Mamdani Humiliated + The Candace Owens - Hunter Biden Interview

Summary

Ruthless Podcast – “Mamdani Humiliated + The Candace Owens - Hunter Biden Interview”

Date: May 26, 2026
Hosts: Josh Holmes, Comfortably Smug, Michael Duncan, John Ashbrook

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Episode Overview

In this variety-packed episode, the Ruthless crew blend sharp political satire and irreverent commentary as they dissect news, media, and cultural oddities from a uniquely conservative angle. Key highlights include the saga of New York Mayor Mamdani and World Cup tickets, the “horseshoe” meeting of Candace Owens and Hunter Biden, left-wing anti-police activism, viral internet conspiracies, and a sendoff to Stephen Colbert. As always, the tone veers between sardonic, lighthearted, and brutally direct.

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Key Topics & Segments

1. Promotion Woes: Behind the Ruthless Fox Ad

Timestamps: 03:43 – 12:27

• The hosts open with self-deprecating humor about their Fox News promo shoot, poking fun at their TV inexperience and the surreal experience of being in front of the camera instead of behind it.
• Notable Moment: Smug’s insistence on filming in “24 frames per second to make it look cinematic”—earning him playful ridicule as a “Paul Thomas Anderson” wannabe.
  • “If we’re gonna do it like this, I want it shot in 24 frames per second. It’s gotta look fun, right?” – Guest/Producer (08:18)
• They reflect on the show’s organic growth, rarely advertised until now, expressing gratitude to the community and encouraging word-of-mouth support.

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2. World Cup Ticketgate: Mamdani’s Humiliation

Timestamps: 12:27 – 22:43

• New York’s socialist mayor, Zoran Mamdani, struck a deal with FIFA for thousands of World Cup tickets, leading to accusations of cronyism.
• Public outrage centers on how these rare tickets ended up in the mayor’s control, available to “lucky” lottery winners.
• The botched Twitch raffle led to raucous, unmoderated chaos—most memorably a stream dominated by giant emoji penises.
  • “It's a giant emoji penis.” – John Ashbrook (00:51, 16:42–18:00)
• The crew argues the lottery is bound to favor political loyalists, not regular fans.
  • “I’m telling you what I personally believe is that these people are going to be handing these tickets out to their friends, whoever knocked doors, whoever’s out there tweeting about how great the free grocery store is...” – Michael Duncan (00:54; 18:30)
• Debate ensues about soccer being “socialist,” with tongue-in-cheek comparisons to pool and biathlon.

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3. Candace Owens Interviews Hunter Biden: Conspiracies Gone Wild

Timestamps: 23:33 – 40:31

• The hosts discuss Candace Owens’ recent spiral and her surprising interview with Hunter Biden, calling her shift to conspiracy-heavy content “reprehensible.”
• Owens leads Biden into discussion about supposed “faked” Trump assassination attempts and wild theories, to the hosts’ disbelief:
  • “If you think that Donald Trump has faked assassination attempts on his life, I’d like you to turn off and unsubscribe.” – Josh Holmes (26:21)
• The pod stresses the dangers of dehumanization and lunatic thinking in an internet echo chamber.
  • “Just because somebody is telling you something on a screen doesn’t mean you need to turn your brain off.” – Michael Duncan (31:02)
• Babylon Bee’s satirical take is highlighted when Hunter, unwittingly, reads a Bible verse to Candace sent by a friend as an apparent dig—and doesn’t seem to catch the implication:
  • “But if you are bitterly jealous and... selfish ambition... such things are earthly, unspiritual and demonic...” – Hunter Biden reads James 3:13-16 (34:48)
• The “horseshoe theory” discussion: hosts ask which pairings of far-right and far-left figures might next “meet in the middle.”

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4. Cambridge ShotSpotter Debate: Anti-Police Activism Run Amok

Timestamps: 42:29 – 50:44

• Cambridge, MA, debates banning ShotSpotter, a gunshot detection technology, after activists (on behalf of “vulnerable communities”) claim it endangers minority residents and leads to “over-policing.”
  • “Members of the Cambridge community are more likely to be recorded by ShotSpotter and thus are more vulnerable to potential abuses...” – City audio clip (44:22)
• The hosts point out the irony:
  • Liberals want to ban guns but also oppose crime-fighting tech as “racist.”
  • Quote: “The problem for the left is if you utilize this technology and find out where the crime is, you might be called on to do something about it.” – John Ashbrook (47:16)
• Discussion extends to tech like Flock cameras—highlighting ideological clashes around policing.

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5. Luigi Mangione: The Left’s Murderer Martyr

Timestamps: 50:48 – 57:14

• Reactions to the ongoing murder trial of Luigi Mangione, accused killer of a UnitedHealth CEO, whose supporters in the press gallery celebrate him as a “Robin Hood.”
  • “I said his children are better off without him. They need to learn not to be like their dad…” – Left-wing activist outside the courthouse (51:42)
• The hosts mock the activist crowd, bemoaning the normalization of “psychopath” behavior in media and activism.
• Entertaining, dystopian ideas are floated:
  • “You give them universal basic income, they give up Internet access and the right to vote, and I think 80% of those people would do it in a heartbeat.” – John Ashbrook (57:03)
• The “Horror Island” concept—tongue-in-cheek proposal for dealing with far-left utopianists.

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6. News Oddities Lightning Round

Timestamps: 57:49 – 69:44

A. Cybertruck Sunk

• A Cybertruck owner in Texas drives into a lake to test “Wade mode”—only to promptly sink.
  • “He thinks it’s gonna turn into a boat?” – Michael Duncan (59:13)
• Hosts joke about “Inspector Gadget” expectations and Tesla’s overhyped capabilities.

B. Robot Fails at Michael Jackson’s ‘Billie Jean’ Dance

• Segment features a robot attempting a moonwalk and falling off stage steps.
  • “Just like an electric car in Wade mode. It has its limitations.” – Michael Duncan (62:43)
• Satirical reminder: don’t overestimate the robot uprising just yet.

C. Viral Conspiracies: Is Michael Jackson Still Alive?

• The team discusses a trending AI-generated video falsely “proving” Michael Jackson lives in Brazil.
  • “Thousands of boomers are like, ‘This is real!’” – Michael Duncan (65:01)
• They riff on boomer credulity and internet misinformation.

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7. Late Night Lament: Stephen Colbert’s Sign-off

Timestamps: 68:04 – 71:57

• Colbert’s final show prompts a round of scorn for his evolution from comic to “DNC press secretary.”
• Hosts lament what they see as the politicization and death of late night comedy:
  • “He’s actively just cheering… straight partisanship… I don’t think he got nearly enough scorn.” – Josh Holmes (69:04)
• They joke about how future historians will look back at “cultural artifacts” from the era, especially the cringiest Colbert moments.
  • “It feels like the world's saddest super sweet 16.” – John Ashbrook (71:54)

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Standout Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It's a giant emoji penis.” – John Ashbrook (00:51/16:42)
• “If you think that Donald Trump has faked assassination attempts on his life, I’d like you to turn off and unsubscribe.” – Josh Holmes (26:21)
• “You give them universal basic income, they give up Internet access and the right to vote…” – John Ashbrook (57:03)
• “He could no sooner tie his shit than ride a bus in Brazil. Are you kidding me?” – Josh Holmes (67:49) (on Michael Jackson rumors)
• “If you want a cinematic, you got to do 24. So be more accurate: 23.97.” – Guest/Producer (09:16)
• “We are going to look back on the Trump era someday with all of these cultural artifacts of how the left lost its mind.” – John Ashbrook (71:23)
• “You always have to bully nerds...” – John Ashbrook (63:27, in jest over the robot fail)

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Listener Takeaways

• The episode sharply lampoons both leftist activism and fringe right conspiracies.
• The hosts maintain a tone of camaraderie, dark humor, and a “keep it real” skepticism.
• They call out the erosion of common sense and the dangers of social media-driven groupthink.
• Listeners are encouraged to engage with the show’s ongoing “horseshoe theory” discussion—what’s the next unlikely alliance at politics’ fringes?

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Overall Tone

Casual, irreverent, combative, and deeply steeped in political inside jokes. The Ruthless crew leans into conservative skepticism but peppers their serious points with comedic banter and relentless mockery of bad faith actors on all sides.

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For full context and all the zingers, see: [Time Stamps Above; Notable Quotes Section]

Transcript

[Josh Holmes]

So you might ask yourself how it is that the mayor of New York is now the ticket broker to the largest worldwide sporting event. As hard as it is for me to admit that that is true, it is in fact the case. In a negotiation with the host committee, somehow Mamdani happened upon thousands of tickets.

[Michael Duncan]

You're telling me that Mamdani's like communist government just got a thousand or thousands of tickets? Yes, sure. There are a handful of East Germans still on the FIFA committee. Very happ to see what mom Donnie is doing to the city of New York.

[Josh Holmes]

So what they did in order to auction off or not auction, lottery, raffle, these things off is put up a Twitch stream and where you know they were going to do this whole big unveiling of all this stuff and they did it on Twitch, but they did had no moderated comments.

