempt could follow, which is a future charge.” – Josh Holmes (36:21–36:54)

Key Segment

• Timestamp: 31:35–37:00 — Full breakdown of the legal fight over Fauci's Fifth Amendment pleas under the shadow of blanket pardons.

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5. Truth, Justice, and Moving Forward

• Desire for Answers: The show returns repeatedly to the hosts’ frustration: public wants truth, not just retribution.
  • “If we can’t get justice, at least give us the truth.” – Guest (49:06)
• Truth Commission Suggestion: An explicit call for a COVID "truth and reconciliation commission."
  • “We need to have, like, a truth and reconciliation committee, like they did in South Africa about COVID.” – Guest (47:00)

Timestamp:

• 47:00–49:10 — The co-hosts summarize their “truth or prison” stance on Fauci’s fate.

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6. From Scandal to Farce: Comparing Fauci to Mob Bosses

• Comic Relief: The crew jokes about Fauci’s Italian heritage, boxing him with notorious mobsters like Tony "Joe Batters" Accardo, famed for excessive pleading of the Fifth Amendment.
• Notable Comparison:
  • “Fauci, Accardo. All fifth, all the time.” – Josh Holmes (24:07)
  • “The fact that Fauci can’t even crack the Italian number one, I don’t know if that’s more a statement on how he’s being grilled or the history of the Italian.” – John Ashbrook (25:52)

Timestamp:

• 22:55–27:35 — Mob jokes and comic asides about the Fifth.

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7. Cultural Commentary: Hiking Mishaps & Social Satire

• The second half pivots to offbeat stories: a woman flipping an SUV in her garage and a hiker impaling himself with a trekking pole—serving as social commentary and palate cleanser after heavy political content.

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8. King of the Hill and Listener Engagement

• "King of the Hill": The hosts judge the most outlandish social media take of the week. Steve Schmidt dethrones Adam Kinzinger as new champion with a notably tasteless post on Lindsey Graham’s death (76:02–77:19).
  • “We have a new champion. Steve Schmidt.” – John Ashbrook (77:13)
• Listener Mailbag: Audience answers to “What will the DNC mortgage next?” prompt a string of comical replies about political irrelevance and crisis, e.g., mortgaging the Biden garage (80:49–82:07).

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Memorable Quotes

• “I think he's a fucking criminal. And I think what happened to this country on his advice was one of the worst things that I've seen in my adult life.” – Josh Holmes (10:50)
• “You can't operate this way. It’s not the way that we do things in this country.” – Josh Holmes (13:35)
• “The truth prevents future occurrences of what happened.” – Josh Holmes (51:30)
• “Something's got to be done here, folks.” – John Ashbrook (45:20)
• “I either get answers to how this happened or I want you in prison.” – Josh Holmes (00:25, 47:55)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–01:46 — Cold open, Fauci Fifth Amendment, intro, and headlines
• 02:09–06:15 — COVID memories, why accountability is necessary
• 06:15–14:56 — Dissection of Fauci’s Senate performance, Paul’s persistence
• 16:20–18:39 — Credibility crisis in public health, government distrust
• 22:55–27:35 — Mobster/Fauci Fifth Amendment comparison
• 31:35–37:00 — Biden pardons, legal deep dive, consequences for Fauci
• 43:32–45:20 — SCOTUS precedent, Fifth Amendment, and pardons
• 47:00–49:10 — The hosts’ “truth or prison” summation
• 51:00–55:03 — Lighthearted news break: garage SUV, hiking mishaps
• 68:05–77:19 — King of the Hill: Steve Schmidt vs. Adam Kinzinger
• 80:28–82:07 — Listener mailbag: comedic answers
• 82:31–End — Wrap-up, preview of next episode

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Summary

This episode delivers a fierce, darkly comic, and technically detailed takedown of Anthony Fauci’s recent Senate appearance, situating it as a moment of reckoning for American institutions and post-COVID political memory. The Ruthless podcasters blend legal analysis, personal anecdotes, historical perspective, and trademark irreverence, culminating in a demand for truth, accountability, and prevention of future abuses of expert and bureaucratic authority—even as they lampoon their way through political news and pop culture.

Listeners walk away with a nuanced understanding of the stakes (both legal and societal) in the Fauci saga, and a preview of the continuing conservative campaign for post-pandemic accountability.

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“I either get answers to how this happened or I want you in prison.”
— Josh Holmes (00:25, 47:55)

Transcript

[Josh Holmes]

Is Fauci going to prison?

[Michael Duncan]

The guy ruined every shred of institutional credibility American public health has when it comes to a national epidemic of some like coast to coast proportions.

[Josh Holmes]

He took the Fifth Amendment, as you heard there 111 times.

[Michael Duncan]

Rand Paul has his critics left, right, and center. This hearing would not have happened if it wasn't for the determination of this guy.

[Josh Holmes]

I either get answers to how this happened or. Or I want you in prison.

[Michael Duncan]

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[Josh Holmes]

Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please.

[Michael Duncan]

This program has become one of the most influential podcasts in America.

[John Ashbrook]

I love the personality. You guys are killing it. I just saw your number one, so congratulations.

[Michael Duncan]

Thank you.

[Josh Holmes]

It's an honor and a pleasure to welcome the great Sean Hannity. Guys, I love you. Congratulations on all your success.

[John Ashbrook]

This is why listen to the Ruthless Podcast because nobody else would ask that question. The only political podcast worth listening to is the Ruthless Podcast. It's time for our main event, the Ruthless Podcast.

[Josh Holmes]

Good Thursday to you. Welcome back to the Ruthless Variety program. I'm Josh Holmes along with comfortably smug Michael Duncan and John Ashbrook. Left, right across your radio dial is absolutely always. I'll be honest, I'm not sure what you're going to get here. We've gone through a whole bunch of emotion, the whole Fauci testimony. There's a bunch of time there that I think we'd like to forget and we didn't want to re examine. I don't know about. You guys didn't. It's like weird.

[John Ashbrook]

I think it's important to start off by saying that is because when you say the word Covid like there's for. I feel like 99% of people, it doesn't matter which person, whatever. For 99% of people, it Feels like, oh, yeah, that terrible time I would never want to revisit whatsoever. And this is a case of where you gotta overcome that, because believe me, it was awful. Everyone knows it was terrible. It was horrific. It was done to.

[Josh Holmes]

Was it that bad for you, though? I feel like you had it pretty good.

[John Ashbrook]

Let me tell you this. Charter Covid. When I went down and I was, like, staying with my grandfather because, like, news reports had you think that, like, grocery deliveries, you should give Lysol wipes or my grandfather's gonna die. Like, this was like, beyond how terribly Americans were forced to live in their homes. Kids can't go to school and everything. But it was like a psychological experiment of you'd have people like Foushee and now we know, just creating these rules of, like, if you're within six feet, you're going to kill people. It's going to be just absolute bloodbath and murder. And so all of us need to overcome that, like, block in your mind of, like, I never want to think about that time period again because accountability is finally on the way.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

I did feel like you were a frontline soldier when you were ordering your take out near alcohol delivery.

[John Ashbrook]

And that's another interesting. Like, I was thinking about that actually the other day. It's like I went through God knows how many bottles of bourbon that were, like, delivered to my place. And it's like, in hindsight, I was like, how did I not die as a result of that? But, like, that's another effect is like, so many people were, like, drinking. Like hell you were.

[Josh Holmes]

You were in a unique position where you actually didn't have, like, wife and kids at this particular moment in time.

[John Ashbrook]

We'll definitely get into it, but, like, I cannot imagine the horror, first off, that you gentlemen had. I think, Duncan, you had a child born in the hospital during.

[Josh Holmes]

I did.

[Guest/Caller]

He did.

[John Ashbrook]

You did.

[Guest/Caller]

He did. I had a six month old and a family member had a stroke the first six weeks of COVID Yeah. And that was a different sort of challenge. But we all had things, weird things that happened during that period of time you'd love to forget. But to your point, smug there is that. That instinct to kind of bury it all because it was traumatic for so many people.

[Josh Holmes]

Like, it's not going to ever show

[Guest/Caller]

up again, but it's going to.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, right.

[Guest/Caller]

And which is the whole purpose and the whole purpose of this is to examine what did happen, what was done to us, so it never happens again.

[Michael Duncan]

But what in contrast to what Anthony Fauci tried to force on every single household and small business in this country. Covid also in some ways, brought out the best of America in that the American spirit rose above and climbed out of it. And it created things like the ruthless variety program. That's right.

[Josh Holmes]

That's exactly right.

[Guest/Caller]

Way to button it all up.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. You wouldn't be listening to us without that moment in time. No question about it. Well, listen, I think Allison Krauss in the late 80s said it best when she said, you say it best when you say nothing at all. Which is what Anthony Fauci did today in clip one.