[John Ashbrook]

It's a giant emoji penis.

[Michael Duncan]

I'm telling you. What I personally believe is that these people are going to be handing these tickets out to their friends, whoever knock doors, whoever's out there tweeting about how great the free grocery store is and how wonderful communism will be for New York. Somehow magically, they're going to be the ones.

[Josh Holmes]

How many members do you think of the Mamdani Mayrol staff are going to attend the World Cup?

[Guest/Producer]

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[Josh Holmes]

hearing is a continuation of the committee's larger effort to get to the root causes of why healthcare is so outrageously expensive.

[Michael Duncan]

House Ways and Means Chairman, Congressman Jason Smith.

[Guest/Producer]

Hospital prices have skyrocketed 300% in just over two decades, more than any other

[Michael Duncan]

sector of our economy.

[Guest/Producer]

Large hospital systems also manipulate the 340B

[Josh Holmes]

drug pricing program to keep steep drug

[Guest/Producer]

discounts for themselves instead of passing the savings to low income patients.

[Josh Holmes]

Even worse, there is evidence that hospital abuse of 340B actually directly led to increases in Obamacare premiums. Simply put, hospitals are charging an insane amount for care. The American people are fed up with outrageous prices that seem artificially high.

[Michael Duncan]

They're right. Learn [e-mail]

[Josh Holmes]

Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please.

[Michael Duncan]

This program has become one of the

[Guest/Producer]

most influential podcasts in America.

[Josh Holmes]

I love the personality.

[John Ashbrook]

You guys are killing it. I just saw your number one.

[Guest/Producer]

So congratulations. Thank you.

[Josh Holmes]

It's an honor and a pleasure to welcome the great Sean Hannity. Guys, I love you. Congratulations on all your success.

[Guest/Producer]

This is why you listen to the

[John Ashbrook]

Ruthless Podcast, because nobody else would ask that question. The only political podcast worth listening to is the Ruthless Podcast. It's time for our main event, the Ruthless Podcast.

[Josh Holmes]

Good Tuesday to you. Welcome back to the Ruthless Variety Program. I'm Josh Holmes, along with comfortably smug Michael Duncan and John Ashbrook. We trust everybody had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend. I hope you all had an opportunity to express your thanks to all those heroes who made this a great country with freedom and democracy and all the things that we enjoy. I know that we all did. We've got a big. A big show for you and it's going to be a big week. There's a lot of fun stuff going on, but we would be remiss if we didn't open with a little self deprecation. Mm. You've probably. I don't know, for those of you who watch Fox, even for those of you who didn't, you may have even seen this thing. Let's just cue it up and start from there. Clip 1.

[Michael Duncan]

In a country where common sense has vanished. Four sharply dressed podcasters with perfectly parted hair to the right, take on the left.

[John Ashbrook]

We own the libs and serve justice the way it should be.

[Josh Holmes]

Neat. Dc, this is your wake up call. I am Vengeance.

[Guest/Producer]

It's a podcast.

[Josh Holmes]

Podcast. Sorry.

[Michael Duncan]

It's time to save the world again. The Ruthless Podcast.

[Josh Holmes]

Streaming wherever. Look at how blind you look in that last.

[Guest/Producer]

Can we get just like a f. Look at that. Someone pull that guy a piano.

[Josh Holmes]

I mean, it is comically.

[Guest/Producer]

I'm going to do the right move. I'm gonna blame the production. Cause the guy told me, I was like, do you want me looking at the camera or do you. He said, I want you to look over there. And I looked over there and now you get the shot and it's like you got Stevie Wonder at the end there. I'm about to sing Superstition.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, Fox was kind enough to offer some promotion for what it is that we're doing. They've been a great partner and we've enjoyed our partnership immensely. And they wanted to do something and they had some idea and they have some super talented people over there. But we do political advertising. We've done it our entire careers. And so we kind of look at these things differently than somebody who does just sort of direct to consumer production quality. You know, you go to a big studio and all this. So it's sort of like we didn't really know what to expect. And I'd certainly never done an ad appearing in it. Right.

[John Ashbrook]

I think that's the most jarring thing of all is you spend your entire career, you know, writing scripts.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

Or you know, doing post production work on an ad where somebody else is the subject.

[Josh Holmes]

Yes.

[John Ashbrook]

And now you're the subject, which is a out of body experience.

[Josh Holmes]

And we had some thoughts, right. I mean, it was, it was uncomfortable. We all went through a range of emotions.

[Guest/Producer]

I thought it was great. I had a great time. I wanted a.

[Josh Holmes]

That's what everybody says about you, by the way, that you're the easiest one to work.

[Guest/Producer]

And so like, I know for you, you guys, I think we were talking about this when we're in between shots and stuff, like you get these, you get these like, okay, this is, we're going to have the Ash Brook shot. Which, you know, when he says that like, I am vengeance. It's not like we're all standing there while he's saying it or else we'd all be there all day. Instead we're all backstage all day waiting for him to nail the damn line. But like, you'd have these moments where it's like, okay, this, this is like Duncan's shot here. He's going to say like, bourbon neat. He's back in 45 seconds. Done. It's in the can. Then you have like Holmes, okay, go out there and be like, you know, this is your wake up call. He's back in 45 seconds. And then, then you have Ashbrook. He just has to say, I am vengeance. Right. We're talking three words, right? And it was like, dude, it had to gone. It was like we had to take a lunch break. Everyone ate and came back and it was there. Okay, Ashbrook's still out there, dude, I think we got a good product in the end.

[John Ashbrook]

Asbrook, defend yourself.

[Michael Duncan]

I. There's no point, like it's not even close to true. What smug is saying about me is his story about himself. But I'm Happy to take it on myself. You know, it was uncomfortable. You know, it's just. It's an out of body experience. No normal person has ever been through anything like that. So it's like. And I was a little bit like, ah. You know, I wasn't sure. But the feedback that we have gotten great proactively from people who you haven't heard from in a long time. You saw it on Fox. I mean, these marketing guys know what they're doing.

[Josh Holmes]

How'd you feel about being the heel?

[Michael Duncan]

You know, you do what you got to do for the variety program. This, this matters a whole lot to me.

[Guest/Producer]

I thought everyone looked pretty awesome, if I'm being honest. Like, when you saw the finished product, it's like. And I remember we first had the initial discussions. Everyone got mad. They tried clowning on me because I was like, listen, if we're gonna do it like this, I want it shot in 24 frames per second. It's gotta look fun, right? And then like, they're like, who is this guy? Does he think he's like, you know, Paul Thomas Anderson over here calling out, he wants it in 24 frames per second. I think I was like, yeah, definitely, definitely 24 frames.

[John Ashbrook]

I mean, I don't think you stopped there, though. At one point I thought you were Christopher Nolan wanting to shoot an imax.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah, that's for the follow up.

[Josh Holmes]

He had like drone cams going on.

[John Ashbrook]

Unbelievable. We were like, I'll never forget it because we're like on a zoom with some of the most talented people in all of media.

[Josh Holmes]

Right.

[John Ashbrook]

Explaining their vision for this ad and ad, which we're like, we not deserve. We are just humble podcasters. But thank you. And then doesn't miss a beat. Smug is like frames per second. What can you tell me about.

[Guest/Producer]

Because if you want a cinematic, you got to do 24. So be more accurate. 23.97. But I didn't want to freak them out. And I said this. I was like, I don't want to freak you guys out and say 23.97. You're like, oh, no. They need guys doing math and everyone's got a compliment.

[John Ashbrook]

Howard Hughes over here wants to see the blueprint.

[Josh Holmes]

Neurodivergent, I think is what they call that.

[Guest/Producer]

But that's the thing is, like, I felt comfortable because after they told us the treatment, I thought off the bat it sounded cool. And then I was like, so it's got to be seen in max. So we're doing this 24 frames per second. Absolutely. And So I was like, okay, okay, we're doing professional, you know, let's do this. And it came out great. I've been loving to see like, especially they put it up on Instagram and it just blew up there in the, in the comments and the feedback have been terrific. I love it. We all can be honest. I, you know, we all look cool. I thought it came off. Look at that. I mean, look at that. There you go.

[John Ashbrook]

Pretty cool.

[Josh Holmes]

Good. It's pretty good. It's a lot better. I was afraid that we were gonna look like a bunch of douches.

[Guest/Producer]

And it's, it's tough because, like, when it's a full day of like shooting 10 second segments, it's hard to figure out what's this gonna look like. Yeah, but they did it.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, it's like you, you know, you worked 20 plus years for a certain thing that is sort of authentic to who we are, and all of a sudden you're like, jesus, did I just fuck that hole? But ultimately turned out great and hopefully

[John Ashbrook]

it brings in a lot of more people into the ruthless variety program. Well, and that's because we want to keep growing this community. It's all for you, listener and viewer and, you know, I mean, ads are great, but like the power of this community can. We love all of you so much is the word of mouth and going out there and telling people, hey, you should listen to these guys. You should listen to these guys. So, like, keep doing that.

[Guest/Producer]

Yep, that's it.

[Josh Holmes]

And also, like, not for nothing, but we've never really advertised. I mean, there's like a hidden secret in podcasts where you get these companies and they acquire podcasts and then they just advertise to the hilt to get like viewers views and downloads, but nobody really views or downloads. They get the aggregate number. It looks like there's like a ton of people listening and doing. But then you can tell in the comments and then ultimately what happens at the back end of whatever the message was of the show. Like, nobody really does anything. And you're like, oh, I get it. So we've done it the opposite way, which is just sort of like, you're our community, you're our friends, you're our, you're our people. And we would hang out at the corner bar with you if we live next door, but, you know, it's a different way of doing. So now we're advertising and we're in the big leagues. We're in the big leagues, so hopefully that works. But if you haven't liked and Subscribed, like and subscribe. That's a great way to get us out there and for all of you to get a little better idea of what it is that we're doing. All right, so you may have noticed a change of attire and we lost one here. But such is life when you're trying to provide up to date, real time information to all of you, the listener, the very valued friends that we have here in the Ruthless Variety program. Smugglesworth lives in another state, obviously North Carolina. And he's got a newborn, which requires attention, particularly over a long weekend, if he says, any interest in staying married.

[Michael Duncan]

Right.

[Josh Holmes]

So. So what we're doing here is kind of filling in with some. Some other content that's good, good content. It's going to be great stuff. But if we look a little bit different. That's what it is. That's what it is. Do you guys follow this mom Donnie thing with the World Cup?

[Michael Duncan]

I don't know if I did.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh yeah, he like created some content, some promo stuff.

[Josh Holmes]

Right? Well, it's more than that. So a socialist in chief decided what he is doing here is ultimately obtaining through a negotiation with FIFA, notoriously full integrity outfit.

[Michael Duncan]

Oh, FIFA.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah, right.

[Josh Holmes]

Never ever been any allegations of corruption?

[John Ashbrook]

Well, that naturally, you know, because you're the biggest soccer fan on the Ruthless Variety.

[Josh Holmes]

That's right.

[John Ashbrook]

You know, the whole history.

[Josh Holmes]

That's that. That's exactly right. I'm sort of an expert in that regard. Such an answer. But anyway, there's a host committee because New York is one of the cities that is hosting the World Cup. Now Team USA is not playing in New York. They're out west.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay.

[Josh Holmes]

But in a negotiation with the host committee, somehow Mamdani happened upon thousands of tickets. These are impossible apparently to get. I am myself dismayed that there is such a significant draw for this kind of thing, particularly teams that are not the United States of America, but in New York. It makes all the sense in the world that all of these other nations are such a popular draw to go see soccer.

[Michael Duncan]

Let me. So just so I understand what you're saying is that average people out there are standing in line to get tickets. They've been talking for months. I mean, I. I've got some friends who are big soccer fans. I know they've been talking about like, how are we gonna get tickets? What's our strategy? How much are we willing to pay?

[Josh Holmes]

And they're paying like, like 7x list price.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah, what's. What city are we flying to? How do we get the Hotel. You're telling me that Mandani's like communist government just got a thousand or thousands of tickets?

[Josh Holmes]

Yes, that's. That's exactly what I meant. And the explanation as far as I've read on ESPN and other places is that, well, there was a host committee that discussed this.

[Michael Duncan]

Starting to make a little more sense.

[John Ashbrook]

The party always takes care of itself.

[Josh Holmes]

Yes, it sure does. And so once a communist, always a communist.

[Michael Duncan]

Sure. There are a handful of East Germans still on the FIFA committee, very happy to see what Mamdani is doing to the city of New York.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, there's quite a draw for all the communist nations out there. Mamdani's gonna take advantage of it and he's going to provide a lottery system. Clip two will give you an explanation.

[Guest/Producer]

What can $50 get you in New York City?

[Josh Holmes]

25 cups of streetcar coffee.

[Guest/Producer]

10 months of hard hitting journalism. Still a classic. Infinite rides on the Staten Island Ferry. And for a thousand lucky New Yorkers, a ticket to the World Cup. That's right. Last year we said we'd fight for cheaper tickets for New Yorkers and today I'm proud to announce, just like Arsenal, we got it done. So here are the details.

[Josh Holmes]

Okay.

[John Ashbrook]

It's absurd.

[Josh Holmes]

So you might ask yourself how it is that the. The mayor of New York is now the ticket broker to the largest worldwide sporting event. As hard as it is for me to admit that that is true, it is in fact the case people travel from around the world to come see this thing in particularly New York City, which is easy to get to from Europe. Well, anyway, he's got all this stuff and he's gonna do a lottery system. But in order to do that, you have to set up, you know, sort of the, the whole showbiz component.

[John Ashbrook]

Right.

[Josh Holmes]

Of it. And this is where it gets super interesting. All right. Clip, clip three.

[Guest/Producer]

These thousand tickets are going to be sold $50 a pop to New York City residents. You know who I would actually listen to a lot.

[Josh Holmes]

This is Twitch Stream.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay.

[Guest/Producer]

He's not quite underground, but I feel like he never really broke through into the mainstream in New York City. There was a 4, 3, 2.

[Josh Holmes]

Check out the right side.

[Guest/Producer]

Great songs.

[Josh Holmes]

Check out the right.

[John Ashbrook]

Okay, all right, so it's a giant emoji penis. So what have you done?

[Josh Holmes]

So what they did in order to auction off, or not auction, lottery, raffle, these things off is put up a Twitch Stream. And where, you know, they were going to do this whole big unveiling of all this stuff and they did it on Twitch. But they did. Had no moderated comments. So it's nothing but, like, gif after gif. It was nothing but, like, the most horrible. Can we just. You don't need to play this sound. But

[Guest/Producer]

come on.

[Josh Holmes]

Look at the one on top of the one that you're looking at.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, I don't. I didn't take it off the screen. My mom watches this. Josh, what are you doing?

[Michael Duncan]

Horrific.

[Josh Holmes]

It's horrific.

[John Ashbrook]

I love how you highlighted the most offensive one.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, I mean, I didn't want you to miss anything.

[Michael Duncan]

I don't think anybody missed it.

[John Ashbrook]

I would have rather missed it. I do love. I do love, though, that he has that whole promo thing where he's like, I promise to fight for lower ticket prices for New Yorkers. And it's like, this is a fucking lottery, dude. But you didn't lower the ticket price. You're just giving them away to people, right?

[Michael Duncan]

Here's where. Here's where my skepticism begins.

[Josh Holmes]

Okay, good.

[Michael Duncan]

Because the idea that this is going to be a free and fair lottery from Zoran Mandani, I just. I will never believe. You will never be able to convince me. You mean that these tickets will go to people who got in line at the right time?

[Josh Holmes]

You mean a state actor of socialism has a some history of perhaps deceiving its citizenry?

[Michael Duncan]

I just. I'm telling you what I personally believe is that these people are going to be handing these tickets out to their friends. Whoever knocked doors, whoever's out there tweeting about how great the free grocery store is and how wonderful communism will be for New York. Somehow, magically, they're going to be the ones.

[Josh Holmes]

How many members you think of the Mamdani Mayroll staff are going to attend the World Cup? All. I mean, quite obviously. Right?

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Honestly, they can have it. As far as I'm concerned. They should all go. And all the socialists should go, because I think they would be of, like, mind in a. In a soccer community. But this is like the classic Mom Donnie deal.

[John Ashbrook]

You think soccer is a socialist sport?

[Josh Holmes]

I do, I do.

[John Ashbrook]

Fans are. I think. I think the fans of soccer are definitely the most socialist, but I don't think as a sport is the most socialist. I. I think pool is probably the most socialist sport.

[Michael Duncan]

Wait, like eight ball?

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

Like pool?

[Josh Holmes]

The game of pool?

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah. I mean, well, think about it. Like, the worse you do, the easier the game gets, the better you are, the harder it is to win.

[Josh Holmes]

Okay.

[Michael Duncan]

I mean, think about it.

[John Ashbrook]

You make one ball, you make two balls, you make three balls. Oh, you missed Clear.

[Josh Holmes]

You cleared the. The deck for everybody else.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

The guy who. You're kicking his ass now. He's got the run of it.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, sure. In terms, I was thinking more about its fans than I was actually the game. And I. They're right. There's nothing inherently socialist about soccer. Although.

[John Ashbrook]

Although the. The around on the ground.

[Josh Holmes]

I don't care for that. I don't care for the theatrics.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, neither do I.

[Josh Holmes]

Of. Of any of that. But, you know, it's coming. I. I think the good news for the United States of America and for all of us who grew up with the four major sports that we all enjoy here in this country is that the United States is not likely to go far in this tournament. And we will. We will by a. By mid July, regain our hatred of soccer. Collectively, we're gonna have to go through a month here where everyone is just focused on soccer.