[John Ashbrook]

Dude, that's great.

[Josh Holmes]

In the red folder on your table is a copy of Section 192 of Title 2 of the U.S. code. Your counsel has been provided a copy as well. That section makes it a crime for a witness appearing under subpoena to refuse to answer any questions pertinent to the question under inquiry. Do you have that in front of you? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth Amendment, the Constitution. Let the record record that the witness has refused to answer whether there's a folder in front of him based on his fifth amendment right. Okay, so you had a very good indication at the top of a very important hearing in the United States Senate. Now, Rand Paul, to his great credit, has been all over Anthony Fauci from the very beginning. He suspected very early on, before it became politic, that this guy was making it up as he went along. Now, you also had guys like Tom Cotton who had some intel experience who were saying wuhan Labs is the thing. Remember, he got all rung up for all that, like being a traitor and all kinds of different things for suggesting that the place that manufactures Covid viruses could potentially be responsible for it. But Rand had a different point of view even back then, which is this guy has become enraptured with himself. And the more publicity that he's getting, the more the mainstream media is recognizing what they say is the brilliance of Anthony Fauci, the less scientific all of his recommendations are becoming. And he was on this in the very, very beginning. Now, of course, we cover with Ron Johnson. On Tuesday, there was a release of diaries where you got the inner monologue of Anthony Fauci, which I think very well established that Rand's theory of the case was correct and that this guy became incredibly self important about his role. But what he didn't fully understand was that there's no point in American history where anybody had more power over everyday life of Americans than He had in that very moment. And he chose to exercise it in an incredibly callous, disconnected way from what any science was telling him. And that is what, in the days preceding this hearing uncovered. That he was. Loved being an SNL skit, Loved that New York Times magazine was doing a profile on him. Love that he was all a part of the political conversation that he'd never really been a part of since the 80s and the AIDS epidemic, honestly. And so late in his career, it was a real capstone and he was going to take advantage of it. But then he also allowed an incredible injustice upon the American people, and he took the Fifth Amendment, as you heard there 111 times. His advice clearly from counsel was, you cannot say anything about anything because the whole point of this is to try to reincriminate you for crimes you may have committed and were pardoned for. Recall that the Biden administration pardoned Anthony Fauci for any crime that he may or may not have committed during the course of his tenure. But there's a real court challenge about whether or not future crimes, including perjury, would be admissible in that. And so his advice of counsel was, it doesn't matter really what they ask. You just gotta take the fifth. So he did it 111 times. And, you know, I sit here from a standpoint of, like, I don't. Yes. Am I angry at Anthony Fauci?

[Guest/Caller]

Yes.

[Josh Holmes]

I think he's a fucking criminal. And I think what happened to this country on his advice was one of the worst things that I've seen in my adult life. But at the same time, I just want recognition of what happened, and I want some concrete input about how decisions were made. And he can't get it.

[Guest/Caller]

Isn't it interesting, Holmes, that we get finally here to the Fauci hearing, And like you said, he was obsessed with his own media stardom. The media propped him up. And the third thing that happened is all people, all the people that were questioning what he was saying, their dissent was silenced at that time. And the more that Fauci's star grew, the more that dissent was punished. This happened to doctors, this happened to scientists. This happened to average Americans. This happened to people on social media because of Satan. St. Anthony Fauci in the media that propped him up. Now we get to the end of that story, and he has an opportunity in this hearing to say something. Now suddenly he's silent. Isn't that ironic?

[Josh Holmes]

Ironic?

[Guest/Caller]

The guy who craved the spotlight that that could. You couldn't get between him and a Camera and made sure anyone who disagreed

[John Ashbrook]

with him was silenced.

[Guest/Caller]

And now he doesn't have anything to say.

[Michael Duncan]

It sure as hell would have been nice to hear him say, I'm sorry, but he's an east coaster. He is a career bureaucrat. He has no understanding of the small businesses that were decimated.

[Josh Holmes]

Parts. Dude did.

[Michael Duncan]

There is an entire ecosystem of small businesses that were built by people, brick by brick over years that were completely wiped out because of the decisions of one guy who lived in Washington and saw this moment as his capstone in American healthcare. And I will say this. You know, Rand Paul has his critics left, right, and center. This hearing would not have happened if it wasn't for the determination of this guy. And I remember back in 2010 when we were working on his campaign, and here is an eye doctor from Bowling Green, and you're hoping that, like, he's more than a conservative, that this guy will approach his job with some of the enthusiasm that his old man approached his job and his career. And I think that Rand Paul has proven he is his father's son, that this is a guy who will stop at nothing to get to the answers and get justice for people whose livelihoods were decimated because of Fauci.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, he was a dog with a bone on this right from the very beginning when it was extremely impolitic to criticize Foushee. He was on it, stayed through it. And I give him great credit because, look, we do need to learn how to never do that again. You can't shut down the American economy. You can't give Americans an ultimatum about some untested medicine. You can't. You just can't operate this way. It's the way that we do things in this country.

[John Ashbrook]

And the reason it's Anthony Fauci up there is because all of these decisions, as we are now learning, were on his whims. The whole, like, social distancing of six feet, that's not like there's been some, like, medical studies or historical evidence. He just pulled that out of thin air. That number. He was like, maybe six feet should do it. And then it becomes La Costa. Think how crazy that is. That in America, a country which has the most enduring form of government, like freedom, was created here in America, right? We have the most enduring and functional form of government. But one guy, this guy is able to somehow, on his whims, create essentially how Americans are or are not allowed to live their lives, is just mad.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, he fused together pop culture opposition to President Trump, the liberal left, and the mainstream media to provide what they said was an ultimatum, guidance on how you ought to live your life. You can't leave your house regardless of whether you're 14 or you're 84, and all is the same. You have to shut down your business. Restaurants can't do business.

[Michael Duncan]

Right.

[Josh Holmes]

All of these things happen to us. And the question before the United States Congress is always like, how do we ensure that that never happens again, regardless of whether or not Anthony Fauci is someone that you want to throw in prison or not? The question is, how do you ensure that that process, whatever process that was, isn't repeated at any point for future generations of America? That's the job of people you elect to represent you. And that was the whole point of the hearing. Let's get some answers on the inputs and outputs. Because it feels very disconnected to us. It feels like you didn't know and you were just driving hard into the paint on recommendations that were frivolous at best. And yet we all suffer the consequences and we find out in the end you didn't know.

[Guest/Caller]

Well, they had to pretend. They had to stretch the truth, and sometimes they outright had to lie because they wanted compliance. And compliance only happens when you can scare the out of people.

[Josh Holmes]

And that is what the liberal left genuinely wants. It became evident in that period of time. And we were doing the program. We just started doing the program. It was. What the left ultimately wants is compliant citizenry, a government that's going to tell you exactly what it is that you need to do. You can go to work on Wednesdays, you can't go to work on Fridays. We're going to send you a little lunch ticket that you can cash in and you can maybe feed your family with it. Thank you. Thank us for that, by the way. You should thank us for our generosity.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah. At five o', clock, bang your pots and pans to thank the government for your food coupon.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

But that's the way that the liberal left viewed the world. And it was like this culmination of things. And Anthony Fauci was a centerpiece. He was the one that could execute the vision of a communist left that you've now seen with the DSA and everything else. Like, this is what those people ultimately want. Now, what was fantastic about this is that Fauci, it wasn't enough for him to just say, I plead the Fifth. I'm never going to say. I'm never going to provide any information. I have no interest in how future generations deal with the things that I was dealing With. That's what he said by pleading the fifth. I have no interest in the next epidemic 100 years from now. You can't look back to me because I'm not gonna provide any congressional testimony because I have liability here.

[Michael Duncan]

Right.

[Josh Holmes]

I can't provide you answers to critical questions because I could potentially. Me, Me.

[Guest/Caller]

What a public servant.

[John Ashbrook]

It's always been him.

[Michael Duncan]

Not for nothing, the guy ruined every shred of institutional credibility American public health has when it comes to a national epidemic of some like coast to coast proportions. And God forbid we face another situation where they're actually. Well, you can't look to him and

[Josh Holmes]

he has no answer.

[Michael Duncan]

Not only is he the boy who cried wolf, he won't even answer a question so we can get to the bottom of it so people can start to rebuild trust. It's like nobody trusts the fucking government anymore.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah, well, and he's the reason.

[Josh Holmes]

He's the reason. So interestingly enough, though, they also set up a sideshow. There was a sideshow involved. And this is part of the strategy. I can tell you when you do congressional hearings, particularly ones that are noteworthy and they're going to be live streamed on cable television, there is a whole team of people that are involved. There are multiple PR people. As Rand Paul said multiple times, there was six or seven lawyers present for Anthony Fauci during the course of that hearing. But they have to set up a sideshow. Rand Paul told Anthony Fauci, I want you at that dais because I'm asking you the questions. I'm not telling you what to answer, but I'm saying you're the person who's testifying. I don't want your lawyer talking to me. What I want is you providing testimony that is of public note and record for the American people. They disobeyed it. Ultimately, they demanded that a lawyer that Anthony Fauci hired sit next to him for whatever reason. Maybe it was the optics, whatever. Well, we soon found out it had nothing to do with the optics at all. And this guy's job was to create a chaotic moment, and Rand Paul handled it. In clip two. But the attorneys are not recognized. In fact, the attorney was told not to sit at the table and he's not obeying that recommendation. There's a row behind you, sir. That's where you were told to sit, and you're not. And now you're disrupting the proceedings. And so, look, this is the way Anthony Fauci wants to be remembered for a lawyer not listening, listening to the rules, that's the way you want to be remembered, and that's what you're going to do. You are not recognized, sir. Security, please remove him from the room.

[John Ashbrook]

That's it.

[Josh Holmes]

The left will act as though that is a outrageous proposition. Nobody ever asked for that guy.

[Michael Duncan]

Right?

[Josh Holmes]

They subpoenaed Anthony Fauci in his testimony. No, I don't know who the fuck that guy is. Like, he has no clue.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah, you don't get to bring a second to answer.

[Josh Holmes]

You don't get to bring a friend.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah, this is not who Wants to Be a Millionaire?

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah. No, this is.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, this is not. Phone a friend. He brought a friend. And they're like, all right, get his ass out of here. Thank God they did. It was fantastic. I'm sure the left is like, oh, my gosh, they threw his lawyer out. Well, which Rampoll very quickly informed the audience he had six more of them sitting behind him. So it's not like he was unrepresented. Didn't matter. He had one piece of advice and one piece of advice only. I answer nothing. I take the Fifth, no matter what. Quickly exploited by Josh Hawley in clip three. What day of the week is it today? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights

[Guest/Caller]

under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

[Michael Duncan]

What color tie are you wearing?

[Josh Holmes]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully

[Guest/Caller]

decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

[Michael Duncan]

What color is the carpet in front of you?

[Josh Holmes]

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights

[Guest/Caller]

under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

[John Ashbrook]

There it is.

[Michael Duncan]

There it is. There it is. And there were a host of senators who were laying into this guy, Bernie Moreno, Ohio's finest. I mean, this guy went into him about what he did to small businesses and why he ran for Senate and his entire reason for running for Senate. And he and Foushee had no answer. Which goes to your point about like, why the hell do you have an attorney sitting next to you if all you're going to do is say, I plead the Fifth, I plead the Fifth. Why do you need an attorney sitting next to you? I mean, it was a sideshow.

[Josh Holmes]

That's why they were trying to make it as much of a circus as they could, to try to make it seem like it was an unserious production. It was a very serious production, except for him, who was totally unserious in every single way. 111 times he was asked a question, and he took the fifth. Wolf did some research, some important research, and said, you know, like 111 seems like a lot. Is there anyone, anyone. Hillary Clinton, with the whole situation that she had anybody ever taken the Fifth that many times in one hearing? Turns out yes. The answer is one guy, Tony, quote unquote, Joe Batters, AKA Big Tuna. Accardo.

[Guest/Caller]

Accardo, Another Italian.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, he was a Chicago.

[John Ashbrook]

He didn't even get the Italian record. But I imagine that's a group it's tough to beat when it comes to taking the Fifth. Say what you will about waste management, they know their rights and they get lawyers.

[Josh Holmes]

Fauci, accardo.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

All fifth, all the time. Let's see a clip of Cardo 1A.

[John Ashbrook]

Now, Mr. Ricardo, in 1931, you and four other of the Capone syndicate include, including Paul Labriola's stepfather, were seized and raised following the torch slaying of Mike Peitler, is that correct? H E I T L E R

[Josh Holmes]

I Decline to answer.

[John Ashbrook]

Mr. Heitler was burned to death, Was he?

[Guest/Caller]

I declined to answer.

[John Ashbrook]

What grounds?

[Josh Holmes]

On the grounds that it may tend

[Guest/Caller]

to incriminate or lead me into something.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah. Why was it selected to burn that he should be burned to death?

[Josh Holmes]

I declined to answer. Did you have all the leading gangsters

[John Ashbrook]

in the United States?

[Josh Holmes]

Do you fourth of July party? Declined to answer. Ah, mama me

[John Ashbrook]

smart.

[Josh Holmes]

Fauci Accardo, world record holder.

[John Ashbrook]

That's the thing. It's a proud history of Italians of being involved in crime syndicate.

[Josh Holmes]

There it is.

[John Ashbrook]

And to avoid accountability for their actions, they've learned. You know, you say you're gonna plead the fifth, like there's a lot of money for lawyers to be made. You go into your local Little Italy, you find a bunch of guys sitting outside of Delhi and you say, hey, guys, you know, I got some advice just, you know, you might need in your waste management business. You make me your lawyer and I'll tell you to plead the Fifth. You'd make a killing if you just did that. Just find a little Italy in your town. There you go. Find a deli, look for the guy sitting outside, offer them that advice. You're gonna get some clients. But the fact that Fauci can't even crack the Italian number one, I don't know if that's more of a statement on like how he's being grilled or that, like, you know the history of the Italian.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, at this point, they hold the 1 slot and the 2 slot.

[John Ashbrook]

It's gonna be tough to beat them on that.

[Josh Holmes]

So it was Organized Crime 1 Fauci,

[Guest/Caller]

you're gonna make an argument Silver. Silver in the Italian division. It's not bad. It's not bad.

[John Ashbrook]

Which is the toughest division? I did a little bit.

[Josh Holmes]

That's a really competitive game. Division.

[Guest/Caller]

I did a little bit of research myself and I found out that Accardo is the great grandfather of Nick and Joey Bosa. And.

[Josh Holmes]

Are you serious? The defensive ends.

[Michael Duncan]

Well, they pulled us together as a family.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Did they? Joey Batters?

[John Ashbrook]

I guess.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

We'll find out this season.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, my God. So this guy was the.

[John Ashbrook]

Who's going to have more career hits? Is it going to be a Cardo or Nick Bosa?

[Josh Holmes]

Holy cats.

[Guest/Caller]

Small world.

[John Ashbrook]

Question of the day.

[Josh Holmes]

I saw. I did a little bit of Joey Joe Batter's research, and there was a subsequent hearing many years after this one where he took all of that. And they were like, how did you get the nickname Joe Batt? Your name is Tony Accardo.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

That sounds nothing like Joe Batters. How did you get that nickname? He's like, I don't know.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

And they're like, did it have anything to do with batting? Like beating people to death with a bat? And he's like, I don't know.

[John Ashbrook]

Multiple witnesses have seen you at crime scenes with a bat.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

Who knows where it came from?

[Josh Holmes]

Joey Bosa.

[John Ashbrook]

That's amazing. Amazing fact.

[Josh Holmes]

I didn't know that.

[Guest/Caller]

He's still a free agent, I think.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, not for long. Now that you figured that out, people are going to sign him real quick.

[Guest/Caller]

He's going to be with the Bears.

[Josh Holmes]

He's like, well, you can sign my deal. Or.

[Guest/Caller]

Or, yeah, you got some problems. Do it that part away.

[Josh Holmes]

It turns out the Bills have some problems. You like that new stadium, don't you?

[Michael Duncan]

You want to know who's been buried underneath it.

[Josh Holmes]

Be ashamed if something happened to it.

[Guest/Caller]

Gonna find Jimmy Hoffa under there. Ah.

[Josh Holmes]

All right. So one more thing before we leave you on this segment. Senator Ron Johnson, who we had on Tuesday, great interview, had perfect, I think, preview to what we were about to see. But he did have an interesting point that I wasn't privy to before he brought it up in clip 4. On March 27, 2020, you wrote in your diary. To my surprise, yesterday, the POTUS sent a letter to governors outlining a plan to reopen county by county while monitoring the spread of virus in low risk counties. This was half baked and never shown to Deb or I before it was sent out.

[Michael Duncan]

So we have evidence that in fact

[Josh Holmes]

you were fully aware of it and certainly approved, if not authored it. So I was just simply asking Is that true?

[Michael Duncan]

I mean, did you literally lie to your own diary?

[John Ashbrook]

Did you know of that? Amazing.

[Michael Duncan]

Sign up to governors about reopening county by county.

[Josh Holmes]

Mr. Chairman, I'd ask you to ask the witness. Just answer that one simple question. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the the constitution.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh man.

[Josh Holmes]

Did you lie to your own diary? Dun?

[Guest/Caller]

Well, you know how Burgum got the Teddy Roosevelt AI at the museum? They should have just taken Anthony Fouch's diary, scanned it into AI.