[John Ashbrook]

Well, I'm not focused on soccer, but cheering on America and we're hosting the thing, so we kind of have to also. I mean, I like hockey, but there were a lot of people who hadn't watched hockey, watched it in the Olympics to support America, and I think you got to return the favor.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, I'll be the first one in line to cheer on Team usa. No question about it. I'm just. I know our history. Yeah. I know what our. Like, this is not a sport that we do for the same reason that. What is that sport called where you cross country ski and you shoot?

[Michael Duncan]

Biathlon.

[Josh Holmes]

Is that what it. Yeah. In the Olympics, there's like one sport that you can never watch.

[Michael Duncan]

The Norwegians always win.

[John Ashbrook]

Well, I think the Scandinavians invented the damn thing so they could get five medals.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

Every day.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, exactly. And that's how they compete on things. But best I can tell, we've never had an athlete in that competition because they certainly haven't shown up on the leaderboard. And it's been around for decades.

[John Ashbrook]

Right. And the other thing is just, you know, the whole world plays soccer, and that is really their only sport. Yeah. Now, I mean, we've had a lot of Europeans come over for basketball now. I mean, they've obviously developed that over there in Europe.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, we've spread democracy abroad on that.

[John Ashbrook]

We have.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

We have America.

[Guest/Producer]

Right.

[John Ashbrook]

But like, you know, our best athletes grow up to play, you know, the four major sports. And so we're at a deficit in that. In that area, for sure.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

Well, I'm going to be rooting for Team usa My guess is the reason why Mom Donnie wanted the tickets to the New York area was because his people heard Team USA wouldn't be there. So they would want to go to the games.

[Josh Holmes]

No. That could.

[Michael Duncan]

They're going to be rooting against us and it has to be therefore I'm going to be rooting for us.

[Josh Holmes]

It has to be internally a little bit painful that it's all brought to you by Fox here in the United States of America. Something Mandani I'm sure is not totally pleased by, but I find great, great humor in.

[Michael Duncan]

I wonder if Uganda will be playing in New York. Is Uganda have a team in the world?

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, that's interesting.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah, I, I can't even recall.

[Josh Holmes]

Maybe he'll wear the colors.

[Michael Duncan]

It's possible who he's rooting for.

[Josh Holmes]

All right, we come back something you might have missed last week. If you're not terminally online, you definitely missed it. But Candace Owens interviewed Hunter. Yes, yes. There's so much to say right after this.

[Michael Duncan]

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[John Ashbrook]

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[Michael Duncan]

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[Guest/Producer]

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[Josh Holmes]

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[John Ashbrook]

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[Guest/Producer]

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[John Ashbrook]

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[Josh Holmes]

Okay, so I can understand why an awful lot of you are not up to date on Candace Owens news. But there are some of you who have been aware of this just like steep decline of everything. And she made her name what Daily Wire and was that tpusa like, she like did all the things within Republican politics to make her name and build a brand and all that went off on her own. And then sometime over the last six months just like kind of went nuts a little bit and then it was all like Erica Kirk attacks and just, I mean, stuff that's in my view personally sort of reprehensible. But she sounds an awful lot more like a leftist than a conservative and her brand is a conservative. So it was interesting to me and that she invited Hunter Biden on the show. Now Hunter has kept a relatively low profile other than this left wing lunatic out in LA that he did a series of interviews with. We did shows on because how hysterical it all was. So it's kind of interesting. I like just to get his point of view on stuff because you just want to know like, what is a crack addict, cereal, you know, prostitute enthusiast?

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah, I mean, like, I'm not, I'm, I'm not opposed to it in principle because the guys has to have amazing stories. Totally. Just probably would have handled the interview a little different than Candace did, you know?

[Josh Holmes]

Well, and that's what we come to find out. So anyway, check out clip four. I mean, whether it's Butler or Charlie or these things, that, that it's just not right. And I mean, it's so glaringly not right. It's almost as if they're just saying fu.

[Guest/Producer]

They don't, they're not even trying. Like, we aren't even good psyops anymore. And that's what I keep saying. I'm like, it's so disrespectful that we're not even getting good, good psyops anymore. Like, we're, we're supposed to believe he survived four, what do we have, four assassination attempts? The first president that's ever survived four assassination attempts. They quietly, they lie to us about things, they make a big deal and then they make it want to, you know, it's going to go away. They're going to keep pretending and telling us that this is a totally normal grieving widow. Okay, no one's buying that. Like, something's just not right here. Everyone can see that this is not how you would re to your husband being shot. And this sort of just, I'm fine and I, like, two weeks later, I fully accept a narrative. I have no interest in anything else. It's over. Let's, let's close it. I forgive him. Let's move on.

[John Ashbrook]

So all the assassin assassination attempts are fake.

[Josh Holmes]

I, I just want to say this

[John Ashbrook]

because that's where we're at.

[Josh Holmes]

You, you spend too much time on X and surfing comments and deep down Reddit rabbit holes and everything else. Like, you think there's constituencies for things that there are not. I want to be very clear with you, the audience, if you think that Donald Trump has faked assassination attempts on his life, I'd like you to turn off and unsubscribe. I'd like you to not be a part of our community. I do not want any of that and understand, like, it's a huge clickbait thing. I think a lot of his foreign ops, to be honest with you, which is what they play into, but this is the kind of corrosive bullshit that is hard to continue to do any sort of business in and that this is a mental, like, either you're intentionally deceiving people, which is the best case scenario that they've got going on. Or there's a psychological break here the likes of which schizophrenia cannot actually explain.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah, well, I think part of it is there's something very core to our human nature in trying to find patterns and order out of chaos. Like when things happen that you can't believe happened. Like Donald Trump and Butler being shot in the earth if he had turned his head, you know, so naturally.

[Josh Holmes]

So naturally faked it.

[John Ashbrook]

No, no.

[Josh Holmes]

Like, I don't understand anyone. I've never met anyone who, like, their immediate thing is like, oh, this is definitely a psyop.

[John Ashbrook]

No, I. I guess what I'm trying to do is provide a little grace. Not for her or Hunter or what I am, is providing it for people who see that, ask questions and ask questions and say to themselves, like, how is it that this kid gets up on this roof and gets a chance to assassinate Donald Trump?

[Josh Holmes]

Great question.

[John Ashbrook]

You know, like, how does that happen? And then, you know, it's like. And then it's also, I think. And this is also part of human nature. You ever, like, maybe you're looking at buying a new car, right. And you search the car and then you drive around and you start to notice that car everywhere. Does this ever happen to you?

[Josh Holmes]

Sure, sure. You buy a car or you notice that your own car because you're driving it. Yeah, right. Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

And so I guess what I'm saying is, like, you spot. Yeah. People start to. To then draw out other conclusions based on no evidence.

[Josh Holmes]

Right.

[John Ashbrook]

But because that seed was planted in their subconscious, then they want to see patterns all over the place.

[Michael Duncan]

Right.

[John Ashbrook]

I think that is a thing that naturally that happens to a lot of people. I do think there's also just a schizophrenia that people like Candace are capitalizing on, which is reprehensible.

[Josh Holmes]

Or maybe there's a bunch of people with mental health problems who listen to shit like that.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Which is my larger point.

[John Ashbrook]

Well, yeah, and I mean, it's a good point. And I think the other thing, and we've mentioned this previously, is that I think you said it, Holmes, that, like, politics isn't a soap opera. And it seems like there is a subset of people who consume political news who want it to be.

[Josh Holmes]

They think it's like if they. They're separated enough from any impact, or at least that they can decipher. That is more like a. A weekly storyline than it is real life.

[John Ashbrook]

Tune in next week.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, yeah, it does. It does seem like that. And I felt like that when I was in the middle of it, honestly, when we were. Were working in the center of all the major political stuff, it did feel like there was a constituency of people who didn't understand that there were humans at the center of it. But when you understand Donald Trump and you understand his family and you understand all the people who've been affected and YouTube bozos who were at the last assassination attempt, like, it becomes it. It's hard for me to conceptualize how you can just sort of hand wave this way and be like, fake again. You know what I mean?

[John Ashbrook]

It's crazy. But I think it also happens just in the Internet era we live in, is that, you know, you consume so much information through a screen that the things. It becomes dehumanized.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

To your point of, like, if you knew Donald Trump, if you knew his family.

[Michael Duncan]

Right.

[John Ashbrook]

You would have to know what you're saying.

[Michael Duncan]

You don't need to know Donald Trump. You don't need to know his family to be able to think for yourself. Just because somebody is telling you something on a screen doesn't mean you need to turn your brain off. Stop for a second and think. Under what circumstances would you allow some degenerate to lay on a building and take a shot at you in the hope that they're going to only hit your ear, nick your ear right then,

[Josh Holmes]

and then kill somebody behind you?

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. And then you're going to, like, that is insanity. Yeah. Like the same sort of disease that applies to the left sometimes also applies to the right. The worst possible thing that you can do is turn your brain off. When you turn your television on, you have to constantly think. And if you don't think for yourself, if you're not doing the research for yourself and you're not thinking, like, in common sense terms, then that's how you become subject to lunacy like that, because it is absolute insanity.