[John Ashbrook]

This is a great idea.

[Josh Holmes]

Pumped it back in.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah, pumped it back in. And then they could have done the hearing with the AI.

[John Ashbrook]

That is a brilliant idea.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

And before any of you ask, because I know you will, no, we don't know the Rand Paul staffer that's sitting behind Ron Johnson right there. I've gotten a lot of dms, a lot of like Internet traffic. I'm told she's a very capable individual who is like very serious about her job, who does a terrific job as evidenced by this hearing itself.

[John Ashbrook]

And that's specifically for the folks who are smart enough to subscribe to our YouTube. Hit that. Subscribe if you are not yet. That's because that all the comments would have been like, hold up guys. My question of the day.

[Guest/Caller]

Can I get those digits?

[Josh Holmes]

I mean, people, people listen. They got eyes and ears. It's the same reason that Anthony Fauci's in a lot of trouble. They have eyes and ears, they like to observe things. And there it is, right there out in the open. She's doing a terrific job, no question about it. As did Rand Paul, Ron Johnson and everybody who led that hearing. Although he provided no answers. I think it's the most eye opening thing that we've seen as it relates to Covid in that period of time in American history that we have seen to date. So where does it all lead? Coming up, Fauci isn't out of the woods quite yet. Real legal jeopardy as it was outlined in a bunch of different components of this testimony. We have the details right after this.

[Michael Duncan]

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[Josh Holmes]

okay, so the question is, is there liability in all of this? And there's a lot of questions about taken the fifth when you've been pardoned for things, and there's Supreme Court precedent and all these other things. Kathryn Herridge, former Fox reporter, had some interesting takes that I think are worth illuminating Here. She reports on the legal pathways to challenge this Fauci pardon. On the pardon, before the hearing, Rand Paul, a former senior Justice Department prosecutor, told me that there are three viable legal strategies to challenge the preemptive Biden pardon. Recall that Joe Biden did something entirely unique. I don't think we've ever spent enough time on the perversion of the pardon process that Joe Biden did. I think if you were to ask the average American who'd been around for the last 40 years and followed politics, they would say, like, who's the worst pardoning situation? They'd be like, oh, Bill Clinton, because he pardoned his like, brother in law and he did all these things that used to be a big deal. And then Joe Biden came along and he pardoned preemptively for crimes that were not charged. A whole rash of people, including Anthony Fauci. And there's a big legal question about whether or not that is valid. Pardoning people for crimes that aren't charged is sort of like unique territory.

[John Ashbrook]

And that's the thing. And that's why when you walk down that, like, presidential walkway that President Trump has put in the White House with the presidential portraits, it's an auto pen for Joe Biden. Because a lot of folks have said, looking at the documents, the pardons that were issued by Joe Biden at the end of his presidency is Hunters is the only one he actually signed. The rest were just like printed out with the auto pen.

[Guest/Caller]

Which is funny because he signed pardons for other members of his family.

[John Ashbrook]

That's the thing. He couldn't. Listen, I only have one boy left, and I guess I got to deal with it. So who knows, Maybe Hunter was there of like, yeah, sign this shit, old man. Or he was getting broken legs.

[Guest/Caller]

I think there's a lot of truth to that because I don't know if you remember this, but Hunter was a constant presence at the.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Guest/Caller]

In the West Wing in the final months of, of Biden's term.

[Michael Duncan]

There you go.

[John Ashbrook]

Unrelated.

[Josh Holmes]

Like Joey Batters.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah, unrelated. Those cocaine found at the White House too, in that time period. But you get the pen. Digress.

[Guest/Caller]

You get the pen or you get the bat.

[John Ashbrook]

That's the thing. And so that shows you that, like, the decision make when you have like all these Biden, Stafford administration people who are given preemptive pardons, blanket pardons, did Joe Biden even Know what was going on when the auto pen's just like hammering out.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, obviously he didn't, because we know when he signed them, we'd already established five months prior that he had no idea what was going on at all. Right, like we already know that. Like that was demonstrated in Technicolor in front of 60 million people.

[John Ashbrook]

He finally beat Medicare in a presidential.

[Josh Holmes]

He beat Medicare in front of the American people. And so we already know that he had no idea what he was doing. But these pardons hang in the balance. And look, there's a lot of legal questions about how these whole things get enacted in practice, but Herridge has some interesting thoughts. One strategy calls for charging Fauci with a crime with the expectation they file a motion with the court to dismiss based on the pardon. This could open the door to challenging the sweeping pardons viability and the years of litigation. In other words, because of the nature of the pardons that Biden signed, they were just blanket immunity, essentially, that Fauci is the tip of the spear on that situation. If somebody decided to charge him with a crime, you're not only dealing with the Fauci situation, you'd be dealing with pretty much everybody, Hunter, Biden included, that is a beneficiary of those pardons because they were so broad and unique and unprecedented in that regard. Another strategy involves Congress. Because Fauci has theoretically been preemptively pardoned against past and future criminal charges related to the NIH work, it can be argued that Fauci has no plausible claim to the Fifth Amendment, the right of self incrimination. So in other words, what he's doing there when he's pleading the Fifth, is pleading the Fifth on crimes that may or may not have been committed but that he's already been pardoned for. And you'll find out in a second why that might make more of a problem for him. If Fauci takes the Fifth at Senator Paul's hearing, which he did, the committee could seek to compel Fauci's testimony. A finding of contempt could follow, which is a future charge. It's not something that was covered by the pardon. By the pardon. Finally, one of Fauci's closest associates has been criminally charged. With the pressure and the right incentives, he might be flipped and become a cooperating witness.

[John Ashbrook]

That's the greatest fear of any Italian man. Is there, hanging out with your friends, you're looking around the room. Is anyone going to get the right incentives?

[Josh Holmes]

I mean, listen, I feel like Dr. David Morenz could be A part of that. He was a senior advisor to Fauci at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and he was indicted on multiple charges, including conspiracy, obstruction, including destruction, an alteration or falsification of federal records.

[Guest/Caller]

I don't know. Morins doesn't sound like our thing. Doesn't sound like part of the family

[John Ashbrook]

Scar Maglia, if you know what I mean.

[Guest/Caller]

You know, I don't know if he can be trusted. There we go.

[John Ashbrook]

That's the thing, because when you're here, you're family. That's gonna be. That's gonna be Fauci's lesson from this is unlimited trust your family back to, like, Sicily.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

You can't work with it.

[Josh Holmes]

There's no question that Morins can't be trusted.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Guest/Caller]

Maroney could be trusted.

[John Ashbrook]

Try to play that.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, I mean, it looks like if you add a vowel at the end of that, it's. It might work. Along with the allegations that personal email accounts were used to evade the Freedom of Information act, this could be a powerful motivator. So the point is, there's a whole bunch of things here that are a for the show in that Fauci intended to make this whole thing a circus, to pretend like it's not serious when there are actual questions that need to be answered. Regardless of his criminal culpability. You, as an American should probably have some answers on. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Let's just stop for a sec. Give them the benefit of the doubt. If you give this guy the benefit of the doubt and you say he was acting on every input that he had and he had the best interest of Americans involved, I don't believe that. But if you did, and you could say it was a tremendously chaotic, like, Black Swan event, and he was just trying to deal with it the way he wanted to deal with it. And if you were to give all of that benefit of the doubt, what you'd want to know is what are the inputs that led you to the conclusions that you did? The six feet, the mask. No mask.

[John Ashbrook]

Double mask. Dude, I'm telling you, everyone has blocked out that period of time. We're told no one isn't enough. Now, double mask.

[Josh Holmes]

Like, yeah.

[Guest/Caller]

Keeping kids out of school.

[John Ashbrook]

And don't forget, at first they said, don't wear masks. At first they said, don't wear masks because that'll actually infect. Then they said, no, actually wear a mask. And then they said, no, wear two masks. It's like, dude, this is. This is a joke.

[Josh Holmes]

What's going on here, the information that was provided on many occasions and in one in particular, I forget who asked the question. It may have been, I think it was Lankford who asked the question. He said, well, in June or May or June of 2020, we were provided, because I'm a part of the Intel Committee, classified documents that show that this situation, more likely than not, I think the words that he used were basically like, all of the conditions exist to demonstrate that this is a lab leak. He had that. And his simple question to Fauci was, you in your position, were, were you able to access that information? I don't know what your security clearance was. I know that I had it as a, as a United States Senator who was on the Intelligence Committee. I know that the President of the United States had it. I know that the speaker of the House had it. The Intelligence committees on both sides had it. Did you, in this unique position that we will undoubtedly rely on at some point in the next hundred years, have access to that information?

[Guest/Caller]

Fifth, mind you, at the time they were calling Donald Trump a racist for calling it the China Virus. Lo and behold, we find out it actually leaked out of the China Wuhan Covid lab.

[Michael Duncan]

Who would have thought.

[Josh Holmes]

But think about the role of government, way the founders set it up, and what the way you're supposed to do things when you go through a super unfortunate circumstance, you're supposed to deconstruct it, make sure that never happens again. The American people are never subjected to the same kind of hardship that they were under a certain circumstance. And so what he's trying to find out is whether somebody who has been elevated to a point where they can literally choose whether to shut down your business, your kids, school, your community, your overall everything had access to highly classified information at the time. You don't know. We, to this day don't know. He won't say. It's the fifth,

[Michael Duncan]

which is the opposite of what he was doing at the time. Front and center in Style magazine. And if you're wondering why so many people in this country are like, I'm a little bit uncomfortable with the message from the dsm, say that the government should be more powerful, the government should have more control over your life, you have right here, what we've just talked about for the last 20 or 25 minutes, an object lesson in the consequences of letting the bureaucracy and the unchecked power of people who control your lives from afar run amok. Buddy, this is, this is the reason why you do not want what the DSA has to offer because all they want is more of it. They want more Faucis. They want more political insiders doing full magazine spreads when they're pushing their message and then when the consequences come around, they're nowhere to be found. They're taking the Fifth. Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

No, I mean, it's true. So the summary of the SCOTUS rulings that pertain to what Herridge had brought forward are pretty interesting. There's a Brown v. Walker case in 1896. It's a key Supreme Court case that governs the precedent over this issue. And the court held that once a person has received a valid accepted pardon for an offense, they can no longer invoke the Fifth Amendment privilege against self incrimination with respect to, to that offense. We had two hours of it. I can think of at least six that I watched that would fall into that category. I mean, that is real question. I mean, that's damn real question. I mean, if you're, if you're talking about. It's not about the perjury. He was worried about the future offenses that he's not pardoned for. So he wanted to take the Fifth. But people asked very direct questions about whether or not he ignored or had evidence of things that he went contrary to at the time, which of course are criminal violations. And he declined to answer that. Well, the Supreme Court in Brown v. Walker, which is now 120 years, 140 years of precedent in this country. How did. He doesn't. Where are we going to fall on that? What's going to happen to this guy? Is somebody going to do something about it? Feels like somebody should do something about it. I mean, look, it's on the books for a reason.

[John Ashbrook]

Bottom line, black and white. An accepted pardon for a specific offense removes the Fifth Amendment privilege regarding that offense because the risk of prosecution no longer exists. Something's got to be done here, folks.

[Josh Holmes]

I was all about. Let me, let me just say this. I have a much more moderating view than most of our audience on it in that it was a scary fucking time.

[Michael Duncan]

Sure.

[Josh Holmes]

And I had a little bit of an old school mentality at the time that I've since disabused myself of entirely. That was, you have experts who have spent their entire life studying for this sort of thing and what they have to say is not irrelevant like you. You really ought to listen to them. You don't listen to them on a day to day basis. But when you have a once in a hundred year pandemic, surely there are five or six people within the Confines of government that have trained their entire life for this very moment. And Anthony Fauci was foremost amongst them.

[Michael Duncan]

You'd like to think they're telling you the truth.

[Josh Holmes]

So at the time, I was like, okay, I'm interested in what that guy has to say. And then in the aftermath, I was like, he was wrong about everything, and everything that we did was wrong, and it's horrible. It had massive societal problems. You're still looking at it from an education standpoint with kids and whatnot. But I thought, okay, people make mistakes. Infallible. Let's just figure out how to never do that again.

[Guest/Caller]

I would expand his pardon and say he's also pardoned for lying about everything. And we need to have, like, a truth and reconciliation committee, like they did in South Africa about COVID Like, will somebody stand up and be, like, I don't know, venting? All those people in New York probably murdered all of them. Like, say that, because that's obviously what happened. Remember the meat lockers outside of the hospitals?

[Josh Holmes]

Yes.

[Guest/Caller]

The original COVID protocols killed a bunch of people.

[Josh Holmes]

Yep.

[Guest/Caller]

More people don't know that.

[Josh Holmes]

Yep. You know, like, I want to know. I want to know whose decision.

[John Ashbrook]

Right.

[Guest/Caller]

And, like, if it means people don't go to jail, but we learn the truth, I think in the long view of history, like, that is more worth it to our society. If I had to take that. That deal right now, I would take that deal in a heartbeat. Absent that, I want the guy in prison.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

That is where you just summarize exactly where my head's at. I either get answers to how this happened, or I want you in prison.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

One of the two things.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah, it sounds nice. They're not going to provide answers because they're fucking cowards and they're not in prison. But so many people in this country lost their livelihoods because of the decisions these people made. There has to be some sort of reckoning. There has to be some sort of reckoning. And I know that they had, like, the, you know, the ppi, the payments, and that everybody took advantage of, and there's all this fraud and everything. And that was an effort to try to, you know, bolster the economy. But there are people who lost their livelihoods because of this guy. And, like, I don't think people are going to be satisfied until there's justice. There's so much talk in Washington about justice, justice, justice. And you hear on the mainstream media, we need justice. And it's like, why is there never any justice for the bureaucrats who are in charge, it's because they're not elected. They're not accountable to a single person. Well, yeah, we're not accountable.

[Guest/Caller]

I want the justice too, but if we can't get justice, at least give us the truth.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, you know, I'm more concerned about what happens with my kids and their grandkids. 60 years from now when one of these things happens again, it would be nice whether or not you have a

[John Ashbrook]

public record to think it's good. 60 years, man. And that's, to me, that's what feels the most messed up about this, is because like none of this is actually unprecedented and none of this is actually like outside of living memory because China did this with avian bird flu. This happened like 20 years earlier and they got away with it and they ran the same playbook and this time they had a left wing media and these bureaucrats to help protect them. Which is the most crazy. Like when you said that, like, I think most Americans probably felt the way you did, Holmes, where they're like, I imagine that we've got the, you know, the best people on the job. And, and, and, and that's to me, the most insidious part of what these people did is they took your trust and your belief in this country and the people who choose to serve it and they used it against you. They told you trust the experts as a way to cover for any questioning of themselves. They said, trust the science. As if science is this like immutable, godlike tablet that's been passed down and it's not an ongoing changing process. As we understand more. They're like, no, no, no, shut up. Trust the science, trust the experts. If you disagree, you'll be silenced, you'll be removed. We're going to get you out of your job. We're going to tell everyone you're a danger.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, we had the unfortunate circumstance for working in and around people with integrity where you couldn't ultimately come to even the fathom of the idea that they were making it up as they went along.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah, it's crazy because

[Josh Holmes]

it was new, but because it was new in that era, you got to know everything there was to know about it. So our question of the day, when you like and subscribe to the ruthless variety program is, is Fauci going to prison? We got a lot of precedent here. It's not just that one. There's like four more Supreme Court cases that I'm looking at or what should be done with Fauci that will tell you that you can't Take the Fifth. On pardon. On.

[Guest/Caller]

On.

[Josh Holmes]

On things that you've already been pardoned for. And it's because of what we just outlined. Because the truth actually matters. Because it.

[Michael Duncan]

It does.

[Josh Holmes]

The truth prevents future occurrences of what happened. There is three Supreme Court cases that I'm looking at that would suggest. This guy's got a real problem. Is he going to prison? I don't know. Why don't you tell us when you like and subscribe to the ruthless Variety program. We read all of your answers and get back to the very next episode with a summation of everything else. And I gotta tell you, we've got a hell of a lot left in this show. On the Variety side, I'm gonna lift things up. There's a woman. You won't believe this. There is a woman who managed to flip her SUV in her own garage.

[Guest/Caller]

Hell yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Can we just look at the clip? We jump off from there.

[John Ashbrook]

Amazing.

[Josh Holmes]

Silent in her own garage.

[Guest/Caller]

I can't believe you dox my wife.

[John Ashbrook]

Like, that's a serious question. Serious question. Is anyone here surprised? Is there? Like, what. Why could that happen?

[Guest/Caller]

My wife's actually a good driver.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

I plead the Fifth.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. Under the advice of counsel.

[Josh Holmes]

So Cook county, this is Chicago. Sheriff's deputies responded about 7:50pm Monday, July 27, to report a rollover crash with injuries in the attached garage of a home in the block of 3900 Gallane Ave. In an unincorporated Arlington Heights. Somehow there was a woman who figured out how to roll her car in her own garage.

[Michael Duncan]

I don't know how that's physically possible. I'm just. Just being honest with you guys. I don't have. I don't have the same show sheet everybody else has, but I'm looking at this car on its side.

[Josh Holmes]

How does that happen?

[Guest/Caller]

It gets even worse, though. The woman in her 60s or 70s had to be extricated.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Guest/Caller]

No.