[Josh Holmes]

Also, just having Hunter Biden there, bobbleheading long.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Like, this all makes sense. His dad was the president, for crying out loud. You know what I mean? And he's like, yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

He's like, our leadership is lying to us. What the fuck are you talking about? Speak from experience. My dad did.

[Josh Holmes]

There was like, you know, the butler was on Biden's watch.

[John Ashbrook]

Right.

[Josh Holmes]

You know, the. The guy outside of Mar A Lago was on Biden's watch. Yeah, that's. That definitely happened. It could be fake. Like, it's just content has gotten to a point where you got to be very careful.

[John Ashbrook]

You do.

[Josh Holmes]

You just have to be very careful because this is verging on complete.

[John Ashbrook]

Also, there's, there's plenty of conspiracy theories that are true that you don't have to invent absolute crazy shit.

[Josh Holmes]

Many conspiracy theories are absolutely true. I mean that's tra. Like if you want to be crazy.

[John Ashbrook]

I loved Ashbrook's thing about like, oh yes, I'm going to plan on getting shot, but just nicked. Just nicked.

[Michael Duncan]

I'm going to let some kid who doesn't talk to people any day of his life.

[John Ashbrook]

Some four eyes.

[Josh Holmes]

He's got glasses, by the way, so not perfect vision.

[John Ashbrook]

He wouldn't be central casting.

[Michael Duncan]

I'm putting my life in his hands.

[Josh Holmes]

Anything but the Mossad, right? I mean, this guy is like the biggest nerd you've ever seen in your entire life laying on top of a building. You're gonna let him take a shot from 100 yards and Nick your ear?

[Michael Duncan]

No, no, it doesn't have to be Donald Trump. Put yourself in those shoes. You're gonna be like, you know what? I'm gonna hold real still. Get the hell outta here. It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

[Josh Holmes]

It is so dumb. So the Babylon Bee, which is, you know, they've been at war with Candace for quite some time, mostly from the rampant anti Semitism that she's got going on, but they had, they had a little fun at her expense about Hunter Biden, who apparently pulled out and this was very pretty extemporaneous interview. He pulled out a Bible verse that one of his friends had sent him to read to her. And he apparently didn't think all the way through what it is that he was doing. The friend very clearly sent this as a condemnation to the host that was having him on this, but he didn't, he didn't think through all the implications of that.

[Michael Duncan]

This was the thing that the, the Babylon Bee guy posted.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, yeah. So clip five. Somebody literally sent this to me right before I came into you. They knew that I was going to talk to you and I promise you I did not plan to do this.

[Guest/Producer]

No, you're so fine.

[Josh Holmes]

It was a prayer. If you are wise and understand God's ways, prove it by living an honorable life. Do good works with the humility that comes from wisdom. But if you are bitterly jealous and there is selfish ambition in your heart, don't cover up the truth with boasting and lying. For jealousy and selfishness are not God's kind of wisdom. Such things are earthly, unspiritual and demonic. For wherever there Is jealousy and selfish ambition. There you will find disorder and evil of every kind in.

[John Ashbrook]

Brutal.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, it's a stinger. It's a stinger. Babylon B, guys. Flag that.

[Michael Duncan]

You don't miss a trick.

[Josh Holmes]

Yikes.

[John Ashbrook]

Think this person was talking about you, Candace.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, my God. Right? That's rough. And like, look, I don't know this lady from. I don't. I've never met her. I've never talked to her. I was always a little skeptical about her view of politics when I was involved in politics, because basically everything she said I was living and knew not to be true. But it was entertainment. And I understand that there's something that goes along with that and it, you know, amplifying motives that don't exist. Amplifying whatever. You got to get an audience. And that's what they did. But like, over the last six months, you've watched this stuff and it's like, I don't know what the mode if, like, I don't get it anymore.

[John Ashbrook]

I think it's just content. I. I think once you get on that treadmill, it's hard to get off. If that's really your game and you want to see the number go up, you got to stay on the thing that's working. As vacant as that is, I think that's the reality because, like after Charlie died and obviously the attacks on Erica are disgusting and horrible, but she had started it. Just like, basically, we need to find out more about what happened to Charlie. And I think a lot of people were like, yes, we do too. Trying to make sense of this entire thing. We got left wing lunatics on media cheering that he died. And then over the course of that six months, she just went further and further off this cliff, grasping at different straws every week with no actual conclusion, no evidence. She hasn't gotten to the who killed Charlie Kirk that she said she was going to. For her audience, it's always, Tune in again next week. We're going to get closer. And then very quickly she's into It's a conspiracy with the freemasons and symbology, because the place where he was shot might be a pentagram. I mean, I'm. I'm not fucking joking. That was an actual episode of her show.

[Michael Duncan]

But if you watch the arc of the show at the end, it's always, she's about to reveal the big mom. And then we gotta go. Yeah, tune in next time. It's like the WCW Monday Nitro Sting.

[Josh Holmes]

We gotta go.

[Michael Duncan]

Like, the big thing's about to happen.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

And Then she. It's, it's a standard trick. She's completely insane.

[Josh Holmes]

I just don't.

[Michael Duncan]

You hate to see it. You hate to see it.

[Josh Holmes]

It also is just so vacant and devoid of any sort of responsibility whatsoever. I mean, look, we. I don't, I don't know what everybody's motivation is, but I would stop doing this tomorrow if I thought I was deliberately misleading people into a dangerous place for clicks or for whatever, you know what I mean? If somebody was like, hey, here's $100 million. The problem is you got to make 10 million people in America brain dead and schizophrenic and potentially dangerous. I would never do it like that. It's, it's. The morality of that is just so vacant, so hollow. It's just if that's what it is, if it's like you're just chasing the algo. Yikes.

[Michael Duncan]

By the way, there's other things to talk about. I don't know if you noticed, but the left has lost their minds. I mean, like, why is it that Hunter Biden is our issue area expert who we're bringing in to talk about what's going wrong with the right? Has anybody noticed how, how insane the left is and how they're trying to drive our country into communism? Like, we're not even allowed to talk about that because we have to, like, go through over and over again all this ground we've already tried. Now we're bringing in Hunter to tell us how it works.

[Josh Holmes]

In typical establishment fashion, you have missed the Jewish conspiracy.

[John Ashbrook]

You just don't want to fight, John.

[Josh Holmes]

He doesn't want to fight.

[John Ashbrook]

And he's, you know, it is great horseshoe theory, though. But, like, they've taken the horseshoe.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

Crumpled it up and put it in a crack pipe.

[Josh Holmes]

It does lead to our question of the day. And remember, when you like and subscribe to the Ruthless Variety program, we always do have an interesting question that we want your responses on. Because, like, look, I mean, we do. We do live in this world, and so how it lands on you is sometimes different. We learn a lot from your comments. But there is a very real horseshoe theory here where in the horseshoe theory is basically where the fringes of the right meet the fringes of the left in basically the same place. And what does that crossover look like? This is a Candace Hunter Biden situation. We've seen, you know, Thomas Massie in the same place as Ro Khanna, which is, you know, again, you come at two different things from very different places, but you end up exactly the same way. And our question for you is, what's the horseshoe theory in terms of the fringes that you're dealing with? What's that next crossover like?

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Put throughout two names that you would love to see an interview with to see if they land in the exact same place. Because increasingly it feels like there's a lot of that.

[John Ashbrook]

I'd like to see Tucker 2016 with Tucker 2020.

[Josh Holmes]

They're not going to find a lot of coming common ground. There's not, there's no horseshoe there. There's just going to be fighting. No question about it. Okay, coming up next in our lightning round, you will not believe what one blue city is attempting to do to block law enforcement and crime. They love crime. They love it so much. This one takes the cake. We're going to get to that. Also, Luigi Mangioni fans, they've gone from bad to horribly worse. And we've got some clips you got to see on that whole bunch of fun stuff after that. Right over this. For over two decades, the Tunnels to Towers foundation has been there for our fallen and catastrophically injured first responders, military and Gold Star families. Born from the tragedy of 9 11. Tunnel to towers provides mortgage free homes to Gold Star and fallen first responder families with young children and build specifically adapted smart homes for catastrophically injured veterans and first responders. The foundation also offers scholarships for college, trade school programs and for children of gold Star families, fallen first responders and catastrophically injured veterans. And Tunnel to Towers is committed to eradicating veteran homelessness and helping America Never forget September 11th. To learn more about the foundation's mission and their impact and how you can support the nation's heroes, visit t2t.org fellas. Cambridge, Massachusetts, just a bastion of sensible

[John Ashbrook]

policy for years now it's a place of learned scholars.

[Josh Holmes]

It's more learned than anywhere else. I don't know if you're familiar with this technology or if you followed this at all, but there's technology that an awful lot of crime riddled cities have implemented that tracks gunshots and it's called shotspotter. And it's. If there's gunshots anywhere in the city, it alerts law enforcement. Now it's particularly important because these same cities often is the case. Ban guns. Yeah, like they have banned guns. They're, they've just completely taken away your second amendment in these places of crime. And so if you're somebody shooting, well, that's noteworthy because it shouldn't, should be there.

[Michael Duncan]

So you're saying that gun bans don't necessarily impact the behavior of criminals who want to have guns.

[Josh Holmes]

It's interesting. So you can pass laws to take things away, but that thing still is there because there's the law part that they don't abide by. So this story gets really interesting. Clip 1.

[Guest/Producer]

I do not consent for my vulnerable neighbors in our welcome community sanctuary city to be at risk. And to make sure we hear from neighbors more directly impacted than I am, I will also be sharing our a

[Michael Duncan]

recorded note from a Putnam Gardens resident.

[Guest/Producer]

He's unable to be here, but feels that ShotSpotter surveillance puts him and his family at risk.

[Josh Holmes]

Come on, this can't be real.

[John Ashbrook]

This puts black and brown communities in Cambridge in very real danger to bipoc.

[Josh Holmes]

Members of the Cambridge community are more likely to be recorded by ShotSpotter and thus are more vulnerable to potential abuses of the data and recordings collected by the company, as well as dangerous over policing. Surveillance does not equal safety. We do not need microphones on top of buildings listening to every loud noise in the vicinity and sending in police in order to be safe.

[John Ashbrook]

Okay, so what I love most about this is what they're saying is using this technology to show where gunshots are fired in black and brown communities makes them less safe. Did anybody ask the victims, the people who got shot, who, spoiler alert, are also black and brown? No, we don't care about them. And that in a nutshell, is liberal ideology.

[Josh Holmes]

In a nutshell. So much so that you saw it demonstrated not only by the carnival of left, left wing lunatics that showed up to testify on this, but then the recording where she's like, I myself and she didn't say this, but this is what she's it like, am not affected because I'm, I'm a white person, doesn't live anywhere near these gunshots. But just so you know it, what carries my ideology is this. And the guy's like,

[Guest/Producer]

you know what I mean?

[Josh Holmes]

So that adds greater gravitas to my argument.

[John Ashbrook]

Now we're going to play a clip of a guy who is here illegally in our community saying why he would not like law enforcement where he lives, again, illegally.

[Josh Holmes]

And just so you know, can't be here in a courtroom because when you're illegal, it's not real safe to be. So I got to play his voice on my phone.

[Michael Duncan]

But as ridiculous is all of that sounded, the council voted on their side.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. Oh yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

The council's like, you know what? But we don't need to stop gunshots in our neighborhood.

[Josh Holmes]

And this is it. How does it.

[Michael Duncan]

What is the thinking there? Dude, I don't even understand it.

[Josh Holmes]

I am certain that it's not a perfect technology, but I do know that it's been around for a while and it's operated in major metropolitan areas, Minneapolis, Chicago, like a bunch of places where there have been crime to great effect, where it basically dispatches. You don't have to wait for a resident to say, my neighbor got shot. It dispatches his cops to a very distinctive sound of gunfire. It's not loud noises, by the way. It's not like a door shutting is going to get a cop at your door. Like it's a gunshot. And it has worked relatively well in these places, particularly places like Cambridge, Massachusetts, that bans guns in the first place. So, like, the logic tree of what keeps people safe in their idea is mind blowing.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah. But the problem for the left is if you utilize this technology and find out where the crime is, you might be called on to do something about it.

[Josh Holmes]

Wouldn't that be a shame?

[John Ashbrook]

And the liberal left doesn't actually do anything about crime in the liberal cities they control.

[Josh Holmes]

Yes.

[John Ashbrook]

And so the idea of accountability for them, they're allergic to it. So they love having these idiots up there representing the quote unquote bipoc community, talking about why they shouldn't be doing their jobs. They're like, my problem with law enforcement is the enforcement part.

[Josh Holmes]

You know, like, it's.

[John Ashbrook]

It's insane. And I actually listened to an episode of Joe Rogan recently with Mark Andreessen on, and he was talking about ShotSpotter in another technology called Flock. Have you heard about this? Okay. Flock is similar in that it, like, uses, you know, the cameras or whatever to locate a crime that's in progress. Like if, like a, you know, people are. I think the example that he gave was in Austin, Texas, if people, you know, we're shooting from a car or whatever, you could use the city's cameras to locate that car. And then by networking them, if that car is spotted, the police can anticipate where they're going to be at that location and. And interdict.

[Josh Holmes]

Right.

[John Ashbrook]

This criminal.

[Josh Holmes]

Right. So, so, so law enforcement got it.

[John Ashbrook]

Now what happened is Flock, or up Austin's local government, which has gone far, far left. It was always left, you know, keep Austin weird after all.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

But it's gotten worse and worse over time. We know that because we've been there.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

They aren't using Flock anymore for all the reasons we, you know, saw in that.

[Josh Holmes]

Because it's racist.

[Michael Duncan]

Stupid.

[John Ashbrook]

Right.

[Josh Holmes]

Racist technology well, there was recently a

[John Ashbrook]

bunch of shootings down there and they didn't have the technology. And then those criminals went to a neighboring community, I can't remember where that is, utilizing Flock. And they picked him up immediately.

[Josh Holmes]

Go figure.

[John Ashbrook]

And you know, I get a civil libertarian argument and you could do some sort of checks and balances for like who gets the authorization for when Flock is turned on.

[Josh Holmes]

Right.

[John Ashbrook]

Or whatever. Right. Like there would have to be some sort of protocol. Just like, hey, have to go to a judge to get a warrant.

[Michael Duncan]

Right.

[John Ashbrook]

Like, yeah, you could create a system which would satisfy the needs of civil libertarians to utilize technology to make us all safer. But they refuse to do that. We don't even get to that part of the argument because they've already decided they just don't like law enforcement.

[Josh Holmes]

It's racist.

[Michael Duncan]

Right. They're basically just saying, no, murder is illegal on stolen land. It's the only argument they ever. You're not allowed to do anything here. Like, when are we gonna stop listening to them? Like, why in the world you get four people up there who look like idiots? And the council is like, you know what? We are going to stop the cops from going after the shooters in this town.

[Josh Holmes]

It's the funniest thing about it.

[Michael Duncan]

It's just. It is the most insane thing I've ever heard in my life.

[Josh Holmes]

They have said, and this is the best. Every time there's gun violence, they're apoplectic and they immediately rush to a microphone to suggest that you ban every gun in this country. But if there's gun violence in a place where they've already banned all of the guns in the country, it is racist to figure out who shot them.

[Michael Duncan]

Right.

[Josh Holmes]

Think about that.

[Michael Duncan]

Right?

[Josh Holmes]

This is the ideology of these insane people.

[Michael Duncan]

It's twisted, it's wild. Common sense.

[Josh Holmes]

It wasn't particularly close either. It's a 5, 2 vote. It wasn't really cliffhanger.

[John Ashbrook]

Sweet.

[Josh Holmes]

The two will promptly be primaried out of existence in Cambridge, Mass. So there's that. Okay. This Luigi Mangione thing, we didn't touch on it last week, but they were doing. I don't know if it's preliminary hearings or whatever. We talked about it a lot last year, of course. This is the cat that allegedly killed the CEO of UnitedHealth. And he's on trial and he has got this like harem of left wing lunatics that have been saying good things about him ever since he was first picked up. Handsome, you know, kind of like a Robin Hood of murder.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Which is Basically a good way, I think, to characterize what they. What they see. This guy. Well, check out this clip.

[John Ashbrook]

That's the guy who got murdered. She's talking about.

[Josh Holmes]

I said. I said what? I said his children are better off without him. They need to learn to not be like their dad and enjoy the blood money. Oh, h. What. What do we. How is this even possible? Like, where do we raise people like this?

[Michael Duncan]

I don't know.

[Josh Holmes]

Like really, where do we raise people like this?

[Michael Duncan]

I don't know. But I. I sure am glad that they dress the way they do, that

[Josh Holmes]

they can tell, because.

[Michael Duncan]

Can we put that be. Exactly. Because, you know, you can see her when you see somebody that looks like that with the straight across bangs cut and all the different outfit colors and everything, you know, that you should just walk on the other side of the street.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

You're like, I know who this lady is, and I'm not interested in spending any time anywhere near her.

[John Ashbrook]

The only good thing about COVID was when it. It. You got into like 2022 and people were still wearing the masks.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

They were still scared to come outside.

[John Ashbrook]

And it was all the liberals.

[Josh Holmes]

We had like a year and a half of just pure bliss because they were all cloister, you know, in their own little.

[John Ashbrook]

But. But the one silver lining was you could easily spot a lib in any public location, wherever you were. And honestly, that was. That was awesome.

[Josh Holmes]

That was awesome.

[Michael Duncan]

It was helpful. Yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

It's good to know.

[Josh Holmes]

But I mean, these people are outside and there's a big debate in New York City about the press credentials.