[Josh Holmes]

The Jaws.

[Guest/Caller]

Life on Jaws of Life on your own driveway in your garage. That's a real wake up call. Somebody's got to take the keys.

[Josh Holmes]

The initial investigation indicates that the female driver of the silver Toyota RAV4 was entering the garage when she hit the right side of the structure with her right wheel in the passenger side. The wheel caused the small SUV to crawl up either the brick entrance or the drywall.

[John Ashbrook]

So this is made up. We got the Spider man car. And it climbed up the drywall.

[Josh Holmes]

Climbed it up. There was white powder on the passenger side of the front tire. The white powder was either from the brick or the mortar.

[Guest/Caller]

I mean, it's honestly kind of impressive for the car was a Toyota RAV4.

[Josh Holmes]

It did more than I thought it could.

[Guest/Caller]

If it can climb up the side of a house, I mean, that's. Get that to Consumer Reports.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, I did more than I thought.

[Guest/Caller]

That's going to help the rankings.

[Josh Holmes]

I totally agree. Fantastic.

[Michael Duncan]

Also well built structure.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, it didn't go anywhere.

[Michael Duncan]

I mean that house, it seemed to be intact. The garage didn't seem any worse for the wear.

[Josh Holmes]

Somebody talked to that construction guy.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

I mean there, there's a general contractor out there with a lot of pride in that structure.

[Michael Duncan]

Did his job.

[Josh Holmes]

No question about it. There was a man who was in who impaled himself. And this is like a three part story.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay.

[Josh Holmes]

A hiker impaled himself with a trekking pole. You know how I'm not in favor of this?

[Guest/Caller]

Okay.

[John Ashbrook]

Hiking in general.

[Josh Holmes]

No. Yeah, hiking in general. But also, you know, when you see the people who are like super outdoorsy, where they're going, they're hiking thing they. And they hike with like ski poles.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Like you're being like, you know, like

[Guest/Caller]

you're going for time like it's Everest.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah, right. You're not pyramid zier brigging walking along a path.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, this guy decided to go up this, this mountain in Montana. Well, it didn't end well. If we can put up graphic one,

[John Ashbrook]

that's a bit much.

[Josh Holmes]

So he impaled himself with the pole.

[Michael Duncan]

And

[Josh Holmes]

by trekking with the trekking pole, he went up this mountain. David Cifaldi, 32, of Billings was climbing up Granite Peak with two friends on July 20 when he slipped on a rock while ascending a 12,799 foot mountain. The group was about 10 miles into the challenging climb when the accident occurred. As Safaldi fell, one of the trek poles pierced through his torso.

[John Ashbrook]

This guy was a nurse too, is the thing. This is a nurse guy?

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. The nurse said. The medical instincts immediately took over as he tried to determine the severity of the injury.

[Guest/Caller]

Looks severe to me.

[John Ashbrook]

Here's the thing too. At the start, it's got a pull through his back. At the start it says he's with friends. So. So like what are they doing here? Right here they're like. As a trained nurse, he's trying to survey the situation. None of his friends is like, hey, you know that thing's going fucking through your torso, dude.

[Josh Holmes]

Hey, buddy, that looks bad. Yeah, it looks real bad. Well, anyway, Sofaldi's hiking partners photographed the injury so he could evaluate the Damage. According to the GoFundMe campaign created to help his recovery. His friend Jess Ross said the pole went completely through his lap muscle, leaving openings several inches apart. Despite the shocking injury, Cevaldi believed that he could continue moving. And what this guy decided to do is after determining the wound appeared to involve soft tissue rather than life threatening injury, he decided he could make his way back down on foot.

[Michael Duncan]

Hell yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

So he did not even ask for a helicopter ride out. The medical bills for the accident still put it.

[John Ashbrook]

What's everyone's take on this? You think that's like a cool thing?

[Michael Duncan]

Here's, here's my, here's my take is, I think it is a breath of fresh air that in our society today, men are still men. You know, it makes me think of the moment in this great movie called Kingdom of Heaven where Liam Neeson is talking to his son and he says, I once fought for two weeks with an arrow through my testicle. I don't know if you remember this moment, but he was giving his son a speech, telling him about being a tough guy and being a man. And this guy had a ski pole through his.

[John Ashbrook]

So your example of a guy being a guy is someone who got like gender reassignment surgery via arrow. I don't think this is being a guy being a guy. It's not like, you know, how I'm going to show everyone I'm a man is I'm gonna go on my nature hike first off, okay, I'm gonna piss a lot of people off, but I don't care, okay? The guy's a nurse, okay? Like, come on.

[Michael Duncan]

He helps people.

[John Ashbrook]

I'm gonna attack it. I'm gonna attack it. Nurse is a gendered profession. Oh, my nurse is just like stewardess. We're gonna get so many emails. I don't trust. I don't, I don't trust. Just like stewardess. Unbelievable. Like, if a guy stewardess rolls up with my drink, I'm like, what's happening here? You know, maybe I'm a 1950s kind of guy. That was my first giveaway on something's going on here. Then he's one of these guys who. Something's going on. I'm gonna hike. So intense. I need ski poles. Okay, what are they for? To make sure I have a good footing. Also, I slipped and put the goddamn ski pole through myself. And Ashtruck's like, this is a guy who's got it together. Well, I thought, you know, he walked

[Michael Duncan]

10 miles and wouldn't accept the helicopter thing.

[John Ashbrook]

That's Been happening.

[Josh Holmes]

I feel like that's a pretty tough Smug's take is you bought your ticket, knew the risk. I say let the plane crash.

[Guest/Caller]

Well, I don't agree with any of that, but the one thing I do agree with Smug on here is like the guy puts this pole through his body and very luckily he's not bleeding out on the spot.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

And it's not a lot of blood.

[John Ashbrook]

Not a lot of blood.

[Guest/Caller]

And instead of evaluating that situation but like, boy, oh boy, I'm lucky. I gotta call 91 1.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Guest/Caller]

He's like, you know what? I'm gonna go ahead and elevate my heart rate.

[John Ashbrook]

That's the thing, you know, like, let's see, maybe I'll dunk anything.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, I can go. I can go down the hill.

[John Ashbrook]

But this is also why we. If there's a zombie invasion, we're all going to Duncan's house. Is because he has like rational decision making. Like Ashmuk's first take is, I don't know, seems cool, maybe he'll die. Like the decision making to be like, I have a metal pull through my body and I can't even see how bad is. And his, he's like friends, can you take a photo? First off, his friends fucking hate him. That they're like, you know what, we're not going to make the call here to be like, as your friend, I don't want you to die. There's a piece of metal going through your entire body. Listen, buddy, I know you're a nurse, but in my opinion, we're going to get you. I'm calling 911. We're getting you out of here. They're like, I'm taking a photo for the gram. Everybody. Look at this guy. He's got a pull through himself. I'm indifferent. If he walks 10 miles and croaks,

[Josh Holmes]

well, he's a man's man. I'm about to train curveball here, smug because I think this segment is going to go in a different direction. There was a. A situation similar in nature at Yosemite with a woman in clip eight.

[John Ashbrook]

Hi, I'm Grace and this is me hiking a trail. I mean before I hike a trail. Phil made it to Clark's Point in his stress. Grace had heat exhaustion and Phil had to do something. There's a

[Michael Duncan]

helicopter for you, audio only. Pulling her out.

[Josh Holmes]

There is a woman named Grace who was on a hike on Yosemite's Mist Trail, popular steep granite stairs route in the Vernon fall roughly one and a half to Two miles. Not a big, you know, it's one and a half to two miles a

[John Ashbrook]

walk, bit of a hike.

[Michael Duncan]

It's four laps, about eight laps around a track.

[Josh Holmes]

She suffered heat exhaustion and she was helicoptered out. As you saw in that video, Yosemite Search and rescue treated her on the trail with fluids and IV and then extracted her with a helicopter hoist because she couldn't hike back down. The rest of the hobbit hikers group continued on the trip.

[John Ashbrook]

So one thing I want to know. So. So run that clip back of the helicopter having to pull her out of that thing. So, I mean, like, that is that it's a hell of a clip. Was there an uncomfortable discussion where, like, they're like, okay, we're gonna dispatch the helicopter. What's the ballpark on her weight? Because, like, when you're like a lot of. When it's not fixed wing aircraft, you. They have to know that shit. That's important.

[Michael Duncan]

They definitely.

[John Ashbrook]

How much does your luggage. Wait, like, it's. It's important that they don't mess that up.

[Michael Duncan]

Right, Right.

[John Ashbrook]

And so, like, are they gonna be like, is she lying? Like, she. Like, that lady's gonna look me straight in the face and be like, 110. And the pilot's like, we got to be real about this shit. It's like, hey, I don't want to kill two good pilots because this lady drop on a mile hike. But it is a hike. A mile is a hike. That lady's a bit much.