[John Ashbrook]

I saw that there. Mamdani had to give a whole press conference talking about they. They reviewing their procedure passes in the gallery for the trial. Because I believe those women were granted press practice.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah. No, no. They had a whole bunch of psycho left wing activists who sort of portray themselves as journalists. Of course, they're heavy journalism going on there. And so they were given press passes. So they had to review all that and see if they're like real press and fake press. And of course it's like very gray territory for everybody now. Vote constitutes a press. And who's a bigger left wing activist, the New York Times or that lady? You know what I mean? Like, so it's all now like the mom Donnie crew has gotten to get involved in all of it.

[John Ashbrook]

But if Hassan Piker showed up, they give him a press pass tomorrow, probably.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, he's well credentialed.

[John Ashbrook]

He goes on the campaign trail.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, Senate candidates well credentialed.

[Michael Duncan]

I just can't believe their new Helen Thompson.

[Josh Holmes]

As far as they're concerned, the guy is alleged, and we saw it on video, but I got to say, alleged for, you know, all the purposes of courtrooms and everything else, to have shot a father, a young father in the back, in the back, as he was walking to a work conference in cold blood and then escaped and ran away and, you know, had these delusions of grandeur about what an impact he would have on society. And in the end, he just has. There's kids without a dad, you know,

[John Ashbrook]

Know, and these freaks.

[Josh Holmes]

And these people are like, yes, he's a hero. I mean, the depths, dude. Yeah, it's. It's like, it's hard to imagine that we've got a society with a segment like that. Are we just more aware, like, we now have cameras where you have to tape the psychopaths? I don't know, because that doesn't seem like where I. Definitely not where I grew up, but when I grew up, I just didn't encounter that sort of thing.

[John Ashbrook]

I think it's two things. I think that's half of it, you know, everybody's got a camera phone, everybody has something to say, and suddenly it's being recorded.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

You know, we didn't really have that growing up, you know.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

And then the other side of it is there's a lot of people. I wouldn't be shocked if that lady doesn't have a good relationship with her father, by the way, while she's giving advice to the children of the man who was executed. Yeah, And I think that's another part of it is, like, those people just go on Reddit, like Graham Platner and larp, like socialist radicals. And, you know, the end result is the shit that Luigi Mangione did

[Josh Holmes]

makes you think a lot about, like, a prison state.

[John Ashbrook]

A prison state.

[Josh Holmes]

We should maybe have more of a dictatorship than we do, you know?

[Michael Duncan]

I wonder what they thought of the Democrat autopsy. Nobody asked them that. I would be more interested in their opinion on that than I.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, I feel like the Democratic Party is doing more to try to court the votes of those two gals, I think, rather than they are anybody in the center of this country.

[John Ashbrook]

Like, rather than a dictatorship, what we actually need is to, like, make some sort of grand compromise with these people where, like, we'll give you ubi.

[Josh Holmes]

Is this. Is this your Horror island idea?

[John Ashbrook]

No, this is a much more simple idea.

[Michael Duncan]

I feel like we need a little

[Josh Holmes]

bit of an explanation that's. You can do a whole show on Horror Island.

[John Ashbrook]

This is a very simple idea, and that is you give these people ubi, because otherwise they're just going to be leeching off the state. And I think they're unemployable.

[Josh Holmes]

You give them universal basic income. Yes.

[John Ashbrook]

You give them universal basic income, they give up their Internet access and the right to vote. And I think 80% of those people would do it in a heartbeat.

[Josh Holmes]

Really? Yeah. Well, that's something to look into.

[Michael Duncan]

That's a trade. So they get income, they give up the right to vote, and they give up Internet access. Yeah. So they are monks. We're paying them to be monks and to sort of separate themselves from.

[John Ashbrook]

Well, they can. They can finally live on that communist commune that they've always dreamt of.

[Josh Holmes]

That's what we call Whore Island. Yeah, I didn't know. I knew it came in there somewhere.

[John Ashbrook]

There it is.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, but there it is. At some point, we'll all have too much to drink and tell you all about the theories of Horror Island. But it's a real thing, and I think it could work.

[John Ashbrook]

A lot of ideas on the ruthless Variety program.

[Josh Holmes]

You should see what the offset conversations are like. They're very, very good. All right, so there was a guy, I think he was down in Texas. He was arrested ultimately, but he was. Had one of those Tesla cyber trucks.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay.

[Josh Holmes]

I think he just got out over his skis about how great this truck is and its capabilities. It just didn't go the way he wanted it to. Clip 3. He's driving into a lake.

[Michael Duncan]

Wait, what?

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, no, he's driving. He's driving. Oh, he's just deep into the lake with this truck. And then ultimately, no, it doesn't drive anymore. And there's people now exit. Oh, it's under. Completely underwater. They've got. They gotta tow it out. Oh, there's a crane involved.

[John Ashbrook]

A crane.

[Josh Holmes]

What? What? So.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay. Please go on.

[Josh Holmes]

Officers were dispatched. This is according to Fox 4. Officers were dispatched to the Katie woods boat ramp at Grapevine lake just before 8pm on Monday. When officers arrived, they found a cybertruck in the water near the shoreline. The driver told officers that he drove into the lake on purpose to try out the vehicle's Wade mode. Wade mode.

[John Ashbrook]

Do you think.

[Michael Duncan]

Did he think it was going to turn into a boat?

[Josh Holmes]

That's kind of what it sounds like here.

[Michael Duncan]

Like that a propeller would appear out of the tailpipe and he would just putt across to the other.

[Josh Holmes]

Clearly did not read the manual because the driver and his passengers safely exited the vehicle before the fire department arrived, and they. They then removed it with the crane. The driver later identified as Jimmy Jack McDaniel.

[John Ashbrook]

What a name.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, Jimmy Jack. He. You know how Jimmy Jack got the coin to buy this Tesla Cybertruck is another question. But anyway, he got one. And when he did, he was arrested and charged with operating a vehicle in a closed section, which is the lake, apparently. That is not for motor vehicles, having no valid boat registration. How do you charge it with that? I got gratuitous, I gotta say. Lawfare right there.

[John Ashbrook]

Look, I. I kind of side with Jimmy Crack Corn on this one. You know, he like, it's called a cyber truck. And so it has this thing called, you know, Wade mode, where the suspension races up.

[Josh Holmes]

And I'm.

[John Ashbrook]

I'm sure, like, you read the hype around this automobile and it's supposed to be the truck of the f future, and you kind of think, I'm Inspector Gadget, I could do whatever I want with this thing.

[Josh Holmes]

You guys ever see those kids books? I am huge into kids books because of kids, obviously, and I have to read all these. So I try to get creative about what it is that you pick. My wife's terrific at this. But it's like if I Built a car. Yeah, that series. Like, if I built the house, this guy had the if I built a car thing and thought that, like, what was in that book ultimately would come to fruition and that he would drive his cyber truck into the lake and it would get a propeller and it would float and he would turn it into a boat. It just promptly sunk right down to the bottom. They had to get Crane out. Now Jimmy Jack Korn finds himself in Grapevine Jail.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, man.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, he's still in there.

[Michael Duncan]

He's still there right now.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, he's still in there. They really threw the book at him.

[Michael Duncan]

I mean, there are guys getting out of jail for shooting people faster than this. Jimmy crack.

[Josh Holmes]

Well, yeah, I mean, Jimmy crack, you know, up in Cayman, and she'd have been scot free.

[Michael Duncan]

Nobody would have known.

[Josh Holmes]

Nobody would have known. Nobody would have known. We. We don't often do Michael Jackson type stuff on the program for all the obvious reasons. But there is a robot. We do. Do robots. Not do robots.

[John Ashbrook]

We don't do robots.

[Josh Holmes]

Cover robots.

[John Ashbrook]

There you go. Big save. That clip won't surface on Twitter.

[Josh Holmes]

We cover them journalistically here on the program to bring you all of the latest and greatest of robotry. And it turns out in this clip, they've got a robot that is attempting to recreate the Michael Jackson dance. And I, I, I think. Well, we'll see in the clip. Clip three. Clip four. There it is.

[John Ashbrook]

So this is Billie Jean.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, it's Billie Jean. That's what it is. Oh. Oh, no. They didn't program it for steering. There it goes.

[John Ashbrook]

There it goes.

[Josh Holmes]

I don't know why that's so funny to me, but they had this robot perform to do, like, an exact replica of the Michael Jackson Billie Jean dance.

[Michael Duncan]

Just like an electric car in Wade mode. It has its limitations. And anybody who thinks that the robots are about to rise up and take over society just watch this video. They can't even dance and walk upstairs. I mean, just all this.

[Josh Holmes]

Look, he's dragging it off. Like a corpse. No, like a defeated robot.

[Michael Duncan]

Exactly, dude. Maybe 100 years from now, the robots will control society. But, you know, keep a bucket of water handy, all right? If a robot comes at you, throw the bucket of water on it, and it's going to look just like that Tesla Cybertruck in Wade mode. Electricity doesn't operate with water. We can defeat the robots.