[Josh Holmes]

Three bills, you know.

[John Ashbrook]

And that goes back to the whole hiking thing. Yeah, this whole, like, hiking.

[Guest/Caller]

Thank you.

[Josh Holmes]

Thank you.

[John Ashbrook]

I wanted to take this.

[Josh Holmes]

Thank you.

[John Ashbrook]

You've done it to yourself.

[Josh Holmes]

Yes.

[John Ashbrook]

You know, here's the thing is I think the smart thing, if you find yourself stupidly in that situation is to call 91 1. But I think. I think maybe 911 says, well, we all have to live with our consequences and choices, don't we? Goodbye.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, thank you.

[John Ashbrook]

You know, you decided I'm not gonna go ski poles and go up your 10 mile mountain. You know why climbing a mountain is tough is because there's consequences. You know why, like, they don't helicopter the outdoors to Mount Everest? Is because, like, oh, you survived it, but many didn't. And that's why it matters. But I guess you're one of the guys who didn't survive it.

[Michael Duncan]

This guy walked back. He didn't call 911. He walked back.

[John Ashbrook]

But that's unfortunate.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, I think that's. I think this. I think that's the story is that

[John Ashbrook]

instead of him getting what he deserves, we got to go fund me. This guy's trying to go fund me his way out of consequences. He's like, oh, the bill's still $8,000. He didn't get the bill that he should have gotten.

[Guest/Caller]

And Ashbrook supports him.

[John Ashbrook]

I do.

[Josh Holmes]

I actually support this guy too. He managed to 10 miles. He managed to impale himself and walk 10 miles down.

[John Ashbrook]

Well, you never get a male nurse who's in impaling himself. You know, that's a new thing.

[Josh Holmes]

Whereas.

[John Ashbrook]

Never expect that kind of a thing.

[Josh Holmes]

Listen, the outdoors isn't for everybody. It's just not. And, like, we live in this culture where people are like, oh, I'm a hiker. Oh, I hike stuff. Oh, I'm an outdoors person. I do outdoor. Fuck you. You're not. If you weigh 450 pounds, get the fuck inside.

[John Ashbrook]

I'm even passing.

[Josh Holmes]

Like, it's just. It's never going to work for you out there because the rest of us as society are going to deal with you on less than a mile in with a helicopter that we have to drag you out like a cow.

[John Ashbrook]

Not, not, not, not. Not just her. Not just her, dude, I'm against. I'm against all hiking. All hike. Nature is not a recreational activity. It's an opponent. You know what I mean? So if you're trying to play on a PVP server and be like, hey, my hobby is nature. I'm gonna go to a mountain where the wild animals are. Because it's not fit for people. It's not fit for people. And people knew better. You know, like, where did the sellers go? They're not like, you know, let's put these houses on top of a mountain. No, they try to find, like, responsible area to live. And so civilizations thrive. But these people, that's not good enough. Where do settlers go? They're not like, you know what mankind has progressed to, where I have air conditioning and I've got indoor plumbing. That's not good enough. I'm gonna. I'm gonna grab some ski poles and I'm gonna go out there and get after it. Well, you got after it. It's a shame it didn't finish the job. You know, it's. But that's the thing. Nature rarely lets people get away with it like this. And then, you know, to his shame, it's a gofundme trying to cover his ass on this.

[Josh Holmes]

Rarely do I find myself so aligned with comfortably.

[John Ashbrook]

It's the truth, because I'm Right. That's why he's right.

[Josh Holmes]

You know, you don't go do. You don't go do that stuff. Don't do that stuff. Like, if you want to go do it, that's fine, but you're ultimately responsible for whatever. I'm not gonna feel bad about the impaling.

[John Ashbrook]

If you want to be like, I'm nature's champion. Well, okay, Prove it.

[Josh Holmes]

Just if you're £400, don't go on a hiking thing. Like, whose idea was that?

[Michael Duncan]

Hey, wasn't her Dr. Grace.

[Josh Holmes]

Grace, you want to go hiking? Who the fuck was that?

[Michael Duncan]

Friend, by the way.

[Josh Holmes]

Hey, Grace, you want to go hiking? They saw Grace.

[John Ashbrook]

I know why they did it. Dude, Grace is your friend. It was because of the video. They wanted the Instagram. They're like, now the helicopter's gonna like, Grace out of here, dude. Like, that's a million views.

[Josh Holmes]

They're like dimes to donuts. We get a great insta of here getting lifted out of this joint.

[John Ashbrook]

100

[Michael Duncan]

Garbage Society.

[Josh Holmes]

Don't go into the environment unless you're prepared for it. I'm just gonna say. All right, let's play a game, fellas. King of the hill. I think I'm a champion, and I

[Guest/Caller]

am the challenger this week, and I'm bringing Steve Schmidt, the old fat man. Our judge is smug, and bailiff is Ashbrook. Our defending champion is Kinzinger.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, no, he's been good. He's been.

[Guest/Caller]

He's been pretty good. Let's go ringside.

[Michael Duncan]

Ladies and gentlemen, your attention, please. It's time for King.

[John Ashbrook]

King of the hill.

[Michael Duncan]

In the red corner, fighting from his own porch in Utah, the old fat man, Steve Schmitz. And now, in the blue corner, fighting from who knows where, and current champion of the world, Adam.

[Guest/Caller]

Very good.

[Josh Holmes]

Okay, this is a little bit more intellectual than I tend to play on the program, but I think the judge and jury is going to appreciate it in large part because of this week being Lindsey Graham's funeral and a seminal moment to not only recognize what Lindsey Graham had worked on his entire life, whether the politics were good, whether the politics were bad, whether Republican, whether they were a Democrat, brought world leaders together on a single thing. And the outgoing takeaway of all that was that things are a lot different than you think they are, certainly at the beginning of the Trump administration. So Exhibit five, bring it up. It takes me two and a half minutes to explain why it's a lie that we gave all the weapons to Ukraine that we needed for Iran. But the lie can be said. In one sentence. We're at a disadvantage when reality is nuanced, but the truth is essential.

[John Ashbrook]

All right, that's his take.

[Josh Holmes]

Here's. Here's why I. I find this to be particularly galling. He still has Slava Ukraine in his deal.

[Michael Duncan]

And the shirt.

[Josh Holmes]

There were two people that were here, Benjamin Netanyahu and Vladimir Zelensky.

[Michael Duncan]

Oh, right, that's right.

[Josh Holmes]

The two of them have meetings with the President of the United States. There was one that was contentious. That one was with Israel. It was with Netanyahu. Increasingly, the Trump administration, in and of itself has understood that the Ukraine situation is not only important, but it is something that they have invested in and will continue to investigate. So much so that they endorsed a bill this very week on Russia sanctions. They call it the Lindsey Graham fucking

[Michael Duncan]

bill

[Josh Holmes]

that does all of the fucking things. And this guy is still trying, in this very moment, during that, like in the backdrop of all that, to suggest that this administration isn't standing with Ukraine. Now, granted, it's been a juxtaposition.

[Guest/Caller]

Bailiff, do we have a clock?

[Josh Holmes]

It's been a juxtaposition. But that's the reality, and this is the reality he's trying to present. It's completely. It's the most absurd take of all time, because only if you put the flag in your thing would you ever come to the conclusion that this administration is not working on behalf of Vladimir Zelinsky at this point.

[Guest/Caller]

Okay, exhibit number eight. Steve Schmidt decided to get to the left of most of the Democratic Party on Ken Martin's scandal at the dnc, saying the Democratic Party, which has lost two of the last three presidential elections to the most prolific liar on earth since Hitler and Goebbels. Last breath. Amazing isn't measuring up and meeting the moment, to say the least. So he's calling for the ouster of Ken Martin at the dnc, former Republican strategist, and comparing Donald Trump to Goebbels and Hitler in the same post.

[John Ashbrook]

Short and sweet round will goes to Schmidt.

[Guest/Caller]

Let's go, let's go. Oh, I got more.

[John Ashbrook]

Also, the bailiff is asleep. Wake up, grandpa. Game's still going.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay, I disagree with the judge.

[Guest/Caller]

Exhibit 10.

[Josh Holmes]

Thank you, Bill.

[Guest/Caller]

Steve Schmidt says a new axis has gathered. They are at war with America while America is at war with itself. Classic Steve Schmidt turn of phrase there. And led by a latter day Nero who is corrupt, evil, sick, demented, and unfit beyond any measure of description because all words fail to capture the grotesquery of his conduct. I will note a couple of things. About this post. Number one, the quote of himself to his own substack. The use of what is a disputed photo, I believe, of Graves. Grok says that it's actually from Jakarta. It's not from Iran. In fact, was used as an Iranian misinformation campaign.

[John Ashbrook]

Amazing, dude. That is good content.

[Michael Duncan]

Wow.

[Guest/Caller]

I. I will note that Snopes insists it is Iran. I think this is sort of a point of contention. Okay.

[Josh Holmes]

But it's an argument.

[Guest/Caller]

But that didn't stop Steve Schmidt.

[Josh Holmes]

No, no. He. That argument be damned. An argument be damned.

[Guest/Caller]

We got to stop Nero.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, I'm not going to go with the intellectual argument because that didn't work.

[John Ashbrook]

No, not in this court.

[Josh Holmes]

I think I'm just going to go with exhibit one, where you have. Pete Hegseth is tweeted something basically thanking all of the members of our armed services who helped secure our southern border. Adam Kinzinger, who's a member of Congress, also a member of the armed services, said, I've worked the border with the military. It's not hard work, dude.

[John Ashbrook]

Insane. Wow. Okay. That rounds his.

[Josh Holmes]

Insane.

[John Ashbrook]

Take what a crazy ass. Take what a crazy. You know what? Troops aren't doing much. Doesn't seem too difficult to me. Insane.

[Josh Holmes]

Take.

[John Ashbrook]

Wow.

[Guest/Caller]

It's weird to admit you were bad at your job to own Trump.

[John Ashbrook]

So we go to round three.

[Guest/Caller]

That was a good one.

[Michael Duncan]

All right.

[Guest/Caller]

You got to go first.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay.

[Josh Holmes]

So I think I'm going to. I'm going to go to. I'm going to go to exhibit three, and I'm going to ask for indulgence a little on this in that what he's done here is just embedded his own situation on substack where this is

[John Ashbrook]

straight up mistake, like misuse of the Internet. Misuse of the Internet.

[Josh Holmes]

And he's got something that's. That basically it's an article that infers that he voted to impeach Donald Trump and whatever. And then he just simply say you can listen wherever you get podcasts or watch at. And then.

[John Ashbrook]

And then to this. That's incredible.

[Guest/Caller]

It's good. Misuse.

[Josh Holmes]

It's. It's. It's just fantastic. Miss you. And what Hasbrook right now is trying

[John Ashbrook]

to figure out what he did wrong.

[Michael Duncan]

It's a sentence and a preposition.

[John Ashbrook]

The guy's a 900 year old guy. I'd link to.

[Josh Holmes]

He did.

[Michael Duncan]

Screenshot.

[Josh Holmes]

He also did end the sentence in a preposition. There's no question about that.

[John Ashbrook]

Incredible. Yeah.

[Guest/Caller]

Okay.

[John Ashbrook]

It all comes down to this.

[Guest/Caller]

Exhibit number seven, please. Of course. This. This Week.

[John Ashbrook]

This is insane.

[Guest/Caller]

Lindsey Graham was laid to rest a legend in the United States Senate. Steve Schmidt, who you know was chief strategist to John McCain's campaign for president, United States, who was best friends with Lindsey Graham. They knew each other very well, obviously decides this is the appropriate time to tweet this. Lindsey Graham was the smallest of men. Thankfully, there was a microscope around to record the insanity that will soon leave the American people slack jawed. Link again to his own substack and a picture of Lindsey Graham, the man who is now dead.

[John Ashbrook]

Jeez, that is just like stunningly tasteless. Yeah, boy, that's. I mean, this is a tough decision. As, as I stated earlier, this is not an intellectual court.

[Guest/Caller]

This was a man.

[John Ashbrook]

This is one who, you know, you see someone being a real. Just slime bag.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

You know, just real disgusting piece of garbage. I mean, there's something to be said for that. And I think it's for that reason we have a new champion. Steve Schmidt.

[Josh Holmes]

Folks, listen, I'm not gonna argue unfathomable

[John Ashbrook]

levels of being human garbage. I'm not.

[Josh Holmes]

I'm literally not going to argue even a lick.

[John Ashbrook]

And he's doing that for substack clicks. Man, my soul in hell. As long as I get these clicks.

[Josh Holmes]

That was a fair ruling. I would have done the same thing. That is outrageous. Oh my gosh. We want to get your comments. Let me just say we did a whole Lindsey Graham episode on the show, so I'm not going to belabor the point. But this was the thing in D.C. this week. And I will say that he's a throwback that we're probably going to have to dig pretty deep to figure out how to empower people like Lindsey Graham. And it wasn't that he cared more and he did. It wasn't that he worked harder and he did. It was a happy warrior who had the vast majority of our ideal ideology in mind. But he went to war for his stuff every day and he didn't care where the politics lied. And you saw this in the funeral. You saw like, dude, everybody in 2024 was like cut and run on this Ukraine thing. He didn't. He didn't. Now it's back, people were like, holy. It was really good that we didn't do that. Really good that we didn't do that. Israel, you get people, the Tucker Carlson's or whatever, like, why are we defending Israel?

[Michael Duncan]

Why are they?

[Josh Holmes]

And we're going to get to a point where you realize that the only friends we have in a region that can cause us an awful lot of harm, is that. But he was standing in the breach of it. You need more people like that who are going to do the thing when the politics get super difficult and they're not so much worried about their own poll number. Like, he had to fight for his own reelection, primary elections, but he did it with a smile on his face. And like, dude, I had so many disagreements with Lindsay. I had personal arguments with Lindsay about a whole bunch of different things, but he was always willing to do the thing. And as long as we have that, we're going to be in a great spot. And so I just. I feel like it was worth saying because, you know, that's. That's my summation of who that guy was and what it is that we're gonna miss.

[Michael Duncan]

It was a giant.

[Josh Holmes]

Giant. All right, let's get into your comments. We asked you on Tuesday, what will the DNC mortgage next? Now, remember this clown? What's his name?

[John Ashbrook]

Ken Martin? He mortgaged the building.

[Josh Holmes]

He literally tried to mortgage.

[Michael Duncan]

Reverse mortgage.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, he tried to mortgage his building.

[Guest/Caller]

No, they have.

[John Ashbrook]

He has.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, he did mortgage.

[John Ashbrook]

It is mortgage.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. Yeah. And so the question was, what will he mortgage next? Comment 1. We always start with the voice.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay, thank you, smug, for the assist on this one. First comment comes from HFN in Tex. HF writes, next, the Dems will mortgage Schumer's Sombrero, Jazzy's Wigs and Nails, Platner's Oyster Farm, Kamala's yellow school bus, and maybe Biden's garage.

[Guest/Caller]

Oh,

[Josh Holmes]

that's somebody who's paid attention.

[Guest/Caller]

Just. Just reading through that list. Unless the Biden garage comes with the Corvette, I don't think they're getting much money for any of that.

[John Ashbrook]

Not going to clear.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, no, not a high number. No question. Dunks. What do we got?

[Michael Duncan]

Our enemies might pay for the docks inside.

[Guest/Caller]

Oh, oh, yeah, that's right.

[Josh Holmes]

And may have.

[Guest/Caller]

Comment 2. This is from Incognito. Incognito writes, what will the DNC mortgage next? I'm thinking that the most valuable asset they have left is personnel. Looks like it's time to put some ass on the street. They should start with Hakeem. Something tells me he's an earner.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, my God. Holy shit. Pimp out.

[Guest/Caller]

Hakeem Jeffries.

[Josh Holmes]

I didn't know where that was headed until two thirds of the way in,

[Michael Duncan]

but he really set it up.

[Guest/Caller]

He did.

[Michael Duncan]

Or she.

[Guest/Caller]

Or she.

[John Ashbrook]

We got a great audience.

[Josh Holmes]

Incognito.

[Guest/Caller]

Although I. I got disagree with the earner part. Unless somebody has a fetish for lazy eyes.

[Josh Holmes]

Also slack job. Yeah, you know, maybe there's a. I don't. I'm not getting into it. I gotta take a deep breath before we get to comment. Three smuggles worth comment.

[John Ashbrook]

Three is from Thomas Rafferty. And Thomas writes, the next thing the DNC could mortgage is the Biden Presidential Library. Oh, wait. That is great. That's tough. That's tough.

[Josh Holmes]

That is tough stuff. Nobody's even discussed it.

[Guest/Caller]

The funny part is the DNC will probably need a second mortgage to pay for that.

[Michael Duncan]

Oh, it's so bad.

[Josh Holmes]

What an episode. Fellas, we're gonna get back to you with Funny Time Friday. And believe me, this was a relatively serious episode from what we normally do. But we're gonna get to some fun times. There's an awful lot left on the cutting room floor tomorrow, but I think we did it.

[John Ashbrook]

I think so. Absolute banger of an episode. Gentlemen, thank you so much to the Minions. Remember, if you have not yet, go to the YouTube and hit that subscribe because it's more fun in video. So I. Until next time, Minions, keep the faith, hold the line and own the libs. We'll see you on Friday. Stay ruthless.