[Josh Holmes]

I think a staircase, apparently, is too much for it to handle.

[Michael Duncan]

Exactly. Carry a staircase with you.

[John Ashbrook]

I think the important thing in this clip is it's a good reminder that you always have to bully nerds,

[Guest/Producer]

because

[John Ashbrook]

I can envision how this all went down. All right, they had the engineer, and then they had the stage production people.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

And the stage production people are doing the walkthrough, and they're like, okay, so this is where the robot's going to be, and he's going to do the Billie Jean dance. Right? You programmed for that? He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, okay, but this stage is a little bit different. We've got two stairs for some reason in the middle of the stage, halfway up.

[Michael Duncan]

Is it.

[John Ashbrook]

I mean, is that okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's only half paying attention.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[John Ashbrook]

And it's like, but the stairs aren't going to mess up the whole Billy Jean routine.

[Guest/Producer]

Like.

[John Ashbrook]

No, no, it's fine. I programmed him, and then this happens.

[Josh Holmes]

Dude, hold on. Can we just play the game clip one more time? Because it's the sad posture of this thing after it finally goes down. I got. Look at. It starts off, look, just a happy bot. It's ready to go, but it catches itself right there. And I'm like, wow, that's pretty impressive. It can do its thing now it's doing it, and it's. It doesn't look nearly as graceful as Michael Jackson.

[John Ashbrook]

But then dynamic. It's terrible.

[Michael Duncan]

The back part is just laying there.

[Josh Holmes]

It's over.

[John Ashbrook]

Done. The robot is done. It is not getting up. Its legs are not moving. Look. And there's the man who did the crime, the engineer. I mean, I think this is going to be a landmark case in jurisprudence, and that is the first crime of a human being being negligent to a robot.

[Josh Holmes]

It might be. It might be something to look into. I don't know. But Poindexter just costs another hundred grand with a dead robot. You all may have missed this last week.

[Michael Duncan]

Wait, wait. Before we move on.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, no.

[Michael Duncan]

Before we move on, on the subject of Michael Jackson.

[John Ashbrook]

Okay.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, I can't wait to hear this.

[Michael Duncan]

Have you guys seen this Twitter controversy about whether Michael Jackson is actually alive and living in South America?

[Josh Holmes]

What?

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, no. Ashbrook's been deep into the Internet.

[Michael Duncan]

I have not. Well, I've been deep into the Internet. However, there is this AI video floating around of an. Of like a gray haired looking Michael Jackson, like, guy riding a bus in Brazil.

[John Ashbrook]

There's just no way.

[Michael Duncan]

And there are boomers all over our country.

[John Ashbrook]

No.

[Michael Duncan]

Who are retweeting it and saying, I think, I think he might be alive. He just, he wanted to get out from under the microscope.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, well, the pedophile allegations which he was dealing with. I mean, recall, like, not long after he passed, they put that whole documentary together on HBO or whatever it was that went into some detail. It was extremely uncomfortable to watch. But he was gone. So, you know, there it was.

[Michael Duncan]

So somebody creates an AI video with pictures and everything else and they put it out on the Internet. And then it's like, I'm telling you, thousands, thousands of boomers are like, this is real.

[Josh Holmes]

Monster flames.

[Michael Duncan]

I can't believe you guys haven't seen that.

[John Ashbrook]

I have not seen this. I mean, that's unbelievable. I believe it.

[Josh Holmes]

We should start doing interviews with like, Tupac.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Holmes]

AI. Tupac.

[Guest/Producer]

Wait, Tupac.

[Michael Duncan]

Tupac might be alive. That's one I'm willing to believe.

[John Ashbrook]

You got them all spun up.

[Josh Holmes]

Let's lean in on it. No, you, you. I could see where you can get carried away. He could get carried away on that. I bet half of his timeline is the craziest shit you've ever seen in your entire life.

[Michael Duncan]

I. I do think it's just thousands

[John Ashbrook]

of people replying, say, grok, is this real?

[Michael Duncan]

I mean, that's what it is. And then in every reply, Grock is like, no, this is not real. Community. No.

[John Ashbrook]

And they're Like, Grok is wrong.

[Michael Duncan]

Grock is wrong.

[John Ashbrook]

Grog stopped suppressing the truth. Michael Jackson, when he died, had an entourage of like 50 people and he was more medicated than a junkie horse.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, totally.

[John Ashbrook]

The idea that he could live by himself in some remote rainforest is fundamentally absurd. This guy, like, moved around the country like a sultan.

[Josh Holmes]

He could no sooner tie his shit then ride a bus in Brazil. Are you kidding me? Oh, God. That's pretty good. All right. So what I was going to get into before we were.

[Michael Duncan]

Sorry about that.

[John Ashbrook]

That was great.

[Michael Duncan]

I just had to chat, had to raise it.

[Josh Holmes]

Is real Stephen Colbert. He did his last show last week. Not that anybody would have known. I mean, I honestly didn't know, but did his last show. And there's a couple of things that I think are worth highlighting here from the ruthless variety program.

[Michael Duncan]

Just wait. Stephen Colbert still has a show. Grok is this real?

[Josh Holmes]

Grok would tell you he does no longer have a show clip. Joe Biden did it. He's our next president. Never a good sign when the majority of Americans react to you losing your

[Guest/Producer]

job the way they did to us getting bin Laden.

[Josh Holmes]

And when he leaves, you know what? I'm looking forward to sleep. But also the possibility that for the first time in four years, we will be able to shift our collective focus away from him onto anything else. I got up this morning, I was walking on the steps, and I just felt all this available brain space.

[Michael Duncan]

Wait, was he away from. He's talking about Trump.

[Josh Holmes]

He's talking about Trump. But this is the most jarring part of that clip is that you've got the CBS bug in the lower third there where he's doing it on company time. I mean, it's literally just straight partisanship. Right? I mean, his. He's actively just cheering. Is. There's a Cheers to Joe Biden. There's. Thank God we're done with Trump. Like, this is a late night comedian. I don't think he got nearly enough scorn. And he got a fair amount of shit over the last year, but, like, not nearly enough for how he almost just completely ruined an entire medium.

[Michael Duncan]

Yeah. Indistinguishable from a press secretary working for the dnc.

[Josh Holmes]

Totally.

[Michael Duncan]

I mean, his. For. For years and years and years. There was a time when he was funny. I. I do remember Daily Show. I do remember when he was on the Daily show, he had a good bit that was actually pretty funny.

[Josh Holmes]

It was.

[Michael Duncan]

But somehow over time, it's like he. The bit just kept. It just didn't wear well.

[Josh Holmes]

We just became a left wing lunatic.

[Michael Duncan]

Well, it's like, did. Was it Trump? Did Trump just like drive him mad?

[Josh Holmes]

It could be. Be.

[John Ashbrook]

Yeah, I think it's that. And then I think you also, you need to become bigger than the bit and you think it's really about you and not the jokes.

[Michael Duncan]

Okay.

[John Ashbrook]

You know, I think it's ego at the end of the day.

[Josh Holmes]

Yeah, I think you're probably right. One more clip six. The vaccine.

[John Ashbrook]

Oh, my gosh. I remember this.

[Michael Duncan]

Insufferable.

[Josh Holmes]

Vaccine.

[Michael Duncan]

But to your point, bigger. He thinks he's bigger than the bit. Like this is about him. And maybe he was a little bit jealous that more people were laughing at Trump's jokes than were laughing at his.

[John Ashbrook]

We are going to look back on the Trump era someday with all of these cultural artifacts of how the left lost its mind and so many of them happened on social media. Things like that that, you know, I think about, like Russia Gate and Tick Tock, Mueller time and, you know, they were making prayer candles of Anthony Fauci and all this sort of stuff. But I really thank God that much of the cringiest, worst stuff is on video from that show.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, totally.

[John Ashbrook]

Because we'll have it forever.

[Josh Holmes]

We do. It's cataloged.

[John Ashbrook]

It's like the world's worst time capsule.

[Josh Holmes]

I'd be humiliated. But I. Something tells me they're not going to be.

[John Ashbrook]

No, they are.

[Josh Holmes]

If that guy guy didn't voluntarily walk out of that job after nobody watched it, I don't think there's anything that's going to humiliate him enough to apologize for what he is.

[John Ashbrook]

Feel, feels. Feels like a real slow walk, by the way. It's such like an elaborate long goodbye. It feels like the world's saddest super sweet 16.

[Josh Holmes]

Oh, totally. You know. Yep, yep. It's sad.

[John Ashbrook]

Sad.

[Josh Holmes]

It's an end. So we bid you ado col. Good work, fellas. I think we did it.

[Guest/Producer]

I think so. Absolute banger of an episode. Gentlemen, thank you to listen. Remember, if you have not yet, go to the YouTube and hit that subscribe because it's more fun in video. So until next time, minions, keep the faith, hold the line and own the libs. We'll see you on Thursday. Stay ruthless,

[Michael Duncan]

Sam.